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October 13, 2025 40 mins

On a Football Monday Recap, the guys get into Penn State firing head coach James Franklin after a stunning Northwestern loss over the weekend, Baker Mayfield’s MVP Odds after an impressive win over the 49ers + the Jets are still struggling ICYMI. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. Coming up on this Monday edition, It's a
football recap Monday, and we must discuss the situation in
State College. James Franklin is out and what went down,
what went wrong, and who could be looming as a
potential replacement. We're also going to have a conversation about

(00:22):
violence on Sunday night football potential bullying as well too.
All of a sudden, the name we threw out there
is climbing the MBP Odds charts. Plus we're going to
hear from one head coach who doesn't want to hear
anything about a quarterback switch even though it was an
awful performance. On Sunday, we're going to talk about another
team that all of a sudden is calling players only

(00:43):
meetings and their quarterbacks calling out guys who don't attend.
Plus Pe Prisco's going to stop by. We've got our
fsrir and the leftovers. It's all yours coming up next here.
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Speaker 1 (01:48):
And good morning to everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Good morning, Hi, yep, yep, hey var Hi guys, Somber Buddy,
Somber Morning. Fixed Emotions. You know you want to see
excitement for your program. You want to see your program
have success. And everybody knows it's out there now, it's
it's in the news, it's made its rounds, everybody's talking

(02:14):
about it. You know, coach Franklin was let go. I
get it, I get I get it's a big conversation.
I mean, I'll tell you what else is big? That
forty nine million he's getting to walk away second biggest
buy out in college football history next to Jimbo. How
about that? So what is y'all? What are y'all's take

(02:37):
on it? Give me y'all's opinion on it?

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Oh? All right?

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Yeah, I mean I think you know how I feel,
because I got pretty fired up after the loss to UCLA,
like I was in the Oregon game. I mean, what's
wild about that is they're up a touchdown in overtime.
I mean, think about how fast college football moves. We're

(03:02):
literally talking like fifteen sixteen days ago, Penn State was
up a touchdown and overtime versus Oregon. They win that game,
They maybe I don't know, number one in the country,
maybe they're still sitting at two or three. But how
different the last sixteen days have gone. And so I

(03:24):
kind of look back at just like I was fired
up obviously because I felt like this program, for whatever reason,
has hit a ceiling. With James Franklin, there's just too
much talent there They've invested heavily pack Kraft athletic director,
and I know you know LeVar, but I'm not sure
listeners understand they have put a ton of money into everything,

(03:47):
everything like nil and the roster retention, roster construction.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Obviously Jim Knowles.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Like prying away, you know, one of the best defensive
coordinators from Ohio State, to them hiring Andy Kodnicki a
couple of years ago as one of the bright offensive
minds and paying them handsomely, and it just has not come.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Together and worked.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
But I think what flies under the radar when we
talk about how fast college football can change is even
what's like happened to UCLA. They've won the last two weeks.
They just drum Michigan State in East Lansing. You know,
a change a head coach, a changeing coordinator, and all
of a sudden, sudden, maybe Jerry news new heisal was
like the new young genius because that play team is

(04:30):
playing entirely different than it did the first half the season.
And you look at Northwestern and you look what David
Brown has built. And I'm not trying to make an
excuse for Penn State. I'm not, but I also think
if you go back, because I was there for Northwestern Oregon,
it was I mean Oregon for the most part controlled
that game, but you saw flaws, Like you saw the

(04:53):
physicality of Northwestern, you saw them be able to run
the football against them. Kind of like all right, like
if there's another team that's got a little you know,
more complete team, they might be able to attack organ
and do some stuff like Indiana did this past week.
So I just I think it's wild to think about
how we can talk about a team or look at
a team and a coach and like fifteen sixteen days later,

(05:17):
he's fired, I mean national championship, and one end of
the mouth, the next.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
One we're saying he's fired.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
And then meanwhile, like two other teams who've gotten a
lot better are are kind of like flying under the radar,
and they don't get us quite as much credit because
we looking at more as a collapse as opposed to
maybe this is just the parody of college football, Like
maybe this is just the world we're going to live
in now where it's closer to the NFL. Where I
watched the Carolina Panthers beat the Cowboys yesterday. I go, man,

(05:45):
that was weird, But I guess the Panthers are getting better,
and I guess the Cowboys, who are probably a good team,
maybe even a playoff team, they can have these these
moments from time to time. Maybe that's college football.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
My thought was.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
LeVar was right.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think that you kind of alluded to this after
the Oregon game, but you sensed something on the sideline
the very next game against UCLA, and I think you
knew that the end was near. That's what I think,
because when we talked about, hey, you know, and you

(06:23):
were obviously distraught about what happened with Oregon and we
were telling y'all, Ucla is going to but there were reservations.
You were hesitant there. I think maybe there was a
sense of just the despair after the Oregon loss, but
then being at the Rose Bowl amongst a.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
Different that was a different feeling after that game.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, amongst like the fifteen sixteen people that were there.
You then came on the air and we're talking about
like when we were mentioning Northwestern, like, I don't know, man,
and I think you sensed from the sideline maybe from
the players there, this is head and bad and it's
heading bad in a hurry, and that's I think that's

(07:02):
the sad part of it all. I mean, ultimately, you
got to understand that this is a business and it's
a production business, and if you don't produce, depending on
how you your lack of production looks will ultimately probably
serve as to how the situation is handled and at

(07:24):
what point in time you're at not producing. You know,
you're in year what is twelve? I believe he's in
year twelve, eleven or twelve. I want to say it's
I think it's twelve. He was not a pac Craft higher,
so there's that part of it. But he has had

(07:46):
such a successful run and such a successful tenure as
the head coach of Penn State. You know, I gave
a shout out to coach on on social yesterday and
basically just saying, look, people may forget what James Franklin
took over, and he took over a program that was

(08:08):
in shambles. I mean, we didn't get the death penalty,
but the way we self imposed on ourselves, it might
as well have been a death penalty. And we're still
trying to figure out things and climb out of what
took place.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know, from that time still trying to figure it out.
James Franklin comes in, and he pumped life back into
that program where I don't know too many coaches that
would have been able to come in take on the

(08:46):
challenges that he had to take on in order to
have any level of success, let alone him ending up
winning a Big Ten championship, him ending up making it
into the College Football Playoff, him ending up being one
game away from and some would say one play away

(09:07):
a couple plays away from possibly being in the national
Championship game. I think all of those things are things
that you got to look at Coach Franklin, and whether
you hated him or you loved him as a Penn
State fan, I think the one thing that either you
have to you know, kind of acknowledge or one of

(09:32):
the things you have to take into consideration even if
you didn't like him as a coach, is that he
did do an excellent job of recruiting. He did do
an excellent job of building our program when it needed rebuilt,
and I think a lot of people tend to forget that. Now, granted,
you're so far removed from the beginning that at this

(09:55):
point in time you have to show that you have.
You know, this team going in the right now direction.
And as Q mentioned, you know the investment, like said
you needed a defense coordinator when when Tom Allen, you know,
opted out and rolled out. You know, you bring in
the highest paid defense coordinator and Jim Knowles, who everybody

(10:16):
says is the best in the business and he has
been everything but that for this team. You bring in receivers.
We said we were lacking receiver debt, we were lacking
receiver talent, which I didn't believe that. I thought some
of the guys that ended up leaving in the portal,
I thought they were pretty good ball players. But that

(10:38):
was nonetheless something that was cited, and they went out
and got more receivers and what we're considered to be
playmaking receivers. I mean, Penya was a big time player
for Syracuse last year. Kyron Hudson was a big time
player for USC last year. So go out and you

(11:01):
feel those positions when you ask for when you start
asking for things and you're saying, these are the only
things we need along with all of the guys that
are coming back to have a complete team, and this
is this is where you're at at this point, in
the season. I think it is safe to say losing
three in a row. The way it looked after the

(11:23):
UCLA game, it was like this could be the end.
Then you go and you lose a home game to Northwestern.
No playoffs, obviously the playoff pitcher, that window is closed
for this season. So I feel like with Pat Krabb
being as aggressive as he is as our ad, I
think it was a decision that he made and felt

(11:45):
it was proper based upon the current given, you know,
set of circumstances that the team finds themselves in right now.
They it just did not look like coach was himself
after the UCLA game. Didn't seem like he was himself
all the way for the Northwestern game. The players follow suit.

(12:05):
They don't seem they just do not seem to be believers.
It just doesn't seem like it's a team of believers
at this point. So he was shook.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Two.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh yeah, I believe, so respect all due respect, I believe.
I believe it was starting to get the coach too.
And listen, when you have a lot of change at
your coordinators and your positions, like you know, Jay One
went to Notre Dame this past year. You continue to
lose really really fine coaches that insulate you and make

(12:41):
things better for you as a coach, Like you got
to think about how important your supporting cast of coaches
are because that's the communication line, that the lifeline that
keeps you connected to your players and to the pulse
of what everybody is feeling. And I think if you
continue to change them over and over and over and

(13:02):
over again, eventually you just have guys who are working
for you. You kind of lose that family bond. You know,
you've been through seasons and seasons and seasons together. There
are very few guys that have stayed. Terry Smith, the
guy who's taken over, he's not only a Penn Stater,
but he has been there with James, you know, from
the start. So but there's very few of those guys left.

(13:23):
So it's a tough situation. And I feel bad sentimentally
speaking for for coach Franklin. But at the same time,
it's a business and and Pat Craft is aggressive and
wanting to be a sports power and football is at
the top of the list of being a sports power
at Penn State. And he's going to do what he's

(13:45):
you know, tasks to do. And he's going to make
the decisions that he feels is going to best put
put Penn State athletics, put Penn State football in the
best situation. So while it's tough, you know, tough pill
to swallow, because that's my guy, really really full with
coach Franklyn, but you know, at the same time, it's
a business, you know, all right.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Who's next?

Speaker 6 (14:04):
All right?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I've seen a list of candidate.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
I saw a trend Union as the head coach. Yeah,
head coach, I saw, you know. And then by the way,
I'm not laughing about that for any of the reason
other than I saw a post that said, now that
Penn State pulled the trigger on firing James Franklin with
this big of a buyout, it will open up the

(14:29):
floodgates for other schools to say, Okay, that's acceptable, we'll
do it too. And I've tried to explain to people,
like most schools will finance this because to LaVar's point,
they understand that when you bring in this sense of
hope and optimism, it will completely transform you know, everything

(14:50):
and the energy around that that university and being able
to help again provide hope again and optimism again for
ticket sales and everything else that you're looking to drive revenue,
which is what these schools are looking to do at
this point.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
It's one of the.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Reasons why they keep talking to different pension funds and
trying to bring in private equity to bring in an
infusion of capital so they don't have to worry about,
you know, some of the concerns they have about, well,
should we fire our coach because if we do well,
that fifty million dollars that we're buying them out, it
could be spent on our roster, it could be spent
on other things for athletics to help keep you know,

(15:24):
the next coach competitive. Now that's always a big concern,
but in this case, you know, I think they looked
at it and said, just it's more important to start
this process now and move forward and we'll figure out
financially how to get it done. But really, like again,
looking at professional sports franchises because they deal with this
all the time. You know, in the NFL moves on

(15:46):
from coaches after about two years sometimes and the whole
point is like, well, we got a top draft pick,
we got a new head coach, Come buy, come come
watch our team.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
You know, come back to the stands. We're different. It's
not like two years ago, it's not like last year.
That's what they preach, and it's kind.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Of hitting college football a bit too with how they
move about doing all this. But I do think you'll
see a lot more start to come along as well,
where schools are going to want to try to find
their guy and prepare themselves for that transfer portal window,
uh come January, the new window they've created, and then

(16:24):
obviously early signing period in December and be able to
get recruiting going and everything else. I think that's what
schools have kind of settled on now, is the timing
of it is don't wait, because if you wait now,
you're gonna get caught in trying to figure out who
your guy is while trying to retain your roster while
trying to recruit a new roster.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
And it's just too hard to do.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
There's a lot of moving parts. A lot of guys
de committed, like a ton of guys are de committing.
So if you like to your point, if you're gonna,
if you're going to start this process and you have
a conviction to go in a different dey direction, then
you might as well do it, because you're going to
have to figure out how you're going to maintain your roster,

(17:08):
how you're going to continue to be successful in the
recruiting game. You cannot. I can't see you having any
success with major, major recruits if you can't even really
plan on using the portal, if you don't.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
Have a coach, you got to have a coach.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
So so I guess I look at it, and I
don't know the process of it all I'm about to learn.
But it'll be interesting to see how it all plays
out based upon the given scenarios of what's taking place.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Signetti coming to town, yeah, not Rule coming to town.
It'd be an opportunity for the fan base there to
try and sell the program on both those guys when
they come to town. Probably a lot of signage out there,
you know, I would love to have you, especially Matt Ruhle,
a former teammate of yours. I mean, there's a there's

(18:12):
some options out there. I saw Manny Diaz his name
be mentioned. Lane Kiffen as well too. Some people have
thrown that out. I think it was Sports Illustrated also
mentioned Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I don't think that's that.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
That's likely, but it's an attractive gig. It's a big
time gig.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I mean, I'd like to believe, so I like to believe. So,
I mean, it's it's proven. And again, like I said,
it was not all bad. I mean, for what it's worth,
coaching is coaching. If you're lucky, you I mean, I
mean when I say lucky, lucky, lucky, you coach your
entire career at one place. If you're super super super

(18:55):
lucky beyond belief, you you coach for a long time,
a long tenure, and you don't get fired. But I
think we all know that's one of the most turbulent
job categories that you could ever go in. You know,
I would never want to be in that situation, at
least right now. I would never want to be in

(19:16):
a situation where like like Matt, you brought up Matt rule, Like, Okay,
Matt coaches, he's been fired, he comes to Penn State,
there's a strong possibility, even if he wins a lot,
even if he goes to a national championship game, even
if he wins a national championship game, there's going to

(19:37):
come a moment in time where there's not enough production
and the people that once chaired for him as a
player and chair for him as a coach, and he
won national titles and this, that and the other, they're
going to be booing them.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Are you going to be part of the hiring process,
because if so, let us know some intel us again.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know, you know, I'll talk to you offline. I've
I've already talked to Q offline. I'll talk to you
guys offline. But you know, I'm not going to get
into like the details of what my involvement is. You know,
obviously I love my university. I invest a lot in
my university and have been a part of building solutions

(20:18):
and continuing to move move our program and our community forward.
So you know, there are certain parts of conversations I
will not be able to partake in as it applies
to this process.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
So just the reality of it, now.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Are you I have to ask this question? I can't.
I can't honestly think of another situation that.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Was kind of a bigger I just call it out,
was a bigger flop. Yeah, it's a flop.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Like like I.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Felt like the hype around Penn State this year was
very similar to like what Michigan did with their guys
to come back and try to take a shot at
and running a national championship. What Ohio State did, and
it was like Penn State was in that category. Like again,
I don't know that people fully understand the investment that

(21:16):
they made in every capacity into this team, Like this
is probably one of the bigger and I look and
I know Texas who've got a good win versus Oklahoma
this weekend, they haven't been as good as we thought
this season. Clemson's in that category two. But for Penn State,
I mean, the question was like if not now, then
when before the season because of all the talent, They've

(21:40):
got a returning quarterback, one of the best defensive minds
they got in the off season, right, Like there again,
an offensive coordinator that's viewed very well in the college
football community, and Andy Kolniki.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
I just.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Pretty wild, man.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
It's it's pretty wild when you really think back to
how the season started and like where we're at or
not that deep into the season.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's the crazy part of it, right, The crazy part
of it is that we're not that deep into the
season and yet we know the season is over.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
The season's over, I mean and also the Drew Aller news.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
And I mean like literally like you ended the game
with a season ending injury, like injury to insult. Then
your backup comes in and gets his spirit and his
soul smoked.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
Knock the hell out of him. He lose the game.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
He got smoked.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I mean, this was like supposed to be a oh
get Drew Hour or out get Drew Alerer out. All right,
that's what you want, that's what we That was the
big moment. That was the big reveal. I don't think so.
I don't think so. Yeah it was, you know, yes

(23:00):
it is, of uh, it is. It has to be
the biggest flop ever just because of the way you.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Fell into the u c l A game.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I think the u c l A loss made this
put that put it in the category of biggest flop.
I mean, if we're just being honest, Yeah, you moved
to an unranked team in your top ten team in
this day and age, Like you said, with the investment,
there's no way around that.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
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(26:25):
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Speaker 1 (27:32):
I was, yeah, let's just run. I was just good man,
Let's just uh, let's run with it, man.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
I mean, I mean, they're they're doing well. But hey, listen,
Baker Mayfield. I mean that play was insane that he
made yesterday.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Scramble, Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Was pretty insane. You you get concerned about if if
something bad could possibly happen, but you get to the
point of where you think that if they get hit
something bad is going to happen. I start, like you start,
you start to remember when they get hit, they actually
don't break, you.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Like it's like when a baby rolls over and you know,
hit something or falls, It's like wait, hold on, Like
that baby can take a hit better than you can.
Like they're just built to be able to take a hit.
Like like you realize that. And it's like every once
in a while you'll see a quarterback, like when Patrick
Mahomes got hit last night, right he runs, he stayed up,

(28:34):
you know, dude bounces off of him. The next dude
hits him. Then the next dude hits him, aid and
hits him. Everybody's hitting him and you're like, oh, oh, oh,
my gosh, oh they hit him. And it's like immediately
you you're now trained. We've been classically conditioned to think
that if a quarterback gets hurt, they're just instantly going

(28:54):
to get hurt.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
And they actually are grown ass men that can take
a hit.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
There's also from the Tampa side, Mechic Buka got hurt
hamstring issue. Obviously, Mike Evans has been out, Bucky Irving's
been so they're banged up and he's still dealing and
that touchdown to Tess Johnson and then over on their
heads looks explosive.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
He like just just a whole lot of life in
his legs.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
You got to tell me what gives with the Niners
lack of luck with their injuries is now Fred Warner's
out with a nasty ankle injury that he suffered.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
I blame Gavins personally, Tang you know.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
What, that's fair? Can we roll with that? Run with
that on social media?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'll go with that.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
There definitely have been some real strong campaigns on television.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Gotta Vote.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, they definitely are pushing in certain initiatives to more
than others.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, like mail and your stuff. Really really aggressive.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
About that out here. For some reason. I don't know
why that is.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't like the Niners can't catch a break man
like they can. Like, no, they're catching breaks. Yeah, that's wrong,
wrong word there to use. I just I don't understand.
It's always injuries the past couple of years, always with
the Niners, whether it's Christian McCaffrey or went down, whether
it was George Kittle went down, Brandon Ayuk Brock perty

(30:25):
got hurt, Mac Jones has stepped in and done well.
Yesterday he wasn't as good because he was kind of
scrambling around for his life a little bit. But and
then now you got Fred Warner. It just seems like
that team and Kyle Shanahan just cannot feel a full
roster and a full team to be able to do
what they want to do. So I don't know if

(30:47):
there's something in the competitive that's the crazy thing.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Like I feel bad. I'm not going to pole on
them for losing or not being as you know, better
than what their record is right now. They I mean,
they have been competitive through that, through all of the injuries,
they have still maintained a high level of being competitive.

(31:15):
And so, you know, I don't know how. I don't
really know how to judge them right now. I don't
know how to look at the forty nine ers. I
thought they were fool's gold. I thought they've hit their ceiling.
I thought that their opportunity to make a run for
the Super Bowl has come to an And I still
would feel that way even if they were fully healthy.

(31:36):
Yet they've been competitive, and I don't know, just like
I didn't think that the Steelers would be competitive, and
they are looking like they could be the ones that
come out of the North and are clearly, you know,
the representatives of that division as usual. But I just
didn't see that for the forty nine ers and now

(31:57):
because of all of the injuries, and they're so competitive
through the injuries. It makes you wonder how good they
could have been if they were fully healthy. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
I like Kyle Shanahan's is getting frustrated too, Like watching
him walk off the field after yesterday's game, He's just like, dude,
what do I have to do? You know, in all seriousness,
like he's he's a really good coach. He's been able
to help give his team every opportunity, and it's just
luck is not on their side.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
It's crazy. I mean that's the only way. I'm not
sure you can read more in.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
The Injury Bug than that, but it is wild to
think about everything they've gone through and sustain and had
to deal with.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's just it's just unfortunate. I don't know, I really
don't know how else you describe it.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, and it's because there was a window there where
they went to a couple of a couple of super
Bowls and then I'll not even mention the Nick Bosa
injury as well too, like I forgot that one. Also,
like all of their best it's not just like, hey,
you know, got a couple of guys who you know,
maybe I Buka's got a hamstring injury and he's out
for four to six weeks whatever, like these are like
their best players all gone.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
It doesn't I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
And yeah, he does seem like he's kind of worn out,
like it's it's completely worn thin and he's just scrambling
looking for answers. You know, they've got the Falcons, they've
got the Texans and the Giants after that. It just
but that's why going into the year, we couldn't figure
out all right, so why are they favored to win
that division? With with how the Rams look and what

(33:29):
the Rams are doing, and it feels like the Rams
are going to make a run. And then you looked
at the schedule and said, okay, well it's pretty favorable
and maybe they catch a couple of breaks down the stretch.
But I just I'm with LeVar. I think the window
is probably closed, and I think this really may have
been the last year for them with this full compliment

(33:51):
to go out and make some noise and it just
seems like, you know, just not in the car.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Okay, But why is that? It's because they had to
signed Brock Party to the deal they signed him to.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and that's.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
The reality of it, Like we're talking about this window
and part because of the money they spent on Party.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
And I'll just go ahead and say it.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
And obviously he's not in there now playing, but mac
Jones has done a really good job. I think a
lot of people would say, like, all right, Like how
much better would have brock Purty done in these circumstances.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
And that's the first loss mac Jones taken so far
this year as their starter in San fran But the
truth is they can't keep it all together. It will still
be hard to and Party's their quarterback. And I think
moving forward, when you look at this roster and as
they lose some pieces, you're kind of like, all right,

(34:43):
I don't really I'm not really betting on them to
be able to get it done and do it. Like
if you stack up Party versus the other quarterbacks you're
willing to bet on. I'm not sure how favorable he
stacks up. It's now San Francisco fans will take that
as an insult.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
It's just it's just the reality of it.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Like he's not in the same category as Josh Allen
and Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow if he's healthy, or
Aaron Rodgers now, like he's just not.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
It is what it is.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
He's played really well in Necesstem, he's played really well
for San Francisco, but he's a quarterback who needs more
help out around him. And there's nothing there's nothing wrong
with saying that, Like that's how this roster was constructed,
that's how he's had success on this team. I just
I don't foresee them being able to get to that
pinnacle and win it if they're gonna start, you know,

(35:34):
dismantling some of this and bringing in younger, younger pieces
and rebuilding to some degree. And am am I on
an island in that feeling.

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Speaker 1 (36:19):
Huh he's very pale.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Oh yeah, skin condition.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
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Speaker 1 (36:36):
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Speaker 2 (36:43):
We are going to get into, uh the fisticuffs and
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Yes you heard that correct, That'll be yours here top
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Speaker 7 (37:17):
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Speaker 1 (37:32):
What's up, guys, good brning, Hi.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Thanks Abree?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Hey, what up?

Speaker 9 (37:36):
So during the London game yesterday morning, obviously the Jets
lost to the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
They're tea, Yes, they lost.

Speaker 9 (37:44):
So there is some controversy because Justin Fields went like
for nine for forty five yards. It was sacked nine times.
So Aaron Glenn was asked if he would consider sitting
Justin Fields and this was the response, Justice numbers.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
You're not going to game?

Speaker 9 (38:00):
No?

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Is he going to be your quarterback next week? Or
we come on, man, what kind of question is that.

Speaker 8 (38:06):
Game?

Speaker 6 (38:07):
There's a number of guys that you know, I mean, sometimes.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
It's this league is like this and there are guys
that have bad games. That doesn't mean you just bench them.
Come on, you know better than that.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
I mean, I mean, every once in a while, that
is a valid statement. Every once in a while, I don't.
I don't know how bad I don't. I mean, I
don't know that I wouldn't kick the tires around on
is there a better option than Justin Fields. I think
we've seen what Justin Fields is as a pro quarterback,

(38:37):
So I don't know that I would get offended over that.
But I will say I think it's cool that he's
standing in there with his starter.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah. I mean, look, he hasn't thrown a pick yet.
He's got that going for.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
The protection hasn't been great, although I would say that
I feel like heals on the ball forever. It feels
like sometimes so it's not helping the situation. And look,
they've got talent there, it's just you got to coordinator
two's new, he's I mean, the whole thing is just

(39:11):
it feels like it's a bit of a mess. Like
if you're a Jets fan, I don't know, would you
take Aaron Rodgers and this, Like like are the Jets
rethinking the meeting where Aaron Glenn spent I don't know,
five minutes in the meeting before telling them that they're
going in a different direction, Like.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Maybe you want to rethink that decision back again.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
I mean Also, if you're the NFL and you want
to get London interested in the NFL, maybe don't send
the Jets again. That might be uh in the eighty
two yards on offense they put together.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
I've actually got a conspiracy theory really on what the
NFL is doing overseas, and I just want you guys
to know, and I want the people listening to know.
It is a lie. It is a blatant lie. Oh
we'll talk about it. We're not have time for now.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
It's like, oh, let's do it.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
Roberts.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
That was one hell of a take you to the
next hour tease. If I've ever heard one good job
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