September 7, 2022 • 39 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington tell you why College Football Playoff expansion makes sense. Trubisky officially gets the start in Pittsburgh but how long is his leash? Plus, a major flub by the New York Media on In Case You Missed It.
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slowly creeping up. We're getting We're getting real, real close
to the start close season. You guys fired up? Or what? Real? Happy?
Can I be honest with you? I feel like I've
already been fired up. I'm kind of just like, all right,
well let's have a get here, you know, let's let's
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have a get here. College football is already here. True
excited about that. I just I'm I'm trying to be
patient on NFL, but I'm kind of like, manet get
here sooner, Okay, So just get here sooner. Saturday last
this past Saturday was the cherry popper for certain, I
mean for certain, I'm talking about cherries. Um. So I've
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already what role with you. I just like it came
by firing, I didn't. I guess, I guess. So I
came in hot, you know. And But but the thing
about it is is this college football season, I think,
for so many different reasons, has created so much more interests,
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Like don't you feel like you're super super like? It's
now almost like it hits a feverish pitch of interests,
just like the pros in some aspects, in some regards,
because you're seeing teams build their team in a different
way than they than they ever have so leading into
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leading into this upcoming Sunday. And I think you get
a different appreciation of salary caps, of contracts, franchise tags,
free agents. I think you start to really really get
a different appreciation and the understanding of it. At least
for me, this is how I've been approaching the pros
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and it's truly based around the fact that now I'm
going to be comparing how college football is doing their
business and how it looks versus what what the National
Football League is doing. I think the product on the
field is going to be the product on the field.
Obviously it's the best of the best. But I'm just
super interested to see how how the NFL, you know,
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continues to be innovative, and how they keep their audience
not only captive, but they they they add there, they're
still building there, They're they're following. So I'm pretty excited,
I guess for for other reasons than just the play
on the field. Well, i mean, what all the criticism
Roger Goodell gets. The one thing you have to give
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him credit for. He's figured out a way to make
the NFL big business. Like He's figured out different avenues,
whether it's the presentation of the draft, whether it's the
presentation of free agency, like there's an event all year long.
He's turned it into a twelve month sport. And then
you're seeing all the money that the TV contracts, the
player contracts, everything increase. He went from a few years
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ago Tony Romo couldn't have a Fantasy Football Conference in
Las Vegas to now it's everything is sponsored by a
gambling site or there's gambling integrated into some of the
conversations and the broadcast. So I just I think the
NFL has figured out a way to turn this into
a profitable sport, more so than any other sport in
the country. And college football feels like they're following the
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same path. And now they're just having to address some
of the concerns that people have for are these players
going to get a piece of some of this revenue?
And it feels like leaves are heading in that direction.
What's fascinating about it is um and I think it
was Front Office Sports that came out with this figure
that they've talked about the expanded playoff, which is just
twelve teams. Okay, two billion dollars, that's what they said
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it could be worth. And you start you start comparing numbers,
and you're going, wait a second, this is pretty comparable
in the NFL right now. I mean, and and you're
talking about the NFL for four team team playoff, college
football is twelve. They could generate two billion dollars off
that the Big Ten just went for one point four
billion dollars per year. I mean not saying that the
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rest of the conferences are going to get that, but
you start adding up the numbers, you're like, hold on
a second, this is actually pretty close to one another.
And I was thinking about this the other day. You know,
there's a lot of people who are against expansion of
the college football playoff, and they've got a bunch of
different reasons for it. I mean, some people will say, hey,
it's going to diminish the regular season. I would tend
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to argue it won't um in part because you know,
those rivalries are always going to exist. You know, we
talked to Albert Brere earlier this year about, hey, would
you rather be Michigan right, but not win a national
championship or lose to Michigan but still win the national championship?
And he's like, you know, after this past year, probably
beat Michigan. And there's a lot of people who probably
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feel that way. It's crazy, but you know, the rivalries
are still gonna be there, and it's not going to
diminish those rivalries because you're still gonna be playing for
your conference championship. You're still gonna be playing for seeding,
like We always talk about that when it comes time
for the NFL playoffs, how important it is to be
the number one overall seed now because that's the only
team that gets a I or home field advantage. All
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those things are still going to matter, and even more
so in the college football playoff format, and it won't
diminish the regular season in part because you've got more spots,
more teams are actually playing for me meaningful games down
the stretch, like your I mean, you could be a
ten and two team and still make it, depending on
what your record is, because there's all these thoughts that well, again,
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if you expand it, you know, it's not really gonna
matter as much as far as the nonconference games you schedule.
Yes it will, because if you're a team that scheduled
a tough nonconference schedule and you're a ten and two team,
they might say, well, hey, you're still gonna make it.
You know, you play those two teams close, we think
you're one of the top twelve in the country, or
we think you should get an at large bid. All
those things are still gonna matter. So I would argue
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that the exact opposite of that, like it's only going
to enhance the regular season because more teams get to,
you know, be able to be a part of it.
I mean, I said yesterday, look is the best way
to determine our our national champion? I don't know. I
I tend to think a playoff format is it's just
can't get too crazy and too big. You know, I'm
not a I'm not a fan of sixty four. I
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think sixteen teams probably makes the most sense. But I mean,
it's it's getting pretty close to LaVar's point. Like when
you start looking at the NFL and college football, that
does seem like they're now like driving parallel along similar highways.
It's just the NFL is a little further ahead on
their journey. The other part of it that doesn't make
sense is when, like in the NBA, if you're a
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team that's fighting for the last playoff spot, it probably
would be better for future purposes if you just go
ahead and make the lottery. Like you get into the
draft lottery, your chances of getting the number one picker slim,
but at least you'll have a better opportunity and a
better player. That doesn't exist in college football. So if
I'm a college football team and I got an opportunity
to get the twelve seed, even though it's a long shot.
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I'm even gonna win one game, let alone win three
to be a national champion. I want that opportunity. I
want an opportunity to go play because there is no lottery,
there's no draft, there's no benefit for me not making
the playoffs. Look at when the NFL expanded to seven teams.
Remember last year, wasn't it Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Indianapolis that
we're all vying for that final spot And it was
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crazy the last week of the season, and all of
a sudden, Penn Roethlisberger's in the playoffs, like like like,
Pittsburgh got that final playoff spot over Baltimore, and the
meltdown from the Colts. I just That's why I said yesterday,
I'm having a hard time finding a flaw with the
college football playoff expansion. And for the people that are
still upset about it, get your head out of your ass.
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This was gonna head in this direction anyways. There was
too much money on the line to your point two
billion for twelve teams. There was way too much money
on the line for not getting to this point. Sorry, man,
I think the thing that bothers to be the most
about the narrative. There's some people who are like, like,
they don't they don't like the fourth team playoffs. They
always could go back to the PCs. You know, look
at the semifinals games, they're all blowouts. Like, dude, we're
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not going backwards, Like like, this isn't that We're not
going back to the BCS model. Okay, you know, maybe
if you want to say ranking the teams with the
BCS model probably made more sense, that's fine, But we're
not going back to the New Year's six with two
teams playing off for the national championship. We go back
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to pay phones. Please. It's like, that's that's not happening.
And and the other thing is I think people get
upset because they're like, well, you know, college football has
always been a regional sport about the regular season and stuff.
It's like, well, look, in order to bring college football
to be the number two sport, if you will, I
mean still under the umbrella of football, but in order
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to make it that number two sport in America, which
it is. It's crazy to think, but it is. It's
the number two sport, you have to continue to grow
and expand. If you don't, you become baseball, You become
America's pastime. You hit a platzau where it's like, well,
I couldn't figure out how to continue to keep growing
the game. You just you never could have. You never
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could figure out a way to make it bigger and better.
That's what's happening with college football. They're taking what was
once viewed as a regional product and you're making it
a national product. And in order to do so, there
has to be changes. There has to be more money
and revenue generated, which is what's happening. And that's a
good thing. It's not a bad thing. You know, when
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when we talked about the n c A basketball tournam
which originally started out as eight teams, you know, then
eventually you know, through like what the sixties and seventy
five was like twenty five teams and then eventually got
but during that whole period and every had everything to
do with money, Like they had to expand in order
to continue to grow the sport. And that actually is
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the number one money maker for the n c a
A is the n c A tournament. Like that's what
just driven all the revenue for the n c A
tournament for years, and so in order to become like
what I think college football can become and to actually,
you know, be driving side by side next to the NFL,
they have to grow and expand they have to do
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these sorts of things to keep paced. At least in
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about one of the major screw ups in recent broadcasting history. Uh,
this might take the cake. So we will get into
that coming up a little over twenty minutes from now
here on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on
Fox Sports Radio. So, Mike Tomlin, the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach,
a lot of people speculated this is where we were
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headed and that Mitch Drabinsky was going to be the
starting quarterback for the Steelers coming up week one this Sunday,
and Mike Tomlin, the Steelers head coach, he confirmed it yesterday.
Mr Bisky is our starting quarterback and our captain man.
We just really comfortable with what Mitch has shown us.
He's a guy that came to us with with franchise
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quarterback experience, if you will. He's comfortable in those shoes.
He's been the focal point of a football team in
the organization before, he's had success in doing so. Now,
one of the things that people were wondering because they
are taking on the Bengals of defending a f C
Champs this Sunday in Cincinnati, is I mean, you know
how all of a sudden, Kenny Pickett, that's what you
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were wondering. Well, in twenty four hours, Kenny Pickett went
from third on the depth chart to number two, and
Mike Tomlin had an explanation for that, so he spoke
yesterday about what went wrong with the depth chart. It
was a clerical error, you know. Um, that's how the
depth chart was listed at the start of training camp.
So the cutting paste component was the cutting paste component.
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I know you were hoping for a little bit more
colorful explanation, but it is what it is. That's what happened.
I'm sorry, a cutting paste so fire like, what does
that even mean? So fire? Well, like the Xerox machine
with the white out didn't didn't work. That was a
cutting day. Is that what we've gotten the apparently apparently
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didn't apply cutting paste to that because that was probably
as he kind of alluded to, what what the depth
chart was coming into training camp, so maybe they didn't
even attempt to cut and paste on on that position group.
But he did say he was going to do it
at his leisure though he did say that. He did
say that, He did say that it's just that leisure
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is coming to a point out there. I guess so,
I mean he might still be on his leisure. I mean,
who's to say that, you know, today or tomorrow then
you know, can he pick it ends up number one
on the depth chart? You know who knows? It's not
his leisure? I just I think it's hilarious what he
is doing. Do you think he is he just happened
with the media. Is he just breaking balls and or
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doesn't feel like I need to give really an explanation,
So let me just go ahead and kind of fart
around with some sort of an excuse. Is that? What
is that? What happens here with when it comes to
Mike Tomlin, Like why why why is he taking this direction?
When it comes to the clerical there, I don't have
to tell you, just uh I waited all this time
Mitch was going to be our star her do you
think he knew well ahead of this point? And then
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he just wanted to play the waiting game and say, well, listen,
I don't know these guys anything. All announced the starting
quarterback in the depth chart when I want to announce it,
and I'll do it Tuesday of of game week. He
said it, and you can kiss my ass, guess he
said it. It's just so funny, man, that that that,
and and nobody in the media there, nobody in Pittsburgh
is gonna say a damn thing to Mike Tomlin because
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because they don't want to have have to deal with the
repercussions of Mike Tomlin because he's very upfront and he's
going to tell you like it is, and he's going
to play this game however wants to play it, and
they just have to wear it. I love it. I
don't really know what direction you're going here. Here's all
I know is I think this makes the Lesha Mitchell
Trobinsky a lot shorter, super short, like if they were
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going to have it where Okay, Kenny Pickett's number three,
Mason Rudolph's number two, You look, yeah, yeah, Like I
kind of said this yesterday, like maybe they felt like
Mason Rudolph's is more of a veteran, He's more prepared
in the case Travisky plays poorly or goes down with
an injury, and then maybe they reevaluate after that week's over.
But now you find yourself in the situation where he's
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one play away, and that puts a lot of pressure
on mits Trabinski. Well, I think, at least in my mind,
I'm fully expecting pick it not only to play games,
but to play games early in this season, because I
think it's gonna be hard for the Steelers to overcome
some of the issues on offense. Now they've got a
great wide receiver group, They've invested in their offensive line.
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I'm just we kind of got to see that improvement
before I'm able to buy in. And even then, you know,
Trabinsky is gonna have to play at a high level,
because so what you want about Ben Roethlisberger, you know,
he's a future Hall of Famer, and I do think
he's still played at a certain level, certain standard to
at least allow this team to I mean, Mike Tomas
never experienced a losing season, So you know that that's
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also the other thing, the frame of mind that I
think there's an expectation for the fan base with the
quarterback play, but also from Mike Tomlin like he's not
it back there, like, yo, yeah, I'm gonna go through
a losing season just because I want Kenny pick the sit. Huh.
He's gonna play him if he feels like Trabinsky isn't
giving them the best chance to win games or is
it helping them, you know, climate and then make a
playoff runs. So I think this puts even more pressure
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on Mr. Robinsky this year and really the clocks starting
on how long ago I should be in that spot.
You know. I was talking to Tyler Vaughan's at at
practice last night and he said that they really really
enjoyed the way Mitch Rabinsky extended to plays, that they
felt like he they were comfortable with the way that
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that he extended the plays and and how he read
the field in terms of delivering balls. And I was like, really,
I was like, you know, Trabinsky, I know he's pretty athletic,
but he was like, yeah, is it. The basically the
common sentiment was we hadn't had that in a few years,
like basically referencing you know, Ben Roethlisberger basically you know,
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had lost that ability to extend the plays the way
that he had did at at the peak of his
you know, the height of his career. So it sounds
as though they're actually pretty high on on Mitch Drabinsky,
and I just wonder, you know, he had success in Buffalo,
you know, the few times that he got an opportunity
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to play, he showed, he showed glimpses of what people
thought that the glimpses were in Chicago and what they
you know, I guess apparently thought they were going to
get more of. But I think we since know that
that Chicago is a very difficult place for for anyone
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right now currently to have a measured level of success.
So I just wonder if Mitch Trobinsky being in a
stable organization, which is super imperative to a person's opportunity
to have, you know, success, or not. Brady, you know,
I know, you know, you go to a place where
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it's not it's not operating at a high level, you're
left to try to figure a whole lot of things
out on your own. But there's also the element of
things that you just don't have control over. You can't
control the things that the people up top that are
running the organization are controlling, which makes that environment conduce
it to the success that that team may enjoy. And
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that could possibly be the opportunity for Mitch Dubiskie in
Pittsburgh to be a quarterback that actually people are like, man, like,
why wasn't he that guy when he was in Chicago.
I'm kind of interested to see how that plays out well.
And Tomlins brought up the mobility several times in the
off season, so I think that's something that he recognized
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that to your point, they didn't have with Roethlisberger. And
that was one of Roethlisberger's calling cards, right that he
could extend to play and he could make plays with
this eye. And then yeah, then it was you know,
it got a little bit more difficult, and when you're
playing behind that bad offensive line because they haven't been
able to run the football for years like this, Like
so Roethlisberger like, was it a couple of years ago?
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He like the number of attempts, Like he was throwing
the ball way too much because they had no running game.
Because the offensive line has been on a downward spiral
for the past several years. And so now at least
you've got your Binsky who can't extend plays. And when
he was at his best, and Brady knows this in Chicago,
when he was at his best, it was when he
was extending plays and he could go play freely. I
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think if he goes in there and plays well, it's
gonna look pretty bad for your guy, Matt Naggy. Listen.
I'm sorry, listen, your guy, Matt Nagie. It's gonna be
a bad look. I mean, he was there. You know,
a couple of playoff does do anything different than Kenny Pickett,
and they're the same athlete. In that regard, there was
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literally a rule that changed in college football because you
out of the athletic is hail to take the SAT
and still stay up and keep running. So here's the
only other thing I'll point out is, you know, none
of it's been live outside of the preseason, which there's
been a few instances of Trabinsky scrambling and extending to play,
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but there's been a couple where you're like, oh no,
that was not the result you're hoping for out of it.
One one in particularly almost threw a pick. It was
a terrible play. I get pulled up from one of
the first preseason games. But you know, I don't view
them they're really any different as far as the ability
to run, extend plays and all that. I think Pitt
fans will tell you based on what they saw from Picket,
So that may be something they're excited about with Trabinsky.
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I just I don't think that's gonna be the determining factor.
I think for Trabinsky, it's gonna be consistency as far
as accurate throws and consistent, consistently being able to play
at a high level and not turning the football over.
Like that's gonna be the next thing that doesn't put
their defense in a tough spot as good as they are,
not stressing them too much because otherwise, again, are those
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the concerns you have with the young quarterback? How consistent
are they gonna be? Are they gonna take care of
the football. If those are the things you're still worried
about with Mitch Trobiscu, it's like, we'll play the young
guy then. So I just I think it's a matter
of time, honestly, because it's a tough division. Um, they
don't have an easy schedule, and you know, as talented
as the wide receiver group is around them, they probably
want their quarterback to have some ability to extend blaze
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because it's what the game calls for. Now, Like that's
that special element that most quarterbacks need to have. But
it's also a necessity with the way their offensive line
play has been of late. So, um, well, we'll see
how it plays out. I think it's the experience, you know,
I think and you kind of are alluding to it.
I think it's the only really, the only thing that
separates the two is experience. And you and I both
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know when you come out of that preseason it is
a totally different game when you get in regular season
because now they're scheming you, you know, and and so
with that being said, you know, can Kenny pick it
come into the regular season when a defensive coordinator looking
at what it is that he did at the college level,
you know, obviously not enough you know, regular season film
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on him, uh to to say all right, this is
what we're gonna get. You're gonna get tendencies off of
what he did in the preseason. But you don't have
a whole lot of film on him, but you don't
have a whole lot of experience if your picket in
terms of understanding what's about to come your way, um
as a quarterback that's about to be schemed against and
your team being schemed against. And I probably would say
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that would most likely be the biggest concern. And that's
for any rookie right at any position, let alone the
most important position on the field. So you know, for me,
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up playing fairly
early either. I certainly believe that it kind of stacks
up that way. But I also think that they're going
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to work to establish their run with NAG this year
and and create a balance that they seemingly just have
not had in the last couple of years. And if
they're able to do that and play good defense, it
might be a long wait for Kenny Pickett to get
that start. And not so it doesn't he isn't he
still dealing with the Liz Frank injury. I mean that's
the one that he sprained it. And I gotta be
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honest with you, like that's not one that like gets
better as you heal it. You know, it's almost like
if you sprain your a c L. I mean, you
probably got some micro tears. Like that's not something that oh,
it's just gonna magic. He snapped back together, Like No,
eventually those ligaments get stretched out and they'll just tear
so that That's one of the things that I think
I'm concerned with two in regards to this team in
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the running game, is you know, if he's dealing with
that throughout the course of the season, I think it's
not only gonna be like nagging him throughout the course
of the year, but it might be something where it
gets worse and and they might have to put him
on the shelf for the rest of the season if
they can't run. It's that's then we'll see Kenny Pickett
before sooner than later, if we uh, if we all agree,
it's only a matter of time, Kenny Pickett's gonna start
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for the Steelers game. All right? What can I can
say it? Jonas say it? All right? Can I can?
Everybody's waiting around for this. I mean they all want
to know, all right, from the guy who never played
in the NFL, when is Kenny pick again? His magas
debut as a starting quarterback Week four, Week four against
the New York Jets. They're they're at Cincinnati. They've got
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New England at home after that, and then they're at
Cleveland on a short week and then extra time you
get the Jets that come in. Who the hell knows,
maybe Joe Flacco will still be the starting quarterback for
they're playing that game at home at Pittsburgh. No, what's
the name of the stadium now though, Oh, it's acupuncture Stadium?
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And so can you pick it against the Jet? That's
not really what it's called. What's it called again? Yeah,
it's like it sounds like the drink, like, so, who
drinking acupuncture? Basically? Yeah, that's interesting for all the elderly
folks out there by. Have you guys ever had acupuncture before? Weird?
(27:03):
It's weird feeling, definitely. Am I gonna be judged if
I give you an answer? Good? I'm a believer, man.
I don't know what it is, but you know what
they talked about, like the meridian system and all this
and your body and how like, yeah, I know it
like opens up, I swear I don't. I don't know
if it actually does anything but that that's like the
(27:24):
what the Eastern philosophy. But they'll talk about you know,
with like healing and all that, but they talk about
some meridian system and all these different pain points pressure points.
I swear to you, I think it works, man. I
don't know. I can't tell you why. I mean, maybe
it's a spiritual thing. I don't know, but I just
I think it works. I think you'll try it. When
they were hitting like the trouble areas with with with
(27:46):
the needles and stuff like that, you could feel them
like almost basically like rupturing it or like popping it,
and you could feel like the like like it like
the acid or whatever. It is like dissipating a way.
It's the weirdest deal, man, the way that junk feels.
It's the weirdest deal. But you feel better after, don't you. Oh,
(28:07):
you definitely feel better. But it's pretty intense. Now, is
it like getting a tattoo, you're getting the n or
it's it's because they go a little deeper, like they're
they're like pinpointing different like Q said, they're pinpointing different
pressure points and areas of of you know, I guess
(28:27):
focus when they're doing it, so they'll like tap it
in and then they'll they'll pull it out, they'll start
like jiggling it. So it's not it's not like tattooing
where it's like to like, it's quick. It's going in
and out super super quick, and it's very superficial the
way that that a tattoo. Those tattoo needles are are
jumping in your arm or in your leg or wherever
(28:48):
you're getting it. But but you know, acupuncture is a
little bit more. It's just specified and it's like one.
You know, they might poke more more than one, but
they generally don't because it's an unstanding theory to do,
you know, a whole bunch of poking. But it's it's
just more specific, it's more specialized. I would say, well,
I think we've just identified another difference between Pittsburgh and Cleveland.
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And Pittsburgh they prefer acupuncture. In Cleveland they do massages.
So again, everybody's gotten everybody's that is the game, and
that is the game, by the way, that is the
determining game. That's your second game within the division. And
depending on what they do against the Bengals right out
of the gate um there there there's going to be
(29:33):
a ton of pressure win or lose Ontrabinski um being
the starter of of the Browns game. Okay, can I
put this out there though? What happens? What happens if
we say what is once they're by week eight nine,
week nine? Okay, so let's say week nine. I mean
at that point, I don't think with their schedule, they'll
(29:54):
be too much below five if they don't get off
to a good start. I mean, it's not an easy schedule,
you know, LaVar, you just mentioned it. And they got
to play two of their divisional opponents in the first
three games. You got New England, you got Buffalo, you
got Tampa, you're down in Miami and at Philly. I mean,
all those teams are tough challenges. Let's let's say, for example,
in their first eight games they go three and five.
(30:17):
I mean they might say, with what nine games to play?
Now that we play seventeen games, they might say, like, hey,
let's turn it over to him at the bye two
weeks to prepare. Yeah, you're at three and five. It's
it's somewhere. I think it's somewhere in that vicinity right
like where you say, all right, maybe after as early
as week three, after the Thursday night game. If it's
(30:39):
looking bad like oh and three, or it's it's somewhere where. Hey,
let's get this thing to the bye. Let's reevaluate and
see if it's not Kenny Parts call your shot. All right,
I got week four? You're gonna go with week nine?
Are you going with the bio? I'm gonna say I
don't think he man. It's not an indictment on him either,
like yuyes No, I love Kenny Pickett. I just think
and LaVar has brought it up, like I think they're
(30:59):
gonna give Mitchell Trobinsky more time to see if he's
the guy or not. So I think this thing is
gonna go at least to the by Gor shot foo.
I just I just think that it comes down to
if they're winning and losing. Because again, if if they're losing,
then there's no reason to wait. I mean, like, like
(31:20):
you know, it was just stated if you're at three
and five head into the bye. Uh, why wait? If
if three and five was all he can give you?
Because think of it this way, I think the second
half of the season is much harder, much more difficult,
because you got the Ravens twice um and that second half.
Now you've got some serious teams in the first part,
but you got the Ravens twice, you got the Raiders,
(31:43):
and you got the Browns that that and with Watson,
you know, foreseeably, you know, if nothing happens so Taliban, yeah,
I mean, yeah, yeah, it happened. Happened an hour anyway.
Man towels another man snow shovel, you know what I mean,
you know, or or um ice remover um. Yeah, So
(32:08):
I think that. I think that if they're if they
are if they are some five team, he's literally ice office,
which she was like, what is Dashaun using over there?
It's just this tow it mort you know, he got
(32:29):
that rig cortis chippy. Um. If there are some five
hundred team, and honestly speaking, if there are some five
hundred team before they're bye week, depending on how what
type US up five team they are, will probably dictate.
If Picke gets in, there's a lab that could probably
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take that makes stems. There's so much a whole bunch
of different people you could come from that. Oh man,
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hit on that one big? Like who's gonna like this
isn't gonna try to like get my stuff? Like isn't
that the thought on like Elvis or something? And I
like there's multiple people we think are still alive, right
yea Tupac. You know, by the way, I saw that
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parts of that Elvis movie, I don't even know what
it's called. Man, what a bad movie? Is it? Bad? People?
Like who's the actor? And that didn't he like od
or something? Because he went too deep into the method acting. Yeah,
he like took over Elvis Presley's character too much. What
they say they do well. I've also feel like that's
a convenient excuse, like, oh yeah, I want on a
(37:38):
big bench, started doing a bunch of drugs. It was
just my character don't want I mean Will Smith was
Richard when he slapped I mean he was in the
method of watched King Richard though he was the one
getting slapped. He wanted to, but he was hoping he
was the slapper instead of the slappy. Will Smith made
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it right everyone, Yeah, you know, certainly, method acting is
a bunch of crab. All right, I've been in acting.
It is the most, it is the most. But maybe
that's why you're not acting. No, no, let me tell
you why you couldn't get into the methodology of method. No,
let me tell you something when when you're when you're
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you want to tap the guy in the shoulder and say, hey,
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Is a great Mexican restaurant. Oh what, We're gonna shot
him out, just going to shout him out him out there,
I mean yeah, but I mean wisely like so out
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slowly creeping up. We're getting We're getting real, real close
to the start close season. You guys fired up? Or what? Real? Happy?
Can I be honest with you? I feel like I've
already been fired up. I'm kind of just like, all right,
well let's have a get here, you know, let's let's
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have a get here. College football is already here. True
excited about that. I just I'm I'm trying to be
patient on NFL, but I'm kind of like, manet get
here sooner, Okay, So just get here sooner. Saturday last
this past Saturday was the cherry popper for certain, I
mean for certain, I'm talking about cherries. Um. So I've
(02:40):
already what role with you. I just like it came
by firing, I didn't. I guess, I guess. So I
came in hot, you know. And But but the thing
about it is is this college football season, I think,
for so many different reasons, has created so much more interests,
(03:02):
Like don't you feel like you're super super like? It's
now almost like it hits a feverish pitch of interests,
just like the pros in some aspects, in some regards,
because you're seeing teams build their team in a different
way than they than they ever have so leading into
(03:22):
leading into this upcoming Sunday. And I think you get
a different appreciation of salary caps, of contracts, franchise tags,
free agents. I think you start to really really get
a different appreciation and the understanding of it. At least
for me, this is how I've been approaching the pros
(03:43):
and it's truly based around the fact that now I'm
going to be comparing how college football is doing their
business and how it looks versus what what the National
Football League is doing. I think the product on the
field is going to be the product on the field.
Obviously it's the best of the best. But I'm just
super interested to see how how the NFL, you know,
(04:07):
continues to be innovative, and how they keep their audience
not only captive, but they they they add there, they're
still building there, They're they're following. So I'm pretty excited,
I guess for for other reasons than just the play
on the field. Well, i mean, what all the criticism
Roger Goodell gets. The one thing you have to give
(04:28):
him credit for. He's figured out a way to make
the NFL big business. Like He's figured out different avenues,
whether it's the presentation of the draft, whether it's the
presentation of free agency, like there's an event all year long.
He's turned it into a twelve month sport. And then
you're seeing all the money that the TV contracts, the
player contracts, everything increase. He went from a few years
(04:52):
ago Tony Romo couldn't have a Fantasy Football Conference in
Las Vegas to now it's everything is sponsored by a
gambling site or there's gambling integrated into some of the
conversations and the broadcast. So I just I think the
NFL has figured out a way to turn this into
a profitable sport, more so than any other sport in
the country. And college football feels like they're following the
(05:13):
same path. And now they're just having to address some
of the concerns that people have for are these players
going to get a piece of some of this revenue?
And it feels like leaves are heading in that direction.
What's fascinating about it is um and I think it
was Front Office Sports that came out with this figure
that they've talked about the expanded playoff, which is just
twelve teams. Okay, two billion dollars, that's what they said
(05:34):
it could be worth. And you start you start comparing numbers,
and you're going, wait a second, this is pretty comparable
in the NFL right now. I mean, and and you're
talking about the NFL for four team team playoff, college
football is twelve. They could generate two billion dollars off
that the Big Ten just went for one point four
billion dollars per year. I mean not saying that the
(05:57):
rest of the conferences are going to get that, but
you start adding up the numbers, you're like, hold on
a second, this is actually pretty close to one another.
And I was thinking about this the other day. You know,
there's a lot of people who are against expansion of
the college football playoff, and they've got a bunch of
different reasons for it. I mean, some people will say, hey,
it's going to diminish the regular season. I would tend
(06:17):
to argue it won't um in part because you know,
those rivalries are always going to exist. You know, we
talked to Albert Brere earlier this year about, hey, would
you rather be Michigan right, but not win a national
championship or lose to Michigan but still win the national championship?
And he's like, you know, after this past year, probably
beat Michigan. And there's a lot of people who probably
(06:40):
feel that way. It's crazy, but you know, the rivalries
are still gonna be there, and it's not going to
diminish those rivalries because you're still gonna be playing for
your conference championship. You're still gonna be playing for seeding,
like We always talk about that when it comes time
for the NFL playoffs, how important it is to be
the number one overall seed now because that's the only
team that gets a I or home field advantage. All
(07:02):
those things are still going to matter, and even more
so in the college football playoff format, and it won't
diminish the regular season in part because you've got more spots,
more teams are actually playing for me meaningful games down
the stretch, like your I mean, you could be a
ten and two team and still make it, depending on
what your record is, because there's all these thoughts that well, again,
(07:25):
if you expand it, you know, it's not really gonna
matter as much as far as the nonconference games you schedule.
Yes it will, because if you're a team that scheduled
a tough nonconference schedule and you're a ten and two team,
they might say, well, hey, you're still gonna make it.
You know, you play those two teams close, we think
you're one of the top twelve in the country, or
we think you should get an at large bid. All
those things are still gonna matter. So I would argue
(07:47):
that the exact opposite of that, like it's only going
to enhance the regular season because more teams get to,
you know, be able to be a part of it.
I mean, I said yesterday, look is the best way
to determine our our national champion? I don't know. I
I tend to think a playoff format is it's just
can't get too crazy and too big. You know, I'm
not a I'm not a fan of sixty four. I
(08:08):
think sixteen teams probably makes the most sense. But I mean,
it's it's getting pretty close to LaVar's point. Like when
you start looking at the NFL and college football, that
does seem like they're now like driving parallel along similar highways.
It's just the NFL is a little further ahead on
their journey. The other part of it that doesn't make
sense is when, like in the NBA, if you're a
(08:29):
team that's fighting for the last playoff spot, it probably
would be better for future purposes if you just go
ahead and make the lottery. Like you get into the
draft lottery, your chances of getting the number one picker slim,
but at least you'll have a better opportunity and a
better player. That doesn't exist in college football. So if
I'm a college football team and I got an opportunity
to get the twelve seed, even though it's a long shot.
(08:51):
I'm even gonna win one game, let alone win three
to be a national champion. I want that opportunity. I
want an opportunity to go play because there is no lottery,
there's no draft, there's no benefit for me not making
the playoffs. Look at when the NFL expanded to seven teams.
Remember last year, wasn't it Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Indianapolis that
we're all vying for that final spot And it was
(09:12):
crazy the last week of the season, and all of
a sudden, Penn Roethlisberger's in the playoffs, like like like,
Pittsburgh got that final playoff spot over Baltimore, and the
meltdown from the Colts. I just That's why I said yesterday,
I'm having a hard time finding a flaw with the
college football playoff expansion. And for the people that are
still upset about it, get your head out of your ass.
(09:33):
This was gonna head in this direction anyways. There was
too much money on the line to your point two
billion for twelve teams. There was way too much money
on the line for not getting to this point. Sorry, man,
I think the thing that bothers to be the most
about the narrative. There's some people who are like, like,
they don't they don't like the fourth team playoffs. They
always could go back to the PCs. You know, look
at the semifinals games, they're all blowouts. Like, dude, we're
(09:55):
not going backwards, Like like, this isn't that We're not
going back to the BCS model. Okay, you know, maybe
if you want to say ranking the teams with the
BCS model probably made more sense, that's fine, But we're
not going back to the New Year's six with two
teams playing off for the national championship. We go back
(10:16):
to pay phones. Please. It's like, that's that's not happening.
And and the other thing is I think people get
upset because they're like, well, you know, college football has
always been a regional sport about the regular season and stuff.
It's like, well, look, in order to bring college football
to be the number two sport, if you will, I
mean still under the umbrella of football, but in order
(10:39):
to make it that number two sport in America, which
it is. It's crazy to think, but it is. It's
the number two sport, you have to continue to grow
and expand. If you don't, you become baseball, You become
America's pastime. You hit a platzau where it's like, well,
I couldn't figure out how to continue to keep growing
the game. You just you never could have. You never
(11:00):
could figure out a way to make it bigger and better.
That's what's happening with college football. They're taking what was
once viewed as a regional product and you're making it
a national product. And in order to do so, there
has to be changes. There has to be more money
and revenue generated, which is what's happening. And that's a
good thing. It's not a bad thing. You know, when
(11:21):
when we talked about the n c A basketball tournam
which originally started out as eight teams, you know, then
eventually you know, through like what the sixties and seventy
five was like twenty five teams and then eventually got
but during that whole period and every had everything to
do with money, Like they had to expand in order
to continue to grow the sport. And that actually is
(11:43):
the number one money maker for the n c a
A is the n c A tournament. Like that's what
just driven all the revenue for the n c A
tournament for years, and so in order to become like
what I think college football can become and to actually,
you know, be driving side by side next to the NFL,
they have to grow and expand they have to do
(12:03):
these sorts of things to keep paced. At least in
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this might take the cake. So we will get into
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here on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on
Fox Sports Radio. So, Mike Tomlin, the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach,
a lot of people speculated this is where we were
(13:31):
headed and that Mitch Drabinsky was going to be the
starting quarterback for the Steelers coming up week one this Sunday,
and Mike Tomlin, the Steelers head coach, he confirmed it yesterday.
Mr Bisky is our starting quarterback and our captain man.
We just really comfortable with what Mitch has shown us.
He's a guy that came to us with with franchise
(13:52):
quarterback experience, if you will. He's comfortable in those shoes.
He's been the focal point of a football team in
the organization before, he's had success in doing so. Now,
one of the things that people were wondering because they
are taking on the Bengals of defending a f C
Champs this Sunday in Cincinnati, is I mean, you know
how all of a sudden, Kenny Pickett, that's what you
(14:15):
were wondering. Well, in twenty four hours, Kenny Pickett went
from third on the depth chart to number two, and
Mike Tomlin had an explanation for that, so he spoke
yesterday about what went wrong with the depth chart. It
was a clerical error, you know. Um, that's how the
depth chart was listed at the start of training camp.
So the cutting paste component was the cutting paste component.
(14:35):
I know you were hoping for a little bit more
colorful explanation, but it is what it is. That's what happened.
I'm sorry, a cutting paste so fire like, what does
that even mean? So fire? Well, like the Xerox machine
with the white out didn't didn't work. That was a
cutting day. Is that what we've gotten the apparently apparently
(15:00):
didn't apply cutting paste to that because that was probably
as he kind of alluded to, what what the depth
chart was coming into training camp, so maybe they didn't
even attempt to cut and paste on on that position group.
But he did say he was going to do it
at his leisure though he did say that. He did
say that, He did say that it's just that leisure
(15:22):
is coming to a point out there. I guess so,
I mean he might still be on his leisure. I mean,
who's to say that, you know, today or tomorrow then
you know, can he pick it ends up number one
on the depth chart? You know who knows? It's not
his leisure? I just I think it's hilarious what he
is doing. Do you think he is he just happened
with the media. Is he just breaking balls and or
(15:42):
doesn't feel like I need to give really an explanation,
So let me just go ahead and kind of fart
around with some sort of an excuse. Is that? What
is that? What happens here with when it comes to
Mike Tomlin, Like why why why is he taking this direction?
When it comes to the clerical there, I don't have
to tell you, just uh I waited all this time
Mitch was going to be our star her do you
think he knew well ahead of this point? And then
(16:03):
he just wanted to play the waiting game and say, well, listen,
I don't know these guys anything. All announced the starting
quarterback in the depth chart when I want to announce it,
and I'll do it Tuesday of of game week. He
said it, and you can kiss my ass, guess he
said it. It's just so funny, man, that that that,
and and nobody in the media there, nobody in Pittsburgh
is gonna say a damn thing to Mike Tomlin because
(16:24):
because they don't want to have have to deal with the
repercussions of Mike Tomlin because he's very upfront and he's
going to tell you like it is, and he's going
to play this game however wants to play it, and
they just have to wear it. I love it. I
don't really know what direction you're going here. Here's all
I know is I think this makes the Lesha Mitchell
Trobinsky a lot shorter, super short, like if they were
(16:45):
going to have it where Okay, Kenny Pickett's number three,
Mason Rudolph's number two, You look, yeah, yeah, Like I
kind of said this yesterday, like maybe they felt like
Mason Rudolph's is more of a veteran, He's more prepared
in the case Travisky plays poorly or goes down with
an injury, and then maybe they reevaluate after that week's over.
But now you find yourself in the situation where he's
(17:07):
one play away, and that puts a lot of pressure
on mits Trabinski. Well, I think, at least in my mind,
I'm fully expecting pick it not only to play games,
but to play games early in this season, because I
think it's gonna be hard for the Steelers to overcome
some of the issues on offense. Now they've got a
great wide receiver group, They've invested in their offensive line.
(17:30):
I'm just we kind of got to see that improvement
before I'm able to buy in. And even then, you know,
Trabinsky is gonna have to play at a high level,
because so what you want about Ben Roethlisberger, you know,
he's a future Hall of Famer, and I do think
he's still played at a certain level, certain standard to
at least allow this team to I mean, Mike Tomas
never experienced a losing season, So you know that that's
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also the other thing, the frame of mind that I
think there's an expectation for the fan base with the
quarterback play, but also from Mike Tomlin like he's not
it back there, like, yo, yeah, I'm gonna go through
a losing season just because I want Kenny pick the sit. Huh.
He's gonna play him if he feels like Trabinsky isn't
giving them the best chance to win games or is
it helping them, you know, climate and then make a
playoff runs. So I think this puts even more pressure
(18:15):
on Mr. Robinsky this year and really the clocks starting
on how long ago I should be in that spot.
You know. I was talking to Tyler Vaughan's at at
practice last night and he said that they really really
enjoyed the way Mitch Rabinsky extended to plays, that they
felt like he they were comfortable with the way that
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that he extended the plays and and how he read
the field in terms of delivering balls. And I was like, really,
I was like, you know, Trabinsky, I know he's pretty athletic,
but he was like, yeah, is it. The basically the
common sentiment was we hadn't had that in a few years,
like basically referencing you know, Ben Roethlisberger basically you know,
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had lost that ability to extend the plays the way
that he had did at at the peak of his
you know, the height of his career. So it sounds
as though they're actually pretty high on on Mitch Drabinsky,
and I just wonder, you know, he had success in Buffalo,
you know, the few times that he got an opportunity
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to play, he showed, he showed glimpses of what people
thought that the glimpses were in Chicago and what they
you know, I guess apparently thought they were going to
get more of. But I think we since know that
that Chicago is a very difficult place for for anyone
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right now currently to have a measured level of success.
So I just wonder if Mitch Trobinsky being in a
stable organization, which is super imperative to a person's opportunity
to have, you know, success, or not. Brady, you know,
I know, you know, you go to a place where
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it's not it's not operating at a high level, you're
left to try to figure a whole lot of things
out on your own. But there's also the element of
things that you just don't have control over. You can't
control the things that the people up top that are
running the organization are controlling, which makes that environment conduce
it to the success that that team may enjoy. And
(20:26):
that could possibly be the opportunity for Mitch Dubiskie in
Pittsburgh to be a quarterback that actually people are like, man, like,
why wasn't he that guy when he was in Chicago.
I'm kind of interested to see how that plays out well.
And Tomlins brought up the mobility several times in the
off season, so I think that's something that he recognized
(20:47):
that to your point, they didn't have with Roethlisberger. And
that was one of Roethlisberger's calling cards, right that he
could extend to play and he could make plays with
this eye. And then yeah, then it was you know,
it got a little bit more difficult, and when you're
playing behind that bad offensive line because they haven't been
able to run the football for years like this, Like
so Roethlisberger like, was it a couple of years ago?
(21:10):
He like the number of attempts, Like he was throwing
the ball way too much because they had no running game.
Because the offensive line has been on a downward spiral
for the past several years. And so now at least
you've got your Binsky who can't extend plays. And when
he was at his best, and Brady knows this in Chicago,
when he was at his best, it was when he
was extending plays and he could go play freely. I
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think if he goes in there and plays well, it's
gonna look pretty bad for your guy, Matt Naggy. Listen.
I'm sorry, listen, your guy, Matt Nagie. It's gonna be
a bad look. I mean, he was there. You know,
a couple of playoff does do anything different than Kenny Pickett,
and they're the same athlete. In that regard, there was
(21:54):
literally a rule that changed in college football because you
out of the athletic is hail to take the SAT
and still stay up and keep running. So here's the
only other thing I'll point out is, you know, none
of it's been live outside of the preseason, which there's
been a few instances of Trabinsky scrambling and extending to play,
(22:17):
but there's been a couple where you're like, oh no,
that was not the result you're hoping for out of it.
One one in particularly almost threw a pick. It was
a terrible play. I get pulled up from one of
the first preseason games. But you know, I don't view
them they're really any different as far as the ability
to run, extend plays and all that. I think Pitt
fans will tell you based on what they saw from Picket,
So that may be something they're excited about with Trabinsky.
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I just I don't think that's gonna be the determining factor.
I think for Trabinsky, it's gonna be consistency as far
as accurate throws and consistent, consistently being able to play
at a high level and not turning the football over.
Like that's gonna be the next thing that doesn't put
their defense in a tough spot as good as they are,
not stressing them too much because otherwise, again, are those
(23:00):
the concerns you have with the young quarterback? How consistent
are they gonna be? Are they gonna take care of
the football. If those are the things you're still worried
about with Mitch Trobiscu, it's like, we'll play the young
guy then. So I just I think it's a matter
of time, honestly, because it's a tough division. Um, they
don't have an easy schedule, and you know, as talented
as the wide receiver group is around them, they probably
want their quarterback to have some ability to extend blaze
(23:22):
because it's what the game calls for. Now, Like that's
that special element that most quarterbacks need to have. But
it's also a necessity with the way their offensive line
play has been of late. So, um, well, we'll see
how it plays out. I think it's the experience, you know,
I think and you kind of are alluding to it.
I think it's the only really, the only thing that
separates the two is experience. And you and I both
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know when you come out of that preseason it is
a totally different game when you get in regular season
because now they're scheming you, you know, and and so
with that being said, you know, can Kenny pick it
come into the regular season when a defensive coordinator looking
at what it is that he did at the college level,
you know, obviously not enough you know, regular season film
(24:08):
on him, uh to to say all right, this is
what we're gonna get. You're gonna get tendencies off of
what he did in the preseason. But you don't have
a whole lot of film on him, but you don't
have a whole lot of experience if your picket in
terms of understanding what's about to come your way, um
as a quarterback that's about to be schemed against and
your team being schemed against. And I probably would say
(24:31):
that would most likely be the biggest concern. And that's
for any rookie right at any position, let alone the
most important position on the field. So you know, for me,
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up playing fairly
early either. I certainly believe that it kind of stacks
up that way. But I also think that they're going
(24:51):
to work to establish their run with NAG this year
and and create a balance that they seemingly just have
not had in the last couple of years. And if
they're able to do that and play good defense, it
might be a long wait for Kenny Pickett to get
that start. And not so it doesn't he isn't he
still dealing with the Liz Frank injury. I mean that's
the one that he sprained it. And I gotta be
(25:14):
honest with you, like that's not one that like gets
better as you heal it. You know, it's almost like
if you sprain your a c L. I mean, you
probably got some micro tears. Like that's not something that oh,
it's just gonna magic. He snapped back together, Like No,
eventually those ligaments get stretched out and they'll just tear
so that That's one of the things that I think
I'm concerned with two in regards to this team in
(25:35):
the running game, is you know, if he's dealing with
that throughout the course of the season, I think it's
not only gonna be like nagging him throughout the course
of the year, but it might be something where it
gets worse and and they might have to put him
on the shelf for the rest of the season if
they can't run. It's that's then we'll see Kenny Pickett
before sooner than later, if we uh, if we all agree,
it's only a matter of time, Kenny Pickett's gonna start
(25:58):
for the Steelers game. All right? What can I can
say it? Jonas say it? All right? Can I can?
Everybody's waiting around for this. I mean they all want
to know, all right, from the guy who never played
in the NFL, when is Kenny pick again? His magas
debut as a starting quarterback Week four, Week four against
the New York Jets. They're they're at Cincinnati. They've got
(26:20):
New England at home after that, and then they're at
Cleveland on a short week and then extra time you
get the Jets that come in. Who the hell knows,
maybe Joe Flacco will still be the starting quarterback for
they're playing that game at home at Pittsburgh. No, what's
the name of the stadium now though, Oh, it's acupuncture Stadium?
(26:40):
And so can you pick it against the Jet? That's
not really what it's called. What's it called again? Yeah,
it's like it sounds like the drink, like, so, who
drinking acupuncture? Basically? Yeah, that's interesting for all the elderly
folks out there by. Have you guys ever had acupuncture before? Weird?
(27:03):
It's weird feeling, definitely. Am I gonna be judged if
I give you an answer? Good? I'm a believer, man.
I don't know what it is, but you know what
they talked about, like the meridian system and all this
and your body and how like, yeah, I know it
like opens up, I swear I don't. I don't know
if it actually does anything but that that's like the
(27:24):
what the Eastern philosophy. But they'll talk about you know,
with like healing and all that, but they talk about
some meridian system and all these different pain points pressure points.
I swear to you, I think it works, man. I
don't know. I can't tell you why. I mean, maybe
it's a spiritual thing. I don't know, but I just
I think it works. I think you'll try it. When
they were hitting like the trouble areas with with with
(27:46):
the needles and stuff like that, you could feel them
like almost basically like rupturing it or like popping it,
and you could feel like the like like it like
the acid or whatever. It is like dissipating a way.
It's the weirdest deal, man, the way that junk feels.
It's the weirdest deal. But you feel better after, don't you. Oh,
(28:07):
you definitely feel better. But it's pretty intense. Now, is
it like getting a tattoo, you're getting the n or
it's it's because they go a little deeper, like they're
they're like pinpointing different like Q said, they're pinpointing different
pressure points and areas of of you know, I guess
(28:27):
focus when they're doing it, so they'll like tap it
in and then they'll they'll pull it out, they'll start
like jiggling it. So it's not it's not like tattooing
where it's like to like, it's quick. It's going in
and out super super quick, and it's very superficial the
way that that a tattoo. Those tattoo needles are are
jumping in your arm or in your leg or wherever
(28:48):
you're getting it. But but you know, acupuncture is a
little bit more. It's just specified and it's like one.
You know, they might poke more more than one, but
they generally don't because it's an unstanding theory to do,
you know, a whole bunch of poking. But it's it's
just more specific, it's more specialized. I would say, well,
I think we've just identified another difference between Pittsburgh and Cleveland.
(29:11):
And Pittsburgh they prefer acupuncture. In Cleveland they do massages.
So again, everybody's gotten everybody's that is the game, and
that is the game, by the way, that is the
determining game. That's your second game within the division. And
depending on what they do against the Bengals right out
of the gate um there there there's going to be
(29:33):
a ton of pressure win or lose Ontrabinski um being
the starter of of the Browns game. Okay, can I
put this out there though? What happens? What happens if
we say what is once they're by week eight nine,
week nine? Okay, so let's say week nine. I mean
at that point, I don't think with their schedule, they'll
(29:54):
be too much below five if they don't get off
to a good start. I mean, it's not an easy schedule,
you know, LaVar, you just mentioned it. And they got
to play two of their divisional opponents in the first
three games. You got New England, you got Buffalo, you
got Tampa, you're down in Miami and at Philly. I mean,
all those teams are tough challenges. Let's let's say, for example,
in their first eight games they go three and five.
(30:17):
I mean they might say, with what nine games to play?
Now that we play seventeen games, they might say, like, hey,
let's turn it over to him at the bye two
weeks to prepare. Yeah, you're at three and five. It's
it's somewhere. I think it's somewhere in that vicinity right
like where you say, all right, maybe after as early
as week three, after the Thursday night game. If it's
(30:39):
looking bad like oh and three, or it's it's somewhere where. Hey,
let's get this thing to the bye. Let's reevaluate and
see if it's not Kenny Parts call your shot. All right,
I got week four? You're gonna go with week nine?
Are you going with the bio? I'm gonna say I
don't think he man. It's not an indictment on him either,
like yuyes No, I love Kenny Pickett. I just think
and LaVar has brought it up, like I think they're
(30:59):
gonna give Mitchell Trobinsky more time to see if he's
the guy or not. So I think this thing is
gonna go at least to the by Gor shot foo.
I just I just think that it comes down to
if they're winning and losing. Because again, if if they're losing,
then there's no reason to wait. I mean, like, like
(31:20):
you know, it was just stated if you're at three
and five head into the bye. Uh, why wait? If
if three and five was all he can give you?
Because think of it this way, I think the second
half of the season is much harder, much more difficult,
because you got the Ravens twice um and that second half.
Now you've got some serious teams in the first part,
but you got the Ravens twice, you got the Raiders,
(31:43):
and you got the Browns that that and with Watson,
you know, foreseeably, you know, if nothing happens so Taliban, yeah,
I mean, yeah, yeah, it happened. Happened an hour anyway.
Man towels another man snow shovel, you know what I mean,
you know, or or um ice remover um. Yeah, So
(32:08):
I think that. I think that if they're if they
are if they are some five team, he's literally ice office,
which she was like, what is Dashaun using over there?
It's just this tow it mort you know, he got
(32:29):
that rig cortis chippy. Um. If there are some five
hundred team, and honestly speaking, if there are some five
hundred team before they're bye week, depending on how what
type US up five team they are, will probably dictate.
If Picke gets in, there's a lab that could probably
(32:49):
take that makes stems. There's so much a whole bunch
of different people you could come from that. Oh man,
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hit on that one big? Like who's gonna like this
isn't gonna try to like get my stuff? Like isn't
that the thought on like Elvis or something? And I
like there's multiple people we think are still alive, right
yea Tupac. You know, by the way, I saw that
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parts of that Elvis movie, I don't even know what
it's called. Man, what a bad movie? Is it? Bad? People?
Like who's the actor? And that didn't he like od
or something? Because he went too deep into the method acting. Yeah,
he like took over Elvis Presley's character too much. What
they say they do well. I've also feel like that's
a convenient excuse, like, oh yeah, I want on a
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big bench, started doing a bunch of drugs. It was
just my character don't want I mean Will Smith was
Richard when he slapped I mean he was in the
method of watched King Richard though he was the one
getting slapped. He wanted to, but he was hoping he
was the slapper instead of the slappy. Will Smith made
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it right everyone, Yeah, you know, certainly, method acting is
a bunch of crab. All right, I've been in acting.
It is the most, it is the most. But maybe
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let me tell you something when when you're when you're
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guy who's wearing army fatigue because he's got to play
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and there's a Crumby Mexican restaurant right over there. You're
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not actually in num You're not You're not in Vietnam.
Put it away and just like a normal human beings.
Is a great Mexican restaurant. Oh what, We're gonna shot
him out, just going to shout him out him out there,
I mean yeah, but I mean wisely like so out
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