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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up on this Monday edition. It's a football recap Monday,
and of course we're talking football. It was the Aaron
Rodgers Reunion Bowl in Pittsburgh and did not go the
way of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Green Bay dominant in the
second half. What it means moving forward? Also, what does
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it mean moving forward for the Indianapolis Colts? Are they
for real? Sure seem like it and they might have
the MVP playing running back on their team right now,
if that's even possible. We're also going to have a
conversation about LSU firing Brian Kelly, why it's not that
much of a surprise, but what it means for the
entire college football landscape moving forward. We've got a feel
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good story with the New York Jets during a very
difficult day. We've got the Cincinnati Bengals coming up short,
the Baltimore Ravens exposing a flawed Bears team and maybe
saving their season. Plus Pete Prisco's gonna stop by. We've
got the leftovers. We've got the FSRIR starring a beaver
and it's all yours coming up now here, Two Pros
and a cup of Joe on a Monday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
It last a week right after Halloween. This is this
Bad Boys going away for good.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's like next week.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
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Speaker 3 (01:41):
Your football recap Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
We appreciate you doing so as we take you all
the way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific.
How we feel in here on this Monday morning?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Good morning, Good morning, guys. How's everybody feeling.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I have never heard this song? No, You're too young
for the Lost Boys. That's why I don't think you're
too young for I'm just in a better music than this.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You you remember the movie Lost Boys? You can't say
you remember? Yeah, I'm about to say you can't because
this is the song like You're too young Qude, That's
all like sit this one out, that's all keeper Sutherland.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Set this one out, brou It's all right. You know
it's an old movie.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, how would you say of me it's a good song?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Though it's a good song?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Because it made the movie and the movie was a
good movie. I picked it, which I thought the movie
like not.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Out of moldor the movie is kind of it's dumb,
but it's like it's like but it was a part
of my childhood.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It's like vampires on the Beach.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean, it was a cool little dip.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I don't know why. It was a cool movie, but
everybody liked it. And that song made the movie. Like
that song right there, like that made the movie.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It'll be out by next Monday. Yeah, it's got a
it's got a five day shelf.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Leave it in the eighties. Yeah, it's it's not it's
not really anything that's gonna get you fired up. Accuse it.
I don't really have vaguely like yeah, you aren't even air.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Look you see y'all see me flexing all y'all. Right,
now I'm a seventies baby goad. Dang you no, well,
uh speaking of the Lost Boys film. Yeah, I mean,
does it have a key for Sutherland in it? Sutherland Sutherland.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I didn't even know when that movie came out. It
had to be like eighty seven, yeah, something like.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, eighty seven. Eah, yeah, I was alive for that.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What were you doing?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, probably trying to.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Walk go milk.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
No More has not a good review on a Rotten
It's not a good movie good.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It's not a good song. But everybody loved it. Oh no, man,
everybody like that movie.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's why I was really hesitant about even wanting to
put it in. And I was like, you know what,
it's Halloween five days and then it's out and then
after that you never hear it again.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, it's not a good song and the movie's.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Not many maybe because that was back when like home
box Office really was home box office like stuff like that,
Like you were limited to what they were releasing on
HBO and sometimes Cinemax, but really back then it was
all about HBO. So when they you know, when a
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movie would come out, it's like, I mean, I used
to watch The Hobbit. I used to watch UH and
it wasn't called the Hobbit, it was called UH. Because
they had proto in it or what was it?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Lord?
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But was that the first? Was that original one with
with it?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Was?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It was the it was it was a cartoon like
there was so many Willow. Come on, man, Willow Willow.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
You know I met him. I'll tell that story. I
met him? You met Willow? Fanboyed out?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I totally geeked out in the middle of a restaurant
as big as he looks, Damn as big as he looks.
Freaked out. He knew who I was. We were in
an Italian restaurant in Jersey. We were going to play
the Giants. I freaked out because I met the the
I met Willow, crazy crazy man and that was a
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dumb movie, but we loved it.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, Jordan of the Mredumb.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Bro, you watched those guys zilla movies. Nowadays, it's so like,
what were we doing?
Speaker 8 (05:46):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What you had to go outside and play cause you
didn't have what these these kids have today. I mean,
technology is so crazy. You could be a part of
the movie these days. Far I'm kidding, Sorr them them movies.
Back then, you had to get out and go out
and play because it wasn't nothing good enough to keep
you in the house, not the video.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Games, not the movies. The music was better depending on
what you were listening to.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, I mean, I'm sure people probably turned off a
lot of NFL games yesterday.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I know you did.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It was not good, Like it just wasn't good. The
big night cap was how did we do? How did
we do on our picks? I don't know. I don't
want to look not great.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Let me go through it real quick.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
By the way, LeVar LeVar calls last night, because who
did I have in the Steelers?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
My god, I was root for the Steelers and I
was like, who you had?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Y Well, that was the only one LeVar got that
besides Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So yeah, that was the only one besides So I
got more than one.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You're two and three?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
All right, all right, all right, I'll take that. What
were y'all?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I was two and three? Jonas is one in three.
What killed me was the the money line pick for
the Steelers last night, who at one point it looked like,
all right, this is just gonna run all over them,
and then they just kind.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Of you know what happened in the second hand, they
walked them down.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I'll be honest with you when you looked at the
speed and like talent of the Packers versus Pittsburgh, that
just it feels like that like old strong man. But
you're like, yeah, they can't really threaten you, like if
they can't physically maul you with the extra tackle that
plays tight end and Darnell Washington and you know Ben
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Skronik out there and DK Metcalf where they just try
to like abuse you with their size. They can't really
match up, like they have a hard time offensively like
creating many big plays. And there was the early catch
by Roman Wilson the sideline. I was nice, but I
mean that came off of Rogers having time to scramble.
And other than that, he seemed to very very intentive
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getting the ball out of his hand quick like he
don't want anyone to touch him. And every single play
like you know, again, Migah Parsons is gonna have that
sort of impact. But it was almost over the top
where they they were not ever trying to just have
Rogers draw back and send five guys out on the
route like there was always a chip, there was always
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a nudge or something on the edge, which it's fine,
it's great, but you're not gonna get that guy out
in the route concept. And if he doesn't get on
the route concept, if it's zone coverage, he's not going
to influence a defender to move out of a window.
So there was nowhere to throw anywhere down the field.
Then they just kept throwing these flats, throwing these like
you know, quick passes to you know short like around
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the line of scrimmage. That's just not gonna win you
football games.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They took that quartermout muscle car out there with that
that foreign, that Lamborghini, and they opened it up and
that that quarter mout. Once you got past that quarter mout,
I just didn't have it.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I had to thick tires on the back like that
the cass tongue. But it ain't had that tire. It
ain't had that top end speed. And they had that
top in speed. K Lee where they down at nine
and a half?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Was it nine?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Were they down?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
What was the score?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I half?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Times? It was like it was a game, sixteen seven,
sixteen seven, Yeah, there was a game, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Everything everything was set up man and then maybe that
field goal. Then after that it was just they just walked.
Who's the tight end Tucker Craft getting off, he was
getting off.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Getting off. Yeah, it did, it did.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
They got so much speed on the outside, like with
Watson back to and like even guys like Hell like
Golden really didn't have like a big impact. But they're
just threatened by all the speed they've got, you know,
Dobbs and Wilson or excuse me, Dobbs in the uh,
who's the other they've got. He just got a bunch
of guys who can run. Man, it's crazy. They look
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pretty good. And their defense looks they look like they
are chippy is all get out, like they just it's
a good looking defense.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Last night was the first game all year they had
allowed a first half touchdown. Their defense has been great.
Mic is starting to find he's.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Starting to find. Yeah, he's starting to integrate. You could
tell he's not looking as like thumb out, thumb on
the hand, or or out of shape like they were
further along with him. Maybe his back is fully you know,
held up and recovered. But he looks I mean, I
knew he was himself that that one play where he
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almost stripped him. He didn't get there, but he almost
got there. If you look at his closing speed on
that play. I was like, God, dang, he's like he's comfortable.
Now that's trouble because bad boys.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
They didn't allow us sack either, Like the offensive line
for green Baby didn't allow T. J. Watts to have
this big of an impact. I mean he was close. Yeah,
but maybe maybe that's more of like an indictment on
kind of where that pass rush is at. You know,
high Smith, what everyone saw. They kind of had a pressure,
but it wasn't It wasn't like what you saw from
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the Packers, that's for sure. So credit the offensive live
of the Packers too.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I felt like they had a good game plan. They
was getting that ball out quick. And another thing that
I've been paying attention to that I'm like, I feel like,
really some type of way about is this this four
to two five defense? Oh yeah, I really feel nickel.
I mean, if you want to call it that, yeah,
I mean it's nickel. It is a nickel defense. It's
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a nickel defense. But l but if it's a base defense,
I'm gonna just.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Call it back. I'm gonna call it by its numbers.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You got four d linemen, you got two backers, and
you got five defensive backs. It might be the most
ridiculously flagrantly dumb ass defense I've ever seen created as
a base standard defense period.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Point blank dime is a six defensive backs, okay, are right?
Bottom line is before one six bottom line.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Is with that set, with that set because because my
whole idea is a nickel. Just so we're clear from
a defensive player with the numbers, you're giving the numbers,
but that that nickel comes in and replaces the linebacker
but lines up as a linebacker. They're in coverage as
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a linebacker, and maybe they might need him. It's a
guy that can play like both the run and be
able to play the pass, but better against the pass
than they are against the run. In general, that's when
they pull that linebacker off. They don't bring that secondary
guy up. They don't bring that extra guy up. It's
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just two backers and everybody is getting ran on. Everybody's
getting ran on, and it's the quarterbacks that are doing it.
For the most part, it's the quarterbacks that are accessing
the second level of these defenses because you only got
two linebackers. Everybody else is deployed and coverage. What if
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we're in pass if it's a passing down.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I get it. I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
What was like really upsetting me because Saturday was it
was like it was a lot for me because I've
been living this watching how Penn State's defense has been playing.
But then I'm like paying really really close attention to
It's like, man, there's a whole bunch. It's like a
copycat lead. It's like, Okay, if you're gonna go walk
out and jump off the bridge and you know you're
jumping to your sure death, y'all just gonna keep going,
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Just keep going, just keep going. Everybody's running this this,
this four to two, four to two, Just keep going,
keep going again, Nickel, it's four to two two front.
You got six guys in the box. It's b as
because you can't stop defense.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
That's all it is, dude. There everyone's because everyone's playing
more three wide receiver sets, or if they're playing like
a two tight end set, it's the one tight ends
essentially a pass catching tight end.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It is stupid, that's all it is. It's stupid. You
have removed the you've removed the middle backer. You you've
removed them.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You think that's dumb. You should see the three three five.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, I have ever seen the three three five. It's
in that wild concept.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's very it's very upsetting.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Also forefront, what's taking place with defenses playing in a
passing scheme on first down and on rundowns.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It is ridiculous and and and it's just further.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Some teams play what's called big nickel, so they play
a safety in that position or a nickelback that they
feel confident in that can the run as well as cover.
So we get that sometimes, but they're not doing that.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
The alignments are not conducive to saying that if you're
putting a guy up there to stop the run, they
only have two backers in the box.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, the backers don't matter. It matters about covering the gaps.
And that's where if you look at what a lot
of defenses are doing right there, they'll actually try to
play a gap or they'll try to have some of
the guys or someone inside two gap. And that's actually
what makes it more difficult, is they're trying to steal
a gap. And in college, if that's your complaint, it
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really is born out of the fact that RPOs are
almost cheating at that level because linemen can get down
the field three yards, which imagine if you are a
linebacker or a player they're putting in a run pass conflict.
I mean, think about a basketball hoop, right, it's ten
feet tall, So let's just look at that laid down
on a field, I mean nine feet. A alignment can
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can literally come out like it's run and block like
it's run. And yet you've got to make the determination
are you going to play the run of the pass?
So imagine that and how difficult that is to be
able to read as a defender. And so you're putting
these players in a run pass conflict. So what defensive
coordinators do is they say, well, there's always a defensive
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player assigned to a gap. However, we're not gonna do that,
or we're gonna say, this guy's got these two gaps,
and they're going to essentially try to steal a gap
with the way they go about trying to play the
run because it's too difficult to have some of these
formations where you're removing what would have been a backer,
but now a nickelback out into space and he's going
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to play the run.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And the pass.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It's it's too difficult.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's the place that's the problem. It's replaced. They're not
too gap. They're telling them they are. They are telling
these guys to get the gap that they can get
so if they get reached.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you what I know. I'm
not telling you what I think. I'm telling you what
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
It's not it's not too gapping. It's not they're evolving
from too gapping.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
They're not everybody they are.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
They do. People do do it differently.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
There are guys that play a gap and a half.
There are teams like Indiana, you know what they play.
None of it re replace. It's not even read replaced.
They just try to get up field and penetrate, and
the backers are are basically filling off of.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
That that's re replaced. Q. If it's re replaced, that's
not what.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
They call it. If you want to call their D
line coach, we can literally have.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
A I don't need to call their D coach. I'm qualified.
I don't need that. I'm qualified.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I'm actually there every Saturday. I call games on weekends.
That's beautiful. Debate all you'd like, we can we can
I know that you're doing it on Saturdays and Sundays.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
A lot player A lot of what I want to
do it. I know a lot of what I want
to do. That's what i'd be doing. I do that
every day. I'm doing that right now on the radio
with all asses. How about that?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I was telling people talk about that gap integrity. Yeah,
gap de's fit.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Them in your.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
I'm upset, so y'all better leave me alone because they're
turning the linebackers position into the running backs position of
on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't like it. The plays to be made by
the second.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Day complement like Edgren Cooper I thought played really well
last night, Like Kway what like I thought those guys
actually did a really job in coverage and like in space.
Even though I don't, I don't like it because because
really the truth is it's look, you're kind of being
replaced by a nickelback, but also you're being replaced by
guys who are more versus who can play on the edge. Again,
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You're in general you're being replaced by guys who are
just able to either do either pass, rush or cover.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's correct. I mean, that is correct.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I just I don't like the fact that you've removed
the middle backer and you've you've made it where you
have two backers that are basically splitting the difference in
the middle of the field is wide open, and those
two backers have to be able to read one more position.
Like you said, they're trying to steal a position on
the field, like you are trying to cover the run,
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like you have three backers and you only have two,
and it's leaving it. When you're playing eleven on eleven football,
what happens is is if you get some sort of
a quarterback that has any type of athletic ability at all,
once you're doing once once these linemen are getting up field,
like you said that r PO, because that's what a
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lot of them are doing. They're doing these these these
run pass reads. They're they're stepping up, they're stepping up
to play to run. But there's some of these guys
are just going cause it's like okay, I'm I'm reading run.
They're running up the backs of the defensive line and
they're not even running up the backs or trying to
get into a guy.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They're running into the back.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Because they're guessing wrong on where they're supposed to go
and where they're supposed to They're supposed to fit off
of where the defensive tackle is. So if that defensive
tackle gets reached, then you got to fill inside of him,
and then that other backer has to be able to
fill over top or the secondary has to come down
and they got to clean it up. That's third level running.
That's you're talking about third level tackling. Already third level
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tackling because you've removed one guy I can can make
the difference in the defense, and the way I see it,
it's the middle backer. Even though the one backer has
the same responsibilities as the middle backer.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They have to play off of number three and and
sit in that hole and and read the crossers and
all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But the bottom line is is all you gotta do
is widen out your defense. All you got to do
is send guys out. They got to widen out. You're
removing the backers based off of formation, and you're not
covering the center of the field, and you're daring them
the run. And they're doing it on both on both levels,
on college and in the pros. They're accessing the middle
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of the field, and I think it's bull crap. I
hate where I hate the way some of these defenses
are playing out. I don't like the way it looks
when you watch it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Maybe I'm old school, maybe I'm a fossil, but to me,
you're playing the pass. And I know it's a pass
first league. Now I get that. I get it's a
pass first league, but play to run. Every team that
you see having success, they can run the ball. Every
team that is having success can run the ball effectively.
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Why are you playing a pass defense on rundowns? Stop it,
cut that ass out, cut it out. It's ridiculous your
defensive coordinator. That doesn't mean that you're good. Stop running
that defense all first down.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Stop. That's all I gotta say about it. Man, I'm
not happy about it at all.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, I think that depends you know, you look at like,
for example, the run game of the Packers last night,
that was about three point three point six yards per time,
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for the tire rack play of the day under center Jones.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
On first down, they give it to Taylor left side.
He's the twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Five thirty thirty five down the sideline, forty fifty yard
line score going tyre upping the.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
Sideline, beat down, chant ted touch down. Chonathan Taylor takes
it eighty yards to the house, tight rupping that left sideline.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
No problem for the great running back.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Going right now, it's the longest ruts this season for
the Colts and for Taylor.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
The Colts now lead twenty three seven.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
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buying should be. Uh, he's pretty much got Offensive Player
of the Year wrapped up at this point. I would
(25:06):
say MVP, but they don't give that to running backs anymore.
So Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, yeah, they was jocking him yesterday.
That's for certain.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
It's the best team in the league right now. It's
crazy to say they're up there. Yeah, look very good.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I mean when we say best team, I mean, I
know they're doing the best, but they're like the number
one overall team, right I don't know that that makes
them the I mean, obviously they're the best team statistic,
I mean by by category of wins and losses, but
are they the best team right now? Like, can they
stand up against Buffalo or Kansas City? Can can they win,
(25:48):
win those games.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
They run the ball, they've gotten really good quarterback play.
They seem like they fit all the criteria and if
we're being honest, they should be undefeated. That game they
lost was against the Rams. That was when you know,
the dude dropped the ball Ady Mitchell before he crossed
the goal line. There's another holding call that wiped out
a Jonathan Taylor long run. So yeah, you were saying,
(26:12):
you know, teams, you know it's a pass first league now,
but Jonathan Taylor has been fantastic, so overwhelming favorite to
win Offensive Player of the Year right now.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I'm just saying, and I'm I think that they're they're
a fine team, and they're showing that they can play
at a high level and they're doing well. But I mean,
outside of the Chargers, do they have a signature win?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Uh Denver? They should have lost that game. I mean,
and that's well, what what week is that? But what
week is that? I mean, that was the leverage? That
was that ridiculous leverage call? What week was this?
Speaker 8 (26:53):
What week was ridiculous? It's a rule, dude, it was
it was it was a it was a week call.
It wasn't really I just I just feel like the
way they had them really beat I just I just
don't know that. I don't I don't know if the
Colts are are fools, gold or not.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
They look good. Their record says they're good, but best
team in the league. I'm not ready to say best
team in the league, even though they look good. Jonathan
Taylor runs for three yesterday. I get all that he's
having a great year. Is Daniel Jones even in consideration
for comeback Player of the Year, because I don't even
know what the hell the rules on that is anymore
(27:34):
like back player of the year, Like, okay, you went
there what last year? Well, as we've learned, when a
guy almost dies on the field, uh, that mean he's
gonna win? Dang. So I just I just don't understand which,
like what definition applies to comeback player?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
All right, So, speaking of that comeback player of the year,
who would you guys say right now on DraftKings is
the favorite for coming back to the I guarantee you
guys will not get this because I don't.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I'm not going to try Joe Shador Sanders comeback Player
of the Year favorite right now in the NFL. According
to the DraftKings, Dak Prescott didn't he play last year?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, okay, I mean he was banged up a little bit. Yeah,
he was banged up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
But I mean we're gonna I mean Daniel Jones is
I mean he didn't play much last year.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That's what I'm saying. But was he what was he?
Did he go to the Colts last year or was
this his first year we went to Minnesota?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, See, I almost feel like this should be comeback Like,
isn't that what happened with the one quarterback that guy
comeback Player of the year. He went to a different team.
He was playing, but he went to a different team
played well, And the one comeback Player of the year
was like a quarterback when.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Flacco won it, he was he was he had wasn't
playing at all and they brought him in.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And okay, that's different if he wasn't playing at all. Yeah,
there was one where he was playing and he came back,
he went to a different team and one comeback Player
of the Year, Christian McCaffrey's second on that list, And
that would make a little bit more sense to me
than maybe Dak Prestot. Was he out for the season
last year, McCaffrey, I mean he missed a lot of.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Pretty much, Yeah, he missed a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I just don't understand comeback player of the Year. I
don't understand like the parameters of it, where it starts,
where it is.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I don't think anyone does. Yeah, I don't know. It's
a mystery. No one really understands.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, I just I just I'm curious as to what
the Colts will do as as this season, you know,
goes on. Like they have a manageable they have a
manageable a bad division.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Let's just call what it is. Everyone looks at them
as lesser because they plan a bad division, and so
we say their schedules manageable. But dude, they do they
beat and by the way, like they're not really allowing
it to be close. Like let's compare this to the
college ranks. Okay, like there's another team in the state
of Indiana or Indiana who seems to get this like
(30:12):
same flack where they're like, well, they don't really play well,
like they beat the crap out of the teams they
play like at some point and this is the NFL,
like these guys are all being paid and like they're
still absolutely demolishing everyone that gets in their way for
the most part. Now, again, Broncos game was closed. There's
a few close games in there. But like if you're
gonna like, well, what they're doing against the bad teams,
(30:33):
they beat the crap out of them. I think they're
a really good football team. Like I think we're all
waiting for like that.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
But are they the best right now?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yes, Like it's hard to say that because their quarterbacks
not Josh Allen, It's not Patrick Mahomes or Lamarn Jackson.
I get that, but Daniel Jones is playing really well.
And to Jonas's point, they've got potentially the offensive player
of the year. They have an offensive line that's played good.
They've got the defense that under lou Anarumo is like
taking its next step and really come around. They're they're
(31:05):
a good football team. Like they are the best right
now in the league. You gotta give them credit for
who they've been, what they've done all right, you saw
them and like Coop says, like, oh that Denver should
have won that, dude, they did that.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Denver's a good football team. Yeah, Like that's a good
one to throw up the hooks. Throw up the hooks,
throw the hooks up. They shouldn't have beat.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Us, Brady. You saw the Colts up close and personal.
Is this staying power?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Is this?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yes, that's a team that's going to be around for them,
like in the playoffs. Yea, to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I know that trajectory is pretty obvious. The way they're playing.
I don't see them falling off of a cliff and
missing the playoffs. Do they have that ability to sustain
in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yes, they can run, they can throw, they have a
quarterback who can take off make big plays. Like everyone's
just hesitating because again it's it's it's a little bit
about Daniel Jones to me, and they don't I don't
know if they believe in him or not.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Think that's the biggest question mark and can we believe that?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
But the people want to see them against like better
teams and be able to beat those teams. Well, guess
what you got Pittsburgh. I believe next week right at Pittsburgh,
and then in a few weeks I believe if they
get to buy then they go to Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's what I'm saying I want to see and listen.
I'm not saying I'm I'm prepared to say that there's
fools goal as a team if they lose to those teams.
I'm not saying that either. I'm just saying I don't
know if they had a real signature like the early
the early win against the Broncos, but that's early. I'm saying,
(32:43):
now that we're into the swing of the season, who
have they who have they beaten?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
That is of note. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Like that to me, And again, I'm not I'm not
going to jump out here and be like, oh, they
told told you they stink like they couldn't be like
this team. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I'm not prepared to say that either. I would just
be more. I probably would be more. I guess.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Expecting that they they stumble against one of those types
of teams. I will say this, whatever it is they
do against like a team like the Chiefs, that's gonna
tell me a lot. Because if you're dominating, you're winning
by double you know, two possession games against these these
lesser teams, which that is what they are. What does
it look like when you get up against a real
(33:33):
like a real heavyweight, Like do your punches do they
hit the same?
Speaker 9 (33:37):
Like?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Do they land the same? Are your body blows? Are
your are your big shots?
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Are?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Are they Are they really what we thought they were?
Or are you you know, are you now in the
big pond playing with the big fish? And it doesn't
work the same way.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Have you guys seen Jonathan Taylor's touchdown celebration the like
stutter stutter man? He comes to like not a dead
stop obviously, but he slows down at a rapid pace
to throw that stutter on And I'm like, dude.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Whether that's people still trying to tackle, that's it's so disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
It is so dope. Well but I'm just like, man,
is he gonna like pull something or no something? I
don't know. He's he's in a dead sprint and all
of a sudden, you.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Know, that's kind of it's kind of fly. It is,
it's really kind of fly. Like if I tried to
do that, my knee would explode. He you know what
upsets me by the way shooting at you don't see
what I'm shooting at.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
That's a three What you don't see what I'm shooting at?
You you're blind.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Broh, No, you can't see bro anyway. Anyway, what was
I saying, You're stupid?
Speaker 9 (34:49):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah? Yeah, this is the celebration. You know, you like
the celebration.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
This is why I'm upset about sa Quan still to
this day. You see how quickly it can. And Saquan
had a good little little game yesterday. No, he's as
growing as now. Sore, Like he's a little sore.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
From year to year, especially at that position, you're never
gonna he's never gonna have anywhere near.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Close to that type of season ever. Again, I know people.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Wanted to be positive and say, oh my goodness, he
could do this every single year. He can have that
type of success. That's so great what he did. He
was such a team player. Da dad this that, and
the other is Jonathan Taylor, Like I know he got
to to his yard is the third quickest or something
like that. There was some stat that they were saying,
but is he having a better year than what Saquan
(35:42):
was having last year?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Let me do I feel like Quon was having a
his I mean, I know he was.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Having a historical, historical year in terms of being able
to track down Eric Dickerson's you know, single season Russian
record is is Jonathan Taylor on any type of trajectory
like that with what he's doing?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Is it touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Is it yards? You know, total yards? What it like
our rush yards?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
What like?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Is he doing anything that special? Because I'm not I'm
not up on it to that that degree.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I think he's got twelve touchdowns so far this year,
he's got close to a thousand.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I think he's you know, at like eight fifty.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And yet we're talking about him for MVP for the league. Well,
offensive Player of the Year. He's not gonna win MVP.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Okay, Offensive Player the Year. Okay, I about to say it's.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Not a running back award anymore. But if Sakwon Barkley
gets that record, he gets in MVP the league. Yeah,
and he's never going to come close to that ever again.
So you could have knocked out the final week like
he could have played. He quit, well, they made him
sit down, they made him sit down. I just think
(36:53):
he should have got I'm going to forever as long
as we do this show, when there's a comparable that
comes up at that position, I'm going I always wonder
why they did not go after that record. I get, oh,
we're trying to prepare for the Super Bowl. I get
all that. Let's rest all of our guys. I get
all that, and then get him to get him to
the record as quickly as you can and get him
(37:13):
out of there. But you're never going to get that
close to that record again if it's Sakwon Barkley. And
that stinks that that you took that man's unselfish nature, selfless,
selfless approach to what he does, and you used it
against him, and now he'll never come close to that
record again.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
And he could have got MVP, and that could have went.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
A long way, a longer way, having that accolade on
his resume, and I don't like it all.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Right, Well, the numbers would show he sa Quan was
rushing for about twenty yards more per game than Jonathan Taylor.
So that would put Jonathan Taylor about at the end
of the season. And this is assuming that Jonathan Taylor
played all seventeen games. He would be about two hundred
yards short, so he'd be somewhere around like eighteen hundred yards.
(38:03):
The only other difference is though Jonathan Taylor's catching for
about eight yards more per game, so he as far
as total yards from scrimmage, it would be close, but
say Kuoni still have gotten him.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
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Speaker 5 (39:40):
Hey, hey, all right, So did you guys see that
Dave Roberts was kind of complaining about the international travel
for the for the Dodgers and kind of implying that,
I don't know, maybe Canada is up to some shenanigans.
He said, he doesn't. It's like I just arrived thirty
minutes ago, so there was some delays. I don't know
there was intent or not, but man, the international stuff
(40:04):
was a bear, but we made it.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Huh. I mean, these guys are everyone's private right now.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Everyone from southern California has an excuse about traveling. It's horrible.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
It's unbelievable. It's horrible experiences trying.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Dodgers Southern Cow Like everyone's just just complaining about it,
like like no one else has to travel that way.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
You know, when I was a kid and recorders, camcorders
were a thing like VHS tapes you put inside of
them recorded.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I was going to the gate to go to Utah.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I was like twelve years old, I believe, going to Utah,
and the Pittsburgh Pirates were walking.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Through the terminal to go to the airplay.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I got caught it on film, Like I don't know
where that VHS canset is, but I caught Barry Bonds,
Bobby Bonilla, vans like like they were all coming through,
just walking. I was just catching all the tray back Yeah, yeah,
Doug dray Back, Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I thought they would be taking privates by now. They're
not taking a private I'm pretty sure they are. Like
that's strange, man, I don't know. Yeah, travels easy, they say,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
There's much to complain about. I mean, all day from
Cali to Canada, you just take j They just charter
j j X. Yeah, that's that's that's a it's a
private air private airline.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I mean, how many people are on on a baseball squad,
like twenty twenty two?
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, close to thirty five. All right, well, guess they
need a big play.
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Speaker 2 (01:16):
It last a week right after Halloween. This is this
Bad Boys going away for good.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's like next week.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
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Speaker 3 (01:41):
Your football recap Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
We appreciate you doing so as we take you all
the way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific.
How we feel in here on this Monday morning?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Good morning, Good morning, guys. How's everybody feeling.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I have never heard this song? No, You're too young
for the Lost Boys. That's why I don't think you're
too young for I'm just in a better music than this.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You you remember the movie Lost Boys? You can't say
you remember? Yeah, I'm about to say you can't because
this is the song like You're too young Qude, That's
all like sit this one out, that's all keeper Sutherland.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Set this one out, brou It's all right. You know
it's an old movie.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, how would you say of me it's a good song?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Though it's a good song?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Because it made the movie and the movie was a
good movie. I picked it, which I thought the movie
like not.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Out of moldor the movie is kind of it's dumb,
but it's like it's like but it was a part
of my childhood.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It's like vampires on the Beach.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean, it was a cool little dip.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I don't know why. It was a cool movie, but
everybody liked it. And that song made the movie. Like
that song right there, like that made the movie.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It'll be out by next Monday. Yeah, it's got a
it's got a five day shelf.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Leave it in the eighties. Yeah, it's it's not it's
not really anything that's gonna get you fired up. Accuse it.
I don't really have vaguely like yeah, you aren't even air.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Look you see y'all see me flexing all y'all. Right,
now I'm a seventies baby goad. Dang you no, well,
uh speaking of the Lost Boys film. Yeah, I mean,
does it have a key for Sutherland in it? Sutherland Sutherland.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I didn't even know when that movie came out. It
had to be like eighty seven, yeah, something like.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, eighty seven. Eah, yeah, I was alive for that.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What were you doing?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, probably trying to.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Walk go milk.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
No More has not a good review on a Rotten
It's not a good movie good.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It's not a good song. But everybody loved it. Oh no, man,
everybody like that movie.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's why I was really hesitant about even wanting to
put it in. And I was like, you know what,
it's Halloween five days and then it's out and then
after that you never hear it again.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, it's not a good song and the movie's.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Not many maybe because that was back when like home
box Office really was home box office like stuff like that,
Like you were limited to what they were releasing on
HBO and sometimes Cinemax, but really back then it was
all about HBO. So when they you know, when a
(04:39):
movie would come out, it's like, I mean, I used
to watch The Hobbit. I used to watch UH and
it wasn't called the Hobbit, it was called UH. Because
they had proto in it or what was it?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Lord?
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But was that the first? Was that original one with
with it?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Was?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It was the it was it was a cartoon like
there was so many Willow. Come on, man, Willow Willow.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
You know I met him. I'll tell that story. I
met him? You met Willow? Fanboyed out?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I totally geeked out in the middle of a restaurant
as big as he looks, Damn as big as he looks.
Freaked out. He knew who I was. We were in
an Italian restaurant in Jersey. We were going to play
the Giants. I freaked out because I met the the
I met Willow, crazy crazy man and that was a
(05:34):
dumb movie, but we loved it.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, Jordan of the Mredumb.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Bro, you watched those guys zilla movies. Nowadays, it's so like,
what were we doing?
Speaker 8 (05:46):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What you had to go outside and play cause you
didn't have what these these kids have today. I mean,
technology is so crazy. You could be a part of
the movie these days. Far I'm kidding, Sorr them them movies.
Back then, you had to get out and go out
and play because it wasn't nothing good enough to keep
you in the house, not the video.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Games, not the movies. The music was better depending on
what you were listening to.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, I mean, I'm sure people probably turned off a
lot of NFL games yesterday.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I know you did.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It was not good, Like it just wasn't good. The
big night cap was how did we do? How did
we do on our picks? I don't know. I don't
want to look not great.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Let me go through it real quick.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
By the way, LeVar LeVar calls last night, because who
did I have in the Steelers?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
My god, I was root for the Steelers and I
was like, who you had?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Y Well, that was the only one LeVar got that
besides Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So yeah, that was the only one besides So I
got more than one.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You're two and three?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
All right, all right, all right, I'll take that. What
were y'all?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I was two and three? Jonas is one in three.
What killed me was the the money line pick for
the Steelers last night, who at one point it looked like,
all right, this is just gonna run all over them,
and then they just kind.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Of you know what happened in the second hand, they
walked them down.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I'll be honest with you when you looked at the
speed and like talent of the Packers versus Pittsburgh, that
just it feels like that like old strong man. But
you're like, yeah, they can't really threaten you, like if
they can't physically maul you with the extra tackle that
plays tight end and Darnell Washington and you know Ben
(07:40):
Skronik out there and DK Metcalf where they just try
to like abuse you with their size. They can't really
match up, like they have a hard time offensively like
creating many big plays. And there was the early catch
by Roman Wilson the sideline. I was nice, but I
mean that came off of Rogers having time to scramble.
And other than that, he seemed to very very intentive
(08:02):
getting the ball out of his hand quick like he
don't want anyone to touch him. And every single play
like you know, again, Migah Parsons is gonna have that
sort of impact. But it was almost over the top
where they they were not ever trying to just have
Rogers draw back and send five guys out on the
route like there was always a chip, there was always
(08:23):
a nudge or something on the edge, which it's fine,
it's great, but you're not gonna get that guy out
in the route concept. And if he doesn't get on
the route concept, if it's zone coverage, he's not going
to influence a defender to move out of a window.
So there was nowhere to throw anywhere down the field.
Then they just kept throwing these flats, throwing these like
you know, quick passes to you know short like around
(08:45):
the line of scrimmage. That's just not gonna win you
football games.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They took that quartermout muscle car out there with that
that foreign, that Lamborghini, and they opened it up and
that that quarter mout. Once you got past that quarter mout,
I just didn't have it.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I had to thick tires on the back like that
the cass tongue. But it ain't had that tire. It
ain't had that top end speed. And they had that
top in speed. K Lee where they down at nine
and a half?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Was it nine?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Were they down?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
What was the score?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I half?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Times? It was like it was a game, sixteen seven,
sixteen seven, Yeah, there was a game, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Everything everything was set up man and then maybe that
field goal. Then after that it was just they just walked.
Who's the tight end Tucker Craft getting off, he was
getting off.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Getting off. Yeah, it did, it did.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
They got so much speed on the outside, like with
Watson back to and like even guys like Hell like
Golden really didn't have like a big impact. But they're
just threatened by all the speed they've got, you know,
Dobbs and Wilson or excuse me, Dobbs in the uh,
who's the other they've got. He just got a bunch
of guys who can run. Man, it's crazy. They look
(10:05):
pretty good. And their defense looks they look like they
are chippy is all get out, like they just it's
a good looking defense.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Last night was the first game all year they had
allowed a first half touchdown. Their defense has been great.
Mic is starting to find he's.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Starting to find. Yeah, he's starting to integrate. You could
tell he's not looking as like thumb out, thumb on
the hand, or or out of shape like they were
further along with him. Maybe his back is fully you know,
held up and recovered. But he looks I mean, I
knew he was himself that that one play where he
(10:42):
almost stripped him. He didn't get there, but he almost
got there. If you look at his closing speed on
that play. I was like, God, dang, he's like he's comfortable.
Now that's trouble because bad boys.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
They didn't allow us sack either, Like the offensive line
for green Baby didn't allow T. J. Watts to have
this big of an impact. I mean he was close. Yeah,
but maybe maybe that's more of like an indictment on
kind of where that pass rush is at. You know,
high Smith, what everyone saw. They kind of had a pressure,
but it wasn't It wasn't like what you saw from
(11:22):
the Packers, that's for sure. So credit the offensive live
of the Packers too.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I felt like they had a good game plan. They
was getting that ball out quick. And another thing that
I've been paying attention to that I'm like, I feel like,
really some type of way about is this this four
to two five defense? Oh yeah, I really feel nickel.
I mean, if you want to call it that, yeah,
I mean it's nickel. It is a nickel defense. It's
(11:47):
a nickel defense. But l but if it's a base defense,
I'm gonna just.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Call it back. I'm gonna call it by its numbers.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You got four d linemen, you got two backers, and
you got five defensive backs. It might be the most
ridiculously flagrantly dumb ass defense I've ever seen created as
a base standard defense period.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Point blank dime is a six defensive backs, okay, are right?
Bottom line is before one six bottom line.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Is with that set, with that set because because my
whole idea is a nickel. Just so we're clear from
a defensive player with the numbers, you're giving the numbers,
but that that nickel comes in and replaces the linebacker
but lines up as a linebacker. They're in coverage as
(12:40):
a linebacker, and maybe they might need him. It's a
guy that can play like both the run and be
able to play the pass, but better against the pass
than they are against the run. In general, that's when
they pull that linebacker off. They don't bring that secondary
guy up. They don't bring that extra guy up. It's
(13:01):
just two backers and everybody is getting ran on. Everybody's
getting ran on, and it's the quarterbacks that are doing it.
For the most part, it's the quarterbacks that are accessing
the second level of these defenses because you only got
two linebackers. Everybody else is deployed and coverage. What if
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we're in pass if it's a passing down.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I get it. I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
What was like really upsetting me because Saturday was it
was like it was a lot for me because I've
been living this watching how Penn State's defense has been playing.
But then I'm like paying really really close attention to
It's like, man, there's a whole bunch. It's like a
copycat lead. It's like, Okay, if you're gonna go walk
out and jump off the bridge and you know you're
jumping to your sure death, y'all just gonna keep going,
(13:50):
Just keep going, just keep going. Everybody's running this this,
this four to two, four to two, Just keep going,
keep going again, Nickel, it's four to two two front.
You got six guys in the box. It's b as
because you can't stop defense.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
That's all it is, dude. There everyone's because everyone's playing
more three wide receiver sets, or if they're playing like
a two tight end set, it's the one tight ends
essentially a pass catching tight end.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It is stupid, that's all it is. It's stupid. You
have removed the you've removed the middle backer. You you've
removed them.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You think that's dumb. You should see the three three five.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, I have ever seen the three three five. It's
in that wild concept.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's very it's very upsetting.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Also forefront, what's taking place with defenses playing in a
passing scheme on first down and on rundowns.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It is ridiculous and and and it's just further.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Some teams play what's called big nickel, so they play
a safety in that position or a nickelback that they
feel confident in that can the run as well as cover.
So we get that sometimes, but they're not doing that.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
The alignments are not conducive to saying that if you're
putting a guy up there to stop the run, they
only have two backers in the box.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, the backers don't matter. It matters about covering the gaps.
And that's where if you look at what a lot
of defenses are doing right there, they'll actually try to
play a gap or they'll try to have some of
the guys or someone inside two gap. And that's actually
what makes it more difficult, is they're trying to steal
a gap. And in college, if that's your complaint, it
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really is born out of the fact that RPOs are
almost cheating at that level because linemen can get down
the field three yards, which imagine if you are a
linebacker or a player they're putting in a run pass conflict.
I mean, think about a basketball hoop, right, it's ten
feet tall, So let's just look at that laid down
on a field, I mean nine feet. A alignment can
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can literally come out like it's run and block like
it's run. And yet you've got to make the determination
are you going to play the run of the pass?
So imagine that and how difficult that is to be
able to read as a defender. And so you're putting
these players in a run pass conflict. So what defensive
coordinators do is they say, well, there's always a defensive
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player assigned to a gap. However, we're not gonna do that,
or we're gonna say, this guy's got these two gaps,
and they're going to essentially try to steal a gap
with the way they go about trying to play the
run because it's too difficult to have some of these
formations where you're removing what would have been a backer,
but now a nickelback out into space and he's going
(16:51):
to play the run.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And the pass.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It's it's too difficult.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's the place that's the problem. It's replaced. They're not
too gap. They're telling them they are. They are telling
these guys to get the gap that they can get
so if they get reached.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you what I know. I'm
not telling you what I think. I'm telling you what
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
It's not it's not too gapping. It's not they're evolving
from too gapping.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
They're not everybody they are.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
They do. People do do it differently.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
There are guys that play a gap and a half.
There are teams like Indiana, you know what they play.
None of it re replace. It's not even read replaced.
They just try to get up field and penetrate, and
the backers are are basically filling off of.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
That that's re replaced. Q. If it's re replaced, that's
not what.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
They call it. If you want to call their D
line coach, we can literally have.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
A I don't need to call their D coach. I'm qualified.
I don't need that. I'm qualified.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I'm actually there every Saturday. I call games on weekends.
That's beautiful. Debate all you'd like, we can we can
I know that you're doing it on Saturdays and Sundays.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
A lot player A lot of what I want to
do it. I know a lot of what I want
to do. That's what i'd be doing. I do that
every day. I'm doing that right now on the radio
with all asses. How about that?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I was telling people talk about that gap integrity. Yeah,
gap de's fit.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Them in your.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
I'm upset, so y'all better leave me alone because they're
turning the linebackers position into the running backs position of
on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't like it. The plays to be made by
the second.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Day complement like Edgren Cooper I thought played really well
last night, Like Kway what like I thought those guys
actually did a really job in coverage and like in space.
Even though I don't, I don't like it because because
really the truth is it's look, you're kind of being
replaced by a nickelback, but also you're being replaced by
guys who are more versus who can play on the edge. Again,
(19:02):
You're in general you're being replaced by guys who are
just able to either do either pass, rush or cover.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's correct. I mean, that is correct.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I just I don't like the fact that you've removed
the middle backer and you've you've made it where you
have two backers that are basically splitting the difference in
the middle of the field is wide open, and those
two backers have to be able to read one more position.
Like you said, they're trying to steal a position on
the field, like you are trying to cover the run,
(19:36):
like you have three backers and you only have two,
and it's leaving it. When you're playing eleven on eleven football,
what happens is is if you get some sort of
a quarterback that has any type of athletic ability at all,
once you're doing once once these linemen are getting up field,
like you said that r PO, because that's what a
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lot of them are doing. They're doing these these these
run pass reads. They're they're stepping up, they're stepping up
to play to run. But there's some of these guys
are just going cause it's like okay, I'm I'm reading run.
They're running up the backs of the defensive line and
they're not even running up the backs or trying to
get into a guy.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They're running into the back.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Because they're guessing wrong on where they're supposed to go
and where they're supposed to They're supposed to fit off
of where the defensive tackle is. So if that defensive
tackle gets reached, then you got to fill inside of him,
and then that other backer has to be able to
fill over top or the secondary has to come down
and they got to clean it up. That's third level running.
That's you're talking about third level tackling. Already third level
(20:41):
tackling because you've removed one guy I can can make
the difference in the defense, and the way I see it,
it's the middle backer. Even though the one backer has
the same responsibilities as the middle backer.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They have to play off of number three and and
sit in that hole and and read the crossers and
all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But the bottom line is is all you gotta do
is widen out your defense. All you got to do
is send guys out. They got to widen out. You're
removing the backers based off of formation, and you're not
covering the center of the field, and you're daring them
the run. And they're doing it on both on both levels,
on college and in the pros. They're accessing the middle
(21:21):
of the field, and I think it's bull crap. I
hate where I hate the way some of these defenses
are playing out. I don't like the way it looks
when you watch it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Maybe I'm old school, maybe I'm a fossil, but to me,
you're playing the pass. And I know it's a pass
first league. Now I get that. I get it's a
pass first league, but play to run. Every team that
you see having success, they can run the ball. Every
team that is having success can run the ball effectively.
(21:55):
Why are you playing a pass defense on rundowns? Stop it,
cut that ass out, cut it out. It's ridiculous your
defensive coordinator. That doesn't mean that you're good. Stop running
that defense all first down.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Stop. That's all I gotta say about it. Man, I'm
not happy about it at all.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, I think that depends you know, you look at like,
for example, the run game of the Packers last night,
that was about three point three point six yards per time,
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buying should be. Uh, he's pretty much got Offensive Player
of the Year wrapped up at this point. I would
(25:06):
say MVP, but they don't give that to running backs anymore.
So Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, yeah, they was jocking him yesterday.
That's for certain.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
It's the best team in the league right now. It's
crazy to say they're up there. Yeah, look very good.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I mean when we say best team, I mean, I
know they're doing the best, but they're like the number
one overall team, right I don't know that that makes
them the I mean, obviously they're the best team statistic,
I mean by by category of wins and losses, but
are they the best team right now? Like, can they
stand up against Buffalo or Kansas City? Can can they win,
(25:48):
win those games.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
They run the ball, they've gotten really good quarterback play.
They seem like they fit all the criteria and if
we're being honest, they should be undefeated. That game they
lost was against the Rams. That was when you know,
the dude dropped the ball Ady Mitchell before he crossed
the goal line. There's another holding call that wiped out
a Jonathan Taylor long run. So yeah, you were saying,
(26:12):
you know, teams, you know it's a pass first league now,
but Jonathan Taylor has been fantastic, so overwhelming favorite to
win Offensive Player of the Year right now.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I'm just saying, and I'm I think that they're they're
a fine team, and they're showing that they can play
at a high level and they're doing well. But I mean,
outside of the Chargers, do they have a signature win?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Uh Denver? They should have lost that game. I mean,
and that's well, what what week is that? But what
week is that? I mean, that was the leverage? That
was that ridiculous leverage call? What week was this?
Speaker 8 (26:53):
What week was ridiculous? It's a rule, dude, it was
it was it was a it was a week call.
It wasn't really I just I just feel like the
way they had them really beat I just I just
don't know that. I don't I don't know if the
Colts are are fools, gold or not.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
They look good. Their record says they're good, but best
team in the league. I'm not ready to say best
team in the league, even though they look good. Jonathan
Taylor runs for three yesterday. I get all that he's
having a great year. Is Daniel Jones even in consideration
for comeback Player of the Year, because I don't even
know what the hell the rules on that is anymore
(27:34):
like back player of the year, Like, okay, you went
there what last year? Well, as we've learned, when a
guy almost dies on the field, uh, that mean he's
gonna win? Dang. So I just I just don't understand which,
like what definition applies to comeback player?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
All right, So, speaking of that comeback player of the year,
who would you guys say right now on DraftKings is
the favorite for coming back to the I guarantee you
guys will not get this because I don't.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I'm not going to try Joe Shador Sanders comeback Player
of the Year favorite right now in the NFL. According
to the DraftKings, Dak Prescott didn't he play last year?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, okay, I mean he was banged up a little bit. Yeah,
he was banged up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
But I mean we're gonna I mean Daniel Jones is
I mean he didn't play much last year.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That's what I'm saying. But was he what was he?
Did he go to the Colts last year or was
this his first year we went to Minnesota?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, See, I almost feel like this should be comeback Like,
isn't that what happened with the one quarterback that guy
comeback Player of the year. He went to a different team.
He was playing, but he went to a different team
played well, And the one comeback Player of the year
was like a quarterback when.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Flacco won it, he was he was he had wasn't
playing at all and they brought him in.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And okay, that's different if he wasn't playing at all. Yeah,
there was one where he was playing and he came back,
he went to a different team and one comeback Player
of the Year, Christian McCaffrey's second on that list, And
that would make a little bit more sense to me
than maybe Dak Prestot. Was he out for the season
last year, McCaffrey, I mean he missed a lot of.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Pretty much, Yeah, he missed a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I just don't understand comeback player of the Year. I
don't understand like the parameters of it, where it starts,
where it is.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I don't think anyone does. Yeah, I don't know. It's
a mystery. No one really understands.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, I just I just I'm curious as to what
the Colts will do as as this season, you know,
goes on. Like they have a manageable they have a
manageable a bad division.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Let's just call what it is. Everyone looks at them
as lesser because they plan a bad division, and so
we say their schedules manageable. But dude, they do they
beat and by the way, like they're not really allowing
it to be close. Like let's compare this to the
college ranks. Okay, like there's another team in the state
of Indiana or Indiana who seems to get this like
(30:12):
same flack where they're like, well, they don't really play well,
like they beat the crap out of the teams they
play like at some point and this is the NFL,
like these guys are all being paid and like they're
still absolutely demolishing everyone that gets in their way for
the most part. Now, again, Broncos game was closed. There's
a few close games in there. But like if you're
gonna like, well, what they're doing against the bad teams,
(30:33):
they beat the crap out of them. I think they're
a really good football team. Like I think we're all
waiting for like that.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
But are they the best right now?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yes, Like it's hard to say that because their quarterbacks
not Josh Allen, It's not Patrick Mahomes or Lamarn Jackson.
I get that, but Daniel Jones is playing really well.
And to Jonas's point, they've got potentially the offensive player
of the year. They have an offensive line that's played good.
They've got the defense that under lou Anarumo is like
taking its next step and really come around. They're they're
(31:05):
a good football team. Like they are the best right
now in the league. You gotta give them credit for
who they've been, what they've done all right, you saw
them and like Coop says, like, oh that Denver should
have won that, dude, they did that.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Denver's a good football team. Yeah, Like that's a good
one to throw up the hooks. Throw up the hooks,
throw the hooks up. They shouldn't have beat.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Us, Brady. You saw the Colts up close and personal.
Is this staying power?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Is this?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yes, that's a team that's going to be around for them,
like in the playoffs. Yea, to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I know that trajectory is pretty obvious. The way they're playing.
I don't see them falling off of a cliff and
missing the playoffs. Do they have that ability to sustain
in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yes, they can run, they can throw, they have a
quarterback who can take off make big plays. Like everyone's
just hesitating because again it's it's it's a little bit
about Daniel Jones to me, and they don't I don't
know if they believe in him or not.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Think that's the biggest question mark and can we believe that?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
But the people want to see them against like better
teams and be able to beat those teams. Well, guess
what you got Pittsburgh. I believe next week right at Pittsburgh,
and then in a few weeks I believe if they
get to buy then they go to Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's what I'm saying I want to see and listen.
I'm not saying I'm I'm prepared to say that there's
fools goal as a team if they lose to those teams.
I'm not saying that either. I'm just saying I don't
know if they had a real signature like the early
the early win against the Broncos, but that's early. I'm saying,
(32:43):
now that we're into the swing of the season, who
have they who have they beaten?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
That is of note. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Like that to me, And again, I'm not I'm not
going to jump out here and be like, oh, they
told told you they stink like they couldn't be like
this team. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I'm not prepared to say that either. I would just
be more. I probably would be more. I guess.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Expecting that they they stumble against one of those types
of teams. I will say this, whatever it is they
do against like a team like the Chiefs, that's gonna
tell me a lot. Because if you're dominating, you're winning
by double you know, two possession games against these these
lesser teams, which that is what they are. What does
it look like when you get up against a real
(33:33):
like a real heavyweight, Like do your punches do they
hit the same?
Speaker 9 (33:37):
Like?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Do they land the same? Are your body blows? Are
your are your big shots?
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Are?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Are they Are they really what we thought they were?
Or are you you know, are you now in the
big pond playing with the big fish? And it doesn't
work the same way.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Have you guys seen Jonathan Taylor's touchdown celebration the like
stutter stutter man? He comes to like not a dead
stop obviously, but he slows down at a rapid pace
to throw that stutter on And I'm like, dude.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Whether that's people still trying to tackle, that's it's so disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
It is so dope. Well but I'm just like, man,
is he gonna like pull something or no something? I
don't know. He's he's in a dead sprint and all
of a sudden, you.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Know, that's kind of it's kind of fly. It is,
it's really kind of fly. Like if I tried to
do that, my knee would explode. He you know what
upsets me by the way shooting at you don't see
what I'm shooting at.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
That's a three What you don't see what I'm shooting at?
You you're blind.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Broh, No, you can't see bro anyway. Anyway, what was
I saying, You're stupid?
Speaker 9 (34:49):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah? Yeah, this is the celebration. You know, you like
the celebration.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
This is why I'm upset about sa Quan still to
this day. You see how quickly it can. And Saquan
had a good little little game yesterday. No, he's as
growing as now. Sore, Like he's a little sore.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
From year to year, especially at that position, you're never
gonna he's never gonna have anywhere near.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Close to that type of season ever. Again, I know people.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Wanted to be positive and say, oh my goodness, he
could do this every single year. He can have that
type of success. That's so great what he did. He
was such a team player. Da dad this that, and
the other is Jonathan Taylor, Like I know he got
to to his yard is the third quickest or something
like that. There was some stat that they were saying,
but is he having a better year than what Saquan
(35:42):
was having last year?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Let me do I feel like Quon was having a
his I mean, I know he was.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Having a historical, historical year in terms of being able
to track down Eric Dickerson's you know, single season Russian
record is is Jonathan Taylor on any type of trajectory
like that with what he's doing?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Is it touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Is it yards? You know, total yards? What it like
our rush yards?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
What like?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Is he doing anything that special? Because I'm not I'm
not up on it to that that degree.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I think he's got twelve touchdowns so far this year,
he's got close to a thousand.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I think he's you know, at like eight fifty.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And yet we're talking about him for MVP for the league. Well,
offensive Player of the Year. He's not gonna win MVP.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Okay, Offensive Player the Year. Okay, I about to say it's.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Not a running back award anymore. But if Sakwon Barkley
gets that record, he gets in MVP the league. Yeah,
and he's never going to come close to that ever again.
So you could have knocked out the final week like
he could have played. He quit, well, they made him
sit down, they made him sit down. I just think
(36:53):
he should have got I'm going to forever as long
as we do this show, when there's a comparable that
comes up at that position, I'm going I always wonder
why they did not go after that record. I get, oh,
we're trying to prepare for the Super Bowl. I get
all that. Let's rest all of our guys. I get
all that, and then get him to get him to
the record as quickly as you can and get him
(37:13):
out of there. But you're never going to get that
close to that record again if it's Sakwon Barkley. And
that stinks that that you took that man's unselfish nature, selfless,
selfless approach to what he does, and you used it
against him, and now he'll never come close to that
record again.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
And he could have got MVP, and that could have went.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
A long way, a longer way, having that accolade on
his resume, and I don't like it all.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Right, Well, the numbers would show he sa Quan was
rushing for about twenty yards more per game than Jonathan Taylor.
So that would put Jonathan Taylor about at the end
of the season. And this is assuming that Jonathan Taylor
played all seventeen games. He would be about two hundred
yards short, so he'd be somewhere around like eighteen hundred yards.
(38:03):
The only other difference is though Jonathan Taylor's catching for
about eight yards more per game, so he as far
as total yards from scrimmage, it would be close, but
say Kuoni still have gotten him.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
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Speaker 5 (39:40):
Hey, hey, all right, So did you guys see that
Dave Roberts was kind of complaining about the international travel
for the for the Dodgers and kind of implying that,
I don't know, maybe Canada is up to some shenanigans.
He said, he doesn't. It's like I just arrived thirty
minutes ago, so there was some delays. I don't know
there was intent or not, but man, the international stuff
(40:04):
was a bear, but we made it.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Huh. I mean, these guys are everyone's private right now.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Everyone from southern California has an excuse about traveling. It's horrible.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
It's unbelievable. It's horrible experiences trying.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Dodgers Southern Cow Like everyone's just just complaining about it,
like like no one else has to travel that way.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
You know, when I was a kid and recorders, camcorders
were a thing like VHS tapes you put inside of
them recorded.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I was going to the gate to go to Utah.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I was like twelve years old, I believe, going to Utah,
and the Pittsburgh Pirates were walking.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Through the terminal to go to the airplay.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I got caught it on film, Like I don't know
where that VHS canset is, but I caught Barry Bonds,
Bobby Bonilla, vans like like they were all coming through,
just walking. I was just catching all the tray back Yeah, yeah,
Doug dray Back, Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I thought they would be taking privates by now. They're
not taking a private I'm pretty sure they are. Like
that's strange, man, I don't know. Yeah, travels easy, they say,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
There's much to complain about. I mean, all day from
Cali to Canada, you just take j They just charter
j j X. Yeah, that's that's that's a it's a
private air private airline.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I mean, how many people are on on a baseball squad,
like twenty twenty two?
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, close to thirty five. All right, well, guess they
need a big play.
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