July 9, 2025 • 41 mins
Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington are back for ‘Drac & Blac,’ talking about potential for the Cowboys with CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens together. Patrick Mahomes gets fat shamed. Plus, deal for Cardinals fans and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here
coming up next here on this Wednesday edition, Black and
Drack are back. That's right, and we've got all sorts
of NFL conversation to be had, including some fat shaming
of the great Patrick Mahomes. We're also going to talk
about how great Mahomes can really be with Tom Brady
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lurking out there as a mentor. We've got the very
latest on potential implosions or explosions when it comes to
the Dallas Cowboys. We've got another edition of In case
you missed it. We've got details on Stefan Diggs and
his off season that might make you want to throw up.
We've also got the old p Petris Papadaka stopping by.
Mike Brown's got big expectations for the Knicks. Are they warranted? Plus,
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we've got our midweek Wars and Lee's leftovers. It's all
yours coming up next here, Two pros and a cup
of Joon a Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio, let's give this.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Black and Drag Baby.
(01:27):
We are back.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Like we never left. It's Lamar did not see you, man,
Oh my gosh, that's what it is. That's lead for
you though, I mean, Lee, what are you doing this?
(01:56):
Just sitting here panicking? How to take it? Oh? No, no,
there there you go, all right, go back.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It was better that way. It's just so that's ridiculous,
all right. So for those of.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You always new loaves, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So for those of you, those of you listening wondering
why we're laughing. So the zoom camera was set up,
but it was facing the wrong chair, so there's just
an empty chair. Lvar is trying to figure out, like
where are you? And I'm talking and it looked like
a vampire move to where you just can't see anybody
sitting in the chair except the voice. You can't see me.
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But the problem is the camera's pointed at the wrong chair.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Okay, Lee, you can go back. It's okay to go back. Bro.
Joke is over, yap.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
But it is LaVar Harrington and Jonas Knox here. You
can listen to this show as always on the iHeartRadio app.
You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across
the country and wherever you are, making us a part
of your Wednesday morning.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
We are going to take you all the way up
until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
What up, sticks, Good morning. Feels like we were just here.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Oh man, the thoughts you have once you lived the
good life.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I tell you what, boy, I mean. Look, I don't
I don't have.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
The words to explain to you how I'm feeling right
the moment I woke up this morning. I just don't
have the words for you. Bro. I will Hey, we're back.
This is our slot.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So we've been filling in various spots throughout the morning lineup.
It was Dan Patrick, then it was Colin Cowherd. Then
we're back with filling in on the Herd the past
couple of days. And I will say this something that
jumped out to me right off the bat. You notice
drunk drivers way more at two in the morning than
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you do at seven in the morning, like gotting to
make it home.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well, yeah, you're going to work.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, I don't know if anybody's driving drunk on the
roads of southern Calge, especially trying to get to the
four h five to come into the studio seven thirty
in the morning.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Oh please, yes, the main one coming in.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know about that, but I do know this.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I saw a guy swerving in and out of lanes
and there's no possible way unless he just didn't have hands.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
There's no possible way that that dudel say at home.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's like, but it's so much more noticeable because there's
no cars on the road, and so that that jumped
out to be immediately.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Robbing in and out of out of lanes with no traffic.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's a uh yeah, a good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It is a whole other world, man, this time. So
I won't say that that's a a whole other world,
but you.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Know, yeah, you gotta work through it. It's almost like
therapy today's show. I have to work through being back
at this damn. I'm looking at Dan and Kyle and
like you mother efforts, Like what a great life you
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guys have. Boy, I tell you what this grind is real?
Hey man, When that alarm goes off and you realize
that you're barely into the next day, like when you
realize that you got to get the work and you
have to debate whether this am part of the day
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is the next day or if it's still the day
before you're in No Man's Land. That's a it's a
it's an interesting territory to be in. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It is very confusing.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I know when I was doing weekend overnights, it was
always trying to figure out if it was still Saturday
night or Sunday morning, depending on where you are. And
the fact that it's national You've got people listening all
over the country. And I mean listen, it's even early
morning time in Hawaii. That's how that's how odd this
time slot is. And they're like three hours behind.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So right, it's.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, just now hitting, it's just now hitting the next
day and theory we're almost a Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Why yeah, yeah, ten minutes ago was Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
They were doing Taco Tuesday in Honolulu on the Big
Malard mad on.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
The the Tiki tourch Fox Sports nine to ninety of
the Hawaiian Islands, but on.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
The East coast where Dan Patrick's show. And that that's
a little again, a little bit more sleep, a little
bit more alert, a little bit more ready to go.
But we're ready to go. I mean, this is good.
This is a sport all in itself. You know, how
we asked is is Joey Chestnut an athlete and is
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eating food professionally a sport, and then we broke down
what sports were. It's like physical exertion and competition, like
we are competing against other radio shows, right, and the
physical exertion of having to get up when we get up.
People might think that's easy unless you're someone who works overnights,
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Like if you work overnight, whatever it is that you do,
and listen, I don't claim to be digging no ditches.
So shouts out to anybody who's doing super crazy physical labor,
like literally labor. But there is a physical exertion. You know,
you got to you gotta deliver the goods on the air.
You gotta have the great energy when you're doing it.
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There's so many elements that you got to pull together
on live radio, and you know, it's it's quite a challenge.
You know we're live. That red light means it is live.
There is no takebacks and do overs and oh, run
the prompter back. You might have had a bad read,
do it again, like now you gotta you have to
be ready to crack this mic and do what you
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do like you do it for TV, like you do
it for radio. Because you're doing it for the masses.
So that's the part of it that gets me going. Otherwise,
you being draft would not be enough for Black. Yeah,
I'm gonna say, yeah, I'll still be sleeping. The hell
with this if it wasn't for all of that, The
hell with this. I like competing, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So that being said, let's talk about a fun little
competition that's going to be had in the NFL the
upcoming season. And that's because we've got ourselves an interesting storyline,
and I would say a perfect storyline. This is the perfect,
perfect storyline in the National Football League coming up this year.
So Dak Prescott, the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys LeVar
(08:41):
Arrington number one on the Dak Prescott fan club train
that rolls around town every NFL season. Dak Prescott spoke
about the opportunity to throw to not only Ceed Lamb,
but also George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
This was the Cowboys quarterback breaking it down.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
That's two guys that want the other guy to succeed
just as much. Saying it first hand, just them two
hanging out and me the bystandard. I'll go in the house,
you know, purposely for a little bit, you know, and
just peaking at them. They love each other, they love
each other's company, they love each other's game. To be
the guy that gets to get them the ball. It's
exciting as hell because you can turn on O TA
tapes and one of the guys the ball's in there,
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and the other one's got his hands up celebrating already.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So that was Dak Prescott talking about the early reviews
on George Picken Cedee Lamb as a wide receiver duo
for the Dallas Cowboys. It's the perfect Cowboys storyline going
into the season because you've got potential for explosions and
you've got potential for implosions. This is exactly what the
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Cowboys need because it's all nice. Now, this is great.
This is a wonderful story to discuss. You've got two
wide receivers Monoymano but really supporting each other and rallying
around each other. And then the reality sets in that
George Pickens needs a deal and he needs to produce
in order to get that monster deal he's looking for.
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And if he's not getting the ball, and Dak goes
to his favorite target, which is Ceedee Lamb, there's going
to be an issue at some point during the course
of the season, there's going to be an issue. And
it's exactly why it's the perfect Cowboy combo because it's
the Dallas Cowboys. Everyf tell Micah Parsons, hey man, look
whatever you sign your deal, that's awesome. Just know multiple
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times throughout the course of the season you're gonna be
asked about George Pickens' behavior. That's how this is going
to go. It's perfect for Dallas. It's the perfect Cowboys
storyline for the year.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Do you realize they have three tylers starting on their
offensive front? Really kind of interesting three tylers, and they
are some big dudes. They have a very big offensive line.
And the reason why I start there is it's going
to be vitally important, super critical that these guys are
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able to protect Dak Prescott. Now as it applies to
Pickens and Ceedee Lamb, I really believe that there is
a major, major opportunity here for both of them to
do some really really amazing things for their careers. Ceedee Lamb,
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while more often than not he was praised for showing
toughness because he pushed through that shoulder injury last year
and really really continued to try to be a catalyst
for this team. But there were moments that you know
where you saw him on camera and out of context.
If you don't have the proper context, you would think
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that this was a disgruntled player and it was being
directed directly at Dak Prescott because of a route, because
of him not getting the target. Whatever it meant been,
it just was. It came across as he had an
issue with something that was going on with Dak Prescott
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as it applied to him. Now, how that plays out internally,
what their relationship looks like, you know that's between them.
But you added George Pickens, and he has been labeled
a malcontent, He has been labeled a guy that isn't
necessarily a locker room guy. Are these things true? Pickens
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gets the opportunity to actually paint a different picture of
who he is. Ceedee Lamb doesn't have to paint a
different picture. Cedee Lamb just has to continue to be
Ceedee Lamb and maybe for the sake of the team,
limits some of the things that people are able to
see on camera, just for the sake again of Dak
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Prescott and of the optics of what their relationship is
and where this team is I think there's a lot
of positive that the Dallas Cowboys can take into this season.
But looking at the lineup the rundown when talking about,
you know, the team, I think it's very very fair
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to say, is this team set up for explosion or implosion?
I think it's a very very fair assessment, or I
should say, a very fair question to ask, because you
could clearly see this being a team that goes in
the right direction. It may be very difficult for Dak
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Prescott to mess it up with the amount of weapons
he has, the quality he has in lamb and pickings.
But at the same time, there is the thought people
would be lying if they didn't feel as though there's
the thought that they could mess it up.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Also there's that yeah, and I think you're gonna get
a little bit of both. There's going to be plays
where you look at them and go, damn, this might
be one of the better wide receiver combos in the league.
There's going to be outbursts or somebody getting pissed that
they're not getting the ball or somebody because look, I mean,
Jake Ferguson is one of the more underrated tight ends
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in the league, and He's put together some strong years.
Last year I think was a little bit down. But
Jake Ferguson's a guy that Dak Prescott's targeted and had
good numbers with. And so there has to be a
realness to George Pickens understanding where he's at. He was
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traded away. There's a thought about him as a player
of malcontent or somebody that maybe it's just too much
trouble to deal with the talent Pittsburgh gets rid of him. Well,
if he doesn't produce this year, he's not going to
get that deal that he's looking for. And so at
some point if George, you know, if Ceedee Lamb is
is going off and Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb just
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continue with their great chemistry, I.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Find it hard to him.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, And that's why I look at it and
I go, this is awesome. And they can celebrate and
be happy for each other all they want. But if
I'm George Pickens, I'm also looking at the reality of
my career and understanding, look, man, I gotta get mine,
I gotta produce, and I just think at some point
that's gonna pop up at some point during the year.
And then it's gonna be Dak Prescott, and it's gonna
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be Brian Schottenheimer, and it's gonna be all the other
cowboys are gonna have to answer for it. Jerry Jones
doing multiple interviews a week, probably gonna be asked about it, Like,
I just think that that's going to pop up.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And so because of that.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They're an interesting storyline as they usually are to watch,
because there's this thing.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That could go off at any moment.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
When you add George Pickens and at the same time,
you know he could he could, you know, have ten
grabs for two hundred yards and three touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It could go one of two ways, and I think
it's gonna go both.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
This is gonna take a level of trust, it's going
to take a level of maturity, and it's gonna take
a a nice amount of professionalism to make sense because
you have two ball dominant receivers. There's nothing wrong with
wanting that. I mean, if you think about when Joe
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Montana had the success that he said or he had
when he was playing a lot of people don't talk
about John Taylor, they don't bring up his name. But
if you don't have a John Taylor, Jerry Rice. I
would argue it intensely, fiercely that Jerry Rice is not
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able to have the type of career that he was
able to have. And maybe people forget the name John Taylor.
Maybe people don't bring up the relevance of what he
represented to that forty nine forty nine ers run of dominance,
but very ball dominant, but very quiet and for what
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it was worth. You know, Jerry Rice was quiet as well.
And you had two very very fine receivers that were
were just cooking. What about it just comes down well, yeah,
I mean you had a lot of You had a
lot of depth on that team that had a strong
offensive line. That's where I started starts in the trenches.
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They had Big Ray Brown and them guys up front,
and they had Rathman. That was when they still had
fullbacks in the game. And like you said, nobody ran
the ball like Roger Craig. I mean, here's a couple
guys that I just really enjoyed running the ball. Roger Craig,
Eric Metcalf, you know rival that that type of running style.
I said, the closest thing I've seen to the way
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they run these days is Aaron Aaron Jones. I just
I think the potential of what is coming to the
table with this Cowboys team they can be I really
believe the NFC East is going to actually have a
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movement positively towards the being maybe possibly again once again
the most competitive division in the NFL. It has the
makings of that has the handwriting on the wall that
this could be a tremendously competitive division from top to
bottom in the National Football League. This year, they've made
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some really fine moves, like Washington took a very definitive
step forward last year. You could see the change of culture.
The coaching staff has done a great job. Quinn did
a great job of bringing in good guys, and the
ownership group has changed the culture allowing Quinn to actually
create that type of environment. They've responded. They got a
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superstar stud quarterback. You know, you look at the Giants.
I mentioned that, I think their defense is going to
be nasty, and the defensive front good luck on having
time doing things with that group of guys trying to
neutralize them. It's not enough guys along the line to
block all of those guys and not have your quarterback
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be stressed out. So good luck with that. And it's
going to be interesting to see what they look like
on offense, and then we know what we're getting out
of Philly. We know exactly what we're going to get
out of Philly. That's going to be a team that
continues to be a very, very good team. Now you
look at Dallas and they have all of the makings
of being a competitive team. So now you're looking at
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it like, Okay, definitively, yes, the Eagles are the number
one team, but when you look at the rest of
the NFC East, I think it's going to be a
dog fight for number two. And I'm not so sure
that the third and fourth team in the division this
year isn't a ridiculously competitive team. They just weren't as
good as the teams that are one and two in
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the division.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, should be, It should be fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It is two pros and a Cup of Joe Here
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Speaker 1 (20:06):
We are gonna have the usuals.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
We've got our midweek Awards Coming up an hour two
Lee's Leftovers, the old p Petres Papadakas will join you.
All of it is yours here as we are back
on this fine Wednesday morning, but coming up next here
not so fine comments that didn't sit all that well
with a certain somebody in the NFL who I don't
know is nothing more than just a future Hall of Famer.
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You'll hear him next here on FSR.
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Speaker 2 (21:29):
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to hear some good old fashioned fat shaming coming up
here in just a couple of moments from now.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
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Speaker 3 (21:44):
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Speaker 4 (21:49):
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Speaker 7 (21:57):
Two runs around Bailey coun Third, Patrick Bailey.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Stores bits it inside the park walk off home run.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Now we've seen every day.
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And Patrick Bailey gets tackled.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
As he crosses home plane. Amazing. That play was bananas.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
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A little over fifteen minutes from now, Patrick Mahomes's trainer
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took to social media and basically called out a gentleman
by the name of Kevin Keatsman, who is a sports
personality in the Kansas City area. He's got a podcast
called Kevin Keatsman has Issues and you're probably.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Wondering, like, why would he have an issue with him?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Like why would he have an issue with this guy
of all people, Like as we were getting ready for
training camp and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Well, I mean, let's take a listen.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Vacation photos are popping up with Patrick Mahmes and he's fat.
He's an embarrassment. You're a five hundred million dollar quarterback.
You've made all these comments in the off season that
we're going to do our talking on the field. We
got our butts kicked in the Super Bowl. We're coming
back with a vengeance. Dude, you're fat. Your belly would
be fat at my pool hanging out with us sixty
year olds.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Okay, my skin's flabby and yours. I get it.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Stop stop the fast food, do a sit up, do something.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
I'm sure he's worked out and strengthened his arm, and
he's done all kinds of different things, quarterback things. But
there's no training to this man. I don't understand it.
He's not a kid anymore. You can't just run through
your NFL career eating taco bell all the time and
door dashing fried chicken, which he loves from that one
place over in Leewood where he gets it all the time.
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It's time, dude, It's time.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So that was Kevin Keatsman.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Tell us how you really feel about Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Good old fashioned fat shaming of Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Is he referencing is he referencing the vacation picks Patrick
Mahomes being on the boat with his wife. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I really.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Those pictures. I like, yeah, he's not he's I mean,
first of all, let's start here, Name me five five
greatest quarterbacks to ever play this game that had amazing bodies.
Name me five Tom Brady and who Joe Montana and
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Peyton Manning? And where are we going, we want to
go next Joe Burrow. And this might sound horrible after
that man just said fried chicken and all that stuff,
But I mean, is it generally only I mean the
top of the top, upper echelance quarterbacks that are in
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the conversation, they're probably black quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson's probably built
like an athlete. Michael Vick probably built like an athlete.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
What you're trying to say, we can't be built.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I'm just saying, generally speaking, white quarterback. White quarterbacks don't
come in as like specimens. That's that's what people fall
out over how Brady Quinn is built. Because Brady's built
like Brady's built well. But I mean when you start
talking about the best of the best that have ever,
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what Brady's built like, like, uh, he's built like he's
a strong built dude. Like especially when he played, he
looked like a linebacker or safety. I mean that's just
what it is. I mean, is that out? Is that
out of pocket? Why make that face?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I'm just helping.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Why you stop pause?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Because I wanted to give it enough time to breathe
so we could isolate that drop and have it for
future references. I'm always thinking ahead.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
For what did I say Brady's got a good body.
That's got a good body. I mean, where's the.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Lie Brady's well built.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
It as well built, and it's well it's well received
when we're all out together. I mean you could see
that people recognize the fact that he built well.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But I just think this whole idea that you look at.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
First of all, I don't don't care what anybody does
on their vacation, and I have to look on their
vacation photos. I couldn't care less if you want to
if you want to stand on a boat with your
shirt off and you know, two sleeves of pringles, like.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Do what you gotta do?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Like the idea that we're going to question, well, you know,
Patrick Mahomes is a physical fitness and whatnot. He's literally
off to the greatest start in the history of the
NFL at the quarterback position. We were talking about it yesterday.
All that he knows is AFC title game, overtime losses
or Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's it. And I don't care if he's got no abs.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I don't Whatever he's doing that works, you don't have
to be to your point, jacked and tore up from
the floor up to be a great quarterback. So this
idea like like, this is all of a sudden an
indictment of Patrick Mahomes and how successful he could be
as a quarterback because he was on vacation and his
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ab looked a little flabby.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Who cares? What that has nothing to do with anything?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Who cares that man said, you're an adult, Now what.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It is?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
It is? I mean, there's like, yeah, I think this
is one of those moments where which, by the way,
the more I get into our topics and the more
I look at what's going on in sports, it isn't
a slow time in sports. It's just not football season.
I think that's what maybe people need to start, you know,
kind of how they need to think about this time
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of the year. It's not it's definitely still a very
very significant part of the year for sports, especially if
you're a baseball fan. It's just it's a it's an
interesting time of the year, but it's also that time
of the year where you look at guys in the
National Football League and you're looking at the storylines. I
(28:57):
think it's just as important to a football season talking
about these preseason storylines before we get there because people
can make their their judgments. They can you know, do
their their prognosticating on what they think somebody's gonna do,
you know, forecasting what a team or a player is
(29:18):
going to do. I mean, fat shaming came Deebo Samuel's way,
probably warranted. He looked a little, a little heavy afoot,
running his routes like like he was bouncing more than gliding.
But again, all the it looked like that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You got like he's varuk assault.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Hey, bruh, he was bouncing, he went, he went and glad,
And that's all I'm gonna say. I mean, that's just
the observation of the film that came out of their camp.
But but nonetheless, the bottom line here is is that
you still the greatest thing I've always said about about
sports is as much as you can talk about something
(29:59):
a topic like okay, you want to focus in on
on Patrick Mahomes's body and the way it looks, which,
by the way, I don't recall ever seeing him without
a shirt on to begin with. Anyway, I don't even
have a comp. So maybe this guy has a comp
and can say what he saw before doesn't look like
(30:19):
what he looked like you know today, you know on
the boat, but that's Patrick Mahomes and it would take
a whole lot of proving that that him gaining weight,
if that is indeed the truth is something that impacts
the way he plays, Like I'm going to give just
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like everybody else is most likely going to give Patrick
Mahomes the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's not the NBA. He's not running up and down
the court like you.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Wanted this guy. If he wants to throw that out there,
I think that's more of him looking for a storyline
that could that's we caught onto it and we're we're
commenting on it, Jonas. But in reality, the quarterback position
you don't have to look like in Adonnis for one
and for two. In fact, it's actually, uh what most
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people would say. It would be a drawback if you're
too yoked up because you can't be tight. It's like
a boxer. You see a boxer that's yoked up, it's like, oh,
it looks good, but that's not functioning. That's not a
functioning body type. Like some of the best boxers had
bad bodies, and it was because they're able to like
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torque their bodies a certain type of way. There's a
flexibility there. It's working muscle. Then sol saw do badly
built whooped the hell out of somebody who you think
is yoked up. They could lift the gym, but they can't.
It's not it's not athletically functionable most muscles.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I think mixed martial arts change the a you view
who a real.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Badass is and who a real great athlete is.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And I say that because if you go back to
the early UFC days when Hoys Gracey came around, everyone
was like, whre's this guy and he's fighting all these
He's fighting all these jacked up, gassed up Ross sham Rot.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Was joked up, but he could he could get nat of.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Course, of course.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But Hoys Gracey had a submission game to where it
was like, man, he didn't have a body you looked
at like an Adonis, and he was going out there
strangling guys in that.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
He didn't show you his body either. He kept his
gee on him and he ain't play around.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
And he was doing that when it was tournament styled
where you had to fight multiple times in a night.
If you go to look up the name fad Or
Amilion Ako absolutely one of the greatest heavyweights of all
time in the history of mixed martial arts, never fought
in the UFC. But look at that guy, look at
his body and go, who is he? Oh, I don't know,
just a destroyer beat everybody in their prime, like, didn't
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have a body that.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
So this idea you can be.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
In the league after him. Wasn't the league called fade
or no, what was the other league called?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Uh, there's been a bunch, there's been there was.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
There was one like that though it sounded like that.
There was a Faye door.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Belatore, Belatore, Bere Belatore. H.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, there was also Elite XC. There was a whole
bunch of them.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
But it's just this idea that you can look at
somebody's appearance and go, oh, I know whether or not
that guy is.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Gonna be good dude.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You could go to any twenty four hour fitness anywhere
in the country and find somebody who looks the part
and then have them hand them a football and say, hey,
do what Patrick Mahomes does and they'll get laughed off
the field like this.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
This idea is the funniest thing you know where you
could see it at the beach. It is the funny.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
When they try and throw a ball, oh on.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Their little shorts, and they're always closest to the water,
you know, so they can be in front of everybody
so people can see it. Right, So they'd be right
in front of the water. They have their their football
and they'll be running around and muscles be popping out
everywhere and sun tanned lotion and sweating all this stuff.
(34:11):
Like pause. I mean, I'm just giving y'all a visual
cause I'd be sitting there like, dang, these dudes is
really out here like thirst trapping these people, right, and
then they throw the ball and it's like, oh damn,
I ain't played a day of football in their life.
Then you see the dude catch the ball. Ain't played
down of football in their lives. Built like models like
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Tommy Hill, figure models, whatever, but they ain't played no ball,
you know. Anyway, point is like there's a lot of
topics out there that that guy could have focused then on.
But choosing that hill to to start a battle, I
don't it just I mean, for what, it's almost a
(34:57):
laughable conversation to be basically saying that Patrick Mahomes isn't
in the best of shape is fat, and you can't
be prepared or ready to go compete for Super Bowl
looking the way that he looks like, that's a that
to me, that's an asinine argument. It's an asenine discussion.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Listen, there's only one person in the history of this
show that's allowed to fat shame anybody, and that's me. Well,
that's principal Joe Clark. Principal Joe Clark is the only
man who's allowed to fat shame anybody on this show.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
He's been given that, he's been given a pass.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
He's been told that he can do whatever the hell
he wants when it comes to bearing anybody that's got
a little bit of a weight problem, even.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Kids, if he's got a kid, if he's got a.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Kid in school, and that kid in school, that kid
in school, what's it doing.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Hanging out with you?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Boy? You're all seniors. Everyone climbed out instantaneously. Alrighty well, instantaneously.
I want all of you to look at this, slovenly
sloppy boy. Here, slop it boy.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
That's the only guy who's given a pass when it
comes to fat shaming.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Joe Clark.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You are giving the green light whenever you want to
fat shame on this show.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And it can only be that Still.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Still is a chubby dude though Man Still was chubby
in every movie he was in. Man, He's a little
chubby boy. Man Og in the acting game definitely was
always made fun of of the way he was built.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Uh, it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with
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Speaker 6 (36:52):
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Speaker 2 (37:03):
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Speaker 6 (37:43):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer, Lead.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
Lap Good god in everybody.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar. Feels good to be
bad guys, casey missed it. Arizona Cardinals have found a
new way to make some money. They're unveiling the new
program called the Cardinals Premiere Travel, in which they'll provide
their own fans an opportunity to travel to away games.
And they're gonna provide the Team's gonna provide a private flight,
two nights stay in a hotel, a team sponsored tailgate,
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and a welcome reception and other amenities to the game,
all for the cheap cheap price of twenty five hundred
dollars per person.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Nice.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
First game available is gonna be late in the season,
November third, Monday Night football against Dallas.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Damn per game, I'm assuming right.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Awesome, Yep, that's right.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
For the bat twenty five hundred. That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm bad not to.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Fly with with fellow fans. Have a hotel room. That's
not bad at all. It sounds like a bargain a
bargain deal right there for a fan experience.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Oh, there's just one problem. They gotta find fans.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Otherwise.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Has anybody met.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
A I mean, that's a major part of it. That's
a major part of this.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I mean, has anybody outside the state of Arizona met
a Cardinals fan?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Anybody? Never? Never? Once, I've never. I've never seen anybody
and go, hey, is that a Stony CA's jersey? Christ,
look at that. I've never met a Cardinals fan ever,
not one time in my life.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
You dusted off stony case.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I mean, dust, I've never met one. So okay, Yeah,
there's twenty five hundred bucks. And if you can find
them worth the price of admission, I don't blame them.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Go do what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
I mean, I might do it even if I'm not
a Cardinals fan, just because that's the experience of it,
all right, I mean hang out with some Cardinal fans,
you know.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I mean, I love the Phoenix area. We had a
blast out there, Jones.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Maybe you was going to go, I love it, all
of it. It's to their away games.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Jonas, I know, I'm just I was reminiscing about Arizona,
just thinking about.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
The good old day when you floated, when you were
looking for victims, when you were walking across the street.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Lee running a scooter for no reason whatsoever in a
place he doesn't know, like you know your way around,
right Arizona. I stand by that that I was having fun, LaVar.
Was that a worse idea than him trying to cross
the street with the truck on the way to the
Super Bowl a radio row in New Orleans? Him trying
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to walk across the street with the truck.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Just Lee has questionable decision making skills. That's that's all
I'll say. And I'll leave at that. And he's comfortable
with it. So as long as he's comfortable with it,
I mean, I guess that's if something were to happen.
It's not like I would be upset because it happened
to him, but I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, i'd be
(40:53):
hoping that he's okay, but i'd be like, yeah, I
could see how that happened.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
You remember, you remember that mountain Lion that got hit on
the freeway out there? Absolutely p twenty two.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
We're gonna call him Lee. Yeah, we're called Lee twenty two.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Lee twenty two.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
He crosses a one way street in New Orleans to
get to Radio Row and LeVar read him the ride damn,
talking to like you're his dad?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Like, Lee, why why you're taking chances like that?
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Why? I mean, it's it's early in the morning like
that dude could be drunk, like he could be half sleep,
his senses might not all the way be up. Why
are gonna even beat up to hit me? You don't know? Lee?
That's there you go, There you go, there you go.
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Oh my gosh,
Two Pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here
coming up next here on this Wednesday edition, Black and
Drack are back. That's right, and we've got all sorts
of NFL conversation to be had, including some fat shaming
of the great Patrick Mahomes. We're also going to talk
about how great Mahomes can really be with Tom Brady
(00:22):
lurking out there as a mentor. We've got the very
latest on potential implosions or explosions when it comes to
the Dallas Cowboys. We've got another edition of In case
you missed it. We've got details on Stefan Diggs and
his off season that might make you want to throw up.
We've also got the old p Petris Papadaka stopping by.
Mike Brown's got big expectations for the Knicks. Are they warranted? Plus,
(00:47):
we've got our midweek Wars and Lee's leftovers. It's all
yours coming up next here, Two pros and a cup
of Joon a Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio, let's give this.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Black and Drag Baby.
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We are back.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Like we never left. It's Lamar did not see you, man,
Oh my gosh, that's what it is. That's lead for
you though, I mean, Lee, what are you doing this?
(01:56):
Just sitting here panicking? How to take it? Oh? No, no,
there there you go, all right, go back.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It was better that way. It's just so that's ridiculous,
all right. So for those of.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You always new loaves, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So for those of you, those of you listening wondering
why we're laughing. So the zoom camera was set up,
but it was facing the wrong chair, so there's just
an empty chair. Lvar is trying to figure out, like
where are you? And I'm talking and it looked like
a vampire move to where you just can't see anybody
sitting in the chair except the voice. You can't see me.
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But the problem is the camera's pointed at the wrong chair.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Okay, Lee, you can go back. It's okay to go back. Bro.
Joke is over, yap.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
But it is LaVar Harrington and Jonas Knox here. You
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You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across
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Speaker 1 (02:55):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
We are going to take you all the way up
until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
What up, sticks, Good morning. Feels like we were just here.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Oh man, the thoughts you have once you lived the
good life.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I tell you what, boy, I mean. Look, I don't
I don't have.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
The words to explain to you how I'm feeling right
the moment I woke up this morning. I just don't
have the words for you. Bro. I will Hey, we're back.
This is our slot.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So we've been filling in various spots throughout the morning lineup.
It was Dan Patrick, then it was Colin Cowherd. Then
we're back with filling in on the Herd the past
couple of days. And I will say this something that
jumped out to me right off the bat. You notice
drunk drivers way more at two in the morning than
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you do at seven in the morning, like gotting to
make it home.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well, yeah, you're going to work.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, I don't know if anybody's driving drunk on the
roads of southern Calge, especially trying to get to the
four h five to come into the studio seven thirty
in the morning.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Oh please, yes, the main one coming in.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know about that, but I do know this.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I saw a guy swerving in and out of lanes
and there's no possible way unless he just didn't have hands.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
There's no possible way that that dudel say at home.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's like, but it's so much more noticeable because there's
no cars on the road, and so that that jumped
out to be immediately.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Robbing in and out of out of lanes with no traffic.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's a uh yeah, a good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It is a whole other world, man, this time. So
I won't say that that's a a whole other world,
but you.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Know, yeah, you gotta work through it. It's almost like
therapy today's show. I have to work through being back
at this damn. I'm looking at Dan and Kyle and
like you mother efforts, Like what a great life you
(05:05):
guys have. Boy, I tell you what this grind is real?
Hey man, When that alarm goes off and you realize
that you're barely into the next day, like when you
realize that you got to get the work and you
have to debate whether this am part of the day
(05:25):
is the next day or if it's still the day
before you're in No Man's Land. That's a it's a
it's an interesting territory to be in. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It is very confusing.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I know when I was doing weekend overnights, it was
always trying to figure out if it was still Saturday
night or Sunday morning, depending on where you are. And
the fact that it's national You've got people listening all
over the country. And I mean listen, it's even early
morning time in Hawaii. That's how that's how odd this
time slot is. And they're like three hours behind.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So right, it's.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, just now hitting, it's just now hitting the next
day and theory we're almost a Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Why yeah, yeah, ten minutes ago was Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
They were doing Taco Tuesday in Honolulu on the Big
Malard mad on.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
The the Tiki tourch Fox Sports nine to ninety of
the Hawaiian Islands, but on.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
The East coast where Dan Patrick's show. And that that's
a little again, a little bit more sleep, a little
bit more alert, a little bit more ready to go.
But we're ready to go. I mean, this is good.
This is a sport all in itself. You know, how
we asked is is Joey Chestnut an athlete and is
(06:45):
eating food professionally a sport, and then we broke down
what sports were. It's like physical exertion and competition, like
we are competing against other radio shows, right, and the
physical exertion of having to get up when we get up.
People might think that's easy unless you're someone who works overnights,
(07:06):
Like if you work overnight, whatever it is that you do,
and listen, I don't claim to be digging no ditches.
So shouts out to anybody who's doing super crazy physical labor,
like literally labor. But there is a physical exertion. You know,
you got to you gotta deliver the goods on the air.
You gotta have the great energy when you're doing it.
(07:27):
There's so many elements that you got to pull together
on live radio, and you know, it's it's quite a challenge.
You know we're live. That red light means it is live.
There is no takebacks and do overs and oh, run
the prompter back. You might have had a bad read,
do it again, like now you gotta you have to
be ready to crack this mic and do what you
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do like you do it for TV, like you do
it for radio. Because you're doing it for the masses.
So that's the part of it that gets me going. Otherwise,
you being draft would not be enough for Black. Yeah,
I'm gonna say, yeah, I'll still be sleeping. The hell
with this if it wasn't for all of that, The
hell with this. I like competing, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So that being said, let's talk about a fun little
competition that's going to be had in the NFL the
upcoming season. And that's because we've got ourselves an interesting storyline,
and I would say a perfect storyline. This is the perfect,
perfect storyline in the National Football League coming up this year.
So Dak Prescott, the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys LeVar
(08:41):
Arrington number one on the Dak Prescott fan club train
that rolls around town every NFL season. Dak Prescott spoke
about the opportunity to throw to not only Ceed Lamb,
but also George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
This was the Cowboys quarterback breaking it down.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
That's two guys that want the other guy to succeed
just as much. Saying it first hand, just them two
hanging out and me the bystandard. I'll go in the house,
you know, purposely for a little bit, you know, and
just peaking at them. They love each other, they love
each other's company, they love each other's game. To be
the guy that gets to get them the ball. It's
exciting as hell because you can turn on O TA
tapes and one of the guys the ball's in there,
(09:22):
and the other one's got his hands up celebrating already.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So that was Dak Prescott talking about the early reviews
on George Picken Cedee Lamb as a wide receiver duo
for the Dallas Cowboys. It's the perfect Cowboys storyline going
into the season because you've got potential for explosions and
you've got potential for implosions. This is exactly what the
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Cowboys need because it's all nice. Now, this is great.
This is a wonderful story to discuss. You've got two
wide receivers Monoymano but really supporting each other and rallying
around each other. And then the reality sets in that
George Pickens needs a deal and he needs to produce
in order to get that monster deal he's looking for.
(10:06):
And if he's not getting the ball, and Dak goes
to his favorite target, which is Ceedee Lamb, there's going
to be an issue at some point during the course
of the season, there's going to be an issue. And
it's exactly why it's the perfect Cowboy combo because it's
the Dallas Cowboys. Everyf tell Micah Parsons, hey man, look
whatever you sign your deal, that's awesome. Just know multiple
(10:29):
times throughout the course of the season you're gonna be
asked about George Pickens' behavior. That's how this is going
to go. It's perfect for Dallas. It's the perfect Cowboys
storyline for the year.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Do you realize they have three tylers starting on their
offensive front? Really kind of interesting three tylers, and they
are some big dudes. They have a very big offensive line.
And the reason why I start there is it's going
to be vitally important, super critical that these guys are
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able to protect Dak Prescott. Now as it applies to
Pickens and Ceedee Lamb, I really believe that there is
a major, major opportunity here for both of them to
do some really really amazing things for their careers. Ceedee Lamb,
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while more often than not he was praised for showing
toughness because he pushed through that shoulder injury last year
and really really continued to try to be a catalyst
for this team. But there were moments that you know
where you saw him on camera and out of context.
If you don't have the proper context, you would think
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that this was a disgruntled player and it was being
directed directly at Dak Prescott because of a route, because
of him not getting the target. Whatever it meant been,
it just was. It came across as he had an
issue with something that was going on with Dak Prescott
(12:07):
as it applied to him. Now, how that plays out internally,
what their relationship looks like, you know that's between them.
But you added George Pickens, and he has been labeled
a malcontent, He has been labeled a guy that isn't
necessarily a locker room guy. Are these things true? Pickens
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gets the opportunity to actually paint a different picture of
who he is. Ceedee Lamb doesn't have to paint a
different picture. Cedee Lamb just has to continue to be
Ceedee Lamb and maybe for the sake of the team,
limits some of the things that people are able to
see on camera, just for the sake again of Dak
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Prescott and of the optics of what their relationship is
and where this team is I think there's a lot
of positive that the Dallas Cowboys can take into this season.
But looking at the lineup the rundown when talking about,
you know, the team, I think it's very very fair
(13:12):
to say, is this team set up for explosion or implosion?
I think it's a very very fair assessment, or I
should say, a very fair question to ask, because you
could clearly see this being a team that goes in
the right direction. It may be very difficult for Dak
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Prescott to mess it up with the amount of weapons
he has, the quality he has in lamb and pickings.
But at the same time, there is the thought people
would be lying if they didn't feel as though there's
the thought that they could mess it up.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Also there's that yeah, and I think you're gonna get
a little bit of both. There's going to be plays
where you look at them and go, damn, this might
be one of the better wide receiver combos in the league.
There's going to be outbursts or somebody getting pissed that
they're not getting the ball or somebody because look, I mean,
Jake Ferguson is one of the more underrated tight ends
(14:09):
in the league, and He's put together some strong years.
Last year I think was a little bit down. But
Jake Ferguson's a guy that Dak Prescott's targeted and had
good numbers with. And so there has to be a
realness to George Pickens understanding where he's at. He was
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traded away. There's a thought about him as a player
of malcontent or somebody that maybe it's just too much
trouble to deal with the talent Pittsburgh gets rid of him. Well,
if he doesn't produce this year, he's not going to
get that deal that he's looking for. And so at
some point if George, you know, if Ceedee Lamb is
is going off and Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb just
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continue with their great chemistry, I.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Find it hard to him.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, And that's why I look at it and
I go, this is awesome. And they can celebrate and
be happy for each other all they want. But if
I'm George Pickens, I'm also looking at the reality of
my career and understanding, look, man, I gotta get mine,
I gotta produce, and I just think at some point
that's gonna pop up at some point during the year.
And then it's gonna be Dak Prescott, and it's gonna
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be Brian Schottenheimer, and it's gonna be all the other
cowboys are gonna have to answer for it. Jerry Jones
doing multiple interviews a week, probably gonna be asked about it, Like,
I just think that that's going to pop up.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And so because of that.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They're an interesting storyline as they usually are to watch,
because there's this thing.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That could go off at any moment.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
When you add George Pickens and at the same time,
you know he could he could, you know, have ten
grabs for two hundred yards and three touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It could go one of two ways, and I think
it's gonna go both.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
This is gonna take a level of trust, it's going
to take a level of maturity, and it's gonna take
a a nice amount of professionalism to make sense because
you have two ball dominant receivers. There's nothing wrong with
wanting that. I mean, if you think about when Joe
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Montana had the success that he said or he had
when he was playing a lot of people don't talk
about John Taylor, they don't bring up his name. But
if you don't have a John Taylor, Jerry Rice. I
would argue it intensely, fiercely that Jerry Rice is not
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able to have the type of career that he was
able to have. And maybe people forget the name John Taylor.
Maybe people don't bring up the relevance of what he
represented to that forty nine forty nine ers run of dominance,
but very ball dominant, but very quiet and for what
(16:58):
it was worth. You know, Jerry Rice was quiet as well.
And you had two very very fine receivers that were
were just cooking. What about it just comes down well, yeah,
I mean you had a lot of You had a
lot of depth on that team that had a strong
offensive line. That's where I started starts in the trenches.
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They had Big Ray Brown and them guys up front,
and they had Rathman. That was when they still had
fullbacks in the game. And like you said, nobody ran
the ball like Roger Craig. I mean, here's a couple
guys that I just really enjoyed running the ball. Roger Craig,
Eric Metcalf, you know rival that that type of running style.
I said, the closest thing I've seen to the way
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they run these days is Aaron Aaron Jones. I just
I think the potential of what is coming to the
table with this Cowboys team they can be I really
believe the NFC East is going to actually have a
(18:03):
movement positively towards the being maybe possibly again once again
the most competitive division in the NFL. It has the
makings of that has the handwriting on the wall that
this could be a tremendously competitive division from top to
bottom in the National Football League. This year, they've made
(18:26):
some really fine moves, like Washington took a very definitive
step forward last year. You could see the change of culture.
The coaching staff has done a great job. Quinn did
a great job of bringing in good guys, and the
ownership group has changed the culture allowing Quinn to actually
create that type of environment. They've responded. They got a
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superstar stud quarterback. You know, you look at the Giants.
I mentioned that, I think their defense is going to
be nasty, and the defensive front good luck on having
time doing things with that group of guys trying to
neutralize them. It's not enough guys along the line to
block all of those guys and not have your quarterback
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be stressed out. So good luck with that. And it's
going to be interesting to see what they look like
on offense, and then we know what we're getting out
of Philly. We know exactly what we're going to get
out of Philly. That's going to be a team that
continues to be a very, very good team. Now you
look at Dallas and they have all of the makings
of being a competitive team. So now you're looking at
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it like, Okay, definitively, yes, the Eagles are the number
one team, but when you look at the rest of
the NFC East, I think it's going to be a
dog fight for number two. And I'm not so sure
that the third and fourth team in the division this
year isn't a ridiculously competitive team. They just weren't as
good as the teams that are one and two in
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the division.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, should be, It should be fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
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A little over fifteen minutes from now, Patrick Mahomes's trainer
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took to social media and basically called out a gentleman
by the name of Kevin Keatsman, who is a sports
personality in the Kansas City area. He's got a podcast
called Kevin Keatsman has Issues and you're probably.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Wondering, like, why would he have an issue with him?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Like why would he have an issue with this guy
of all people, Like as we were getting ready for
training camp and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Well, I mean, let's take a listen.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Vacation photos are popping up with Patrick Mahmes and he's fat.
He's an embarrassment. You're a five hundred million dollar quarterback.
You've made all these comments in the off season that
we're going to do our talking on the field. We
got our butts kicked in the Super Bowl. We're coming
back with a vengeance. Dude, you're fat. Your belly would
be fat at my pool hanging out with us sixty
year olds.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Okay, my skin's flabby and yours. I get it.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Stop stop the fast food, do a sit up, do something.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
I'm sure he's worked out and strengthened his arm, and
he's done all kinds of different things, quarterback things. But
there's no training to this man. I don't understand it.
He's not a kid anymore. You can't just run through
your NFL career eating taco bell all the time and
door dashing fried chicken, which he loves from that one
place over in Leewood where he gets it all the time.
(24:17):
It's time, dude, It's time.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So that was Kevin Keatsman.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Tell us how you really feel about Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Good old fashioned fat shaming of Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Is he referencing is he referencing the vacation picks Patrick
Mahomes being on the boat with his wife. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I really.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Those pictures. I like, yeah, he's not he's I mean,
first of all, let's start here, Name me five five
greatest quarterbacks to ever play this game that had amazing bodies.
Name me five Tom Brady and who Joe Montana and
(25:13):
Peyton Manning? And where are we going, we want to
go next Joe Burrow. And this might sound horrible after
that man just said fried chicken and all that stuff,
But I mean, is it generally only I mean the
top of the top, upper echelance quarterbacks that are in
(25:35):
the conversation, they're probably black quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson's probably built
like an athlete. Michael Vick probably built like an athlete.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
What you're trying to say, we can't be built.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I'm just saying, generally speaking, white quarterback. White quarterbacks don't
come in as like specimens. That's that's what people fall
out over how Brady Quinn is built. Because Brady's built
like Brady's built well. But I mean when you start
talking about the best of the best that have ever,
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what Brady's built like, like, uh, he's built like he's
a strong built dude. Like especially when he played, he
looked like a linebacker or safety. I mean that's just
what it is. I mean, is that out? Is that
out of pocket? Why make that face?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I'm just helping.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Why you stop pause?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Because I wanted to give it enough time to breathe
so we could isolate that drop and have it for
future references. I'm always thinking ahead.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
For what did I say Brady's got a good body.
That's got a good body. I mean, where's the.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Lie Brady's well built.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
It as well built, and it's well it's well received
when we're all out together. I mean you could see
that people recognize the fact that he built well.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But I just think this whole idea that you look at.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
First of all, I don't don't care what anybody does
on their vacation, and I have to look on their
vacation photos. I couldn't care less if you want to
if you want to stand on a boat with your
shirt off and you know, two sleeves of pringles, like.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Do what you gotta do?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Like the idea that we're going to question, well, you know,
Patrick Mahomes is a physical fitness and whatnot. He's literally
off to the greatest start in the history of the
NFL at the quarterback position. We were talking about it yesterday.
All that he knows is AFC title game, overtime losses
or Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's it. And I don't care if he's got no abs.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I don't Whatever he's doing that works, you don't have
to be to your point, jacked and tore up from
the floor up to be a great quarterback. So this
idea like like, this is all of a sudden an
indictment of Patrick Mahomes and how successful he could be
as a quarterback because he was on vacation and his
(27:59):
ab looked a little flabby.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Who cares? What that has nothing to do with anything?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Who cares that man said, you're an adult, Now what.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It is?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
It is? I mean, there's like, yeah, I think this
is one of those moments where which, by the way,
the more I get into our topics and the more
I look at what's going on in sports, it isn't
a slow time in sports. It's just not football season.
I think that's what maybe people need to start, you know,
kind of how they need to think about this time
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of the year. It's not it's definitely still a very
very significant part of the year for sports, especially if
you're a baseball fan. It's just it's a it's an
interesting time of the year, but it's also that time
of the year where you look at guys in the
National Football League and you're looking at the storylines. I
(28:57):
think it's just as important to a football season talking
about these preseason storylines before we get there because people
can make their their judgments. They can you know, do
their their prognosticating on what they think somebody's gonna do,
you know, forecasting what a team or a player is
(29:18):
going to do. I mean, fat shaming came Deebo Samuel's way,
probably warranted. He looked a little, a little heavy afoot,
running his routes like like he was bouncing more than gliding.
But again, all the it looked like that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You got like he's varuk assault.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Hey, bruh, he was bouncing, he went, he went and glad,
And that's all I'm gonna say. I mean, that's just
the observation of the film that came out of their camp.
But but nonetheless, the bottom line here is is that
you still the greatest thing I've always said about about
sports is as much as you can talk about something
(29:59):
a topic like okay, you want to focus in on
on Patrick Mahomes's body and the way it looks, which,
by the way, I don't recall ever seeing him without
a shirt on to begin with. Anyway, I don't even
have a comp. So maybe this guy has a comp
and can say what he saw before doesn't look like
(30:19):
what he looked like you know today, you know on
the boat, but that's Patrick Mahomes and it would take
a whole lot of proving that that him gaining weight,
if that is indeed the truth is something that impacts
the way he plays, Like I'm going to give just
(30:42):
like everybody else is most likely going to give Patrick
Mahomes the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's not the NBA. He's not running up and down
the court like you.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Wanted this guy. If he wants to throw that out there,
I think that's more of him looking for a storyline
that could that's we caught onto it and we're we're
commenting on it, Jonas. But in reality, the quarterback position
you don't have to look like in Adonnis for one
and for two. In fact, it's actually, uh what most
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people would say. It would be a drawback if you're
too yoked up because you can't be tight. It's like
a boxer. You see a boxer that's yoked up, it's like, oh,
it looks good, but that's not functioning. That's not a
functioning body type. Like some of the best boxers had
bad bodies, and it was because they're able to like
(31:38):
torque their bodies a certain type of way. There's a
flexibility there. It's working muscle. Then sol saw do badly
built whooped the hell out of somebody who you think
is yoked up. They could lift the gym, but they can't.
It's not it's not athletically functionable most muscles.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I think mixed martial arts change the a you view
who a real.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Badass is and who a real great athlete is.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And I say that because if you go back to
the early UFC days when Hoys Gracey came around, everyone
was like, whre's this guy and he's fighting all these
He's fighting all these jacked up, gassed up Ross sham Rot.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Was joked up, but he could he could get nat of.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Course, of course.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But Hoys Gracey had a submission game to where it
was like, man, he didn't have a body you looked
at like an Adonis, and he was going out there
strangling guys in that.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
He didn't show you his body either. He kept his
gee on him and he ain't play around.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
And he was doing that when it was tournament styled
where you had to fight multiple times in a night.
If you go to look up the name fad Or
Amilion Ako absolutely one of the greatest heavyweights of all
time in the history of mixed martial arts, never fought
in the UFC. But look at that guy, look at
his body and go, who is he? Oh, I don't know,
just a destroyer beat everybody in their prime, like, didn't
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have a body that.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
So this idea you can be.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
In the league after him. Wasn't the league called fade
or no, what was the other league called?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Uh, there's been a bunch, there's been there was.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
There was one like that though it sounded like that.
There was a Faye door.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Belatore, Belatore, Bere Belatore. H.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, there was also Elite XC. There was a whole
bunch of them.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
But it's just this idea that you can look at
somebody's appearance and go, oh, I know whether or not
that guy is.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Gonna be good dude.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You could go to any twenty four hour fitness anywhere
in the country and find somebody who looks the part
and then have them hand them a football and say, hey,
do what Patrick Mahomes does and they'll get laughed off
the field like this.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
This idea is the funniest thing you know where you
could see it at the beach. It is the funny.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
When they try and throw a ball, oh on.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Their little shorts, and they're always closest to the water,
you know, so they can be in front of everybody
so people can see it. Right, So they'd be right
in front of the water. They have their their football
and they'll be running around and muscles be popping out
everywhere and sun tanned lotion and sweating all this stuff.
(34:11):
Like pause. I mean, I'm just giving y'all a visual
cause I'd be sitting there like, dang, these dudes is
really out here like thirst trapping these people, right, and
then they throw the ball and it's like, oh damn,
I ain't played a day of football in their life.
Then you see the dude catch the ball. Ain't played
down of football in their lives. Built like models like
(34:31):
Tommy Hill, figure models, whatever, but they ain't played no ball,
you know. Anyway, point is like there's a lot of
topics out there that that guy could have focused then on.
But choosing that hill to to start a battle, I
don't it just I mean, for what, it's almost a
(34:57):
laughable conversation to be basically saying that Patrick Mahomes isn't
in the best of shape is fat, and you can't
be prepared or ready to go compete for Super Bowl
looking the way that he looks like, that's a that
to me, that's an asinine argument. It's an asenine discussion.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Listen, there's only one person in the history of this
show that's allowed to fat shame anybody, and that's me. Well,
that's principal Joe Clark. Principal Joe Clark is the only
man who's allowed to fat shame anybody on this show.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
He's been given that, he's been given a pass.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
He's been told that he can do whatever the hell
he wants when it comes to bearing anybody that's got
a little bit of a weight problem, even.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Kids, if he's got a kid, if he's got a.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Kid in school, and that kid in school, that kid
in school, what's it doing.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Hanging out with you?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Boy? You're all seniors. Everyone climbed out instantaneously. Alrighty well, instantaneously.
I want all of you to look at this, slovenly
sloppy boy. Here, slop it boy.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
That's the only guy who's given a pass when it
comes to fat shaming.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Joe Clark.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You are giving the green light whenever you want to
fat shame on this show.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And it can only be that Still.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Still is a chubby dude though Man Still was chubby
in every movie he was in. Man, He's a little
chubby boy. Man Og in the acting game definitely was
always made fun of of the way he was built.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Uh, it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with
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Speaker 6 (36:52):
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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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Speaker 1 (37:53):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer, Lead.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
Lap Good god in everybody.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar. Feels good to be
bad guys, casey missed it. Arizona Cardinals have found a
new way to make some money. They're unveiling the new
program called the Cardinals Premiere Travel, in which they'll provide
their own fans an opportunity to travel to away games.
And they're gonna provide the Team's gonna provide a private flight,
two nights stay in a hotel, a team sponsored tailgate,
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and a welcome reception and other amenities to the game,
all for the cheap cheap price of twenty five hundred
dollars per person.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Nice.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
First game available is gonna be late in the season,
November third, Monday Night football against Dallas.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Damn per game, I'm assuming right.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Awesome, Yep, that's right.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
For the bat twenty five hundred. That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm bad not to.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Fly with with fellow fans. Have a hotel room. That's
not bad at all. It sounds like a bargain a
bargain deal right there for a fan experience.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Oh, there's just one problem. They gotta find fans.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Otherwise.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Has anybody met.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
A I mean, that's a major part of it. That's
a major part of this.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I mean, has anybody outside the state of Arizona met
a Cardinals fan?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Anybody? Never? Never? Once, I've never. I've never seen anybody
and go, hey, is that a Stony CA's jersey? Christ,
look at that. I've never met a Cardinals fan ever,
not one time in my life.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
You dusted off stony case.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I mean, dust, I've never met one. So okay, Yeah,
there's twenty five hundred bucks. And if you can find
them worth the price of admission, I don't blame them.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Go do what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
I mean, I might do it even if I'm not
a Cardinals fan, just because that's the experience of it,
all right, I mean hang out with some Cardinal fans,
you know.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I mean, I love the Phoenix area. We had a
blast out there, Jones.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Maybe you was going to go, I love it, all
of it. It's to their away games.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Jonas, I know, I'm just I was reminiscing about Arizona,
just thinking about.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
The good old day when you floated, when you were
looking for victims, when you were walking across the street.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Lee running a scooter for no reason whatsoever in a
place he doesn't know, like you know your way around,
right Arizona. I stand by that that I was having fun, LaVar.
Was that a worse idea than him trying to cross
the street with the truck on the way to the
Super Bowl a radio row in New Orleans? Him trying
(40:29):
to walk across the street with the truck.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Just Lee has questionable decision making skills. That's that's all
I'll say. And I'll leave at that. And he's comfortable
with it. So as long as he's comfortable with it,
I mean, I guess that's if something were to happen.
It's not like I would be upset because it happened
to him, but I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, i'd be
(40:53):
hoping that he's okay, but i'd be like, yeah, I
could see how that happened.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
You remember, you remember that mountain Lion that got hit on
the freeway out there? Absolutely p twenty two.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
We're gonna call him Lee. Yeah, we're called Lee twenty two.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Lee twenty two.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
He crosses a one way street in New Orleans to
get to Radio Row and LeVar read him the ride damn,
talking to like you're his dad?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Like, Lee, why why you're taking chances like that?
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Why? I mean, it's it's early in the morning like
that dude could be drunk, like he could be half sleep,
his senses might not all the way be up. Why
are gonna even beat up to hit me? You don't know? Lee?
That's there you go, There you go, there you go.
(41:47):
Oh my gosh,
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