September 4, 2025 • 40 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Pablo Torre reveals a potential scandal with Kawhi Leonard and Steve Ballmer, but he may be missing the other side of the story. The guys make their AFC Predictions for the season. And Robert Kraft plans a Belichick statue at Foxboro.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Let's give this.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
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It is a special Thursday morning here on this show
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and all around the world of sports because the NFL
is back officially later on tonight. How about that this
song before? Yeah, they said they're gonna have it anymorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh they're not in yet. No?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well yeah, hey, wonder what sounded like? I have zero education,
but that's you know what?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Damn?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What do you mean? So?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I think my intro sound is stupid, but whatever, they
sound like a.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Freaking meat head, not a meat heead?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Why do I feel like Joras didn't get his song?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And again no, I did send it over and uh
and recent Ricky was not in, so yeah, I'll make
sure to have it him by Friday.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You want to know the problem, you should hit Veto
like I don't know the other fella in no disrespect.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
But.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Every time Ricky gets it done every time.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, that's why I take every long. That's why I
take long.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I switched mine up more than anyone, and Ricky's always
who I gets.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, well, yours is always the worst. You're going to
switch yours up? I'd be you know, Let's take a poll.
Let's take a poll on Twitter. Who has the worst song?
Traditionally on the show, I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Think it would you.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I wouldn't even bother putting my name on the pole.
Nobody's going to vote for that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, one of you guys put something else on the poles.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Damn wow.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
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I'm hearing reports that Brady Quinn might have gone a
real deep, real deep to research and come up with
(03:28):
his picks for this upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Right.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I mean, I'll tell you guys right off the top,
there's only one way I know how to do it. Okay,
I do it hard, I do it fast, I get
it one shot, one shot, Wow, and I can't and
whatever the results are, I have to live with them. Wow,
Because like I kind of came back after this one,
I was like, oh man, is that really how I
feel like it's going to play out? But it does
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provide you some instant insight into these schedules and what's
going to happen for some of these teams, Like you
kind of come away going all right, that team's got
a lot harder schedule than I thought they were going
to have, Like I kind of I know, the roster
is good, and then you start kind of going through
You're like.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
All right, man, they don't really have a buy till then,
and you know they got like a string of road
games or whatever. It is.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Like it's it's a good activity, man. I would tell
anyone to do it. I tell people all the time.
It's called playoff Predictors dot com. You can go do it.
It's fun to do. But yeah, I did it for
every single game, not like LeVar, who couldn't even name
you last year who won the FC South in or
second for that matter.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Apparently, any sight on our our intro sound because that
sounds like I don't know anything and I'm saying I
don't know anything, and I'm looking at what you did
last year. Honestly, black care less. I pick them right,
I pick them straight. You know, that's hard to pick
the FC South at them, but I guess I a
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FC South didn't even count whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, if it's up to you, you just dissolved the
entire division. Like nobody comes.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I mean, it wouldn't be a horrible idea.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Or the NFC South, I mean, either one, it wouldn't
be a horrible idea. There's one team that that represents
it at one point time, you know, could be Houston
at one at a point in time, could be Tampa
at a point time in the n FC like, but
the rest of them, it's like, all.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Right, you know, it's been a while, it's been a while.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
The Saints come on, So we're gonna hammer out the Titans.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Uh throughout the course of.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Are they even in that they don't even though the
Titans Jacksonville?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So we are out. We're going to hammer out those
picks throughout the course of the show. We're gonna on
some of the first hour, the second hour, the third hour.
Can we just discuss for a short time what the
f is going on with Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers.
Because this is another quote unquote bombshell that was dropped
by Pablo Torre, who has got a knack for this thing.
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He was the one who came up with the collusion evidence.
He's the one who scouted out where Bill Belichick was
doing the Walk of Shame in Nantucket. Like he does
this investigative stuff and breaks down, you know, stories that
pop up in the world of sports. And apparently Kawhi
Leonard took a twenty eight million dollar payment for a
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no show job to circumvent the NBA salary cap from
the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
There was a.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Company was that went bankrupt afterwards, and so the thought is, well,
to try and get him a little bit more cash.
We'll just you know, this is the way we'll do it.
This is the way we'll come up with the monies
to get that done. And so Pablo Torre, after the
report dropped yesterday morning, was on the Dan Patrick Show,
which you can hear on many of these Fox Sports
radio affiliates, and he broke it down.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
You may recall how in twenty nineteen, the NBA investigated
the signing of Kawhi Leonard by the Clippers. This was
the Uncle Dennis story, him asking for all the sweeteners,
the side deals. This was the Lakers, the Raptors, very mad,
lots of teams, very mad. NBA investigates says this is
a cardinal sin. Salary caps are convention, but they find nothing.
(07:20):
This is a story that started because of a company
called Aspiration, which no one really remembers in fairness, but
they had signed some of the most famous people in
the world to be endorsers. All people who endorsed this
climate change company that planted trees to zero out your
carbon footprint, like good guys, only for those same good
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guys to have since been embroiled in what has been
a concurrent Department of Justice and SEC investigations that have
resulted in guilty please by one of the co founders
of the company, and Steve Baumber in this story put
in fifty million dollars of his own money into Aspiration.
Here's the punchline. The endorser deal that was the biggest
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the Aspiration signed given all those A List avengers, happened
to be Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars, more than
four times the rest of the celebrity roster combined. And
the kicker, you might argue, is that he didn't do anything.
It was a no show job, did nothing, was an
obligated to do anything, which you can explain if you want,
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but the point being it was a secret deal that
no one knew about until now.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So there you go, and there's the uh.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Well, I think you have to in order to make
this fair. And this is part of the.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Tough, tough thing I have with like Paula tole Toy
has done a great job with a lot of his investigations,
but he's only providing you, like one side of the story,
and in particular in this one where he does find
some things and he's able to provide this very tantalizing
story that you know, I kind of look at it
and sit there and see David Sampson, by the way,
who ran the Marlins, really smart, you know, business mind
(08:58):
who's kind of sitting there looking at as a part
of it, and I think you can draw a conclusion like, yeah,
could this have been fraudulent? Could this have been a
way to circumvent the salary cap?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Well, let me read you Mark Cuban's response. I'm on
team Balmer, Well, you might think he's going to be right.
He had owned the Dallas Mavericks and majority share and
until he sold it.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
As much as I wish, they circumvented the salary cap, Steve,
isn't that dumb? All right?
Speaker 6 (09:25):
If he did try to feed Kale money knowing what
was at stake for him personally and his team, do
you think he would let that company go bankrupt knowing
all creditors would be visible to the world. So let's
just stop there for a second. He put fifty million
into this, right, it's a lot of money. I don't
care how much money you have, fifty million into it's
a lot of money. Kawhi was only getting paid seventy
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year from that, so twenty eight million, So the other
twenty two million, he's just throw it, just throwing away apparently.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Now this was all in an effort.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
If you go back and look at what aspiration was
to be able to, you know, set their carbon footprint,
and it would kind of make you feel better about,
you know, some of your business operations, et cetera. But
the point is is that it kind of starts to
look a little bit fishy then of like, all right, yeah,
maybe he wanted to pay him seven million additionally a
year and get him that extra twenty eight million, but
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then he just blowed the other twenty two purely just
to be able to get Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Maybe, I don't know, maybe not.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
It feels like you'd want to pay him the entire
fifty million or find some way of structuring that way.
Cuba goes on to say they got scammed by Aspiration,
along with many others crimes from which they pleaded guilty
last week, which is true, like a lot of these
people pleaded guilty to and if that's the case, like
they're all taking the fall, then just so Steve Baumer
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and the Clippers could be able to sign Kawhi Leonard,
like everyone's set up to take the fall for him.
I mean, they did a three hundred million dollar sponship
deal with the Clippers in twenty twenty one. That's a
huge deal. The better the team does, the more value
sponsorship has. Actually makes perfect sense. Cuban says that if
they stole money from investors and want the Clippers to succeed,
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why not give the stolen money to help keep their
best player. Also makes a lot of sense, so That's
the hard part about this is Pabloatore does this report,
it's tantalizing, everyone runs with it, and yet the populatory
ever reached out to Steve Balmer get his side of it.
Isn't that part of what journalism is. You hear both
sides of the story. You present the facts, and let
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people who read it then determine what's true and what's not.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean, at least they got the NBA.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
In the news mean brutal for me.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
God, I'm glad y'all love this topic. I mean, god, dang,
I mean, it's interesting listening to you talk about it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
But well, the reason.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
But the reason is there's there's so many ramifications for
this because like in the NBA, for example, the president
was set back when the Minnesota Timberwolves this in two
thousand and with Joe Schmidt Joe Smith, and they took
away five first round picks, which, by the way, the
Clippers won't even have how many first round picks? Not
sure what they do. They find the team three point
five million dollars and they avoided the contract, So that
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is tampering.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
It's like tampering or fraud. What would what would we
call it, well fraud, you.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Call it fraudule have you won. It's just it goes
against the CBA.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Right because you've got a union, you've got a collective
bargain agreement that's been agreed upon, and really for more
the ownership side, you know, they want things to be
fair and on the up up and have a level
playing field. And they have a soft cap for a
reason because if you go over it, right, you end
up paying a luxury tax. So there's all sorts of
you know, reasons why this matters. But what makes it
really interesting is then you apply it to like college football.
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Right now, college football is slowly moving towards a world
where you have a salary cap in essence, right, we
have the house NCAA settlement that allows now every school
to pay out their student athletes, in particular football x
amount of dollars of the twenty two million or twenty
million roughly somewhere in that ballpark.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Right.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
So the interesting thing about it is that the NCAA
and really all parties involved that that have created the
College Sports Commission, the CSC, they are supposed to because
now collectives are still able to exist, players are still
able to go and get their anile deals. They were
able to actually go and look at all those deals
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to try to provide some sort of transparency and make
sure everything's on the up and up, and they can
determine whether or not those deals are deemed worthy, like
if the athletes are being paid market value, if they
fall up in the guidelines of what's been put forth
in the House NCAA settlement, what becomes really interesting is
who's to say the CSC knows like.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
What's market value or even argue that.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
And typically when you have a union with one side,
you know you could take those things up or their
negotiated within a collective bargain agreement.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
The problem is that we don't have any of that
college football.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
So if you were to apply this situation, should someone
ever say, hey, Penn Station have got that recruit, they
probably gave.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Him, you know, a two million dollar, you know nil deal.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Like if they end up saying that the player can't
do the deal, the College Sports Commission, he's just gonna
come right back out and sue and say, yeah, you guys,
let's go to court.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Let's figure this out, and he's probably gonna win.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
So that's that's what makes this really interesting, is you're
saying something right now that it's not just interesting from
the NBA and the fact that they're even in the
news and how this's all worked out, it's also interesting
and how it impacts other sports and where other sports
are at and their evolution of becoming a professional sport
like college football that's inching their way there.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So it's about figuring out managing engaging loopholes loopholers.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Is that what I take from it.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Which is kind of what always the business has been.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
There's always been, right, But that's what this is, is somebody
finding a loophole to you pay more to be more
enticing to the player.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Is sure?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I mean the problem in this case, well, the Clippers
did this in order to be able to pay Kawi
more than what some of the other suitors would be
able to pay him. What's interesting about it, like I said, though,
is like I don't know how you stop or how
you look at this if you're Steve Bomber and.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Say, yeah, like he became a part of the Clippers,
Bomber owns the Clippers.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
But at the same time Bomber just essentially wasted twenty
two million dollars even if that was what he was
trying to do in helping out Kawhi Leonard. And also
to Mark Cuban's first point, like, no one, no one's
dumb enough who's in that world at that level to
do something that becomes public And he had to have
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known that if he was going to invest his money
with an organization and company who'd be basically were a
bunch of scammers who pled guilty.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
To all this.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
That you know it was going to be eventually become
public and all that. Like, I'm sure that wasn't the intent.
Maybe Pablo Toya would say in response to this, maybe
he'd say, well, yeah, that wasn't Bomber's intent. He didn't
think they'd go bankrupt, so he thought no one would
ever know. But it looks a little fishy right on
both sides of it. And that's why you wish Pablo
toy would have had more from bombers side of things.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And also, you know he's gonna spend twenty two million
dollars for this, and on top of that, if he
gets popped, it's seven and a half million dollars in fines.
It's a loss of draft picks. I think they void
Kauwhai's contract, like it's going to cripple the organization for
all this to do business with somebody on a shady level.
(16:39):
It just so, Yeah, I think Mark Cuban makes a
lot of sense. They're supposed to have some sort of
you know, an interview or something. I think they agreed
to to go over a pablotory and Mark Cuban. But yeah, nonetheless,
and also how many how many other owners around sports
you know, are looking at this going, well, hopefully they're
want to start taking let's.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
All peel back the curtain if you guys really want
to go there. I mean, we can talk about Tom Brady.
We could talk about all the.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Accusations that people used to make during the years where
he would take quote unquote team friendly deals. And there
was always a thought that Robert Craft and Tom Brady
had gotten in more real estate.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Deals, more involved that were under the table, deals.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
That had gone on for you know, two decades, where
there was a common thought that that's how they were
getting it done. Deals that weren't just in this country deals,
international deals. There are deals in Brazil, like there's all
sorts of different things that you know, I mean, Let's
just put it this way. Because let's say you have
equity in a company and maybe they maybe just to
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be Tom Brady, right, someone's going to give you equity
to use your name like this. Maybe it's it's a
company that does real estate in Brazil, hypothetically speaking, And
if you've got a partial portion of this company, you
haven't put any money in, right, So you're kind of
playing with house money, right, because you haven't done anything
so far. And let's just say that you in order
to you know, sign a contract that's not the market rate,
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or or you're allowing the team to sign you at
a discount. Let's say you're like, yeah, okay, that's fine,
but in exchange, I want you to invest into this
real estate deal. And so if you're getting a percentage
of the equity from that deal, maybe you're even getting
a networking fee and they're getting some you know, a
one percent of whatever you're able to raise as the sponsor,
you know you're getting something back in return that's real
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money in a deal like that. So it granted all
hypotheticals that I'm presenting you, but ways you could go
about doing it where there's not as much of a
money trail directly to the athlete, but through another company
where he would be getting paid out. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, it makes a ton of sense. It's just a lot,
just a lot.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
But yeah, it's the lengths that teams go to in
order to find ways of operating in the gray.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
How bad do you want it? All right?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Got?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I mean everybody wants it pretty badly. I'm assuming some
people want it more more than others.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Maybe not Alabama, you know later a lot more back
in the day.
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here we go, the moment of truth. Are you guys
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Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I don't think you're ready for the smoke. I'm about
to break the.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
One who picked every single game. So yeah, I didn't
need to do crap.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I don't need too.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I was so busy I started listening to rock and
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Speaker 4 (21:36):
At the park.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Hey, by the way, that uh that site that you use,
they that was modeled off my predictions and picks. Just
so you know, like they did that years ago. They
heard kno Knox locks. They were like you know what,
I got to be a part of that. How come
you're the Dallas this year?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Is that how that works?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Listen? So sometimes I make a bad pick, but at
least I own it and if the go sideways, that's
not on me, that's on the people that didn't perform.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
So were the Chargers winning the AFC West?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, listen, we don't need to get I got him
winning the AFC West.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Johnah SAIDAM winning last year?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So I got him this year?
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Lee?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
How do we want to do this? You are the
quarterback of our picks? So how how should we?
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I think spend that?
Speaker 11 (22:23):
I think we got to just let uh let the
dog off the leash and let Brady give his game
by game of the AFC.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Let's go. We're going yea NFC division by division.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
I could do this quick, all right? Do we have
any intro music? We just you know braw Dog in
this jumping right?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, raw talking?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
All right.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Let me start off at the AFC West with my
number one over old seed.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
It's the whole to thee.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
At fourteen and three out of the Kansasity Chiefs, not
only winning the AFC West, but the number one over,
I'll see going five and one in the division, and
I've got the Chargers going ten and seven. They do
make it in as the sixth seed, though a wildcard
seed nonetheless five hundred division, but the Chargers of the
other team that makes in that division at ten and seven,
Broncos at seven and ten, Raiders at six at eleven.
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Both Broncos and Raiders had tougher schedules than I could recall,
because I do think the Broncos could be a little
bit better.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Than that this year.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
However, That's what I've got for the AFC West, for
the AFC North, a team that really pushed Kansas City
for the number one overall spot. Or the Cincinnati Bengals
thirteen and four. Yes, for all the d bags out
there that think I don't like the Bengals or I
don't think this, or that, you know, they're a really
good football team. I think they could win a Super Bowl.
So hang on to the rest of the predictions. I've
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got them winning the AFC North at thirteen and four,
beating out Baltimore at twelve and five. Mind you, Pittsburgh Steelers,
they go nine and seven. They do not make the playoffs,
which I don't feel good about that prediction.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
However, that's how it worked out. We do it once.
You don't get to go back and make changes.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Brown's at five and twelve, which I think hits. They're
over in some books, but still not quite good enough.
Moving on to the AFC East, Bills leading the way
at twelve and five. They have a much more difficult
schedule than I'd realize. This number doesn't look good to me.
I think they should be closer to fourteen and three,
but I got I'm at twelve and five. They still
win the AFC East, and the Patriots at ten and
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seven they get the final wild card spots. Meanwhile, Dolphins
at seven and ten, Jets at six and eleven, and
finally the AFC South. Only one team makes it from
the playoffs from the AFC South, and it's the Jaguars
via a tiebreaker Liam Cohnan his first year, they win.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
A tiebreaker over the Texans.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
The Texans go ten and seven, the Jaguars go ten
and seven. However, it's the Jaguars that move on the
Titans of five and twelve and the Colts at four
and thirteen.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That is my AFC picture.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Who's next?
Speaker 11 (25:00):
All right, Jonas, give us your AFC picks.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
All right, let's fire it off, all right. In the
AFC East, I've got the Buffalo Bills winning the division.
Stick around if you think they're gonna make a run
to the Super Bowl like Pete Prisco things, because listen,
Matt hard knock curse is a real thing. They were featured.
It might be a problem. I've got the Patriots finishing
second in that division, followed by the Dolphins and the
Jets bringing up the rear. That is your AFC East.
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Over in the North, this one I struggled with. I
struggled with both Norths. In the AFC North, I've got
the Bengals winning the division. I've got the Baltimore Ravens
finishing second, and then I've got Pittsburgh finishing third, followed
by the Cleveland Browns, who I think is not a
stunner based on how that whole offseason has gone for them.
Over in the AFC South, Lebar's favorite division, I've got
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the Houston Texans finishing one, follow by the Jaguars, the Colts,
and the Titans. In the AFC West, the Bolts back
the Chargers will be winning that division yet again. I'll
spin the chamber one more time see if I can
get it right this year. But I've got the Chargers
winning the AFC West, followed by the Kansas City Chiefs,
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the Broncos, and the Raiders. That'll be your AFC picks
over there. What's wrong with my.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Picksmar Well, because a lot of them match mine and
I don't like agreeing with you.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You guys must hit in bed together, I mean on
these picks. Damn you know dogs here too.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
Yeah, bring it home.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
By the way, I don't know how the hell I
said Pittsburgh. What I say nine ten and seven, I
don't know. I was reading a different teams schedule, So
I'm sorry about that Textedly, I'm not sure he's gonna
get it.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
But that's why I'm not even going to get into
doing what you did. I'm gonna go with what Jonas did.
I'm not giving any any records or anything like that.
I'm just going to give who I felt is going
to do it finish where they're going to finish.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I'll start with the North.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I do have Cincinnati a top of the AFC North.
I do believe they will start quicker this year. And
they'll be a much better team for longer. This year
just depends on the health of Joe Burrow. In my estimation,
I got them one, Baltimore two, Pittsburgh rounding it out
at three. And yes, the Cleveland Brown's kicking the can
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at four down the street. I wonder what that means
for Stefanski and company. In the East of the AFC. Yes,
New England. I have New England at the bottom, all
the way at the bottom, even though I love the
Mad Mike Rabela, think they're going to be way down there.
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And well, I think that the New York Jets won't
be far off from them, but they will be able
to see the New England Patriots easier than the well
the number one team, which I'll get to in one second,
but I guess you'll know because the runner up are
the Fins. Yeah, the Miami Dolphins. I got the mat
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number two, and that means that Buffalo is going to
win the AFC East, and I think it will be
by a long shot. So moving to the South, Yes,
I feel like this is the DQ not the BQ prediction,
But this is the disqualified predictions part of the conference
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or part of the Division. I got the Texans winning it.
I think they'll have It's interesting. They had a good
year last year, just didn't feel like they had a
good year. I don't know why, but they did, finishing
double digits of wins and they did make it to
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I think they'll be better this year. So I got
the Texans winning it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I don't know why I put the Jags at too,
because I feel like Tennessee or Indiana could possibly knock
them off. I guess we could say they have more
of what you would call stability at the quarterbacks position,
so I'll put the Mats second.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I got Tennessee. Like I said, they could go either way.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Between Tennessee and Indiana or the j if I'm being
honest in my estimation. But I got Tennessee at three
and I got Indy at four. I think the indecision
at quarterback, well maybe not in decision, but I don't
know the quarterback situation, and Indy I just I don't
trust it, so I feel like that might be a
reason why they struggle. So I got them coming in
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at fourth. The West. I think KSE is due for
a down moment, not a down year, So for a
down moment, I'll have them finishing behind the Chargers, which
I think they're going to be on the rise. I
just think hardball led teams after they get a little
bit of time in his scheme and in what he's
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got going on, he just doesn't miss. And I think
that he's got what he needs. I think he's got
the confidence of Herbert, and he's got a he's got
this a nice supporting cast. They're going to run the
ball down people, just shove it down people's throats, just
force it down their throats, choking them out almost so
to speak, unless they don't have a gag reflex. But
I digress. I think that the Chargers will be number
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one and Case will be number two. I think Denver
will be competitive, I really do. I think this will
be a very very competitive year for the West. Outside
of the lonely number four Las Vegas Raiders, they won't
be competitive, but I think the other three teams will be.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Eh.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
There you go. That's my AFC picks.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Which was the which division was the most difficult to
pick in the AFC? For you guys like I would
you say you struggled with.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
If I'm being honest, I would say the AFC East,
AFC South, because you know, it's hard to pick a
lot of losses for teams because you're like, man, I
just picked.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
The loss the last four games for that team, you know.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
But you know, there's a lot of things I look
at the buys, you know, home game advantage, so a
little you know stats for you. Between the nineteen seventies,
roughly nineteen seventeen twenty ten, home teams had a up
to sixty percent advantage, like sixty percent of the time
the home team's won. Since twenty nineteen, it's been closed
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to like fifty two to fifty three percent. So when
I do these, obviously I try to factor some of
that in. If I'm like a little bit not sure
what I'm thinking about this matchup or whatever the case,
maybe I'll just kind of lean on more of a
home team in homefield advantage. But that's jodled over the
last six years, which is kind of interesting when you
look at it.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I say to North, Jonas, and I say the North
because I'm with it. I do not have an idea
of what Pittsburgh can be. Pittsburgh could actually sneak up
on people and be the one that ends up on
top of.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Even though you've been against Rogers like the entire.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. I don't I'm not.
I'm not blind to the fact that they could possibly
be a competitive team more so than what I think.
I just think there's too many questions marks to make
that type of commitment.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
So here's why it was somewhat easy for me, is
I feel like Sincinnian and Baltimore anny playoff teams, So
I know one of those two is going to win
it the way the schedule worked out, having to be
sincey the way I did it, and then I think
Cleveland would be somewhere in the bottom. So yeah, I
didn't know where Pittsburgh would end up. But at ten
and seven, I look at that and just say, okay,
Like that's that comes down to, like their schedule, who
they beat, who they didn't, which is interesting because like
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ten and seven is a good record, and if it
does work out that way where they go ten and seven,
they don't make it. I'm not sure you make of things.
I'm not sure if Rogers comes back for another year,
maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Kind of find that all interesting, So I don't know
who's going to be one, two or three. That I
gave my prediction of what I think it will be.
I just don't know who will be one, two and three.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It could be. Also, it's such a musical chairs if
you have no idea.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I also struggled. I'm not crazy about taking the Chargers
with the Slater injury. They've got a running back who
you know, almost blew his face off at a fireworks
show and fourth of July like, I'm not that seems.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Can I give you a little bit of color there?
Can I give you something some optim And.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I'm a big believer in the Super Bowl hangover. I
know that the Chiefs it doesn't apply to them or
the Patriots of the past number of number of years.
But I just wonder if you know age some other factors.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
So when had Harball is always at his best when
there's some drama going on, think about that's right.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
He wasn't even there in happy value last year and they.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Still always at his best when the drama he uses
that he uses that drama as like super fuel.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Plus, I mean, justin coming from LaVar would know like
Penn state has not being Michigan in a while, so
it's been.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
A long time.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Plus he got justin Herbert, you know, walking around playing
board games, drinking wine with that rocket ship Madison Beer.
I don't know if that's still going on, but just
feels like.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
It's you can't keep saying her name. It's only gonna
trigger lead immediately gon a liquor store, Like the whole name?
Why do you say the whole name like that?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
What am I supped?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Saying? Just the way they.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Said it was a little bit ta bit creepy though,
Like I don't know beer, No, not the way you
just said it. When you said it, when it was
justin Herbert's Matt Madison Beer or whatever her name is,
you said it a little differently.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
That's her name. I don't know what to tell you.
I thought Petros had a fair breakdown of her.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You know, what was it?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
She had a time where she was shopped in another aisle?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
What was it she was? That's correct, there were there's
my pictures.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
My ale.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I don't really know where I am.
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Speaker 8 (35:11):
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Speaker 8 (36:02):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer, Lee.
Speaker 10 (36:15):
Lap Good more than everybody, good, more than Jonas. Good
morning Brady, Good morning LeVar. Guys, I am pumped. How
about this? In case you missed it. Robert Kraft was
on WBZTV yesterday and asked about you know we saw
earlier this year the unveiling of the Tom Brady statue.
Speaker 11 (36:33):
Could we be seen a Bill Belichick statue anytime soon?
This is what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
When that great twenty year era ended. It was always
my intention to commission a statue for both Tommy and
Bill when their respective careers were over playing and coaching,
and when Bill's coaching career ends, we look forward to
sitting down with him and having as that you may
(37:02):
be right next to Tommy.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Was that Larry Merchant? Tommy, he's got a got a
Larry Merchant cadence going on.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
We want to sit down with him next to them
and make sure that we commission that. You think a
statue next to Tommy.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I don't think Belichick is interested in, you know, getting
a statue or man, we're getting a celebration from Robert.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Last time he was ever successful whoa.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
The way, the way that relationship sort of dwindled towards
the end, and since then the comments since then, I
don't think. I don't think that'll be happening anytime.
Speaker 10 (37:45):
Could he could Robert Craft put up a statue of Bill,
Belichick said, I don't want there to be a statue.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I mean, yeah, I think when they use your uh,
your name in your face everything, yeah, I think it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
He could say no.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Say no to him might make it awkward if he's
not there during the unveiling.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Of it, though, why would he not be there?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Jonas because they don't get along and don't like each other.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, but that's still his legacy, Jonas, Like, you cannot
like somebody, but they had great success together that that's
not disqualified Jonas.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Okay, well, then I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll
call every ax I ever knew that I didn't get
along with afterwards, and we'll celebrate our anniversary again.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I mean, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
That makes sense?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
There was no success in that relationship. That's why they're
your ex.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Oh boy, you guys are great.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That's ridiculous. Jonas is a horrible Uh. It was a
good point by Jonas, though. I would like to see
that play itself out. I would like to see it,
but not for comparison's sake. I just would like to
see it. First of all, I'd like to see what
they look like, you know. Second of all, of course,
you were the reason why it didn't work out. Damn
did I just want to hear about.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
It, dah Lee, what else we got? I'm not going
to be attacking.
Speaker 10 (39:03):
Yeah, well, guys, In case you missed this, more changes
to the W to the w NBA, the NBA All
Star Game, the format for the Yeah right, the format
for the twenty twenty six NBA All Star Game is
likely to be a round robin tournament consisting of three
eight player teams of two USA teams and one World team.
Speaker 11 (39:22):
NBA and the NBA and players.
Speaker 10 (39:24):
You presented the format to the league Competition Committee and
the response was positive.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Though, God, what a circus. Yeah, just you just get
rid of it. Just stop, Like, why why is it?
Why is this? Why are they still still trying to
revive a corpse? It's over, you ruin the All Star Game?
It's done. Stop trying to give CPR to a dead body.
(39:52):
It's a rap. How many different concoctions are they going
to come up with before you just realize it? Man,
if these guys aren't interested and don't want to participate
unless they're hungover and laughing at you know, Fergie singing
the national anthem, then this is just not going to
be what it was but we were growing up. Just isn't.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
All right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I don't know. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
I don't know how to save any of these All
Star Games. It's not just an NBA problem. It's at
every I mean, baseball is doing one. This seems to
do it right, but I don't know. Man, it's tough.
Can't make the players play and make it competitive.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
It's hard Lee.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
What else we got, well, guys, in case you missed this.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Uh oh, we all missed it. No,
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Let's give this.
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and all around the world of sports because the NFL
is back officially later on tonight. How about that this
song before? Yeah, they said they're gonna have it anymorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh they're not in yet. No?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well yeah, hey, wonder what sounded like? I have zero education,
but that's you know what?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Damn?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What do you mean? So?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I think my intro sound is stupid, but whatever, they
sound like a.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Freaking meat head, not a meat heead?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Why do I feel like Joras didn't get his song?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And again no, I did send it over and uh
and recent Ricky was not in, so yeah, I'll make
sure to have it him by Friday.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You want to know the problem, you should hit Veto
like I don't know the other fella in no disrespect.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
But.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Every time Ricky gets it done every time.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, that's why I take every long. That's why I
take long.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I switched mine up more than anyone, and Ricky's always
who I gets.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, well, yours is always the worst. You're going to
switch yours up? I'd be you know, Let's take a poll.
Let's take a poll on Twitter. Who has the worst song?
Traditionally on the show, I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Think it would you.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I wouldn't even bother putting my name on the pole.
Nobody's going to vote for that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, one of you guys put something else on the poles.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Damn wow.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
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(03:28):
his picks for this upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Right.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I mean, I'll tell you guys right off the top,
there's only one way I know how to do it. Okay,
I do it hard, I do it fast, I get
it one shot, one shot, Wow, and I can't and
whatever the results are, I have to live with them. Wow,
Because like I kind of came back after this one,
I was like, oh man, is that really how I
feel like it's going to play out? But it does
(03:51):
provide you some instant insight into these schedules and what's
going to happen for some of these teams, Like you
kind of come away going all right, that team's got
a lot harder schedule than I thought they were going
to have, Like I kind of I know, the roster
is good, and then you start kind of going through
You're like.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
All right, man, they don't really have a buy till then,
and you know they got like a string of road
games or whatever. It is.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Like it's it's a good activity, man. I would tell
anyone to do it. I tell people all the time.
It's called playoff Predictors dot com. You can go do it.
It's fun to do. But yeah, I did it for
every single game, not like LeVar, who couldn't even name
you last year who won the FC South in or
second for that matter.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Apparently, any sight on our our intro sound because that
sounds like I don't know anything and I'm saying I
don't know anything, and I'm looking at what you did
last year. Honestly, black care less. I pick them right,
I pick them straight. You know, that's hard to pick
the FC South at them, but I guess I a
(04:58):
FC South didn't even count whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, if it's up to you, you just dissolved the
entire division. Like nobody comes.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I mean, it wouldn't be a horrible idea.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Or the NFC South, I mean, either one, it wouldn't
be a horrible idea. There's one team that that represents
it at one point time, you know, could be Houston
at one at a point in time, could be Tampa
at a point time in the n FC like, but
the rest of them, it's like, all.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Right, you know, it's been a while, it's been a while.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
The Saints come on, So we're gonna hammer out the Titans.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Uh throughout the course of.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Are they even in that they don't even though the
Titans Jacksonville?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So we are out. We're going to hammer out those
picks throughout the course of the show. We're gonna on
some of the first hour, the second hour, the third hour.
Can we just discuss for a short time what the
f is going on with Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers.
Because this is another quote unquote bombshell that was dropped
by Pablo Torre, who has got a knack for this thing.
(06:12):
He was the one who came up with the collusion evidence.
He's the one who scouted out where Bill Belichick was
doing the Walk of Shame in Nantucket. Like he does
this investigative stuff and breaks down, you know, stories that
pop up in the world of sports. And apparently Kawhi
Leonard took a twenty eight million dollar payment for a
(06:33):
no show job to circumvent the NBA salary cap from
the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
There was a.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Company was that went bankrupt afterwards, and so the thought is, well,
to try and get him a little bit more cash.
We'll just you know, this is the way we'll do it.
This is the way we'll come up with the monies
to get that done. And so Pablo Torre, after the
report dropped yesterday morning, was on the Dan Patrick Show,
which you can hear on many of these Fox Sports
radio affiliates, and he broke it down.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
You may recall how in twenty nineteen, the NBA investigated
the signing of Kawhi Leonard by the Clippers. This was
the Uncle Dennis story, him asking for all the sweeteners,
the side deals. This was the Lakers, the Raptors, very mad,
lots of teams, very mad. NBA investigates says this is
a cardinal sin. Salary caps are convention, but they find nothing.
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This is a story that started because of a company
called Aspiration, which no one really remembers in fairness, but
they had signed some of the most famous people in
the world to be endorsers. All people who endorsed this
climate change company that planted trees to zero out your
carbon footprint, like good guys, only for those same good
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guys to have since been embroiled in what has been
a concurrent Department of Justice and SEC investigations that have
resulted in guilty please by one of the co founders
of the company, and Steve Baumber in this story put
in fifty million dollars of his own money into Aspiration.
Here's the punchline. The endorser deal that was the biggest
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the Aspiration signed given all those A List avengers, happened
to be Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars, more than
four times the rest of the celebrity roster combined. And
the kicker, you might argue, is that he didn't do anything.
It was a no show job, did nothing, was an
obligated to do anything, which you can explain if you want,
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but the point being it was a secret deal that
no one knew about until now.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So there you go, and there's the uh.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Well, I think you have to in order to make
this fair. And this is part of the.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Tough, tough thing I have with like Paula tole Toy
has done a great job with a lot of his investigations,
but he's only providing you, like one side of the story,
and in particular in this one where he does find
some things and he's able to provide this very tantalizing
story that you know, I kind of look at it
and sit there and see David Sampson, by the way,
who ran the Marlins, really smart, you know, business mind
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who's kind of sitting there looking at as a part
of it, and I think you can draw a conclusion like, yeah,
could this have been fraudulent? Could this have been a
way to circumvent the salary cap?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Well, let me read you Mark Cuban's response. I'm on
team Balmer, Well, you might think he's going to be right.
He had owned the Dallas Mavericks and majority share and
until he sold it.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
As much as I wish, they circumvented the salary cap, Steve,
isn't that dumb? All right?
Speaker 6 (09:25):
If he did try to feed Kale money knowing what
was at stake for him personally and his team, do
you think he would let that company go bankrupt knowing
all creditors would be visible to the world. So let's
just stop there for a second. He put fifty million
into this, right, it's a lot of money. I don't
care how much money you have, fifty million into it's
a lot of money. Kawhi was only getting paid seventy
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year from that, so twenty eight million, So the other
twenty two million, he's just throw it, just throwing away apparently.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Now this was all in an effort.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
If you go back and look at what aspiration was
to be able to, you know, set their carbon footprint,
and it would kind of make you feel better about,
you know, some of your business operations, et cetera. But
the point is is that it kind of starts to
look a little bit fishy then of like, all right, yeah,
maybe he wanted to pay him seven million additionally a
year and get him that extra twenty eight million, but
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then he just blowed the other twenty two purely just
to be able to get Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Maybe, I don't know, maybe not.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
It feels like you'd want to pay him the entire
fifty million or find some way of structuring that way.
Cuba goes on to say they got scammed by Aspiration,
along with many others crimes from which they pleaded guilty
last week, which is true, like a lot of these
people pleaded guilty to and if that's the case, like
they're all taking the fall, then just so Steve Baumer
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and the Clippers could be able to sign Kawhi Leonard,
like everyone's set up to take the fall for him.
I mean, they did a three hundred million dollar sponship
deal with the Clippers in twenty twenty one. That's a
huge deal. The better the team does, the more value
sponsorship has. Actually makes perfect sense. Cuban says that if
they stole money from investors and want the Clippers to succeed,
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why not give the stolen money to help keep their
best player. Also makes a lot of sense, so That's
the hard part about this is Pabloatore does this report,
it's tantalizing, everyone runs with it, and yet the populatory
ever reached out to Steve Balmer get his side of it.
Isn't that part of what journalism is. You hear both
sides of the story. You present the facts, and let
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people who read it then determine what's true and what's not.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean, at least they got the NBA.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
In the news mean brutal for me.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
God, I'm glad y'all love this topic. I mean, god, dang,
I mean, it's interesting listening to you talk about it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
But well, the reason.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
But the reason is there's there's so many ramifications for
this because like in the NBA, for example, the president
was set back when the Minnesota Timberwolves this in two
thousand and with Joe Schmidt Joe Smith, and they took
away five first round picks, which, by the way, the
Clippers won't even have how many first round picks? Not
sure what they do. They find the team three point
five million dollars and they avoided the contract, So that
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is tampering.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
It's like tampering or fraud. What would what would we
call it, well fraud, you.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Call it fraudule have you won. It's just it goes
against the CBA.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Right because you've got a union, you've got a collective
bargain agreement that's been agreed upon, and really for more
the ownership side, you know, they want things to be
fair and on the up up and have a level
playing field. And they have a soft cap for a
reason because if you go over it, right, you end
up paying a luxury tax. So there's all sorts of
you know, reasons why this matters. But what makes it
really interesting is then you apply it to like college football.
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Right now, college football is slowly moving towards a world
where you have a salary cap in essence, right, we
have the house NCAA settlement that allows now every school
to pay out their student athletes, in particular football x
amount of dollars of the twenty two million or twenty
million roughly somewhere in that ballpark.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Right.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
So the interesting thing about it is that the NCAA
and really all parties involved that that have created the
College Sports Commission, the CSC, they are supposed to because
now collectives are still able to exist, players are still
able to go and get their anile deals. They were
able to actually go and look at all those deals
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to try to provide some sort of transparency and make
sure everything's on the up and up, and they can
determine whether or not those deals are deemed worthy, like
if the athletes are being paid market value, if they
fall up in the guidelines of what's been put forth
in the House NCAA settlement, what becomes really interesting is
who's to say the CSC knows like.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
What's market value or even argue that.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
And typically when you have a union with one side,
you know you could take those things up or their
negotiated within a collective bargain agreement.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
The problem is that we don't have any of that
college football.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
So if you were to apply this situation, should someone
ever say, hey, Penn Station have got that recruit, they
probably gave.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Him, you know, a two million dollar, you know nil deal.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Like if they end up saying that the player can't
do the deal, the College Sports Commission, he's just gonna
come right back out and sue and say, yeah, you guys,
let's go to court.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Let's figure this out, and he's probably gonna win.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
So that's that's what makes this really interesting, is you're
saying something right now that it's not just interesting from
the NBA and the fact that they're even in the
news and how this's all worked out, it's also interesting
and how it impacts other sports and where other sports
are at and their evolution of becoming a professional sport
like college football that's inching their way there.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So it's about figuring out managing engaging loopholes loopholers.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Is that what I take from it.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Which is kind of what always the business has been.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
There's always been, right, But that's what this is, is somebody
finding a loophole to you pay more to be more
enticing to the player.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Is sure?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I mean the problem in this case, well, the Clippers
did this in order to be able to pay Kawi
more than what some of the other suitors would be
able to pay him. What's interesting about it, like I said, though,
is like I don't know how you stop or how
you look at this if you're Steve Bomber and.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Say, yeah, like he became a part of the Clippers,
Bomber owns the Clippers.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
But at the same time Bomber just essentially wasted twenty
two million dollars even if that was what he was
trying to do in helping out Kawhi Leonard. And also
to Mark Cuban's first point, like, no one, no one's
dumb enough who's in that world at that level to
do something that becomes public And he had to have
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known that if he was going to invest his money
with an organization and company who'd be basically were a
bunch of scammers who pled guilty.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
To all this.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
That you know it was going to be eventually become
public and all that. Like, I'm sure that wasn't the intent.
Maybe Pablo Toya would say in response to this, maybe
he'd say, well, yeah, that wasn't Bomber's intent. He didn't
think they'd go bankrupt, so he thought no one would
ever know. But it looks a little fishy right on
both sides of it. And that's why you wish Pablo
toy would have had more from bombers side of things.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And also, you know he's gonna spend twenty two million
dollars for this, and on top of that, if he
gets popped, it's seven and a half million dollars in fines.
It's a loss of draft picks. I think they void
Kauwhai's contract, like it's going to cripple the organization for
all this to do business with somebody on a shady level.
(16:39):
It just so, Yeah, I think Mark Cuban makes a
lot of sense. They're supposed to have some sort of
you know, an interview or something. I think they agreed
to to go over a pablotory and Mark Cuban. But yeah, nonetheless,
and also how many how many other owners around sports
you know, are looking at this going, well, hopefully they're
want to start taking let's.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
All peel back the curtain if you guys really want
to go there. I mean, we can talk about Tom Brady.
We could talk about all the.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Accusations that people used to make during the years where
he would take quote unquote team friendly deals. And there
was always a thought that Robert Craft and Tom Brady
had gotten in more real estate.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Deals, more involved that were under the table, deals.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
That had gone on for you know, two decades, where
there was a common thought that that's how they were
getting it done. Deals that weren't just in this country deals,
international deals. There are deals in Brazil, like there's all
sorts of different things that you know, I mean, Let's
just put it this way. Because let's say you have
equity in a company and maybe they maybe just to
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be Tom Brady, right, someone's going to give you equity
to use your name like this. Maybe it's it's a
company that does real estate in Brazil, hypothetically speaking, And
if you've got a partial portion of this company, you
haven't put any money in, right, So you're kind of
playing with house money, right, because you haven't done anything
so far. And let's just say that you in order
to you know, sign a contract that's not the market rate,
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or or you're allowing the team to sign you at
a discount. Let's say you're like, yeah, okay, that's fine,
but in exchange, I want you to invest into this
real estate deal. And so if you're getting a percentage
of the equity from that deal, maybe you're even getting
a networking fee and they're getting some you know, a
one percent of whatever you're able to raise as the sponsor,
you know you're getting something back in return that's real
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money in a deal like that. So it granted all
hypotheticals that I'm presenting you, but ways you could go
about doing it where there's not as much of a
money trail directly to the athlete, but through another company
where he would be getting paid out. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, it makes a ton of sense. It's just a lot,
just a lot.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
But yeah, it's the lengths that teams go to in
order to find ways of operating in the gray.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
How bad do you want it? All right?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Got?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I mean everybody wants it pretty badly. I'm assuming some
people want it more more than others.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Maybe not Alabama, you know later a lot more back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
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upcoming year. It kicks off later on tonight and we
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here we go, the moment of truth. Are you guys
ready for this?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I don't think you're ready for the smoke. I'm about
to break the.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
One who picked every single game. So yeah, I didn't
need to do crap.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I don't need too.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I was so busy I started listening to rock and
roll and just throwing the ball with my son.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
At the park.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Hey, by the way, that uh that site that you use,
they that was modeled off my predictions and picks. Just
so you know, like they did that years ago. They
heard kno Knox locks. They were like you know what,
I got to be a part of that. How come
you're the Dallas this year?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Is that how that works?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Listen? So sometimes I make a bad pick, but at
least I own it and if the go sideways, that's
not on me, that's on the people that didn't perform.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
So were the Chargers winning the AFC West?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, listen, we don't need to get I got him
winning the AFC West.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Johnah SAIDAM winning last year?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So I got him this year?
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Lee?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
How do we want to do this? You are the
quarterback of our picks? So how how should we?
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I think spend that?
Speaker 11 (22:23):
I think we got to just let uh let the
dog off the leash and let Brady give his game
by game of the AFC.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Let's go. We're going yea NFC division by division.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
I could do this quick, all right? Do we have
any intro music? We just you know braw Dog in
this jumping right?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, raw talking?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
All right.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Let me start off at the AFC West with my
number one over old seed.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
It's the whole to thee.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
At fourteen and three out of the Kansasity Chiefs, not
only winning the AFC West, but the number one over,
I'll see going five and one in the division, and
I've got the Chargers going ten and seven. They do
make it in as the sixth seed, though a wildcard
seed nonetheless five hundred division, but the Chargers of the
other team that makes in that division at ten and seven,
Broncos at seven and ten, Raiders at six at eleven.
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Both Broncos and Raiders had tougher schedules than I could recall,
because I do think the Broncos could be a little
bit better.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Than that this year.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
However, That's what I've got for the AFC West, for
the AFC North, a team that really pushed Kansas City
for the number one overall spot. Or the Cincinnati Bengals
thirteen and four. Yes, for all the d bags out
there that think I don't like the Bengals or I
don't think this, or that, you know, they're a really
good football team. I think they could win a Super Bowl.
So hang on to the rest of the predictions. I've
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got them winning the AFC North at thirteen and four,
beating out Baltimore at twelve and five. Mind you, Pittsburgh Steelers,
they go nine and seven. They do not make the playoffs,
which I don't feel good about that prediction.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
However, that's how it worked out. We do it once.
You don't get to go back and make changes.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Brown's at five and twelve, which I think hits. They're
over in some books, but still not quite good enough.
Moving on to the AFC East, Bills leading the way
at twelve and five. They have a much more difficult
schedule than I'd realize. This number doesn't look good to me.
I think they should be closer to fourteen and three,
but I got I'm at twelve and five. They still
win the AFC East, and the Patriots at ten and
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seven they get the final wild card spots. Meanwhile, Dolphins
at seven and ten, Jets at six and eleven, and
finally the AFC South. Only one team makes it from
the playoffs from the AFC South, and it's the Jaguars
via a tiebreaker Liam Cohnan his first year, they win.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
A tiebreaker over the Texans.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
The Texans go ten and seven, the Jaguars go ten
and seven. However, it's the Jaguars that move on the
Titans of five and twelve and the Colts at four
and thirteen.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That is my AFC picture.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Who's next?
Speaker 11 (25:00):
All right, Jonas, give us your AFC picks.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
All right, let's fire it off, all right. In the
AFC East, I've got the Buffalo Bills winning the division.
Stick around if you think they're gonna make a run
to the Super Bowl like Pete Prisco things, because listen,
Matt hard knock curse is a real thing. They were featured.
It might be a problem. I've got the Patriots finishing
second in that division, followed by the Dolphins and the
Jets bringing up the rear. That is your AFC East.
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Over in the North, this one I struggled with. I
struggled with both Norths. In the AFC North, I've got
the Bengals winning the division. I've got the Baltimore Ravens
finishing second, and then I've got Pittsburgh finishing third, followed
by the Cleveland Browns, who I think is not a
stunner based on how that whole offseason has gone for them.
Over in the AFC South, Lebar's favorite division, I've got
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the Houston Texans finishing one, follow by the Jaguars, the Colts,
and the Titans. In the AFC West, the Bolts back
the Chargers will be winning that division yet again. I'll
spin the chamber one more time see if I can
get it right this year. But I've got the Chargers
winning the AFC West, followed by the Kansas City Chiefs,
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the Broncos, and the Raiders. That'll be your AFC picks
over there. What's wrong with my.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Picksmar Well, because a lot of them match mine and
I don't like agreeing with you.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You guys must hit in bed together, I mean on
these picks. Damn you know dogs here too.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
Yeah, bring it home.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
By the way, I don't know how the hell I
said Pittsburgh. What I say nine ten and seven, I
don't know. I was reading a different teams schedule, So
I'm sorry about that Textedly, I'm not sure he's gonna
get it.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
But that's why I'm not even going to get into
doing what you did. I'm gonna go with what Jonas did.
I'm not giving any any records or anything like that.
I'm just going to give who I felt is going
to do it finish where they're going to finish.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I'll start with the North.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I do have Cincinnati a top of the AFC North.
I do believe they will start quicker this year. And
they'll be a much better team for longer. This year
just depends on the health of Joe Burrow. In my estimation,
I got them one, Baltimore two, Pittsburgh rounding it out
at three. And yes, the Cleveland Brown's kicking the can
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at four down the street. I wonder what that means
for Stefanski and company. In the East of the AFC. Yes,
New England. I have New England at the bottom, all
the way at the bottom, even though I love the
Mad Mike Rabela, think they're going to be way down there.
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And well, I think that the New York Jets won't
be far off from them, but they will be able
to see the New England Patriots easier than the well
the number one team, which I'll get to in one second,
but I guess you'll know because the runner up are
the Fins. Yeah, the Miami Dolphins. I got the mat
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number two, and that means that Buffalo is going to
win the AFC East, and I think it will be
by a long shot. So moving to the South, Yes,
I feel like this is the DQ not the BQ prediction,
But this is the disqualified predictions part of the conference
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or part of the Division. I got the Texans winning it.
I think they'll have It's interesting. They had a good
year last year, just didn't feel like they had a
good year. I don't know why, but they did, finishing
double digits of wins and they did make it to
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I think they'll be better this year. So I got
the Texans winning it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I don't know why I put the Jags at too,
because I feel like Tennessee or Indiana could possibly knock
them off. I guess we could say they have more
of what you would call stability at the quarterbacks position,
so I'll put the Mats second.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I got Tennessee. Like I said, they could go either way.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Between Tennessee and Indiana or the j if I'm being
honest in my estimation. But I got Tennessee at three
and I got Indy at four. I think the indecision
at quarterback, well maybe not in decision, but I don't
know the quarterback situation, and Indy I just I don't
trust it, so I feel like that might be a
reason why they struggle. So I got them coming in
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at fourth. The West. I think KSE is due for
a down moment, not a down year, So for a
down moment, I'll have them finishing behind the Chargers, which
I think they're going to be on the rise. I
just think hardball led teams after they get a little
bit of time in his scheme and in what he's
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got going on, he just doesn't miss. And I think
that he's got what he needs. I think he's got
the confidence of Herbert, and he's got a he's got
this a nice supporting cast. They're going to run the
ball down people, just shove it down people's throats, just
force it down their throats, choking them out almost so
to speak, unless they don't have a gag reflex. But
I digress. I think that the Chargers will be number
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one and Case will be number two. I think Denver
will be competitive, I really do. I think this will
be a very very competitive year for the West. Outside
of the lonely number four Las Vegas Raiders, they won't
be competitive, but I think the other three teams will be.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Eh.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
There you go. That's my AFC picks.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Which was the which division was the most difficult to
pick in the AFC? For you guys like I would
you say you struggled with.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
If I'm being honest, I would say the AFC East,
AFC South, because you know, it's hard to pick a
lot of losses for teams because you're like, man, I
just picked.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
The loss the last four games for that team, you know.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
But you know, there's a lot of things I look
at the buys, you know, home game advantage, so a
little you know stats for you. Between the nineteen seventies,
roughly nineteen seventeen twenty ten, home teams had a up
to sixty percent advantage, like sixty percent of the time
the home team's won. Since twenty nineteen, it's been closed
(31:08):
to like fifty two to fifty three percent. So when
I do these, obviously I try to factor some of
that in. If I'm like a little bit not sure
what I'm thinking about this matchup or whatever the case,
maybe I'll just kind of lean on more of a
home team in homefield advantage. But that's jodled over the
last six years, which is kind of interesting when you
look at it.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I say to North, Jonas, and I say the North
because I'm with it. I do not have an idea
of what Pittsburgh can be. Pittsburgh could actually sneak up
on people and be the one that ends up on
top of.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Even though you've been against Rogers like the entire.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. I don't I'm not.
I'm not blind to the fact that they could possibly
be a competitive team more so than what I think.
I just think there's too many questions marks to make
that type of commitment.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
So here's why it was somewhat easy for me, is
I feel like Sincinnian and Baltimore anny playoff teams, So
I know one of those two is going to win
it the way the schedule worked out, having to be
sincey the way I did it, and then I think
Cleveland would be somewhere in the bottom. So yeah, I
didn't know where Pittsburgh would end up. But at ten
and seven, I look at that and just say, okay,
Like that's that comes down to, like their schedule, who
they beat, who they didn't, which is interesting because like
(32:15):
ten and seven is a good record, and if it
does work out that way where they go ten and seven,
they don't make it. I'm not sure you make of things.
I'm not sure if Rogers comes back for another year,
maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Kind of find that all interesting, So I don't know
who's going to be one, two or three. That I
gave my prediction of what I think it will be.
I just don't know who will be one, two and three.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It could be. Also, it's such a musical chairs if
you have no idea.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I also struggled. I'm not crazy about taking the Chargers
with the Slater injury. They've got a running back who
you know, almost blew his face off at a fireworks
show and fourth of July like, I'm not that seems.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Can I give you a little bit of color there?
Can I give you something some optim And.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I'm a big believer in the Super Bowl hangover. I
know that the Chiefs it doesn't apply to them or
the Patriots of the past number of number of years.
But I just wonder if you know age some other factors.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
So when had Harball is always at his best when
there's some drama going on, think about that's right.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
He wasn't even there in happy value last year and they.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Still always at his best when the drama he uses
that he uses that drama as like super fuel.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Plus, I mean, justin coming from LaVar would know like
Penn state has not being Michigan in a while, so
it's been.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
A long time.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Plus he got justin Herbert, you know, walking around playing
board games, drinking wine with that rocket ship Madison Beer.
I don't know if that's still going on, but just
feels like.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
It's you can't keep saying her name. It's only gonna
trigger lead immediately gon a liquor store, Like the whole name?
Why do you say the whole name like that?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
What am I supped?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Saying? Just the way they.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Said it was a little bit ta bit creepy though,
Like I don't know beer, No, not the way you
just said it. When you said it, when it was
justin Herbert's Matt Madison Beer or whatever her name is,
you said it a little differently.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
That's her name. I don't know what to tell you.
I thought Petros had a fair breakdown of her.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You know, what was it?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
She had a time where she was shopped in another aisle?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
What was it she was? That's correct, there were there's
my pictures.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
My ale.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I don't really know where I am.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
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Speaker 1 (34:53):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
with you Coming up next here, though, we're going to
tell you about somebody who may get the presentation, the honor,
the celebration they finally deserve. It's just going to take
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Speaker 8 (35:11):
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Speaker 1 (35:22):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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Speaker 8 (36:02):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer, Lee.
Speaker 10 (36:15):
Lap Good more than everybody, good, more than Jonas. Good
morning Brady, Good morning LeVar. Guys, I am pumped. How
about this? In case you missed it. Robert Kraft was
on WBZTV yesterday and asked about you know we saw
earlier this year the unveiling of the Tom Brady statue.
Speaker 11 (36:33):
Could we be seen a Bill Belichick statue anytime soon?
This is what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
When that great twenty year era ended. It was always
my intention to commission a statue for both Tommy and
Bill when their respective careers were over playing and coaching,
and when Bill's coaching career ends, we look forward to
sitting down with him and having as that you may
(37:02):
be right next to Tommy.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Was that Larry Merchant? Tommy, he's got a got a
Larry Merchant cadence going on.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
We want to sit down with him next to them
and make sure that we commission that. You think a
statue next to Tommy.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I don't think Belichick is interested in, you know, getting
a statue or man, we're getting a celebration from Robert.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Last time he was ever successful whoa.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
The way, the way that relationship sort of dwindled towards
the end, and since then the comments since then, I
don't think. I don't think that'll be happening anytime.
Speaker 10 (37:45):
Could he could Robert Craft put up a statue of Bill,
Belichick said, I don't want there to be a statue.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I mean, yeah, I think when they use your uh,
your name in your face everything, yeah, I think it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
He could say no.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Say no to him might make it awkward if he's
not there during the unveiling.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Of it, though, why would he not be there?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Jonas because they don't get along and don't like each other.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, but that's still his legacy, Jonas, Like, you cannot
like somebody, but they had great success together that that's
not disqualified Jonas.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Okay, well, then I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll
call every ax I ever knew that I didn't get
along with afterwards, and we'll celebrate our anniversary again.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I mean, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
That makes sense?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
There was no success in that relationship. That's why they're
your ex.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Oh boy, you guys are great.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That's ridiculous. Jonas is a horrible Uh. It was a
good point by Jonas, though. I would like to see
that play itself out. I would like to see it,
but not for comparison's sake. I just would like to
see it. First of all, I'd like to see what
they look like, you know. Second of all, of course,
you were the reason why it didn't work out. Damn
did I just want to hear about.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
It, dah Lee, what else we got? I'm not going
to be attacking.
Speaker 10 (39:03):
Yeah, well, guys, In case you missed this, more changes
to the W to the w NBA, the NBA All
Star Game, the format for the Yeah right, the format
for the twenty twenty six NBA All Star Game is
likely to be a round robin tournament consisting of three
eight player teams of two USA teams and one World team.
Speaker 11 (39:22):
NBA and the NBA and players.
Speaker 10 (39:24):
You presented the format to the league Competition Committee and
the response was positive.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Though, God, what a circus. Yeah, just you just get
rid of it. Just stop, Like, why why is it?
Why is this? Why are they still still trying to
revive a corpse? It's over, you ruin the All Star Game?
It's done. Stop trying to give CPR to a dead body.
(39:52):
It's a rap. How many different concoctions are they going
to come up with before you just realize it? Man,
if these guys aren't interested and don't want to participate
unless they're hungover and laughing at you know, Fergie singing
the national anthem, then this is just not going to
be what it was but we were growing up. Just isn't.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
All right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I don't know. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
I don't know how to save any of these All
Star Games. It's not just an NBA problem. It's at
every I mean, baseball is doing one. This seems to
do it right, but I don't know. Man, it's tough.
Can't make the players play and make it competitive.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
It's hard Lee.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
What else we got, well, guys, in case you missed this.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Uh oh, we all missed it. No,
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