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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
Give this.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
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Wednesday morning. How we feel it? Sticks? What up stix?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Good morning sir? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
How we feel it?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Almo's overslept?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I was comfortable? Yeah, well it was comfortable. That bit
was cozy last night.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Man, I means you got that rem sleep. I sunk
up in there.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Man. You know we ain't supposed to do that. Number one,
don't don't sleep. We just don't. It just doesn't work
with our hours.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh yeah, with this time slot.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I can't. It doesn't work with our hours. And
people have the nerve to be a holes to us
at times. Man, do you understand the things we go
through to be able to deliver to you the content
that you're receiving?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, but listen, you know today, Yeah, that's all right.
I mean we're gonna we're going to power through this.
I mean, look well, I'm just saying I'll give you credit.
I mean, you're not gonna, you know, walk away, decide
to call it a.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Career and then decended then just pop back up.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, i'd like to. I like to go ahead and
uh and make this a thing again. Uh. So I
thought this was a fake story. I thought you had
sent me, you had sent me the link to this story,
and I thought that it was I was going to
click on something that was going to take me down
a road and an album.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Okay, okay, so okay, so that's.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yes, because you know, like next thing, you know, I
clicked something that you send me.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And all of a sudden, loan and he's down to.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We're in the serengetti and there's a bowl elephant walking
around like he's like he's got a building tweet and
it's just you know, the whole. So I got to
be very careful, especially if I'm at home looking at
these links. So I click the link and I go, wait, what,
Darren Waller, it's back. Hold on, second, hold on, we
(03:37):
just played this clip less than two weeks ago here
on this show because Darren Waller was on the side
you Don't See podcast, and he explained the moment he
realized that he no longer wanted to play in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
We were running like this counter lead running play and
I'm kind of like leading through the hole like I'm
a fullback and the play is working.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But I said, down on the sideline after like a drive.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Where he ran like three times, I'm like, what am
I doing with my I'm not here playing fullback. I
don't want to do this anymore. And I'm just like
looking at the moon. It's like early first quarter, second quarter.
Nobody else would really even know that I'm thinking this,
but almost all I like, Yep, I'm going to finish
this year with the best of my ability, but I'm
definitely done playing after this year.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Oops. Next thing, you know, he decides not I'd like
to play again, so much so that the Miami Dolphins,
following the trade of John news Smith, their Pro Bowl
tight end sent to the Pittsburgh Steelers as part of
the Mika Fitzpatrick Jalen Ramsey trade. The day before, the
Miami Dolphins have acquired Darren Waller from the New York Giants,
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who still had his rights following his retirement. And I mean,
I guess. He went on to tell ESPN's Jordan ran On,
he told people close to him that he missed football
and was returning for the love of the game. Maya
would be He's like, let.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Your assumption should be He's like, lead to lap. I
can't believe anything he says or falls out. It doesn't
matter what he says.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You can't believe it. Lead lion, Lion Waller and lee.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Lead to lie that. I So I would read this
as I was done playing football, just football with the Giants.
That would be my interpretation of this, all right, And
and that would be or I was done playing football
until the opportunity to go to South Beach came up,
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and maybe that was more of the appeal.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean, any one of those things could be a
possibility here. And again, here's the thing, right, I've been
saying this, and I'll hold true to this, all right.
Darren Waller's thirty two years old. But I know stretch
of the imagination is that old or over the hill,
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But it ain't young. It's not young for his position,
It's not young for being in the league, like he's
a veteran at thirty two years old. I would say
here because I have said this about Aaron Aaron Rodgers.
(06:26):
I've said this at length because we have so much
time to talk about it. When somebody gives you an
interview that says that they have one foot in retirement
and maybe have a toe nail or two in the
water of playing, that's just a dangerous It's a dangerous move.
(06:46):
It's a dangerous move. And whether Darren Waller said he
was done because well, this was it and I was
looking around into space and I want to do my music,
whatever it may be. Whatever it is is that gave
him the reason to basically call it, call it a day,
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you know, wrap it up. It's because his mind is there.
And I don't know if his mind is truly there,
but I don't know that it isn't because of the
things that he said to me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
If you brought him in there, you've brought him in.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
There to see where he's at with things, See how
he tests physically, make sure you're testing him out mentally,
to see if he really really wants to learn the playbook,
what he's willing to take his body to, you know,
the links he's willing to take his body to before
I make any type of real decision on him. If
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they traded for him, that means they took the contract.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That he had. How does that work? Because he did eat? Like,
how does that work?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, the Giants had his right, so whatever was the
remaining contract they would just assume as part of the trade.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So they were going to pay They were going to
pay Darren Waller while he was retired.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The Giants were so Waller signed if I have the
numbers correct here, he got a three well that was
with the Raiders, a three year, fifty one million dollar deal.
While he was with the Raiders, he signed his deal
with the Giants, or that was part of the deal
he got working with the Giants, and then the Dolphins
have assumed whatever was remaining on his contract that the
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Giants were paying him.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Okay, I'd be curious as to what that number is,
because the Giants were willing to unload it, which means
that they were still having to pay Darren Waller. If
they were going to maintain his rights, that means that
they were going to still have to be paying him.
So if that's the case, and you traded that. I'm
curious as to how much that is because if Darren Waller,
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Darren Waller comes back, he's not receiving more money unless
they were to do an extent with him, or restructure
the contract or redo the contract altogether. So he's coming
back for the same money, same amount of money, which
might be a nice amount of money, because I mean,
he did get a great deal, and well was Las Vegas.
(09:16):
They were in Las Vegas by then from the Raiders.
Then it has to be he didn't want to be
in New York playing for the New York Giants. It
has to be that there's the possibility that that could
be what it is. He stepped away with the idea
of feeling as though he could escape New York without
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playing there anymore. And that would be interesting. That would
be interesting because while he may be lying or was lying,
maybe he was telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Maybe playing for a team.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
That that wasn't very good, and then the team he
played for before wasn't very good.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Maybe he was done.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So the new according to Adam Scheft of the new
deal is worth up to five million dollars a one
year deal.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, See that's not that's not. That's not that much money.
It's a it's a it's a nice amount for for
somebody who said they don't want to play anymore, But
that's not that's not a large number for them to consume.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, it's the Giants basically gave the blessing to trade
him by acquiring the picks that they got uh from
the Miami Dolphins, because they thought, listen, if he doesn't
want to play here, that's fine, we'll pick up something
for him and their late round picks in twenty twenty six.
You know, doesn't even you know, they probably won't even
factor in. It's just.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I don't think that's a big enough number to be concerned.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, to your point though, on the retirement thing, Dana
White has always said this the president of the UFC,
where he says, look, I tell fighters all the time,
if you're already thinking about retirement, you should probably just
head down that road. Like, if it's already in your
mind and.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You're already at your hit knocked off and.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You're already thinking about it, you should probably just you know,
go in that. And then I look at it and
I go, Man, if I'm a Dolphins fan, I don't know, dude,
like this, like that's the plan, that's what we're doing.
Like there's been there was speculation Kyle Pitts could have
been could have been had that maybe they would go
in the direction of Kyle Pitts because it just hasn't
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worked out with Atlanta. But Kyle Pitch you look at
and you go prime of his career, he gets to Miami,
and who knows, maybe Mike McDaniel and company can do
something with Kyle Pitts that they couldn't unlock in Atlanta
because it just hasn't worked out there. And instead the
Miami response to that is no, we'll just go trade
for a guy who retired, Like what do we.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It just okay?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And and when you put it that way, Jonas, it
makes it very easy to come to like easy conclusions.
And to me, until you know they say, you know,
in business, you look like you're you're a lunatic or
you you look like you're crazy, until what you do,
you know, that's what we have here, It's an easy
(12:05):
conclusion to come to that these are not the most
the best decisions that are being made. And and if
you're bringing him in not only to see if he
can play. But if you're bringing him in to be
a starter and you don't really know where this dude's
mind is at, where his head is at, I mean,
i'd say this it is. It's a critical position, but
(12:28):
it's not a I must have position. I mean, you
could get him in there and you could use him
as you know, whatever it is that it's going to
work for in spot duty. I mean, maybe they're not
looking at it like they're fitting to ride to train with,
pause with with Darren Waller, like it's it's it might
(12:48):
not It clearly isn't stated by the way his contract
sounds how much they're paying him, that that they're really
putting too much of an investment into him as a player.
So I don't know that it's that big of a deal,
but it still seemed like a you know, and look,
you mentioned Dana white Bones Jones was staying retiring. He stayed.
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He stayed telling people, I'm retired, I'm retired. I'm retired.
And I think in the fight game it's a little
bit more acceptable because guys say they're doing it all the.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Time and they come back a leverage play for more money, and.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Sure, sure it is then they come back next month
and they fight, you know, like that's that's kind of
how it goes in like the fight game. But here
in football and the guy is at age thirty two.
It's not that's not a that's not an age you
play around with it. It's really not like that. To me,
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that is an age where you're you're you're gonna play
and if you're like say, if you're one of those
Hall of Fame types like Charles Hayley like he did
it and stuff like that, like guys come out of
retirement to come play for a little bit of time
or duration of time. I get that, But he came
(14:10):
out of retirement and he's planning on going through a
full season. I just don't, you know, I don't trust it.
I don't trust it. And listen, I've met Darren Waller.
I think he's a cool dude. I think he's a
super super cool dude. And I hate when I have
to say things that I really, you know, feel when
it's somebody that you know, I've met and I've gotten
(14:31):
an opportunity to get a chance to know when it's
something that's not crazy positive. But I just don't think
it's crazy positive to bring on a guy and pay
them any amount of money when they've already told you
I don't want to play this game anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Like that quote was as.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Clear and concise as it could get in saying why
I didn't want to play. Now you had a change
of heart. You're allowed to have a change of heart.
People are allowed to have change of heart. You have
changes of heart all the time. But just keep in
mind that change of heart could go back into oh,
now I remember why I retired again. You know, now,
granted South Beach, you're not going to deal with any
(15:10):
weather that's going to make you say that other than
it's too hot, you're not going to and you know
he's you know, he's not in I don't believe he's
in any entanglements at the moment.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So you know that's that could be.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
There could be a lot of incentive for him to
go to Miami and play really well. Not to say that,
you know, girls are any incentive, but weather certainly is.
Weather certainly is a crazy incentive to want to come
back and play.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Here's the part that doesn't add up to me. If
I'm the Dolphins, So the John new Smith speculation about
getting traded We've been talking about for a couple of
months on the show. That's been a talking point of
discussion for a couple of months on the show. So
clearly because John hu Smith had signed a two year,
(16:02):
eight point four million dollar deal with Miami, he performed,
had the best season of his career last year, and
they were looking at trying to do a different deal.
John Hu Smith wanted to stay in Miami. He was
on record as saying, I prefer to stay in Miami.
And so you're the Dolphins. You've got all of this
information about John Hu Smith, his situation and whatnot. You
(16:24):
know that this is probably going to result in a transaction,
meaning he's going to get traded elsewhere. All this time
to figure out a solution, and the solution you come
up with is let's trade for a guy who's thirty
two and retired. I'm sorry, man, I just I don't
get it. I don't get it. I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And didn't play.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yes, let's keep that in mind. He did not play
this past season.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It's like God, he did not playes Zaligi retired and
he's been off since February because he just won a
Super Bowl gone did not play. He did not play,
was doing music And no hate, I'm not hating on him,
not no shade being thrown at all. But it's just
a little bit of a bizarre answer to a question
(17:12):
that you were asked months ago about your tight end position.
And this is where we are. Okay, I don't you know,
but this is why I look at Miami this year
and I go, I hope it works. I love Tua,
love Mike McDaniel, I hope he stays healthy. I just
there's just some puzzling things that are happening there that
(17:34):
don't seem to add up.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It just looks like that's happening with a few teams.
But hey, like the perception of it is. It's just
that's there's some shakiness with some of these teams.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But on the bright side, Tyreek Hill did beat Noah
Lyle's brother, his brother in a hundred meters dash. Okay
he did still, so there's it's not all doom and
gloom for the Miami Dolphins. There some some positive news.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And they got Meka Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah you know that, and he's going to make their
team a better team and he's familiar with them. Obviously
they're familiar with him, and this second time, this second
go around, you know, maybe a really good good stint
for him.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And also, if you've got to make a Fitzpatrick jersey
from his first time around.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Nake, you can just recycle it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Dust that bad boy.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Possibly, possibly does he get the same number?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't know, I would, I mean I would hope,
So Lee, can you double check whether or not MEKEA
Fitzpatrick gets the same number. And I'm trying to figure
out what number that was because I don't think he was.
Was he thirty nine with the Dolphins? Isn't that Larry
Zonka's number? I think he was twenty nine with the Dogs? Okay, yeah,
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so yeah, so then listen, if you've got that jersey
line around, go ahead, dust it off.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Let's make it happen, even if it's even if it
is a different number for nostalgia, say dust it up.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
We like, you know, how many people had a number
seven d Brown jersey from back in the.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Day and then all the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, and then all of a sudden they drafted Jalen
Brown and it's like same last name, same number. Here
we go save yourself about one hundred and twenty bucks
for a New Jersey rock and roll. But hey, Congra,
Congratulations to Darren Waller back in the NFL. He returns
to the league and he is a member of the
Miami Dolphins. It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
(19:30):
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We've got our Midweek Awards We're gonna get to We've
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Speaker 2 (19:57):
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Speaker 1 (19:59):
Huh huh disrespect?
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Speaker 1 (20:57):
By the way, if Darren Waller goes out and has
an unbelievable year, I want all this stricken from the
record that we talked about in the previous segment.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
All right, you wont hear funny. This has absolutely nothing
to do with anything. But I saw this on social
media and it had me hurting, he said. The dude said,
I had a flashback moment the other day, called my dad.
My dad answered, I asked my dad to come get
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me from this sleepover.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I don't like this sleepover.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Dad said, hold on, man, you're forty five and that's your.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Wife and kid.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Hey man, such a good one.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Me and my homies we be We got a text
line that we be sending to each other different social media.
Little shorts. Man, that was a good one. That was
a good one. I don't like this sleepover.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
It's not a bad idea, say dad, can't you come
get me? It's not a bad idea anything.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
How if you could go back in time right now,
but not go back in time. You're here right now
in the moment, your your age, you have everything you
have going on, and you decided to go back home
and live with your parents, all things given they're there,
The home is there.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Would you go back?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
And if you went back, how do you think that
would play out?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You would go back?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Okay, Now how would that be? How? How like?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
How how would at your age living with your parents
right now, knowing that you have, you know, a wife
and a family, how would you be How would you
be at home? As Jonas whipped my parents again now
as an adult.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Oh, probably more comfortable because I got back up, Like
I got back up. What do you mean they're gonna
have my side, They're going to take my side?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well you mean take your side on what?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, I'm just saying like because that it's it's a
home game for me, because if they're if they're the
the in laws or at my house, my side in
the family's house. So it would feel like no matter what,
I've got back up, Like, hey, folks are here, you know, hey,
better keep it down.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
The folks are here. Oh see, I'm not taking anyone
with me, That's what I'm saying. Oh you're saying, go
and back alone. Like what would it be like to
be Jonas at home with your with your mom and
your dad?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Even better?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Like it was like like you left the.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Sleepers better, that's an even better option. Oh yes, I'm
going back. You kidding me.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I caused a lot of problems when I was growing up. Man,
My parents was My parents were happy they got me
up out of the house, you know what I mean.
But if I went back, I wonder it'd probably be better.
They'd probably be better.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'd be like, Mom, meet loaf.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, it's also mom. It's also the older. The older
you get, the more you look back on quotes and
things that your parents said and were like, A. That
was very wise and very true, and B that was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, especially from your dad. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Because I used to ask my dad like, I'd be like,
we'd be pulling up. I can remember this one vividly.
He used it quite a bit and and I'd be like,
you know, we'd be going to school in the morning.
My dad drove us to school in the morning, and
we'd have to stop and my mom, you know, they'd
be having a moment, and she'd get out and go
into the Uni mart. And I'd be like, Dad, what's
(24:43):
wrong with mommy. He'd be like, son, every once in
a while, she becomes a possible murder suspect.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Oh Jesus.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
And I'd be like, oh, I better leave mom alone today.
He said yes, and tomorrow, and I never understood it,
never understood it. Then eventually I put together what the
acronym of possible murder suspect was, and later on.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
In life that joint became funny to me.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He would say it, and looking back on I'd be like, dang,
I get it. Yeah, Now my son's my son's be
like what's going on? Be like, mommy's a possible murder
suspect today? Like relax, bro, Yeah, relax.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
My dad wasn't as creative. He was a little bit
more abrasive when it came to you. I've told this before.
I remember him. I got a birthday card one year
that said, uh, Jesus loves you on the front, and
I opened up the inside. He said, but it's everybody else.
He thinks you're an a hole. Dang, all right, here
we go.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Dang, that's a little hard cool.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, But like if I did that nowadays, if I
give that to my son, child Services would come and
take him like that would be. But back then, it
was just you know, ball busting.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You know, it was easy. It was easy to do,
but easy to do.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's that's pretty funny. Possible murder suspect. There you go,
I'll be stealing that. It is a two pros and
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So it's a cold world out there. It is a cold,
(27:17):
cruel world. It is especially in the NBA. Damian Lillard
ruptures his achilles in Game four of the playoffs against
the Indiana Pacers, and that'll do it. Damian Lillard waved
by the Milwaukee Bucks, who then turned around and signed
in Indiana pacer in Miles Turner to a four year
(27:39):
deal and according to Chris Haynes, who covers the NBA
does a very nice job. Jannis Antennacumpo not happy with
how they handled the Damian Lillard situation.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That's the report.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, but let's be real here. He wasn't happy to
begin with, right. I mean, there's there's been all kinds
of things circulating about the possibilities of Yannis trying to
get up out of Milwaukee and listen, if the reports
are true, and he feels as though they're not going
in the right direction. Knowing the things that I know
(28:20):
now and knowing how the league works, for the NBA,
I'm looking. I'm looking around to see where I can go.
I got I got some good years of basketball left
in me. I won a championship here, I've got multiple
MVP Awards here. No one can have anything bad to
(28:42):
say about me, And if they do, who cares. I
did what I was supposed to do, and I always
did it. And and by the way, Yannis has always
done it with grace and has done it with great character.
I mean, he has been a solid, tremendous, you know,
ambassador to the game of basketball and what that represents
(29:03):
abroad because of the type of person. He is just
a really really strong character human being. So to me,
this screams I'm like, I'm not going to try to
hostily get out of here, but I am going to
let you know that I don't want to be here
and we need to make this work. I gave y'all
what I got, but give me the opportunity to continue
(29:24):
to have a successful career because the time has come
and gone here. The sun has set on my time
here in Milwaukee. That's what this sounds like now.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Sam Amick of The Athletic Reporter that Damian Lillard is
ecstatic about the decision of the Bucks to move on
from him, so he doesn't seem all that bummed out
about it. But it just you talk about an idea
that didn't work at all, Like this was supposed to
be the pairing. This was supposed to be Yoannes's I
(29:56):
need help, I need somebody more, I need something different
and here, even though they won a title, even though
they want a championship, I need something more. They go out,
they finally get Damian Lillard, they pry him from Portland
after all those years, Dame saying I don't want to
be traded. I want to If I'm gonna win, I'm
gonna win it. Here they finally acquire him, they feel
(30:18):
like the team potentially to beat in the Eastern Conference,
and it just never worked out and never added up,
and in fact, it resulted in the help of getting
somebody else in the conference a world championship. Because Drew
Holliday was sent packing to Portland. Boston was trying to
move on from Malcolm Brogden, those rumors were out there.
(30:38):
He was upset that he was dangled in trade rumors,
and then all of a sudden, Drew Holidays in Portland.
Portland doesn't want to, you know, take on Drew Holliday's contract,
They trade for Malcolm Brogden, the Celtics, Land, Drew Holiday.
The rest is history, and now Drew Holidays back in
Portland anyways. So but it just it didn't work, and
they got aggressive and they tried this and it didn't work,
(31:00):
and now you just wonder, all right, what are we
doing here, what's the plan? And so now this becomes
another storyline of a superstar player in the NBA who's
not happy with his organization, not happy with a move
that they made, and potentially could be looking to go elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And elsewhere is probably looking for Jannis, and I don't
know who elsewhere is. But there's a team out here.
There's plenty of teams out here that could use Giannie's
his skill sets, and I'm sure he's desirable to some
guys out here with his skill set. So I'm curious
(31:37):
as to what that you know, what that team is.
If that comes to fruition, I would be more surprised.
You tell me, is there a betting odds out there?
Is there a line on this if Jannis ends up
back in Milwaukee versus on another team, because to me,
I would be shocked at this point, knowing how you
(31:59):
know this has gotten out, And Mike Haynes is you know,
he's he's like our guy cuffs, He's he's connected to
the street. He's not industry in the streets. Christane, Yeah, yeah,
I thinking that, Mike. Mike, Yeah, of course you said,
of course, I'm thinking because he's your Beers.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Fan, the raid or great.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Okay, that's a different Mike Haynes. That's a good one.
That's my man too, by the way, that's a good dude.
But you might I thought you were talking about the
Chicago Beers. You know Mike Haynes, No, no, the defensive lineman. No,
not him. No, But I came from Penn State.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But I do.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, I just wonder it's logical, though, it's it's logical
to think that jan is giving this this information to
Chris Uh. You gotta believe that that's a smoking gun,
that that is Yan is letting people know that this
(32:55):
is like this is this is it? Like I don't
want to be I don't want to be in Milwaukee anymore.
So if he's back in Milwaukee, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Like, what does that mean for for Yannis? What does
that mean for Milwaukee? Do they have the ability to
be competitive with a megastar, a max contract star that
doesn't want to be there?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I mean, the East is wide open, and it's wide
open because of the injuries like dam Lillard, and.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
There's and there's the chance that they could bring in
a guy, bring in some guys that changed Jannie's mind.
And here I don't feeling much better about Milwaukee. Again,
they do have a little bit of time.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
By the way, you remember when Jannis was standing in
line at a Mexican restaurant in Milwaukee, and nobody really
noticed that. Hey that's you, honest, Why is he Why
is he waiting in line? Like he should be seated immediately?
And he just sat there and waited there patiently, like
didn't not didn't cause a stink, didn't try in a
big time. Anybody just waited his turn. I think the
(34:00):
strung manager was very apologetic about it, and he just so,
look he's done.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It isn't that how it's supposed to be though.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, but for the most part, you know, you get
superstar athletes, you know, there are some that are just douchebags,
and so it's nice to see that he's in.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
They expect that. They expect that type of treatment.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, they expect the yeah, roll out, the red carpet treatment,
all that stuff. Like I remember one time sitting down
to get something to eat with you and you made
the server wash the silverware in front of us.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You got that, right, was super hot.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, so that you knew, Uh, that's not true. Everyone
get that one. Jonas Jonas is the germaphobe. By the way,
Jonas is the one that went, could you please wipe
the seats? Do you know how many germs will come
from some of the these seats.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh I am.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I couldnt afford to have a running nose in the
industry that I am in and the business that I do.
Can you make sure you wipe this off?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Please?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Hey, I'm one half of Black and Track, all right, Yes,
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a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
How many bodies? Honest, yesterday I told you before we
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At least somebody's mom alone.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Man. So coming up next here in another edition of
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You talk about a legend and disappointing news surrounding a legend.
We've got it for you here on FSR.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
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Speaker 1 (35:38):
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Speaker 2 (36:23):
De la H.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, LeVar, guys,
good lie. In case you missed this major injury last
night in the WNBA's Commissioner Cup Final between the Minnesota
Links and Indiana Fever.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
No, not Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
She was already sitting out with that groin injury, and
of course the Fever did win. Not an injury to
any of the players, but actually to Red Panda, who
is the halftime performer.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
You might recognize her if you've been to.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Any kind of uh basketball game in the last several years.
She fell off her seven foot tall bicycle or unicycle
during her unicycle and bowl routine. Fell on her wrist,
end up actually having to be taken off the court
in a wheelchair. No word yet on how severe the
injury is. But yeah, big time injury to Red Panda.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Huh, that's unfortunate. I don't think this has ever happened
before with her, right.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Nothing I know of.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
I've seen her, I've seen her live and yeah, flawless.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
What if she do?
Speaker 8 (37:19):
She goats on this seven foot tall unicycle and she
basically kind of for lack of a better term, juggles these.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Bulls okay on her feet and she fail.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, she fell off. There's catch video of it.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
She always wondered about stuff like that. Man, Like when
you go to see like Circus so let and stuff
like how do you perfect your skills? Like in everything
you have to fail, you have to mess up. Yeah, Like,
but if you're going all the way up in the
air around this this apparatus that's swinging you around and
you're doing trappee stuff and da da da this and that.
(37:53):
Like I always sit there and think to myself, dang
if what if one of them messes up?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Look like the Wilenda's the Wilendas who do the tight
wie tightrope it. Yeah, they walk across built. I mean,
you have to throw a perfect game every time out
because if you don't, you're going through somebody's car, car
windshield or into.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Niagara falls, you know what I mean, canyon never to
be seen.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Which, by the way, why not have like one of
them little parachutes on your back, by the way, like
just pull the parachute and try it again next time
a week, you know, just go ahead and die. Yeah,
it's kind of weak. If you're gonna do this, go
all the way, go all the way. Okay, there is
you go. Yeah, there is more respect for the method
acting when it comes to those Wilendas that want to
(38:39):
tight rope it. But I mean, hopefully red Panic can
be back.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Do you know how much does she make doing these
these performances at halftime? Like what is it? If you
had to guess, what do you think she gets per performance?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Like five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
She thinks she's doing that for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Well above a market value.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
Try five thousand dollars per performance, is what I'm reading here,
According to Sports Illustrated, all right, during the height of
shoot oh.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
During the height of her career. Get it. The high seat, you.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
See, Connor has been lee uh, just as I'm reading
it from SI here.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
So what you're trying to say is she figuratively and
literally fell from her high.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I mean, I would I would say this her high seat.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
That's probably a safe mantle to like, she's probably safe
on her throne from doing that, because if you ask
anybody else to partake, they're like not doing that. I'm
not a loser.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
How do you get up top on those things? By
the way, how do you get it going?
Speaker 8 (39:46):
You kind of you kind of hoist yourself up, and then.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
How do you get down? How do you fall down?
You know? Just mean, wouldn't be the same way she
fell and got hurt. Dang,
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
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the trade that nobody saw coming in the NFL and
could this mean bad news for one organization in the
AFC we will discuss. We're also going to have a
conversation about the real impact a dad has on his kid.
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Stories from our youth that may not be suitable for
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missed it. We've also got the very latest on superstars
that are disgruntled in the NBA. We've got Lamar Jackson
getting brutally honest about where he stands when it comes
to his flaws in the NFL. Plus, we're going to
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Wednesday morning. How we feel it? Sticks? What up stix?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Good morning sir? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
How we feel it?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Almo's overslept?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I was comfortable? Yeah, well it was comfortable. That bit
was cozy last night.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Man, I means you got that rem sleep. I sunk
up in there.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Man. You know we ain't supposed to do that. Number one,
don't don't sleep. We just don't. It just doesn't work
with our hours.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh yeah, with this time slot.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I can't. It doesn't work with our hours. And
people have the nerve to be a holes to us
at times. Man, do you understand the things we go
through to be able to deliver to you the content
that you're receiving?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, but listen, you know today, Yeah, that's all right.
I mean we're gonna we're going to power through this.
I mean, look well, I'm just saying I'll give you credit.
I mean, you're not gonna, you know, walk away, decide
to call it a.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Career and then decended then just pop back up.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, i'd like to. I like to go ahead and
uh and make this a thing again. Uh. So I
thought this was a fake story. I thought you had
sent me, you had sent me the link to this story,
and I thought that it was I was going to
click on something that was going to take me down
a road and an album.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Okay, okay, so okay, so that's.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yes, because you know, like next thing, you know, I
clicked something that you send me.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And all of a sudden, loan and he's down to.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We're in the serengetti and there's a bowl elephant walking
around like he's like he's got a building tweet and
it's just you know, the whole. So I got to
be very careful, especially if I'm at home looking at
these links. So I click the link and I go, wait, what,
Darren Waller, it's back. Hold on, second, hold on, we
(03:37):
just played this clip less than two weeks ago here
on this show because Darren Waller was on the side
you Don't See podcast, and he explained the moment he
realized that he no longer wanted to play in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
We were running like this counter lead running play and
I'm kind of like leading through the hole like I'm
a fullback and the play is working.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But I said, down on the sideline after like a drive.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Where he ran like three times, I'm like, what am
I doing with my I'm not here playing fullback. I
don't want to do this anymore. And I'm just like
looking at the moon. It's like early first quarter, second quarter.
Nobody else would really even know that I'm thinking this,
but almost all I like, Yep, I'm going to finish
this year with the best of my ability, but I'm
definitely done playing after this year.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Oops. Next thing, you know, he decides not I'd like
to play again, so much so that the Miami Dolphins,
following the trade of John news Smith, their Pro Bowl
tight end sent to the Pittsburgh Steelers as part of
the Mika Fitzpatrick Jalen Ramsey trade. The day before, the
Miami Dolphins have acquired Darren Waller from the New York Giants,
(04:41):
who still had his rights following his retirement. And I mean,
I guess. He went on to tell ESPN's Jordan ran On,
he told people close to him that he missed football
and was returning for the love of the game. Maya
would be He's like, let.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Your assumption should be He's like, lead to lap. I
can't believe anything he says or falls out. It doesn't
matter what he says.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You can't believe it. Lead lion, Lion Waller and lee.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Lead to lie that. I So I would read this
as I was done playing football, just football with the Giants.
That would be my interpretation of this, all right, And
and that would be or I was done playing football
until the opportunity to go to South Beach came up,
(05:40):
and maybe that was more of the appeal.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean, any one of those things could be a
possibility here. And again, here's the thing, right, I've been
saying this, and I'll hold true to this, all right.
Darren Waller's thirty two years old. But I know stretch
of the imagination is that old or over the hill,
(06:05):
But it ain't young. It's not young for his position,
It's not young for being in the league, like he's
a veteran at thirty two years old. I would say
here because I have said this about Aaron Aaron Rodgers.
(06:26):
I've said this at length because we have so much
time to talk about it. When somebody gives you an
interview that says that they have one foot in retirement
and maybe have a toe nail or two in the
water of playing, that's just a dangerous It's a dangerous move.
(06:46):
It's a dangerous move. And whether Darren Waller said he
was done because well, this was it and I was
looking around into space and I want to do my music,
whatever it may be. Whatever it is is that gave
him the reason to basically call it, call it a day,
(07:07):
you know, wrap it up. It's because his mind is there.
And I don't know if his mind is truly there,
but I don't know that it isn't because of the
things that he said to me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
If you brought him in there, you've brought him in.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
There to see where he's at with things, See how
he tests physically, make sure you're testing him out mentally,
to see if he really really wants to learn the playbook,
what he's willing to take his body to, you know,
the links he's willing to take his body to before
I make any type of real decision on him. If
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they traded for him, that means they took the contract.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That he had. How does that work? Because he did eat? Like,
how does that work?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, the Giants had his right, so whatever was the
remaining contract they would just assume as part of the trade.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So they were going to pay They were going to
pay Darren Waller while he was retired.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The Giants were so Waller signed if I have the
numbers correct here, he got a three well that was
with the Raiders, a three year, fifty one million dollar deal.
While he was with the Raiders, he signed his deal
with the Giants, or that was part of the deal
he got working with the Giants, and then the Dolphins
have assumed whatever was remaining on his contract that the
(08:29):
Giants were paying him.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Okay, I'd be curious as to what that number is,
because the Giants were willing to unload it, which means
that they were still having to pay Darren Waller. If
they were going to maintain his rights, that means that
they were going to still have to be paying him.
So if that's the case, and you traded that. I'm
curious as to how much that is because if Darren Waller,
(08:56):
Darren Waller comes back, he's not receiving more money unless
they were to do an extent with him, or restructure
the contract or redo the contract altogether. So he's coming
back for the same money, same amount of money, which
might be a nice amount of money, because I mean,
he did get a great deal, and well was Las Vegas.
(09:16):
They were in Las Vegas by then from the Raiders.
Then it has to be he didn't want to be
in New York playing for the New York Giants. It
has to be that there's the possibility that that could
be what it is. He stepped away with the idea
of feeling as though he could escape New York without
(09:36):
playing there anymore. And that would be interesting. That would
be interesting because while he may be lying or was lying,
maybe he was telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Maybe playing for a team.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
That that wasn't very good, and then the team he
played for before wasn't very good.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Maybe he was done.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So the new according to Adam Scheft of the new
deal is worth up to five million dollars a one
year deal.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, See that's not that's not. That's not that much money.
It's a it's a it's a nice amount for for
somebody who said they don't want to play anymore, But
that's not that's not a large number for them to consume.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, it's the Giants basically gave the blessing to trade
him by acquiring the picks that they got uh from
the Miami Dolphins, because they thought, listen, if he doesn't
want to play here, that's fine, we'll pick up something
for him and their late round picks in twenty twenty six.
You know, doesn't even you know, they probably won't even
factor in. It's just.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I don't think that's a big enough number to be concerned.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, to your point though, on the retirement thing, Dana
White has always said this the president of the UFC,
where he says, look, I tell fighters all the time,
if you're already thinking about retirement, you should probably just
head down that road. Like, if it's already in your
mind and.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You're already at your hit knocked off and.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You're already thinking about it, you should probably just you know,
go in that. And then I look at it and
I go, Man, if I'm a Dolphins fan, I don't know, dude,
like this, like that's the plan, that's what we're doing.
Like there's been there was speculation Kyle Pitts could have
been could have been had that maybe they would go
in the direction of Kyle Pitts because it just hasn't
(11:17):
worked out with Atlanta. But Kyle Pitch you look at
and you go prime of his career, he gets to Miami,
and who knows, maybe Mike McDaniel and company can do
something with Kyle Pitts that they couldn't unlock in Atlanta
because it just hasn't worked out there. And instead the
Miami response to that is no, we'll just go trade
for a guy who retired, Like what do we.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It just okay?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And and when you put it that way, Jonas, it
makes it very easy to come to like easy conclusions.
And to me, until you know they say, you know,
in business, you look like you're you're a lunatic or
you you look like you're crazy, until what you do,
you know, that's what we have here, It's an easy
(12:05):
conclusion to come to that these are not the most
the best decisions that are being made. And and if
you're bringing him in not only to see if he
can play. But if you're bringing him in to be
a starter and you don't really know where this dude's
mind is at, where his head is at, I mean,
i'd say this it is. It's a critical position, but
(12:28):
it's not a I must have position. I mean, you
could get him in there and you could use him
as you know, whatever it is that it's going to
work for in spot duty. I mean, maybe they're not
looking at it like they're fitting to ride to train with,
pause with with Darren Waller, like it's it's it might
(12:48):
not It clearly isn't stated by the way his contract
sounds how much they're paying him, that that they're really
putting too much of an investment into him as a player.
So I don't know that it's that big of a deal,
but it still seemed like a you know, and look,
you mentioned Dana white Bones Jones was staying retiring. He stayed.
(13:10):
He stayed telling people, I'm retired, I'm retired. I'm retired.
And I think in the fight game it's a little
bit more acceptable because guys say they're doing it all the.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Time and they come back a leverage play for more money, and.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Sure, sure it is then they come back next month
and they fight, you know, like that's that's kind of
how it goes in like the fight game. But here
in football and the guy is at age thirty two.
It's not that's not a that's not an age you
play around with it. It's really not like that. To me,
(13:48):
that is an age where you're you're you're gonna play
and if you're like say, if you're one of those
Hall of Fame types like Charles Hayley like he did
it and stuff like that, like guys come out of
retirement to come play for a little bit of time
or duration of time. I get that, But he came
(14:10):
out of retirement and he's planning on going through a
full season. I just don't, you know, I don't trust it.
I don't trust it. And listen, I've met Darren Waller.
I think he's a cool dude. I think he's a
super super cool dude. And I hate when I have
to say things that I really, you know, feel when
it's somebody that you know, I've met and I've gotten
(14:31):
an opportunity to get a chance to know when it's
something that's not crazy positive. But I just don't think
it's crazy positive to bring on a guy and pay
them any amount of money when they've already told you
I don't want to play this game anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Like that quote was as.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Clear and concise as it could get in saying why
I didn't want to play. Now you had a change
of heart. You're allowed to have a change of heart.
People are allowed to have change of heart. You have
changes of heart all the time. But just keep in
mind that change of heart could go back into oh,
now I remember why I retired again. You know, now,
granted South Beach, you're not going to deal with any
(15:10):
weather that's going to make you say that other than
it's too hot, you're not going to and you know
he's you know, he's not in I don't believe he's
in any entanglements at the moment.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So you know that's that could be.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
There could be a lot of incentive for him to
go to Miami and play really well. Not to say that,
you know, girls are any incentive, but weather certainly is.
Weather certainly is a crazy incentive to want to come
back and play.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Here's the part that doesn't add up to me. If
I'm the Dolphins, So the John new Smith speculation about
getting traded We've been talking about for a couple of
months on the show. That's been a talking point of
discussion for a couple of months on the show. So
clearly because John hu Smith had signed a two year,
(16:02):
eight point four million dollar deal with Miami, he performed,
had the best season of his career last year, and
they were looking at trying to do a different deal.
John Hu Smith wanted to stay in Miami. He was
on record as saying, I prefer to stay in Miami.
And so you're the Dolphins. You've got all of this
information about John Hu Smith, his situation and whatnot. You
(16:24):
know that this is probably going to result in a transaction,
meaning he's going to get traded elsewhere. All this time
to figure out a solution, and the solution you come
up with is let's trade for a guy who's thirty
two and retired. I'm sorry, man, I just I don't
get it. I don't get it. I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And didn't play.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yes, let's keep that in mind. He did not play
this past season.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It's like God, he did not playes Zaligi retired and
he's been off since February because he just won a
Super Bowl gone did not play. He did not play,
was doing music And no hate, I'm not hating on him,
not no shade being thrown at all. But it's just
a little bit of a bizarre answer to a question
(17:12):
that you were asked months ago about your tight end position.
And this is where we are. Okay, I don't you know,
but this is why I look at Miami this year
and I go, I hope it works. I love Tua,
love Mike McDaniel, I hope he stays healthy. I just
there's just some puzzling things that are happening there that
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don't seem to add up.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It just looks like that's happening with a few teams.
But hey, like the perception of it is. It's just
that's there's some shakiness with some of these teams.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But on the bright side, Tyreek Hill did beat Noah
Lyle's brother, his brother in a hundred meters dash. Okay
he did still, so there's it's not all doom and
gloom for the Miami Dolphins. There some some positive news.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And they got Meka Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah you know that, and he's going to make their
team a better team and he's familiar with them. Obviously
they're familiar with him, and this second time, this second
go around, you know, maybe a really good good stint
for him.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And also, if you've got to make a Fitzpatrick jersey
from his first time around.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Nake, you can just recycle it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Dust that bad boy.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Possibly, possibly does he get the same number?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't know, I would, I mean I would hope,
So Lee, can you double check whether or not MEKEA
Fitzpatrick gets the same number. And I'm trying to figure
out what number that was because I don't think he was.
Was he thirty nine with the Dolphins? Isn't that Larry
Zonka's number? I think he was twenty nine with the Dogs? Okay, yeah,
(18:50):
so yeah, so then listen, if you've got that jersey
line around, go ahead, dust it off.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Let's make it happen, even if it's even if it
is a different number for nostalgia, say dust it up.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
We like, you know, how many people had a number
seven d Brown jersey from back in the.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Day and then all the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, and then all of a sudden they drafted Jalen
Brown and it's like same last name, same number. Here
we go save yourself about one hundred and twenty bucks
for a New Jersey rock and roll. But hey, Congra,
Congratulations to Darren Waller back in the NFL. He returns
to the league and he is a member of the
Miami Dolphins. It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
(19:30):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you.
By the way, for anybody, somebody just asked on social media,
did I really just hear you say Black and Drack? Yes,
you did. That's the name of the show Black and Drack.
On this three hour journey here on a Wednesday morning,
we are gonna have the usuals coming up later on.
We've got another edition of in case you missed it.
We've got our Midweek Awards We're gonna get to We've
(19:51):
got Lee's leftovers, the old p Petricks problem. AGAs is
gonna stop by. Yeah, you got a problem with Black
and Drack.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Huh you got a problem with that, buddy?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Huh huh disrespect?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You need a real one? Uh you your real one? Buddy?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Coming up next here, though, we've got a superstar who
is not pleased in the world of sports. Find out why.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
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Speaker 1 (20:57):
By the way, if Darren Waller goes out and has
an unbelievable year, I want all this stricken from the
record that we talked about in the previous segment.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
All right, you wont hear funny. This has absolutely nothing
to do with anything. But I saw this on social
media and it had me hurting, he said. The dude said,
I had a flashback moment the other day, called my dad.
My dad answered, I asked my dad to come get
(21:27):
me from this sleepover.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I don't like this sleepover.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Dad said, hold on, man, you're forty five and that's your.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Wife and kid.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Hey man, such a good one.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Me and my homies we be We got a text
line that we be sending to each other different social media.
Little shorts. Man, that was a good one. That was
a good one. I don't like this sleepover.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
It's not a bad idea, say dad, can't you come
get me? It's not a bad idea anything.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
How if you could go back in time right now,
but not go back in time. You're here right now
in the moment, your your age, you have everything you
have going on, and you decided to go back home
and live with your parents, all things given they're there,
The home is there.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Would you go back?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
And if you went back, how do you think that
would play out?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You would go back?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Okay, Now how would that be? How? How like?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
How how would at your age living with your parents
right now, knowing that you have, you know, a wife
and a family, how would you be How would you
be at home? As Jonas whipped my parents again now
as an adult.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Oh, probably more comfortable because I got back up, Like
I got back up. What do you mean they're gonna
have my side, They're going to take my side?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well you mean take your side on what?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, I'm just saying like because that it's it's a
home game for me, because if they're if they're the
the in laws or at my house, my side in
the family's house. So it would feel like no matter what,
I've got back up, Like, hey, folks are here, you know, hey,
better keep it down.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
The folks are here. Oh see, I'm not taking anyone
with me, That's what I'm saying. Oh you're saying, go
and back alone. Like what would it be like to
be Jonas at home with your with your mom and
your dad?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Even better?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Like it was like like you left the.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Sleepers better, that's an even better option. Oh yes, I'm
going back. You kidding me.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I caused a lot of problems when I was growing up. Man,
My parents was My parents were happy they got me
up out of the house, you know what I mean.
But if I went back, I wonder it'd probably be better.
They'd probably be better.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'd be like, Mom, meet loaf.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, it's also mom. It's also the older. The older
you get, the more you look back on quotes and
things that your parents said and were like, A. That
was very wise and very true, and B that was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, especially from your dad. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Because I used to ask my dad like, I'd be like,
we'd be pulling up. I can remember this one vividly.
He used it quite a bit and and I'd be like,
you know, we'd be going to school in the morning.
My dad drove us to school in the morning, and
we'd have to stop and my mom, you know, they'd
be having a moment, and she'd get out and go
into the Uni mart. And I'd be like, Dad, what's
(24:43):
wrong with mommy. He'd be like, son, every once in
a while, she becomes a possible murder suspect.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Oh Jesus.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
And I'd be like, oh, I better leave mom alone today.
He said yes, and tomorrow, and I never understood it,
never understood it. Then eventually I put together what the
acronym of possible murder suspect was, and later on.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
In life that joint became funny to me.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He would say it, and looking back on I'd be like, dang,
I get it. Yeah, Now my son's my son's be
like what's going on? Be like, mommy's a possible murder
suspect today? Like relax, bro, Yeah, relax.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
My dad wasn't as creative. He was a little bit
more abrasive when it came to you. I've told this before.
I remember him. I got a birthday card one year
that said, uh, Jesus loves you on the front, and
I opened up the inside. He said, but it's everybody else.
He thinks you're an a hole. Dang, all right, here
we go.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Dang, that's a little hard cool.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, But like if I did that nowadays, if I
give that to my son, child Services would come and
take him like that would be. But back then, it
was just you know, ball busting.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You know, it was easy. It was easy to do,
but easy to do.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's that's pretty funny. Possible murder suspect. There you go,
I'll be stealing that. It is a two pros and
a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar
Arrington Jonas Knox with you. So we are going to
get into this story about somebody who's not happy in
the world of sports a superstar, not thrilled. That'll be
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So it's a cold world out there. It is a cold,
(27:17):
cruel world. It is especially in the NBA. Damian Lillard
ruptures his achilles in Game four of the playoffs against
the Indiana Pacers, and that'll do it. Damian Lillard waved
by the Milwaukee Bucks, who then turned around and signed
in Indiana pacer in Miles Turner to a four year
(27:39):
deal and according to Chris Haynes, who covers the NBA
does a very nice job. Jannis Antennacumpo not happy with
how they handled the Damian Lillard situation.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That's the report.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, but let's be real here. He wasn't happy to
begin with, right. I mean, there's there's been all kinds
of things circulating about the possibilities of Yannis trying to
get up out of Milwaukee and listen, if the reports
are true, and he feels as though they're not going
in the right direction. Knowing the things that I know
(28:20):
now and knowing how the league works, for the NBA,
I'm looking. I'm looking around to see where I can go.
I got I got some good years of basketball left
in me. I won a championship here, I've got multiple
MVP Awards here. No one can have anything bad to
(28:42):
say about me, And if they do, who cares. I
did what I was supposed to do, and I always
did it. And and by the way, Yannis has always
done it with grace and has done it with great character.
I mean, he has been a solid, tremendous, you know,
ambassador to the game of basketball and what that represents
(29:03):
abroad because of the type of person. He is just
a really really strong character human being. So to me,
this screams I'm like, I'm not going to try to
hostily get out of here, but I am going to
let you know that I don't want to be here
and we need to make this work. I gave y'all
what I got, but give me the opportunity to continue
(29:24):
to have a successful career because the time has come
and gone here. The sun has set on my time
here in Milwaukee. That's what this sounds like now.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Sam Amick of The Athletic Reporter that Damian Lillard is
ecstatic about the decision of the Bucks to move on
from him, so he doesn't seem all that bummed out
about it. But it just you talk about an idea
that didn't work at all, Like this was supposed to
be the pairing. This was supposed to be Yoannes's I
(29:56):
need help, I need somebody more, I need something different
and here, even though they won a title, even though
they want a championship, I need something more. They go out,
they finally get Damian Lillard, they pry him from Portland
after all those years, Dame saying I don't want to
be traded. I want to If I'm gonna win, I'm
gonna win it. Here they finally acquire him, they feel
(30:18):
like the team potentially to beat in the Eastern Conference,
and it just never worked out and never added up,
and in fact, it resulted in the help of getting
somebody else in the conference a world championship. Because Drew
Holliday was sent packing to Portland. Boston was trying to
move on from Malcolm Brogden, those rumors were out there.
(30:38):
He was upset that he was dangled in trade rumors,
and then all of a sudden, Drew Holidays in Portland.
Portland doesn't want to, you know, take on Drew Holliday's contract,
They trade for Malcolm Brogden, the Celtics, Land, Drew Holiday.
The rest is history, and now Drew Holidays back in
Portland anyways. So but it just it didn't work, and
they got aggressive and they tried this and it didn't work,
(31:00):
and now you just wonder, all right, what are we
doing here, what's the plan? And so now this becomes
another storyline of a superstar player in the NBA who's
not happy with his organization, not happy with a move
that they made, and potentially could be looking to go elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And elsewhere is probably looking for Jannis, and I don't
know who elsewhere is. But there's a team out here.
There's plenty of teams out here that could use Giannie's
his skill sets, and I'm sure he's desirable to some
guys out here with his skill set. So I'm curious
(31:37):
as to what that you know, what that team is.
If that comes to fruition, I would be more surprised.
You tell me, is there a betting odds out there?
Is there a line on this if Jannis ends up
back in Milwaukee versus on another team, because to me,
I would be shocked at this point, knowing how you
(31:59):
know this has gotten out, And Mike Haynes is you know,
he's he's like our guy cuffs, He's he's connected to
the street. He's not industry in the streets. Christane, Yeah, yeah,
I thinking that, Mike. Mike, Yeah, of course you said,
of course, I'm thinking because he's your Beers.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Fan, the raid or great.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Okay, that's a different Mike Haynes. That's a good one.
That's my man too, by the way, that's a good dude.
But you might I thought you were talking about the
Chicago Beers. You know Mike Haynes, No, no, the defensive lineman. No,
not him. No, But I came from Penn State.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But I do.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, I just wonder it's logical, though, it's it's logical
to think that jan is giving this this information to
Chris Uh. You gotta believe that that's a smoking gun,
that that is Yan is letting people know that this
(32:55):
is like this is this is it? Like I don't
want to be I don't want to be in Milwaukee anymore.
So if he's back in Milwaukee, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Like, what does that mean for for Yannis? What does
that mean for Milwaukee? Do they have the ability to
be competitive with a megastar, a max contract star that
doesn't want to be there?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I mean, the East is wide open, and it's wide
open because of the injuries like dam Lillard, and.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
There's and there's the chance that they could bring in
a guy, bring in some guys that changed Jannie's mind.
And here I don't feeling much better about Milwaukee. Again,
they do have a little bit of time.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
By the way, you remember when Jannis was standing in
line at a Mexican restaurant in Milwaukee, and nobody really
noticed that. Hey that's you, honest, Why is he Why
is he waiting in line? Like he should be seated immediately?
And he just sat there and waited there patiently, like
didn't not didn't cause a stink, didn't try in a
big time. Anybody just waited his turn. I think the
(34:00):
strung manager was very apologetic about it, and he just so,
look he's done.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It isn't that how it's supposed to be though.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, but for the most part, you know, you get
superstar athletes, you know, there are some that are just douchebags,
and so it's nice to see that he's in.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
They expect that. They expect that type of treatment.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, they expect the yeah, roll out, the red carpet treatment,
all that stuff. Like I remember one time sitting down
to get something to eat with you and you made
the server wash the silverware in front of us.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You got that, right, was super hot.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, so that you knew, Uh, that's not true. Everyone
get that one. Jonas Jonas is the germaphobe. By the way,
Jonas is the one that went, could you please wipe
the seats? Do you know how many germs will come
from some of the these seats.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh I am.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I couldnt afford to have a running nose in the
industry that I am in and the business that I do.
Can you make sure you wipe this off?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Please?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Hey, I'm one half of Black and Track, all right, Yes,
they need to be healthy, all right? Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
How many bodies? Honest, yesterday I told you before we
got off the FO help me. Don't get too many bodies, man,
At least somebody's mom alone.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Man. So coming up next here in another edition of
In case you missed it, this is unfortunate, all right.
You talk about a legend and disappointing news surrounding a legend.
We've got it for you here on FSR.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here, coming up top next.
Now we'll call it a little over ten minutes from now.
We're going to tell you about somebody in the NFL
who's identified a flaw. They've got a flaw. We'll discuss
that'll be yours here on FSR. Before we get to
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And for that, we turn it over to our executive producer,
Lee lap.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
De la H.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, LeVar, guys,
good lie. In case you missed this major injury last
night in the WNBA's Commissioner Cup Final between the Minnesota
Links and Indiana Fever.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
No, not Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
She was already sitting out with that groin injury, and
of course the Fever did win. Not an injury to
any of the players, but actually to Red Panda, who
is the halftime performer.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
You might recognize her if you've been to.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Any kind of uh basketball game in the last several years.
She fell off her seven foot tall bicycle or unicycle
during her unicycle and bowl routine. Fell on her wrist,
end up actually having to be taken off the court
in a wheelchair. No word yet on how severe the
injury is. But yeah, big time injury to Red Panda.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Huh, that's unfortunate. I don't think this has ever happened
before with her, right.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Nothing I know of.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
I've seen her, I've seen her live and yeah, flawless.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
What if she do?
Speaker 8 (37:19):
She goats on this seven foot tall unicycle and she
basically kind of for lack of a better term, juggles these.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Bulls okay on her feet and she fail.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, she fell off. There's catch video of it.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
She always wondered about stuff like that. Man, Like when
you go to see like Circus so let and stuff
like how do you perfect your skills? Like in everything
you have to fail, you have to mess up. Yeah, Like,
but if you're going all the way up in the
air around this this apparatus that's swinging you around and
you're doing trappee stuff and da da da this and that.
(37:53):
Like I always sit there and think to myself, dang
if what if one of them messes up?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Look like the Wilenda's the Wilendas who do the tight
wie tightrope it. Yeah, they walk across built. I mean,
you have to throw a perfect game every time out
because if you don't, you're going through somebody's car, car
windshield or into.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Niagara falls, you know what I mean, canyon never to
be seen.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Which, by the way, why not have like one of
them little parachutes on your back, by the way, like
just pull the parachute and try it again next time
a week, you know, just go ahead and die. Yeah,
it's kind of weak. If you're gonna do this, go
all the way, go all the way. Okay, there is
you go. Yeah, there is more respect for the method
acting when it comes to those Wilendas that want to
(38:39):
tight rope it. But I mean, hopefully red Panic can
be back.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Do you know how much does she make doing these
these performances at halftime? Like what is it? If you
had to guess, what do you think she gets per performance?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Like five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
She thinks she's doing that for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Well above a market value.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
Try five thousand dollars per performance, is what I'm reading here,
According to Sports Illustrated, all right, during the height of
shoot oh.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
During the height of her career. Get it. The high seat, you.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
See, Connor has been lee uh, just as I'm reading
it from SI here.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
So what you're trying to say is she figuratively and
literally fell from her high.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I mean, I would I would say this her high seat.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
That's probably a safe mantle to like, she's probably safe
on her throne from doing that, because if you ask
anybody else to partake, they're like not doing that. I'm
not a loser.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
How do you get up top on those things? By
the way, how do you get it going?
Speaker 8 (39:46):
You kind of you kind of hoist yourself up, and then.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
How do you get down? How do you fall down?
You know? Just mean, wouldn't be the same way she
fell and got hurt. Dang,
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