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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Tuesday edition, as we wait for the NBA Finals
to resume, we talk about the details that have come
out on the Aaron Rodgers contract. How likely is it
that he reaches every single cent of that deal. We'll
break it all down. We're also going to talk about
what that means for Kirk Cousins and his future around
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the NFL. We will get into a conversation about some
shame people in the media feeling some shame about their
coverage of one NFL quarterback. Plus, we're gonna have another
edition of In case you missed it, the Great Pete
Prisco stops by and we've got Lee's leftovers. It's all yours.
Coming up next here, Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe on a Tuesday, Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, oh wait, we are.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We're rolling It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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You can listen to us as always on the iHeartRadio app.
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of your Tuesday morning, we appreciate it. We are going
to take you all the way up until nine am
Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific here. And because the NBA
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wants to take their sweet ass time with getting to
these games, they've extended the talking points or the ability
to talk through the in between of game two and
Game three. But there's nothing really worth talking about when
it comes to that. So we just got to wait
our turn and instead shift gears and focus in on
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this story that you thought was going to be done,
and you thought we were going to move on and
just focus on the stuff on the field, and then
all of a sudden, uh, the details started to trickle
out when it comes to Aaron Rodgers and the saga
and signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Who wrote this? Who wrote this? Who typed this out?
When did Albert become Albert Brie?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Mike wrote this? Oh yeah, that was a profate Mike.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
You forgot an r. Yeah it's Breer. I don't know.
I mean, even even the best of the best need editors.
You know that, you know people to proof read it
at least, you know, Albert Albert brie I'm all right, then,
who's that? What insider is that? Huh? Maybe he was
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hanging with Lee. Dang hey, Lee, I'm just saying it's
not beyond the realm of possibility that Mike could have been,
you know, bending the elbow a little bit. You know,
Mama's Mama's truth juice, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Uh, Well, listen, he really wanted to read it too, Lee.
He's like, man, he is like me.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You see it, Albert Albert Brieham of s I you say,
oh my god, just ridiculous. Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But that is one of the details that has come
out when it comes to the Aaron Rodgers uh situation
and the details of the contract that he did sign
with the Pittsburgh Steelers. As we mentioned yesterday, we will
get to hear from Rogers. He has scheduled to speak
with the media in Pittsburgh later on today. We did
an over under on how many questions before somebody asked
him about the wedding ring or whatever that ring was yesterday.
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We'll await the results and have those results coming up tomorrow.
Did they ask him, No, not yet, because they talk
later today today he's the big day. A today's the
big day. Today's a big day. Yeah, hey, must.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Have the mighty fallen if today is the big day
because you're interviewing a guy you gave a one year
deal that's worth nineteen million dollars, somebody's only going to
make like just one dollar over ten million.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I got news for you, anybody, I got news for you.
Anybody that's got Aaron Rodgers fatigue. Why don't you tell
somebody in the NFL to do us as solve and
get arrested. Okay, give us something else to talk about.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Or go or code, do something else with your for weeks.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah that too. I'm so sick. I'll see you on
a couple months. You sed to you too biggest you came.
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Oh my god, I can't get out my mom. I
literally can't get It's been like it's hard to unhear
it and see it once you But uh so so
with that, we do have the details. According to Albert
Brie of SI dot Com, is laid out by Mike Floria.
Well listen, it happens now, who cares? But point is, uh,
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the incentives, Hey, I would have caught that. The incentives
that come along with the Aaron Rodgers contract or the
following if he participates in seventy percent of the offensive
snaps in the regular season. If that threshold is satisfied,
here's what he'll get if the Steelers make the playoffs.
Will go one at a time. You tell me how
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likely this is, Labar. Steelers make the playoffs, he gets
five hundred thousand dollars. Okay, if they earn a first
round buy and if they win in the wild card round,
Rogers takes at least half the snaps six hundred thousand dollars. Depends,
all right, it depends if they win the divisional round.
And you know, let's what can we spice this up
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a little bit? You got any game show music, maybe
Pittsburgh Steeler polka in the style like let's go ahead
and we'll go with the polka. Oh yeah, let's dust
off of parole.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know they played the same thing for Groundhog Day. Yeah,
that's kind of crazy, Phil of the It's the same song,
but they made it the Pittsburgh Steelers song.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
The original guys. Come on, I mean, people have a
lot of perceptions about us, you know how we are.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
But didn't Steelers Poka come before.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I don't know, I probably would, I don't know. That's
that's a that would be a great trivia question. Yeah,
there you go. Steeler Chuck Mall and all his friends
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are all coach Chuck, get them the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Hollow Joe used to dance rock Want do Italians dance?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Like?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Why do you adhead?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Italians dance like that?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Coming, so let me jump what hay dancer like? Okay,
come on, man, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Snail trail? Yeah, you can unsee that one either. So
so the we continue on the incentive of gravity, the
incentive details of the Aaron Rodgers contract. Uh if so
these Steelers they earn a first round by if they
went in the wildcard round with Rogers taking at least
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half the snaps to get six hundred grand. If they
win in the divisional round and Rogers takes at least
half the snaps, seven hundred and fifty thousand, still doable.
All of those are doable.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I don't think they'll win the division but I think
all like they could possibly I think they'll make the playoffs.
They could possibly win their divisional round in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So are they going to win the AFC title game?
Because if so, no, Rogers and Rogers takes at least
half the snaps, he gets a million dollars. Yeah, no,
if they wouldn't stick. And you know what, you.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Want to know what's ridiculous about them doing that? I mean,
I'm gonna just be honest. What's what's ridiculous about them
doing that is if if you're expecting Aaron Rodgers to
be that good Okay, we get, we can stop, we
can get yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, this is I'm a stripper music.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Hey hey, easy, now talking about my hometown.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
So here's the.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Thing, right, if you're bringing Aaron Rodgers in, and you're
bringing him in with the idea that he's that good
where he can win the AFC North your division, or
he can get you into the playoffs out of your
division as a wild card, if you believe he's good
enough to get you out of the divisional round, if
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you believe he's good enough to get you to the
AFC Championship Game, if you believe he's good enough to
get you to the Super Bowl. Why the hell did
you give him this little ass one year contract? And
if you're going to give him a one year contract,
why did you give him a contract that is comparable
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comparable to a rookie? Because this isn't his contract comparable
to cam Warts. It's less than that. It's less than
cam Warts. So that that would be my quick this
would be my question. This is where I'm having a
hard time trying to keep these gators on the ground.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Give me three claps.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
In a woooo. This is the problem I have with
it again. And I said this yesterday. You know how
they say the sayings to all these these athletes that
are coming up. You can't go in the backyard and
give and give a regular effort and expect all American results.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
You can't set the stage for the standard to be
that high, and you're not setting the standard of what
the belief is coming into it. So to me, it's
like if you believe that you can do discounted parts
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on a car for the Daytona, If you think you
could do discount it guys to help put the car together.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
If you think you could do a discounted.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Driver to drive your car and you put all these
incentives in there, and you say, Okay, if you come
in first, if you come in second, we're gonna pay
you all this money, which isn't even that much money,
but we're gonna pay you all this money if you're
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able to go out there drive this car with generic parts,
guys that aren't the best in the business, putting the
car together, making sure they run the proper diagnostics of it,
and this, that and the other, and know that the car,
without a shadow of a doubt, is running at the
highest of levels when you drive it and the driver
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is like, I don't know, maybe ranked thirtieth out of.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
All the drivers driving. And you're saying, but if you're.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
A to be as good as the top half of
those guys, because if he's coming out of the AFC,
that means he had to be better than Lamar Jackson,
let's not let's not even go outside of the north
just yet. You had to be better than Jackson. You
had to be better than Burrow. You had to be
better than Mahomes. You had to be better than Allen.
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You had to be better than.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Stroud.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You had to be better than the upper Echellance players
in the AFC and you don't even get you don't
even get paid like any of those guys. To me,
this is a problematic situation because you're hadging your bets,
You're feeling like you're getting a ton of value without
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having to pay for it. So I don't understand why
you could think the results are going to be this profound,
outstanding result when that's not what you paid for and
wasn't last year enough of an example of this is
not the way to go about doing it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean we're not even done yet, coming. I mean,
do you want to know how he can earn an
extra three million dollars Aaron Rodgers if they win the
Super Bowl and if he's the MVP of the regular season,
extra three million bucks?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I'm again again, I'll say again, I'll say if you,
if you're if you believe that he holds that type
of value at this point, will you bring him into
your your organization where you would actually put those things
which listen, a contract is a contract. You're going to
put escalators and the incentives into the contract. Problem is
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is that you got to have somebody who stimulated and
motivated by those types of incentives that are connected to
those types of numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
My biggest question to you, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Would be is are these incentives along with those accomplishments.
Is it feasible to think that Aaron Rodgers is motivated
by the dollars and the incentives to go after it
and get it for the amount of time he's going
to have to go out there and get it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, that's why this another detail that came out yesterday
about the contract which is kind of interesting, And this
also pointed out by Mike Florio that sources tell him
that Rogers would have played for even less than the
Daily signed, but that his agent pushed him to take more.
It's still not knowing how Rogers can pump up his
pay from thirteen to nineteen. But at that time they
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were like, well, you know, one of the factors is
winning the Super Bowl, etc. So, as we laid out,
that's how you get to that number. But even at
that number, reportedly Rogers would have taken less, but his
agent said, no, take a little bit more. Now, whether
or not that's true, I who the hell knows, well,
whether it's true or not, does it matter?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
No, And you've got he's you have discounted Aaron Rodgers
so now he's doing the belt discount double check, not
just for the commercial, for the insurance or whatever. He's
doing it because that's his real reality right now.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, and also the other aspect, and we kind of
touched on this a little bit yesterday that people were
pointing out was well, it was the Steelers third option
because as we laid out, they wanted Matthew Stafford, they
wanted to resign justin Field, so they settled on Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Oh and by the way, what number were they option
wise for Aaron Rodgers? I mean, nobody, Neither one of
them is coming to the party and has left the party.
Like me, dude, like me, I'm leaving the party with
who I wanted to leave with. Otherwise I'm gonna leave alone.
Like that's just not it's just not worth it to
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leave the party with somebody that you didn't want to
leave the party with. But unfortunately for you, unfortunately for
the other person involved, you.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Didn't get who you wanted. Okay, But I think that
the way that that is laid out, okay, has made
it to something, has made it to sound way, It's
made it probably not made it to sound way worse
than it actually is so, because if you just broke
down each individual player that they're discussing here, Well, they
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wanted Matthew Stafford they get of course, other teams wanted
Matthew Stafford. The Giants wanted Matthew Stafford, like, there was
other teams that were in the mix for Matthew Stafford.
They didn't get him, then it was well, they wanted
justin Fields not bad enough. The Jets wanted him more. Yeah,
I mean, let's let's not pretend like the other was
an offer made. They were far apart on guaranteed money.
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But if it was so, if everything was going so smoothly,
why did they still ride with Russell Wilson towards the
end when Russell Wilson and the offensive coordinator Arthur Smith
didn't even get along and people in the building wanted
them to go back to Justin Fields, and still they
didn't make the move.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And by the way, if this is the deal he
gave Aaron Rodgers, what did the dal look like you
was offering justin Field?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's my point, is this idea that people are looking
at this as, oh, well, he's just the third option,
and they're taking all right, fine, But what does it
matter if you actually broke all that down? Matthew Stafford
was a pipe dream, justin Field's. Clearly it didn't go
well enough, else they wouldn't have let him out of
the building or let him lose that starting job last year.
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And it wasn't because of injury or really poor play.
They just wanted to give the opportunity to Russell Wilson.
So Rogers is your guy. The incentive, the contract, all
of that stuff. I don't think any of it matters.
The bottom line is this is more than likely Rogers
last year. And if things go poorly enough, as it
doesn't matter yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
It doesn't matter for Aaron because you ain't paying me
that much anyway, Like you gave me an opportunity to
come play another year.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Thank you, good night in God. And I don't think
that in the back of his mind this is all well,
super Bowl, super Bowl, I gotta win another Super Bowl.
I think he's at peace with it. What is it then?
Why are you doing it? I think he wants to
go out on a smoother note than what happened with
the Jets. That's my thought. My opinion is I think
he looks at what happened with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
You're not You're not going to undo what you did
in those two seasons with one season unless you win
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I think it's I don't think and if.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He thinks that he's going to undo what took place
in New York with the amount of talent that was
on that team and he got a one year reprieve
because he got hurt in year one. If he thinks
that he's going to go into Pittsburgh and win a
Super Bowl and that's going to erase everything that has
happened in New York and he can walk out of
the league in the game with a blaze of glory,
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that should be disturbing.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
If he finished last year either on the bench, injured,
couldn't come back to full health, or looked similar to
how Kirk Cousins looked last year in Atlanta, I don't
think Rogers comes back. I think the back end of
last season and the way that the Jets wanted to
maybe move on or distance themselves from him, I think
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he looked at that and said.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
All right, screw it. All right.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
If there's a situation that I look at and go
all right, no drama, no weirdness tied to the organization,
no dysfunction. If there's a place similar to what I
came in the league with in Green Bay, it's probably Pittsburgh.
And I think he goes out after a year with Pittsburgh.
Can you say that?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
What can we really say that about the Pittsburgh Steelers?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
All Right, you might want to think about that. I mean, look,
think about it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They just got rid of their number one receiver, who
was their number one receiver before picking.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But to their credit, when they've had issues elsewhere, whether
it be Antonio Brown and all that stuff, you heard
maybe some rumblings, it wasn't until those guys are out
the building that you're like, oh God, I'm gonna pushback
on that one. I think the job.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I think there has been drama that has come out
of the locker room far before, like long before those
guys were being let go. I think the rumblings of
what that locker room is like, what the deterioration of
the culture of what the Pittsburgh Steelers have historically represented
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has been discussed. I think it has been discussed, and
I think it has been a growing conversation since Ben
Roethlisberger's last few years there. It's been that long that
the conversation of questioning the like ask ask Terry Bradshaw,
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He'll tell you. You know, you sit there and you
hear some of the older guys that played for the
team and talking about it, even listening to Plexica, We'll
talk about it at one point. The one thing that
has been discussed by guys who have played there has ultimately,
in a lot of regards, has been the same. It's like,
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people love Mike Tomlin, people believe in Mike Tomlin, but
there's elements of what the culture that was representation of
what Pittsburgh was and has been historically, has been deteriorating.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, but you can't. You can't even put them in
the Jets in the same category of dysfunction.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
You can't put them in the set. You cannot put
them in the same category.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That is true. That is very true. And I think
that that element with the Jets was probably a turn off.
And even in saying that, Rogers was like, listen, I'm
open to coming back. I feel good about how my
body went and was progressing at the end of last year,
and I'd like to give it another go. And they
wanted to move in a different direction. I think he
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still believes that the back end of last season that
he can still play at a high enough level that
why not give it one more year?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Which one is better? A better loser or just a
bad loser? Which one is better? What do you mean,
which one's better? Would you rather be a better loser
or just a bad loser. I'd rather be a better loser,
would you?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Because then I can blame people around me. See to me,
to me.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
The Pittsburgh Steelers are a better loser, meaning they win,
they go to the playoffs, they don't have losing seasons,
but the expectations for them are so low for a
team that wins, whereas the New York Jets, it's like
everything is a bonus.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
If you do well.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Bonus, win a game, bonus, make it to the playoffs,
bonus your division, bonus when your conference.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Holy Holy, the world is coming to an end. Let's
not give this.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Let's make it to the super Bowl. Play for a
super Bowl? Holy smokes? What what comes next? As it rain?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I mean, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Saying, bro, I'd rather be a bad loser than than
a good loser. So if you're gonna suck, suck if
I'm gonna lose. I don't want to be a fringe loser.
It's it's false hope. And you know what it does.
It creates false expectations. And you know what, false expectations
turn into rage, Yeah, but anger.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
But it does leave, uh, leave a little bit of
some interesting storylines for week one when they got the jets,
you know.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
And it made for a good storyline today, you know,
and in the heat of June, the dog days of radio.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Ain no dog days. I don't need no cat days
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Speaker 4 (24:15):
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Speaker 1 (24:29):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
about fifteen minutes from now we're going to we are
going to get the details on one of the great
parties all NFL offseason. That'll be yours here again a
little of fifteen minutes from now here on FSR. What
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is going on there in the back? You know what?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
This show should have been called? What's that Animal House?
I think that if our show was called animal House,
it would be way more popular. Animal House is not
the one with with Belushi in them?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah? Have another? Yeah, you know I've never seen that movie. No,
never seen it through. Yeah, shame, I don't know what.
Hang shame. What are you doing your stuff in your
face with chicken nuggets?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
At three thirty in the morning.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Feeding time, you must have gotten torched last night. You
might have gone absolutely mangled. I mean there was no
games on, so.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, you know what, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, I mean some would argue, some would argue you
need to be more focused, so you could you know,
make sure we could get through a show. Who We're
already one one down, you know, I mean, what's two?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I mean some would argue that, you know, there was
a game on last night, so much so that it
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Speaker 3 (26:58):
I watched the game, Yeah, I watched it. I called it.
I said, Florida will win. They would cover, they would cover,
and the total points will hit the over total goals,
total goals. Yeah, well, I mean you know what I meant.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
They got annihilated.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
You can get points in hockey too, by the way, right,
you can't get points in hockey for a winn a
regular season. They give me points, they give you anyway
total goals. It was like, what six or something.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'll be honest, this is not anything against the US,
has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm rooting for Edmonton. I have Edmonton winning the series.
But I call it the game correctly last.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Night because and listen, like women probably wouldn't understand this.
Females probably don't understand those. But this is not a
sexist statement. This is just how guys off. Well, it's
already a sexist statement, no, because because I think they
have warmer hearts than guys do. So you got to
get in that.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It's on that hand, I mean, there's some dudes that
that feel like right in the month of June, I mean,
they feel like they can say the same exact thing
as her. Okay, so but this is this is twenty
twenty five, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Like times have changed, but this is necessarily say that.
So this is what I this is what I mean
by that. Okay, if do you have you ever found
have you ever found yourself? Have you ever found yourself?
Rooting against your buddies team just because it's your buddies team. No,
you've never found yourself doing that. You're a hater for that.
(28:33):
That's a hater of a different Now that you've never
sat with your buddy while his team loses and busted his.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Balls for it.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, that's different.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I internalize that differently, all right. I'm thinking, like my
buddy's on the team.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
No, no, no, rooting for the team like a fan of
a team. That's the best. That's what I'm saying. That's
the best. So Brady Quinn and Pete Prisco loved the
Florida Panthers, I'm willing to set aside. I had my
loyalty to the Uscus to root for Edmonton, to give
them the Blues, and I couldn't care less about Edmonton.
I just wanted to say our three yeah today, right, yeah,
(29:11):
Well then he's he's riding a high today. Yeah, they're up.
So we might not get a red ass p Prisco today.
Maybe it'll be a little bit more gentle. Hopefully not,
though I mean hopefully not. By the way, it was
that considered a superlative gentle. I don't know. Sweet it
was made official it was made official yesterday Jim Mersey's
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daughters takeover ownership of the Colts following the passing of
their father a couple of weeks ago. So all three
have worked within the organization for years. Even though they're there,
they have, you know, are part of the day to
day operations. That's a daunting task to take over that
team while grieving, and for an owner who's also your father,
(30:01):
who happens to be one of the more popular and
was one of the more popular owners in.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
The end, definitely polarizing. I mean, he was a polarizing figure.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Like the amount of pressure you've got to feel to
take the reins from that, even if you've been there
day to day and they've worked within the organization, that's
a lot for anybody to just sort of have that
handed to you. And it's like, yeah, everybody wants to
be an NFL owner, but man, you want it under
the right circumstances. And said they're sort of thrusted into
(30:30):
the situation and now they've got to take over the team.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It's an interesting take. I tend to fall on the
side if I'm gonna have problems, that's the type of
problem I'd.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Love to have.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, I mean, hey, let my dad be successful enough,
my granddad be successful enough where he passed it down
to his son, my dad, and now my dad has
passed it down to me, you know, to us. I
would much rather want to navigate that and figure that
one out versus you left me nothing. I mean most
(31:02):
people get left nothing. In fact, most people get left
a bill or two or three, whether it's something that
they still owe taxes or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It may be burying them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Like, wait, hold on, you're going to hit me with
a parting a parting gift of having to pay to bury.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
You, you know what I mean. So that's a full
blown racket. It's expensive. A funeral, it's expensive.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's expensive, and especially if you want to do it
the right way, it's expensive.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
And you do all of that.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Not in your case obviously, but most people, you do
all of that just to allow the grass to grow
over their their headstone. I mean we're being honest. Yeah, Well,
that's why I don't want to get buried. You know,
That's why I'm glad I made the cause. I was
just talking to Alex Brown yesterday. I interviewed Alex Brown
(31:56):
and Kevin Hardy yesterday, So be on the lookout for
that Alex around underrated player. Oh man, beast. We came
out the same year. Came out high school the same year.
I came out of college earlier, but we came out
same year. Anyway, dope do I had a pretty funny
Alex Brown story because you're a big Chicago that involves
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Oh, we'll go ahead, right, So remember Michael Haynes. So
we took Mike Haynes, all right, Chicago took So Alex
Brown was at a Bears draft party with Mike North,
the radio legend Mike North, and they announced the Chicago
Bears select Michael Haynes, and North looks over at Alex
(32:38):
Brown and goes, hey, doesn't he play the same position
as you? Alex Brown's like, yeah, he does.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
It's like it's like, what happened here? He totally caught
off guard, totally blindsided. It's like, what the f man?
Mike Haynes is a good dude, He's a cool dude.
You ain't gonna catch me talking about what about my mom?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
No, But it was more like, I mean I thought
it was Around was a freaking beast. Yeah, it was like, man,
like we're going that direction. It just was how did
that work out? I mean, Alex Brown was a really
good player. I mean he had a good career and
how to work out for my game? I don't think
it worked out well. No, I don't think so. I
(33:22):
don't recall, but yes, I'll.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Still be trying to figure out how Mike got rated
so high. Solid ball player though, But I didn't like
they had him like he was like Courtney. He was
not Courtney. I mean, nobody is Courtney, but he happened
to come right after Courtney, and they was like, I
(33:47):
think it might have been the Courtney Brown effect that
gout him that high, highly rated him and Larry Johnson
being the coach. I don't I don't like just no shade.
I don't want to throw no shade because I love
my bro. But you know, I and I didn't get it.
Alex Brown's a beast. The point I was making, though,
what was my point that you were talking with Alex Brown?
(34:07):
What was the point of me talking to Alex Brown?
What you want to be remembered by? What was it
that I was We were basing our conversation off.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Of, Oh, I think we're talking about funerals now expensive they.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Are, Yeah, but leaving maybe leaving something. I don't know,
I forget whatever. Let's go on, hey, listen, that's called
that's a CTE movement. I totally forgot what we were
talking about.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's all right, true.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
And you started making me think about Mike Haynes though,
and Alex Brown in the same like sentence of comparison,
like Alex Brown, like he I.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Don't let me look him up. I mean, he had.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
A really really productive NFL career, man, I do know that.
I mean they made it to the super Bowl when
he was there, you know, that was when they were
having that really really.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
He was never like he was never a big gonna
get you double digit sacks in a season guy. It
was never gonna be. But he was always productive. He
was always productive. He was always a key member of
that defense. It's a good dude. Yeah. So, but yes,
I really do not like awards wise. Yeah, but you
(35:20):
ask anybody, he was. He was a huge factor on
that team. Those were really good teams in Chicago. He
was a major factor if you ask me. But anyway,
I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Just I'll just say this, Legacies matter, Opportunities matter. Some
people don't get things left behind. You know, to to
progress them and push them forward in life. You know,
in this case the Ursay family, they do. And while
a daunting task it will be, but the idea of
(35:55):
knowing that you're continuing the family legacy is super important.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
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Speaker 3 (36:23):
Everybody deserves a good hype man. I'm proud that Lee
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Speaker 1 (36:29):
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Speaker 4 (37:09):
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Speaker 1 (37:18):
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Speaker 9 (37:25):
Morning everybody, Good morning LeVar, Good morning Jonas.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (37:29):
In case he missed this, uh well maybe in casey
did see this. Deshaun Watson, obviously you know, is recently engaged,
gave his lovely fiance, Jilly Anaeus Annius an As a
two and a half.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Million dollar engagement ring.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
He gave her what was her last.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Name, Anaeus an Ais. The coincidence a nice, yeah, nice, Now,
I know all makes sense that what foreign language is
that that they talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Was it again?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Jilly and is.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Is.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I don't know how to pronounce this. I mean, if
you remove the one of the a's in the last,
it does. Uh uh, that was the appeal. It all
makes sense, It's perfect, all right, cool, God, I'm sorry.
(38:36):
I feel like, why does the lead hee will get
Albert Brear take one letter out it's beer.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Albert, or you leave one or at the end and
it's Brian, which is kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Anyway, New Orleans got well.
Speaker 9 (38:59):
He did drop to a million dollars on her engagement ring,
but he only dropped two hundred thousand dollars on dinner
for his bachelor party at the Hotspot Poppy Steak.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Counting that man's pocket like that. You know my talk
watching Sean Watson. You know, I'm sorry. Who was just
his number?
Speaker 8 (39:15):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I know that's his number. Good for him. You know
he's keeping it glow key. He's not going out and
making a seat. I know what he's doing. I think
everyone knows what's reported. I mean, it's a bachelor party.
It is a bachelor party. I think he was being
scope a mile away.
Speaker 10 (39:31):
I do not think you guys know what that man
is doing with everything that he's doing he's going, he's going,
I'm really going to do this.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I mean, I'm really going to do this. I mean,
you can only about
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Tuesday edition, as we wait for the NBA Finals
to resume, we talk about the details that have come
out on the Aaron Rodgers contract. How likely is it
that he reaches every single cent of that deal. We'll
break it all down. We're also going to talk about
what that means for Kirk Cousins and his future around
(00:23):
the NFL. We will get into a conversation about some
shame people in the media feeling some shame about their
coverage of one NFL quarterback. Plus, we're gonna have another
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wants to take their sweet ass time with getting to
these games, they've extended the talking points or the ability
to talk through the in between of game two and
Game three. But there's nothing really worth talking about when
it comes to that. So we just got to wait
our turn and instead shift gears and focus in on
(01:59):
this story that you thought was going to be done,
and you thought we were going to move on and
just focus on the stuff on the field, and then
all of a sudden, uh, the details started to trickle
out when it comes to Aaron Rodgers and the saga
and signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Who wrote this? Who wrote this? Who typed this out?
When did Albert become Albert Brie?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Mike wrote this? Oh yeah, that was a profate Mike.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
You forgot an r. Yeah it's Breer. I don't know.
I mean, even even the best of the best need editors.
You know that, you know people to proof read it
at least, you know, Albert Albert brie I'm all right, then,
who's that? What insider is that? Huh? Maybe he was
(02:58):
hanging with Lee. Dang hey, Lee, I'm just saying it's
not beyond the realm of possibility that Mike could have been,
you know, bending the elbow a little bit. You know,
Mama's Mama's truth juice, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Uh, Well, listen, he really wanted to read it too, Lee.
He's like, man, he is like me.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You see it, Albert Albert Brieham of s I you say,
oh my god, just ridiculous. Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But that is one of the details that has come
out when it comes to the Aaron Rodgers uh situation
and the details of the contract that he did sign
with the Pittsburgh Steelers. As we mentioned yesterday, we will
get to hear from Rogers. He has scheduled to speak
with the media in Pittsburgh later on today. We did
an over under on how many questions before somebody asked
him about the wedding ring or whatever that ring was yesterday.
(04:02):
We'll await the results and have those results coming up tomorrow.
Did they ask him, No, not yet, because they talk
later today today he's the big day. A today's the
big day. Today's a big day. Yeah, hey, must.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Have the mighty fallen if today is the big day
because you're interviewing a guy you gave a one year
deal that's worth nineteen million dollars, somebody's only going to
make like just one dollar over ten million.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I got news for you, anybody, I got news for you.
Anybody that's got Aaron Rodgers fatigue. Why don't you tell
somebody in the NFL to do us as solve and
get arrested. Okay, give us something else to talk about.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Or go or code, do something else with your for weeks.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah that too. I'm so sick. I'll see you on
a couple months. You sed to you too biggest you came.
(05:05):
Oh my god, I can't get out my mom. I
literally can't get It's been like it's hard to unhear
it and see it once you But uh so so
with that, we do have the details. According to Albert
Brie of SI dot Com, is laid out by Mike Floria.
Well listen, it happens now, who cares? But point is, uh,
(05:27):
the incentives, Hey, I would have caught that. The incentives
that come along with the Aaron Rodgers contract or the
following if he participates in seventy percent of the offensive
snaps in the regular season. If that threshold is satisfied,
here's what he'll get if the Steelers make the playoffs.
Will go one at a time. You tell me how
(05:48):
likely this is, Labar. Steelers make the playoffs, he gets
five hundred thousand dollars. Okay, if they earn a first
round buy and if they win in the wild card round,
Rogers takes at least half the snaps six hundred thousand dollars. Depends,
all right, it depends if they win the divisional round.
And you know, let's what can we spice this up
(06:09):
a little bit? You got any game show music, maybe
Pittsburgh Steeler polka in the style like let's go ahead
and we'll go with the polka. Oh yeah, let's dust
off of parole.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know they played the same thing for Groundhog Day. Yeah,
that's kind of crazy, Phil of the It's the same song,
but they made it the Pittsburgh Steelers song.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
The original guys. Come on, I mean, people have a
lot of perceptions about us, you know how we are.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
But didn't Steelers Poka come before.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I don't know, I probably would, I don't know. That's
that's a that would be a great trivia question. Yeah,
there you go. Steeler Chuck Mall and all his friends
(07:04):
are all coach Chuck, get them the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Hollow Joe used to dance rock Want do Italians dance?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Like?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Why do you adhead?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Italians dance like that?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Coming, so let me jump what hay dancer like? Okay,
come on, man, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Snail trail? Yeah, you can unsee that one either. So
so the we continue on the incentive of gravity, the
incentive details of the Aaron Rodgers contract. Uh if so
these Steelers they earn a first round by if they
went in the wildcard round with Rogers taking at least
(07:56):
half the snaps to get six hundred grand. If they
win in the divisional round and Rogers takes at least
half the snaps, seven hundred and fifty thousand, still doable.
All of those are doable.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I don't think they'll win the division but I think
all like they could possibly I think they'll make the playoffs.
They could possibly win their divisional round in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So are they going to win the AFC title game?
Because if so, no, Rogers and Rogers takes at least
half the snaps, he gets a million dollars. Yeah, no,
if they wouldn't stick. And you know what, you.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Want to know what's ridiculous about them doing that? I mean,
I'm gonna just be honest. What's what's ridiculous about them
doing that is if if you're expecting Aaron Rodgers to
be that good Okay, we get, we can stop, we
can get yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, this is I'm a stripper music.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Hey hey, easy, now talking about my hometown.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
So here's the.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Thing, right, if you're bringing Aaron Rodgers in, and you're
bringing him in with the idea that he's that good
where he can win the AFC North your division, or
he can get you into the playoffs out of your
division as a wild card, if you believe he's good
enough to get you out of the divisional round, if
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you believe he's good enough to get you to the
AFC Championship Game, if you believe he's good enough to
get you to the Super Bowl. Why the hell did
you give him this little ass one year contract? And
if you're going to give him a one year contract,
why did you give him a contract that is comparable
(09:46):
comparable to a rookie? Because this isn't his contract comparable
to cam Warts. It's less than that. It's less than
cam Warts. So that that would be my quick this
would be my question. This is where I'm having a
hard time trying to keep these gators on the ground.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Give me three claps.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
In a woooo. This is the problem I have with
it again. And I said this yesterday. You know how
they say the sayings to all these these athletes that
are coming up. You can't go in the backyard and
give and give a regular effort and expect all American results.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
You can't set the stage for the standard to be
that high, and you're not setting the standard of what
the belief is coming into it. So to me, it's
like if you believe that you can do discounted parts
(10:54):
on a car for the Daytona, If you think you
could do discount it guys to help put the car together.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
If you think you could do a discounted.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Driver to drive your car and you put all these
incentives in there, and you say, Okay, if you come
in first, if you come in second, we're gonna pay
you all this money, which isn't even that much money,
but we're gonna pay you all this money if you're
(11:26):
able to go out there drive this car with generic parts,
guys that aren't the best in the business, putting the
car together, making sure they run the proper diagnostics of it,
and this, that and the other, and know that the car,
without a shadow of a doubt, is running at the
highest of levels when you drive it and the driver
(11:48):
is like, I don't know, maybe ranked thirtieth out of.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
All the drivers driving. And you're saying, but if you're.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
A to be as good as the top half of
those guys, because if he's coming out of the AFC,
that means he had to be better than Lamar Jackson,
let's not let's not even go outside of the north
just yet. You had to be better than Jackson. You
had to be better than Burrow. You had to be
better than Mahomes. You had to be better than Allen.
(12:20):
You had to be better than.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Stroud.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You had to be better than the upper Echellance players
in the AFC and you don't even get you don't
even get paid like any of those guys. To me,
this is a problematic situation because you're hadging your bets,
You're feeling like you're getting a ton of value without
(12:47):
having to pay for it. So I don't understand why
you could think the results are going to be this profound,
outstanding result when that's not what you paid for and
wasn't last year enough of an example of this is
not the way to go about doing it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean we're not even done yet, coming. I mean,
do you want to know how he can earn an
extra three million dollars Aaron Rodgers if they win the
Super Bowl and if he's the MVP of the regular season,
extra three million bucks?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I'm again again, I'll say again, I'll say if you,
if you're if you believe that he holds that type
of value at this point, will you bring him into
your your organization where you would actually put those things
which listen, a contract is a contract. You're going to
put escalators and the incentives into the contract. Problem is
(13:44):
is that you got to have somebody who stimulated and
motivated by those types of incentives that are connected to
those types of numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
My biggest question to you, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Would be is are these incentives along with those accomplishments.
Is it feasible to think that Aaron Rodgers is motivated
by the dollars and the incentives to go after it
and get it for the amount of time he's going
to have to go out there and get it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, that's why this another detail that came out yesterday
about the contract which is kind of interesting, And this
also pointed out by Mike Florio that sources tell him
that Rogers would have played for even less than the
Daily signed, but that his agent pushed him to take more.
It's still not knowing how Rogers can pump up his
pay from thirteen to nineteen. But at that time they
(14:39):
were like, well, you know, one of the factors is
winning the Super Bowl, etc. So, as we laid out,
that's how you get to that number. But even at
that number, reportedly Rogers would have taken less, but his
agent said, no, take a little bit more. Now, whether
or not that's true, I who the hell knows, well,
whether it's true or not, does it matter?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
No, And you've got he's you have discounted Aaron Rodgers
so now he's doing the belt discount double check, not
just for the commercial, for the insurance or whatever. He's
doing it because that's his real reality right now.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, and also the other aspect, and we kind of
touched on this a little bit yesterday that people were
pointing out was well, it was the Steelers third option
because as we laid out, they wanted Matthew Stafford, they
wanted to resign justin Field, so they settled on Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Oh and by the way, what number were they option
wise for Aaron Rodgers? I mean, nobody, Neither one of
them is coming to the party and has left the party.
Like me, dude, like me, I'm leaving the party with
who I wanted to leave with. Otherwise I'm gonna leave alone.
Like that's just not it's just not worth it to
(15:47):
leave the party with somebody that you didn't want to
leave the party with. But unfortunately for you, unfortunately for
the other person involved, you.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Didn't get who you wanted. Okay, But I think that
the way that that is laid out, okay, has made
it to something, has made it to sound way, It's
made it probably not made it to sound way worse
than it actually is so, because if you just broke
down each individual player that they're discussing here, Well, they
(16:20):
wanted Matthew Stafford they get of course, other teams wanted
Matthew Stafford. The Giants wanted Matthew Stafford, like, there was
other teams that were in the mix for Matthew Stafford.
They didn't get him, then it was well, they wanted
justin Fields not bad enough. The Jets wanted him more. Yeah,
I mean, let's let's not pretend like the other was
an offer made. They were far apart on guaranteed money.
(16:42):
But if it was so, if everything was going so smoothly,
why did they still ride with Russell Wilson towards the
end when Russell Wilson and the offensive coordinator Arthur Smith
didn't even get along and people in the building wanted
them to go back to Justin Fields, and still they
didn't make the move.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And by the way, if this is the deal he
gave Aaron Rodgers, what did the dal look like you
was offering justin Field?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's my point, is this idea that people are looking
at this as, oh, well, he's just the third option,
and they're taking all right, fine, But what does it
matter if you actually broke all that down? Matthew Stafford
was a pipe dream, justin Field's. Clearly it didn't go
well enough, else they wouldn't have let him out of
the building or let him lose that starting job last year.
(17:27):
And it wasn't because of injury or really poor play.
They just wanted to give the opportunity to Russell Wilson.
So Rogers is your guy. The incentive, the contract, all
of that stuff. I don't think any of it matters.
The bottom line is this is more than likely Rogers
last year. And if things go poorly enough, as it
doesn't matter yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
It doesn't matter for Aaron because you ain't paying me
that much anyway, Like you gave me an opportunity to
come play another year.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Thank you, good night in God. And I don't think
that in the back of his mind this is all well,
super Bowl, super Bowl, I gotta win another Super Bowl.
I think he's at peace with it. What is it then?
Why are you doing it? I think he wants to
go out on a smoother note than what happened with
the Jets. That's my thought. My opinion is I think
he looks at what happened with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
You're not You're not going to undo what you did
in those two seasons with one season unless you win
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I think it's I don't think and if.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He thinks that he's going to undo what took place
in New York with the amount of talent that was
on that team and he got a one year reprieve
because he got hurt in year one. If he thinks
that he's going to go into Pittsburgh and win a
Super Bowl and that's going to erase everything that has
happened in New York and he can walk out of
the league in the game with a blaze of glory,
(18:51):
that should be disturbing.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
If he finished last year either on the bench, injured,
couldn't come back to full health, or looked similar to
how Kirk Cousins looked last year in Atlanta, I don't
think Rogers comes back. I think the back end of
last season and the way that the Jets wanted to
maybe move on or distance themselves from him, I think
(19:15):
he looked at that and said.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
All right, screw it. All right.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
If there's a situation that I look at and go
all right, no drama, no weirdness tied to the organization,
no dysfunction. If there's a place similar to what I
came in the league with in Green Bay, it's probably Pittsburgh.
And I think he goes out after a year with Pittsburgh.
Can you say that?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
What can we really say that about the Pittsburgh Steelers?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
All Right, you might want to think about that. I mean, look,
think about it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They just got rid of their number one receiver, who
was their number one receiver before picking.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But to their credit, when they've had issues elsewhere, whether
it be Antonio Brown and all that stuff, you heard
maybe some rumblings, it wasn't until those guys are out
the building that you're like, oh God, I'm gonna pushback
on that one. I think the job.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I think there has been drama that has come out
of the locker room far before, like long before those
guys were being let go. I think the rumblings of
what that locker room is like, what the deterioration of
the culture of what the Pittsburgh Steelers have historically represented
(20:28):
has been discussed. I think it has been discussed, and
I think it has been a growing conversation since Ben
Roethlisberger's last few years there. It's been that long that
the conversation of questioning the like ask ask Terry Bradshaw,
(20:51):
He'll tell you. You know, you sit there and you
hear some of the older guys that played for the
team and talking about it, even listening to Plexica, We'll
talk about it at one point. The one thing that
has been discussed by guys who have played there has ultimately,
in a lot of regards, has been the same. It's like,
(21:12):
people love Mike Tomlin, people believe in Mike Tomlin, but
there's elements of what the culture that was representation of
what Pittsburgh was and has been historically, has been deteriorating.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, but you can't. You can't even put them in
the Jets in the same category of dysfunction.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
You can't put them in the set. You cannot put
them in the same category.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That is true. That is very true. And I think
that that element with the Jets was probably a turn off.
And even in saying that, Rogers was like, listen, I'm
open to coming back. I feel good about how my
body went and was progressing at the end of last year,
and I'd like to give it another go. And they
wanted to move in a different direction. I think he
(21:56):
still believes that the back end of last season that
he can still play at a high enough level that
why not give it one more year?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Which one is better? A better loser or just a
bad loser? Which one is better? What do you mean,
which one's better? Would you rather be a better loser
or just a bad loser. I'd rather be a better loser,
would you?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Because then I can blame people around me. See to me,
to me.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
The Pittsburgh Steelers are a better loser, meaning they win,
they go to the playoffs, they don't have losing seasons,
but the expectations for them are so low for a
team that wins, whereas the New York Jets, it's like
everything is a bonus.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
If you do well.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Bonus, win a game, bonus, make it to the playoffs,
bonus your division, bonus when your conference.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Holy Holy, the world is coming to an end. Let's
not give this.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Let's make it to the super Bowl. Play for a
super Bowl? Holy smokes? What what comes next? As it rain?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I mean, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Saying, bro, I'd rather be a bad loser than than
a good loser. So if you're gonna suck, suck if
I'm gonna lose. I don't want to be a fringe loser.
It's it's false hope. And you know what it does.
It creates false expectations. And you know what, false expectations
turn into rage, Yeah, but anger.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
But it does leave, uh, leave a little bit of
some interesting storylines for week one when they got the jets,
you know.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
And it made for a good storyline today, you know,
and in the heat of June, the dog days of radio.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Ain no dog days. I don't need no cat days
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We've also got Lee's Leftovers, an hour three of the program.
Pete Prisco's going to stop by. That'll be yours here.
(24:07):
All of it is yours on this three hour extravaganza.
Up next though a major change in the NFL. We've
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Speaker 4 (24:15):
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Speaker 1 (24:29):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
about fifteen minutes from now we're going to we are
going to get the details on one of the great
parties all NFL offseason. That'll be yours here again a
little of fifteen minutes from now here on FSR. What
(24:59):
is going on there in the back? You know what?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
This show should have been called? What's that Animal House?
I think that if our show was called animal House,
it would be way more popular. Animal House is not
the one with with Belushi in them?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah? Have another? Yeah, you know I've never seen that movie. No,
never seen it through. Yeah, shame, I don't know what.
Hang shame. What are you doing your stuff in your
face with chicken nuggets?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
At three thirty in the morning.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Feeding time, you must have gotten torched last night. You
might have gone absolutely mangled. I mean there was no
games on, so.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, you know what, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, I mean some would argue, some would argue you
need to be more focused, so you could you know,
make sure we could get through a show. Who We're
already one one down, you know, I mean, what's two?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I mean some would argue that, you know, there was
a game on last night, so much so that it
is Florida Baby, our tire rack play of the day, White.
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Speaker 3 (26:58):
I watched the game, Yeah, I watched it. I called it.
I said, Florida will win. They would cover, they would cover,
and the total points will hit the over total goals,
total goals. Yeah, well, I mean you know what I meant.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
They got annihilated.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
You can get points in hockey too, by the way, right,
you can't get points in hockey for a winn a
regular season. They give me points, they give you anyway
total goals. It was like, what six or something.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'll be honest, this is not anything against the US,
has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm rooting for Edmonton. I have Edmonton winning the series.
But I call it the game correctly last.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Night because and listen, like women probably wouldn't understand this.
Females probably don't understand those. But this is not a
sexist statement. This is just how guys off. Well, it's
already a sexist statement, no, because because I think they
have warmer hearts than guys do. So you got to
get in that.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It's on that hand, I mean, there's some dudes that
that feel like right in the month of June, I mean,
they feel like they can say the same exact thing
as her. Okay, so but this is this is twenty
twenty five, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Like times have changed, but this is necessarily say that.
So this is what I this is what I mean
by that. Okay, if do you have you ever found
have you ever found yourself? Have you ever found yourself?
Rooting against your buddies team just because it's your buddies team. No,
you've never found yourself doing that. You're a hater for that.
(28:33):
That's a hater of a different Now that you've never
sat with your buddy while his team loses and busted his.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Balls for it.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, that's different.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I internalize that differently, all right. I'm thinking, like my
buddy's on the team.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
No, no, no, rooting for the team like a fan of
a team. That's the best. That's what I'm saying. That's
the best. So Brady Quinn and Pete Prisco loved the
Florida Panthers, I'm willing to set aside. I had my
loyalty to the Uscus to root for Edmonton, to give
them the Blues, and I couldn't care less about Edmonton.
I just wanted to say our three yeah today, right, yeah,
(29:11):
Well then he's he's riding a high today. Yeah, they're up.
So we might not get a red ass p Prisco today.
Maybe it'll be a little bit more gentle. Hopefully not,
though I mean hopefully not. By the way, it was
that considered a superlative gentle. I don't know. Sweet it
was made official it was made official yesterday Jim Mersey's
(29:35):
daughters takeover ownership of the Colts following the passing of
their father a couple of weeks ago. So all three
have worked within the organization for years. Even though they're there,
they have, you know, are part of the day to
day operations. That's a daunting task to take over that
team while grieving, and for an owner who's also your father,
(30:01):
who happens to be one of the more popular and
was one of the more popular owners in.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
The end, definitely polarizing. I mean, he was a polarizing figure.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Like the amount of pressure you've got to feel to
take the reins from that, even if you've been there
day to day and they've worked within the organization, that's
a lot for anybody to just sort of have that
handed to you. And it's like, yeah, everybody wants to
be an NFL owner, but man, you want it under
the right circumstances. And said they're sort of thrusted into
(30:30):
the situation and now they've got to take over the team.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It's an interesting take. I tend to fall on the
side if I'm gonna have problems, that's the type of
problem I'd.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Love to have.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, I mean, hey, let my dad be successful enough,
my granddad be successful enough where he passed it down
to his son, my dad, and now my dad has
passed it down to me, you know, to us. I
would much rather want to navigate that and figure that
one out versus you left me nothing. I mean most
(31:02):
people get left nothing. In fact, most people get left
a bill or two or three, whether it's something that
they still owe taxes or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It may be burying them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Like, wait, hold on, you're going to hit me with
a parting a parting gift of having to pay to bury.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
You, you know what I mean. So that's a full
blown racket. It's expensive. A funeral, it's expensive.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's expensive, and especially if you want to do it
the right way, it's expensive.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
And you do all of that.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Not in your case obviously, but most people, you do
all of that just to allow the grass to grow
over their their headstone. I mean we're being honest. Yeah, Well,
that's why I don't want to get buried. You know,
That's why I'm glad I made the cause. I was
just talking to Alex Brown yesterday. I interviewed Alex Brown
(31:56):
and Kevin Hardy yesterday, So be on the lookout for
that Alex around underrated player. Oh man, beast. We came
out the same year. Came out high school the same year.
I came out of college earlier, but we came out
same year. Anyway, dope do I had a pretty funny
Alex Brown story because you're a big Chicago that involves
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Oh, we'll go ahead, right, So remember Michael Haynes. So
we took Mike Haynes, all right, Chicago took So Alex
Brown was at a Bears draft party with Mike North,
the radio legend Mike North, and they announced the Chicago
Bears select Michael Haynes, and North looks over at Alex
(32:38):
Brown and goes, hey, doesn't he play the same position
as you? Alex Brown's like, yeah, he does.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
It's like it's like, what happened here? He totally caught
off guard, totally blindsided. It's like, what the f man?
Mike Haynes is a good dude, He's a cool dude.
You ain't gonna catch me talking about what about my mom?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
No, But it was more like, I mean I thought
it was Around was a freaking beast. Yeah, it was like, man,
like we're going that direction. It just was how did
that work out? I mean, Alex Brown was a really
good player. I mean he had a good career and
how to work out for my game? I don't think
it worked out well. No, I don't think so. I
(33:22):
don't recall, but yes, I'll.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Still be trying to figure out how Mike got rated
so high. Solid ball player though, But I didn't like
they had him like he was like Courtney. He was
not Courtney. I mean, nobody is Courtney, but he happened
to come right after Courtney, and they was like, I
(33:47):
think it might have been the Courtney Brown effect that
gout him that high, highly rated him and Larry Johnson
being the coach. I don't I don't like just no shade.
I don't want to throw no shade because I love
my bro. But you know, I and I didn't get it.
Alex Brown's a beast. The point I was making, though,
what was my point that you were talking with Alex Brown?
(34:07):
What was the point of me talking to Alex Brown?
What you want to be remembered by? What was it
that I was We were basing our conversation off.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Of, Oh, I think we're talking about funerals now expensive they.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Are, Yeah, but leaving maybe leaving something. I don't know,
I forget whatever. Let's go on, hey, listen, that's called
that's a CTE movement. I totally forgot what we were
talking about.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's all right, true.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
And you started making me think about Mike Haynes though,
and Alex Brown in the same like sentence of comparison,
like Alex Brown, like he I.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Don't let me look him up. I mean, he had.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
A really really productive NFL career, man, I do know that.
I mean they made it to the super Bowl when
he was there, you know, that was when they were
having that really really.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
He was never like he was never a big gonna
get you double digit sacks in a season guy. It
was never gonna be. But he was always productive. He
was always productive. He was always a key member of
that defense. It's a good dude. Yeah. So, but yes,
I really do not like awards wise. Yeah, but you
(35:20):
ask anybody, he was. He was a huge factor on
that team. Those were really good teams in Chicago. He
was a major factor if you ask me. But anyway,
I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Just I'll just say this, Legacies matter, Opportunities matter. Some
people don't get things left behind. You know, to to
progress them and push them forward in life. You know,
in this case the Ursay family, they do. And while
a daunting task it will be, but the idea of
(35:55):
knowing that you're continuing the family legacy is super important.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Uh. It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next here, LeVar
Arrington and Jonas Knox are going to give you the
details of one the can't miss party of the summer
in the NFL. That's yours here on FSR.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
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Speaker 3 (36:23):
Everybody deserves a good hype man. I'm proud that Lee
has Lorena.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here coming up top
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There is some people feeling some shame in the NFL. Shame.
We will get into that for you again coming up
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Speaker 4 (37:09):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
After that, we turn it over to our executive producer
Lee Lapp.
Speaker 9 (37:25):
Morning everybody, Good morning LeVar, Good morning Jonas.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (37:29):
In case he missed this, uh well maybe in casey
did see this. Deshaun Watson, obviously you know, is recently engaged,
gave his lovely fiance, Jilly Anaeus Annius an As a
two and a half.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Million dollar engagement ring.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
He gave her what was her last.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Name, Anaeus an Ais. The coincidence a nice, yeah, nice, Now,
I know all makes sense that what foreign language is
that that they talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Was it again?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Jilly and is.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Is.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I don't know how to pronounce this. I mean, if
you remove the one of the a's in the last,
it does. Uh uh, that was the appeal. It all
makes sense, It's perfect, all right, cool, God, I'm sorry.
(38:36):
I feel like, why does the lead hee will get
Albert Brear take one letter out it's beer.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Albert, or you leave one or at the end and
it's Brian, which is kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Anyway, New Orleans got well.
Speaker 9 (38:59):
He did drop to a million dollars on her engagement ring,
but he only dropped two hundred thousand dollars on dinner
for his bachelor party at the Hotspot Poppy Steak.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Counting that man's pocket like that. You know my talk
watching Sean Watson. You know, I'm sorry. Who was just
his number?
Speaker 8 (39:15):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I know that's his number. Good for him. You know
he's keeping it glow key. He's not going out and
making a seat. I know what he's doing. I think
everyone knows what's reported. I mean, it's a bachelor party.
It is a bachelor party. I think he was being
scope a mile away.
Speaker 10 (39:31):
I do not think you guys know what that man
is doing with everything that he's doing he's going, he's going,
I'm really going to do this.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I mean, I'm really going to do this. I mean,
you can only about
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