December 12, 2025 • 42 mins
On this Friday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys recap the Thursday Night Football game between the Falcons & the Buccaneers while keying in on Todd Bowles and the Bucs frustrations. Plus, the guys go into the TJ Watt lung injury situation and we get another rousing edition of ICYMI!
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
The song is crazy Man, six am, three am. I
don't care four am unless you're still going from the
day before.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
This is your new day song.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You got issues, man, this is what you want to
come in like, this is this is how your line
it feels.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Coop's a big fant little Kamara Coop.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
How long have you been here working at Fox Sports
Radio or tonight tonight? Like four or five hours? Okay,
so you're at the end of your work day, right, sure, so,
meaning that if you weren't doing this show, this is
the end of your day, not the beginning. Correct, correct, Okay,
thank you. I've reached my case. He could get it
(01:59):
turned up as he he'd like to get because he's
heading home to do whatever it is, you know, get
fired up, take a sky high, trip into the sky,
out to the outer beyond, go go visit the Milky Way,
go to Marley Island, jump into a black hole. You
know he's got the end he could turn up. We're
(02:19):
just getting started. Come on, well change that song.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean maybe, uh the Bucks could have used a
little bit of that music.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Last they didn't have enough fight huh No, no, that's
uh No. It was the cream sickled uniform. I think
they look soft as hell. Man, Damn do you really?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Man, huh with the.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
You don't think they look cool?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Dude? I think.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I mean when I think about how you looked into
your Washington uniform, I'm like, do you look good in
the Tampa on?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I never liked the Washington uniform really, no, like too.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Let me ask you this, because you you had like
an iconic, maybe the greatest uniform there is in college
football or all all uniforms. Did you feel like it
was just like too much because you guys are so
simple at Penn State.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Maybe I just didn't like it. I didn't like the
way I will say it. When we went to the
old school ones with like the mustard type pants and
they had the seminal Yeah, the Indian spear on and
it was super super like burnt burgundy type. I love
that one. For some reason, I liked that one, but
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I didn't like the regular one. I like the old
cream sickles good, good, I like the old Redskins.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
There you go, I mean, because that's what it was.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
By the way, le Bar gave you permission, so I.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Mean I didn't have to give you permission. That's just
the name of the team and what the uniform was
for that team. You can't say, oh, that was the
Commander's uniform during that time, because they weren't the commander.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So I can point out that Brady grew up an
Indians fan.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You could point out the fact that I was an
Indian my entire career up until kidding in college. Yeah,
my little league team, my first team, I was a Brave,
second team I was a Redskin.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
The second team, I was a Chief.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Then I went to high school, which was our we had,
you know, back in the day before all of this craziness,
your youth league actually was supposed to feed into your
school district, your high school team.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I don't know if people if that even still exists.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
These days because all everything that goes on with you football,
but but it feeds into your your high school team.
So our high school team was the Indians. Northal was Indians,
Westview Braves, Redskins, Chiefs, you feed up by the time
you finish. You go into high school, and all of
us played together, and the teams that played together, we
want to stay title. My freshman year of high school,
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that was it. I never had a quarterback ever again
in college, not in the pro.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Eli.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But I wasn't with him long enough to get a
Super Bowl. I missed that that one year.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Wow, there.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Quarterback, all right, everybody got it.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It's all on the quarterback. Never had I had a
quarterback my freshman year.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Greatest football player I've ever seen in my life, played
both ways, and we want to stay tired.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I used to hold on, hold on. Last time I checked.
When you had posted like high school highlights of yourself.
You were a damn good running back. Yeah, and so
you're blaming your quarterback because you didn't have a service
of quarterback after your freshman year.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
We know it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
My senior year, we had a great quarterback, Brett Zivich,
and he ended up going to to an Ivy League school.
He's like bro, He's like split a night Adam type, smart,
like like super brilliant dude. Dad was a brilliant, brilliant dude,
like super brilliant, like me like we used to play
chess all the time. He's super smart dude. But he
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hurt his shoulder. He hurt his shoulder mid season and
he tried. He tried to get us. If he was healthy,
we would have went underfeat that my my senior year,
we had two losses.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It was against the same team.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Who was tackling you when you were a running back then.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I mean we played football, bro, there's some dudes. There
were some big dudes. I was were big as hell
is running back. Yeah, and I was fast and you
were fast. I saw it and I was quick, So
it was yeah, I know. I mean people tackled me.
They tackled me. I think you let them tackle you.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
That's all. Put it out and let nobody tackle you.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Wouldn't you would have hated to play. I would have
held you to a higher standard.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Damn. I'd have been looking at you in the huddle.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
And be like, hey, you got you got to you
got Carrious LeVar. It's all you man.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I meant carry I did God dang that.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Hey hey it's still not enough.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I punt it. I can't.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
You gotta do even more.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I drove the bus. You gotta do even more. Son,
I packed the equipment. You were the punter too, Yeah, equipment.
In my eyes, I did every the equipment I did. Hey, bruh,
I did everything. I gave my teammates. I gave my
You gave the water were the water boy too? I did,
I did. I made sure the bug juice was good.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
You know what, that's a ten dollars Fine, I am this.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You're embellishing. That's all of us.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But I was an Indian while I was doing it.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Back to the original point, and you know what that's
that's that's so it's okay.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I picked up the equipment, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
All of it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Anyway, Uh, Atlanta, they they I don't know what they.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Proved last night. They proved that Cole Pitts can work.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, how about that? He finally showed up.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He looked pretty good, like, oh my gosh, he's unstoppable,
Like just get him in space and maybe he could
do the things that big receivers that are athletic can do.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Did you hear the Jon Robinson post game that he's
getting heat for. He was on talking to Amazon Prime
afterwards and they were just asking him about, you know,
style of play, where'd you learn to play like that
something along those lines, and he dropped a oh yeah,
just growing up, we played Smear the.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know what, Yeah, the QE Smear to Air and uh,
I mean you shouldn't get in trouble. Like I said,
we just had a whole entire conversation about you could
call it, like, if that's what your team was, that's
what your team was. If that's what your game was,
that's what your game was. Look, that was the game.
(08:31):
I didn't if you asked twenty random people that played
that game when they were growing up, what's the name
of the game.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Did you guys play growing up?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yes? I did, Yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I had no clue when I was playing it that
it was offensive or that it would be deemed defensive.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It was called what.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Was it called Free for all or Smear to the
Smear to Air.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, that's what it was called.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Nobody had any like ill intentions or or malice or
oh my gosh, I can't believe you said that, Like,
shut up what.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
It was called.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I had no clue.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Come on, man, as in, you guys didn't call it
that or you didn't play that.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
No, we played it. I just didn't know that that
they were playing teatherball out here, like they didn't play
they bet.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
They were playing.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
That sound like a growing up Cali type thing the beach.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
When I first got here, I was like, what in
the sam hell are these kids doing?
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Unfortunately, I can confirm as a Cali kid about the
tether ball.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
That is weird.
Speaker 8 (09:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I was like, my kids were coming home like and
you got it, and I my I got I got
them a mobile tetherball deal, like you put the water
in the bottom field, put the put the pole in it,
put the ball in the string on there. They got
good at it because they you know, my son would
break down and cry when he'd lose.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
My daughter was beating the hell out of everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Such a dumb game.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
It's so dumb. Punch the ball around.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Another person punched the ball back around, like like what.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Place near the air. Now you're gonna learn some character people.
You know, it's lazy.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You know, I think tether ball is it's woke. It's
a woke speedbag.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Oh woke, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Like boxers work the speedbag.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, and then well why is it woke?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well it's very very soft, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
It was.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It was.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
It was actually considered a British game tether ball. That
makes sense from the from the eighteen eighties. It was
a transition from uh like volleyball kind of.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
It's so whack, it's so wid. I used to watch
I walk my kids to school and I stand there
and watch them play the game during you know, the
time before you go into the classroom. I'd be like,
just off to my own thoughts, Like I'd be looking
at the parents like you soft mother efforts.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I think they stopped hanging it up at my school
because nobody played just.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
This was grade school. Though this was grade school. Oh,
there was a ton of kids playing it, a ton
of kids. I'm like, get over there and throw the football,
run the football and do things with a football. I
didn't even see a football. I ain't see no football.
Well the tether ball. Well, b Jean Robinson, you are
you're forgiving uh, Well.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
He's a NYE.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You should be a National League recognized person. He apologized,
Why you gotta apologize for what you do? So next
thing you're going he's gonna have to apologize for being
a good running back. Well he's gonna have to apologize
being black? Like what what else he got to apologize
for it seems like, hey, it seems.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Like a good dude. You know it was uh, you know,
very very nice, very humble, and drop that and then
afterwards I to apologize.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But that's crazy, Todd Bowles had Tampa Bay should have
to apology.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Should especially if you had a minor six. Todd Bowles
spoke after the game and he was not very thrilled
with his team's performance and basically put it on the
lapse of the players.
Speaker 9 (12:08):
It's inexcusable if you don't make excuses. We you got
enough words, you got care enough where it got something
to you. It's more than a job good How well
do you know your job? How well can you do
your job well? You can't sugar coat it was incusable
and fort it's for no excuse for it. That's what
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you're telling a lot.
Speaker 10 (12:34):
Look, I'm really not sure at this point. You've seen
everything in the season. You know, the coaches have done
everything they can do. This is a player driven team.
In the last four or five weeks, you got to
execute and they got to hold each other accountable. As
a coach, You're gonna sit there till you blue in
the face, until they start holding each other accountable and
doing the little things right. And that's not everybody that
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you're talking about, a small select few, but the small
select few is what's getting us beat man. Until that happens,
it's not going to get right. So we got to
get up and go to work tomorrow, no matter how
bad today looks.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
You got to put it behind you. And we got
to win the last three game.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
But we know that now that's much better.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Far con translate.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I comprehended the second message, the first one I would have.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I don't know. I don't know what he said. There's
too many, too many beeps. I know there was I
never heard him that pit. I know it was in there.
I know I know buck was in there. And I
do know that those were the two main words that
were we're getting bleeped out? Is bucking in an ick?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I think there's an on the end of one of them.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, well, well with the buck bucking, you know bucking
you added the I n G to the buck.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Can I give you guys some some status there are
like that.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Tampa Bay was fourteen in the fourth quarter, one point uh.
They couldn't get off the field on a third and
twenty eight they couldn't get off the field enough fourth
and four, fourteen. I mean, when you give up the
final fifteen points of the game, that's that's rough. Like defensively,
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I mean the look, and he's a defensive mind of guy.
You gotta be frustrated. And I'm not saying that the
Bucks offense and so he did enough too, because you
get to figure out a way at some point as well.
But man, and by the way, the penalties too, what
they have like over one hundred yards and penalties whatever.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
It was nineteen.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I think they got called for nineteen if I'm not
mistaken something along the lines. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
It's like, and you still can't find a way of
winning that game. I get the frustration as a coach.
You know, It's funny. I talked to a couple guys
that are coaching the league earlier and one of them
said to me, they go the league has and the
media around the league, it feels like they don't hold
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players accountable anymore.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Aid that's interesting. I was like, what makes you kind
of say that. It's like, you know, when it comes
to to it.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
When anything is happening on the field and it's not
working out, the coach gets fired or the coach needs
to be fired, it's the coach. It's this, which I
kind of thought, Okay, hold on a second, Like that
is when it comes down to it, really what your
job is as a coach, Like you're not putting your
body in harm's way, so it's your job to get
that player ready. If he's not getting ready yet, it's
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part of your resume, Like you're not out there doing it,
So it's kind of on you as a coach to
take some of that blame. But do you guys feel like,
you know, the media doesn't really blame players quite as
much anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
We see it a collapse like that, if.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You will, they're fanboys. They don't want to they're afraid. Yeah,
they're afraid because they know. But I'm asking you guys, like,
do you guys look at that on you? Who do
you blame? Do you blame top? You're asking me who
do Yeah? I think the blame belongs to everyone to
be honest, Like, dude, does the coach deserve more? Yes,
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the coach, in my estimation, deserves more. I believe when
the team loses it's because and more often than not,
all things given the pro level. Yes, if you're losing games,
it's more so because of coaching than it is than
it is players. But are the players to blame in
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some regards, yes, Now, if you're getting if you're talking
about sometimes in college or sometimes in high school, all
things given, I can say, for what it's worth, sometimes
the Joe's versus the pros.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
And outweighs it.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
You're not going to out coach a team that has
studs at every level on their team and you don't.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But all things given in the pros, like we create
these differences between the players and their levels and their values,
their value. But I think it's the pros. You have
a draft, you get an opportunity to build your roster
the way you want to build it. You hire the
coaches you want to hire. All things are created equal
as it appla as it a pro.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So if you're.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Losing, I think it's more on the management that the
GM on what players they're picking and the coach on
how the coaching staff is preparing them to play.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean, what about in this case in particular, because look,
their receiving corps finally got healthy. It was a short week,
you're against a team that's done, I mean Atlanta's got
I mean nothing going, and you gagged away that game
and Baker Mayfield took accountability for it afterwards, like I like,
I look at last night and I go that that
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feels like a players type thing. And Todd Bowles's frustration
I think he's probably just at his wits end, going, look, man,
we are struggling for some Like if you would have
told anybody, hey, week fifteen of the season, Carolina's in
first place in that division, they'd be like wait, what,
Like that shouldn't happen. And and we talked to Albert
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Burn he made the point I think a couple of
weeks ago where he said, you know, one of the
names to watch when it comes to, you know, the
coaching cycle on a potential hot seat is Todd Bowles
in Tampa. It's like all right, And I think Todd
Bowles calling his team out it probably looks at this
as like, hey, this is the last or like this
is the wake up call. If you can't, if you
can't wake up from this and realize we'ren't a bad spot,
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then then there's gonna have to be some changes here
maybe he's going to be the game.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But why is it that that's where you get to
with your players? That's that would be the question I
would ask, How do you get to that point of
where you are blaming your players for what's taking place?
Speaker 6 (18:34):
That back at you and Q like yeah, and I'll
answer I'll answer that simply like sometimes I feel like
the media is the only place where you can get.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
A hold of them.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
It's almost as I mean, and this is a tactic
that it's not just in the NFL, it's in college too.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
You see coaches at times call players out to the meeting.
It's like funny, it's because oftentimes it's the.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Only way for them to kind of feel that pressure
of the him having to see it over and over
and over again. And then maybe there's some other people
who kind of start to pile on or they start
to look at some of that you know, performance, and
they they realize like, oh, the player needs to pick
his stuff up. The coach behind the scenes only knows
the effort that the player is putting in. And that's
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I think part of the hard thing is it sounded
like Todd Bowles was trying to communicate that to people
like there's some guys who need to come along.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
And obviously Todd.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Bowles is a former player, and I would agree with
him in that sense, like the best teams are always
player driven teams.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
The coach can only do so much.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
He's not out there playing, and he's surely not, you know,
going to be in the players meeting rooms after hours
when you should be in there watching film where guys.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Should be going and getting treatment.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
And that's and I think it's frustrating last night considering,
you know, you get all your receivers back, you finally
get the combination of Evans, Chris Godwin, Emekabuca, and you
had McMillan back, like finally, and it ends up still
not a mounting.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I'm mounting to enough when it's all said and done.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
And another thing that's odd is you know they had
their bye week at a really good point in the season.
You know, they're at the halfway point, they only had
two losses, they've only had one win since their bye week.
They are one in five in their last six, Like
this is a tremendous skit, and don't and then spare me, like, hey,
they really didn't beat anyone in the beginning. Like I know,
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they lost to Philly as a one score game was close.
They beat Seattle, they beat a San Francisco team it's
got a winning record, and they got blown out by
Detroit and Detroit. But like they've got a couple of
good wins in there, and it seems like as their
schedules picked up, they've struggled to be able to find
ways of closing.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Out some of those games.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
And I just I mean, man, the only the only
good thing in their favor is they got Carolina twice.
Who's who's you know. I think that's they're kind of
like a week in week out. Some weeks they're great,
some weeks they're not so great, and then Miami, who's
been resurgent, but they at least have a shot of
trying to win out the.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Rest of the way and we'll see things where things fall.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I still think that comes back to coaching because it's
the culture.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I really do.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
If you're saying you want taw bulls fire.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
No, it's not what I'm saying. That is not what
I said. It's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I think it is when when you're talking about you're
choosing who your employees are. You're choosing them and you're
trusting them to go out there and do Like if
you're in the business world and you hire a head
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hunting company to go out there and hire you a CEO,
hire you an executives, hire you sales forces, and stuff
like that. They have a job to do. You have
the final sign off on the team that you bring
on and that you employ. They put together the strategies,
they put together the plans, and their job is to
take what it is that your business model is and
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what you're trying to do and and sell it and
impact the bottom line positively. If you do not do that,
the person first of to start with firings with the
team within the team, because you're going to try to
figure out if you can execute better and get better results.
But before before long, whoever it is that hired the
people to hire this team of people, they're going to
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lose their job and ultimately they're going to be held
the most accountable by the business. It's like, why would
you unless they're the owner. Unless they're the owner of
the business and they did this, you can't hold yourself.
You can, but you're not going to fire yourself anybody's
but maybe you should. Maybe you should because that's your
that's your decisions that led to the results. That's how
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I feel about the pros whatever it is that that
GM has done, and GM and the coaches of it. Now,
if you're saying I didn't sign off on these guys
being put on our roster, this is not the type
of guys I want on my team. Like you're talking about,
you can identify guys. I never identified a guy that
was a self driven, a leader, a good dude. Maybe
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he was a Christian dude, whether he was like just
a you know.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
For why that's mad and as.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I never saw a dude that was a solid dude
that turned into not being a solid dude. Sometimes you
gotta give a little to get a little bit more.
Sometimes you gotta take less to get more. Like maybe
that guy isn't as good as this guy over here.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Maybe he's not quite.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
As talented as this guy, but he's a better guy.
He's going to be a leader in your locker room. Now,
if you're going to sacrifice that, you gotta find what
the balance is on that, because if you get too
many guys that aren't into being on time, aren't into
going and taking care of their bodies and being in
the training room and being a good resource in the
(23:57):
in the meeting rooms and different things like that. Making
sure guys aren't making making bad decisions as they grow
into being men.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
That's your choice. You make that choice.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You get an opportunity to interview these guys and figure
out if you want to bring them into your your
locker room and into your building.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
That's your choice.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, but don't they have to be if they're being
because Todd Bowles is making it seem like some of
these guys are cutting corners and maybe being a little
lazy at Like, isn't that in that on you?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
That's in your resume.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
If you let me tell you something, you don't start
being lazy at the pro level. Somebody can tell you, yeah,
he's a little lazy from time to time. That's that's
how it is. That's how it is. Do you understand
the amount of scrutiny like that players get when they're
coming into the league. They look at so especially if
(24:53):
you're a draft pick. But again, do you get lazy
as scouts? Are you lazy when you're bringing in free agents?
What is important to you is it there forty time
or is it their character?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And I'm not saying that this is the case here,
but there are situations where all of a sudden, the
guy gets paid and next thing you know, you.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Know, maybe you're talking about one person. Well I'm just
I'm just like that said one person. But that's not
on the organization for paying him. That's on that guy
for getting paid. And then all of a sudden we're
talking you're talking about one person. That's like, that's what
we're talking about. If if a team effort isn't what
it's supposed to be, and then collectively you start hearing
(25:33):
about a group he said, it's not a large group
but a small group. Well, that group is large enough
where they're not winning games, So you can't say how small.
You're not going to say one person is the reason
why we're not winning.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
No, he said one.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Person from from play to play, like and this play
is this person and that play is that person.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Like, Okay, if you.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Put it together, how many guys do you have not
doing what they're supposed to do. I don't put that
on all the Oh he got a big concert seven?
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on FSR. So there's an interesting situation that went down
in Pittsburgh. TJ. Watt was hospitalized having his lung evaluated
because something went awry at the at the practice facility.
Something went to ride there at the team facility just
(30:37):
kind of popped up out of nowhere. Mike Tomlin addressed
the situation yesterday, and let's take a listen.
Speaker 13 (30:45):
I'm a little bit, you know, cautious about what I
say because I'm not a medical expert. But to make
a long story short, he was experiencing some discomfort when
he was at the facility yesterday, and so we took
him to the doc and you know, they're they're going
through some procedures. He stayed overnight in the hospital. He
has a lung situation that's being addressed. I think he
(31:08):
has some testing and so forth ahead of him this afternoon,
and that's all I know at this juncture. He and
I communicated last night. He was comfortable, and that's all
I have really at this point, can you tell? His
status for Monday night is really up in the air.
I think what transpires this afternoon is going to provide
more information for us. I just don't have a lot
as I stand here today.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Now, what went around yell?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
That doesn't matter what he said.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Well, this is where I wonder if something went wrong
because with what well, the fact that the NFLPA has
been made aware of the situation. When I hear that,
I go, why would the nfl PA need to be
made aware of this situation? And I just wonder because
you know, we've seen it before, you know, with Tyrod
(31:54):
Taylor and the punctured lung. Like I just wonder if
maybe something went wrong from a team physician, team trainer, whatever,
because there was no issue in the game that I recall.
This just sort of had he never Tomlin in his
Tuesday press conference, never addressed that TJ. Watt was dealing
(32:14):
with anything. This just happened at the facility, And I
don't want to just recklessly speculate. I just when I
see NFLPA has been notified of the situation, I wonder,
what's that about? That's my thought.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
How do you know that's not standard protocol.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I don't okay, so.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Kind of a reckless allegation that, I mean, does this
seemed on the up and up?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Everything's just yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Mean, like if there was a medical event that went wrong,
like I'm sure there's notifications made to your union.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
That's kind of part of how it works, all right,
Jonah knock. I'm gonna be skeptical of everything again.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
No, I'm not skeptical of everything. I just this one
seems a little fishy. That's all.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Well, if it comes out that it was, I mean,
then now you're ahead of it and you'll get that credit.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Why are you trying to blame the owners for punctured
lungs like it happened with one doctor in San Diego
I believe, and we haven't seen it since.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I'm not blaming anybody for a punctured lung.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I don't know. It sounds like you're blaming you.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
You just blamed it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I brought up that situation because we've seen it before.
And what a punctured lung? Yeah, punctured like I got stabbed.
I mean, so you're saying his lungs were sore. They
they was trying to numb it up with with with
some numbing. I think it was the nectar of the gods.
You were trying to know.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
They wouldn't they would they wouldn't hit him in his
lung with the.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
I've had this before. They give you novacane. If your
ribs are bothering you, they give you novacane. Yeah, it's
a it's a local anestesion or whatever. You know, it
takes away the pain.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
So there you go, all right, Now do you think
he plays on Monday night?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I do know.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I'm very speculative, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, I'm more curious of Philip Rivers probably know anything, honestly,
Like how serious I mean, if that keep you overnight,
it's obviously significant. They want to be sure that he's
okay with whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Or it could just be cautious, right, it could be
a hospital policy.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
But with that being said, I don't know how serious
it is with them wants to be cautious.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
We've all had women, you know, in our lives, have babies.
We've all had women in our lives have babies, and
there comes a certain point where they're like, I want
to go home, and you're like, well, it's company policy,
you have to stay for another day.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
It's one of those deals.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Would you be allowed to leave if you wanted to
go though, Like, if you're like, listen, I'm ready to go,
I'm up out here. Or is it like legal once
they have you in their care that you can't leave.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
You handcuffed to the bed. You can do whatever the
hell you want. You could just discharge yourself if you
wanted to. I always about that.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
I think there's different things that play here. Depends on
how the birth was, and you know, insurance might not
be happy with that, you know, so there's there could
be some.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Other things there. Here's what I'll say, what's that? Regardless
of what Jonas sab thinking, I would just say this,
maybe they kept them overnight so that they could put
some hot sauce on them ribs.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I mean you want to make you want to make them?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
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Speaker 1 (35:49):
You need to throw some of that on the Tamali's.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I don't here what Yeah? Did you bring them in?
Speaker 13 (35:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Can that happen into this weekend?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
This weekend.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I'm gonna make some ribs today, Yeah, yeah, I want
to do it. It makes some today, and I mean
I'm gonna crush them too. I'm gonna make my best bats.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Tommy Frazer says he makes better he'll make better ribs
than me, and it sounded like.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
He probably does by his process.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I like those better than beef ribs. You like baby
backs pork ribs?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I like pork ribs better than beef ribs too, honestly. Yeah,
you know, I don't have a problem saying.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's what we do, all right about you, Brady, beef
for pork.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
I like beef actually, which there's not many people who
do it.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, Yeah, they like it always burns.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yeah, it's it's not an easy thing to do. Joe Thomas,
all right, excuse me, geez, Joe Thomas, he probably does
make some good beef ribs I've never had his. Joe
Davis made me some beef ribs one time. They're phenomenal,
like maybe some of the best I've had since. We
went to like these spot, the barbecue spot its name
is Escaping Me in Austin one time, and I'll never forget.
(37:04):
They brought out this like platter of barbecue and we're
in our suits and all that, getting ready to call
a Texas game, and I'm like, how am I gonna
eat that right now? Like there's literally like fifteen minutes
before the game kicked, and We've got to do an
open in about ten, Like I'm worried about getting in
on my suit, on my face, like everything else. So
(37:25):
they took this, I mean, it was a gigantic platter
of just all sorts of this delicious looking barbecue.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
And they down by our stats guy's feet and I
was like, well.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
I'm out, I'm not that And because they kept it
down there basically until halftime, that was another really chance
we had to eat some food. And his name was Barry.
I'll never forget Barry, and he's just down there crunching stats,
and every once in a while you'd see him.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
He'd look over take a bite of something.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
And he'd just smile and be like it's good, and
I'm like, I bet it is, but it's it's near
your feet, not mine, so I'm not eating that.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Franklin Barbecue?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
It was, Thank you, Franklin.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
My buddy's a trying to be a pitmaster. He listens
to the show. He's out, he's over there. He left
left banking because he wanted to be It was.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
It was. It was Franklin's Yeah, dude, it was now.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Now, granted, I had it another time because I was
so frustrated with that process.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I just something about sending next to someone's.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Feet for that long man, and just I don't know,
that seemed very unappetizing.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, it's that's a little dicey. Two Pros and a
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right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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Now we turn it over to our executive producer, the
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Speaker 9 (39:38):
What of?
Speaker 7 (39:39):
No? What of?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Jonas? What a what a var up?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Now?
Speaker 4 (39:44):
What up?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Now?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
What up?
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Brady?
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Was up?
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Cute?
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How are you doing? P A T? That's me He's good.
He oh he good.
Speaker 8 (39:52):
Let's go go, Let's go in case you missed it.
My god, it's your boy.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
It's your boy.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
So well, speaking of it's your boy, well, we're gonna
go to Joe Buck on this one, guys. So in
case you missed it here, uh he Joe Buck was
actually brought into the was it. He is receiving the
Ford C. Frick Award for Excellence and Broadcasting by Baseball's
Hall of Fame. He's now joining where his dad Jack
(40:27):
is now a part of that.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
He hasn't called baseball since he's been at ESPN, I
don't think, because Joe Davis took over the Joe buckspot
when he went over to ESPN, so correct, So after
all these years, he's fit. I still think when you hear,
and we talked about this a little bit earlier in
the season, when you hear ESPN or not Joe Buck
(40:49):
and Troy Aikman, it's like, oh, it's a big game.
I just associate those two guys with big game, that duo.
So good price. It's a nice award, and he's a
good dude.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
You've ever met.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
But that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
That was a really cool dude, many really down to earth,
really really like you know, good dude, real good dude, man.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
So congratulations on that.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, it's a big award. What else we got, Patty speaks,
I have one more for us.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
So, Texan's minority owner, a Javier Laya, was actually recently
suspended and fined five hundred thousand dollars for what was
It determined he violated personal conduct policy and there were
last couple of years, a couple charges of some negligent
(41:38):
things he may or may not have done, like what
five grand. Well, let's just say he accepted a misdemeanor
charge of harassment with intent to annoy and seven.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Sexual assault charges that were now dropped. I mean, at
least it wasn't eight.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
You know, there's yeah, I mean that seems rather significant.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
What's one more here there? Five hundred grand?
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Jesus?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Okay, all right, but he's still, you know, still there,
still still in the mix.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
And they're saying he's eligible to apply for reinstatement no
earlier than June of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Well, that's unfortunate. We're all involved. Dang,
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
The song is crazy Man, six am, three am. I
don't care four am unless you're still going from the
day before.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
This is your new day song.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You got issues, man, this is what you want to
come in like, this is this is how your line
it feels.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Coop's a big fant little Kamara Coop.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
How long have you been here working at Fox Sports
Radio or tonight tonight? Like four or five hours? Okay,
so you're at the end of your work day, right, sure, so,
meaning that if you weren't doing this show, this is
the end of your day, not the beginning. Correct, correct, Okay,
thank you. I've reached my case. He could get it
(01:59):
turned up as he he'd like to get because he's
heading home to do whatever it is, you know, get
fired up, take a sky high, trip into the sky,
out to the outer beyond, go go visit the Milky Way,
go to Marley Island, jump into a black hole. You
know he's got the end he could turn up. We're
(02:19):
just getting started. Come on, well change that song.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean maybe, uh the Bucks could have used a
little bit of that music.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Last they didn't have enough fight huh No, no, that's
uh No. It was the cream sickled uniform. I think
they look soft as hell. Man, Damn do you really?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Man, huh with the.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
You don't think they look cool?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Dude? I think.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I mean when I think about how you looked into
your Washington uniform, I'm like, do you look good in
the Tampa on?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I never liked the Washington uniform really, no, like too.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Let me ask you this, because you you had like
an iconic, maybe the greatest uniform there is in college
football or all all uniforms. Did you feel like it
was just like too much because you guys are so
simple at Penn State.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Maybe I just didn't like it. I didn't like the
way I will say it. When we went to the
old school ones with like the mustard type pants and
they had the seminal Yeah, the Indian spear on and
it was super super like burnt burgundy type. I love
that one. For some reason, I liked that one, but
(03:34):
I didn't like the regular one. I like the old
cream sickles good, good, I like the old Redskins.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
There you go, I mean, because that's what it was.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
By the way, le Bar gave you permission, so I.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Mean I didn't have to give you permission. That's just
the name of the team and what the uniform was
for that team. You can't say, oh, that was the
Commander's uniform during that time, because they weren't the commander.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So I can point out that Brady grew up an
Indians fan.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You could point out the fact that I was an
Indian my entire career up until kidding in college. Yeah,
my little league team, my first team, I was a Brave,
second team I was a Redskin.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
The second team, I was a Chief.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Then I went to high school, which was our we had,
you know, back in the day before all of this craziness,
your youth league actually was supposed to feed into your
school district, your high school team.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I don't know if people if that even still exists.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
These days because all everything that goes on with you football,
but but it feeds into your your high school team.
So our high school team was the Indians. Northal was Indians,
Westview Braves, Redskins, Chiefs, you feed up by the time
you finish. You go into high school, and all of
us played together, and the teams that played together, we
want to stay title. My freshman year of high school,
(04:48):
that was it. I never had a quarterback ever again
in college, not in the pro.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Eli.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But I wasn't with him long enough to get a
Super Bowl. I missed that that one year.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Wow, there.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Quarterback, all right, everybody got it.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It's all on the quarterback. Never had I had a
quarterback my freshman year.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Greatest football player I've ever seen in my life, played
both ways, and we want to stay tired.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I used to hold on, hold on. Last time I checked.
When you had posted like high school highlights of yourself.
You were a damn good running back. Yeah, and so
you're blaming your quarterback because you didn't have a service
of quarterback after your freshman year.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
We know it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
My senior year, we had a great quarterback, Brett Zivich,
and he ended up going to to an Ivy League school.
He's like bro, He's like split a night Adam type, smart,
like like super brilliant dude. Dad was a brilliant, brilliant dude,
like super brilliant, like me like we used to play
chess all the time. He's super smart dude. But he
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hurt his shoulder. He hurt his shoulder mid season and
he tried. He tried to get us. If he was healthy,
we would have went underfeat that my my senior year,
we had two losses.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It was against the same team.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Who was tackling you when you were a running back then.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I mean we played football, bro, there's some dudes. There
were some big dudes. I was were big as hell
is running back. Yeah, and I was fast and you
were fast. I saw it and I was quick, So
it was yeah, I know. I mean people tackled me.
They tackled me. I think you let them tackle you.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
That's all. Put it out and let nobody tackle you.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Wouldn't you would have hated to play. I would have
held you to a higher standard.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Damn. I'd have been looking at you in the huddle.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
And be like, hey, you got you got to you
got Carrious LeVar. It's all you man.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I meant carry I did God dang that.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Hey hey it's still not enough.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I punt it. I can't.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
You gotta do even more.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I drove the bus. You gotta do even more. Son,
I packed the equipment. You were the punter too, Yeah, equipment.
In my eyes, I did every the equipment I did. Hey, bruh,
I did everything. I gave my teammates. I gave my
You gave the water were the water boy too? I did,
I did. I made sure the bug juice was good.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
You know what, that's a ten dollars Fine, I am this.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You're embellishing. That's all of us.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But I was an Indian while I was doing it.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Back to the original point, and you know what that's
that's that's so it's okay.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I picked up the equipment, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
All of it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Anyway, Uh, Atlanta, they they I don't know what they.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Proved last night. They proved that Cole Pitts can work.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, how about that? He finally showed up.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He looked pretty good, like, oh my gosh, he's unstoppable,
Like just get him in space and maybe he could
do the things that big receivers that are athletic can do.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Did you hear the Jon Robinson post game that he's
getting heat for. He was on talking to Amazon Prime
afterwards and they were just asking him about, you know,
style of play, where'd you learn to play like that
something along those lines, and he dropped a oh yeah,
just growing up, we played Smear the.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know what, Yeah, the QE Smear to Air and uh,
I mean you shouldn't get in trouble. Like I said,
we just had a whole entire conversation about you could
call it, like, if that's what your team was, that's
what your team was. If that's what your game was,
that's what your game was. Look, that was the game.
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I didn't if you asked twenty random people that played
that game when they were growing up, what's the name
of the game.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Did you guys play growing up?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yes? I did, Yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I had no clue when I was playing it that
it was offensive or that it would be deemed defensive.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It was called what.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Was it called Free for all or Smear to the
Smear to Air.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, that's what it was called.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Nobody had any like ill intentions or or malice or
oh my gosh, I can't believe you said that, Like,
shut up what.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
It was called.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I had no clue.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Come on, man, as in, you guys didn't call it
that or you didn't play that.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
No, we played it. I just didn't know that that
they were playing teatherball out here, like they didn't play
they bet.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
They were playing.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
That sound like a growing up Cali type thing the beach.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
When I first got here, I was like, what in
the sam hell are these kids doing?
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Unfortunately, I can confirm as a Cali kid about the
tether ball.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
That is weird.
Speaker 8 (09:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I was like, my kids were coming home like and
you got it, and I my I got I got
them a mobile tetherball deal, like you put the water
in the bottom field, put the put the pole in it,
put the ball in the string on there. They got
good at it because they you know, my son would
break down and cry when he'd lose.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
My daughter was beating the hell out of everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Such a dumb game.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
It's so dumb. Punch the ball around.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Another person punched the ball back around, like like what.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Place near the air. Now you're gonna learn some character people.
You know, it's lazy.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You know, I think tether ball is it's woke. It's
a woke speedbag.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Oh woke, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Like boxers work the speedbag.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, and then well why is it woke?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well it's very very soft, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
It was.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It was.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
It was actually considered a British game tether ball. That
makes sense from the from the eighteen eighties. It was
a transition from uh like volleyball kind of.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
It's so whack, it's so wid. I used to watch
I walk my kids to school and I stand there
and watch them play the game during you know, the
time before you go into the classroom. I'd be like,
just off to my own thoughts, Like I'd be looking
at the parents like you soft mother efforts.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I think they stopped hanging it up at my school
because nobody played just.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
This was grade school. Though this was grade school. Oh,
there was a ton of kids playing it, a ton
of kids. I'm like, get over there and throw the football,
run the football and do things with a football. I
didn't even see a football. I ain't see no football.
Well the tether ball. Well, b Jean Robinson, you are
you're forgiving uh, Well.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
He's a NYE.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You should be a National League recognized person. He apologized,
Why you gotta apologize for what you do? So next
thing you're going he's gonna have to apologize for being
a good running back. Well he's gonna have to apologize
being black? Like what what else he got to apologize
for it seems like, hey, it seems.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Like a good dude. You know it was uh, you know,
very very nice, very humble, and drop that and then
afterwards I to apologize.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But that's crazy, Todd Bowles had Tampa Bay should have
to apology.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Should especially if you had a minor six. Todd Bowles
spoke after the game and he was not very thrilled
with his team's performance and basically put it on the
lapse of the players.
Speaker 9 (12:08):
It's inexcusable if you don't make excuses. We you got
enough words, you got care enough where it got something
to you. It's more than a job good How well
do you know your job? How well can you do
your job well? You can't sugar coat it was incusable
and fort it's for no excuse for it. That's what
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you're telling a lot.
Speaker 10 (12:34):
Look, I'm really not sure at this point. You've seen
everything in the season. You know, the coaches have done
everything they can do. This is a player driven team.
In the last four or five weeks, you got to
execute and they got to hold each other accountable. As
a coach, You're gonna sit there till you blue in
the face, until they start holding each other accountable and
doing the little things right. And that's not everybody that
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you're talking about, a small select few, but the small
select few is what's getting us beat man. Until that happens,
it's not going to get right. So we got to
get up and go to work tomorrow, no matter how
bad today looks.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
You got to put it behind you. And we got
to win the last three game.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
But we know that now that's much better.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Far con translate.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I comprehended the second message, the first one I would have.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I don't know. I don't know what he said. There's
too many, too many beeps. I know there was I
never heard him that pit. I know it was in there.
I know I know buck was in there. And I
do know that those were the two main words that
were we're getting bleeped out? Is bucking in an ick?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I think there's an on the end of one of them.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, well, well with the buck bucking, you know bucking
you added the I n G to the buck.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Can I give you guys some some status there are
like that.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Tampa Bay was fourteen in the fourth quarter, one point uh.
They couldn't get off the field on a third and
twenty eight they couldn't get off the field enough fourth
and four, fourteen. I mean, when you give up the
final fifteen points of the game, that's that's rough. Like defensively,
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I mean the look, and he's a defensive mind of guy.
You gotta be frustrated. And I'm not saying that the
Bucks offense and so he did enough too, because you
get to figure out a way at some point as well.
But man, and by the way, the penalties too, what
they have like over one hundred yards and penalties whatever.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
It was nineteen.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I think they got called for nineteen if I'm not
mistaken something along the lines. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
It's like, and you still can't find a way of
winning that game. I get the frustration as a coach.
You know, It's funny. I talked to a couple guys
that are coaching the league earlier and one of them
said to me, they go the league has and the
media around the league, it feels like they don't hold
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players accountable anymore.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Aid that's interesting. I was like, what makes you kind
of say that. It's like, you know, when it comes
to to it.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
When anything is happening on the field and it's not
working out, the coach gets fired or the coach needs
to be fired, it's the coach. It's this, which I
kind of thought, Okay, hold on a second, Like that
is when it comes down to it, really what your
job is as a coach, Like you're not putting your
body in harm's way, so it's your job to get
that player ready. If he's not getting ready yet, it's
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part of your resume, Like you're not out there doing it,
So it's kind of on you as a coach to
take some of that blame. But do you guys feel like,
you know, the media doesn't really blame players quite as
much anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
We see it a collapse like that, if.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You will, they're fanboys. They don't want to they're afraid. Yeah,
they're afraid because they know. But I'm asking you guys, like,
do you guys look at that on you? Who do
you blame? Do you blame top? You're asking me who
do Yeah? I think the blame belongs to everyone to
be honest, Like, dude, does the coach deserve more? Yes,
(15:57):
the coach, in my estimation, deserves more. I believe when
the team loses it's because and more often than not,
all things given the pro level. Yes, if you're losing games,
it's more so because of coaching than it is than
it is players. But are the players to blame in
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some regards, yes, Now, if you're getting if you're talking
about sometimes in college or sometimes in high school, all
things given, I can say, for what it's worth, sometimes
the Joe's versus the pros.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
And outweighs it.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
You're not going to out coach a team that has
studs at every level on their team and you don't.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But all things given in the pros, like we create
these differences between the players and their levels and their values,
their value. But I think it's the pros. You have
a draft, you get an opportunity to build your roster
the way you want to build it. You hire the
coaches you want to hire. All things are created equal
as it appla as it a pro.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So if you're.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Losing, I think it's more on the management that the
GM on what players they're picking and the coach on
how the coaching staff is preparing them to play.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean, what about in this case in particular, because look,
their receiving corps finally got healthy. It was a short week,
you're against a team that's done, I mean Atlanta's got
I mean nothing going, and you gagged away that game
and Baker Mayfield took accountability for it afterwards, like I like,
I look at last night and I go that that
(17:35):
feels like a players type thing. And Todd Bowles's frustration
I think he's probably just at his wits end, going, look, man,
we are struggling for some Like if you would have
told anybody, hey, week fifteen of the season, Carolina's in
first place in that division, they'd be like wait, what,
Like that shouldn't happen. And and we talked to Albert
(17:55):
Burn he made the point I think a couple of
weeks ago where he said, you know, one of the
names to watch when it comes to, you know, the
coaching cycle on a potential hot seat is Todd Bowles
in Tampa. It's like all right, And I think Todd
Bowles calling his team out it probably looks at this
as like, hey, this is the last or like this
is the wake up call. If you can't, if you
can't wake up from this and realize we'ren't a bad spot,
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then then there's gonna have to be some changes here
maybe he's going to be the game.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But why is it that that's where you get to
with your players? That's that would be the question I
would ask, How do you get to that point of
where you are blaming your players for what's taking place?
Speaker 6 (18:34):
That back at you and Q like yeah, and I'll
answer I'll answer that simply like sometimes I feel like
the media is the only place where you can get.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
A hold of them.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
It's almost as I mean, and this is a tactic
that it's not just in the NFL, it's in college too.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
You see coaches at times call players out to the meeting.
It's like funny, it's because oftentimes it's the.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Only way for them to kind of feel that pressure
of the him having to see it over and over
and over again. And then maybe there's some other people
who kind of start to pile on or they start
to look at some of that you know, performance, and
they they realize like, oh, the player needs to pick
his stuff up. The coach behind the scenes only knows
the effort that the player is putting in. And that's
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I think part of the hard thing is it sounded
like Todd Bowles was trying to communicate that to people
like there's some guys who need to come along.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
And obviously Todd.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Bowles is a former player, and I would agree with
him in that sense, like the best teams are always
player driven teams.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
The coach can only do so much.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
He's not out there playing, and he's surely not, you know,
going to be in the players meeting rooms after hours
when you should be in there watching film where guys.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Should be going and getting treatment.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
And that's and I think it's frustrating last night considering,
you know, you get all your receivers back, you finally
get the combination of Evans, Chris Godwin, Emekabuca, and you
had McMillan back, like finally, and it ends up still
not a mounting.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I'm mounting to enough when it's all said and done.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
And another thing that's odd is you know they had
their bye week at a really good point in the season.
You know, they're at the halfway point, they only had
two losses, they've only had one win since their bye week.
They are one in five in their last six, Like
this is a tremendous skit, and don't and then spare me, like, hey,
they really didn't beat anyone in the beginning. Like I know,
(20:24):
they lost to Philly as a one score game was close.
They beat Seattle, they beat a San Francisco team it's
got a winning record, and they got blown out by
Detroit and Detroit. But like they've got a couple of
good wins in there, and it seems like as their
schedules picked up, they've struggled to be able to find
ways of closing.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Out some of those games.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
And I just I mean, man, the only the only
good thing in their favor is they got Carolina twice.
Who's who's you know. I think that's they're kind of
like a week in week out. Some weeks they're great,
some weeks they're not so great, and then Miami, who's
been resurgent, but they at least have a shot of
trying to win out the.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Rest of the way and we'll see things where things fall.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I still think that comes back to coaching because it's
the culture.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I really do.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
If you're saying you want taw bulls fire.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
No, it's not what I'm saying. That is not what
I said. It's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I think it is when when you're talking about you're
choosing who your employees are. You're choosing them and you're
trusting them to go out there and do Like if
you're in the business world and you hire a head
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hunting company to go out there and hire you a CEO,
hire you an executives, hire you sales forces, and stuff
like that. They have a job to do. You have
the final sign off on the team that you bring
on and that you employ. They put together the strategies,
they put together the plans, and their job is to
take what it is that your business model is and
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what you're trying to do and and sell it and
impact the bottom line positively. If you do not do that,
the person first of to start with firings with the
team within the team, because you're going to try to
figure out if you can execute better and get better results.
But before before long, whoever it is that hired the
people to hire this team of people, they're going to
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lose their job and ultimately they're going to be held
the most accountable by the business. It's like, why would
you unless they're the owner. Unless they're the owner of
the business and they did this, you can't hold yourself.
You can, but you're not going to fire yourself anybody's
but maybe you should. Maybe you should because that's your
that's your decisions that led to the results. That's how
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I feel about the pros whatever it is that that
GM has done, and GM and the coaches of it. Now,
if you're saying I didn't sign off on these guys
being put on our roster, this is not the type
of guys I want on my team. Like you're talking about,
you can identify guys. I never identified a guy that
was a self driven, a leader, a good dude. Maybe
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he was a Christian dude, whether he was like just
a you know.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
For why that's mad and as.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I never saw a dude that was a solid dude
that turned into not being a solid dude. Sometimes you
gotta give a little to get a little bit more.
Sometimes you gotta take less to get more. Like maybe
that guy isn't as good as this guy over here.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Maybe he's not quite.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
As talented as this guy, but he's a better guy.
He's going to be a leader in your locker room. Now,
if you're going to sacrifice that, you gotta find what
the balance is on that, because if you get too
many guys that aren't into being on time, aren't into
going and taking care of their bodies and being in
the training room and being a good resource in the
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in the meeting rooms and different things like that. Making
sure guys aren't making making bad decisions as they grow
into being men.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
That's your choice. You make that choice.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You get an opportunity to interview these guys and figure
out if you want to bring them into your your
locker room and into your building.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
That's your choice.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, but don't they have to be if they're being
because Todd Bowles is making it seem like some of
these guys are cutting corners and maybe being a little
lazy at Like, isn't that in that on you?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
That's in your resume.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
If you let me tell you something, you don't start
being lazy at the pro level. Somebody can tell you, yeah,
he's a little lazy from time to time. That's that's
how it is. That's how it is. Do you understand
the amount of scrutiny like that players get when they're
coming into the league. They look at so especially if
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you're a draft pick. But again, do you get lazy
as scouts? Are you lazy when you're bringing in free agents?
What is important to you is it there forty time
or is it their character?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And I'm not saying that this is the case here,
but there are situations where all of a sudden, the
guy gets paid and next thing you know, you.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Know, maybe you're talking about one person. Well I'm just
I'm just like that said one person. But that's not
on the organization for paying him. That's on that guy
for getting paid. And then all of a sudden we're
talking you're talking about one person. That's like, that's what
we're talking about. If if a team effort isn't what
it's supposed to be, and then collectively you start hearing
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about a group he said, it's not a large group
but a small group. Well, that group is large enough
where they're not winning games, So you can't say how small.
You're not going to say one person is the reason
why we're not winning.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
No, he said one.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Person from from play to play, like and this play
is this person and that play is that person.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Like, Okay, if you.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Put it together, how many guys do you have not
doing what they're supposed to do. I don't put that
on all the Oh he got a big concert seven?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Well maybe sa it would have to be.
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Speaker 5 (26:24):
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Speaker 4 (26:27):
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Speaker 6 (26:28):
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Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, right, come on, that's so lazy. It's late.
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coming up here in about twelve minutes from now here
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on FSR. So there's an interesting situation that went down
in Pittsburgh. TJ. Watt was hospitalized having his lung evaluated
because something went awry at the at the practice facility.
Something went to ride there at the team facility just
(30:37):
kind of popped up out of nowhere. Mike Tomlin addressed
the situation yesterday, and let's take a listen.
Speaker 13 (30:45):
I'm a little bit, you know, cautious about what I
say because I'm not a medical expert. But to make
a long story short, he was experiencing some discomfort when
he was at the facility yesterday, and so we took
him to the doc and you know, they're they're going
through some procedures. He stayed overnight in the hospital. He
has a lung situation that's being addressed. I think he
(31:08):
has some testing and so forth ahead of him this afternoon,
and that's all I know at this juncture. He and
I communicated last night. He was comfortable, and that's all
I have really at this point, can you tell? His
status for Monday night is really up in the air.
I think what transpires this afternoon is going to provide
more information for us. I just don't have a lot
as I stand here today.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Now, what went around yell?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
That doesn't matter what he said.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Well, this is where I wonder if something went wrong
because with what well, the fact that the NFLPA has
been made aware of the situation. When I hear that,
I go, why would the nfl PA need to be
made aware of this situation? And I just wonder because
you know, we've seen it before, you know, with Tyrod
(31:54):
Taylor and the punctured lung. Like I just wonder if
maybe something went wrong from a team physician, team trainer, whatever,
because there was no issue in the game that I recall.
This just sort of had he never Tomlin in his
Tuesday press conference, never addressed that TJ. Watt was dealing
(32:14):
with anything. This just happened at the facility, And I
don't want to just recklessly speculate. I just when I
see NFLPA has been notified of the situation, I wonder,
what's that about? That's my thought.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
How do you know that's not standard protocol.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I don't okay, so.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Kind of a reckless allegation that, I mean, does this
seemed on the up and up?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Everything's just yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Mean, like if there was a medical event that went wrong,
like I'm sure there's notifications made to your union.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
That's kind of part of how it works, all right,
Jonah knock. I'm gonna be skeptical of everything again.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
No, I'm not skeptical of everything. I just this one
seems a little fishy. That's all.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Well, if it comes out that it was, I mean,
then now you're ahead of it and you'll get that credit.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Why are you trying to blame the owners for punctured
lungs like it happened with one doctor in San Diego
I believe, and we haven't seen it since.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I'm not blaming anybody for a punctured lung.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I don't know. It sounds like you're blaming you.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
You just blamed it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I brought up that situation because we've seen it before.
And what a punctured lung? Yeah, punctured like I got stabbed.
I mean, so you're saying his lungs were sore. They
they was trying to numb it up with with with
some numbing. I think it was the nectar of the gods.
You were trying to know.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
They wouldn't they would they wouldn't hit him in his
lung with the.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
I've had this before. They give you novacane. If your
ribs are bothering you, they give you novacane. Yeah, it's
a it's a local anestesion or whatever. You know, it
takes away the pain.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
So there you go, all right, Now do you think
he plays on Monday night?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I do know.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I'm very speculative, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, I'm more curious of Philip Rivers probably know anything, honestly,
Like how serious I mean, if that keep you overnight,
it's obviously significant. They want to be sure that he's
okay with whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Or it could just be cautious, right, it could be
a hospital policy.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
But with that being said, I don't know how serious
it is with them wants to be cautious.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
We've all had women, you know, in our lives, have babies.
We've all had women in our lives have babies, and
there comes a certain point where they're like, I want
to go home, and you're like, well, it's company policy,
you have to stay for another day.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
It's one of those deals.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Would you be allowed to leave if you wanted to
go though, Like, if you're like, listen, I'm ready to go,
I'm up out here. Or is it like legal once
they have you in their care that you can't leave.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
You handcuffed to the bed. You can do whatever the
hell you want. You could just discharge yourself if you
wanted to. I always about that.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
I think there's different things that play here. Depends on
how the birth was, and you know, insurance might not
be happy with that, you know, so there's there could
be some.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Other things there. Here's what I'll say, what's that? Regardless
of what Jonas sab thinking, I would just say this,
maybe they kept them overnight so that they could put
some hot sauce on them ribs.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I mean you want to make you want to make them?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
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Speaker 4 (35:35):
It is.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
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Speaker 1 (35:49):
You need to throw some of that on the Tamali's.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I don't here what Yeah? Did you bring them in?
Speaker 13 (35:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Can that happen into this weekend?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
This weekend.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I'm gonna make some ribs today, Yeah, yeah, I want
to do it. It makes some today, and I mean
I'm gonna crush them too. I'm gonna make my best bats.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Tommy Frazer says he makes better he'll make better ribs
than me, and it sounded like.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
He probably does by his process.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I like those better than beef ribs. You like baby
backs pork ribs?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I like pork ribs better than beef ribs too, honestly. Yeah,
you know, I don't have a problem saying.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's what we do, all right about you, Brady, beef
for pork.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
I like beef actually, which there's not many people who
do it.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, Yeah, they like it always burns.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yeah, it's it's not an easy thing to do. Joe Thomas,
all right, excuse me, geez, Joe Thomas, he probably does
make some good beef ribs I've never had his. Joe
Davis made me some beef ribs one time. They're phenomenal,
like maybe some of the best I've had since. We
went to like these spot, the barbecue spot its name
is Escaping Me in Austin one time, and I'll never forget.
(37:04):
They brought out this like platter of barbecue and we're
in our suits and all that, getting ready to call
a Texas game, and I'm like, how am I gonna
eat that right now? Like there's literally like fifteen minutes
before the game kicked, and We've got to do an
open in about ten, Like I'm worried about getting in
on my suit, on my face, like everything else. So
(37:25):
they took this, I mean, it was a gigantic platter
of just all sorts of this delicious looking barbecue.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
And they down by our stats guy's feet and I
was like, well.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
I'm out, I'm not that And because they kept it
down there basically until halftime, that was another really chance
we had to eat some food. And his name was Barry.
I'll never forget Barry, and he's just down there crunching stats,
and every once in a while you'd see him.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
He'd look over take a bite of something.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
And he'd just smile and be like it's good, and
I'm like, I bet it is, but it's it's near
your feet, not mine, so I'm not eating that.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Franklin Barbecue?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
It was, Thank you, Franklin.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
My buddy's a trying to be a pitmaster. He listens
to the show. He's out, he's over there. He left
left banking because he wanted to be It was.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
It was. It was Franklin's Yeah, dude, it was now.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Now, granted, I had it another time because I was
so frustrated with that process.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I just something about sending next to someone's.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Feet for that long man, and just I don't know,
that seemed very unappetizing.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, it's that's a little dicey. Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Up next,
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hour a little over ten minutes from now. Cause for
(39:13):
concern for one team's franchise quarterback in the NFL, we'll
get into that for you right here on FSR, But
right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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Speaker 1 (39:33):
Now we turn it over to our executive producer, the
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Speaker 9 (39:38):
What of?
Speaker 7 (39:39):
No? What of?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Jonas? What a what a var up?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Now?
Speaker 4 (39:44):
What up?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Now?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
What up?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Brady?
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Was up?
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Cute?
Speaker 4 (39:46):
How are you doing? P A T? That's me He's good.
He oh he good.
Speaker 8 (39:52):
Let's go go, Let's go in case you missed it.
My god, it's your boy.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
It's your boy.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
So well, speaking of it's your boy, well, we're gonna
go to Joe Buck on this one, guys. So in
case you missed it here, uh he Joe Buck was
actually brought into the was it. He is receiving the
Ford C. Frick Award for Excellence and Broadcasting by Baseball's
Hall of Fame. He's now joining where his dad Jack
(40:27):
is now a part of that.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
He hasn't called baseball since he's been at ESPN, I
don't think, because Joe Davis took over the Joe buckspot
when he went over to ESPN, so correct, So after
all these years, he's fit. I still think when you hear,
and we talked about this a little bit earlier in
the season, when you hear ESPN or not Joe Buck
(40:49):
and Troy Aikman, it's like, oh, it's a big game.
I just associate those two guys with big game, that duo.
So good price. It's a nice award, and he's a
good dude.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
You've ever met.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
But that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
That was a really cool dude, many really down to earth,
really really like you know, good dude, real good dude, man.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
So congratulations on that.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, it's a big award. What else we got, Patty speaks,
I have one more for us.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
So, Texan's minority owner, a Javier Laya, was actually recently
suspended and fined five hundred thousand dollars for what was
It determined he violated personal conduct policy and there were
last couple of years, a couple charges of some negligent
(41:38):
things he may or may not have done, like what
five grand. Well, let's just say he accepted a misdemeanor
charge of harassment with intent to annoy and seven.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Sexual assault charges that were now dropped. I mean, at
least it wasn't eight.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
You know, there's yeah, I mean that seems rather significant.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
What's one more here there? Five hundred grand?
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Jesus?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Okay, all right, but he's still, you know, still there,
still still in the mix.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
And they're saying he's eligible to apply for reinstatement no
earlier than June of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Well, that's unfortunate. We're all involved. Dang,
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