June 13, 2025 • 41 mins
It’s a Football Friday the 13th on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and the Bengals first round pick walks away from minicamp because of contract disputes. Mike Tomlin wants to move camp to later in the day so players feel the heat. Plus, arrest warrants for AB, bronze statues and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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same old, how about the same old New York Knicks
as well too, what a mess that's turned into. We're
also going to talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers trying something
new when it comes to training camp or is it old.
(00:22):
We'll get into that. We're going to discuss the very
latest on the Black and Drag Tour, which apparently only
lasted one hour. We've got Dallas and Dak Prescott glowingly
talking about George Pickens, but forgetting that it's only June
and there's a lot more time for dysfunction. You've also
got another edition of the topic round Up. The NFL
owners are cheap skates, but why Plus, we've got somebody
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else in the NFL who's not going anywhere anytime soon.
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Speaker 3 (01:56):
I screw you.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
To Pete Prisco and and Brady Quinn. Pete today the
Florida Panthers blowhards. Well, I can't we have Brady today.
Damn glad we have others today?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So we are we are often running here on this
Friday morning.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Are we running or are we just off?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Listen, we're well, We're not off. We're running. We're running
a gun in here. And you know it's good that
you can depend on the usual suspects for storylines around
the National Football League at this time of year, I
would say that and the usual suspects would be the
Cincinnati Bengals who just cannot help themselves. Cannot help themselves.
(02:41):
This is uh par for the course when it comes
to the Cincinnati Bengals. We have chronicled the situation with
Shamar Stewart. He's unhappy with a new method the Bengals
are taking when it comes to being able to avoid
certain guarantees and rookie contracts. He wants it to go
back to the way that they've always done it. They're
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trying to do something new, and so Shamar Stewart spoke
out about it earlier this week and then you know,
just decided yesterday I'm out of here, and he decided
to leave Mini camp in the midst of this contract
dispute with the Cincinnati Bengals, Zach Taylor was asked about
it and just kind of well, you know, didn't seem
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all that please. You know, he would have preferred that
it was maybe kept a little more in house whatnot.
But also, Bengals Center and most importantly NFLPA Vice President
Ted Carris defended not only Shamar Stuart, but also Trey
Hendrickson amidst his demand for a new contract with Cincy.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It's not the best case scenario of how the spring
could have gone for our first round pick.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But you know, there is a.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Pretty serious business aspect to our profession, and you know,
he's taking counsel from his you know camp, and uh,
you know, I I don't The main thing I want
to say is I don't think to either of our
defensive ends that there's not any harboring resentment in this
locker room to them, I know, and I really hope
that both camps can figure this out because we have
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a you know, we have a really good team. We've
had a super productive spring, and you know, you just
don't want this to carry over into into summer. I
think from a PA perspective, always, we don't want you know,
language and contracts that are gonna be negative to players.
As far as guaranteed money, we're always trying to you know,
max the amount of guarantees that guys get. So you know,
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it's a business negotiation, and you know, I just i'm
you know, I feel I feel for Shamar that you know,
he has to kind of this is his first taste
of the league with you know, kind of a lot
of hate. Hate on the internet, not hate, but since
the Twitter is a mess around, so I, you know,
I hope that he can come and be super productive
and fall and and kind of get everyone back in
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his side.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Your Cincinnati Bengals just delivering the goods every offseason. Joe
Burrow called it the distraction. They've made it a point
and a priority this offseason to take care of the offense.
You've got two players on defense, one of which was
the SAX leader a year ago. That's been dragging on
for quite some time and just can't seem to get
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those defensive deals done for whatever reason. You know, Jermaine
Pratt was a longtime Bangal. He's gone. He was looking
to get traded because they wouldn't work on a new
deal with him. He just signed with the Raiders. It
just feels like they've made it very clear what they're
prioritizing this offseason going into next.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I thought Teed made a great point on the Twitter, Twitter, Twitter,
SINCI fans and social media and how that plays apart
in all of this. Whenever a rookie, I'll just start
with rookie, I'll stay with rookie instead of Hendrickson right
this moment. But as far as with a rookie who
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has never played for your team yet has not been
able to establish themselves yet in the community, the new
community that they're in, I wonder how much the organization
takes that into consideration when all of these things are
taking place, because generally speaking, the fans aren't going to
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be forgiving to the player. It's the weirdest phenomenon. It's
not like the fans are like, what is since he
doing da da da, this, that and the other, and no,
you're gonna have a large sector of the fan base
harassing and talking crazy to the player as if the
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player doesn't know what he's doing. Is that the player
is greedy or the player is something other and it
has a damaging effect. I know. I was what they
said air quotes a holdout And it's interesting because what
does Schamar Stewart in terms of a contract have right now?
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You know what he has right now? J nothing. So
if you have nothing, you can't be a holdout. Like
think about it. The idea that guys start to get
labeled holdouts. The term is if it's being used correctly.
A holdout is someone who is working for you and
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they don't show up to work. That's holding out. But
if I don't have a contract with you, I don't
have a job. So technically you haven't even officially hired
me yet. This is not a holdout. This is first
things first. Like, players get accused of a lot of
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things sometimes, and one of the things that they can
be accused of is not handling their business properly. It
comes up a lot, you know, the immaturity or the
lack of attention to the detail of this, and it's like, okay,
But when you do have athletes that are paying attention
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to the details and they are doing things the right
way and they are putting business first, they're they're putting
a a bad way into a bad bag because of
that decision that they're making. Schamar Stoer and his team
are making a valid, a valid point to why would
you take guarantees out? Look, why would you avoid my
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guarantees other than me doing something that to me is
taking away from the franchise and the shield. Why else
would you? Why else would you cancel out any guarantees
that you put in my contract.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Especially if he's just asking for the same thing you've
always done this year.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It makes no sense. It makes no sense. It makes
no sense. And now you're you're creating you're creating drama,
You're creating friction. Whether there's hard feelings held after or not.
He's going to be Schamar the rookie. He's going to
be judged by some of these these fans, and some
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of them may never even forgive them. Ah, he's greedy,
d that, this, that, and the other. We don't need
those types of players. Like what do you mean, what
do you mean you don't need these types of players?
What type of player is he? The type of player
that wants a fear contract, Like he's going to get
his opportunity to play, but now he's missing reps, he's
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he's missing practices. And these coaches, whether they'll admit it
or not, they're partial towards the guys that are there.
And so now you're you've created a disconnec possibly between
player and coaches. You've possibly created a disconnect between player
and fans, and you've possibly created friction and a disconnect
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between organization and fans. It's a lose on all on
all fronts and for what, what is the reasoning behind
making this a sticking point to getting the deal done.
It's it's unbelievable to me. I don't understand it. And
unless the Cincinnati Bengals front office comes out with clarity
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on what this represents, I think it's a problem. And
it's not the type of problem you need when your
team that has the type of tack that it has
and the possibilities that exist, and you your top draft
pick is not around because of a technicality. It's not
a number. It's not really a number. It's it's a
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tech don't void out my guarantees. If it's that simple,
and that plane, that man's contract should have been done
and signed and he should have been in and not
being a storyline that surrounds your team or the National
Football League just seems unwarranted, unnecessary and unneeded.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And also just from a big picture standpoint of your
the Bengals, and this doesn't even take getting into the
details of the contract and all. You have a window here,
and you have an opportunity with a franchise quarter a
legitimate franchise quarterback that you drafted in his prime, that
you've heard glowing reviews from anybody who's watched him. You've
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got whether it's Dan Troy Aikman says, he's one of
my favorite quarterbacks of all time. You got your guy
because you sucked so bad that he was sitting there
and you were in the perfect spot to draft him,
and you got the deal done. He's got his eensine.
You have this window and this opportunity to do something special.
You went to a super Bowl and he wasn't even
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in his prime yet. He like, you've got a guy
who actually has beaten Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game
which is rarefied air, and has had success against the
dynasty of his era, and they're like, you know, nickel
and diming a guy who led the league in sacks,
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trying to do something different for a rookie than they've
done every other It just feels like this organization is
potentially going to get in the way of this opportunity
to maybe.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You're going to get away your own self.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Blows my mind.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
There's probably sure your biggest opponent asked me.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Right here, me do the Bengals have in their bye week?
They got the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
They don't get a Bengals here.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I just like, I don't There's there's probably teams around
the NFL that are looking at the Bengals going, what
are you doing? We would love to have your problems
like oh, he kissing, you can't seem to figure out
how you can pay. I don't get it. It seems
so obvious to me. And for some reason, the Bengals
are like, Ana, na, Na, We'll just you know, we're
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still trying to figure this whole thing out. No, this
should be obvious. Whatever it takes, get the deal done.
And when Shamar Stewart says and talks about the players
in the locker room that have been supportive of him,
and he said that, you know, a couple of days ago,
like that tells me there's probably veterans that are like
talking to him, like we discussed when we broke down
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him making those comments that are like, man, you do
what you need to do. This is not on you,
This is on them, Like this is on them. It's
just it's such a bad look for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Man, I just don't feel like this is a heel
you need to put your toes down on, put your
flag in and die on. Just not the one and
for all of this. Now you're saying you're setting a
new precedence for how you handle rookies, which now you
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already have a slotted a slotted number in the NFL draft.
It's not like you need to be really negotiating. It's
kind of already slotted. The numbers are the numbers. So
get the contract done and get moving like it just
doesn't make very much sense at all. It's your first
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round draft pick. Get the contract done. That used to
be a thing. It used to be a thing back
when the NFLPA and the NFL didn't have the deal
the way it's done now. It used to be a thing.
You know, he's asking for too much money or this
language here isn't good enough for the situation. Got to
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figure out what that looks like. Like those were different
times because you were negotiating dollars. And while I'll say, okay,
this does include dollars, because obviously, if you can avoid guarantees,
have they released and this is a very important piece
of the puzzle. Have they released what guarantees they're fighting
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to be able to cancel in the contract? Has the
details of that come out yet?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
So, from my understanding, based on it, and if you
give me a sec I can pull up the wording
because I think it was the Cincinnati Inquirer who wrote
about what exactly the hold up is. And from my understanding,
according to the Cincinnati Enquirer, let's see me. Let me
find this exactly. Okay, give me one sack here. But
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it's something along the lines of the injury like injury
guarantees that they're trying to be able to void Wade
that they haven't done before, something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But it's so basically any any roster or any bonuses
that he would have, any guarantees he would have if
he gets injured, they want those void, those to be
voided out. They don't want they don't want to have
the Deshaun Watson situation. They don't want to have a
guy come in have guarantees but gets injured and isn't playing.
(16:28):
Is that like what that sounds like?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Here's the from this is from Adam Schefter on the
clause that is in the contract isn't normal and that's
why Shamar Stewart is objecting the way he is. The Bengals. Uh,
let me find more details on it, but it's just
it's it's an abnormal clause that teams do not normally do,
and the Bengals are now trying to pull off and
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do this year that that's I guess that that's I.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Will say from the other side of it. From the
other side of it, if they're trying to protect their
interests by having something that you know, protects their their
you know, what they have going on, they need to
have the conversation, like they need to explain it so
that the general public has an understanding of why this
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something like this that is considered to be new and
being introduced to the scenario is what they're trying to do. Somebody,
a representative, if you're keeping quiet, seems shady because the
idea of I've already said for as long as I
if you know me, I think publishing and giving public
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knowledge of professional athletes contracts and how much they make
is absurd and it's ridiculous. I really do. And I
also think that it's absurd that that has to be
an element that a rookie has to navigate, because it's not.
It's not on them.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So here's a here's a little more detail for you
from ESPN. According to a source with knowledge of the negotiations.
The sticking point is language in the contract that could
avoid guaranteed money in future years. For example, if Stewart
were suspended even for an off field reason such as
leading with the crown of the helmet or other similar
penalties that could eliminate future guarantees.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean, I'll say, the game is evolving, and if
you're going to go out there and you're doing things
that are egregious towards your your campaign as a player,
and it's egregious towards you know, the campaign of the team.
If you're out there head hunting and playing in a
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way where you're going to get fined or get suspended
or anything like that, disqualified from from games. I get that.
I get that. That's an extreme. That's an extreme, I mean,
but yeah, I mean, let's be real here. Defenders play defense.
So now you basically you want your defender being paranoid
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about if there's a judgment call lift. We've seen plenty
of judgment calls, a questionable you know, ways guys have
been hit and I haven't always agreed with one way
or the other, you know, So so now you're basically
saying you're trying to introduce language that will govern his
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contract and his money based off of something that could
be left to interpretation that happens on the field for
a defender.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And you've never and the most part that I keep
looking at is you've never done that before. This is
the first time you've done something to this extent and
you're picking now to do it. That's his gripe, like,
why now can we just do the one you did
last year or the year before. But for whatever I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Again, evolution happens, Things change, you know, I understand that,
I understand things changing and business being handled. But the
one thing that they don't have on their side is
the fact that it's being done outside of the public eye.
It has become public. And so now that it is
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a public conversation that's taking place and the details of
it are coming to the forefront, is this a big
enough sticking point for you not to have your rookie
signed and ready to go? And I'll just say this,
at the bare minimum, the sad thing about all of
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this is this is business. And that's that's a reality.
Business is business, and now college players are going to
have to adapt and adjust and learn what business is
all about. And so are the colleges. They're going to
have to adapt and adjust. But in the league, sometimes
the necessary and that's not even sometimes, it's every time.
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The necessary evil that's connected to what takes place is
you got to negotiate a contract, and for better or
for worse, if there is evolution of what a player
wants or what the organization wants, those are things that
have to play out between the negotiators, the lawyers, the agents,
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and the people that represent the team. So while we're
sitting here and it is a discussable topic, it still
is one of those topics Jonas where it is a
necessary evil. They're not at training camp yet, and even
if they were at training camp, you get one time
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to do your contract the right way. The only contract
that matters is the contract you have right in front
of you at this moment in time. You get one time,
no guarantees that you get another one. So you got
to take your time to do it properly and do
it the right way so that you're happy with it
and you're comfortable with it because you're going to have
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it for a few years and that could be your
first and only contract that you ever do. So you
better get it right. So it's a necessary evil if
I'm looking at it from the less chaotic, the less
turbulent and confrontational way, it's just a part of it.
It's just said that it has to gain the coverage
and gain the I guess the way that the way
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it's being handled, the way the way people feel about it,
you hate that that has to happen because this is
a necessary evil to negotiate getting to the end of
a contract.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Speaking of necessary evils, I didn't want to point out
here because I think it's important, especially on today. It's
a football Friday. It is a football party Friday. Come on, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
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It's Friday, Yay. Now the cops is looking for They
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get your dance on, get your dance on, get your
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Speaker 1 (23:12):
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Speaker 3 (23:16):
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Speaker 1 (23:24):
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Speaker 3 (23:25):
What I'm talking about Let's switch it up.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
We gotta switch it up.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Let's do it for Eddie. Come on Friday night at
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Could you imagine having an announcer announce you getting ready
to go to work and walking out the door to
go get it done like you just won, and then
HL playoff game. That'd be pretty good every day, Like
every time you're getting ready, like you're getting ready for work,
you're looking in the mirror and he does it, and
then you go walking out the door to go get
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that way. That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I feel great, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I Mean that's a lot of energy, man, Yeah, that
really is. I feel like it would take the stimuli
or the stimulus level up to like the highighest, the
highest decibel point.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
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I was, you know, offended. They threw out one one
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Speaker 5 (26:28):
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Speaker 1 (26:29):
Some people have called me Dracula before I've seen the
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I came up with black and Drack, which I think,
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Speaker 3 (26:46):
But again, I mean it's original. I mean, black is
not really original from the the skateboarder X games. Dude,
his bodyguard, rest is his soul, you know. But but
black and draged together, Yes, that's that's original.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's got ring to it does It's like ivory. But
like for you guys, yeah, black and drag, that's what
we're working with.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
It happens once a year.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Well you know who's you know, who's back the Steelers? Okay,
who and they're they're back to practicing in the afternoons.
How about that? That's that's the key ingredient to getting
them ready for the season. If you don't believe us,
just take it away. Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, what.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Hot enough last year?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
To be quite honest with you, heat aids in the
development of physical conditioning. It makes it a more stressful environment.
And that's what we go to camp for. We go
to camp to get better and if it's a little
bit more miserable later in the day, man, that's what
we want.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I mean, why not at this point if you're Mike Tomlin,
just dust off all the all the the old hits
and just roll them out there. You know, this could
be the beginning of the end for Mike Tomlin's time
in Pittsburgh. Just roll them all out, try everything. So
now he's going back to the afternoons. You think this
is gonna work or what?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I think? It's a small piece of the puzzle if
it If it works, it works, if it doesn't work.
If things don't work out, I don't think that we
will come back and pinpoint. If they worked out at
this point in time during the day so whether it
works out or not, it's just it's a conversational pieces.
(28:31):
It's certainly it certainly would would be one of the
small Like if you were writing aid or telling a
story about why Michael Tomlin Mike Tomlin lost his job,
I just don't see you talking about what time they
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practice during the day as one of the parts of
the story.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That was really the first big mistake you made was
he started practicing at one PM as opposed to ten am.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
City wanted the guys to be miserable, you know, like cares.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I mean, is there something to do that though? I mean,
you know, I mean, is in Latrobe at July twenty third,
how hot are we talking?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
It is? It's hot and it's humid. It feels disgusting.
It sits on you. You know, the grasshoppers are are
going crazy. They're they're jumping around and they're big, and
it's you can see the heat coming up off of
the ground. Sometimes it be so hot. So, I mean,
he's right, you do want to get your body acclimated
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to being pushed to the limits in that type of heat.
But that's also what off season conditioning is four is
to make that as easy as you know, transition into
real time football as it does. But again, all the
reports and all the story, I still have yet to
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see a pro or college training camp practice yet. I've
never seen one. But I will say, based off of
what I've heard from people as to how practices are
conducted now versus how they used to be, I mean,
that's not something to me that is going to be
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an overwhelming feeling of oh my gosh, I can't believe
this is happening to us type of deal. They take
care of these guys way better than they ever have.
They'll take water breaks in between. Sometimes they take ice
cream breaks and or smoothie breaks or whatever it may be,
you know, nutritional breaks to make sure that they're okay
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and they're well hydrated and stuff like that. So I
think the catering to the athlete at this juncture is
so high, and the understanding of health and hydration is
so well pronounced that sure, you're going to struggle running
in the heat with with your pads on. You're going
(31:07):
to struggle doing a lot of the reps, you know,
getting into that type of condition, and it is a
necessary evil, even if you have been conditioning, even if
you have been preparing. You know, some guys do get
in shape. They some guys do play themselves into shape
during during training cap So I mean it just it
(31:30):
just this generation of athlete is a little bit a
little different. I think they're a little a little more
proactive and like workout culture these days.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Speaking of Latrobe, when's the last time you had yourself
an ice cold Rolling Rock?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm heading to Pittsburgh in a few minutes. I'm literally
getting ready to go, put my clothes on and my
my travel stuff and get out there. So I'm gonna
be in Pittsburgh today.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
What an by the way, bang for your buck? One
of the great beers you can buy still cheap? Oh no,
Rolling Rock Rove.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, Rolling Rock is a dope beer.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's dope bear really underrated. Man. I don't even know
if they're still doing it in Latrob. I don't even
know if the plant is still there. But that was
the the old and I was looking up doing some
research on the Rolling Rock brand and apparently the thirty
three because they've got this mysterious thirty three on the back,
and some have speculated that the thirty three is because
(32:36):
it was the year prohibition was repealed. And it's also
the number of words in the legend printed above the
number on the cans. So like, there's this this message
that you get when you go to buy a Rolling
Rock on the back, it says, from the glass line
tanks of old Latrobe, we tender this premium beer for
(32:58):
your enjoyment, as a tribute to your good taste. How
about that? So he who knows now the Steelers, I'm
not mad at Rolling Rock now, I'm not either, man.
I'm proud of them. Yeah, good for them, man. So
so now listen, if you're if you're one of those
Steelers players, and like, man, it's hot as balls out here.
Maybe just you know, take a little stroll up the road,
(33:19):
get yourself a nice, ice cold rolling Rock out of
a bottle, rip one of those bad boys, and you're
ready for day two.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
And then all of that are at training camps when
they allow the players to come, Like, are the I'm
certain they're able to tailgate in the parking lot while
they're waiting for practices and stuff like that, right, yeah
for them, so that they could, I wonder, because it's
like almost like a picnic picnic style of how you
(33:49):
watch if it's still the same going to to Steelers'
training camps. It's like they have ropes around the field.
You stand behind the ropes, but it's like you could
go sit on a hill, you could go sit anywhere,
like almost like picnic style, and just watch the practices. Now,
I don't know if it's still like that, but I
would assume it is. So. I wonder if you're able to,
(34:12):
you know, pack a cooler up, if they'd like dictate
to you, if you're able to bring coolers into the
practices or not. I guess you'd have to read up
on that.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, it's pretty sweet.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
That would be pretty cool though, if you are able
to go crack a beer or two with your son,
you know, eleven, twelve years old, thirteen years old, fourteen
years old, four years old? B yeah four fat. You
got to you gotta get them going right, you know
what I mean. You gotta make sure they understand what
it means to be a Western pa kid.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You kidding how to ride a bike yet no knows
how to open up in a rolling rock though out
of an ice cold cooler. Tell you that there you go.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Damn right, it is bottle with his teeth.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
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Oh, good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar.
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If you remember, we did.
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Celebrate Dracula's birthday just a few weeks ago, and he
was only about one hundred and twenty six years old.
If you take in that it's Bram Stoker's novel Dracula
was published in eighteen ninety seven.
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But wasn't it wasn't Dracula like around in the seventeen
hundreds or.
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Something like that.
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Yeah, you're right on that, but his birthday from bramp.
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Stool, celebrate Dracula yesterday, damn Dawn.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Uh, guys, in case you missed this bit.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Kilo yesterday, guys, in case he missed this law enforcements
in Miami Dade County are looking to arrest former NFL
wide receiver Antonio Brown on the charge of attempted murder,
according to a warrant reviewed by The Washington Post. The
charges based on that shooting Brown was allegedly involved in
during the celebrity boxing event in Miami last month, and
we talked to.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
He shoot it up in the air well.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
According to different eyewitnesses, he approached the individuals who were
trying to jump him for his jewelry, approach them with
a gun and two casings were found. Two shots were fired,
and they eyewitnesses say it was Brown who shot that firearm.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah he did. I mean, the video is out there.
The video shows it. I mean, the guys jump them
or whatever. He goes and grabs a fire on. He
goes like you could see him walking towards him. Oh yeah,
start you start hearing it just.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Got it in his hand.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
The evidence is there.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
The evidence is there. But I heard people said he
was shooting in the air.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
By the way he his life. At least what we
see is pure and total chaos at all times.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
It certainly has the chance of ending very very sadly.
I mean it has the makings of sad ending written
all over it.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I hope he gets a hold of it. You know,
whatever it is he's got going on, or if it's
an act or whatever, I don't know. I hope whatever
it is he needs to do, he does it before
it gets to that point.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I mean, I will say this, and you know what
I'll say. You know what I mean when I say this,
he done well for himself. Yeah, I guess. I mean
he has done well for it.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
They they like him. I'll tell you that he's not
an unlike dude in that category. I know exactly what
you're talking about. But that's I mean, that's still that
doesn't you know? That clearly doesn't lead to happiness. He's
not happy. Something ain't right. You know what do you
(39:02):
mean just saying right there.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Man hashtag CTESPN. Yeah, I mean, by the ways he's
still handing out Cracker the Year awards.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I like, that's what you did. You didn't see me, Pete.
I alluded to something like that, oh in the Friday song.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Yeah, he has a daily awards still on his h
on his Twitter page.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
I'm not sure exactly if he's on his daily award.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Now, yeah, I'm not sure if he has right, I'm
not sure if he's the one who's posting those, but.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Hey, good for him. Stay safe out there.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
What else, guys, in case you missed this, the Patriots
will be unveiling their first ever statue outside of Jillette Stadium. That,
of course, will be on August eighth, before the preseason
game against the Commanders, and of course will be none
other than a twelve foot bronze statue of mister Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
All right, all right, but are they gonna actually do
a decent job or is this gonna look similar to
some of these other statues that have been like whatever
you do, don't do The Dwayne Wade statue in Miami
looks awful. Dwayne Wade statue looks awful. But what are
they putting a statue you up in State College at
(40:08):
Beaver Stadium. There far one day opening.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I work hard man for for Penn State, so maybe
one day, one day maybe?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
What else?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
There's no other statues of anybody else though, I mean,
like you know, from our football team, there was.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
At one point I heard about that. Yeah, not anymore though.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, Well that's another conversation.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
Uh, guys, In case you missed this, of course, Roman Anthony,
the rookie outfielder for Boston Red Sox, has made his debut,
but so has his sister, Leah Anthony, who's gone from
three thy to eighteen thousand followers on Instagram for obvious reasons.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
If you want to look that up. What's her name?
Leah Anthony l I A.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
People are too horned up?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Man? Are they too oh too much?
Speaker 6 (40:55):
I think you just got another couple of followers.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
I get it, but damn h
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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To Pete Prisco and and Brady Quinn. Pete today the
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Damn glad we have others today?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So we are we are often running here on this
Friday morning.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Are we running or are we just off?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Listen, we're well, We're not off. We're running. We're running
a gun in here. And you know it's good that
you can depend on the usual suspects for storylines around
the National Football League at this time of year, I
would say that and the usual suspects would be the
Cincinnati Bengals who just cannot help themselves. Cannot help themselves.
(02:41):
This is uh par for the course when it comes
to the Cincinnati Bengals. We have chronicled the situation with
Shamar Stewart. He's unhappy with a new method the Bengals
are taking when it comes to being able to avoid
certain guarantees and rookie contracts. He wants it to go
back to the way that they've always done it. They're
(03:02):
trying to do something new, and so Shamar Stewart spoke
out about it earlier this week and then you know,
just decided yesterday I'm out of here, and he decided
to leave Mini camp in the midst of this contract
dispute with the Cincinnati Bengals, Zach Taylor was asked about
it and just kind of well, you know, didn't seem
(03:22):
all that please. You know, he would have preferred that
it was maybe kept a little more in house whatnot.
But also, Bengals Center and most importantly NFLPA Vice President
Ted Carris defended not only Shamar Stuart, but also Trey
Hendrickson amidst his demand for a new contract with Cincy.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It's not the best case scenario of how the spring
could have gone for our first round pick.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But you know, there is a.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Pretty serious business aspect to our profession, and you know,
he's taking counsel from his you know camp, and uh,
you know, I I don't The main thing I want
to say is I don't think to either of our
defensive ends that there's not any harboring resentment in this
locker room to them, I know, and I really hope
that both camps can figure this out because we have
(04:15):
a you know, we have a really good team. We've
had a super productive spring, and you know, you just
don't want this to carry over into into summer. I
think from a PA perspective, always, we don't want you know,
language and contracts that are gonna be negative to players.
As far as guaranteed money, we're always trying to you know,
max the amount of guarantees that guys get. So you know,
(04:37):
it's a business negotiation, and you know, I just i'm
you know, I feel I feel for Shamar that you know,
he has to kind of this is his first taste
of the league with you know, kind of a lot
of hate. Hate on the internet, not hate, but since
the Twitter is a mess around, so I, you know,
I hope that he can come and be super productive
and fall and and kind of get everyone back in
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his side.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Your Cincinnati Bengals just delivering the goods every offseason. Joe
Burrow called it the distraction. They've made it a point
and a priority this offseason to take care of the offense.
You've got two players on defense, one of which was
the SAX leader a year ago. That's been dragging on
for quite some time and just can't seem to get
(05:22):
those defensive deals done for whatever reason. You know, Jermaine
Pratt was a longtime Bangal. He's gone. He was looking
to get traded because they wouldn't work on a new
deal with him. He just signed with the Raiders. It
just feels like they've made it very clear what they're
prioritizing this offseason going into next.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I thought Teed made a great point on the Twitter, Twitter, Twitter,
SINCI fans and social media and how that plays apart
in all of this. Whenever a rookie, I'll just start
with rookie, I'll stay with rookie instead of Hendrickson right
this moment. But as far as with a rookie who
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has never played for your team yet has not been
able to establish themselves yet in the community, the new
community that they're in, I wonder how much the organization
takes that into consideration when all of these things are
taking place, because generally speaking, the fans aren't going to
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be forgiving to the player. It's the weirdest phenomenon. It's
not like the fans are like, what is since he
doing da da da, this, that and the other, and no,
you're gonna have a large sector of the fan base
harassing and talking crazy to the player as if the
(06:48):
player doesn't know what he's doing. Is that the player
is greedy or the player is something other and it
has a damaging effect. I know. I was what they
said air quotes a holdout And it's interesting because what
does Schamar Stewart in terms of a contract have right now?
(07:12):
You know what he has right now? J nothing. So
if you have nothing, you can't be a holdout. Like
think about it. The idea that guys start to get
labeled holdouts. The term is if it's being used correctly.
A holdout is someone who is working for you and
(07:35):
they don't show up to work. That's holding out. But
if I don't have a contract with you, I don't
have a job. So technically you haven't even officially hired
me yet. This is not a holdout. This is first
things first. Like, players get accused of a lot of
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things sometimes, and one of the things that they can
be accused of is not handling their business properly. It
comes up a lot, you know, the immaturity or the
lack of attention to the detail of this, and it's like, okay,
But when you do have athletes that are paying attention
(08:18):
to the details and they are doing things the right
way and they are putting business first, they're they're putting
a a bad way into a bad bag because of
that decision that they're making. Schamar Stoer and his team
are making a valid, a valid point to why would
you take guarantees out? Look, why would you avoid my
(08:41):
guarantees other than me doing something that to me is
taking away from the franchise and the shield. Why else
would you? Why else would you cancel out any guarantees
that you put in my contract.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Especially if he's just asking for the same thing you've
always done this year.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It makes no sense. It makes no sense. It makes
no sense. And now you're you're creating you're creating drama,
You're creating friction. Whether there's hard feelings held after or not.
He's going to be Schamar the rookie. He's going to
be judged by some of these these fans, and some
(09:25):
of them may never even forgive them. Ah, he's greedy,
d that, this, that, and the other. We don't need
those types of players. Like what do you mean, what
do you mean you don't need these types of players?
What type of player is he? The type of player
that wants a fear contract, Like he's going to get
his opportunity to play, but now he's missing reps, he's
(09:47):
he's missing practices. And these coaches, whether they'll admit it
or not, they're partial towards the guys that are there.
And so now you're you've created a disconnec possibly between
player and coaches. You've possibly created a disconnect between player
and fans, and you've possibly created friction and a disconnect
(10:12):
between organization and fans. It's a lose on all on
all fronts and for what, what is the reasoning behind
making this a sticking point to getting the deal done.
It's it's unbelievable to me. I don't understand it. And
unless the Cincinnati Bengals front office comes out with clarity
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on what this represents, I think it's a problem. And
it's not the type of problem you need when your
team that has the type of tack that it has
and the possibilities that exist, and you your top draft
pick is not around because of a technicality. It's not
a number. It's not really a number. It's it's a
(10:59):
tech don't void out my guarantees. If it's that simple,
and that plane, that man's contract should have been done
and signed and he should have been in and not
being a storyline that surrounds your team or the National
Football League just seems unwarranted, unnecessary and unneeded.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And also just from a big picture standpoint of your
the Bengals, and this doesn't even take getting into the
details of the contract and all. You have a window here,
and you have an opportunity with a franchise quarter a
legitimate franchise quarterback that you drafted in his prime, that
you've heard glowing reviews from anybody who's watched him. You've
(11:45):
got whether it's Dan Troy Aikman says, he's one of
my favorite quarterbacks of all time. You got your guy
because you sucked so bad that he was sitting there
and you were in the perfect spot to draft him,
and you got the deal done. He's got his eensine.
You have this window and this opportunity to do something special.
You went to a super Bowl and he wasn't even
(12:07):
in his prime yet. He like, you've got a guy
who actually has beaten Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game
which is rarefied air, and has had success against the
dynasty of his era, and they're like, you know, nickel
and diming a guy who led the league in sacks,
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trying to do something different for a rookie than they've
done every other It just feels like this organization is
potentially going to get in the way of this opportunity
to maybe.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You're going to get away your own self.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Blows my mind.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
There's probably sure your biggest opponent asked me.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Right here, me do the Bengals have in their bye week?
They got the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
They don't get a Bengals here.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I just like, I don't There's there's probably teams around
the NFL that are looking at the Bengals going, what
are you doing? We would love to have your problems
like oh, he kissing, you can't seem to figure out
how you can pay. I don't get it. It seems
so obvious to me. And for some reason, the Bengals
are like, Ana, na, Na, We'll just you know, we're
(13:18):
still trying to figure this whole thing out. No, this
should be obvious. Whatever it takes, get the deal done.
And when Shamar Stewart says and talks about the players
in the locker room that have been supportive of him,
and he said that, you know, a couple of days ago,
like that tells me there's probably veterans that are like
talking to him, like we discussed when we broke down
(13:40):
him making those comments that are like, man, you do
what you need to do. This is not on you,
This is on them, Like this is on them. It's
just it's such a bad look for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Man, I just don't feel like this is a heel
you need to put your toes down on, put your
flag in and die on. Just not the one and
for all of this. Now you're saying you're setting a
new precedence for how you handle rookies, which now you
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already have a slotted a slotted number in the NFL draft.
It's not like you need to be really negotiating. It's
kind of already slotted. The numbers are the numbers. So
get the contract done and get moving like it just
doesn't make very much sense at all. It's your first
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round draft pick. Get the contract done. That used to
be a thing. It used to be a thing back
when the NFLPA and the NFL didn't have the deal
the way it's done now. It used to be a thing.
You know, he's asking for too much money or this
language here isn't good enough for the situation. Got to
(15:00):
figure out what that looks like. Like those were different
times because you were negotiating dollars. And while I'll say, okay,
this does include dollars, because obviously, if you can avoid guarantees,
have they released and this is a very important piece
of the puzzle. Have they released what guarantees they're fighting
(15:24):
to be able to cancel in the contract? Has the
details of that come out yet?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
So, from my understanding, based on it, and if you
give me a sec I can pull up the wording
because I think it was the Cincinnati Inquirer who wrote
about what exactly the hold up is. And from my understanding,
according to the Cincinnati Enquirer, let's see me. Let me
find this exactly. Okay, give me one sack here. But
(15:52):
it's something along the lines of the injury like injury
guarantees that they're trying to be able to void Wade
that they haven't done before, something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But it's so basically any any roster or any bonuses
that he would have, any guarantees he would have if
he gets injured, they want those void, those to be
voided out. They don't want they don't want to have
the Deshaun Watson situation. They don't want to have a
guy come in have guarantees but gets injured and isn't playing.
(16:28):
Is that like what that sounds like?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Here's the from this is from Adam Schefter on the
clause that is in the contract isn't normal and that's
why Shamar Stewart is objecting the way he is. The Bengals. Uh,
let me find more details on it, but it's just
it's it's an abnormal clause that teams do not normally do,
and the Bengals are now trying to pull off and
(16:52):
do this year that that's I guess that that's I.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Will say from the other side of it. From the
other side of it, if they're trying to protect their
interests by having something that you know, protects their their
you know, what they have going on, they need to
have the conversation, like they need to explain it so
that the general public has an understanding of why this
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something like this that is considered to be new and
being introduced to the scenario is what they're trying to do. Somebody,
a representative, if you're keeping quiet, seems shady because the
idea of I've already said for as long as I
if you know me, I think publishing and giving public
(17:42):
knowledge of professional athletes contracts and how much they make
is absurd and it's ridiculous. I really do. And I
also think that it's absurd that that has to be
an element that a rookie has to navigate, because it's not.
It's not on them.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So here's a here's a little more detail for you
from ESPN. According to a source with knowledge of the negotiations.
The sticking point is language in the contract that could
avoid guaranteed money in future years. For example, if Stewart
were suspended even for an off field reason such as
leading with the crown of the helmet or other similar
penalties that could eliminate future guarantees.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean, I'll say, the game is evolving, and if
you're going to go out there and you're doing things
that are egregious towards your your campaign as a player,
and it's egregious towards you know, the campaign of the team.
If you're out there head hunting and playing in a
(18:44):
way where you're going to get fined or get suspended
or anything like that, disqualified from from games. I get that.
I get that. That's an extreme. That's an extreme, I mean,
but yeah, I mean, let's be real here. Defenders play defense.
So now you basically you want your defender being paranoid
(19:06):
about if there's a judgment call lift. We've seen plenty
of judgment calls, a questionable you know, ways guys have
been hit and I haven't always agreed with one way
or the other, you know, So so now you're basically
saying you're trying to introduce language that will govern his
(19:27):
contract and his money based off of something that could
be left to interpretation that happens on the field for
a defender.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And you've never and the most part that I keep
looking at is you've never done that before. This is
the first time you've done something to this extent and
you're picking now to do it. That's his gripe, like,
why now can we just do the one you did
last year or the year before. But for whatever I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Again, evolution happens, Things change, you know, I understand that,
I understand things changing and business being handled. But the
one thing that they don't have on their side is
the fact that it's being done outside of the public eye.
It has become public. And so now that it is
(20:18):
a public conversation that's taking place and the details of
it are coming to the forefront, is this a big
enough sticking point for you not to have your rookie
signed and ready to go? And I'll just say this,
at the bare minimum, the sad thing about all of
(20:39):
this is this is business. And that's that's a reality.
Business is business, and now college players are going to
have to adapt and adjust and learn what business is
all about. And so are the colleges. They're going to
have to adapt and adjust. But in the league, sometimes
the necessary and that's not even sometimes, it's every time.
(21:00):
The necessary evil that's connected to what takes place is
you got to negotiate a contract, and for better or
for worse, if there is evolution of what a player
wants or what the organization wants, those are things that
have to play out between the negotiators, the lawyers, the agents,
(21:23):
and the people that represent the team. So while we're
sitting here and it is a discussable topic, it still
is one of those topics Jonas where it is a
necessary evil. They're not at training camp yet, and even
if they were at training camp, you get one time
(21:43):
to do your contract the right way. The only contract
that matters is the contract you have right in front
of you at this moment in time. You get one time,
no guarantees that you get another one. So you got
to take your time to do it properly and do
it the right way so that you're happy with it
and you're comfortable with it because you're going to have
(22:04):
it for a few years and that could be your
first and only contract that you ever do. So you
better get it right. So it's a necessary evil if
I'm looking at it from the less chaotic, the less
turbulent and confrontational way, it's just a part of it.
It's just said that it has to gain the coverage
and gain the I guess the way that the way
(22:27):
it's being handled, the way the way people feel about it,
you hate that that has to happen because this is
a necessary evil to negotiate getting to the end of
a contract.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Speaking of necessary evils, I didn't want to point out
here because I think it's important, especially on today. It's
a football Friday. It is a football party Friday. Come on, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
He shot gun Friday. Yay. An Tonio Brown shot a gun.
It's Friday, Yay. Now the cops is looking for They
looking for, They looking for, They looking for on Friday,
on Friday, on Friday, on Friday, get your dance on,
get your dance on, get your dance on, get your
dance of.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Dan dance, dam dance, dance, dance, dance.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Are you the aby of the week? I said, are
you the ad aby of the week? You know what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
We gotta switch it up.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
What I'm talking about Let's switch it up.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
We gotta switch it up.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Let's do it for Eddie. Come on Friday night at
the Football Friday. All right, yeah, Football Friday.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Rockle kuckle, do it score con It is a Football
Friday here on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
We are gonna have the usuals coming up later on.
We've got another edition of in case you missed it.
We've also got our topic round up, our two of
the program, and we'll close up shop with leaves leftovers.
All of it is yours here on this three hour extravaganza.
(24:00):
Up next, though, somebody is returning to the good old
days in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 1 (24:20):
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over fifteen minutes from now, a Borderline Hall of Famer
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Speaker 3 (25:24):
Could you imagine having an announcer announce you getting ready
to go to work and walking out the door to
go get it done like you just won, and then
HL playoff game. That'd be pretty good every day, Like
every time you're getting ready, like you're getting ready for work,
you're looking in the mirror and he does it, and
then you go walking out the door to go get
(25:45):
in your car and he sends you out the door
that way. That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I feel great, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I Mean that's a lot of energy, man, Yeah, that
really is. I feel like it would take the stimuli
or the stimulus level up to like the highighest, the
highest decibel point.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You know, by the way, should we also unveil you?
And I were some people were throwing out some pretty
snarky commentary on what the name of the show should be.
I was, you know, offended. They threw out one one
pro in a vamp like a vampire, which I thought
was insulting. But levarn I came up with with another
(26:23):
one called hold on now.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
O.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Some people have called me Dracula before I've seen the
gifts out there, or as Brady calls them, jiffs. Levarn
I came up with black and Drack, which I think,
which to me, that's a home run.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
But again, I mean it's original. I mean, black is
not really original from the the skateboarder X games. Dude,
his bodyguard, rest is his soul, you know. But but
black and draged together, Yes, that's that's original.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's got ring to it does It's like ivory. But
like for you guys, yeah, black and drag, that's what
we're working with.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
It happens once a year.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Well you know who's you know, who's back the Steelers? Okay,
who and they're they're back to practicing in the afternoons.
How about that? That's that's the key ingredient to getting
them ready for the season. If you don't believe us,
just take it away. Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, what.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Hot enough last year?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
To be quite honest with you, heat aids in the
development of physical conditioning. It makes it a more stressful environment.
And that's what we go to camp for. We go
to camp to get better and if it's a little
bit more miserable later in the day, man, that's what
we want.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I mean, why not at this point if you're Mike Tomlin,
just dust off all the all the the old hits
and just roll them out there. You know, this could
be the beginning of the end for Mike Tomlin's time
in Pittsburgh. Just roll them all out, try everything. So
now he's going back to the afternoons. You think this
is gonna work or what?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I think? It's a small piece of the puzzle if
it If it works, it works, if it doesn't work.
If things don't work out, I don't think that we
will come back and pinpoint. If they worked out at
this point in time during the day so whether it
works out or not, it's just it's a conversational pieces.
(28:31):
It's certainly it certainly would would be one of the
small Like if you were writing aid or telling a
story about why Michael Tomlin Mike Tomlin lost his job,
I just don't see you talking about what time they
(28:53):
practice during the day as one of the parts of
the story.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That was really the first big mistake you made was
he started practicing at one PM as opposed to ten am.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
City wanted the guys to be miserable, you know, like cares.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I mean, is there something to do that though? I mean,
you know, I mean, is in Latrobe at July twenty third,
how hot are we talking?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
It is? It's hot and it's humid. It feels disgusting.
It sits on you. You know, the grasshoppers are are
going crazy. They're they're jumping around and they're big, and
it's you can see the heat coming up off of
the ground. Sometimes it be so hot. So, I mean,
he's right, you do want to get your body acclimated
(29:40):
to being pushed to the limits in that type of heat.
But that's also what off season conditioning is four is
to make that as easy as you know, transition into
real time football as it does. But again, all the
reports and all the story, I still have yet to
(30:01):
see a pro or college training camp practice yet. I've
never seen one. But I will say, based off of
what I've heard from people as to how practices are
conducted now versus how they used to be, I mean,
that's not something to me that is going to be
(30:24):
an overwhelming feeling of oh my gosh, I can't believe
this is happening to us type of deal. They take
care of these guys way better than they ever have.
They'll take water breaks in between. Sometimes they take ice
cream breaks and or smoothie breaks or whatever it may be,
you know, nutritional breaks to make sure that they're okay
(30:45):
and they're well hydrated and stuff like that. So I
think the catering to the athlete at this juncture is
so high, and the understanding of health and hydration is
so well pronounced that sure, you're going to struggle running
in the heat with with your pads on. You're going
(31:07):
to struggle doing a lot of the reps, you know,
getting into that type of condition, and it is a
necessary evil, even if you have been conditioning, even if
you have been preparing. You know, some guys do get
in shape. They some guys do play themselves into shape
during during training cap So I mean it just it
(31:30):
just this generation of athlete is a little bit a
little different. I think they're a little a little more
proactive and like workout culture these days.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Speaking of Latrobe, when's the last time you had yourself
an ice cold Rolling Rock?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm heading to Pittsburgh in a few minutes. I'm literally
getting ready to go, put my clothes on and my
my travel stuff and get out there. So I'm gonna
be in Pittsburgh today.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
What an by the way, bang for your buck? One
of the great beers you can buy still cheap? Oh no,
Rolling Rock Rove.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, Rolling Rock is a dope beer.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's dope bear really underrated. Man. I don't even know
if they're still doing it in Latrob. I don't even
know if the plant is still there. But that was
the the old and I was looking up doing some
research on the Rolling Rock brand and apparently the thirty
three because they've got this mysterious thirty three on the back,
and some have speculated that the thirty three is because
(32:36):
it was the year prohibition was repealed. And it's also
the number of words in the legend printed above the
number on the cans. So like, there's this this message
that you get when you go to buy a Rolling
Rock on the back, it says, from the glass line
tanks of old Latrobe, we tender this premium beer for
(32:58):
your enjoyment, as a tribute to your good taste. How
about that? So he who knows now the Steelers, I'm
not mad at Rolling Rock now, I'm not either, man.
I'm proud of them. Yeah, good for them, man. So
so now listen, if you're if you're one of those
Steelers players, and like, man, it's hot as balls out here.
Maybe just you know, take a little stroll up the road,
(33:19):
get yourself a nice, ice cold rolling Rock out of
a bottle, rip one of those bad boys, and you're
ready for day two.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
And then all of that are at training camps when
they allow the players to come, Like, are the I'm
certain they're able to tailgate in the parking lot while
they're waiting for practices and stuff like that, right, yeah
for them, so that they could, I wonder, because it's
like almost like a picnic picnic style of how you
(33:49):
watch if it's still the same going to to Steelers'
training camps. It's like they have ropes around the field.
You stand behind the ropes, but it's like you could
go sit on a hill, you could go sit anywhere,
like almost like picnic style, and just watch the practices. Now,
I don't know if it's still like that, but I
would assume it is. So. I wonder if you're able to,
(34:12):
you know, pack a cooler up, if they'd like dictate
to you, if you're able to bring coolers into the
practices or not. I guess you'd have to read up
on that.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, it's pretty sweet.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
That would be pretty cool though, if you are able
to go crack a beer or two with your son,
you know, eleven, twelve years old, thirteen years old, fourteen
years old, four years old? B yeah four fat. You
got to you gotta get them going right, you know
what I mean. You gotta make sure they understand what
it means to be a Western pa kid.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You kidding how to ride a bike yet no knows
how to open up in a rolling rock though out
of an ice cold cooler. Tell you that there you go.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Damn right, it is bottle with his teeth.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knocks with you
all right, coming up next here Borderline Hall of Famer,
and he's up to the same old stuff again. We'll
explain right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
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Speaker 1 (35:18):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here, Old Black and
Drack here on a Football Friday. I am old technically,
if I'm dragca technically, I am too.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
You're way old damp.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
By the way, coming off top of next hour, It's
very important to point out the obvious when it comes
to a couple of storylines and one team in the
NFL that'll be yours here on FSR. By the way,
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Speaker 2 (36:13):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Good thing.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
The guys are here to bring you in case you missed.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It, and for that we turn it over to our
executive producer, Lea Lapp.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Oh, good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
If you remember, we did.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Celebrate Dracula's birthday just a few weeks ago, and he
was only about one hundred and twenty six years old.
If you take in that it's Bram Stoker's novel Dracula
was published in eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
But wasn't it wasn't Dracula like around in the seventeen
hundreds or.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Something like that.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Yeah, you're right on that, but his birthday from bramp.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Stool, celebrate Dracula yesterday, damn Dawn.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Uh, guys, in case you missed this bit.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Kilo yesterday, guys, in case he missed this law enforcements
in Miami Dade County are looking to arrest former NFL
wide receiver Antonio Brown on the charge of attempted murder,
according to a warrant reviewed by The Washington Post. The
charges based on that shooting Brown was allegedly involved in
during the celebrity boxing event in Miami last month, and
we talked to.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
He shoot it up in the air well.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
According to different eyewitnesses, he approached the individuals who were
trying to jump him for his jewelry, approach them with
a gun and two casings were found. Two shots were fired,
and they eyewitnesses say it was Brown who shot that firearm.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah he did. I mean, the video is out there.
The video shows it. I mean, the guys jump them
or whatever. He goes and grabs a fire on. He
goes like you could see him walking towards him. Oh yeah,
start you start hearing it just.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Got it in his hand.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
The evidence is there.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
The evidence is there. But I heard people said he
was shooting in the air.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
By the way he his life. At least what we
see is pure and total chaos at all times.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
It certainly has the chance of ending very very sadly.
I mean it has the makings of sad ending written
all over it.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I hope he gets a hold of it. You know,
whatever it is he's got going on, or if it's
an act or whatever, I don't know. I hope whatever
it is he needs to do, he does it before
it gets to that point.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I mean, I will say this, and you know what
I'll say. You know what I mean when I say this,
he done well for himself. Yeah, I guess. I mean
he has done well for it.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
They they like him. I'll tell you that he's not
an unlike dude in that category. I know exactly what
you're talking about. But that's I mean, that's still that
doesn't you know? That clearly doesn't lead to happiness. He's
not happy. Something ain't right. You know what do you
(39:02):
mean just saying right there.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Man hashtag CTESPN. Yeah, I mean, by the ways he's
still handing out Cracker the Year awards.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I like, that's what you did. You didn't see me, Pete.
I alluded to something like that, oh in the Friday song.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Yeah, he has a daily awards still on his h
on his Twitter page.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
I'm not sure exactly if he's on his daily award.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Now, yeah, I'm not sure if he has right, I'm
not sure if he's the one who's posting those, but.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Hey, good for him. Stay safe out there.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
What else, guys, in case you missed this, the Patriots
will be unveiling their first ever statue outside of Jillette Stadium. That,
of course, will be on August eighth, before the preseason
game against the Commanders, and of course will be none
other than a twelve foot bronze statue of mister Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
All right, all right, but are they gonna actually do
a decent job or is this gonna look similar to
some of these other statues that have been like whatever
you do, don't do The Dwayne Wade statue in Miami
looks awful. Dwayne Wade statue looks awful. But what are
they putting a statue you up in State College at
(40:08):
Beaver Stadium. There far one day opening.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I work hard man for for Penn State, so maybe
one day, one day maybe?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
What else?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
There's no other statues of anybody else though, I mean,
like you know, from our football team, there was.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
At one point I heard about that. Yeah, not anymore though.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, Well that's another conversation.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
Uh, guys, In case you missed this, of course, Roman Anthony,
the rookie outfielder for Boston Red Sox, has made his debut,
but so has his sister, Leah Anthony, who's gone from
three thy to eighteen thousand followers on Instagram for obvious reasons.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
If you want to look that up. What's her name?
Leah Anthony l I A.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
People are too horned up?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Man? Are they too oh too much?
Speaker 6 (40:55):
I think you just got another couple of followers.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
I get it, but damn h
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