October 2, 2025 • 40 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about MLB Playoffs with the Wild Card round brining us three win-or-go-home Game 3s, Shedeur Sanders refusing to comment on Dillion Gabriel being named the starter for the Browns by acting like a mime, an abrupt retirement in ICYMI, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, of course, we're going to
talk football Week five in the NFL kicks off later
on tonight, and it does not look good for one
team involved. Plus it does not look good for some
missing birds at SOFI Stadium. We'll discuss. We're also going
to talk about the very latest around the NFL with
(00:20):
Albert Preer, who stops by. He's got a scorching hot
take about the MLB playoffs and if you've watched the
MLB playoffs, take it all in, enjoy it, because you
don't get it like that in some other leagues. We're
also going to have a conversation about somebody who thought,
you know what if I just act like a mime
after the media talks to me, that's going to go
over well. Swing and a miss by shad Or Sanders,
(00:43):
no pun intended. With the MLB postseason here, we're also
going to have a conversation about the financial aspects of
college football, nil infusions in the Big Ten and it's
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Speaker 2 (01:58):
Are we feeling, guys?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
What a night of baseball? What a night at baseball?
Say that again? The best Jonason inspired me?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You know once he kind of called out the fact
that he's like, yeah, you know, baseball, it's been awesome.
I was like, maybe I watch a little bit with
the girls. Man, they were into it, they were excited.
I uh, I forgot my uh my mother in law
is gonna be in talent. She's a huge Boston Red
Sox fan. So it was kind of nice seeing the
Yankees extended a little further. You know what I'm saying,
Little goungs there, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Where did the Red Sox fall in the pecking order
of their sports loyalty to Boston?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think there's somewhere below the Bruins and Pats, though,
but they're higher than the Celtics, So I think it's
like probably Pats, Bruins, Red Sox Celtics.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I think although the Red Sox and Bruins could be close,
I just.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I think that uh this and it'll never happened. And
I made the comment to you yesterday, but the best
of three element to the wild card round in the playoffs, Oh,
it's awesome. It's awesome because right out of the gate
you lose one, you're on like you are on the
brink from the get go, and in the NBA and
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in the NBA you don't have any of that stuff.
And it's not to pick on the NBA because the
past postseason was was fun. There was a lot of
exciting moments, a lot of exciting games, like all of that,
we got, we got our Game seven's all of that,
But there's just too much of a whatever, we'll get
the next one. And in baseball you can't, like you
have to get that one otherwise your your back is
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against the wall and you're you're fighting for survival ever
after that moving forward.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So I think it's fair and the atmosphere is fantastic too.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What's wrong, sticks.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, what's up with your Cubs? I mean, we're putting
we're putting teams on the brink of on the brink,
We're putting teams in order of importance. How high are
they on your list? And how quickly are they hitting
home on the brink?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And uh and probably today that today will probably be that,
that'll probably do it based on their history. But yeah,
they got another game to play with and now you've
got three game threes coming up later and it's winner
go home for all those teams. I mean the Dodgers
Red Series whatever that was, that was, you know, kind
of a kind of a wasted what the Red is just.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Happy to be there. And then and you look at
that game. They were up early, weren't.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
They was like to nothing, they were to nothing on
an air and then they were just holding on for
dear life afterwards. But you know, the Dodgers moving forward,
their bullpen is.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Just leaky legal What was the payroll difference between those
two significant million?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Significant?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Can they win it with a lead? What a leaky
uh bullpen?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
If they get really dominant pitching, like dominant starting pitching
and their offense explodes.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
But the problem is don't you need your bullpen when
you get to this time of the year though, Like
that's like that's like what bullpens are made up, Like
that's how history's made with.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Bullpens, right, Yeah, that's and that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I know this to be true because I am a
outside of being a growing up Pirates fan, I am
a Washington Nationals fan by you know, the.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Way of living there and being part of the community, and.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I just could remember the Rizzo years when I was there,
the like the early Strasbourg years, like our bullpen, wow,
you know, it had Zimmerman and all those guys. I
was like like, all right, we're going to get through it.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
We're going to get through.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And then they start having all this talk about the bullpens,
and as good as our bullpen was, they couldn't get
us over the hump back then. And I just recall
that being like that was literally the biggest conversation of
the playoffs was like the bullpen couldn't you know, they
just couldn't close out the games. And anyway, Yeah, so
(06:07):
while I am not a big baseball fan, I do
watch playoffs. I was actually at Rock and Bruise with
Trician Pen after Depends volleyball session yesterday and I was watching.
But it's weird because you know, I can't really get
into it. Like I was listening to you know, I
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was asking myself the question, like, how can you tell
what type of pitch they're throwing? Like I could see
like some of them. The one guy who was throwing it,
it dropped and it was like right near the dude
shin cap and all that stuff like that, and it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Was a strike, flip finger fastball there.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Maybe it was a fast one though it was. It
wasn't like all I'm I'm sitting there and I'm like, yeah,
I can't you know, And baseball isn't it. I don't
think it's crazy hard to be able to comprehend it
and keep up with it. I just you know, like
what type of pitch was that? Or why are they
doing this? And you know that was really it. And
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you know some of the people they're just not they're
not made from from this this earth, like Judge is not.
He's not. He's pretty half cyborg too, like he's a
He's a pretty interesting looking dude too, man.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I mean, but he.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And Otani's just different, different man. But I mean, Judge
is a different looking dude too. And I guess, you know,
I don't know. I guess that wasn't really good enough
for them in the playoffs, but I mean, or hasn't
been or we'll see, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I watched, but it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Just doesn't like really like doing analysis work or like
would I ever call a baseball game or be a
part of it like that?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I guess I leave that to you guys.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And I've enjoyed listening to the commentary of family family,
ranking of teams and and and you know wild cards
and how interesting they are and and what led to
me jumping in which was bulletin bull pen discussion. So
thanks for that, guys. I'm I'm happy to be.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
A part of them.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
If there's a if you can sense the stress level
of the fans in the stadium and it comes through
on the television, I think that's good television. It's why
It's why the Penn State Oregon game was great television
because you could tell the intensity. It's why fantastic stress.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, it's always a good comparison when when it comes
my way and it didn't come out the way it
was supposed to, you know, because I would still be
being a sore sore winner right now had we won
that game. I feel like football Jesus didn't want us
to win because of the type of person I would
be on this show to you both.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That I mean, be the most mature.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I'm from Pittsburgh, right, but like even I was like, hey,
take Oregon in three and a half, You're like two
Orchard saw And I was like, oh, well, I mean
Notre Dame beat him so bad that Sam Pittman got
fired it's.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Like, geez, like you have as many We don't have
as many losses as Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Though I understand that.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But my season, I'm just by the end of the season,
it's gonna look exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Buddy, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Hey, don't buddy me when we're talking about Penn State.
All right, Hey buddy, you don't, buddy, We are bros.
But but don't. But you know, buddy, when my brother
used to do that to me, and that was my
older brother, I'm punch him right in his right and
is like his is uh what what is that on
the side of your your your your stomach, your ear?
What's on the side your liver? Bleak? The oblique?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Is that what? It's a liver shot? Yeah, liver shot, buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Buddy was the dismissive term that would get you going.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah that my brother would hit me with, Hey, buddy,
not pal like chill buddy, not jerko.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
My buddy, buddy, my buddy.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Car He's going to go, my buddy, buddy, my buddy.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I think, buddy, you have any loser kids actually asked
for this when they were younger. Okay, I don't have
any real friends Can I get it? Can I get
a stuffed animal that looks like a human? What a
bunch of losers? Are those cabbage patch kids?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah? Like they look like it a little bit though,
look like little Chucky's.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Because something about the way cabbage patch kids smelled.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh my goodness, really I want to sniff one right now.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Back to grown man talking and then it's like my buddy,
yeah yeah, but we we we're going forehead to forehead
on buddy, like, hey, buddy, like whatever you say, buddy,
And then when paled, when pal come out, then you
knew it was it was time to touch.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
We was going to touch gloves. You know what about chief?
If someone's like all right, chief, how do you take
that one?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I feel like Chief was like respectful, like hey Chief,
like host hoss chief. Those were like kind of like
endearing terms like you're a bad right what about you know?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
B u b bub?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Bub is kind of like indifferent.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You're not really important, but you're not really like being
slighted either, like hey bub, Like you know.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
What about watch it bub?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah? Watch it bub? Like it's not intimidating in any way.
It doesn't make you feel it doesn't incite any emotions.
Nothing comes from bub you know, nothing, but buddy, Buddy
is like kind of dismissive. It is kind of dismissive.
And if you're dismissing me, I'm gonna want to fight you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I don't know. I'm just frightful that.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I saw those skinny arms you've got. I'm willing to
fetch you. Yeah, skinny arms.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, I'm glad you set that screenshot.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I didn't realize, like the shoulder pads were massive when
you played in college.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But yes, it was like, kind of have those skinny arms. Huh.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I've always been skinny, bruh, except my belly in my face.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It's the only thing that get away from me. I
quit drinking. I'm not drinking anymore. I'm going to lose
at least twenty thirty pounds. It's also the right way. Yeah,
it's also do it the right way. I'm going to
start walking. I'm going to stop drinking. I'm going to
keep smoking, but I'm not.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Going to stop.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
There's there's probably some other people who could use that advice.
On the shot, I think we're too soon. Wherever you
guy says.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know, well, hey, you know whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You know, you got to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But I'm not doing it for that. I'm doing it
because it just makes my belly big And back to
my little ass arms.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
They work really really.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Well though, like they're they're like, I'm like Buster Douglas.
I'm not. I'm not like Bruno. Like I'm not. I'm
not like one of these yoked up boxers out here.
I got the bad body, I got the Larry Holmes body.
But but these things right here they're working muscles. Hey
Larry Holmes underrated boxer. Yeah, they're working muscles. I will
jab the hell out of somebody, you know what I mean.
(13:33):
There's some real power there too, you know, I mean
arm wrestle me. I'll show you how these little arms work.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Ah. Now, not to uh, not to deter from you know,
this discussion about violence in the world.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Now, let's get back.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
To Brady thoughts on Tribe time, Game three Tiggers, Guardians
coming up.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Electric at three etric atmosphere. Yeah, I'm uh.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Now do you have do you have any Guardians gears?
It all the Indian stuff anymore.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I don't have one thing that says Guardians on it. Look,
I was never whatever what do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, all I know is there will be enough juice
in that place to be able to get a win today.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
All right, That's all I know.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But I'm not gonna try to break down the games
because no one gives a crap a baseball guys, so
no one cares. What there is this conspiracy theory out
there is someone said to me, They're like, oh, just
how major League Baseball wanted it all game threes? And
I was like, well, okay, not all Like obviously the
Dodgers took care of business, but there's also this sense
(14:45):
of like the TV networks wanted the leagues don't care really,
like ultimately they don't care like the leagues like they
just wanted to be close games, fun games, great atmosphere,
but like it's the networks who care. The networks have
already paid for this, so they're the ones that hoping
that it gets to three games and that every series
after that goes to seven or whatever the best of
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is so they can make back their money. That's what
it matters to. So I don't know, I just there
was like this conspiracy theory floating around there online. Tom, Like,
first off, why are you complaining it's awesome? Like these
are going to game threes, it's more intense. It's like,
how is major League Baseball catching this stray for this?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And also if you look at the matchups, Cleveland Detroit
know each other and they're in the same division. They've
been battling it out for a playoff spot for weeks now.
Boston and New York know each other, and the Cubs
and Padres have almost the identical record. It's not that
far fetched to think, oh, they might have split the
first two and it's going to go to game three
and they both want a game Like it's just like
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they're matched up evenly. If you look at the lines,
like they're matched up virtually evenly across the board. The
Dodgers and Reds was an anomaly, Like the Mets would
have been a better matchup because they had more power.
There was more opportunity for a potential win. But like
these other games, like, yeah, it's the play it's the
best of the best, Like there's there's not as much
(16:09):
of a difference where you look at a one versus
an eight in the NBA and you're like, all right,
this is a waste of time. Like, that's that's not
what this is. And that's why the MLB postseason is
in my mind better than the NBA playoffs, and fan
boys can argue against that. They all they wanted, just
not the case.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Is the CE in the logo from the old logos
list or is it? Is it new? Is the C
new or has it been there for the entire.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Time all the Guardians.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I know that the Guardians is different, and I know
that that's new, But is it like a sneaky like
type of deal to have the C because isn't the
C still from the old logo key? Or was that
made new when they changed the Guardians. I know they
had to change the Guardians.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It looks similar same, it does look similar, but they
had I.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Think there's like two or three different seas.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You believe you're not going to find a lot you're
I think you're right. It's their way around the old
old Sea.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
The the old sea was like the top of it
was rounded, and now that the sea it's like pointed.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
It's pointed.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But that's not they didn't have that in the old
key that was created now with the Guardians.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, the old Sea was just like rounded at the
top and kind of flyting, and same thing for the bottom.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
See.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I feel like then they should use the old sea
so that you can bring back some of that old
swag man.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Like that's what I think the problem.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I mean sometimes like because you know, Washington didn't have
many you know, they didn't have a whole bunch of
different I mean the R, you know what I mean.
But you couldn't get away with the R because the
R still represented red skin.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So but you guys got a see for Cleveland, I
used that old seed, like I would have never change
the sea. Wat change the sea? Well, just keep the
sea the same.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Most of the old stuff as Chief Wahoo, which.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Was you know, the Vinta. But the sea doesn't, I know,
but the old sea doesn't.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And that gives you an opportunity to still kind of
stay connected to the past, you know what I mean,
like the old sea.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I just sent you guys a picture of the Cleveland
Browns logos. Literally, tell me what they've done different since
nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know what it is?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The face mask.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
It is the face mask.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
They literally added an extra bar on the face mask.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I think the orange color has changed a little it's
a little bit more bolder, it's a little bit more
oranger on the present day one. I personally like the
old Browns, like the forty eight, fifty eight, the fifty nine,
sixty nine. It kind of reminds me of Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Little little elf.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah it looks like but it almost looks like a
little leper kunt.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
You know, yeah, something like that. The problem is they
could Jonas would make fun of him. You know, he'd
be saying, like all sorts.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Of crazy, you know, honestly got it. Well, the first
time they brought back the elf recently, I thought it
was a girl who had just you know, thrown up
her lunch.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Like.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I didn't realize that it was an elf, And I
didn't understand the why the elf was attached to the Browns,
Like it didn't make any sense to me. And then
they rolled that. They rolled out some bull mastiff who
you know, probably lied. H he's probably dead now, but
you know.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well it's it probably lived longer than yours though, right, Yeah,
big big.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Jonas's bull mastiff was was five hundred pounds.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Why do you guys always embellish it? It was five
thirty eight all right at peak, at peak, and then
you know, we had a lion cut some weight to
uh you know, to be able to type.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So okay, yeah it's.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
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Speaker 2 (20:10):
Maybe do you still think about don't?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I have no choice. I have his pawprint tattooed on
my shoulder. I'm trying to get away from it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It's a tad bit. Almost said a slur. That's pretty aggressive. Yeah,
tell me about pressive.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's pretty well.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You did it. It's not like someone else did.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I know. I thought it was a great idea. It's awful.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
But you had two mastiffs.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah yeah, the other one you only got the okay, yeah, yeah,
the other one.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Didn't make the cut.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
The other one died early. He died at like seven
whole seven years wasn't long enough for you. It got
bloat man, look up bloat.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's brutal.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
But I'm just saying, but you didn't get the bloated
dogs uh paul print that was cut because what he
wasn't long around long enough?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know what, they give you.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Enough great memories.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I think seven years.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think I was so traumatized that I thought, uh,
when Hog turned seven, I thought, listen, I gotta get
his pawprint because he could go at any moment.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And then he lived in a We didn't even know
the name of the first one. What's the other ones?
N Well, you don't even hear.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well, you know, he had a couple of different nams.
So I was a big craig. Iron had Hayward fan.
Oh nice, So I called him Iron little thingy.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
People won't get that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That was hey man.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You know, that was when Lufa's first came out. Literally,
it was like an invention that had first been released.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Believe look at the little thingy little thingy.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, Cam Hayward's dad was a spokesman. Iron had Hayward
for Lufah's back in the day.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
No, it wasn't for Lufas, it was for soap. It
was some type of soap. He was his big ass
was in the shower taking a shower. He's like, look
at this little thinky ironhead.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah. So we were.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
We were all Ironhead fans on Pittsburgh. I love Darnett Hayward.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So yeah, it was Ironhead, but he had like different
names because some people, you know, didn't like that because
they were Raider fans of my family, so they wanted
to call them how wee after how we long? You know,
there's just there was, you know. But that was probably
why he got.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Out of earth.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It was like a racial divide over what to call
the percent.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, that's and that's that's why he got out early.
It is like I can't handle this anymore. I'll just
make my stomach flip the bloat, yeah, and get out
of it.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Over here.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Too indecisive, these people are. Here's where you can make
decisions easy.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Though at the Home Deepot have more feelings towards towards
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Speaker 8 (23:00):
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here in about fifteen minutes from now. Speaking of Cleveland,
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speaking of the Browns, they made a decision yesterday at quarterback,
Joe Flacco has been benched. Dylan Gabriel is going to
be the starter, with Joe Flacco being number two on
the depth chart and Shadoor Sanders remaining number three, and
so Kevin Stefanski, the head coach, discussed the decision into
(25:05):
giving Dylan Gabriel the opportunity and also uh was asked
about why Shador didn't move further up the depth chart.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
From the second he's been here. He's been working very hard,
very intelligent young man. He's he's done a nice job
throughout practice this whole season. He's been learning how to
get yourself ready and understand the rhythm of an NFL
week and what that looks like as a backup. And
obviously now feel like he's ready, that's going as a starter.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And they're talking about Dylan Gabriel right there.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, he's talking about Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Who do you think he was talking about?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, I was just making sure that the audience out
there understood that because it's like, wait.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I know you're trying to it's a social at all.
It's a social.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
What is the biggest hitlines? The biggest hitline when you
type in Browns, the first thing you should see come up.
ESPN pundits give Shador Sanders advice. Joe Flacco blindsided by
benching Dylan Gabriel, Schador Sanders facing questions God full full
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mind Brown's quarterback tiers. Evaluating forty one starters from Cleveland
since ninety nine, two out of the foreheadlines that pop
up Q have Shador Sanders in them.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And we're talking.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I'm not trying to hype it up. I'm just telling
you that this is a conversation that brings in Shador
Sanders every single time I was. I asked the question
because I felt like I got it on the points
I finished.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
We'll talk about why we're talking about him today because
we have sound. We have Shador's reaction to this news,
and that's why we're talking about it today. We're not
talking about it for any other reason other than what
he did yesterday in reaction to all this.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Is that fair? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, and the sound of Shador from yesterday.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Let's hear it, well, can we hear him? Yeah, he's
a real question.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, he didn't. He didn't say anything, uh exactly. Kevin
Stefanski was asked about why Shador was not named the
the backup, and it sounded like this was there along
with changing to tilling.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Was there any conversation at all about that he should
have watch number two and making.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Sure Yeah, my focus is on this game. Jose backup.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, so shador no comment, turned into a mime, you know,
played along with the media.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
A member of the Browns.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Media relations team pulled him away afterwards and there was no.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Co so just described what he did because I don't
think people understood the context. He the door, stood there
in front of the media and they asked him questions
and he moved his mouth, but he made no words
came out.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And he did this for what five minutes, four minutes
whatever it was?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Uh, yeah it was. It was a little while.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, it got to the point where and I had
a couple media people reach out and their comments were literally,
that was the oddest. That was the weirdest thing I've
ever experienced covering the Browns. And these are people who've
covered it for a long time. And I said to myself, like,
they've seen a lot of things like that's that's saying something.
(28:28):
But supposedly this was in response to something that was
said on ESPN by someone who's taken a lot of
uh a lot of hot takes so far this year.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Do we have this sound for Rex Ryan?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
An outstanding coach, all right, but why the hell isn't
he putting should or Sanders. We're all waiting to see
this Shad or Sanders be the guy or Gabriel whatever.
Something's missing, something's missing with this kid. This kid talks,
he runs his mouth like he's a I could be
a starting quarterback with his arms crossed like this. Get
your ass in the front row and study and do
(29:01):
all that. If I know, the whole league, nos quld
be in an embarrassment that way. You got the talent
to be the quarterback, you should be you should be
embarrassed that you're not the quarterback now.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yeah, So supposedly this is why he didn't say anything,
and this is why he did what he did, which
was just incredibly odd.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Like I don't even know what to make of that.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It comes off as very immature as a response, even
if it was to Rex Ryan.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Kind of bizarre.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I mean, I've never seen a player handle things like
that before.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
There's kind of cringey, kind of all that my old
thing on.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Day get out a dude in Cleveland reporter didn't he
like bathing? And after they won? That was in Cleveland
at last.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Oh that was Tim Tim McCarver. Yeah, the yeah, the broadcaster.
I I don't I look at it like this, if
should or obviously once would love to.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Be the starter.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
He would love to be the guy that is starting
for the Browns this weekend and moving forward. And my
old thought on it, just in general NFL or anything,
if you want the job and you don't have the job,
then your job is to show why you should be
the guy who does. And he's done everything the opposite
(30:26):
to where Kevin Stefanski's having to answer questions about, hey,
you know, Shador says he's ready to start, It's okay, Well,
I think all of our young guys feel like they're
ready to start, and he turns into a mime yesterday
when there's a decision made at quarterback. The whole thing's
just odd And I don't know why. How could you
think that that would get you closer to an opportunity
(30:48):
to be somebody that they trust. And maybe this is
part of the reason why some of the stuff came
out in the draft. Why Brian Daball was like yeah,
like he wasn't prepared and then he got upset when
I called him out because you know, he didn't know
certain things, and like all these stories start to add up,
and you look at it and go, why would they
Why would Kevin Stefanski, whose job might be on the line,
(31:10):
trust his fate with the Browns on somebody who you know,
turns into a mind when people ask him about the
quarterback situation there for five minutes or whatever. It was
just strange.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Man oh man, go ahead, Q, you want it, you
have it.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I mean, well, I've already said my part. I mean,
like I said, I've never seen anything.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Like this before. And this isn't like an exclusive thing
to the Browns.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I just I think it's an incredibly immature way of
handling the media, and for as medias savvy as he
is and the family is for that matter. You know,
you know he's been taught and raised different and so's
it's one of those moments where you know he like
he's a rookie, he's gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
This to me is a mistake.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It's not how you you know, handle criticism from Rex Ryan.
And the other thing is is like he's always putting
out this like I don't live listen to the critics,
sim I don't listen to any of that. I don't
be so well, yeah, you do, cause you just did
one of the most bizarre things we have ever seen
as now a professional athlete in the NFL, and it's
only creating more stir like not for what you're doing
(32:15):
in practice or playing. Like one of the things that
we heard about Jackson Dart with the Giants organization and
Breer said this, And I had reached out to Dable
and talked to some of the people in the organization
and this is like earlier on in camp, and they're like, yeah,
we feel like this thing is like he's right, like
more ready than we thought, Like he's more ready to
take over and be the guy than we thought. But
(32:37):
we're gonna kind of stick with the plan and see
how this thing goes. And so when you see Jackson
Dart succeed and they even even light the world on fire,
but they gotta win, then that was a change. And
you watch how he handles the press, you watch how
he handles everything. You're like, Okay, that guy seems like
he's ready for it. Does this make anyone feel like
Shade or Sanders is ready to take over the rains
be the starting quarterback? Like it leaves me to think
(32:59):
that if you're not gonna listen to a guy like
Rex Ryan, who's probably hearing from people inside the Browns
organization because there's always leaks there that whatever he's doing
or whatever they've seen, you know, seen heard that he's
not ready. Like he's trying to give a little bit
of advice here, Like I know it comes off as
(33:21):
him being critical or you know, providing criticism, but the
reality is he's trying to get you to be the
guy that Cleveland's hoping you'll be.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
You say you are. I think a lot of people
are hoping you'll be.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
And so if you if you don't want to, you know,
listen to that and take that as like, all right,
maybe I need to look in the mirror. Maybe I'm
not doing something the right way. But instead that's your response,
I don't know like that, That to me leads me
to think that what he does get the play and
things don't go, well, who do you think he's gonna blame?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Then?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Who do you think he's gonna point the finger at?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
He's said Rex Ryan.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
If I know everyone knows that's a damning comment like
that is a that is something to really if I
wish the door, I wouldn't be handling it that way,
I'd be sitting there and I'd be thinking about it, like, man,
I gotta make sure I have a job. You know
what third string quarterbacks represent, you know what third string
anything represents. You're actually closer to being out the door
(34:24):
than you are in the door. Let's just be clear here, Like,
that's that's a real You are the most expendable player
on a roster outside of a practice squad player, which
some would say third string is a.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Practice squad player.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Like that's that's the reality of the position. But then
now what jumped out at me is again, as the
question was asked and Stefanski said, I'm concentrating on this game,
you did not because you probably at one in three
you would probably lease Joe Flacco if you felt like
(35:03):
Shador Sanders was a legitimate option to go to as
a player, and you would elevate him to back up.
You did not elevate him to back up. You kept
him at third string while elevating your backup to starter.
And he's a rookie. So if you just if you
take the naming rights of this out of the equation
(35:26):
and you just look at this at at face value,
there again, I was surprised he made the team. I
really was, because I didn't think that they would carry
all three of them, and being a fifth round draft pick,
I just I know, you get guaranteed money or you
get a contract out of the situation, but I just
(35:46):
didn't think he'd make the roster. As you move forward
and you see a team that is failing, and a
failing team isn't taking a more serious look and approach
to how you move up and elevate into the roster
(36:09):
and how that may play out. I think that that
you're now making book. If I'm around the league, this
is not more of a personal, you know, opinion. I
think it's more of a general assumption and opinion as
it would apply to other teams, other gms. If I'm
looking at how this is playing out in Cleveland, he
(36:31):
becomes a radio active player. And when you look at
when you look at how it all played out in
the draft, and how the narratives were so strong towards Shador,
and how the whole draft was driven by Shador and
(36:53):
all of these storylines that continue to come out. The
worst thing that Shador Sanders could ever do is whether
for right or for wrong, whether I'm gonna be me,
and I'm i'm aa for right or for wrong. The
worst thing you could ever do is prove any critics
right in terms of how you handle things. That's the
(37:15):
worst thing that could happen, because now who's gonna want
to bring that type of player into into their facility.
I just don't I don't know. I don't know that
this works out the way that Shador Sanders wants it
to work out. If there isn't a come to Jesus moment.
The come to Jesus moment is you are not Deon Sanders.
(37:38):
You are not prime time, your Shadoor, your shadoor b Chador.
Do what you need to do and hope that those
those efforts are good enough, because even when you're good enough,
the numbers game says that a lot of times you're
not even gonna get that opportunity that you thought or
hoped you would get. So I think he's in a
(37:59):
tough situation here, and maturity, immaturity, whatever you want to
call it, it could cost him here. And that would
be said if his actions off off of the field
would actually cost him an opportunity on it.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, but I think that depends though speaking of depends depending.
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Speaker 6 (39:45):
Well, I don't know if you guys saw this, but
former All Pro defensive back is Even Howard abruptly retired
a couple of days after playing the Los Angeles Rams. Now,
I'm I'm not as old as you, guys, but you know,
I've been watching the NFL for a while. The first
I might remember anything like this happening was Vonte Davis
a while back. But a halftime yes, yeah, but I mean,
(40:08):
did was that like other than for injury? Did people
just like retire in the middle of a season that
didn't really happen back in the day?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Right, No, it's not that like medically reason but yeah,
just I'm just I'm done.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Like it's not very comtimes, you know when you know right.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Yeah he said, he just said, just wants to spend
more time with his family. He's tired of putting football first.
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You got no win to hold them? Good for him, No,
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after the media talks to me, that's going to go
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Speaker 2 (01:58):
Are we feeling, guys?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
What a night of baseball? What a night at baseball?
Say that again? The best Jonason inspired me?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You know once he kind of called out the fact
that he's like, yeah, you know, baseball, it's been awesome.
I was like, maybe I watch a little bit with
the girls. Man, they were into it, they were excited.
I uh, I forgot my uh my mother in law
is gonna be in talent. She's a huge Boston Red
Sox fan. So it was kind of nice seeing the
Yankees extended a little further. You know what I'm saying,
Little goungs there, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Where did the Red Sox fall in the pecking order
of their sports loyalty to Boston?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think there's somewhere below the Bruins and Pats, though,
but they're higher than the Celtics, So I think it's
like probably Pats, Bruins, Red Sox Celtics.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I think although the Red Sox and Bruins could be close,
I just.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I think that uh this and it'll never happened. And
I made the comment to you yesterday, but the best
of three element to the wild card round in the playoffs, Oh,
it's awesome. It's awesome because right out of the gate
you lose one, you're on like you are on the
brink from the get go, and in the NBA and
(03:22):
in the NBA you don't have any of that stuff.
And it's not to pick on the NBA because the
past postseason was was fun. There was a lot of
exciting moments, a lot of exciting games, like all of that,
we got, we got our Game seven's all of that,
But there's just too much of a whatever, we'll get
the next one. And in baseball you can't, like you
have to get that one otherwise your your back is
(03:43):
against the wall and you're you're fighting for survival ever
after that moving forward.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So I think it's fair and the atmosphere is fantastic too.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What's wrong, sticks.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, what's up with your Cubs? I mean, we're putting
we're putting teams on the brink of on the brink,
We're putting teams in order of importance. How high are
they on your list? And how quickly are they hitting
home on the brink?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And uh and probably today that today will probably be that,
that'll probably do it based on their history. But yeah,
they got another game to play with and now you've
got three game threes coming up later and it's winner
go home for all those teams. I mean the Dodgers
Red Series whatever that was, that was, you know, kind
of a kind of a wasted what the Red is just.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Happy to be there. And then and you look at
that game. They were up early, weren't.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
They was like to nothing, they were to nothing on
an air and then they were just holding on for
dear life afterwards. But you know, the Dodgers moving forward,
their bullpen is.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Just leaky legal What was the payroll difference between those
two significant million?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Significant?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Can they win it with a lead? What a leaky
uh bullpen?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
If they get really dominant pitching, like dominant starting pitching
and their offense explodes.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
But the problem is don't you need your bullpen when
you get to this time of the year though, Like
that's like that's like what bullpens are made up, Like
that's how history's made with.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Bullpens, right, Yeah, that's and that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I know this to be true because I am a
outside of being a growing up Pirates fan, I am
a Washington Nationals fan by you know, the.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Way of living there and being part of the community, and.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I just could remember the Rizzo years when I was there,
the like the early Strasbourg years, like our bullpen, wow,
you know, it had Zimmerman and all those guys. I
was like like, all right, we're going to get through it.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
We're going to get through.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And then they start having all this talk about the bullpens,
and as good as our bullpen was, they couldn't get
us over the hump back then. And I just recall
that being like that was literally the biggest conversation of
the playoffs was like the bullpen couldn't you know, they
just couldn't close out the games. And anyway, Yeah, so
(06:07):
while I am not a big baseball fan, I do
watch playoffs. I was actually at Rock and Bruise with
Trician Pen after Depends volleyball session yesterday and I was watching.
But it's weird because you know, I can't really get
into it. Like I was listening to you know, I
(06:28):
was asking myself the question, like, how can you tell
what type of pitch they're throwing? Like I could see
like some of them. The one guy who was throwing it,
it dropped and it was like right near the dude
shin cap and all that stuff like that, and it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Was a strike, flip finger fastball there.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Maybe it was a fast one though it was. It
wasn't like all I'm I'm sitting there and I'm like, yeah,
I can't you know, And baseball isn't it. I don't
think it's crazy hard to be able to comprehend it
and keep up with it. I just you know, like
what type of pitch was that? Or why are they
doing this? And you know that was really it. And
(07:07):
you know some of the people they're just not they're
not made from from this this earth, like Judge is not.
He's not. He's pretty half cyborg too, like he's a
He's a pretty interesting looking dude too, man.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I mean, but he.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And Otani's just different, different man. But I mean, Judge
is a different looking dude too. And I guess, you know,
I don't know. I guess that wasn't really good enough
for them in the playoffs, but I mean, or hasn't
been or we'll see, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I watched, but it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Just doesn't like really like doing analysis work or like
would I ever call a baseball game or be a
part of it like that?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I guess I leave that to you guys.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And I've enjoyed listening to the commentary of family family,
ranking of teams and and and you know wild cards
and how interesting they are and and what led to
me jumping in which was bulletin bull pen discussion. So
thanks for that, guys. I'm I'm happy to be.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
A part of them.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
If there's a if you can sense the stress level
of the fans in the stadium and it comes through
on the television, I think that's good television. It's why
It's why the Penn State Oregon game was great television
because you could tell the intensity. It's why fantastic stress.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, it's always a good comparison when when it comes
my way and it didn't come out the way it
was supposed to, you know, because I would still be
being a sore sore winner right now had we won
that game. I feel like football Jesus didn't want us
to win because of the type of person I would
be on this show to you both.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That I mean, be the most mature.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I'm from Pittsburgh, right, but like even I was like, hey,
take Oregon in three and a half, You're like two
Orchard saw And I was like, oh, well, I mean
Notre Dame beat him so bad that Sam Pittman got
fired it's.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Like, geez, like you have as many We don't have
as many losses as Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Though I understand that.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But my season, I'm just by the end of the season,
it's gonna look exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Buddy, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Hey, don't buddy me when we're talking about Penn State.
All right, Hey buddy, you don't, buddy, We are bros.
But but don't. But you know, buddy, when my brother
used to do that to me, and that was my
older brother, I'm punch him right in his right and
is like his is uh what what is that on
the side of your your your your stomach, your ear?
What's on the side your liver? Bleak? The oblique?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Is that what? It's a liver shot? Yeah, liver shot, buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Buddy was the dismissive term that would get you going.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah that my brother would hit me with, Hey, buddy,
not pal like chill buddy, not jerko.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
My buddy, buddy, my buddy.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Car He's going to go, my buddy, buddy, my buddy.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I think, buddy, you have any loser kids actually asked
for this when they were younger. Okay, I don't have
any real friends Can I get it? Can I get
a stuffed animal that looks like a human? What a
bunch of losers? Are those cabbage patch kids?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah? Like they look like it a little bit though,
look like little Chucky's.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Because something about the way cabbage patch kids smelled.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh my goodness, really I want to sniff one right now.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Back to grown man talking and then it's like my buddy,
yeah yeah, but we we we're going forehead to forehead
on buddy, like, hey, buddy, like whatever you say, buddy,
And then when paled, when pal come out, then you
knew it was it was time to touch.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
We was going to touch gloves. You know what about chief?
If someone's like all right, chief, how do you take
that one?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I feel like Chief was like respectful, like hey Chief,
like host hoss chief. Those were like kind of like
endearing terms like you're a bad right what about you know?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
B u b bub?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Bub is kind of like indifferent.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You're not really important, but you're not really like being
slighted either, like hey bub, Like you know.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
What about watch it bub?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah? Watch it bub? Like it's not intimidating in any way.
It doesn't make you feel it doesn't incite any emotions.
Nothing comes from bub you know, nothing, but buddy, Buddy
is like kind of dismissive. It is kind of dismissive.
And if you're dismissing me, I'm gonna want to fight you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I don't know. I'm just frightful that.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I saw those skinny arms you've got. I'm willing to
fetch you. Yeah, skinny arms.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, I'm glad you set that screenshot.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I didn't realize, like the shoulder pads were massive when
you played in college.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But yes, it was like, kind of have those skinny arms. Huh.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I've always been skinny, bruh, except my belly in my face.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It's the only thing that get away from me. I
quit drinking. I'm not drinking anymore. I'm going to lose
at least twenty thirty pounds. It's also the right way. Yeah,
it's also do it the right way. I'm going to
start walking. I'm going to stop drinking. I'm going to
keep smoking, but I'm not.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Going to stop.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
There's there's probably some other people who could use that advice.
On the shot, I think we're too soon. Wherever you
guy says.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know, well, hey, you know whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You know, you got to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But I'm not doing it for that. I'm doing it
because it just makes my belly big And back to
my little ass arms.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
They work really really.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Well though, like they're they're like, I'm like Buster Douglas.
I'm not. I'm not like Bruno. Like I'm not. I'm
not like one of these yoked up boxers out here.
I got the bad body, I got the Larry Holmes body.
But but these things right here they're working muscles. Hey
Larry Holmes underrated boxer. Yeah, they're working muscles. I will
jab the hell out of somebody, you know what I mean.
(13:33):
There's some real power there too, you know, I mean
arm wrestle me. I'll show you how these little arms work.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Ah. Now, not to uh, not to deter from you know,
this discussion about violence in the world.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Now, let's get back.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
To Brady thoughts on Tribe time, Game three Tiggers, Guardians
coming up.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Electric at three etric atmosphere. Yeah, I'm uh.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Now do you have do you have any Guardians gears?
It all the Indian stuff anymore.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I don't have one thing that says Guardians on it. Look,
I was never whatever what do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, all I know is there will be enough juice
in that place to be able to get a win today.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
All right, That's all I know.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But I'm not gonna try to break down the games
because no one gives a crap a baseball guys, so
no one cares. What there is this conspiracy theory out
there is someone said to me, They're like, oh, just
how major League Baseball wanted it all game threes? And
I was like, well, okay, not all Like obviously the
Dodgers took care of business, but there's also this sense
(14:45):
of like the TV networks wanted the leagues don't care really,
like ultimately they don't care like the leagues like they
just wanted to be close games, fun games, great atmosphere,
but like it's the networks who care. The networks have
already paid for this, so they're the ones that hoping
that it gets to three games and that every series
after that goes to seven or whatever the best of
(15:07):
is so they can make back their money. That's what
it matters to. So I don't know, I just there
was like this conspiracy theory floating around there online. Tom, Like,
first off, why are you complaining it's awesome? Like these
are going to game threes, it's more intense. It's like,
how is major League Baseball catching this stray for this?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And also if you look at the matchups, Cleveland Detroit
know each other and they're in the same division. They've
been battling it out for a playoff spot for weeks now.
Boston and New York know each other, and the Cubs
and Padres have almost the identical record. It's not that
far fetched to think, oh, they might have split the
first two and it's going to go to game three
and they both want a game Like it's just like
(15:47):
they're matched up evenly. If you look at the lines,
like they're matched up virtually evenly across the board. The
Dodgers and Reds was an anomaly, Like the Mets would
have been a better matchup because they had more power.
There was more opportunity for a potential win. But like
these other games, like, yeah, it's the play it's the
best of the best, Like there's there's not as much
(16:09):
of a difference where you look at a one versus
an eight in the NBA and you're like, all right,
this is a waste of time. Like, that's that's not
what this is. And that's why the MLB postseason is
in my mind better than the NBA playoffs, and fan
boys can argue against that. They all they wanted, just
not the case.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Is the CE in the logo from the old logos
list or is it? Is it new? Is the C
new or has it been there for the entire.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Time all the Guardians.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I know that the Guardians is different, and I know
that that's new, But is it like a sneaky like
type of deal to have the C because isn't the
C still from the old logo key? Or was that
made new when they changed the Guardians. I know they
had to change the Guardians.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It looks similar same, it does look similar, but they
had I.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Think there's like two or three different seas.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You believe you're not going to find a lot you're
I think you're right. It's their way around the old
old Sea.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
The the old sea was like the top of it
was rounded, and now that the sea it's like pointed.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
It's pointed.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But that's not they didn't have that in the old
key that was created now with the Guardians.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, the old Sea was just like rounded at the
top and kind of flyting, and same thing for the bottom.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
See.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I feel like then they should use the old sea
so that you can bring back some of that old
swag man.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Like that's what I think the problem.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I mean sometimes like because you know, Washington didn't have
many you know, they didn't have a whole bunch of
different I mean the R, you know what I mean.
But you couldn't get away with the R because the
R still represented red skin.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So but you guys got a see for Cleveland, I
used that old seed, like I would have never change
the sea. Wat change the sea? Well, just keep the
sea the same.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Most of the old stuff as Chief Wahoo, which.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Was you know, the Vinta. But the sea doesn't, I know,
but the old sea doesn't.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And that gives you an opportunity to still kind of
stay connected to the past, you know what I mean,
like the old sea.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I just sent you guys a picture of the Cleveland
Browns logos. Literally, tell me what they've done different since
nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know what it is?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The face mask.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
It is the face mask.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
They literally added an extra bar on the face mask.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I think the orange color has changed a little it's
a little bit more bolder, it's a little bit more
oranger on the present day one. I personally like the
old Browns, like the forty eight, fifty eight, the fifty nine,
sixty nine. It kind of reminds me of Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Little little elf.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah it looks like but it almost looks like a
little leper kunt.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
You know, yeah, something like that. The problem is they
could Jonas would make fun of him. You know, he'd
be saying, like all sorts.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Of crazy, you know, honestly got it. Well, the first
time they brought back the elf recently, I thought it
was a girl who had just you know, thrown up
her lunch.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Like.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I didn't realize that it was an elf, And I
didn't understand the why the elf was attached to the Browns,
Like it didn't make any sense to me. And then
they rolled that. They rolled out some bull mastiff who
you know, probably lied. H he's probably dead now, but
you know.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well it's it probably lived longer than yours though, right, Yeah,
big big.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Jonas's bull mastiff was was five hundred pounds.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Why do you guys always embellish it? It was five
thirty eight all right at peak, at peak, and then
you know, we had a lion cut some weight to
uh you know, to be able to type.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So okay, yeah it's.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
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Speaker 2 (20:10):
Maybe do you still think about don't?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I have no choice. I have his pawprint tattooed on
my shoulder. I'm trying to get away from it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It's a tad bit. Almost said a slur. That's pretty aggressive. Yeah,
tell me about pressive.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's pretty well.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You did it. It's not like someone else did.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I know. I thought it was a great idea. It's awful.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
But you had two mastiffs.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah yeah, the other one you only got the okay, yeah, yeah,
the other one.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Didn't make the cut.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
The other one died early. He died at like seven
whole seven years wasn't long enough for you. It got
bloat man, look up bloat.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's brutal.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
But I'm just saying, but you didn't get the bloated
dogs uh paul print that was cut because what he
wasn't long around long enough?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know what, they give you.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Enough great memories.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I think seven years.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think I was so traumatized that I thought, uh,
when Hog turned seven, I thought, listen, I gotta get
his pawprint because he could go at any moment.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And then he lived in a We didn't even know
the name of the first one. What's the other ones?
N Well, you don't even hear.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well, you know, he had a couple of different nams.
So I was a big craig. Iron had Hayward fan.
Oh nice, So I called him Iron little thingy.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
People won't get that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That was hey man.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You know, that was when Lufa's first came out. Literally,
it was like an invention that had first been released.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Believe look at the little thingy little thingy.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, Cam Hayward's dad was a spokesman. Iron had Hayward
for Lufah's back in the day.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
No, it wasn't for Lufas, it was for soap. It
was some type of soap. He was his big ass
was in the shower taking a shower. He's like, look
at this little thinky ironhead.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah. So we were.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
We were all Ironhead fans on Pittsburgh. I love Darnett Hayward.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So yeah, it was Ironhead, but he had like different
names because some people, you know, didn't like that because
they were Raider fans of my family, so they wanted
to call them how wee after how we long? You know,
there's just there was, you know. But that was probably
why he got.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Out of earth.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It was like a racial divide over what to call
the percent.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, that's and that's that's why he got out early.
It is like I can't handle this anymore. I'll just
make my stomach flip the bloat, yeah, and get out
of it.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Over here.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Too indecisive, these people are. Here's where you can make
decisions easy.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Though at the Home Deepot have more feelings towards towards
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(22:57):
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another edition of in case you missed it, coming up
here in about fifteen minutes from now. Speaking of Cleveland,
(24:43):
speaking of the Browns, they made a decision yesterday at quarterback,
Joe Flacco has been benched. Dylan Gabriel is going to
be the starter, with Joe Flacco being number two on
the depth chart and Shadoor Sanders remaining number three, and
so Kevin Stefanski, the head coach, discussed the decision into
(25:05):
giving Dylan Gabriel the opportunity and also uh was asked
about why Shador didn't move further up the depth chart.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
From the second he's been here. He's been working very hard,
very intelligent young man. He's he's done a nice job
throughout practice this whole season. He's been learning how to
get yourself ready and understand the rhythm of an NFL
week and what that looks like as a backup. And
obviously now feel like he's ready, that's going as a starter.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And they're talking about Dylan Gabriel right there.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, he's talking about Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Who do you think he was talking about?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, I was just making sure that the audience out
there understood that because it's like, wait.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I know you're trying to it's a social at all.
It's a social.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
What is the biggest hitlines? The biggest hitline when you
type in Browns, the first thing you should see come up.
ESPN pundits give Shador Sanders advice. Joe Flacco blindsided by
benching Dylan Gabriel, Schador Sanders facing questions God full full
(26:15):
mind Brown's quarterback tiers. Evaluating forty one starters from Cleveland
since ninety nine, two out of the foreheadlines that pop
up Q have Shador Sanders in them.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And we're talking.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I'm not trying to hype it up. I'm just telling
you that this is a conversation that brings in Shador
Sanders every single time I was. I asked the question
because I felt like I got it on the points
I finished.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
We'll talk about why we're talking about him today because
we have sound. We have Shador's reaction to this news,
and that's why we're talking about it today. We're not
talking about it for any other reason other than what
he did yesterday in reaction to all this.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Is that fair? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, and the sound of Shador from yesterday.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Let's hear it, well, can we hear him? Yeah, he's
a real question.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, he didn't. He didn't say anything, uh exactly. Kevin
Stefanski was asked about why Shador was not named the
the backup, and it sounded like this was there along
with changing to tilling.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Was there any conversation at all about that he should
have watch number two and making.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Sure Yeah, my focus is on this game. Jose backup.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, so shador no comment, turned into a mime, you know,
played along with the media.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
A member of the Browns.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Media relations team pulled him away afterwards and there was no.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Co so just described what he did because I don't
think people understood the context. He the door, stood there
in front of the media and they asked him questions
and he moved his mouth, but he made no words
came out.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And he did this for what five minutes, four minutes
whatever it was?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Uh, yeah it was. It was a little while.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, it got to the point where and I had
a couple media people reach out and their comments were literally,
that was the oddest. That was the weirdest thing I've
ever experienced covering the Browns. And these are people who've
covered it for a long time. And I said to myself, like,
they've seen a lot of things like that's that's saying something.
(28:28):
But supposedly this was in response to something that was
said on ESPN by someone who's taken a lot of
uh a lot of hot takes so far this year.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Do we have this sound for Rex Ryan?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
An outstanding coach, all right, but why the hell isn't
he putting should or Sanders. We're all waiting to see
this Shad or Sanders be the guy or Gabriel whatever.
Something's missing, something's missing with this kid. This kid talks,
he runs his mouth like he's a I could be
a starting quarterback with his arms crossed like this. Get
your ass in the front row and study and do
(29:01):
all that. If I know, the whole league, nos quld
be in an embarrassment that way. You got the talent
to be the quarterback, you should be you should be
embarrassed that you're not the quarterback now.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yeah, So supposedly this is why he didn't say anything,
and this is why he did what he did, which
was just incredibly odd.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Like I don't even know what to make of that.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It comes off as very immature as a response, even
if it was to Rex Ryan.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Kind of bizarre.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I mean, I've never seen a player handle things like
that before.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
There's kind of cringey, kind of all that my old
thing on.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Day get out a dude in Cleveland reporter didn't he
like bathing? And after they won? That was in Cleveland
at last.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Oh that was Tim Tim McCarver. Yeah, the yeah, the broadcaster.
I I don't I look at it like this, if
should or obviously once would love to.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Be the starter.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
He would love to be the guy that is starting
for the Browns this weekend and moving forward. And my
old thought on it, just in general NFL or anything,
if you want the job and you don't have the job,
then your job is to show why you should be
the guy who does. And he's done everything the opposite
(30:26):
to where Kevin Stefanski's having to answer questions about, hey,
you know, Shador says he's ready to start, It's okay, Well,
I think all of our young guys feel like they're
ready to start, and he turns into a mime yesterday
when there's a decision made at quarterback. The whole thing's
just odd And I don't know why. How could you
think that that would get you closer to an opportunity
(30:48):
to be somebody that they trust. And maybe this is
part of the reason why some of the stuff came
out in the draft. Why Brian Daball was like yeah,
like he wasn't prepared and then he got upset when
I called him out because you know, he didn't know
certain things, and like all these stories start to add up,
and you look at it and go, why would they
Why would Kevin Stefanski, whose job might be on the line,
(31:10):
trust his fate with the Browns on somebody who you know,
turns into a mind when people ask him about the
quarterback situation there for five minutes or whatever. It was
just strange.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Man oh man, go ahead, Q, you want it, you
have it.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I mean, well, I've already said my part. I mean,
like I said, I've never seen anything.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Like this before. And this isn't like an exclusive thing
to the Browns.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I just I think it's an incredibly immature way of
handling the media, and for as medias savvy as he
is and the family is for that matter. You know,
you know he's been taught and raised different and so's
it's one of those moments where you know he like
he's a rookie, he's gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
This to me is a mistake.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It's not how you you know, handle criticism from Rex Ryan.
And the other thing is is like he's always putting
out this like I don't live listen to the critics,
sim I don't listen to any of that. I don't
be so well, yeah, you do, cause you just did
one of the most bizarre things we have ever seen
as now a professional athlete in the NFL, and it's
only creating more stir like not for what you're doing
(32:15):
in practice or playing. Like one of the things that
we heard about Jackson Dart with the Giants organization and
Breer said this, And I had reached out to Dable
and talked to some of the people in the organization
and this is like earlier on in camp, and they're like, yeah,
we feel like this thing is like he's right, like
more ready than we thought, Like he's more ready to
take over and be the guy than we thought. But
(32:37):
we're gonna kind of stick with the plan and see
how this thing goes. And so when you see Jackson
Dart succeed and they even even light the world on fire,
but they gotta win, then that was a change. And
you watch how he handles the press, you watch how
he handles everything. You're like, Okay, that guy seems like
he's ready for it. Does this make anyone feel like
Shade or Sanders is ready to take over the rains
be the starting quarterback? Like it leaves me to think
(32:59):
that if you're not gonna listen to a guy like
Rex Ryan, who's probably hearing from people inside the Browns
organization because there's always leaks there that whatever he's doing
or whatever they've seen, you know, seen heard that he's
not ready. Like he's trying to give a little bit
of advice here, Like I know it comes off as
(33:21):
him being critical or you know, providing criticism, but the
reality is he's trying to get you to be the
guy that Cleveland's hoping you'll be.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
You say you are. I think a lot of people
are hoping you'll be.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
And so if you if you don't want to, you know,
listen to that and take that as like, all right,
maybe I need to look in the mirror. Maybe I'm
not doing something the right way. But instead that's your response,
I don't know like that, That to me leads me
to think that what he does get the play and
things don't go, well, who do you think he's gonna blame?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Then?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Who do you think he's gonna point the finger at?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
He's said Rex Ryan.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
If I know everyone knows that's a damning comment like
that is a that is something to really if I
wish the door, I wouldn't be handling it that way,
I'd be sitting there and I'd be thinking about it, like, man,
I gotta make sure I have a job. You know
what third string quarterbacks represent, you know what third string
anything represents. You're actually closer to being out the door
(34:24):
than you are in the door. Let's just be clear here, Like,
that's that's a real You are the most expendable player
on a roster outside of a practice squad player, which
some would say third string is a.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Practice squad player.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Like that's that's the reality of the position. But then
now what jumped out at me is again, as the
question was asked and Stefanski said, I'm concentrating on this game,
you did not because you probably at one in three
you would probably lease Joe Flacco if you felt like
(35:03):
Shador Sanders was a legitimate option to go to as
a player, and you would elevate him to back up.
You did not elevate him to back up. You kept
him at third string while elevating your backup to starter.
And he's a rookie. So if you just if you
take the naming rights of this out of the equation
(35:26):
and you just look at this at at face value,
there again, I was surprised he made the team. I
really was, because I didn't think that they would carry
all three of them, and being a fifth round draft pick,
I just I know, you get guaranteed money or you
get a contract out of the situation, but I just
(35:46):
didn't think he'd make the roster. As you move forward
and you see a team that is failing, and a
failing team isn't taking a more serious look and approach
to how you move up and elevate into the roster
(36:09):
and how that may play out. I think that that
you're now making book. If I'm around the league, this
is not more of a personal, you know, opinion. I
think it's more of a general assumption and opinion as
it would apply to other teams, other gms. If I'm
looking at how this is playing out in Cleveland, he
(36:31):
becomes a radio active player. And when you look at
when you look at how it all played out in
the draft, and how the narratives were so strong towards Shador,
and how the whole draft was driven by Shador and
(36:53):
all of these storylines that continue to come out. The
worst thing that Shador Sanders could ever do is whether
for right or for wrong, whether I'm gonna be me,
and I'm i'm aa for right or for wrong. The
worst thing you could ever do is prove any critics
right in terms of how you handle things. That's the
(37:15):
worst thing that could happen, because now who's gonna want
to bring that type of player into into their facility.
I just don't I don't know. I don't know that
this works out the way that Shador Sanders wants it
to work out. If there isn't a come to Jesus moment.
The come to Jesus moment is you are not Deon Sanders.
(37:38):
You are not prime time, your Shadoor, your shadoor b Chador.
Do what you need to do and hope that those
those efforts are good enough, because even when you're good enough,
the numbers game says that a lot of times you're
not even gonna get that opportunity that you thought or
hoped you would get. So I think he's in a
(37:59):
tough situation here, and maturity, immaturity, whatever you want to
call it, it could cost him here. And that would
be said if his actions off off of the field
would actually cost him an opportunity on it.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, but I think that depends though speaking of depends depending.
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Speaker 1 (39:28):
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Coop, Hey, what's happening, guys? Oh, have a little bit
more excitement to be with us? God?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Who what up?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
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Speaker 6 (39:45):
Well, I don't know if you guys saw this, but
former All Pro defensive back is Even Howard abruptly retired
a couple of days after playing the Los Angeles Rams. Now,
I'm I'm not as old as you, guys, but you know,
I've been watching the NFL for a while. The first
I might remember anything like this happening was Vonte Davis
a while back. But a halftime yes, yeah, but I mean,
(40:08):
did was that like other than for injury? Did people
just like retire in the middle of a season that
didn't really happen back in the day?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Right, No, it's not that like medically reason but yeah,
just I'm just I'm done.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Like it's not very comtimes, you know when you know right.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Yeah he said, he just said, just wants to spend
more time with his family. He's tired of putting football first.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
You got no win to hold them? Good for him, No,
when fold them enjoy retirement. He'll be out once it
gets home. Twenty four hours a day. I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
So you know it wasn't so bad. Do I still
have that contract.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I'll be back on Monday, full weekend to figure it
out
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