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October 24, 2025 41 mins

Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington, and Brady Quinn react to the insane illegal gambling scandal involving NBA players and coaches. Brady previews the weekend in college football in the latest edition of Quinn's Wins. Plus, the most infamous name in NBA gambling history weighs in on the explosive FBI investigation.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up on this Football Friday. Of course, we're gonna talk football.
Game one of Week eight in the NFL is in
the books, and it was a rough one for Carson
Wentz and the Minnesota Vikings. But at least on the
bright side, the Chargers got through that game healthy. Right wrong,
We'll give you the latest update on that franchise. It

(00:22):
seems to always run into the same issue every single time.
Speaking of issues, how about the NBA. Nothing to see here.
We're gonna go ahead and sweep this whole thing under
the rug. Oops. We've got betting machines and sunglasses that
turn into X ray machines, and we've got all sorts
of card counting, and we've got Hall of Famers involved,

(00:42):
and we got point spreads and manipulation and all sorts
of fun stuff. You're gonna hear from parties involved in
the investigation and we will discuss. We've also got the
very latest on the future of Tyreek Hill. Maybe retirement
is in the cards for him. And we've got another
edition of our Picks against the spread and we've got
quinns wins. It's all yours coming up next here. Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe on a Football Friday,

(01:04):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
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Speaker 3 (01:34):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Hold on, all right, good for you, Joe, hold on,
bro oh, good for you. Been best one since albos curt.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I mean it's good.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Mind.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
This is gives me hike, though fizzle of ours doing
mine was so bad that they're like, yeah, we'll just
double up all Levar's son of a bitch.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
Like it.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I like it, LeVar, right, I was trying to give
Jonas process. This is you. I like it. Good job, buddies.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, well maybe mine's next hour.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah, it's that go crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Right here, If this isn't it, I hope it's not ever, because.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Damn, what a disappointment. Well, it is two pros and
a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, Laar Chargers,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Nazi Year. You can listen to the
show on the iHeartRadio app. Yeah, find this on hundreds
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making us a part of your football Friday, we appreciate
you doing so as we take you all the way
up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. And

(02:49):
how we feeling here because it's probably better than Carson
Wentz at this point because he took beating last night.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Yeah, the Vikings last night.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
M M.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
They had no run man. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Vikings had no run game.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Man.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
Like, you can't win it just throwing. You gotta have
a little bit, you gotta have balance.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
That's you know.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
That's why I really appreciate about hardball. Like Jim wants
to run the ball. He wants that traditional almost traditional
balance of how he operates his offense. And then you
play aggressive hard defense. You play aggressive well you know defense.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Hart didn't seem right to me to take it away.
I don't know it's outright, but they look good. I
don't know, hard defense, I don't know. It just just
hit me different just now. But listen, anything that's a
great bounce back for the Chargers. I mean they actually
look really good against a team that I thought was

(03:58):
really good.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Just just trying to find their way a little bit.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
But get props to to the Charges, and get props
for me for picking it? Like who who picked it? Q?

Speaker 7 (04:08):
Like?

Speaker 6 (04:08):
Did anybody else pick it? Because I know I got
mine all the way right, I believe.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know that we uh.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, we didn't do it.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
We didn't, Yeah, we did. We picked We did do
to pick on this.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
No, No, I don't think so. It was it was,
Uh it was two Monday night games we did, and
we did it yesterday the other day. I think the
Chargers might have been part of last week's picks.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, maybe because we haven't ours against the spread for
this week.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Huh saying we talked about it.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
What do you think we're playing in the NBA or something?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Man?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Hey, man, I think it's Gilbert Arenas that snitched on everybody,
Like that's what everybody's putting out there.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
I mean it did.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
It does seem strange that the dude got popped for gambling,
came home like literally the same day, which that never happened,
goes home the same day, goes about his business like everything.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Is all good.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, well, here's where, here's where this doesn't hold up.
And this is where unfortunately, like many others who have
opinions on this whole matter, they're really inaccurate with with
what's going on here. There's been an investigation going on
by the FBI for years. I mean, if you look

(05:25):
into this and it's wild and I know, Jonas, you've
got a ton of stuff on this, but Terry Rozier individually,
like this dates back to twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three,
that season, and do you remember when he like there
was the whole speculation that he was tipping off someone

(05:46):
about his individual prop bet unders is that is that
I have this right Jones?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, March twenty twenty three and.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
He ended up missing the entire rest of the season
because the NBA did their investigation and then the FBI
was still doing theirs, and they never they never finished.
Like the NBA, I think had cleared him, but don't
get it twisted. They pulled him from playing. It wasn't
injury related. Ryan Windhorst talked about this yesterday. They've known

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since then that this stuff was was out there, what's
going on? Like, they've known that the FEDS were looking
into this a lot deeper, and it predates some of that.
As you go down this wormhole of looking at everything
that's come out, some of these pro poker players are like, yeah,
we had a sense of something was up.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Like I said, I just maybe they hate they found
their star, their star witness. No, I mean, maybe that's
just I don't know, maybe it's just that's AI and
and I don't know, maybe it's just fake news. But
I found it to be kind of interesting. Not too
long after this dude gets busted.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
No, Chill Gill, No, Chilli didn't know Chill Gill. Who's
the our favorite sound bite, your thick tongue ass?

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Oh yeah, Brown Brown.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I think he was the one who who basically was
calling out Gilbert Arenas a few months ago, saying he
was gonna Snitcher after rat or something like that.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
But how about Stephen A saying that with Donald Trump
coming together.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I had to do it. I had to do it.
Donald Trump gets playing forever. I had to do it.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
What about Trump being the reason why he's coming for
the NBA, He's coming for the w n B A next,
That's what they said.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I just had a buddy who was he was in
DC this week and it's like, you know, it's clean,
there's no like mess, there's no nothing walking on and
all of that. He's like and then people were complaining
about that. Then they're like, oh now it's too nice,
it's too need, it's too clean, it's too quiet. I'm like, okay,
it's it's unbelievable. Like people, people can't have it. They

(08:07):
they have to complain about something, and they just blame
it on that dude.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Ain't nobody told them cast a gamble man. Ain't nobody
told them to do what they were doing and knowing
that they were doing what they were doing and what
it could lead to.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Hain't nobody told them to do it?

Speaker 6 (08:21):
Not no President, not no, no. I don't know anybody else.
I mean, maybe somebody close to him told him to.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
But okay, but no, but but but there tends to
be this question of why like if you made over
one hundred million dollars in your playing career, if you're
Terry roch aby Way, he's the twenty six this year.
I think something like that, Ye twenty six million, Chauncey
Billups who made over one hundred million playing, who's been coaching?

(08:49):
How much are you getting paid off of this that
would make it worthwhile to you to risk everything or
what you do to get yourself in a hole where
you now owe these people or you owe someone and
you've got to do this because of that. And if

(09:11):
the mafia is involved, it lends me to think that
maybe they're in debt. Maybe they had some betting that
went too far the other way, and that's how they're
trying to get out of it. Like, I don't know,
this is wild speculation. I've realized that, but I'm just
talking out loud because it doesn't make sense to me.
And I guess look like you see, you know people

(09:33):
who do white collar crimes, like you know stock traders,
insider trading, right, they make millions and then they but
that's partially how they made those millions, right, they kind
of did it maybe with insider trading or finding different
tips and that's that's part of that. This is like
entirely different. This is like, you know, dudes who are
amazing at one thing, have you know, clout, fame and

(09:55):
legendary careers, and then you put all that at risk
for poker. Is that gambling scheme?

Speaker 6 (10:03):
The part the part that they did they saying rigged
poker games backed by mafia. Yeah, oh yeah, the mafia
tie in is wild. And the other part that I
think is kind of laughing is that's who I thought of.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I swear to God. When they started listing off the
crime families, I'm like, Dean's got to know somebody. But
when they were, when they were, you know, I see
people going out there, you know, saying stuff like well,
I mean, what do you expect? I mean, do you
take money from gambling? And ESPN's got a gambling logo
on the screen on the chiron. They've got to take
it off when they start talking about this skit. Dude,

(10:39):
if somebody gets popped for a d UI, do you
shut down all the liquor stores. No, that guy's an idiot.
He needs to control himself. It's not everybody else's responsibility
that he can't get his act together, if these leagues
are getting in bed with gambling companies or gambling sites
like DraftKings, it's not everybody's doing this. These guys couldn't

(11:01):
help themselves. And a lot of this stuff had nothing
to do with the NBA. A lot of this stuff
was the illegal poker schemes, the you know, the Chauncey billups,
you know, basically acknowledging to one of the defendants that oh,
by the way, you know, we're tanking this year for
the for the Victor Webbin Yama Draft, Like, we're basically
tanking this year. That's also something the NBA is going

(11:23):
to have to answer for because you had a coach
who basically acknowledged yet we're tanking games in the end.
And here's who you should bet on, Damon Jones, who
is tipping people off about injuries, the Terry Rozier stuff
you just laid out like that. Those are three guys
who made scumbag decisions and impacted thousands of people with
billions or millions of dollars. And the idea that we're

(11:46):
going to pin this on well, I mean, you got
involved with gambling companies. What do you expect, No, you
expect that somebody is going to be on the up
and up and not be a scumbag about it. That's
what you expect. It's not everybody else's fault. They couldn't
get it together.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
M x ray machines under to take. They said, awesome,
did you did you look at the glasses? I mean,
did you see what Johanna said?

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Uh? You got it, dude.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
You got to check this out. It's wild. I'm like,
all right, this is like bonified cheating, Like this is ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Where's that?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Look at this?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well, it's in the Google doc that you do want
to put. Yeah, I don't find it.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
I don't use it.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
It'd be a very useful reason. It'd be like these glasses,
that's how that's how much it would help you. It
would basically be a cheat out for you.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
You put these glasses on, you can see every card
face down.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I'll be honest with you. At some point, don't you
give them at least like forty percent of the money
back just for the effort they put in, Like, listen,
we don't want all that hard work to go away.
Here's forty percent back. All right, Well, we'll cut your
time in jail in half.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
So they was marking, they was marking the cards. Yeah, yeah, dude, great,
that's crazy man.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
They had contact lenses where they could see the the
cards that were marked out of the shoe, which is
wild because you know, if someone comes in there with
like contacts on, you probably aren't noticing anything. If they
are glasses, that's one thing. Maybe it's a little suspect.
But they're wearing like contacts, they are allowing them to
see some of this. I had. The fix was in, dude, Well,

(13:20):
you out there who are playing this, you know, five
card drawl like poker, good luck and good luck when
you're when you're going these private rooms and you see
that one jerko who's just winning every hand.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
There you go and the and the lore of the
whole thing was, well, you get to play poser.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
He's got a dog walking company, but he's now a
millionaire because he's somehow winning all these all these poker rooms.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
You're like, oh, well, well you get to uh, you
get to play you get to play poker with Chauncey
Billups and you get to play poker with all these
NBA players. Come hang out and they're like, wow.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Dog walker beating me every time? The hell's going on?

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Not a mermaid?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Would you? Would you explain what's happening here? Lamar, please explain?
Jack Chad, I don't know what's on TV, but it's
some movie about a guy holding uh at work like
a little figurine of a mermaid fan size val the murmur.

(14:22):
He's just he didnt crumbled to the ground. He's so
ashamed of himself.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
Such an awkward scene.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Guys, a little wooden figurine. I just had a date
with his blisters to a figurine. Oh man, feels ashamed.
He's in some log cabin. By the way, Is that
the set where Belichick and his girlfriend filmed the vandicamp
photo shoot?

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Stupid?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Say it was on the water. It looks like it.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
What was the movie? Was the movie with the Mermaid?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
What it?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Calash Tom Haiks movie? Yeah, there you go, Daryl Hannah.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Hey man, this dude, this is as bad as this
gambling conversation.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
He's bad, Hey, Coop, what movie is this? Just we
can give context as to what's going on here.

Speaker 8 (15:14):
The lighthouse, Oh god, with Robert Pattinson who loves mermaids,
looks like the butcher.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Oh my god, this movie looks awful. It's horrible, bro
and I got a nine rotten tomatoes.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Yes, this is.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
Horrible, got the green Goblin in it.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Weirdos, they're just weird people.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
They're done though, right, anybody connect On.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
A remote island. He from Winslow arrives as a lighthouse
keeper and assist his elderly supervisor, Thomas Wake. As days pass,
he from his haunted by strange and mysterious visions banging
out uh flipper holding a figure. I bet Lee's seen that.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Wow was one of his favorite movies. I'm not kidding
at all. God, he really does love this.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Wasubbing that figure.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's Brokenah, come on, man, it's not making any noises. Hey,
I'm talking to you.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Give me that.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
Come on, give me that. Give me a little more.
Are they done forever?

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Like?

Speaker 6 (16:29):
Oh god, they were coaches players that It's like, that's
a you can't.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I mean if look and I do think that it's
kind of and Brady mentioned the NBA knew this and
kind of swept the Rosier stuff under the rug by
the way. Rosier didn't play the rest of that year,
but it was okay for him to come back and
play for the following year, the entire time. And that's
the part that's that's crazy about it. And and ESPN,

(16:57):
who did their best to try and avoid having to
talk about it yesterday because they were trying to push
out other stories and everyone's like, hey, dude, this this
is the biggest story in sports. Why you guys avoiding it.
ESPN tried to tell everybody last year the invest the
investigation was over case closed, and Chris Haynes was the
guy saying, no, it's not. They're still looking into this.
This is bad. And they did everything they could to

(17:19):
try and bury this whole story. ESPN, the NBA, and
I mentioned this yesterday. If you go back to the
Tim Donahey scandal, the NBA knew about that one as
well too, but they didn't want it to get in
the way with their billion dollar TV rights deal. And
if I'm not mistaken, there was just one that was
signed involving NBC, Amazon Prime.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
If you're those companies.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
If you're those companies, aren't you looking around going hey, man, like,
we just paid a billion something dollars per a league this.

Speaker 9 (17:52):
Uh oh, it's your prop bet for today.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I'll see what the next card is it's like, all right, well,
can you imagine NBC loading up their studio, all these plans,
everything going on, paying millions of dollars and like, oh yeah,
round Ball Rock It's back.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Baby.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
It's like, well, maybe not as much as we thought
it was. You know, I think it's not quite the same.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
But I mean it's perfect time and to create a
storyline for people to tune in and have a little
tune out.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
But what the problem is is if you so, here's
the problem with this. The league hit its peak in
the nineties. Like I think it's fair to say that, Yeah,
the league has been trying to grab on as something
ever since, and they have their moments. There's still superstars,
you know, there's Lebron and Staph and all that. But
the reality is that was the peak of the NBA,

(18:50):
Like that Jordan era, that era with those superstars, that
was the pinnacle of all of it. And I'm not
going to say that, like the NFL wasn't my there too,
But that was the peak of the NBA. It has
been on a downhill trajectory since. And I think one
of the reasons that I think people are skeptical is

(19:12):
is this sort of stuff. Tim donaghy was part of
it back then. But there's always a thought, man that
there's just there's something to this league. It's hard to
gamble on ben On. There's just there's too much stuff
going on in that regard. And now this like if
if I'm if I'm looking at it from a gambling standpoint,

(19:32):
I'm staying away. Man Like, unless I've got the inside
track and I'm on that side of it and I'm
getting tipped off about whatever the mafia is doing or
whatever whatever someone else has going on, You're you're not
being involved.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
In a This.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
One of the one of the stories that was being
told because I'll give listen, I'll give Brian Windhorse credit.
Like he works for ESPN. I think he's still with
the ESPN. If I'm not mistaken. People were shuffling around
he works for ESPN. He called them out and called
out the NBA right away, And one of the things
he talked about was the Damon Jones aspect of it,
to where Damon Jones was an assistant coach with the Lakers. Well,

(20:12):
he knew that Lebron wasn't going to be playing in
a game, and so he tipped off his people and said, hey,
Lebron's not going to be playing. You know, bet your
money on Milwaukee. They were playing at the time. Milwaukee
ended up winning. All those people got paid. Another instance,
he did something similar, But the problem is the Lakers
actually won, and so all those people were pissed and

(20:33):
went to Damon Jones and said, we want our money back.
You gave us bad information. The whole thing it's bananas.
It's bananas. The whole thing is wild.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
We want our money back. Man.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
They get their money to Damon Jones, but they what
you mean, we want our money back, went and placed
what we bet.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
They went and placed a bunch of wagers and and
they're like, listen, man, none of those hit. And we'd
place those wagers based on information quote unquote insider information
that you gave.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
But if the insider information was accurate, it just didn't
play out your way. How you want your money back.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
He's the he's the they blame him. Those are reasonable people.
That's a that's a turbulent world. It sounds like I've
never gotten into gambling, man. I mean, I like casual
like some tonk you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Or talk.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Yeah, I mean I played tonk.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
That was tall? You know that was it?

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Get into? Uh? What is it? What?

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Poker? Never gotten a post? I mean I'll play black jack,
but I'm not a habitual I don't know.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Would you would you play it if it was white jack?
I don't know. Hell yeah, I don't know. I don't
know what you mean. I don't understand why. I can't
ask the question I just said.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
I don't know what he means by that. I don't
know what do you mean by that? What do you
mean by that? I don't know, And I don't understand why.
Why are the jacked black in card decks?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (22:03):
I mean I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Hey, Ray, right right, you're gonna put that up there.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yeah, I'm just saying, question, why are they not?

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Oh yeah, CROs and a cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio for that. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you here. So we are gonna have the
usuals coming up later on. We do have another edition
of in case you missed it. We've also got Quinn's wins,
you know, in honor of the NBA to go along
it's spread and weak Gate. We've also got another edition

(22:55):
of the Leftovers. All of it is yours here on
this three hour extra against it And by the way,
friendly reminder we mentioned this earlier. With all this fun
NBA talk, do not let us misrepresent what today is.
It's a football Friday. Come on, bar no, why not?

Speaker 8 (23:13):
No, say.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
He's feeling it? Yeah no, let get that.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
Going to do this So I'm going to do photo
what you said, I'm not going to do it. You
know I'm not going to do it. You thick tongue ass,
thick tongue ass. Your tongue is thick. Your thick tongue ass,
thick tongue ass, your tone, your.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Stick. All right, let's do it for Eddie let's do
it for Eddie.

Speaker 9 (23:50):
Your thick tongue ass is on Friday, Nick Tongue Friday,
Thick tongue shoot thick talk with my tongue.

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You can feel it right, So so coming up next,
we are going to get the party starting early with
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Speaker 1 (25:06):
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Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'm a winner. Listen up winning here's all illnesses, it
really does, I'm going to win. It's Quinn's wins, all right.
Four and four last week brings our season to nineteen
twenty five and two. Still blow five hundred working our
way back. Very streaky last week if you follow along.
So the early games all loses, but second half came

(26:31):
back for the five hundred finish. All right, let's kick
things off in Ames, Iowa. Undefeated BYU. They're heading to
take on an Iowa State team that's favored by two
and a half. This one looks fishy to me. Boa
is coming off that big robbery win over Utah last week.
Bear Bachmeyer kind of putting this team on his back.
He's been fantastic. But does the magic runout in Ames?

(26:54):
The line looks fishy to me. I'm laying the two
and a half in Iowa State. This one has classic
Big twelve written all over it. Iowa State ends up
spoiling an undefeated season for BYU. Laid the two and
a half. They win this game, and BYU now in
the Big twelve, going to a tail spin. Next up
in the Big Ten, playing for the Floyd of Rosedale.

(27:15):
Nothing better than a big golden heavy pig. Minnesota's last
win at Kinnick Stadium came in twenty twenty three, but
it took more than twenty years to accomplish that. There's
also that controversial Cooper Degene punt return. Was there a
fair catch signal or no in the last matchup in
that game? So this one, to me, it's just too
many points. I think there will be a lowest scoring

(27:36):
game between these two. Minnesota is getting eight and a half.
Last time I checked on DraftKings, I like Minnesota keeping
it close versus Iowa. Next up in Bloomington, where big
noon kickoff will be UCLA getting twenty five and a
half points at IU. Now, this number is huge for
a team that's been resurgent, a team that's won three

(27:58):
in a row, a team that's averaging thirty three points
per game under their intern head coach Tim Skipper and
outfense cordin enator Jerry Neuheisel, who's really unlocked this offense
in particular Niko Iamaliava. So look, I think UCLA is
a much better team than what we saw at the
beginning of the season, and I think they keep this
one within that number. It's just too many points. I

(28:18):
know Indiana is great at home, They're one of the
best teams in college football. This will be a tougher
matchup than the line indicates. Next up in the Big Ten,
Northwestern headed to Lincoln, Nebraska coming out that disappointing loss
on Friday night to Minnesota trying to rebound.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Now.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Meanwhile, one of the best stories outside of UCLA in
the Big Ten, Northwestern, they're in a four game winning
street that obviously includes sorry of our knocking off Penn State.
That's even when they had Drew Aller though fully healthy.
And so for all to talk about, you know, we
make about Nebraska and building their program. Who just got
drummed Northwestern or David Brown, who's done a hell of

(28:55):
a job, has really built back a program that obviously
was at a tough spot. Again, seven and a half
points too many for me. I'm gonna go ahead and
take the seven and a half in Northwestern here. I
think they keep it close. I think this Northwestern team
is better than people think. And I think Nebraska trying
to rebound at home. I'm just not sure how good
they are. Lastly, big matchup in the aa C, USF

(29:20):
headed to Memphis. Memphis dropped finally a game last week
to UAB. Incredible story by the way, for those who
don't know Chris Morrinson's son, the late Chris Morrinson, Alex
Mortenson has taken over for Trent Dilfer, who got fired
and in a very inspiring way ended up leading UAB

(29:40):
Alabama Birmingham to a win over undefeated Memphis. Pretty cool
deal this one, though, you know, tough matchup, different storyline here.
USF has been one of the better teams in the
group of five all season long. Alex Golisch has been phenomenal.
The offense can put up points in a hurry too.
And for Memphis, there's some concerned about Brendon Lewis, their quarterback.

(30:02):
He got hurt in that matchup versus UA B, didn't
finish the game or Sandy's day to day. If it's
not Lewis, it'll be freshman quarterback aj Hill. Based on
the line movement opened up at four and a half,
it's it's USF giving six on the road. I'm leading
with USF here. I think they're one of the better
teams the group of five that probably make the college
football playoff, and it also leads me to think the

(30:23):
freshman will start. So they are your picks.

Speaker 8 (30:28):
Twinns wins quarter.

Speaker 13 (30:30):
Well done, Lorena, Well thank you, Ray, Ray, thank you
to finished a couple of up is that right?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
A couple of updates you might be a fan of.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I'd check these at eleven thirty.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Last night, I know, but Minnesota is now getting nine
and a half. We'll take that, and USF is a
five and a half point favorite now, so you get
a half point there, bam, take that for data.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Well, USF was getting six last night at eleven thirty
pm when I checked these, so Eastern half a point back.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well you got a factor in what time did the
NBA games end? Those guys get on their phone and
start firing off bets on on the draft Kings, and
next thing you know, everything changes. So it's just not
gonna a lot of stuff going on there with that. So, uh,
and you're not going to go see Penn State this weekend?

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Bar No, I'm not going to go this weekend. What
about next weekend? Maybe there there.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
You're gonna let me know if you do, man, I will,
I'll let you go. I need to go, I need
to go.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
I mean, we'd invite Jonas to come out, put them
up at the graduate.

Speaker 13 (31:42):
But you know all, let's make it say that Jonas,
you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Let's I love the graduate. Let's go, let's make it happen.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
And even go to the game. After we did the
radio show, you.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Left because we had to catch a flight. Correct you
You set your flight for before the game. Problem, Yeah,
but you could have made sure you were there for
you could have.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
You could have LeVar is right, by the way, LaVar
I did a podcast with Stu Gotts who loves you,
by the way, and I may or may not have
told the story when you found out you had gout
and how we thought it was a tragic ankle injury
or foot injury, only to find out you just you
just had.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Gouta it was just just attacking me.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah. Well but but the way it was played up,
which leads back to that whole conversation about the graduating Columbus.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
You had that like walking scooter thing. I got it
after the show, Like, think about that. That has hit
me on the plane. I had to walk through the
airport and into the graduate with my ankle. I couldn't
put any pressure on my ankle.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Do you remember those saying they're like, oh, I think
I rolled it. I don't know what I did. I
feel like I did something. You were trying to figure
it out, and like, I'm like, man, if maf my
ankle or foot her that bad, I feel like i'd
remember like stepping off a curb or rolling it or something.
I mean again, you bro like that, But that was
the things. As we sat there listening to you complain

(33:13):
about it and then what you were doing leading up
to it, it became very apparent that it was gout.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
And I ain't got like I've been good ever since
pretty much.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Well, are you in the medication now? No? I just
you just changed your diet, Yeah, a little bit of
my diet. Yep. That's what he can't. He can't change
change the diet up. He just takes the medicine for you.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Really like, no, I want to rip by?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, He's like, I like why I like red meat?
And you know I'm gonna keep going.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
His pills on it. I'm scooting around like the stadium and.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
It was so funny. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
I hate to last, but I'll tell you what I thought.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
It was a serious injury.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
My pride, Nope, my pride will not allow me to
not be do Brad Like when I did big Noon,
I stood up, did I did everything when when the
game came, I walked into the to the game.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Now that we knew it was gout. I mean, it
wasn't that big of a deal, Like you've played through
tougher stuff.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
No, no, no, let me tell you something.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
That type of pain you feel when you had one
of those those deals, that's something that's legit pain.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
LaVar Setter is right next to Gettysburg. What what he said?
Like the injuries were that bad? Think about saw his
leg off?

Speaker 6 (34:33):
You get back out there, a Jodis I just totally
killed the bit.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
The bit is it's over now.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
By the way, why number nine? In high school?

Speaker 6 (34:44):
My brother wore nine, okay, my older brother, My older
brother wore nine, and so I wore nine and originally
I won it nine in college. Yeah, he's my one
of my heroes.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Bro. You should have played running back. You're a really
good lineback. Crom asleep, But I was pretty good. I
don't know those highlights you showed.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
I mean that's what they tried to play me at
at tailbaths. I'm not doing it, not doing that.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Why.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
I just I just felt like offense.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Was not my personality, like long term, like what suited
my personality was being like a linebacker. Like they've ben
tried to play me at safety, like I went, I
went to school, they put me at tailback in safety,
you know, and I was like, I didn't come. You
guys recruited me as a linebacker. I'm playing linebacker. They

(35:36):
put me at safety, they put me at tailback, and
I did well. I just didn't want to be a tailback.
I don't I don't want somebody's play call to dictate
my fun in the game. Like at linebacker, like defensive end, linebacker,
those are the two positions I would say, and maybe safety,
but safety kind of sort of kind of not you're

(35:56):
far away. I get action every single play at linebacker
or defensive it every single play, even if the ball
goes away, and like make defensive tackle. But I went
and built for that, so I chose defense man and
he needed to do defense. That was just my personality. Trick,
but I definitely, I mean I was the second. There

(36:18):
was only two. I think there's three now, but there
had only there had never been anyone at Quada that
had went for over four thousand yards career rushing. Me
and a dude named Matt Gavis goat Gavirish went over
four thousand in the same year. So now and I
played both ways, so he was just a tailback.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I missed a game on Quinn's wins. Uh oh, come on,
go back? Yeah clean, apologies real quick. One more line,
Kansas State getting three and a half in Lawrence. Do
you guys know the last time Kansas beat Kansas State
win two thousand and eight. Really, it's a really long

(37:01):
time in a wild right for the Sunflower showdown.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah, that's a long time.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Jesus Mark man Gino is the coach. And so again,
you know, historical numbers like that, they don't matter that much.
I will say this like Chris Climbing and his staff
like they just they have Kansas number. So I'm gonna
go ahead and take the three and a half points.

Speaker 8 (37:27):
Twins when Brown too.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Thanks Lorna.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
By the way, can I give a shout out uh
to Emily she listens to the show loyal listener, she
let me know that on the podcast you did, Brady,
that they made mention of LeVar and you doing the
radio show together, but no mention of me. So I
just want to shout out to me.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
But I did mention your name if Emily was actually
listening to the which I'm not sure when I got
put out there. I did mention just as part of it.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Well, I appreciate it, all right, So Emily stopped trying
to start, you know.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
But that'll be ten dollars Jon's because if you brought
that onto the air, all right, Emily checks.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Ahead.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah. I don't know who this Emily woman is, but
I will say this, I did mention you on that
you're a part of it.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I appreciate it, you know. I don't know why she's
trying to start fights here on the show. By the way,
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Speaker 5 (39:15):
All right, So big.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
News, big unveiling possibly coming up about ten minutes from now,
but right now it's time for this.

Speaker 11 (39:23):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to
bring you In case you missed it.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
the one and only. Yeah, dude, Ryan Bersching or Burst.
What's happening?

Speaker 14 (39:38):
Oh, good morning, guys. Would you like to hear what
Tim donnahe thinks of this latest NBA gambling scandal?

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, sure, why not. He's the godfather of this whole thing.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
That's right, Tim donnae.

Speaker 14 (39:50):
You appeared on CUOMO on News Nation last night, and
here's what he had to say.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
I think this is just a tip of the iceberg,
like you said earlier, and I think you're gonna see
maybe a more of a bigger scandal coming out of
the college level because you have these young athletes that
aren't going to make it to the next level and
somebody who's going to offer them money to maybe fix
a game and only win by twelve rather than fifteen.
And they're going to take that money because they're going

(40:15):
to need a way to support their family. So I
think it's just a tip of the iceberg in many
different ways.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Oh man, that's the referee, right, your former referee.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, what a what a wonderful tale, what a wonderful story.
Although basketball is the easiest if you're going to pull
something like this off. Basketball is the easiest because there's
so many opportunities, Like.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
You think, so well, if you just a number of games.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Or well, just like the prop bets, like if you
just tell somebody, hey, man, I need you to hit
under six and a half rebounds like that, that's really
easy to just damn it went out of bounds or
like just and then you go, there's clips of Terry
Roseier in that game in March that he's that he
was investigated on that everybody flagged immediately and you can
show him him and it's so obvious that he's giving

(41:03):
the ball away. But I think there's so many NBA
games where it looks like guys are half assing it
that people just are like, oh, another one of these games.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Again, what a great product. It's it's so hard to
tell what great effort looks like that they just get
away with.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
This stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Like that guy's just to try hard. No, he's just
the only guy that gambling on games, like he's the
one you trust. She's yeah, well fired up, everybody.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
I'm not touching this one.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
Why not be because my tongue isn't thick enough
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