June 17, 2024 • 39 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas and LaVar recap their Father’s Day weekend. Tom Brady talks about QB play going backwards in the NFL. Plus, more drama in KC, Belichick’s 24-year GF and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Monday edition. Of course, we're going to talk about
Father's Day, the weekend that was. We are going to
discuss Levar's trip to Knoxville. Could we be seeing an
Arrington in the sec We'll get all that for you.
We're also going to talk about Bryson Deshambo doing it
for meatheads at the US Open. We will hear from
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Tom Brady and his honest criticism of quarterback play and
what it means for his broadcasting future. Cheers to Bill
Belichick that a way Bill wait to bounce back from
a rough year for coach Belichick. We will get into
the details on that as well too. We'll have a
conversation about the WNBA, probably not one that anybody's gonna like.
We're also going to talk about other news and notes
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from around the NFL. Charles Barkley walking away from NBA
on TNT coverage, say it it's so Kyrie irving with
some brutal honesty. And we've got an FSRIR and you
in of you out, it's all yours coming up next
here two pros and a cup of Joe on a Monday,
Fox Sports Radio.
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Man I, miss Friday, boom boom boom poom, not Coop,
not Eddie, not Lorena, nobody. We just opened up and
got straight to it. And then it's back and now
they're in the other studio. Coop's doing like a pseudo
sprinkler chair, Loraina is dancing, Eddie's dancing.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
But it is two pros and a cup of joe.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with
you here. No, Brady Quinn suspended. He has been suspended.
What he's been suspended for we haven't come up with
anything yet, but he suspended. He will not be here
for this show, and if he keeps it up, he's
not gonna be here for tomorrow's show or Wednesday. I mean,
that's the way we handle stuff around here. But we
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will we will explain all that fun stuff for you
coming up.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
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Speaker 1 (02:57):
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Speaker 5 (03:15):
Sticks?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh it was.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Good, man, It's really good. I spent most of it traveling,
but you know it was it was good. It was
definitely good.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
You were in Tennessee, right.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was in Knoxville, Tennessee. Go Orange.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Oh, Yeah, how was it? Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It was really good man.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You know I never took any visits when when I
was a when I was a player, you know. So
I took one official visit when I was in high
school that was the Penn State, and I committed.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And so while I love my school and I loved.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Where I went and loved everything about it, my community,
everybody that associated with it still never had the experience
of seeing what it was like to be with like
another school, to be around another school. And it's almost
like dating, right, It's like they say, you know, I mean,
this is so far from what today's realities are, I
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guess in many cases, but maybe it's still the same
for some they say you shouldn't be with a person
until you get married, and kind of sort of like,
you know, the whole idea that is, it's like if
you don't know what else, you know, anything else is.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Like, you know, you should be good.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You know, like you know me, I know you, this
is what we know and good, like this is good
because that's it. Well, that's kind of how recruiting was
for me. My visit was to the school that I
went to. I had already committed before I even took
my official visit.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Jonas, So you saved yourself for a Penn State.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I saved myself for Penn State. But you know what,
Penn State didn't save themselves for me. Now I'm thinking
about it because they had got plenty of commitments from
players before. But anyway to think about it that that
my son has been expected to be a Penn State
Ninny Lyon, and you know, a lot of a lot
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of it has you know, a lot of you know,
colleges maybe stayed away from really recruiting them pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Because they had thought he had already committed.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
But you know, he he has kept his options open
and there have been some really really qualified schools that
have have put their their best foot forward. And this
weekend was Tennessee and it was It was not a
disappointment my guy.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
It's a different levels.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
They not only are the SEC but they are really
really going in the right direction. They really are hypel Is.
He's a man's man. Really liked him. I enjoyed his company,
his his coaching staff really really uh knowledgeable coaching staff.
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Tim Banks, you know, came from Penn State actually and
is the defensive coordinator there, so he you know, he's
coached guys like you know you may know the names
Michael Parson and Jesse Loketta. The name a couple of names. Yeah, so, uh,
they're they're pretty. Uh, you know, they're pretty The guy
(06:26):
that would be coaching man and former former player in
the in the NFL, knows what knows what the NFL
was like, knows what what college success is like. Very
very uh travel you know, been in the been in
the game for I think you know, it's been close
to thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I think it is. So it's uh, man, I think it's.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
It's it's a school that we're seriously considering.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
When does he When does he make his call? When
does he make this?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, so he's got Penn State this week, so I
won't be with you guys at the end of the week.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, you know, family first, man. I mean, I'm sorry,
you know, I I gotta do what I got too.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But but yeah, I mean we'll leave Thursday to go
to Penn State. So he's pretty much gotten it narrowed
down to, you know, what his final decision will be
made based off of. He took three official visits, one
to u c. L A, now to Tennessee, and then
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next up is Penn State. So we'll see, We'll see
how it goes out Penn State. It's interesting that Penn
State was the last scheduled. And by the way, these
are job interviews with parents jonas, like extensive three day,
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four day job interviews. And I know everybody thinks it's
it's an interview of the school to the kid, but
it really the way it felt, it was a job
interview for the kid with the family being there.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, they got to get make sure you guys are
comfortable with where he goes. He's gonna spend the next
three four years of his life. I mean, they've gotta
gotta warm you guys up to the idea of him,
you know, going all the way across country I would imagine.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And yeah, it's but it's just the process is kind
of it's actually like kind of lightweight kind of grueling.
I wouldn't say overly grueling, but definitely touches the level
of a super long process. You have meetings all day,
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you have presentations all day, you have things you have
to do medically, you have things you have to do physically.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You I mean, you have.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Meeting after meeting, after meeting, after meeting, and then you
eat food is good, get good food, get a little
bit of rest time. Then you have an evening event
that takes place that's that's definitely not work intensive. But
the morning, like the morning into early noon, like maybe
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like one or two wish something like that. You're you're like,
you're working, You're your job interviewing. It's like a it's
a job interview.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It must like I have never been wanted by anybody
or anything. And your son's got Tennessee, Penn State, and
UCLA that all want him to come play ball. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Well it's more than that, but he's yeah, he's kind
of narrowed it down. But I mean, yeah, I guess
in essence what you're saying, he is wanted. It is
cool to be wanted. I mean there is there's a
lot that comes with it. You know, there's a lot
that comes with being wanted, a lot of responsibility to
saying that much as much is given, much is required
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is a very very true state. It's it's not it's
not the most it's not like this relaxing thing where
you go and this that I mean, they took them
to the water, you know, they went out on the
boat went on the water. We had we had breakfast
on the water. It was that was nice, but it
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was it's not what you expected. Like my official visit
was go up there, watch a game, hang out with
one of the players. They introduce you to people, hint, hint,
you have a good time, and then your visit's over.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You know. That's what I remember it being people and.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Bang bang bang bang.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Cannons, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And then you figure out what you want to do.
And that was what my things have really evolved since then.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So yeah, I mean, uh, look, it sounds like you
had a good day, a lot of travel, you know,
Father's Day, we had the US Open. Uh you know,
I know you were all over the watching of the
US Open. Yeahurst, I don't believe anybody that drew a
name out of a hat drew the right one out
of that. Bryson de Shambeau won it. But I don't
(11:28):
believe that anybody leeve's got the results on that. So
we'll we'll get all that sort of figured out at
some point during the course of the show. We have
a little bit of an issue here in studio because
there's a paper jam in the printer and I can
hear Lee through the studio doors. These are thick walled
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studio doors for a radio studio, so.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
That urs.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Just kicking the s out of the copier and like
the way that radio for people that don't know the
way that radio doors are, they're really everything's built so
that no outside sound comes in, all right, so that
there's no distractions anything outside the studio.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
You normally can't hear Lee.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You just beat the piss out of that copy machine
like I could hear it.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
This is straight off.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, I took that thing apart. What happened?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
If you telling me there's a paper jam, I've removed
the damn paper jam. I've removed everything. I've replaced everything.
It should work. I've put it all back together. What
about like resetting it?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I've reset it. Thanks, I'm sorry, I'll get very upset.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Apparently Lee has jacked up the paper dispenser in the
printer and can't get it back to the normal state
that it was in. You know what's crazy about that
is it could only have happened to Lee, like that's it.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Well, it probably happened earlier and then somebody just left
it for Lee to figure.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Oh yeah, that's it. I forget you guys, are you know? Yeah, yeah,
that's probably what it is. Yeah, And even if that's
what it is, that's probably the only thing that could
happen to Lee. Whichever scenario that it may be, it
would only happen to Lee.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Yeah. Yeah, it's unfortunate. What do you think are you?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Are you optimistic we get this thing figured out Lee,
because we have no there's no papers here, no no printouts,
no nothing that.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
We can make it happen without paper.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
We could do it digitally, but I'm a very I'm
a tactile guy.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I like I like paper.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Listen, I like it. I like when I travel, I
like my actual boarding pass. I don't like to show
somebody in my phone. There's something about it, like I
missed the days. Like when you remember when you get tickets,
you'd have actual physical tickets. Now it's like scan your
phone if you want to get into the game. Not
a fan, not a fan. I like it in my
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I like it in my hand. And I want to
be able to hand over what I purchased and what
I what what I bought, and what I.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Put time out, like digitally making a baby, you know
what I mean? I just don't want to get to
that place.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I don't either, you know what I mean. And I
think we're getting close. Oh dang, I'm saying, yeah, there's a.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Man, it doesn't look like there's a read. Is there
read after this?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
No? No, listen, We're good. I mean, everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's just uh. I was a little bit distracted because
I could just hear leh beating the crap out of
the copy or next door.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So okay, just was I thought you were panicking because
you didn't have like a hard.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Copy to read.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Please, man, you don't have a read, so when you're hard,
you don't need a hard copy.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Dang damn. But it is two pros and a cup
of Joe.
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Speaker 1 (16:03):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up a
little over twenty minutes from now from the tire rack
dot Com Studios. There's a team in the NFL that's
got trouble again. We will explain why that is coming
up here again a little over twenty minutes from now.
So Tom Brady has been in the news a lot lately.
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It's been kind of a busy offseason for Brady.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I mean, he did a roast.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You did a roast you did. He had the enshrinement
into the Patriots Hall of Fame. They're gonna get a
statue done there. Like, there's been all sorts of stuff.
He appeared at the UFL Championship game alongside Joel Klatt
and Kurt Menafee I believe, and was there, you know,
calling the action and you know, trying to get everybody,
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you know, a little bit of a preview as to
what it's going to look like and sound like when
he's in the booth and calling games for Fox coming up,
starting with the Cowboys and the Browns in Week one.
But he also did share some critiques about the game
that he left as a player. When it comes to
quarterbacking in the National Football League. He was speaking with
the Yahoo Sports and had this to say, I think.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
The quarterbacking has gone backwards a little bit in the NFL.
I don't think it's improved. I don't think the teaching's improved.
I think maybe the physical fundamentals might be a little
bit improved because there's better information out there for quarterbacks
to study on mechanics. But I don't think quarterbacks are
really field generals right now like they used to be.
It's a broad statement, certainly, But I had total control.
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I had all the tools I needed, and I was
coached that way. I was developed to have the tools
that I need to go on the field so that
whenever something came up, I had the right play, the
right formation, the right audible, the right check at the
line to ultimately take control of the eleven guys on
offense and get us into a good positive play. I
saw the same thing on defense. I think now there's
this try to control element from the sideline between the
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coaches where they want to have the control and they're
not teaching and developing the players the right tools so
they can go on the field and make their own
decisions that are best suited for the team.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
So, just from a player standpoint.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It has been great to get cues perspective on this, but.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I agree, you know, just being around the game at
the different levels where where what he's talking about, I
think it's I want to say, it's a symptom. And
it's a product of seven on seven culture. And in
a lot of ways, you know, these these coaches are
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micro managing. You know how these quarterbacks are processing. You
know what's taking place with defenses. You know a lot
of times in seven on seven and and maybe it
may not be too pronounced, but it definitely becomes a
micro managed situation.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
In tackle games, It's like you.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Walk up to the line of scrimmage, you look at
you look at the The offensive coordinators get a chance
to look at what the defenses are aligning in what
they're what they're set is. They probably do a prediagnosis
of if they're in man, or if they're looking like
they're in zone, if it looks like it's a blitz,
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or if it looks like it's not a blitz, and
they they they stop the quarterback, the offense they stop
and they look over to the sideline to get the play.
That goes on, and and that goes on in in
high school, and it goes on in college. I'm sitting
here I'm thinking about maybe it's not as bad in
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seven or seven. I don't want to put false fat
information out Yeah, I don't want to put false fat
information out there. It's definitely more pronounced at in high
school tackle games. It's just it's just to the point
now where it's almost like, I don't know if it's
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because there's a lack of trust in the quarterback to
be able to make a read and more often in
the passing game, and if there is the opportunity to
run the ball and you audible to a run, I
don't know that there's as much trust in quarterbacks, or
if it's just a symptom of the control factoring and
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the micromanaging of the coaches on the sideline, believing in
the analytics and different things like that, and they apply
those things on the sideline and say, here's the call
we're going to make based off of the down, the distance,
what time is on the clock, you know, what defensive set.
It is like they have all these notes on their
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play calling sheets and they make these calls off of that,
and it's almost to the point of where tells the
quarterback exactly where they need to be looking or when
they need to deliver the ball where they need to
deliver the ball. And I think it is is exactly
what Tom Brady is saying. It's it's it's slowing down
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the development. It's it's not developing a quarterback to be
able to go on the field and problem solve on
the field.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
There is no real reason the.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Problem solve because the coaches are calling the players and
telling them what they should do. And then now I
believe that it messes up in some ways the decision
making ability of these these players because what if it
ends up being something different. What if the coverage is
better than what it was anticipated. What if the player
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falls down that was you know, kind of pinpointed to
do what, you know, do what he was supposed to
do and get the ball. I mean, there's so many,
to me, so many different factors that play a part.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Is it just information overload to a certain extent.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I feel like it's a lack of information overload, But.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like as far as if there's like if coaches have
everything down pinpointed to for this, for that, for that,
it just it feels like a lot as opposed to, hey,
this is what you need to get the job done
and then when you get out there, if something goes wrong,
you need to be able to adapt and learn as
you go, as opposed to no, no, no, no no, we
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have a solution for that. No no, no, We've got this
for that. No no, no, We've got that for that. And
it feels like Brady is saying, and Tom Brady, we
have another.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Brady, don't worry. We're not trying to Brady. We're talking
about Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But it feels like Tom Brady saying, Look, I need
to be able to be trusted to go out there
and be able to figure it out on my own
and not have to look over and somebody's got a
queue card, somebody's got a signal, somebody. It feels like
there's more on the sidelines and maybe less on the
field is what he's kind of getting at. And I
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don't know if you ever came across like I know,
first time I ever did a spot on radio, I
was calling in from a game and I had all
of these notes. I was doing, like it an in
game report. I had all these notes I jotted down.
I was going to call in twice an hour to
give updates from this game, and blah, blah like ah,
(23:25):
I mean I took like copious notes, like all this
stuff done. I called in and I was atrocious, and
I realized because I was trying to get too much
information out there instead of feeling it and just explaining
what the hell was going on in the action. And
once I figured that out, I was like, okay, you know,
like I'm a bullet point guy, like I don't. I
don't want a script. I need to be able to
(23:47):
have a little bit of room to work so that
I can figure things out. And I wonder if maybe
that's kind of what he's alluding to, that there's so
much out there from the sidelines that maybe he can't
operate and quarterbacks can't operate the way they used to me.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I just don't think they can. I don't think you can,
and I don't think they do. And I think that again,
what he's talking about, where a quarterback is actually able
to come up to the line of scrimmage, look over
the defense, and make an educated decision on what it
is that they're going to do, and make the call
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from there. I mean, imagine Tom Brady having to always
look over to the sideline every single time, you know,
imagine Peyton Manning having to take his eyes off of
the defense and look to the to the coaching staff
over there on the sideline to get what the play
is going to ultimately be and where he should be
(24:49):
thinking to go. I understand the idea of taking as
much thinking out of the game as possible, because in
some cases, the leaf of it is is that if
you take away the thinking, the less thinking a player
has to do, the more reacting, and the better they can,
(25:10):
you know, play like the quicker the faster you can
play if you're sure about what it is you're going
to do. I just think that for some positions that
shouldn't be the case, and I think quarterback is one
of those positions where it's a game of chess. And
if I feel as though what I'm seeing the defense
(25:30):
try to do to me and I'm understanding what they're
trying to take away from me what my opportunities are,
can I shift the way that the defense is playing,
or at least the way players on the defense are
playing against me, You know, by the things that I'm
doing the players that I'm calling, then you would believe
(25:51):
that you want your quarterback to be that developed where
they can play that chess match in real time on
a football field versus it being in the hands of,
you know, of the coaches on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I also was thinking this when you hear Tom Brady
break down and be critical of quarterback play, and this
is not the first time that he's done it, like
he's been open about this before. I think he's going
to be a lot more critical as an analyst than
I think a lot of.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
People anticipate or maybe expect.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And I think that because the one that look, Greg
Olsen did a great job, but I never really heard
Greg Olsen be openly critical of a team or a
player or anything like that. Like he like he solid broadcaster,
did a tremendous job. He's going to keep doing a
good job, and he's going to get better and better
as well. And he's already good at the gig. But
(26:44):
I think Tom Brady might have a different approach where
it's like, if he wants to be critical of somebody,
what the hell are they going to.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Say to him?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's the greatest greatest quarterback, maybe the greatest player in
the history of football, Like he can like he has
full autonomy to be able to talk and share his
opinions on things more so than than any other player
who stepped into the booth as far as credentials go.
And so when I hear him be as critical as
he is of quarterbacking, I think I think people are
(27:13):
going to be in for a little bit of a
surprise at how brutally honest and blunt he is. Guy
just did a roast, for God's sakes. I think I
think he's starting to get his reps in understanding that
you're going to say some things that people aren't like.
Apparently whatever happened at the Ross broke up Giselle and
or jiu jitsu boyfriend. Apparently they broke up because of
some of the commentary there. Point is, that's sone of
(27:35):
our business. Tom Brady's going to be great.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
He did them to begin with, Yeah, well you know
that man just delivered one of the greatest speeches.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Of all time all about football.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It was one of the greatest.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
It was so well written, it was so well delivered,
only only as Tom could do.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think Tom is.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Turning into a a personality, a savant of sorts, and
what he's able to do in the media, he's captivating.
He does not disappoint He gives provocative thoughts. I mean,
this is a provocative thought because to call in the
question the level of understanding and development of quarterbacks basically
(28:22):
insinuating and saying that they're going backwards instead of going
forward in terms of their evolution and you know, evolving
into what it is that you know, being.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
A different type of quarterback. I think that that's.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
He also he called everybody out, because it's also calling
into question the coaching process coaches, of course.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I mean everybody.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Well, it's it really is calling out the coaches is
what it's doing. It's not really calling out the players.
It's just calling out the players are a product of
what the coaches are doing is ultimately what he's doing.
But regardless of that, it's a great observation and it
came from Tom Brady. So what coach do you think
is going to come out in probably and be like, yeah,
(29:08):
tom Brady's full of sall, you know, stick to.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Your day job, tom Brady. Like, who's going to come
out and say that.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It's like if Michael Jordan shares an opinion about basketball,
just shut up, Like, don't respond, Just sit there and
take it and understand. Oh, that's him. He could say
whatever the hell he wants. And it's the same with Brady.
I just I hear him talk and be critical. I
hear the speech that you're talking about. Maybe we'll play
a little bit of that speech earlier because it's awesome,
(29:36):
or later on because it's awesome from his enshrinment with
the Patriots into their Hall of Fame. And I go,
this guy's going to be great. Like, I think he's
going to be really good, and whatever criticisms there are
of him the first week, I think he's going to
wear all of it. I think he's going to get
better and better and better and it's going to be Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I don't think that's going I think he's working all
of those issues out before he goes into his first game.
And sure there will be first game, jitters, Sure there
will be first time you know, trying to just deal
with being in the live moment of doing the game.
(30:14):
But that dude's preparation is going to be so phenomenal.
It's already at at a high levels. He's now really
really acclimated to being in front of the camera. I mean,
how much harder, how much easier will it be to
be in front of a camera and you're not getting roasted.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
All you're doing is talking about.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
What you know and what you do in football, and
who's not going to talk to him. A lot of
the ability to be able to do commentary the way
that he's going to do it is based off of
the coaching staff and the players talking to you. Now,
if he ever gets to a point of where the
players and the coaches don't talk to him, where he
(30:55):
can develop his storylines and develop you know what it
is that he thinking about what's connected to the game
and the game plan of the games that he's calling,
that could be a little more interesting. If he has
to be more of a personality that isn't as prepared
(31:17):
based off of just not being able to get the
openness and the information from the teams the way that
he may get early on, that could be something that's
interesting to see how he handles doing games. But as
far as having the information and being prepared and being
able to apply it to what he's he's experienced as
(31:40):
a player, he's already worked on it. He's already worked
through it. You can tell he's he's operating at a
high level.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Right now, and by the way he just did a roast.
As you pointed out, you know, he's got some sweet
material on Deshaun Watson for that first game, Like, you know,
he's got some stuff up his sleeves that he can
pull out if anybody's gonna catch Like maybe it'll be
like like on the sneak, like he'll drop a massage
Watson line or something like that.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Oh man, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
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Speaker 6 (33:37):
Lap goodod morning, everybody, Good morning, LeVar, Good morning Jonas, guys.
In case you miss this, Chiefs defensive lineman Isaiah Bugs
has been arrested for the second time in a month
after a online record show. He was booked on domestic
violence and burglary chargers in Alabama on Sunday morning on
(33:58):
May thirtieth. This was the one before he was charged
with two misdemeanor counts of second degree animal cruelty also
in Tuscaloosa. So bad news for Chiefs defensive lineman Isaiah Bugs.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
And then you got.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Rashie Rice, who also got popped earlier this offseason.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
You know, it's great about the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Though, what's great about the Chiefs?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
None of it matters. As long as Mahomes doesn't get arrested,
they're fine. I mean, like his dad, Yo.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Daddy, Yo daddy got arrested. By the way, Yo daddy
got arrested.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yo daddy. It's just as long as Mahomes is available.
Travis Kelsey's available, Chris Jones and Andy Reid take your chances.
You know, anybody else that's fine. Anybody else is you know, replaceable,
and you just you take your chances and roll with
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them into their regular season. So a couple of guys
get popped for Kansas City. Kind of a weird offseason
for them. Oh, by the way, Hayley, what hey, Bredad's doing?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Brady's part? Oh Yang what bread?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I don't I don't feel like that was a accurate
representation or imitation of Brady Quinn.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, but in honor of Bryce and Deshambo, who's a
meathead winning the US Open.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Uh, you know, I wanted to really meadheaded up for
Brady because he's a meathead. So yeah, meatheads unite. What
else we got lee, Guys? It's official.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Bill Belichick has a new love interest in his life,
that being a twenty four year old ex cheerleader named
Jordan Hudson. Sources say they've been been seeing each other
at least knowing each other all the way back since
twenty twenty one, shortly started datinger after he split with
his ex girlfriend. They bonded over her philosophy paper that
(35:51):
she was writing in the cottage. Wait really Yeah, They
were on a flight and bonded over a fl cite
project the student athlete had been working on.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Oh yeah, what flight was that bout? You? Was that
a team chartered flight.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Flight from Boston area bound for Florida, way back in
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
This is all I could see here. It was Cocoon Airlines.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
And they would continue bonding over, discussing her schoolwork and
the x's and o's of her cheerleading routines. He's been
spotted at her cheerloading cheerleading competitions. She's been spotted on
flights with him to Croatia, a work related, work related flight.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Yeah, it's going well.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Even Rob Gronkowski cracked a joke about it that none
of us caught back at Tom Brady's roast.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
I'm just curious as to whether they met Wow on
a team event.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Listen, let me help you out, Lebar. This will be
your thoughts for the day on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Already seen it. I've already seen it. Listen. If she
loves it, good for her. She loves she.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Loves it, she loves it.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I mean, damn yeah, I know, though.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I do.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I mean, I have I have a son, I have
a son that that's her age. And if you know
if I had a son that well, if I had
one of my daughters, just say my daughter was that
age and she brought Bill Belichick home because she was
dating him, I just don't think I'd be all right
(37:32):
with it.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
How old is Dolly Parton?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
She in the same like kind of the same age
range as Belichick.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Is she.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
And Belichick's because you're wearing the same.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Okay, Dolly Parton could get that work. Dolly Parton, it
could be an exception. But it's Bill Belichick. Hold on,
it's Bill Belichick. Like Lenny Kravitz as old as dirt?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Right, how old is Lenny Krabbit?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
He's old dog. He's in his fifties.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Yeah, but sixties, that's twenty years years young.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
He's sixty years old.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Come on, you bring a sixty year old Lenny krab
it's over and you're dating my kid. I possibly could
make an exception. See, I feel like girls are different
than boys. I can make an exception for my son
bringing home old ass.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Well, if your son, if your son walked in the
door and said, Dad, i'd like you to meet my girlfriend,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Dolly Pardon, I'd be like, that's Dolly Parton, so tell
you something. He'd be like, yes it is. I'd be like, what.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
He gets an increase in his life.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
He's seventy eight years old, But all of our ain't.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Yeah, like yeah, in fact, in fact.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Some of it is younger than you. My God, So.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Happy happy twenty second birthday to Dolly's friends.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
But I would say this, they.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Are so I would tell you to say this.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Your son walks in the front door with Dolly Parton
increasing his allowance retroactively.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
To increase his allowance, he could, I mean the rocking
that thing like get that work it all out
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Monday edition. Of course, we're going to talk about
Father's Day, the weekend that was. We are going to
discuss Levar's trip to Knoxville. Could we be seeing an
Arrington in the sec We'll get all that for you.
We're also going to talk about Bryson Deshambo doing it
for meatheads at the US Open. We will hear from
(00:23):
Tom Brady and his honest criticism of quarterback play and
what it means for his broadcasting future. Cheers to Bill
Belichick that a way Bill wait to bounce back from
a rough year for coach Belichick. We will get into
the details on that as well too. We'll have a
conversation about the WNBA, probably not one that anybody's gonna like.
We're also going to talk about other news and notes
(00:44):
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on TNT coverage, say it it's so Kyrie irving with
some brutal honesty. And we've got an FSRIR and you
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sprinkler chair, Loraina is dancing, Eddie's dancing.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
But it is two pros and a cup of joe.
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you here. No, Brady Quinn suspended. He has been suspended.
What he's been suspended for we haven't come up with
anything yet, but he suspended. He will not be here
for this show, and if he keeps it up, he's
not gonna be here for tomorrow's show or Wednesday. I mean,
that's the way we handle stuff around here. But we
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Speaker 5 (03:15):
Sticks?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh it was.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Good, man, It's really good. I spent most of it traveling,
but you know it was it was good. It was
definitely good.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
You were in Tennessee, right.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was in Knoxville, Tennessee. Go Orange.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Oh, Yeah, how was it? Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It was really good man.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You know I never took any visits when when I
was a when I was a player, you know. So
I took one official visit when I was in high
school that was the Penn State, and I committed.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And so while I love my school and I loved.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Where I went and loved everything about it, my community,
everybody that associated with it still never had the experience
of seeing what it was like to be with like
another school, to be around another school. And it's almost
like dating, right, It's like they say, you know, I mean,
this is so far from what today's realities are, I
(04:17):
guess in many cases, but maybe it's still the same
for some they say you shouldn't be with a person
until you get married, and kind of sort of like,
you know, the whole idea that is, it's like if
you don't know what else, you know, anything else is.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Like, you know, you should be good.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You know, like you know me, I know you, this
is what we know and good, like this is good
because that's it. Well, that's kind of how recruiting was
for me. My visit was to the school that I
went to. I had already committed before I even took
my official visit.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Jonas, So you saved yourself for a Penn State.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I saved myself for Penn State. But you know what,
Penn State didn't save themselves for me. Now I'm thinking
about it because they had got plenty of commitments from
players before. But anyway to think about it that that
my son has been expected to be a Penn State
Ninny Lyon, and you know, a lot of a lot
(05:13):
of it has you know, a lot of you know,
colleges maybe stayed away from really recruiting them pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Because they had thought he had already committed.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
But you know, he he has kept his options open
and there have been some really really qualified schools that
have have put their their best foot forward. And this
weekend was Tennessee and it was It was not a
disappointment my guy.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
It's a different levels.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
They not only are the SEC but they are really
really going in the right direction. They really are hypel Is.
He's a man's man. Really liked him. I enjoyed his company,
his his coaching staff really really uh knowledgeable coaching staff.
(06:05):
Tim Banks, you know, came from Penn State actually and
is the defensive coordinator there, so he you know, he's
coached guys like you know you may know the names
Michael Parson and Jesse Loketta. The name a couple of names. Yeah, so, uh,
they're they're pretty. Uh, you know, they're pretty The guy
(06:26):
that would be coaching man and former former player in
the in the NFL, knows what knows what the NFL
was like, knows what what college success is like. Very
very uh travel you know, been in the been in
the game for I think you know, it's been close
to thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I think it is. So it's uh, man, I think it's.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
It's it's a school that we're seriously considering.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
When does he When does he make his call? When
does he make this?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, so he's got Penn State this week, so I
won't be with you guys at the end of the week.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, you know, family first, man. I mean, I'm sorry,
you know, I I gotta do what I got too.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But but yeah, I mean we'll leave Thursday to go
to Penn State. So he's pretty much gotten it narrowed
down to, you know, what his final decision will be
made based off of. He took three official visits, one
to u c. L A, now to Tennessee, and then
(07:33):
next up is Penn State. So we'll see, We'll see
how it goes out Penn State. It's interesting that Penn
State was the last scheduled. And by the way, these
are job interviews with parents jonas, like extensive three day,
(07:53):
four day job interviews. And I know everybody thinks it's
it's an interview of the school to the kid, but
it really the way it felt, it was a job
interview for the kid with the family being there.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, they got to get make sure you guys are
comfortable with where he goes. He's gonna spend the next
three four years of his life. I mean, they've gotta
gotta warm you guys up to the idea of him,
you know, going all the way across country I would imagine.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And yeah, it's but it's just the process is kind
of it's actually like kind of lightweight kind of grueling.
I wouldn't say overly grueling, but definitely touches the level
of a super long process. You have meetings all day,
(08:43):
you have presentations all day, you have things you have
to do medically, you have things you have to do physically.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You I mean, you have.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Meeting after meeting, after meeting, after meeting, and then you
eat food is good, get good food, get a little
bit of rest time. Then you have an evening event
that takes place that's that's definitely not work intensive. But
the morning, like the morning into early noon, like maybe
(09:15):
like one or two wish something like that. You're you're like,
you're working, You're your job interviewing. It's like a it's
a job interview.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It must like I have never been wanted by anybody
or anything. And your son's got Tennessee, Penn State, and
UCLA that all want him to come play ball. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Well it's more than that, but he's yeah, he's kind
of narrowed it down. But I mean, yeah, I guess
in essence what you're saying, he is wanted. It is
cool to be wanted. I mean there is there's a
lot that comes with it. You know, there's a lot
that comes with being wanted, a lot of responsibility to
saying that much as much is given, much is required
(09:58):
is a very very true state. It's it's not it's
not the most it's not like this relaxing thing where
you go and this that I mean, they took them
to the water, you know, they went out on the
boat went on the water. We had we had breakfast
on the water. It was that was nice, but it
(10:21):
was it's not what you expected. Like my official visit
was go up there, watch a game, hang out with
one of the players. They introduce you to people, hint, hint,
you have a good time, and then your visit's over.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You know. That's what I remember it being people and.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Bang bang bang bang.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Cannons, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And then you figure out what you want to do.
And that was what my things have really evolved since then.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So yeah, I mean, uh, look, it sounds like you
had a good day, a lot of travel, you know,
Father's Day, we had the US Open. Uh you know,
I know you were all over the watching of the
US Open. Yeahurst, I don't believe anybody that drew a
name out of a hat drew the right one out
of that. Bryson de Shambeau won it. But I don't
(11:28):
believe that anybody leeve's got the results on that. So
we'll we'll get all that sort of figured out at
some point during the course of the show. We have
a little bit of an issue here in studio because
there's a paper jam in the printer and I can
hear Lee through the studio doors. These are thick walled
(11:50):
studio doors for a radio studio, so.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
That urs.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Just kicking the s out of the copier and like
the way that radio for people that don't know the
way that radio doors are, they're really everything's built so
that no outside sound comes in, all right, so that
there's no distractions anything outside the studio.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
You normally can't hear Lee.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You just beat the piss out of that copy machine
like I could hear it.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
This is straight off.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, I took that thing apart. What happened?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
If you telling me there's a paper jam, I've removed
the damn paper jam. I've removed everything. I've replaced everything.
It should work. I've put it all back together. What
about like resetting it?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I've reset it. Thanks, I'm sorry, I'll get very upset.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Apparently Lee has jacked up the paper dispenser in the
printer and can't get it back to the normal state
that it was in. You know what's crazy about that
is it could only have happened to Lee, like that's it.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Well, it probably happened earlier and then somebody just left
it for Lee to figure.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Oh yeah, that's it. I forget you guys, are you know? Yeah, yeah,
that's probably what it is. Yeah, And even if that's
what it is, that's probably the only thing that could
happen to Lee. Whichever scenario that it may be, it
would only happen to Lee.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Yeah. Yeah, it's unfortunate. What do you think are you?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Are you optimistic we get this thing figured out Lee,
because we have no there's no papers here, no no printouts,
no nothing that.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
We can make it happen without paper.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
We could do it digitally, but I'm a very I'm
a tactile guy.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I like I like paper.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Listen, I like it. I like when I travel, I
like my actual boarding pass. I don't like to show
somebody in my phone. There's something about it, like I
missed the days. Like when you remember when you get tickets,
you'd have actual physical tickets. Now it's like scan your
phone if you want to get into the game. Not
a fan, not a fan. I like it in my
(13:57):
I like it in my hand. And I want to
be able to hand over what I purchased and what
I what what I bought, and what I.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Put time out, like digitally making a baby, you know
what I mean? I just don't want to get to
that place.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I don't either, you know what I mean. And I
think we're getting close. Oh dang, I'm saying, yeah, there's a.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Man, it doesn't look like there's a read. Is there
read after this?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
No? No, listen, We're good. I mean, everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's just uh. I was a little bit distracted because
I could just hear leh beating the crap out of
the copy or next door.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So okay, just was I thought you were panicking because
you didn't have like a hard.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Copy to read.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Please, man, you don't have a read, so when you're hard,
you don't need a hard copy.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Dang damn. But it is two pros and a cup
of Joe.
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Speaker 1 (16:03):
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little over twenty minutes from now from the tire rack
dot Com Studios. There's a team in the NFL that's
got trouble again. We will explain why that is coming
up here again a little over twenty minutes from now.
So Tom Brady has been in the news a lot lately.
(16:25):
It's been kind of a busy offseason for Brady.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I mean, he did a roast.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You did a roast you did. He had the enshrinement
into the Patriots Hall of Fame. They're gonna get a
statue done there. Like, there's been all sorts of stuff.
He appeared at the UFL Championship game alongside Joel Klatt
and Kurt Menafee I believe, and was there, you know,
calling the action and you know, trying to get everybody,
(16:52):
you know, a little bit of a preview as to
what it's going to look like and sound like when
he's in the booth and calling games for Fox coming up,
starting with the Cowboys and the Browns in Week one.
But he also did share some critiques about the game
that he left as a player. When it comes to
quarterbacking in the National Football League. He was speaking with
the Yahoo Sports and had this to say, I think.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
The quarterbacking has gone backwards a little bit in the NFL.
I don't think it's improved. I don't think the teaching's improved.
I think maybe the physical fundamentals might be a little
bit improved because there's better information out there for quarterbacks
to study on mechanics. But I don't think quarterbacks are
really field generals right now like they used to be.
It's a broad statement, certainly, But I had total control.
(17:33):
I had all the tools I needed, and I was
coached that way. I was developed to have the tools
that I need to go on the field so that
whenever something came up, I had the right play, the
right formation, the right audible, the right check at the
line to ultimately take control of the eleven guys on
offense and get us into a good positive play. I
saw the same thing on defense. I think now there's
this try to control element from the sideline between the
(17:56):
coaches where they want to have the control and they're
not teaching and developing the players the right tools so
they can go on the field and make their own
decisions that are best suited for the team.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
So, just from a player standpoint.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It has been great to get cues perspective on this, but.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I agree, you know, just being around the game at
the different levels where where what he's talking about, I
think it's I want to say, it's a symptom. And
it's a product of seven on seven culture. And in
a lot of ways, you know, these these coaches are
(18:37):
micro managing. You know how these quarterbacks are processing. You
know what's taking place with defenses. You know a lot
of times in seven on seven and and maybe it
may not be too pronounced, but it definitely becomes a
micro managed situation.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
In tackle games, It's like you.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Walk up to the line of scrimmage, you look at
you look at the The offensive coordinators get a chance
to look at what the defenses are aligning in what
they're what they're set is. They probably do a prediagnosis
of if they're in man, or if they're looking like
they're in zone, if it looks like it's a blitz,
(19:26):
or if it looks like it's not a blitz, and
they they they stop the quarterback, the offense they stop
and they look over to the sideline to get the play.
That goes on, and and that goes on in in
high school, and it goes on in college. I'm sitting
here I'm thinking about maybe it's not as bad in
(19:47):
seven or seven. I don't want to put false fat
information out Yeah, I don't want to put false fat
information out there. It's definitely more pronounced at in high
school tackle games. It's just it's just to the point
now where it's almost like, I don't know if it's
(20:08):
because there's a lack of trust in the quarterback to
be able to make a read and more often in
the passing game, and if there is the opportunity to
run the ball and you audible to a run, I
don't know that there's as much trust in quarterbacks, or
if it's just a symptom of the control factoring and
(20:32):
the micromanaging of the coaches on the sideline, believing in
the analytics and different things like that, and they apply
those things on the sideline and say, here's the call
we're going to make based off of the down, the distance,
what time is on the clock, you know, what defensive set.
It is like they have all these notes on their
(20:54):
play calling sheets and they make these calls off of that,
and it's almost to the point of where tells the
quarterback exactly where they need to be looking or when
they need to deliver the ball where they need to
deliver the ball. And I think it is is exactly
what Tom Brady is saying. It's it's it's slowing down
(21:17):
the development. It's it's not developing a quarterback to be
able to go on the field and problem solve on
the field.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
There is no real reason the.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Problem solve because the coaches are calling the players and
telling them what they should do. And then now I
believe that it messes up in some ways the decision
making ability of these these players because what if it
ends up being something different. What if the coverage is
better than what it was anticipated. What if the player
(21:50):
falls down that was you know, kind of pinpointed to
do what, you know, do what he was supposed to
do and get the ball. I mean, there's so many,
to me, so many different factors that play a part.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Is it just information overload to a certain extent.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I feel like it's a lack of information overload, But.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like as far as if there's like if coaches have
everything down pinpointed to for this, for that, for that,
it just it feels like a lot as opposed to, hey,
this is what you need to get the job done
and then when you get out there, if something goes wrong,
you need to be able to adapt and learn as
you go, as opposed to no, no, no, no no, we
(22:30):
have a solution for that. No no, no, We've got this
for that. No no, no, We've got that for that. And
it feels like Brady is saying, and Tom Brady, we
have another.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Brady, don't worry. We're not trying to Brady. We're talking
about Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But it feels like Tom Brady saying, Look, I need
to be able to be trusted to go out there
and be able to figure it out on my own
and not have to look over and somebody's got a
queue card, somebody's got a signal, somebody. It feels like
there's more on the sidelines and maybe less on the
field is what he's kind of getting at. And I
(23:04):
don't know if you ever came across like I know,
first time I ever did a spot on radio, I
was calling in from a game and I had all
of these notes. I was doing, like it an in
game report. I had all these notes I jotted down.
I was going to call in twice an hour to
give updates from this game, and blah, blah like ah,
(23:25):
I mean I took like copious notes, like all this
stuff done. I called in and I was atrocious, and
I realized because I was trying to get too much
information out there instead of feeling it and just explaining
what the hell was going on in the action. And
once I figured that out, I was like, okay, you know,
like I'm a bullet point guy, like I don't. I
don't want a script. I need to be able to
(23:47):
have a little bit of room to work so that
I can figure things out. And I wonder if maybe
that's kind of what he's alluding to, that there's so
much out there from the sidelines that maybe he can't
operate and quarterbacks can't operate the way they used to me.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I just don't think they can. I don't think you can,
and I don't think they do. And I think that again,
what he's talking about, where a quarterback is actually able
to come up to the line of scrimmage, look over
the defense, and make an educated decision on what it
is that they're going to do, and make the call
(24:26):
from there. I mean, imagine Tom Brady having to always
look over to the sideline every single time, you know,
imagine Peyton Manning having to take his eyes off of
the defense and look to the to the coaching staff
over there on the sideline to get what the play
is going to ultimately be and where he should be
(24:49):
thinking to go. I understand the idea of taking as
much thinking out of the game as possible, because in
some cases, the leaf of it is is that if
you take away the thinking, the less thinking a player
has to do, the more reacting, and the better they can,
(25:10):
you know, play like the quicker the faster you can
play if you're sure about what it is you're going
to do. I just think that for some positions that
shouldn't be the case, and I think quarterback is one
of those positions where it's a game of chess. And
if I feel as though what I'm seeing the defense
(25:30):
try to do to me and I'm understanding what they're
trying to take away from me what my opportunities are,
can I shift the way that the defense is playing,
or at least the way players on the defense are
playing against me, You know, by the things that I'm
doing the players that I'm calling, then you would believe
(25:51):
that you want your quarterback to be that developed where
they can play that chess match in real time on
a football field versus it being in the hands of,
you know, of the coaches on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I also was thinking this when you hear Tom Brady
break down and be critical of quarterback play, and this
is not the first time that he's done it, like
he's been open about this before. I think he's going
to be a lot more critical as an analyst than
I think a lot of.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
People anticipate or maybe expect.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And I think that because the one that look, Greg
Olsen did a great job, but I never really heard
Greg Olsen be openly critical of a team or a
player or anything like that. Like he like he solid broadcaster,
did a tremendous job. He's going to keep doing a
good job, and he's going to get better and better
as well. And he's already good at the gig. But
(26:44):
I think Tom Brady might have a different approach where
it's like, if he wants to be critical of somebody,
what the hell are they going to.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Say to him?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's the greatest greatest quarterback, maybe the greatest player in
the history of football, Like he can like he has
full autonomy to be able to talk and share his
opinions on things more so than than any other player
who stepped into the booth as far as credentials go.
And so when I hear him be as critical as
he is of quarterbacking, I think I think people are
(27:13):
going to be in for a little bit of a
surprise at how brutally honest and blunt he is. Guy
just did a roast, for God's sakes. I think I
think he's starting to get his reps in understanding that
you're going to say some things that people aren't like.
Apparently whatever happened at the Ross broke up Giselle and
or jiu jitsu boyfriend. Apparently they broke up because of
some of the commentary there. Point is, that's sone of
(27:35):
our business. Tom Brady's going to be great.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
He did them to begin with, Yeah, well you know
that man just delivered one of the greatest speeches.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Of all time all about football.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It was one of the greatest.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
It was so well written, it was so well delivered,
only only as Tom could do.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think Tom is.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Turning into a a personality, a savant of sorts, and
what he's able to do in the media, he's captivating.
He does not disappoint He gives provocative thoughts. I mean,
this is a provocative thought because to call in the
question the level of understanding and development of quarterbacks basically
(28:22):
insinuating and saying that they're going backwards instead of going
forward in terms of their evolution and you know, evolving
into what it is that you know, being.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
A different type of quarterback. I think that that's.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
He also he called everybody out, because it's also calling
into question the coaching process coaches, of course.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I mean everybody.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Well, it's it really is calling out the coaches is
what it's doing. It's not really calling out the players.
It's just calling out the players are a product of
what the coaches are doing is ultimately what he's doing.
But regardless of that, it's a great observation and it
came from Tom Brady. So what coach do you think
is going to come out in probably and be like, yeah,
(29:08):
tom Brady's full of sall, you know, stick to.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Your day job, tom Brady. Like, who's going to come
out and say that.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It's like if Michael Jordan shares an opinion about basketball,
just shut up, Like, don't respond, Just sit there and
take it and understand. Oh, that's him. He could say
whatever the hell he wants. And it's the same with Brady.
I just I hear him talk and be critical. I
hear the speech that you're talking about. Maybe we'll play
a little bit of that speech earlier because it's awesome,
(29:36):
or later on because it's awesome from his enshrinment with
the Patriots into their Hall of Fame. And I go,
this guy's going to be great. Like, I think he's
going to be really good, and whatever criticisms there are
of him the first week, I think he's going to
wear all of it. I think he's going to get
better and better and better and it's going to be Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I don't think that's going I think he's working all
of those issues out before he goes into his first game.
And sure there will be first game, jitters, Sure there
will be first time you know, trying to just deal
with being in the live moment of doing the game.
(30:14):
But that dude's preparation is going to be so phenomenal.
It's already at at a high levels. He's now really
really acclimated to being in front of the camera. I mean,
how much harder, how much easier will it be to
be in front of a camera and you're not getting roasted.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
All you're doing is talking about.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
What you know and what you do in football, and
who's not going to talk to him. A lot of
the ability to be able to do commentary the way
that he's going to do it is based off of
the coaching staff and the players talking to you. Now,
if he ever gets to a point of where the
players and the coaches don't talk to him, where he
(30:55):
can develop his storylines and develop you know what it
is that he thinking about what's connected to the game
and the game plan of the games that he's calling,
that could be a little more interesting. If he has
to be more of a personality that isn't as prepared
(31:17):
based off of just not being able to get the
openness and the information from the teams the way that
he may get early on, that could be something that's
interesting to see how he handles doing games. But as
far as having the information and being prepared and being
able to apply it to what he's he's experienced as
(31:40):
a player, he's already worked on it. He's already worked
through it. You can tell he's he's operating at a
high level.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Right now, and by the way he just did a roast.
As you pointed out, you know, he's got some sweet
material on Deshaun Watson for that first game, Like, you know,
he's got some stuff up his sleeves that he can
pull out if anybody's gonna catch Like maybe it'll be
like like on the sneak, like he'll drop a massage
Watson line or something like that.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Oh man, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, and coming up next here from
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tell you about one team in the NFL that's got
trouble again.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
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Speaker 5 (32:39):
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Speaker 6 (33:37):
Lap goodod morning, everybody, Good morning, LeVar, Good morning Jonas, guys.
In case you miss this, Chiefs defensive lineman Isaiah Bugs
has been arrested for the second time in a month
after a online record show. He was booked on domestic
violence and burglary chargers in Alabama on Sunday morning on
(33:58):
May thirtieth. This was the one before he was charged
with two misdemeanor counts of second degree animal cruelty also
in Tuscaloosa. So bad news for Chiefs defensive lineman Isaiah Bugs.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
And then you got.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Rashie Rice, who also got popped earlier this offseason.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
You know, it's great about the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Though, what's great about the Chiefs?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
None of it matters. As long as Mahomes doesn't get arrested,
they're fine. I mean, like his dad, Yo.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Daddy, Yo daddy got arrested. By the way, Yo daddy
got arrested.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yo daddy. It's just as long as Mahomes is available.
Travis Kelsey's available, Chris Jones and Andy Reid take your chances.
You know, anybody else that's fine. Anybody else is you know, replaceable,
and you just you take your chances and roll with
(34:53):
them into their regular season. So a couple of guys
get popped for Kansas City. Kind of a weird offseason
for them. Oh, by the way, Hayley, what hey, Bredad's doing?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Brady's part? Oh Yang what bread?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I don't I don't feel like that was a accurate
representation or imitation of Brady Quinn.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, but in honor of Bryce and Deshambo, who's a
meathead winning the US Open.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Uh, you know, I wanted to really meadheaded up for
Brady because he's a meathead. So yeah, meatheads unite. What
else we got lee, Guys? It's official.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Bill Belichick has a new love interest in his life,
that being a twenty four year old ex cheerleader named
Jordan Hudson. Sources say they've been been seeing each other
at least knowing each other all the way back since
twenty twenty one, shortly started datinger after he split with
his ex girlfriend. They bonded over her philosophy paper that
(35:51):
she was writing in the cottage. Wait really Yeah, They
were on a flight and bonded over a fl cite
project the student athlete had been working on.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Oh yeah, what flight was that bout? You? Was that
a team chartered flight.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Flight from Boston area bound for Florida, way back in
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
This is all I could see here. It was Cocoon Airlines.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
And they would continue bonding over, discussing her schoolwork and
the x's and o's of her cheerleading routines. He's been
spotted at her cheerloading cheerleading competitions. She's been spotted on
flights with him to Croatia, a work related, work related flight.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Yeah, it's going well.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Even Rob Gronkowski cracked a joke about it that none
of us caught back at Tom Brady's roast.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
I'm just curious as to whether they met Wow on
a team event.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Listen, let me help you out, Lebar. This will be
your thoughts for the day on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Already seen it. I've already seen it. Listen. If she
loves it, good for her. She loves she.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Loves it, she loves it.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I mean, damn yeah, I know, though.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I do.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I mean, I have I have a son, I have
a son that that's her age. And if you know
if I had a son that well, if I had
one of my daughters, just say my daughter was that
age and she brought Bill Belichick home because she was
dating him, I just don't think I'd be all right
(37:32):
with it.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
How old is Dolly Parton?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
She in the same like kind of the same age
range as Belichick.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Is she.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
And Belichick's because you're wearing the same.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Okay, Dolly Parton could get that work. Dolly Parton, it
could be an exception. But it's Bill Belichick. Hold on,
it's Bill Belichick. Like Lenny Kravitz as old as dirt?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Right, how old is Lenny Krabbit?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
He's old dog. He's in his fifties.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Yeah, but sixties, that's twenty years years young.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
He's sixty years old.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Come on, you bring a sixty year old Lenny krab
it's over and you're dating my kid. I possibly could
make an exception. See, I feel like girls are different
than boys. I can make an exception for my son
bringing home old ass.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Well, if your son, if your son walked in the
door and said, Dad, i'd like you to meet my girlfriend,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Dolly Pardon, I'd be like, that's Dolly Parton, so tell
you something. He'd be like, yes it is. I'd be like, what.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
He gets an increase in his life.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
He's seventy eight years old, But all of our ain't.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Yeah, like yeah, in fact, in fact.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Some of it is younger than you. My God, So.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Happy happy twenty second birthday to Dolly's friends.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
But I would say this, they.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Are so I would tell you to say this.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Your son walks in the front door with Dolly Parton
increasing his allowance retroactively.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
To increase his allowance, he could, I mean the rocking
that thing like get that work it all out
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