December 24, 2025 • 41 mins
On this Wednesday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys talk about the Pro Bowl rosters that were unveiled earlier, and even locate where Santa Claus is. Plus, we get an update to JJ McCarthy's injury, and a Bear edition of ICYMI!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Black and Drag Christmas Eve edition.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We have got a Santa Tracker.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yes, that's right, We're going to update you on the
whereabouts of Santa Claus to let you know, yes, he
is on his way, but how is the journey going.
We're also going to have a conversation about the journey
for one quarterback in the NFC, which again is going
to be coming to a halt because they are injured.
Once again, what does it do moving forward? Remember when
the Pro Bowl was relevant? Well, things have changed, but
(00:31):
we've got stories from the past to get into. We're
also going to have a conversation about the changing landscape
of college football and one coach, one high profile coach,
is not happy about it. Plus, we've got another edition
of in case you missed it, We've got our Midweek Awards,
and the Great Albert Breer stops by. It's all yours
on this Christmas Eve edition of Two Pros and a
Cup of.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Hell Yeah, Black and F and Dract Baby Black and
Drat Da F and drat and f and black, a
whole lot of effing.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Remember Berto, you black dog, you black dog.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It is two pro Joe home, you twenty three and
me came back.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You say you black home?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Hey, lefar if I did a twenty three and me
a Mexican.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
So what are you getting that?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Berto?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
You black dog?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Which is crazy because Mexican ain't even a color, but whatever,
but it is two pros and that black Mexico, you
know like.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
That, Hey where is black? Where are we flying to?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
All depends?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Oh I got a whole bunch of places you could
fly to.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's Mexico, Thank you, Jerry. It is a black and
drag edh yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
God yet here on.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
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Speaker 2 (02:29):
Just so you know, it says ho ho ho effect.
So I thought Santo was gonna hop on and be like,
who what does it say?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Boom boom boom, just so you know, home Christmas, Christmas boom.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So I just want to let everybody know here because
they were wondering, we are going to have a live
Santa tracker throughout the course of the show. We'll check
in on the Santa track.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, just well, never going to see where about Santa
Claus is around the world because he's got a lot
of work to do. And uh, and we're gonna update
where he's at. Obviously he starts off way over there
and that approaches the US later on today through tonight,
and so we will have a live Santa tracker throughout
the course of the show.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think it's pretty interesting that Coca Cola is the
connection there. It's kind of crazy. What do you mean
you all know the story behind Santa.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
With Coca Cola?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Tell me, huh, I'm not gonna do it on it air.
Just look it up. Okay, yeah, look it up.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, hey, listen, it's pretty interesting because there might be
a kid that's up at three am or six am,
and they might be in the car where, you know,
with their parents, and they're going to look at their
parents and be like are they serious, you know, and
could create some drama. So we don't want to do
that on Christmas e. But you know, it is what
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it is.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And taking a look at the Nora Ad Santa Tracker,
he was last spotted at the North Pole.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He is on his journey.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So I'm looking at the gifts already delivered, looking at
twenty seven million thus far. So I mean he's making
good strides here.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I'm local Santa Tracker right now, So let.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Me say not.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I'm looking that out with AI. And they made it
more popular. They didn't invent they didn't invent it, but
they started making it more popular in nineteen thirty one
using ads and stuff like that, popularizing him.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It looks so there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm sorry, Can I ask a question? Sure? Sure, I
know I'm not even part of the show, but I'm
just gonna ask a question.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
What so you're part of the family, Thank you, Cooper.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, that's so nice. So you said the according to
the tracker, he's at the North Pole. Yeah, he was
I spot at the North Pole. But he's already delivered
twenty seven million gifts.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well he's still like I'm looking at who. Well, there's
kids all over the place. I mean, maybe do you
have to go back to like refuel Coop. Do you
do you think that he can fit all those gifts
in one trip. He's got to go back and get
the second. Okay, it's gonna be uh, he's gonna be
rifling through.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So he's got to keep going back. He's got to
keep going back.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Depends like some of the air, I think he does
the the heavier gifts first on the trip.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
He doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I personally think Santa is a freak, you know, So
just keep that one in your hat, you know what
I mean, don't don't you gotta be careful with Santa man,
Like Shorty's been leaving him milk and making him cookies
for a really, really, really long time, and he ain't
eating autumn cookies. He ain't drinking all that milk. So
he got a little bit of extra.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Time since since Coop wants to play grinch.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Here and uh, and spit all over the freak that
is Santa Claus who's simply trying to do his gym.
He's a super fruit. Cooper, I do have the Uh.
I betther it was Jim Carrey on set. I do
have the the last update. He is headed for yell
And Russia in under a minute, So huh, why don't
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you put that in your negative pipe and smoke at Coop.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah, I'm sure there's twenty seven million people and you
well in Russia.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Up to forty million gifts delivered thus far, he said.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Online it says he'll be to us in about twenty
two and a half hours, so that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, I've been so again. We're gonna have updates on
this throughout the course of the show.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I didn't realize he went everywhere in the world, you
know what I mean? Okay, hell yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But by the way, he sees the Bermuda Triangle and
he grabs his crotch and says, screw you, buddy, I'm
flying right through you and you ain't doing a damn
thing about it.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I guess I would say, doesn't doesn't if that were
the case, wouldn't Santa have to guard his grill and
knuckle up to go deliver his gifts.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Some in some places in the world old.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Me, they might look at him and be like, hey, man,
we don't you know, we ain't really into you. I'm
just saying he might have found himself in the wrong
living room trying to deliver some gifts.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Like wait, you do know I'm Santa, right? You disrespect
me like that?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
As that white tax we were talking about, he gets
Jaffrey treatment.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Listen, man, listen, gotta listen. Listen man, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I'm Santa drops down at chimney. You got a problem here, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
We got a problem. Brouh you got you got you
got the wrong chimney.
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Speaker 4 (07:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So the Pro Bowl rosters were announced yesterday in the
NFL for the Pro Bowl Games which is just so
much fun. And you know, Vic Fangio's got some thoughts.
He was asked whether or not Jordan Davis should have
made the Pro Bowl for the Philadelphia Eagles, and he
had this to say about the entire process.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
He should have, for sure. I think they needed to
form a committee for the Pro Bowl. Get a couple
retired coaches, a couple of retired personnel guys, a couple
of retired players that are will take pride in it,
and they name it. Not all everybody and their mother's
got revote.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So Vic Fangio, very upbeat and positive during the holiday season, has.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Been the same for years. Sorry Fangio, it does, yeah, yoh.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It does.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It does feel like the Pro Bowl is one of
the great whiffs of the Roger Goodell era. It seems
like it has gotten less and less interesting and relevant
and prestigious every single year.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And I don't know, I mean, I don't know what
the relevance is anymore other than just making it an award.
It's not so it's like, okay, all Pro is like
and it's it's weird because I guess all Pro well,
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it's so few, there's few of them, so You'll see
a guy like Tom Brady, he doesn't have a crazy
amount of All Pro You'd be like, how does he
not have more All pros? Or you look at Peyton Manning,
You'd be like, how does he not have more First
team All Pros? But I think it's more difficult to
become a first team All Pro than it is to
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become a pro bowler. But a pro bowler still in
representation to your season, basically says.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You're you're an All Star.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
If it's the equivalent of All Pro.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't know if it carries the same weight as
being an All Pro. But being a pro bowler is
very It's prestigious. It's a prestige. It has always been
known as a prestigious distinction to have because it represents
you being one of the elite. You got bonuses connected
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to being a pro bowler. You have, you know, contractual leverage,
you know you have negotiating power if you're a pro bowler.
So there's things that come with the distinction. And so
to me, the game was always the game, and I
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thought the game was for us as players. It was
an opportunity to make more money, but it was an
opportunity to get over the water and be with the
other elite players. Yeah, and to me, that was the
prestige of it as far as the product for for
the fans. People can plained about the Pro Bowl game
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when I was playing, you know, they complained about it like, oh,
they don't play da da da, And they're right. You know,
guys generally started playing hard if it was a competitive
game in the second half, or you come out in
the second half, be like, all right, it's the second halb.
If you're the I can recall being on teams that
were winning.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I was. I think I was on one team where
we were we were down.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
By a ton, I mean a ton, and we came
back in won, and it's that second half. It's the
second half like that used to be really really competitive
because you know, guys will be on the sideline they
start telling you'd be like, hey, man, you know we
get another fifteen twenty g's if we win in this game. Man,
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cas start looking at each other like, yeah, you're right, man.
That bill got to bill pretty high at that hotel
for that Waiki Key trip.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But but here's the thing, like, guys with like the Steelers,
which I love this this tradition about them, the Steelers,
if one of them made the Pro Bowl, their whole
crew came, so at least for the linebackers. So Joey
Porter was making the Pro Bowl, which that's how I
ended up hanging out smoking with the loonies by the way,
which is cool, Like I got the chief with that,
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I got five on it people. But they was all there,
you know, rest of the piece to Clark Hagan's, Like
Clark was there one year, I think, I believe Jason
Gilden made the Pro Bowl and Joey made the Pro
I believe, But the whole linebacking corps was there. So
they were just there chilling and that was That was
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pretty cool that that was there. Like every like, guys
had different traditions. I told you about the rookie tradition
at the Bar. I remember my first year getting there,
and I was so excited because I, you know, obviously
is my first Pro Bowl, and and you hear so
much about the experience of it. So when I got
and I got to my room and got my stuff down,
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and I can hear all the noise in the banter.
I look outside my window and you know, there's a
ton of people at the pool, So why I do
I go running my ass down to the pool, not knowing,
not knowing what I was getting myself into. But I
go down to the pool. I walk up Donovan McNab
and standing you got six foot three, two hundred and
fifty five pounds. He plays for the Washington are Skitting
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formerly known as the Richskins. Duh, super super impactful player.
He hits like a mac truck, but he loved you,
and he's soft in your heart. Everybody give it up
for LeVar everything, and everybody's stopping, start clivving. Yeah, right,
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So that so that you feel real special. You're like, yeah,
you got your chests puffed out. It's like, oh, there's
Peyton Manning over there. Oh there's Willie McGinnis Da da dah.
Oh there's Lorenzo nil Like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you
go sit that the bar da da da, this, that
and the other one. You're not even paying attention because
you're so caught up into the movement of it all.
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And and one of them will hit you up, and
this one was McNab as well. But they'll hit you
up and they'd be like oh yeah, yeah, what's your
room number?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Oh yeah, oh cause the punchline.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
This was the punchline and introduce to levarting the first
rounds on you and everybody would say it together, right,
So you're like all happy about it, like, oh.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, I got the first round, no problem, Da da
dad this and that. So you go up da da da.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Day ask you you know, okay, you know, here's the bill,
Da da dad this that, and like you gotta.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Put your room number on. You put your room number on.
They don't pay no attention to it. Da da da
nae get the.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Going every single time you come down, like during the
course of the week, that's what would happen.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
You had to pay for the first round. So no problem.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
We get to the end of the week and you
get your your bill for the room. My bill was like,
what was it like ten G's. It was like ten
G's Holy And I'm looking at I'm looking at my bill.
I'm looking at my bill. I'm like I don't understand,
like ten G's. I thought this was a paid for deal,
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Da da dad this and that, And I was like
did my family do this?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
You know? I brought my mom, my dad.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
My kid, da da dad, like my family do this,
Like I'm hit my parents up there, like nah, we
paid for everything. I was like, huh, so I'm looking
over I would like go to the front desk cause
I'm like mystified, like and somewhat irate.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I was like, well, why is my bill so high?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Like this is a really really high I could like
this is a car pay like I could buy a
car with it, Like I just don't understand. I started
popping off, and they're like, mister Arrington, see what happens
is is that did you give you a room number
out at any point in time? And I was like, oh,
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then it all starts running back to you like like
the usual suspects, right like he was telling the story
and then you realize he was talking about stuff that
was in the room and he wasn't he wasn't really
talking about things in real life.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You dropped the bug of the floor and said McNab
on the bottom.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And they said McNab on the bottom, bro. And so
what happens is they passed your room. They passed your
room number out, and every time they do a room charge,
they charge it to your room.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Oh no, oh.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, every rookie that so so I went two more.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Times and that was it's real. It's real.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I never did it to anybody, but I knew what
it was and I would be looking at him like, dang,
write a passage, bro, I want to tell you. I
want to tell you. But you got to enjoy it
for what it's worth, because it's part of the experience,
Like like you didn't think that there would be ups
and at the Pro Bowl, but there were, and that
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down was when you looked at that bill, you know,
and so I didn't want to take that away from them.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
The next two years that I.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Went, and so yeah, that was I would watch the
I'd be at the bar, I get there, go to
the bar, da da da, I get introduced. First round
would be on me, you know, anybody who came down.
First round was on you. But my room was safe,
so it was cool. The next two times that I went,
you know, I went as a vet, and it's like,
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you know, they start to expect that you're going to
be there and that's a part of what you have
going on.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
But dang, I see the rookie, I'd be like, man.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I was like, you know, inflation hit it's going to
be a little bit more expensive than it was last year.
Like this dude might get hit for twenty twenty five. Like, man,
good luck with that.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Now you know why people don't go because of injury.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, I don't pay ten thousand dollars to Donovan McNabb.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Can have another Uh maybe something Maybe somebody.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Told situations if I was not made aware of.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It, guess because the thing is.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And by the way, this year, if anybody wondering, is
the Pro Bowl back in Hawaii?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
No, absolutely not know.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It'll be at the Convention Center, the Moscow and Center
in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
That's where the Pro Bowl is going to be at.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's going to be a seven on seven flag football
game with a skills competition attached to it.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's going to be on the Tuesday of Super Bowl Week.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And so I just I look at it and I go,
there's something that's just lacking and less prestigious about it.
And look, congratulations to all the all the players that
got I mean, that's still something you can you can
say moving forward, and you're always going to be known
yourself as a three time Pro Bowler and that carries
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weight that's something, but I can't well, yeah, I think
so I can nowadays.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I was a three time Pro Bowl honestly.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yes, because I I tell you, yeah, because I tell people,
Between you and I, we have three Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So it's important because it does a lot for me.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And so now I look at the way this whole
thing has been constructed and the way it's been operated,
and it just feels like they're just holding on to
it because it's tradition and it's just lacking, like it's
not even. It feels like a blip on the radar,
and it feels like they're just kind of going through
the motions when man, it used to be, as you
(19:26):
pointed out, an opportunity to go to Hawaii, take your friends,
take your family, take you know people there, be celebrated,
be on the beach, you know, play at a Loja stadium,
like all of that was fun and you looked forward
to it. And Roger Goodell had this thought, and this
was him saying this himself that the reason why they
moved the Pro Bowl to a week earlier before the
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Super Bowl was because he didn't like the idea of
the Pro Bowl and exhibition game being the last thing
you saw from that NFL season. And I look at
it and I go, Okay, you understand the theory. You
want the Crescendo to be the super Bowl, to be
the biggest game, but there is something too. Hey, after
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that's all done, let's celebrate everybody, Like, let's celebrate every
team because one of the cool things growing up as
a fan, it was like, man, there's my favorite team,
and how do you know that you can see their
helmet on an NFC jersey or an AFC jersey.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Like they were, well, we wore our helmet.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, it was awesome like that, that was what we wore.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
We wore the we wore the Pro Bowl uniform, but
we wore our helmet.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah. So and they were like jersey giveaways.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
We used to give our helmets away, you know, like
we would trade our helmets. AWESO on your helmet, give
your helmet away, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And now it's just you know, we're gonna go at
the We're gonna step over sleeping bags to get to
the convention center, and then guys are going to play
tiddley winks and which is.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Crazy because people were complaining about having to fly all
the way over to Hawaii. I was, man, I don't
know what y'all got going on after that first while.
I don't know what you're thinking, what's going on in
your mind. I'll take that fab and five, you know,
I'll take that fab and five.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
My buddy told me this one time, and he was
one hundred percent spot on. He said, the great thing
about getting on a flight to Hawaii is that everybody's
in a good mood because nobody's going there on like
a work trip per se. Nobody's going like people are
going there because it's Hawaiian and they're going on vacation.
He's like, you never have to worry about anybody being
angry or antsy or anything like. People going to Hawaii
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are always in a good Mood's it's the best flight
you can take.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Because I was a scumbag back then, I won't hesitate
to admit it.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
And and the island that week was on fire, That's
all I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And I got to use that loosely because I know
there was a fire there in real time. But but yeah,
that that you want to talk about a good time.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I told you I had two rooms.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I'll come.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I had one room.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Where we stayed, and that was where all the players
and the family stayed and where all the you know,
wholesome time took place.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And then you had your space in Wacky Key and
Wacky Key.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Jesus, I told you I was with a girlfriend and
met a new girlfriend while I was at the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
One year.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I talk about that I was with a girlfriend and
met a new girlfriend at the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Lincoln Kennedy told me I was talking to about the
Pro Bowl and I was like, yeah, well, you know,
how was that? Like I was the like I was
the scene, you know, And he said, uh, go back
and watch a Pro Bowl game from Hawaii and just
look at the first two rows behind.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
The bench, everybody got, everybody giving their tickets out.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh yeah, I mean and Navy rocket rocket ship rocket shy.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, they be fine.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Little little high biscus flower behind the ear, you know,
a little little hair piece there.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, they're not all. They're not all locals, They're not all.
But the locals was fine too. The parties like Warren
Moon threw a dope, dope, dope party. I heard his
parties were epic, epic apic, not like Epstein or anything
(23:20):
like that. Just because you gotta be careful with with
stuff like that these days, you know. And he got
caught up at one point no Diddy, but yeah, no Diddy,
no Diddy. It wasn't nothing like that. It was actually
in the public. It was like the It was like
the pre Diddy party, right. It was like the party
Diddy would throw and then be like, all right, now
the party's turning into the Diddy party, the Dittler party.
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It was the pre It was the pre party, like
the one that was on the up and up, where
you walked on the red carpet, took pictures stuff like that.
It was like a who's who That's where I met
Lawrence Taylor for the first time. It was like the
world stood still. I don't I don't fanboy out very often.
There was two times that I, like, really really fanboyed out,
(24:01):
and this was one of Michael Jordan was the other one.
And it blew my mind that I guess it was
three times because when when new audition was out of
basketball game, they're like, Hey, what's up LeVar?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
And I was like, what's up LeVar?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Like I turned and looked around, like what did Ronnie,
Bobby Ricky, Mike, Ralph Johnny and Bobby, like did they
just say what's up?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
LeVar?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Like dapping me out? Like I'd have made it, man,
I'd have made it. But I fan boid out. But
I was walking to go back to the Lani and
I saw I saw him from from Afar and I
was like, man, I know that that shape, like I know.
I was like, that kind of looks like that could
be Lawrence Taylor. And he was getting closer and I
(24:45):
was like hey man, and then he got a little closer.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I was like, bruh. And by the time I got
got it in my head, he was in my face.
I was like, mister.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Taylor, did he have the one earring in the trade?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
No, he did it, he did ross but he was
lt man. I saw him. That was the first time
I ever saw him and METI and like I felt
like a little kid.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Bro. I was like, I didn't even know what to say.
I was like, mister, mister, mister mister Taylor. He's shook
his hand.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
He's top five my favorite player all time for me,
Lawrence Taylor. Yeah, I don't care who he played for.
I don't care that he was unbelievable slot there.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
That's where I met money Line. That's where I met him.
That was pretty cool too. I ain't gonna lie, but
that's like that's almost like the place where it would
have been. It made since right, Like that was like
super big time. Like first time I ever saw him
was at the Pro Bowl and I was a Pro
bowler seeing the goat, So yeah, that was that was
(25:49):
a pretty cool That was a pretty cool experience, super
super cool experience.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So I don't know if they get the same interaction
with one another, I would say that's the most important part.
But let's let's to me, it's like, okay, give them
a five day trip. Make sure it's a five day
trip that you capture the content of it and use
it for like the I don't know, use it for
(26:16):
the beginning of the league year, or use it in
the draft, because ultimately the draft represents the beginning and
the Pro Bowl represents kind of like a rite of passage.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
If you're if you get drafted right.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Draft draftees are the guys that are considered to be
the most elite, So maybe like use the features that
you have front that you record from the Pro Bowl
and use it there.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
But as far as the Pro bowl itself.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Maybe just do a show, right, do a show where
you have these top analysts, you know, talking about the
team and show their highlights, talk about them, you know,
maybe some features like a personal feature, like make it
the length of a game.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And sell it.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I think it would be better to watch the substance
of what those guys did, because some of these guys
you don't know for what it's worth of Some of
them you might have not have really watched them. So
it might give you the opportunity to see who they are.
You might you know, build a new fan off of it.
You know that that could be. That could be how
it works out the best way for them. But this
(27:27):
this all this like this, this kind of gimmicky type stuff,
I think it devalues it quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, I'm with you.
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We'll get into that here on FSR.
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JJ McCarthy, Oh, not so much. Still working on it now.
He has played better his last three games. He missed
that start at Seattle, Max Brosmer got the start and
the Vikings got disintegrated by the Seahawks in that game.
And since then JJ McCarthy has played really good football
(30:14):
for the Vikings and he's done a pretty good job.
But unfortunately you said name up, Well, there's now another issue,
and that issue is not the Yalla horn. That issue
is the fact that JJ McCarthy is going to miss
yet another game because of an injury. Here was his
head coach, Kevin O'Connell talking about the latest issue.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
Give you guys an update, JJ McCarthy. We did continue
to get further imaging beyond the initial X ray and
beyond even the initial MRI, got some further imaging and
it was discovered he does have a very very small
hairline fracture that was discovered in his hand. We are
not expecting to have him this week. I do not
(30:55):
think this is anything that will require surgery. You know,
similar kind of recovery's kind of similar to a bone bruce,
but obviously there is a small hairline fracture in there.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Said it after the game.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
I've been really really happy and proud of the way
JJ through the kind of final stands of the season
here has has really really took some big steps and grown.
And it's been a blast, you know, being with him
every day and kind of being along that ride with him.
Although we've lost you know, time to continue that throughout
the season and and we're you know, experiencing again here
(31:29):
on a fast opportunity type short week. That doesn't take
away from the growth we've seen from JJ. So he's
he's dialed in, he's you know out, he was out
here for the walkthroughs, you know, being a part of
things and wants to stay one hundred percent locked and
loaded in the hopes of returning next week hopefully.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So that was Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings coach, talking about
the latest on JJ. McCarthy's going to miss another start.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
This what hand? Which hand? He said, the hand you
have more than one hand?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Right hand which had throng hand. I believe, yeah, I
mean I can't imagine, you know, that would have.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
This would be the This would be the plan if
it was the left hand, but it was the throwing hand.
They were kind of messing with it on the sideline
and he kind of grimaced it and pulled away, So
obviously you know he was in some pain.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
But my thought on this is.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
At the very least they've got to bring in a
veteran or somebody for next year because you cannot trust
that he's going to be available on the field. This
is similar in a lot of ways to the Anthony
Richardson stuff with the Colts, to where look, there would
be these glimpses of man like there's a lot of
potential here and for some reason just couldn't stay on
(32:41):
the field and look.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
But I mean Anthony Richardson is more of a in
my estimation, a more dramatic like a more dramatic example.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well because has faced on an exercise man in the
locker room.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Well and he was tired after a plane tapped out.
I mean that would probably be where it got is.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Extreme as and he'll never live that down.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
He really won't. But JJ McCarthy, I don't think is
as maybe much considered as much of a wild card,
so to speak out of the two. But you're right,
it is it is a situation where there is a
mystery there that's connected to him, and that mystery is
can he transition into being? And here's where I'll say
(33:28):
the stakes are higher for McCarthy than they were for
Anthony Richardson is that Anthony Richardson was coming in and
there was really the expectation was because he was a
high draft pick. The expectation wasn't because they got rid
of someone of note for him to make way for
him to play. You know, they had that that whole
(33:48):
line of older, older qbs who were playing when Richardson
came in. For McCarthy, you know, you had you had
Kirk Cousins, you had Donald, Daniel Jones, like there were
there were players that they could have chose. They could
have chose to stay with Sam Donald, which now looks
(34:12):
as though they probably should have just stayed with Sam Donald.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Uh so I think that the stakes were higher for
for JJ McCarthy just based off of who was there
and what was you know, the setup for it.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
But but go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Right, no, no, no, no, I mean I think you're
one hundred percent spot on. They really took a gamble
on this, and it appears at least as of now.
And I know Daniel Jones got hurt, But if you're asking,
all right, who's been a better quarterback this year? Sam
Donald or JJ McCarthy? Sam Donald when he was playing,
(34:49):
who was a better quarterback? Daniel Jones or JJ McCarthy,
And it was Daniel Jones. And you know, Kirk Cousins
is playing like it just it just feels like Minnesota.
And we talked about this a couple of weeks ago
that Diana Rassini had reported at the time in the
off season that Minnesota viewed this as a quote three
(35:09):
year window, that this was the year to develop JJ
McCarthy and really make a run at this thing.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
And the problem is.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
You haven't really been able to develop him because he
hasn't been able to stay on the field. There just
feels like something pops up all the time. And I
don't know how if you're a Vikings fan, if you're
a member of that organization, whether you're Quescia Dopa Menza
who's the GM, or Kevin O'Connell, you go into next
year and say, yeah, I know that the plan's working,
Like this is exactly where we want to be. I mean,
(35:38):
justin Jefferson looks like he's I mean, he's frustrated.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
He had a miserable year. Yeah, like a miserable year.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And so that that's where I look at it and
I go, this is not this.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Just has not worked out thus far, and now it
all goes into next year.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
They're probably gonna have to bor I mean, obviously best
case scenario is working out means they're having a mediate
success right now. But maybe it is that third year.
Next year is that third year, and he is now
considered a vat you know, like you said on the
show yesterday, three and a half. That's that's the average
three and a half. So for most guys, they're on
(36:15):
their last year of employment in the league, you know,
isn't it So Yeah, So for him it is a tremendous, tremendously.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Big year, pivotal year for him.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
And sometimes you got to live through the growing pains,
you know, Sometimes that's just what you gotta do. And
guys see things differently, they handle things differently, and you
get the results of what different is. I mean, God,
look at look at Daniel Jones, or look at look
at Sam Darnald. You know, these guys did not have
(36:50):
the careers that they're having. You know, well, at least
Daniel Jones earlier in the year. But Sam Darnald, like
he hasn't set the world on fire, but he certainly
has been a positive contributor to a very successful team,
which I don't think anybody saw this team in the
Seattle Seahawks coming out and being the type of team
that they are this year. So I mean, he's a
(37:12):
he's a main ingredient to two winning seasons. So you
know it just sometimes guys need time. I mean, look
at uh, look at the kid in in Jacksonville right now.
You know, he's he's bawling, and you know it was
kind of is he.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Is Trey at the Trevor the guy? Is he? Is
he not the guy?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Like?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
So you know that's just kind of you know, you
got to see Sea how it's all going to play out.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
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Upset it and a couple of speeches that I've had
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I get drafted here told that I'm not a special player.
I told that I'm not a good fit here. I'm
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Speaker 10 (40:14):
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Speaker 11 (40:14):
I know that's going to keep going on. But you know,
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this organization, be a part of it. My goal isn't
to just get to the playoffs. My goal is to
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I'm gonna keep my head down. I'm gonna keep growing
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That man is colder than the weather in Chicago. Because
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Would have added I'm gonna keep my fingernails, paint it
and polished too, and called everybody bitches after he did it,
I would have I would have been like that as
a mic drop. But he's right. I mean, he's right
those things were said about him.
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underdog brother. You were the number brother, the number one,
and you were a Heisman Trophy winner.
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Like that's very true. But he did cry in his
mama's arms. They did, they did have.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, that was him in the USC.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
They did have a lackluster last year of his time there,
and they did get off to a rough start on
his on his pro career.
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So he ain't wrong.
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I like, I like where he's at and and you
know what, it's a good time to say it because
he's done well, so good for him and continued luck
to him. I'm I'm I'm happy and excited for for
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
We have got a Santa Tracker.
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Yes, that's right, We're going to update you on the
whereabouts of Santa Claus to let you know, yes, he
is on his way, but how is the journey going.
We're also going to have a conversation about the journey
for one quarterback in the NFC, which again is going
to be coming to a halt because they are injured.
Once again, what does it do moving forward? Remember when
the Pro Bowl was relevant? Well, things have changed, but
(00:31):
we've got stories from the past to get into. We're
also going to have a conversation about the changing landscape
of college football and one coach, one high profile coach,
is not happy about it. Plus, we've got another edition
of in case you missed it, We've got our Midweek Awards,
and the Great Albert Breer stops by. It's all yours
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That, Hey where is black? Where are we flying to?
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Speaker 5 (02:37):
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Speaker 2 (02:50):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So I just want to let everybody know here because
they were wondering, we are going to have a live
Santa tracker throughout the course of the show. We'll check
in on the Santa track.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, just well, never going to see where about Santa
Claus is around the world because he's got a lot
of work to do. And uh, and we're gonna update
where he's at. Obviously he starts off way over there
and that approaches the US later on today through tonight,
and so we will have a live Santa tracker throughout
the course of the show.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think it's pretty interesting that Coca Cola is the
connection there. It's kind of crazy. What do you mean
you all know the story behind Santa.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
With Coca Cola?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Tell me, huh, I'm not gonna do it on it air.
Just look it up. Okay, yeah, look it up.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, hey, listen, it's pretty interesting because there might be
a kid that's up at three am or six am,
and they might be in the car where, you know,
with their parents, and they're going to look at their
parents and be like are they serious, you know, and
could create some drama. So we don't want to do
that on Christmas e. But you know, it is what
(04:06):
it is.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And taking a look at the Nora Ad Santa Tracker,
he was last spotted at the North Pole.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He is on his journey.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So I'm looking at the gifts already delivered, looking at
twenty seven million thus far. So I mean he's making
good strides here.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I'm local Santa Tracker right now, So let.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Me say not.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I'm looking that out with AI. And they made it
more popular. They didn't invent they didn't invent it, but
they started making it more popular in nineteen thirty one
using ads and stuff like that, popularizing him.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It looks so there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm sorry, Can I ask a question? Sure? Sure, I
know I'm not even part of the show, but I'm
just gonna ask a question.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
What so you're part of the family, Thank you, Cooper.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, that's so nice. So you said the according to
the tracker, he's at the North Pole. Yeah, he was
I spot at the North Pole. But he's already delivered
twenty seven million gifts.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well he's still like I'm looking at who. Well, there's
kids all over the place. I mean, maybe do you
have to go back to like refuel Coop. Do you
do you think that he can fit all those gifts
in one trip. He's got to go back and get
the second. Okay, it's gonna be uh, he's gonna be
rifling through.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So he's got to keep going back. He's got to
keep going back.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Depends like some of the air, I think he does
the the heavier gifts first on the trip.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
He doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I personally think Santa is a freak, you know, So
just keep that one in your hat, you know what
I mean, don't don't you gotta be careful with Santa man,
Like Shorty's been leaving him milk and making him cookies
for a really, really, really long time, and he ain't
eating autumn cookies. He ain't drinking all that milk. So
he got a little bit of extra.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Time since since Coop wants to play grinch.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Here and uh, and spit all over the freak that
is Santa Claus who's simply trying to do his gym.
He's a super fruit. Cooper, I do have the Uh.
I betther it was Jim Carrey on set. I do
have the the last update. He is headed for yell
And Russia in under a minute, So huh, why don't
(06:16):
you put that in your negative pipe and smoke at Coop.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah, I'm sure there's twenty seven million people and you
well in Russia.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Up to forty million gifts delivered thus far, he said.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Online it says he'll be to us in about twenty
two and a half hours, so that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, I've been so again. We're gonna have updates on
this throughout the course of the show.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I didn't realize he went everywhere in the world, you
know what I mean? Okay, hell yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But by the way, he sees the Bermuda Triangle and
he grabs his crotch and says, screw you, buddy, I'm
flying right through you and you ain't doing a damn
thing about it.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I guess I would say, doesn't doesn't if that were
the case, wouldn't Santa have to guard his grill and
knuckle up to go deliver his gifts.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Some in some places in the world old.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Me, they might look at him and be like, hey, man,
we don't you know, we ain't really into you. I'm
just saying he might have found himself in the wrong
living room trying to deliver some gifts.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Like wait, you do know I'm Santa, right? You disrespect
me like that?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
As that white tax we were talking about, he gets
Jaffrey treatment.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Listen, man, listen, gotta listen. Listen man, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I'm Santa drops down at chimney. You got a problem here, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
We got a problem. Brouh you got you got you
got the wrong chimney.
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Speaker 4 (07:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So the Pro Bowl rosters were announced yesterday in the
NFL for the Pro Bowl Games which is just so
much fun. And you know, Vic Fangio's got some thoughts.
He was asked whether or not Jordan Davis should have
made the Pro Bowl for the Philadelphia Eagles, and he
had this to say about the entire process.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
He should have, for sure. I think they needed to
form a committee for the Pro Bowl. Get a couple
retired coaches, a couple of retired personnel guys, a couple
of retired players that are will take pride in it,
and they name it. Not all everybody and their mother's
got revote.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So Vic Fangio, very upbeat and positive during the holiday season, has.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Been the same for years. Sorry Fangio, it does, yeah, yoh.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It does.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It does feel like the Pro Bowl is one of
the great whiffs of the Roger Goodell era. It seems
like it has gotten less and less interesting and relevant
and prestigious every single year.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And I don't know, I mean, I don't know what
the relevance is anymore other than just making it an award.
It's not so it's like, okay, all Pro is like
and it's it's weird because I guess all Pro well,
(09:20):
it's so few, there's few of them, so You'll see
a guy like Tom Brady, he doesn't have a crazy
amount of All Pro You'd be like, how does he
not have more All pros? Or you look at Peyton Manning,
You'd be like, how does he not have more First
team All Pros? But I think it's more difficult to
become a first team All Pro than it is to
(09:40):
become a pro bowler. But a pro bowler still in
representation to your season, basically says.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You're you're an All Star.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
If it's the equivalent of All Pro.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't know if it carries the same weight as
being an All Pro. But being a pro bowler is
very It's prestigious. It's a prestige. It has always been
known as a prestigious distinction to have because it represents
you being one of the elite. You got bonuses connected
(10:22):
to being a pro bowler. You have, you know, contractual leverage,
you know you have negotiating power if you're a pro bowler.
So there's things that come with the distinction. And so
to me, the game was always the game, and I
(10:43):
thought the game was for us as players. It was
an opportunity to make more money, but it was an
opportunity to get over the water and be with the
other elite players. Yeah, and to me, that was the
prestige of it as far as the product for for
the fans. People can plained about the Pro Bowl game
(11:07):
when I was playing, you know, they complained about it like, oh,
they don't play da da da, And they're right. You know,
guys generally started playing hard if it was a competitive
game in the second half, or you come out in
the second half, be like, all right, it's the second halb.
If you're the I can recall being on teams that
were winning.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I was. I think I was on one team where
we were we were down.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
By a ton, I mean a ton, and we came
back in won, and it's that second half. It's the
second half like that used to be really really competitive
because you know, guys will be on the sideline they
start telling you'd be like, hey, man, you know we
get another fifteen twenty g's if we win in this game. Man,
(11:50):
cas start looking at each other like, yeah, you're right, man.
That bill got to bill pretty high at that hotel
for that Waiki Key trip.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But but here's the thing, like, guys with like the Steelers,
which I love this this tradition about them, the Steelers,
if one of them made the Pro Bowl, their whole
crew came, so at least for the linebackers. So Joey
Porter was making the Pro Bowl, which that's how I
ended up hanging out smoking with the loonies by the way,
which is cool, Like I got the chief with that,
(12:20):
I got five on it people. But they was all there,
you know, rest of the piece to Clark Hagan's, Like
Clark was there one year, I think, I believe Jason
Gilden made the Pro Bowl and Joey made the Pro
I believe, But the whole linebacking corps was there. So
they were just there chilling and that was That was
(12:40):
pretty cool that that was there. Like every like, guys
had different traditions. I told you about the rookie tradition
at the Bar. I remember my first year getting there,
and I was so excited because I, you know, obviously
is my first Pro Bowl, and and you hear so
much about the experience of it. So when I got
and I got to my room and got my stuff down,
(13:02):
and I can hear all the noise in the banter.
I look outside my window and you know, there's a
ton of people at the pool, So why I do
I go running my ass down to the pool, not knowing,
not knowing what I was getting myself into. But I
go down to the pool. I walk up Donovan McNab
and standing you got six foot three, two hundred and
fifty five pounds. He plays for the Washington are Skitting
(13:27):
formerly known as the Richskins. Duh, super super impactful player.
He hits like a mac truck, but he loved you,
and he's soft in your heart. Everybody give it up
for LeVar everything, and everybody's stopping, start clivving. Yeah, right,
(13:47):
So that so that you feel real special. You're like, yeah,
you got your chests puffed out. It's like, oh, there's
Peyton Manning over there. Oh there's Willie McGinnis Da da dah.
Oh there's Lorenzo nil Like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you
go sit that the bar da da da, this, that
and the other one. You're not even paying attention because
you're so caught up into the movement of it all.
(14:08):
And and one of them will hit you up, and
this one was McNab as well. But they'll hit you
up and they'd be like oh yeah, yeah, what's your
room number?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Oh yeah, oh cause the punchline.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
This was the punchline and introduce to levarting the first
rounds on you and everybody would say it together, right,
So you're like all happy about it, like, oh.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, I got the first round, no problem, Da da
dad this and that. So you go up da da da.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Day ask you you know, okay, you know, here's the bill,
Da da dad this that, and like you gotta.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Put your room number on. You put your room number on.
They don't pay no attention to it. Da da da
nae get the.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Going every single time you come down, like during the
course of the week, that's what would happen.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
You had to pay for the first round. So no problem.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
We get to the end of the week and you
get your your bill for the room. My bill was like,
what was it like ten G's. It was like ten
G's Holy And I'm looking at I'm looking at my bill.
I'm looking at my bill. I'm like I don't understand,
like ten G's. I thought this was a paid for deal,
(15:18):
Da da dad this and that, And I was like
did my family do this?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
You know? I brought my mom, my dad.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
My kid, da da dad, like my family do this,
Like I'm hit my parents up there, like nah, we
paid for everything. I was like, huh, so I'm looking
over I would like go to the front desk cause
I'm like mystified, like and somewhat irate.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I was like, well, why is my bill so high?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Like this is a really really high I could like
this is a car pay like I could buy a
car with it, Like I just don't understand. I started
popping off, and they're like, mister Arrington, see what happens
is is that did you give you a room number
out at any point in time? And I was like, oh,
(16:05):
then it all starts running back to you like like
the usual suspects, right like he was telling the story
and then you realize he was talking about stuff that
was in the room and he wasn't he wasn't really
talking about things in real life.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You dropped the bug of the floor and said McNab
on the bottom.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And they said McNab on the bottom, bro. And so
what happens is they passed your room. They passed your
room number out, and every time they do a room charge,
they charge it to your room.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Oh no, oh.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, every rookie that so so I went two more.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Times and that was it's real. It's real.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I never did it to anybody, but I knew what
it was and I would be looking at him like, dang,
write a passage, bro, I want to tell you. I
want to tell you. But you got to enjoy it
for what it's worth, because it's part of the experience,
Like like you didn't think that there would be ups
and at the Pro Bowl, but there were, and that
(17:03):
down was when you looked at that bill, you know,
and so I didn't want to take that away from them.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
The next two years that I.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Went, and so yeah, that was I would watch the
I'd be at the bar, I get there, go to
the bar, da da da, I get introduced. First round
would be on me, you know, anybody who came down.
First round was on you. But my room was safe,
so it was cool. The next two times that I went,
you know, I went as a vet, and it's like,
(17:32):
you know, they start to expect that you're going to
be there and that's a part of what you have
going on.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
But dang, I see the rookie, I'd be like, man.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I was like, you know, inflation hit it's going to
be a little bit more expensive than it was last year.
Like this dude might get hit for twenty twenty five. Like, man,
good luck with that.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Now you know why people don't go because of injury.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, I don't pay ten thousand dollars to Donovan McNabb.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Can have another Uh maybe something Maybe somebody.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Told situations if I was not made aware of.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It, guess because the thing is.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And by the way, this year, if anybody wondering, is
the Pro Bowl back in Hawaii?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
No, absolutely not know.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It'll be at the Convention Center, the Moscow and Center
in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
That's where the Pro Bowl is going to be at.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's going to be a seven on seven flag football
game with a skills competition attached to it.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's going to be on the Tuesday of Super Bowl Week.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And so I just I look at it and I go,
there's something that's just lacking and less prestigious about it.
And look, congratulations to all the all the players that
got I mean, that's still something you can you can
say moving forward, and you're always going to be known
yourself as a three time Pro Bowler and that carries
(18:49):
weight that's something, but I can't well, yeah, I think
so I can nowadays.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I was a three time Pro Bowl honestly.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yes, because I I tell you, yeah, because I tell people,
Between you and I, we have three Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So it's important because it does a lot for me.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And so now I look at the way this whole
thing has been constructed and the way it's been operated,
and it just feels like they're just holding on to
it because it's tradition and it's just lacking, like it's
not even. It feels like a blip on the radar,
and it feels like they're just kind of going through
the motions when man, it used to be, as you
(19:26):
pointed out, an opportunity to go to Hawaii, take your friends,
take your family, take you know people there, be celebrated,
be on the beach, you know, play at a Loja stadium,
like all of that was fun and you looked forward
to it. And Roger Goodell had this thought, and this
was him saying this himself that the reason why they
moved the Pro Bowl to a week earlier before the
(19:48):
Super Bowl was because he didn't like the idea of
the Pro Bowl and exhibition game being the last thing
you saw from that NFL season. And I look at
it and I go, Okay, you understand the theory. You
want the Crescendo to be the super Bowl, to be
the biggest game, but there is something too. Hey, after
(20:09):
that's all done, let's celebrate everybody, Like, let's celebrate every
team because one of the cool things growing up as
a fan, it was like, man, there's my favorite team,
and how do you know that you can see their
helmet on an NFC jersey or an AFC jersey.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Like they were, well, we wore our helmet.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, it was awesome like that, that was what we wore.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
We wore the we wore the Pro Bowl uniform, but
we wore our helmet.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah. So and they were like jersey giveaways.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
We used to give our helmets away, you know, like
we would trade our helmets. AWESO on your helmet, give
your helmet away, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And now it's just you know, we're gonna go at
the We're gonna step over sleeping bags to get to
the convention center, and then guys are going to play
tiddley winks and which is.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Crazy because people were complaining about having to fly all
the way over to Hawaii. I was, man, I don't
know what y'all got going on after that first while.
I don't know what you're thinking, what's going on in
your mind. I'll take that fab and five, you know,
I'll take that fab and five.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
My buddy told me this one time, and he was
one hundred percent spot on. He said, the great thing
about getting on a flight to Hawaii is that everybody's
in a good mood because nobody's going there on like
a work trip per se. Nobody's going like people are
going there because it's Hawaiian and they're going on vacation.
He's like, you never have to worry about anybody being
angry or antsy or anything like. People going to Hawaii
(21:27):
are always in a good Mood's it's the best flight
you can take.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Because I was a scumbag back then, I won't hesitate
to admit it.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
And and the island that week was on fire, That's
all I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And I got to use that loosely because I know
there was a fire there in real time. But but yeah,
that that you want to talk about a good time.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I told you I had two rooms.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I'll come.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I had one room.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Where we stayed, and that was where all the players
and the family stayed and where all the you know,
wholesome time took place.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And then you had your space in Wacky Key and
Wacky Key.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Jesus, I told you I was with a girlfriend and
met a new girlfriend while I was at the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
One year.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I talk about that I was with a girlfriend and
met a new girlfriend at the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Lincoln Kennedy told me I was talking to about the
Pro Bowl and I was like, yeah, well, you know,
how was that? Like I was the like I was
the scene, you know, And he said, uh, go back
and watch a Pro Bowl game from Hawaii and just
look at the first two rows behind.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
The bench, everybody got, everybody giving their tickets out.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh yeah, I mean and Navy rocket rocket ship rocket shy.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, they be fine.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Little little high biscus flower behind the ear, you know,
a little little hair piece there.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, they're not all. They're not all locals, They're not all.
But the locals was fine too. The parties like Warren
Moon threw a dope, dope, dope party. I heard his
parties were epic, epic apic, not like Epstein or anything
(23:20):
like that. Just because you gotta be careful with with
stuff like that these days, you know. And he got
caught up at one point no Diddy, but yeah, no Diddy,
no Diddy. It wasn't nothing like that. It was actually
in the public. It was like the It was like
the pre Diddy party, right. It was like the party
Diddy would throw and then be like, all right, now
the party's turning into the Diddy party, the Dittler party.
(23:41):
It was the pre It was the pre party, like
the one that was on the up and up, where
you walked on the red carpet, took pictures stuff like that.
It was like a who's who That's where I met
Lawrence Taylor for the first time. It was like the
world stood still. I don't I don't fanboy out very often.
There was two times that I, like, really really fanboyed out,
(24:01):
and this was one of Michael Jordan was the other one.
And it blew my mind that I guess it was
three times because when when new audition was out of
basketball game, they're like, Hey, what's up LeVar?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
And I was like, what's up LeVar?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Like I turned and looked around, like what did Ronnie,
Bobby Ricky, Mike, Ralph Johnny and Bobby, like did they
just say what's up?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
LeVar?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Like dapping me out? Like I'd have made it, man,
I'd have made it. But I fan boid out. But
I was walking to go back to the Lani and
I saw I saw him from from Afar and I
was like, man, I know that that shape, like I know.
I was like, that kind of looks like that could
be Lawrence Taylor. And he was getting closer and I
(24:45):
was like hey man, and then he got a little closer.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I was like, bruh. And by the time I got
got it in my head, he was in my face.
I was like, mister.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Taylor, did he have the one earring in the trade?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
No, he did it, he did ross but he was
lt man. I saw him. That was the first time
I ever saw him and METI and like I felt
like a little kid.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Bro. I was like, I didn't even know what to say.
I was like, mister, mister, mister mister Taylor. He's shook
his hand.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
He's top five my favorite player all time for me,
Lawrence Taylor. Yeah, I don't care who he played for.
I don't care that he was unbelievable slot there.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
That's where I met money Line. That's where I met him.
That was pretty cool too. I ain't gonna lie, but
that's like that's almost like the place where it would
have been. It made since right, Like that was like
super big time. Like first time I ever saw him
was at the Pro Bowl and I was a Pro
bowler seeing the goat, So yeah, that was that was
(25:49):
a pretty cool That was a pretty cool experience, super
super cool experience.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So I don't know if they get the same interaction
with one another, I would say that's the most important part.
But let's let's to me, it's like, okay, give them
a five day trip. Make sure it's a five day
trip that you capture the content of it and use
it for like the I don't know, use it for
(26:16):
the beginning of the league year, or use it in
the draft, because ultimately the draft represents the beginning and
the Pro Bowl represents kind of like a rite of passage.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
If you're if you get drafted right.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Draft draftees are the guys that are considered to be
the most elite, So maybe like use the features that
you have front that you record from the Pro Bowl
and use it there.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
But as far as the Pro bowl itself.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Maybe just do a show, right, do a show where
you have these top analysts, you know, talking about the
team and show their highlights, talk about them, you know,
maybe some features like a personal feature, like make it
the length of a game.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And sell it.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I think it would be better to watch the substance
of what those guys did, because some of these guys
you don't know for what it's worth of Some of
them you might have not have really watched them. So
it might give you the opportunity to see who they are.
You might you know, build a new fan off of it.
You know that that could be. That could be how
it works out the best way for them. But this
(27:27):
this all this like this, this kind of gimmicky type stuff,
I think it devalues it quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
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(27:56):
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And since then JJ McCarthy has played really good football
(30:14):
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But unfortunately you said name up, Well, there's now another issue,
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Speaker 10 (30:34):
Give you guys an update, JJ McCarthy. We did continue
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it was discovered he does have a very very small
hairline fracture that was discovered in his hand. We are
not expecting to have him this week. I do not
(30:55):
think this is anything that will require surgery. You know,
similar kind of recovery's kind of similar to a bone bruce,
but obviously there is a small hairline fracture in there.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Said it after the game.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
I've been really really happy and proud of the way
JJ through the kind of final stands of the season
here has has really really took some big steps and grown.
And it's been a blast, you know, being with him
every day and kind of being along that ride with him.
Although we've lost you know, time to continue that throughout
the season and and we're you know, experiencing again here
(31:29):
on a fast opportunity type short week. That doesn't take
away from the growth we've seen from JJ. So he's
he's dialed in, he's you know out, he was out
here for the walkthroughs, you know, being a part of
things and wants to stay one hundred percent locked and
loaded in the hopes of returning next week hopefully.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So that was Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings coach, talking about
the latest on JJ. McCarthy's going to miss another start.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
This what hand? Which hand? He said, the hand you
have more than one hand?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Right hand which had throng hand. I believe, yeah, I
mean I can't imagine, you know, that would have.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
This would be the This would be the plan if
it was the left hand, but it was the throwing hand.
They were kind of messing with it on the sideline
and he kind of grimaced it and pulled away, So
obviously you know he was in some pain.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
But my thought on this is.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
At the very least they've got to bring in a
veteran or somebody for next year because you cannot trust
that he's going to be available on the field. This
is similar in a lot of ways to the Anthony
Richardson stuff with the Colts, to where look, there would
be these glimpses of man like there's a lot of
potential here and for some reason just couldn't stay on
(32:41):
the field and look.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
But I mean Anthony Richardson is more of a in
my estimation, a more dramatic like a more dramatic example.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well because has faced on an exercise man in the
locker room.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Well and he was tired after a plane tapped out.
I mean that would probably be where it got is.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Extreme as and he'll never live that down.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
He really won't. But JJ McCarthy, I don't think is
as maybe much considered as much of a wild card,
so to speak out of the two. But you're right,
it is it is a situation where there is a
mystery there that's connected to him, and that mystery is
can he transition into being? And here's where I'll say
(33:28):
the stakes are higher for McCarthy than they were for
Anthony Richardson is that Anthony Richardson was coming in and
there was really the expectation was because he was a
high draft pick. The expectation wasn't because they got rid
of someone of note for him to make way for
him to play. You know, they had that that whole
(33:48):
line of older, older qbs who were playing when Richardson
came in. For McCarthy, you know, you had you had
Kirk Cousins, you had Donald, Daniel Jones, like there were
there were players that they could have chose. They could
have chose to stay with Sam Donald, which now looks
(34:12):
as though they probably should have just stayed with Sam Donald.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Uh so I think that the stakes were higher for
for JJ McCarthy just based off of who was there
and what was you know, the setup for it.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
But but go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Right, no, no, no, no, I mean I think you're
one hundred percent spot on. They really took a gamble
on this, and it appears at least as of now.
And I know Daniel Jones got hurt, But if you're asking,
all right, who's been a better quarterback this year? Sam
Donald or JJ McCarthy? Sam Donald when he was playing,
(34:49):
who was a better quarterback? Daniel Jones or JJ McCarthy,
And it was Daniel Jones. And you know, Kirk Cousins
is playing like it just it just feels like Minnesota.
And we talked about this a couple of weeks ago
that Diana Rassini had reported at the time in the
off season that Minnesota viewed this as a quote three
(35:09):
year window, that this was the year to develop JJ
McCarthy and really make a run at this thing.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
And the problem is.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
You haven't really been able to develop him because he
hasn't been able to stay on the field. There just
feels like something pops up all the time. And I
don't know how if you're a Vikings fan, if you're
a member of that organization, whether you're Quescia Dopa Menza
who's the GM, or Kevin O'Connell, you go into next
year and say, yeah, I know that the plan's working,
Like this is exactly where we want to be. I mean,
(35:38):
justin Jefferson looks like he's I mean, he's frustrated.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
He had a miserable year. Yeah, like a miserable year.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And so that that's where I look at it and
I go, this is not this.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Just has not worked out thus far, and now it
all goes into next year.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
They're probably gonna have to bor I mean, obviously best
case scenario is working out means they're having a mediate
success right now. But maybe it is that third year.
Next year is that third year, and he is now
considered a vat you know, like you said on the
show yesterday, three and a half. That's that's the average
three and a half. So for most guys, they're on
(36:15):
their last year of employment in the league, you know,
isn't it So Yeah, So for him it is a tremendous, tremendously.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Big year, pivotal year for him.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
And sometimes you got to live through the growing pains,
you know, Sometimes that's just what you gotta do. And
guys see things differently, they handle things differently, and you
get the results of what different is. I mean, God,
look at look at Daniel Jones, or look at look
at Sam Darnald. You know, these guys did not have
(36:50):
the careers that they're having. You know, well, at least
Daniel Jones earlier in the year. But Sam Darnald, like
he hasn't set the world on fire, but he certainly
has been a positive contributor to a very successful team,
which I don't think anybody saw this team in the
Seattle Seahawks coming out and being the type of team
that they are this year. So I mean, he's a
(37:12):
he's a main ingredient to two winning seasons. So you
know it just sometimes guys need time. I mean, look
at uh, look at the kid in in Jacksonville right now.
You know, he's he's bawling, and you know it was
kind of is he.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Is Trey at the Trevor the guy? Is he? Is
he not the guy?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Like?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
So you know that's just kind of you know, you
got to see Sea how it's all going to play out.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
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Speaker 11 (39:56):
Upset it and a couple of speeches that I've had
before that you know, wasn't the biggest, I wasn't the strongest,
I wasn't the tallest, fastest, whatever the case may be,
I get drafted here told that I'm not a special player.
I told that I'm not a good fit here. I'm
told that, you know, coach and I won't work. I've
told you know I can't win here.
Speaker 10 (40:14):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (40:14):
I know that's going to keep going on. But you know,
I do take a little satisfaction and and things like that,
and you know, being able to help this team, help
this organization, be a part of it. My goal isn't
to just get to the playoffs. My goal is to
win and win and win big. And so you know,
I'm gonna keep my head down. I'm gonna keep growing
for the guys in this building, for the coaches and
(40:35):
things like that, for this organization, and and and for
the city to be able to be proud and happy
to be fans and supporters of Chicago bears.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
That man is colder than the weather in Chicago. Because
I mean, if he.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Would have added I'm gonna keep my fingernails, paint it
and polished too, and called everybody bitches after he did it,
I would have I would have been like that as
a mic drop. But he's right. I mean, he's right
those things were said about him.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
But like I've been doubted, I've been this, I've been
underdog brother. You were the number brother, the number one,
and you were a Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Like that's very true. But he did cry in his
mama's arms. They did, they did have.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, that was him in the USC.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
They did have a lackluster last year of his time there,
and they did get off to a rough start on
his on his pro career.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
So he ain't wrong.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
I like, I like where he's at and and you
know what, it's a good time to say it because
he's done well, so good for him and continued luck
to him. I'm I'm I'm happy and excited for for
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