June 19, 2024 • 38 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys wrap a bow on the NBA Finals. Willie Mays passes away at 92. David Bakhtiari talks about his rehab and desire to play for years to come. Plus, “ICYMI.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here coming up on
this Wednesday edition. Yeah, there's more fallout from the NBA Finals,
like who wasn't there that's probably got a red ass
about not being a part of it. Plus, we're going
to talk about some training camp news like no shows
and potential lies in the NFL. What is the very
latest on David Bakhtiari's career. We're also going to hear
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about optimism regarding Deshaun Watson. We've got another edition of
In case you missed it, We've got our Midweek Awards,
and we got the old Pea stop of by It's
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me the look you give me pull when I pull
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into the parking lot?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Oh my gosh, why do I give you the look
that I give you?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
You just shaking your head every time I roll in
the parking Because every time you one more day with
that truck is one more time for you to get
that look from me.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I'm going to shame look you until you get a
different vehicle, bro, That's why.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, but with the vehicle comes the theme song. I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
No, I don't think we lose the theme song because
that's that theme song is the essence of who you are.
That's not just your truck. So once the truck is gone,
that's just like a memory of you know something, that
physical representation of who you are. The song is who
you are.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Damn. Yeah. Man, Well, I.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Hope you get a new vehicle soon, though I don't
like you don't need to have your in laws always
coming over to fish. That is not the reason why
you should marry. You shouldn't marry for for vehicle, you know,
assistance and maintenance. It's not okay, it's not okay, man,
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good we're going for it this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You're going for it. But you know what, I don't
even know what you're talking about. Well, look is what
it is, and we will. We will figure that out
at some point and eventually, at some point, probably soon,
that'll be a conversation that has had. I was thinking
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about this though, because obviously we put a bow on
the NBA Finals. We did, and it's over. Season is over.
The Celtics are in Miami doing god knows what. They're
probably still awake right now. Like if they went to
Miami to party for a few days before the parade,
I would say, what's the is it eleven? Is that
the club in Miami that that's opened twenty four hours
a day. I mean, they're they're probably, yeah, they're probably
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tearing it up as we speak, on a full blown bender.
And then you got the parade coming up on Friday.
I believe that's going to be a mess. I mean
they're gonna be throwing booze at them left and right,
like the whole thing is gonna be fun to watch.
But I was thinking about this if you're one of
the exes, how you feeling like if you're somebody like
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Marcus Smart, who had been there his entire career, had
been close, played in the finals a couple of years ago,
and then you get traded away the off season before
they finally win an NBA championship, How the hell do
you think that's sitting with him? That's gotta suck. Were
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you part of the problem? Were you holding them back?
I mean you got to have some little self accountability there,
you know, some introspective moments. I don't know. I mean,
you were two games away from winning the finals two
years ago with him, You were in a game seven
of the Eastern Conference finals last year like Jared.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Goff right, like GoF you make it to the super Bowl,
you just weren't good enough.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
To win it. That's got a bit like how would
that look? Like? How would that? Because you were with
the Giants but you retired and then they ended up
then they.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Went, So it's like, was I just not good enough
for us? But I actually got hurt? So I wasn't.
I wasn't participating enough to matter.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, But it was also they made a decision to
move on from those guys like a Marcus Smarter, Jared
Goff you retired well.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So yeah, yeah, it was kind of both though both full.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Like em Udoka who was the head coach of the
Celtics a couple of years ago, and there in the
finals and.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Then he's the one that probably feels like crap, honestly,
I mean because because I mean really was what was
what you're doing was worth you sacrificing where this team
is now. I don't let me see how she looks.
Hold on, yeah, I don't. I would venture to say
it probably wasn't worth it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
No, I mean you were in a dope relationship with
you know, and I don't like getting into that type
of personal business. All I'm gonna say is because I
was really about to go.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Down that lane. What yeah, I'm not going to do
why not, I'm not going to do it. I'm not
going to jump, You're going I'm not going to Uh.
I'll just say this. He's probably sitting somewhere sick like
that was my team and well, and there was a
lot of people that were saying last year when they
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came up short that a lot of the things that
he specialized in defense is where they sort of fell
apart last year. And that's why, you know, Joe Missoula
got so much heat and there was so much pressure
on him because it was like, ude, he may Udoka
had this team two games away from an NBA championship
and you just were underwhelming in big time spots all year.
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And so the thought was, with emy Udoka, with last
year's team, a year experience, another year experience for Tatum
and all those guys being in the finals the year before,
maybe that's an NBA Finals team again. And then they
came up short in Game seven, and the thought was, well,
with emy Udoka, that team would have gone farther than
what they did last year. And so yeah, he's one
(08:02):
of those guys who's probably sitting there going, damn, man,
like do you just not watch? Do you not turn
on the TV? Do you not?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Like I remember watching the Super Bowl that next year,
I would have gotten slaughtered during that game. I was
pretty sick, like I was like, damn, we're going to lose.
And for some reason, I was like, you know, I
was like I felt better, like we're not winning this
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game the entire time pretty much. So I'm watching it
and it's like, I'm sick that I didn't get a chance.
I was that close to being on a team that
was going to play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But I'm sitting there.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I was like, man, it's my luck, like i'd be there,
and it's just like, what's going on right now.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
We're losing to a team that's going to go undefeeded.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
They're going to go undefeed it, and you know, here's
what it looks like if I'm playing out there in
my mind and then they win.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh, it's like damn.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Like you know, the team that I was supposed to
be on this year for my second year in the contract,
and with the team I leave and they woul in
the Super Bowl, and they do it in a fashion
that is one of the most memorable fashions. The helmet
catch plexico icing them at the end of the game,
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and Tom Brady and company, Randy Moss, they were undefeated.
You knocked off the undefeated New England Patriots. And for
what it's worth, if we want to take it a
step further, I had a seven year contract, so I
would have been there for two super Bowls. I would
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have got two super Bowls if it plays out. I'm
healthy and we're playing this, that and the other two
super Bowls. So yeah, I can understand, you know, the
feeling of what it feels like to see a team
that you were on win it the very next year
you're not on the team. And I didn't have, like,
I don't I doubt Marcus Smart sitting somewhere like feeling
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as though, like, God, this team was you know, you know,
going to be better off without me or anything like that.
I don't. I don't think. I don't think you have
the thought process. I know I didn't have the thought
process like, yeah, you know they would have been better
with me type deal. I didn't feel that way. And
maybe it was just because of where I was at
(10:28):
my career, but I just I wasn't looking at them like,
you know, this team isn't going to be as good
without me. I mean, I may I made what five
games with them, and they ended up going to the
playoffs still that year. So the very next year then
they come back and they win it all. I mean,
you can have feelings, You could have feelings towards it,
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because that would piss me off, man, especially if you
don't have any you don't have any championships, you know
you don't. That's like something that you want. It's like
one of the main things that you want. Like people ask,
do you want to have personal awards or do you
want to have team awards? You know why, you would
love to have personal awards, you know, get Pro Bowls
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or being All Pro and stuff like that, be recognized
for how well you play. I ultimately fall on the
side of probably most guys I play football. You want
those team awards, not me. I want to win the
Super Bowl, man. I want to play for the super Bowl.
I want to play in the super Bowl. I want
to try to win the Super Bowl. I want to
win the Super Bowl. I'd rather have I'd rather have
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six seven Super Bowl rings and know that I contribute
it the way that I did, versus have a whole
bunch of All Pros and Pro Bowls with no real
success as a team.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah what Kobe Bryant say, There's no I in team,
but there's no me. Yeah, that's why I roll. I'm
like Eric dickers I'm like Eric Dickerson with a say
would you give up your Hall of Fame ring for
a Super Bowl ring. He's like, absolutely not, Oh no,
I would not. I'm good here. I just I wonder though, Yeah,
but he doesn't have any Super Bowls. Because I'll tell
you this right now, if I was Marcus Smart, not
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only would I have been rooting against the Celtics in
the NBA playoffs, I would have risked my career to
gamble against them and get caught just because I was
that much of a red ass about them dealing me
away when they did. And listen, they've been kind and
pleasant and with their compliments about him, you know, in
his time there, and he was a great Celtic and
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he had a great run, and there's a lot of
great moments. He he actually was the glue that kept that
team together when there was a lot of times they
came up short. But damn you put in all that time,
you hustled, he was diving on the floor like he
was a Celtic and then the very next season they
win a championship. I just was holding them back, like
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I just wonder. I just wonder. That's gotta be a
rough and a tough pill to swallow. But nonetheless, that'll
conclude our coverage of the NBA this year. We will
talk to you again coming up in October. Or unless
you know, Brownie James goes number one overall and we're
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LeVar Arrington, Jonas NOx with you here. We are going
to have another edition of In Case You missed It
coming up later on this hour, And in this edition
of In Case You Missed It, we've got something that
just got a hell of a lot more interesting in
the world of sports. Uh you know, a nice a
nice consolation prize if you will, that'll be yours here
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again a little over twenty minutes from now. If you've
ever been caught in a room like a waiting room,
whether it be a doctor's office, you know, a car dealership, whatever,
and you see somebody has some really bizarre show or
movie on television, imagine that multiplied by four. And that's
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what LeVar and I are dealing with currently in the
studio right now, these tiraq dot com studios, because ira
dot com, what the hell has been on television? And
what have people been watching? Here? I know the NBA
Finals are over. You don't have to have charmed on
thinking TNT is gonna have an NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I mean some.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Two monitors on top of that, charmed on two televisions.
Me that's charmed overload. One is Charmed overload.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's a lot and then there was some guy getting
his eyeball removed in a mood.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It wasn't getting removed. He was grabbing it hisself. He
was pulling his own eyeball out.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Lee, what was the movie that where the guy wasning? Well,
it's still on.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
It's called Talk to Me, horror movie from Australia last year,
a twenty.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Four and they still have it on for some reason. Yeah,
he rips his eyeball. I mean, look at this good
movie at the start. Well, can y'all do it? It's
a good movie on your own time. It's a good movie. No,
it's not your time. Try to educate you. No, you're not.
And I don't want this education. I don't want it.
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You want this Jonus? Do you want it? Really?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
But you know what I know, Lee? Does I know
that must be it must be a certain scene of
some sort. I mean, it's better. Now we've got NFL network,
we got h we got ESPN, we got we got
the Weather channel on now so.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
We had last night. Oh jeez, here we go. I
told you, Sola, all right, listen, we are going to
get this figured out. I wouldn't uh, I would like
to say this. Uh. Rest in peace the Great Willie
Mays passed away yesterday. There are certain statistics that you hear,
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are certain facts, like sports facts that come out that
you hear and you go, you know, wait what. Like
I remember the first time I heard that mark Ingram
was the first Alabama player to win the Heisman Trophy,
and I thought, wait, really, like oh nine, Like it
just it didn't even make sense to me. I thought, man,
Alabama is a great program all that, but it was
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like one of those things to where you hear it
and you go that doesn't even Like we've talked about
Barry Sanders college stats, like you just you hear it
and you go, wait what. Willie Mays was an All
Star twenty four times.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Hey, bro, dude, I thought, I'm guilty of thinking that
will I thought Willie Mays was already gone. No, I
had no idea he was still I mean, I had
no idea he was still alive. Like the name is
such a legendary name.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's like.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
It's like certain names you hear you just think that
they're already gone. Like if her, you know, I'd be
like them saying like Babe Ruth or or Jackie Robinson
just passed away. I thought I mean, that's those are
the names that you hear when you hear Willie Mays.
I ain't you know Hank Aaron he just passed away
not too long ago, the like during COVID. Yeah, I
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just said I didn't think he was still here, So
I mean, I just I don't know. They So he
was ninety one ninety four.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, they broke into all over Major League baseball and
everybody was giving him a standing ovation because you watch
some of his highlights and you go, oh, that would
work today, Like he was that far ahead of his time.
So twenty four time, like think about you were a
three time pro bowler, imagine that time's eight. It's unbelievable,
like he just it's incredible.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Clearity many is the key to being you know, recognized
the way that you are.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Twelve Gold Gloves.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
World Series, some say some, I mean some people argue
a debate, you know, and within the baseball circles him
being the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, as far as a skill set, like a like
a five tool player, like but well before or anybody
was really a five tool player, he was unbelievable, like unbelievable.
So rest in peace to the great Willie Mays who
passed away yesterday and was celebrated around Major League Baseball inappropriately.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
So and they said he went peacefully, which is I mean,
you can only that's all you could really ask for. Yeah,
live a long, good life, and then at ninety four,
you go peacefully like you didn't have to struggle or
deal with like, you know, crazy illnesses or anything like that.
I hope that's the way I go, man.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Honestly, it is a shots out respect though, man, absolutely
it is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas knocks with you.
So David Baktiari, former packle, former Packers off pack Yeah,
thank you, former Packers offensive tackle. He we haven't really
(20:51):
seen a lot of it lately. He is no longer
Remember the Green Bay Packers. He suffered the knee injury.
There was a setback. He just couldn't get right. When
he did come back, it didn't feel right, it didn't
seem right. He's not been the same player. This guy
was an All Pro tackle in Green Bay. Just a
great player at his position, one of the best at
his position. He recently spoke on the Adam Schefter podcast
(21:13):
about his goals to try and come back to the NFL.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 8 (21:17):
A lot of other people wanted me just to kind
of grit through it, but no one experiences when you
truly experienced. I'm like, look, I've been grit doing.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It for three years. I'm in constant pain.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
I'm so happy now to be on the other side
of it and get the actual thirdyar that I needed
because my knee was not in a good place. My
goal right now is just to make sure that I'm
I not only fully recover, but I can withstand and
play the game that I want to play, but also
play and be there for a team no matter what,
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and not just I'm not I mean, I'm not a
reliever guy. I am your cornerstone guy and someone that's
gonna ho only play from September, but into February and
then obviously hopefully for another couple of years.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So that was David boc TIERREI talking with Adam Schefter
and this like, he's one of those guys that I
look at because he signed his big deal in Green
Bay and I think it was within two to three
weeks after that when he suffered the injury. So it
was right before he got his big payday and has
just not been the same player since. But he's one
of those guys that I look at. I think he's
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made a little over one hundred and twenty six million
dollars in his career. He's obviously dealing with the health
and the injuries. He's a free agent for a reason
because there's probably teams that are skeptical. Skepticals to see
whether or not he can come back and play at
a high level or a level that can be a
starting level or a rotational guy in the NFL. But
he's one of those guys like a Sam Bradford who
(22:42):
had all the money, didn't need to keep coming back,
but continued to try because he wants to end his
career on the right note. And he talked about that
later in the podcast, just I I don't want anybody
else to write my story. I want the opportunity to
finish my career the way I want to finish it.
So I hope it works out for him that he's
still giving it a go with all the injuries and
(23:03):
with all that money in the bank, just tells you
this guy loves football. Man. Oh I'm just saying. I mean,
I can see that that.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You know, a lot of guys don't get to write
their story the way they want to write their story,
with how their career goes. I mean, sometimes when it's over,
it's over, and it sounds like it's over for him.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Jeez.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Knees are are a funny it's a funny thing, bro
And when they don't get healthy and they're not healthy
for a long time, you know it's going to come
down to what he can tolerate and how he's able
to perform with his new norm with how his knee is.
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And then the question becomes to me, how much are
you damaging yourself for the rest of your life? Like
at some point you got to take a step back
and you just got to be like, my body has
not held up the way that I would like for
it to hold up. It's not about somebody writing your
(24:09):
story and you not being able to write your story.
Your story is your story. If you want to write
a different story, write your own book, do your own
do your own thing and telling your own story that
you know, the platforms out here are are now so
it's such a commonality, a norm for player voices. You
(24:33):
don't have to worry about somebody else writing your your story.
Like like you said, you've you've had success, you've made money.
I mean, what's wrong with with preserving your what's left
of what you got going on?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
With your need?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
You said, you've got it surgically repaired the surgery that
you needed.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean, how old is he? What year? What year
is this? I got going on ten? But last last
couple he hasn't.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Really I mean the averages what three and a half? Yeah,
the average lifespan of an NFL career is that three
and a half years, and you're at right at you know,
is it ten nine or ten?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah? Came in the league at twenty thirteen. Since twenty twenty,
he's started thirteen games. So he's just not He's just not. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Sometimes, I mean, listen, a lot of guys loved the game.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I loved the game.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I mean I had lost a little love of it
just because of the politics I had to deal with
in DC. But I still loved playing the game. And
you know, I had an injury. I had an achilles injury,
and it was very painful, and I just didn't want
to keep going through that, Like you go through a surgery, man,
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there's something that that's something you gotta deal with, like
mentally and emotionally. You know, a lot of times we
talk about and I've talked about this like a long
time ago, about the idea of how people recover. It's
the most interesting phenomenon that I think exists in sports
(26:20):
is that in recovery, you do surgery on the body
part that needs needs surgery surgically repairing. You do the
rehab and all this physical activity to try to get
that body part back to where it once was or
it's closed. Sometimes they say even better, but you really
(26:44):
never do the type of rehab and the type of
surgical procedure, which I don't think you had to do
a surgery surgery, But when you think about it, how
do you repair the emotional and the mental aspect that
takes place every time you have one of these major
injuries and you don't hear about that, there's got to
(27:05):
be a depression that comes along with bro I'm telling you,
you go through a lot of different emotions when when
you're coming back from from an injury and a surgery
at that and and it's like you're getting measured and
you're being weighed on your health by physical measurements. How
(27:25):
much weight can that that ligament or that joint handle
or you know, how how long can you run for?
What's what's the you know, the durability, you know the
kind of the you know having having uh, you know
what is it? Uh when you build up you know, stamina,
(27:45):
the stamina of what you have going on. But nobody
ever really takes into account mentally where that person is,
emotionally where that person is, and there's not very much
to do. Like trainers talk to you, you have conversations,
but if you think about it in comparison to what
(28:07):
you're doing to physically get somebody prepared to come back
versus what you're doing for them mentally for them to
come back, it's very very different, you know. And so
if I'm David.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Back back back, back back.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Tari, I don't I don't see how you love the
game so much that you're willing to risk your long
term your long term health over trying to come back
when you've done.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I mean, doesn't he was he all wanted he made
a Super Bowl appearance. No, he came after Yeah, it
was right after that because after the loss he came
in twenty thirteen, and they well they won the Super
Bowl in twenty eleven. It was there two years afterwards,
and they had never gone back to the Super Yeah,
I mean still even yet. Still.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
I just think sometimes you just got to know when
to hold them and know when to fold them and
know when to walk away, you know. And that's it
sounds like that's where he's at in his career. I mean,
it could be considered to be a valiant effort to
try to come back and play more, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
See it that way. Oh here, I just see it.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'd like, once you've dealt with it to this degree
for this long, it's time to move on.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
There was also the space, you know, because every time
there was a packer that was available, everybody just assumed
he would be a jet like they, oh, he's just
you know, because he's good buddies with Aaron Rodgers. And
he even pointed out that, you know, it's a long
shot for that to happen because they just drafted Olu
and so the idea that.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
He said, I'm still a cornerstone lineman, well, yeah, that's
a little that's a little delusional. If you ask me.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah. But if you were playing at the highest level
and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Like if I were playing at the highest level, I'd
still be playing. What's the difference?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You wouldn't take a secondary role or feel feel right
about a secondary role? Oh oh somebody? Uh ohh, I
don't know the hell is this? That's you know you got?
That's that's that Kenny Kenny, Kenny Loggins, Kenny Rodgers. Which
one is Kenny Rogers Kenny Rodgers? Big difference between Rogers and.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
But uh hey, look man, you got no one to
hold him and when to fold him.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You just got it. You just you're not a cornerstone
offensive lineman anymore. He can slam a beer. I'll tell
you that. You ever see those videos at the hockey guy,
Yeah that was a hockey that it was a Bucks
gam NBA game, and he would just rip uh Taylor
the wand was the guy who drank beer out of
a fish? I believe a Predators games. Interesting.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Would you rather drink a beer out of a fish
or a shoe?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Neither? I would not rather neither fish. Never what just
because I've seen a guy. There was a girl who
was a bartender at my brother's bar. She was dating
a guy from Australia and I actually witnessed him pull
his converse off like his like his what do they
chuck Taylor's? Is that what they're called? He pulled it off,
(31:13):
and this guy smelled to begin with. He pulled it off,
poured his beer in there, chugged it, and put it
back on his foot. It was one of the most
revolting things I've ever seen in my life. Did he
have a suck? No, because it was summertime, so he
was wearing shorts with a shoe and no sock.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Pulled it off. Just some of the cultural things that
are done, like drinking beer out of a fish or
out of a shoe, that just doesn't cross my cultural line.
Like I'm just not that's not something I've heard of
(31:52):
outside of hearing it from you and Brady, and it's
not and and Lee, it's not something that I wouldn't
enture to say that I'm curious as to what that
would be like Yeah, And in fact, it's not even
an interesting conversation to me, because it's so outlandish to think.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That's not a bucket list. It's not a bucket list.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
If I could use profanity to answer the question, I
would well listen, and it's just as outrageous is back
Tari thinking that he's still a corner stone lineman for
somebody's tea.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Hey, David Bactieri, you got a friend in me, all right,
you got a friend in me? Yeah, you keep you
keep pursuing the dream. This is said thirteen games over
how many years since twenty twenty? Okay, say listen, he's
got one shot trying to be an NFL player again.
If this is it, this is it, This is it.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
I mean, and I have nothing against that, get it.
I have nothing against that. If that's what you're going
to try to do, because that's what you're feeling. I'm
not here to say don't do it. I'm just saying,
when you think about your long like I would think
about my long term health over being able to still
do something.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
That I love.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I love eating a lot of food. My long term
health says I need to get back in the gym.
I need to lose some of this weight because I'm obese.
That's what I had to give up some of the
things that I love doing so that I could try
to live a healthier lifestyle, like there's no difference here, man.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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Speaker 1 (34:47):
For that we turn it over to our executive producer,
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Speaker 4 (35:06):
Oh my gosh, that's not how he says it, Hey Brady,
he sound No, that sounds like the cooking Monster.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
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Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, that was almost Fat Albert, Fat Fat Albert and
cookie Monster. But anyway, go ahead, man.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Well, guys, in case you missed this, we all know
that that Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson fight that was
originally scheduled for July twentieth has been postponed due to Mike.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Tyson's flaring ulcer.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Well, Jake Paul still intends to fight on July twentieth,
In case you missed that, he's intending to do a
bare knuckle boxing match versus Mike Perry in Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That is now officially the plane. All right, I told
you so. For people who have not watched bare knuckle fighting,
it is brutal, brutal and brutal, Like you can't even
believe anybody sanctions it. But it's awesome. And Mike Perry
was in the UFC for a long time, it was
kind of I mean, he had some some decent wins,
(36:09):
but he you know, there was just like the ground game,
all the other stuff that you know, he sort of
struggled with. He went into a bare knuckle and has
become a superstar to where he's the face of bare
knuckle and he fights everybody just because he does not care.
He will stand in the pocket and trade and it's gory,
and I'm I'm actually surprised at Jake Paul's agreeing to this,
(36:31):
like because like you've, like there's MMA fighters who've talked
about it, who said, you know, I'd be interested in
doing bare knuckle towards the end of my career. Like
when I realize that, you know, like I've got nothing,
no other big time fights for a big time organization
going on, then I'll give it a go because that changes,
It changes you as a person. And the fact that
Jake Paul's actually going down this road is kind of
(36:53):
surprising to me.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, I think that's foolish. Baron knuckles is that's a
different arena. But you know, to each his own.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Now, is it going to be barre knuckle or is
it going to be boxing? Because I've seen conflicting reports
on this lead. I'm seeing bare.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Knuckle, but you know that definitely could change. I'm seeing
it officially within the bk FC.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I would set see a bar knuckle fighting Championships. Laura
told me about that. I would be shocked. If this
is barre knuckle, It's got to be a boxing match.
It's gotta be. There's no way he agrees to barre
knuckle with Mike Perry. There's just no way. I don't don't,
I don't see it happen. You don't cut him up, bro, Like,
there's no way outside of there's no possible ending that
(37:40):
doesn't involve you getting multiple cuts in it. That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Whether you win or lose, ye don't have your face
is going to be bladed up.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
That's why I just I would be surprised if he
went down this road. Got too much money, man, it's
got too much going on.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
What else we got lee will guys, in case you
missed at the NFL Draft last year, of course, was
in Detroit and set records with seven hundred thousand people
in attendance.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Might be hard to get that.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Next year when it's Green Bay, which you know is
a town that holds only one hundred thousand people. But
people are taking advantage. They're listing their homes on Airbnb.
For if you're good looking for a spare room, a
single room, that's one thousand dollars a night. But if
you're looking for an entire property, you're looking at bare
minimum eighteen hundred up to twenty grand a day.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
A day a day. Yeah, yeah too, y'ah full of yarselves. Yeah,
I remember. I remember going to the US opening twenty
sixteen in Oakmont, PA. And as you rolled up to
the golf course there were people who were charging twenty
bucks to park in there on their lawn. They're making money.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Oakmont's pretty expensive, yeah, making money like Green Bay
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me the look you give me pull when I pull
(02:42):
into the parking lot?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Oh my gosh, why do I give you the look
that I give you?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
You just shaking your head every time I roll in
the parking Because every time you one more day with
that truck is one more time for you to get
that look from me.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I'm going to shame look you until you get a
different vehicle, bro, That's why.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, but with the vehicle comes the theme song. I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
No, I don't think we lose the theme song because
that's that theme song is the essence of who you are.
That's not just your truck. So once the truck is gone,
that's just like a memory of you know something, that
physical representation of who you are. The song is who
you are.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Damn. Yeah. Man, Well, I.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Hope you get a new vehicle soon, though I don't
like you don't need to have your in laws always
coming over to fish. That is not the reason why
you should marry. You shouldn't marry for for vehicle, you know,
assistance and maintenance. It's not okay, it's not okay, man,
(03:55):
good we're going for it this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You're going for it. But you know what, I don't
even know what you're talking about. Well, look is what
it is, and we will. We will figure that out
at some point and eventually, at some point, probably soon,
that'll be a conversation that has had. I was thinking
(04:21):
about this though, because obviously we put a bow on
the NBA Finals. We did, and it's over. Season is over.
The Celtics are in Miami doing god knows what. They're
probably still awake right now. Like if they went to
Miami to party for a few days before the parade,
I would say, what's the is it eleven? Is that
the club in Miami that that's opened twenty four hours
a day. I mean, they're they're probably, yeah, they're probably
(04:43):
tearing it up as we speak, on a full blown bender.
And then you got the parade coming up on Friday.
I believe that's going to be a mess. I mean
they're gonna be throwing booze at them left and right,
like the whole thing is gonna be fun to watch.
But I was thinking about this if you're one of
the exes, how you feeling like if you're somebody like
(05:05):
Marcus Smart, who had been there his entire career, had
been close, played in the finals a couple of years ago,
and then you get traded away the off season before
they finally win an NBA championship, How the hell do
you think that's sitting with him? That's gotta suck. Were
(05:27):
you part of the problem? Were you holding them back?
I mean you got to have some little self accountability there,
you know, some introspective moments. I don't know. I mean,
you were two games away from winning the finals two
years ago with him, You were in a game seven
of the Eastern Conference finals last year like Jared.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Goff right, like GoF you make it to the super Bowl,
you just weren't good enough.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
To win it. That's got a bit like how would
that look? Like? How would that? Because you were with
the Giants but you retired and then they ended up
then they.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Went, So it's like, was I just not good enough
for us? But I actually got hurt? So I wasn't.
I wasn't participating enough to matter.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, But it was also they made a decision to
move on from those guys like a Marcus Smarter, Jared
Goff you retired well.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So yeah, yeah, it was kind of both though both full.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Like em Udoka who was the head coach of the
Celtics a couple of years ago, and there in the
finals and.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Then he's the one that probably feels like crap, honestly,
I mean because because I mean really was what was
what you're doing was worth you sacrificing where this team
is now. I don't let me see how she looks.
Hold on, yeah, I don't. I would venture to say
it probably wasn't worth it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
No, I mean you were in a dope relationship with
you know, and I don't like getting into that type
of personal business. All I'm gonna say is because I
was really about to go.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Down that lane. What yeah, I'm not going to do
why not, I'm not going to do it. I'm not
going to jump, You're going I'm not going to Uh.
I'll just say this. He's probably sitting somewhere sick like
that was my team and well, and there was a
lot of people that were saying last year when they
(07:20):
came up short that a lot of the things that
he specialized in defense is where they sort of fell
apart last year. And that's why, you know, Joe Missoula
got so much heat and there was so much pressure
on him because it was like, ude, he may Udoka
had this team two games away from an NBA championship
and you just were underwhelming in big time spots all year.
(07:40):
And so the thought was, with emy Udoka, with last
year's team, a year experience, another year experience for Tatum
and all those guys being in the finals the year before,
maybe that's an NBA Finals team again. And then they
came up short in Game seven, and the thought was, well,
with emy Udoka, that team would have gone farther than
what they did last year. And so yeah, he's one
(08:02):
of those guys who's probably sitting there going, damn, man,
like do you just not watch? Do you not turn
on the TV? Do you not?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Like I remember watching the Super Bowl that next year,
I would have gotten slaughtered during that game. I was
pretty sick, like I was like, damn, we're going to lose.
And for some reason, I was like, you know, I
was like I felt better, like we're not winning this
(08:31):
game the entire time pretty much. So I'm watching it
and it's like, I'm sick that I didn't get a chance.
I was that close to being on a team that
was going to play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But I'm sitting there.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I was like, man, it's my luck, like i'd be there,
and it's just like, what's going on right now.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
We're losing to a team that's going to go undefeeded.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
They're going to go undefeed it, and you know, here's
what it looks like if I'm playing out there in
my mind and then they win.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh, it's like damn.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Like you know, the team that I was supposed to
be on this year for my second year in the contract,
and with the team I leave and they woul in
the Super Bowl, and they do it in a fashion
that is one of the most memorable fashions. The helmet
catch plexico icing them at the end of the game,
(09:24):
and Tom Brady and company, Randy Moss, they were undefeated.
You knocked off the undefeated New England Patriots. And for
what it's worth, if we want to take it a
step further, I had a seven year contract, so I
would have been there for two super Bowls. I would
(09:45):
have got two super Bowls if it plays out. I'm
healthy and we're playing this, that and the other two
super Bowls. So yeah, I can understand, you know, the
feeling of what it feels like to see a team
that you were on win it the very next year
you're not on the team. And I didn't have, like,
I don't I doubt Marcus Smart sitting somewhere like feeling
(10:08):
as though, like, God, this team was you know, you know,
going to be better off without me or anything like that.
I don't. I don't think. I don't think you have
the thought process. I know I didn't have the thought
process like, yeah, you know they would have been better
with me type deal. I didn't feel that way. And
maybe it was just because of where I was at
(10:28):
my career, but I just I wasn't looking at them like,
you know, this team isn't going to be as good
without me. I mean, I may I made what five
games with them, and they ended up going to the
playoffs still that year. So the very next year then
they come back and they win it all. I mean,
you can have feelings, You could have feelings towards it,
(10:51):
because that would piss me off, man, especially if you
don't have any you don't have any championships, you know
you don't. That's like something that you want. It's like
one of the main things that you want. Like people ask,
do you want to have personal awards or do you
want to have team awards? You know why, you would
love to have personal awards, you know, get Pro Bowls
(11:12):
or being All Pro and stuff like that, be recognized
for how well you play. I ultimately fall on the
side of probably most guys I play football. You want
those team awards, not me. I want to win the
Super Bowl, man. I want to play for the super Bowl.
I want to play in the super Bowl. I want
to try to win the Super Bowl. I want to
win the Super Bowl. I'd rather have I'd rather have
(11:34):
six seven Super Bowl rings and know that I contribute
it the way that I did, versus have a whole
bunch of All Pros and Pro Bowls with no real
success as a team.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah what Kobe Bryant say, There's no I in team,
but there's no me. Yeah, that's why I roll. I'm
like Eric dickers I'm like Eric Dickerson with a say
would you give up your Hall of Fame ring for
a Super Bowl ring. He's like, absolutely not, Oh no,
I would not. I'm good here. I just I wonder though, Yeah,
but he doesn't have any Super Bowls. Because I'll tell
you this right now, if I was Marcus Smart, not
(12:07):
only would I have been rooting against the Celtics in
the NBA playoffs, I would have risked my career to
gamble against them and get caught just because I was
that much of a red ass about them dealing me
away when they did. And listen, they've been kind and
pleasant and with their compliments about him, you know, in
his time there, and he was a great Celtic and
(12:29):
he had a great run, and there's a lot of
great moments. He he actually was the glue that kept that
team together when there was a lot of times they
came up short. But damn you put in all that time,
you hustled, he was diving on the floor like he
was a Celtic and then the very next season they
win a championship. I just was holding them back, like
(12:50):
I just wonder. I just wonder. That's gotta be a
rough and a tough pill to swallow. But nonetheless, that'll
conclude our coverage of the NBA this year. We will
talk to you again coming up in October. Or unless
you know, Brownie James goes number one overall and we're
forced to talk about it, well, there's still w NBA Talk.
Our four, the entire hour dedicated to the w NBA.
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Just to go ahead and appease everybody out there who's
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We've got our Midweek Awards an hour two of the program.
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weird ass. You got issues. He needs some serious help.
We got a problem on everything. I don't understand you.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Man. Yeah, let's throw what you man? Transferring funds? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Transfer while you're at it, you know, why don't you
do a little transfer real quick?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
You know, may if you're not going to use that joint, yeah,
you're not going to use that my backyard, right, damn.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio
LeVar Arrington, Jonas NOx with you here. We are going
to have another edition of In Case You missed It
coming up later on this hour, And in this edition
of In Case You Missed It, we've got something that
just got a hell of a lot more interesting in
the world of sports. Uh you know, a nice a
nice consolation prize if you will, that'll be yours here
(15:41):
again a little over twenty minutes from now. If you've
ever been caught in a room like a waiting room,
whether it be a doctor's office, you know, a car dealership, whatever,
and you see somebody has some really bizarre show or
movie on television, imagine that multiplied by four. And that's
(16:04):
what LeVar and I are dealing with currently in the
studio right now, these tiraq dot com studios, because ira
dot com, what the hell has been on television? And
what have people been watching? Here? I know the NBA
Finals are over. You don't have to have charmed on
thinking TNT is gonna have an NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I mean some.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Two monitors on top of that, charmed on two televisions.
Me that's charmed overload. One is Charmed overload.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's a lot and then there was some guy getting
his eyeball removed in a mood.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It wasn't getting removed. He was grabbing it hisself. He
was pulling his own eyeball out.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Lee, what was the movie that where the guy wasning? Well,
it's still on.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
It's called Talk to Me, horror movie from Australia last year,
a twenty.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Four and they still have it on for some reason. Yeah,
he rips his eyeball. I mean, look at this good
movie at the start. Well, can y'all do it? It's
a good movie on your own time. It's a good movie. No,
it's not your time. Try to educate you. No, you're not.
And I don't want this education. I don't want it.
(17:14):
You want this Jonus? Do you want it? Really?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
But you know what I know, Lee? Does I know
that must be it must be a certain scene of
some sort. I mean, it's better. Now we've got NFL network,
we got h we got ESPN, we got we got
the Weather channel on now so.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
We had last night. Oh jeez, here we go. I
told you, Sola, all right, listen, we are going to
get this figured out. I wouldn't uh, I would like
to say this. Uh. Rest in peace the Great Willie
Mays passed away yesterday. There are certain statistics that you hear,
(17:56):
are certain facts, like sports facts that come out that
you hear and you go, you know, wait what. Like
I remember the first time I heard that mark Ingram
was the first Alabama player to win the Heisman Trophy,
and I thought, wait, really, like oh nine, Like it
just it didn't even make sense to me. I thought, man,
Alabama is a great program all that, but it was
(18:16):
like one of those things to where you hear it
and you go that doesn't even Like we've talked about
Barry Sanders college stats, like you just you hear it
and you go, wait what. Willie Mays was an All
Star twenty four times.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Hey, bro, dude, I thought, I'm guilty of thinking that
will I thought Willie Mays was already gone. No, I
had no idea he was still I mean, I had
no idea he was still alive. Like the name is
such a legendary name.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's like.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
It's like certain names you hear you just think that
they're already gone. Like if her, you know, I'd be
like them saying like Babe Ruth or or Jackie Robinson
just passed away. I thought I mean, that's those are
the names that you hear when you hear Willie Mays.
I ain't you know Hank Aaron he just passed away
not too long ago, the like during COVID. Yeah, I
(19:12):
just said I didn't think he was still here, So
I mean, I just I don't know. They So he
was ninety one ninety four.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, they broke into all over Major League baseball and
everybody was giving him a standing ovation because you watch
some of his highlights and you go, oh, that would
work today, Like he was that far ahead of his time.
So twenty four time, like think about you were a
three time pro bowler, imagine that time's eight. It's unbelievable,
like he just it's incredible.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Clearity many is the key to being you know, recognized
the way that you are.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Twelve Gold Gloves.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
World Series, some say some, I mean some people argue
a debate, you know, and within the baseball circles him
being the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, as far as a skill set, like a like
a five tool player, like but well before or anybody
was really a five tool player, he was unbelievable, like unbelievable.
So rest in peace to the great Willie Mays who
passed away yesterday and was celebrated around Major League Baseball inappropriately.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
So and they said he went peacefully, which is I mean,
you can only that's all you could really ask for. Yeah,
live a long, good life, and then at ninety four,
you go peacefully like you didn't have to struggle or
deal with like, you know, crazy illnesses or anything like that.
I hope that's the way I go, man.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Honestly, it is a shots out respect though, man, absolutely
it is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas knocks with you.
So David Baktiari, former packle, former Packers off pack Yeah,
thank you, former Packers offensive tackle. He we haven't really
(20:51):
seen a lot of it lately. He is no longer
Remember the Green Bay Packers. He suffered the knee injury.
There was a setback. He just couldn't get right. When
he did come back, it didn't feel right, it didn't
seem right. He's not been the same player. This guy
was an All Pro tackle in Green Bay. Just a
great player at his position, one of the best at
his position. He recently spoke on the Adam Schefter podcast
(21:13):
about his goals to try and come back to the NFL.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 8 (21:17):
A lot of other people wanted me just to kind
of grit through it, but no one experiences when you
truly experienced. I'm like, look, I've been grit doing.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It for three years. I'm in constant pain.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
I'm so happy now to be on the other side
of it and get the actual thirdyar that I needed
because my knee was not in a good place. My
goal right now is just to make sure that I'm
I not only fully recover, but I can withstand and
play the game that I want to play, but also
play and be there for a team no matter what,
(21:45):
and not just I'm not I mean, I'm not a
reliever guy. I am your cornerstone guy and someone that's
gonna ho only play from September, but into February and
then obviously hopefully for another couple of years.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So that was David boc TIERREI talking with Adam Schefter
and this like, he's one of those guys that I
look at because he signed his big deal in Green
Bay and I think it was within two to three
weeks after that when he suffered the injury. So it
was right before he got his big payday and has
just not been the same player since. But he's one
of those guys that I look at. I think he's
(22:21):
made a little over one hundred and twenty six million
dollars in his career. He's obviously dealing with the health
and the injuries. He's a free agent for a reason
because there's probably teams that are skeptical. Skepticals to see
whether or not he can come back and play at
a high level or a level that can be a
starting level or a rotational guy in the NFL. But
he's one of those guys like a Sam Bradford who
(22:42):
had all the money, didn't need to keep coming back,
but continued to try because he wants to end his
career on the right note. And he talked about that
later in the podcast, just I I don't want anybody
else to write my story. I want the opportunity to
finish my career the way I want to finish it.
So I hope it works out for him that he's
still giving it a go with all the injuries and
(23:03):
with all that money in the bank, just tells you
this guy loves football. Man. Oh I'm just saying. I mean,
I can see that that.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You know, a lot of guys don't get to write
their story the way they want to write their story,
with how their career goes. I mean, sometimes when it's over,
it's over, and it sounds like it's over for him.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Jeez.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Knees are are a funny it's a funny thing, bro
And when they don't get healthy and they're not healthy
for a long time, you know it's going to come
down to what he can tolerate and how he's able
to perform with his new norm with how his knee is.
(23:46):
And then the question becomes to me, how much are
you damaging yourself for the rest of your life? Like
at some point you got to take a step back
and you just got to be like, my body has
not held up the way that I would like for
it to hold up. It's not about somebody writing your
(24:09):
story and you not being able to write your story.
Your story is your story. If you want to write
a different story, write your own book, do your own
do your own thing and telling your own story that
you know, the platforms out here are are now so
it's such a commonality, a norm for player voices. You
(24:33):
don't have to worry about somebody else writing your your story.
Like like you said, you've you've had success, you've made money.
I mean, what's wrong with with preserving your what's left
of what you got going on?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
With your need?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
You said, you've got it surgically repaired the surgery that
you needed.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean, how old is he? What year? What year
is this? I got going on ten? But last last
couple he hasn't.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Really I mean the averages what three and a half? Yeah,
the average lifespan of an NFL career is that three
and a half years, and you're at right at you know,
is it ten nine or ten?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah? Came in the league at twenty thirteen. Since twenty twenty,
he's started thirteen games. So he's just not He's just not. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Sometimes, I mean, listen, a lot of guys loved the game.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I loved the game.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I mean I had lost a little love of it
just because of the politics I had to deal with
in DC. But I still loved playing the game. And
you know, I had an injury. I had an achilles injury,
and it was very painful, and I just didn't want
to keep going through that, Like you go through a surgery, man,
(26:00):
there's something that that's something you gotta deal with, like
mentally and emotionally. You know, a lot of times we
talk about and I've talked about this like a long
time ago, about the idea of how people recover. It's
the most interesting phenomenon that I think exists in sports
(26:20):
is that in recovery, you do surgery on the body
part that needs needs surgery surgically repairing. You do the
rehab and all this physical activity to try to get
that body part back to where it once was or
it's closed. Sometimes they say even better, but you really
(26:44):
never do the type of rehab and the type of
surgical procedure, which I don't think you had to do
a surgery surgery, But when you think about it, how
do you repair the emotional and the mental aspect that
takes place every time you have one of these major
injuries and you don't hear about that, there's got to
(27:05):
be a depression that comes along with bro I'm telling you,
you go through a lot of different emotions when when
you're coming back from from an injury and a surgery
at that and and it's like you're getting measured and
you're being weighed on your health by physical measurements. How
(27:25):
much weight can that that ligament or that joint handle
or you know, how how long can you run for?
What's what's the you know, the durability, you know the
kind of the you know having having uh, you know
what is it? Uh when you build up you know, stamina,
(27:45):
the stamina of what you have going on. But nobody
ever really takes into account mentally where that person is,
emotionally where that person is, and there's not very much
to do. Like trainers talk to you, you have conversations,
but if you think about it in comparison to what
(28:07):
you're doing to physically get somebody prepared to come back
versus what you're doing for them mentally for them to
come back, it's very very different, you know. And so
if I'm David.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Back back back, back back.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Tari, I don't I don't see how you love the
game so much that you're willing to risk your long
term your long term health over trying to come back
when you've done.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I mean, doesn't he was he all wanted he made
a Super Bowl appearance. No, he came after Yeah, it
was right after that because after the loss he came
in twenty thirteen, and they well they won the Super
Bowl in twenty eleven. It was there two years afterwards,
and they had never gone back to the Super Yeah,
I mean still even yet. Still.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
I just think sometimes you just got to know when
to hold them and know when to fold them and
know when to walk away, you know. And that's it
sounds like that's where he's at in his career. I mean,
it could be considered to be a valiant effort to
try to come back and play more, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
See it that way. Oh here, I just see it.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'd like, once you've dealt with it to this degree
for this long, it's time to move on.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
There was also the space, you know, because every time
there was a packer that was available, everybody just assumed
he would be a jet like they, oh, he's just
you know, because he's good buddies with Aaron Rodgers. And
he even pointed out that, you know, it's a long
shot for that to happen because they just drafted Olu
and so the idea that.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
He said, I'm still a cornerstone lineman, well, yeah, that's
a little that's a little delusional. If you ask me.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah. But if you were playing at the highest level
and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Like if I were playing at the highest level, I'd
still be playing. What's the difference?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You wouldn't take a secondary role or feel feel right
about a secondary role? Oh oh somebody? Uh ohh, I
don't know the hell is this? That's you know you got?
That's that's that Kenny Kenny, Kenny Loggins, Kenny Rodgers. Which
one is Kenny Rogers Kenny Rodgers? Big difference between Rogers and.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
But uh hey, look man, you got no one to
hold him and when to fold him.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You just got it. You just you're not a cornerstone
offensive lineman anymore. He can slam a beer. I'll tell
you that. You ever see those videos at the hockey guy,
Yeah that was a hockey that it was a Bucks
gam NBA game, and he would just rip uh Taylor
the wand was the guy who drank beer out of
a fish? I believe a Predators games. Interesting.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Would you rather drink a beer out of a fish
or a shoe?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Neither? I would not rather neither fish. Never what just
because I've seen a guy. There was a girl who
was a bartender at my brother's bar. She was dating
a guy from Australia and I actually witnessed him pull
his converse off like his like his what do they
chuck Taylor's? Is that what they're called? He pulled it off,
(31:13):
and this guy smelled to begin with. He pulled it off,
poured his beer in there, chugged it, and put it
back on his foot. It was one of the most
revolting things I've ever seen in my life. Did he
have a suck? No, because it was summertime, so he
was wearing shorts with a shoe and no sock.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Pulled it off. Just some of the cultural things that
are done, like drinking beer out of a fish or
out of a shoe, that just doesn't cross my cultural line.
Like I'm just not that's not something I've heard of
(31:52):
outside of hearing it from you and Brady, and it's
not and and Lee, it's not something that I wouldn't
enture to say that I'm curious as to what that
would be like Yeah, And in fact, it's not even
an interesting conversation to me, because it's so outlandish to think.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That's not a bucket list. It's not a bucket list.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
If I could use profanity to answer the question, I
would well listen, and it's just as outrageous is back
Tari thinking that he's still a corner stone lineman for
somebody's tea.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Hey, David Bactieri, you got a friend in me, all right,
you got a friend in me? Yeah, you keep you
keep pursuing the dream. This is said thirteen games over
how many years since twenty twenty? Okay, say listen, he's
got one shot trying to be an NFL player again.
If this is it, this is it, This is it.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
I mean, and I have nothing against that, get it.
I have nothing against that. If that's what you're going
to try to do, because that's what you're feeling. I'm
not here to say don't do it. I'm just saying,
when you think about your long like I would think
about my long term health over being able to still
do something.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
That I love.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I love eating a lot of food. My long term
health says I need to get back in the gym.
I need to lose some of this weight because I'm obese.
That's what I had to give up some of the
things that I love doing so that I could try
to live a healthier lifestyle, like there's no difference here, man.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, well it is two Pros and a Cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox
with you here. Coming up next here from the tyrack
dot Com studios. You are going to see when something
comes up and it's a little bit bad news and
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Speaker 3 (33:44):
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Speaker 1 (33:55):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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(34:17):
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Speaker 3 (34:37):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it, and.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
For that we turn it over to our executive producer,
Lee Lap. Good morning, Good morning everybody. Good morning, Jonas,
good morning, Good morning, lev Art, good morning, Lee, Good
good morning morning the Lap. Thank you, guys. Guys. In
case you miss this, Hey Brady.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Oh my gosh, that's not how he says it, Hey Brady,
he sound No, that sounds like the cooking Monster.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Hey Brady, No it's not.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, that was almost Fat Albert, Fat Fat Albert and
cookie Monster. But anyway, go ahead, man.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Well, guys, in case you missed this, we all know
that that Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson fight that was
originally scheduled for July twentieth has been postponed due to Mike.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Tyson's flaring ulcer.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Well, Jake Paul still intends to fight on July twentieth,
In case you missed that, he's intending to do a
bare knuckle boxing match versus Mike Perry in Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That is now officially the plane. All right, I told
you so. For people who have not watched bare knuckle fighting,
it is brutal, brutal and brutal, Like you can't even
believe anybody sanctions it. But it's awesome. And Mike Perry
was in the UFC for a long time, it was
kind of I mean, he had some some decent wins,
(36:09):
but he you know, there was just like the ground game,
all the other stuff that you know, he sort of
struggled with. He went into a bare knuckle and has
become a superstar to where he's the face of bare
knuckle and he fights everybody just because he does not care.
He will stand in the pocket and trade and it's gory,
and I'm I'm actually surprised at Jake Paul's agreeing to this,
(36:31):
like because like you've, like there's MMA fighters who've talked
about it, who said, you know, I'd be interested in
doing bare knuckle towards the end of my career. Like
when I realize that, you know, like I've got nothing,
no other big time fights for a big time organization
going on, then I'll give it a go because that changes,
It changes you as a person. And the fact that
Jake Paul's actually going down this road is kind of
(36:53):
surprising to me.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, I think that's foolish. Baron knuckles is that's a
different arena. But you know, to each his own.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Now, is it going to be barre knuckle or is
it going to be boxing? Because I've seen conflicting reports
on this lead. I'm seeing bare.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Knuckle, but you know that definitely could change. I'm seeing
it officially within the bk FC.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I would set see a bar knuckle fighting Championships. Laura
told me about that. I would be shocked. If this
is barre knuckle, It's got to be a boxing match.
It's gotta be. There's no way he agrees to barre
knuckle with Mike Perry. There's just no way. I don't don't,
I don't see it happen. You don't cut him up, bro, Like,
there's no way outside of there's no possible ending that
(37:40):
doesn't involve you getting multiple cuts in it. That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Whether you win or lose, ye don't have your face
is going to be bladed up.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
That's why I just I would be surprised if he
went down this road. Got too much money, man, it's
got too much going on.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
What else we got lee will guys, in case you
missed at the NFL Draft last year, of course, was
in Detroit and set records with seven hundred thousand people
in attendance.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Might be hard to get that.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Next year when it's Green Bay, which you know is
a town that holds only one hundred thousand people. But
people are taking advantage. They're listing their homes on Airbnb.
For if you're good looking for a spare room, a
single room, that's one thousand dollars a night. But if
you're looking for an entire property, you're looking at bare
minimum eighteen hundred up to twenty grand a day.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
A day a day. Yeah, yeah too, y'ah full of yarselves. Yeah,
I remember. I remember going to the US opening twenty
sixteen in Oakmont, PA. And as you rolled up to
the golf course there were people who were charging twenty
bucks to park in there on their lawn. They're making money.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Oakmont's pretty expensive, yeah, making money like Green Bay
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