June 7, 2022 • 38 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys celebrate Brady Quinn’s brother-in-law Jack Johnson and the Colorado Avalanche sweeping the Oilers to advance to the Stanley Cup Final. They also lament the music of hacky-sack rock artist Jack Johnson and explain how the Rams were able to make Aaron Donald the highest paid non-QB in NFL history. And ‘In Case You Missed It,’ Pat Riley runs it back with his wife, Ryan Fitzpatrick reveal where he felt most at home in his 17-year career and the 2023 College Football Hall of Fame ballot is announced.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington Brady Quinn Jonas knocks. Coming up on this
Tuesday edition, somebody in the NFL gets paid and rightfully
so We're also gonna have the very latest on the
Deshaun Watson situation again, it continues to get worse and
worse for the Browns and the NFL. We've got some
breaking news involving hundreds of millions of dollars in the
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world of sports, and somebody on this show is headed
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How are we feeling here on a Tuesday. How we're
feeling Yeah? Awesome? Yeah with the sweep, Yeah, the brooms out? Sweet. Yeah.
Now we gotta make lightning, have to do it. We
gotta make plans. Well, does it another side now? Yeah?
Jack Jonathan the brother in law Brady Quinn. Want to
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go see the Avalanche playing Florida and Tampa. Yeah, I
mean it would be nice because I can drive across
to see that and then I can fly out to
Denver to see that. But either way, baby, I'm going
to a Cup game. Yea, it's gonna be so fun.
That's pretty cool to have cool family like that, man,
you know, and that are doing a whole lot in life.
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You know. The cool thing about it is it's it's
it's sports, but it's it's still so different, like the
feeling towards hockey and just how often they play. It's
still a physical sport and so you can relate to
a lot of those things. But um, even just the
way the playoffs are how long and drawing out the
the you know, the Stanley Cup playoffs are it's a
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it's a long process. And you know, for for Jack Johnson, um,
you know, my brother in law and knowing his story,
he's been at this for so long. I mean he
played his one thousand regular season game this year and
and now finally have the chance to play for one
and win one. Like it's just it's an incredible moment
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for him. And and thinking about he made the team
via a tryout, I mean, it's one of the it's
one of the all time like awesome stories in my
mind in hockey for everything that I think that's happened
in his life, but also just now this opportunity to
to be at the pinnacle of that sport. You know
what I think is again I gotta revisit this. It's
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like when you guys have family outings or dinners, your
parents have to be like beaming with like pride and
and and just like you know, we did something right,
Like what like what are y'alls like, I don't want
to say what are y'all sit around the table conversations like,
but it's like, oh, my brother in law happens to
be Jack and and a J Like you know, we're
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gonna go sit outside and have a conversation, like it's
got to be the coolest thing that's you know what,
I'll get this, I'll pick this tab up. Like it's like, okay,
who's picking the tab up? We're all out eating, Like, uh,
well we'll go Dutch. Nobody ever, you know, it's not
that go to church and I gotta go to the
restroom when the when the collection plate comes out, or
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it just seems that's anybody that just sounds amazing. I
mean they're successful. Like you know, when you've done things
where you're successful, you don't really have to talk about
it in money terms. You talk about it and like,
you know, I think that's pretty cool, man. Look like
Lavaria Lavars talked about it from like a cool perspective,
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and then Jonas and yeah, I'm just saying it is.
Uh you know you want to sit here and and
blow beate LaVar about how great this is and man
beaming with pride. And first first, alright, let's call it
that is this is not an opportunity for all of us,
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and couldn't we all go to a Stanley Cup game
and take the show there. Let's go It just feel
the same though, like that's your brother. Like and if
you it's like you throw then in law in there
because that's what you're supposed to do because that's the
proper terminology. But let's just be clear here, right, it's
almost like your your wife like or puts you like
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this extended family becomes like more like family than your
regular family. Like you're probably closer with a J and
Jack than you are with your sisters. Like that's how
I am, Like, I'm more I'm closer to my brother
in law than I probably am to my real brothers.
And and it's kind of weird, so I don't even
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call him a brother in law. He's like, that's my
my kid brother, Like that's what he is. It's just
the weirdest thing. But I mean, I just think that
that's cool. Like I think that that's really cool, like
even if it was like in a different genre, but
the fact that they all play sports and and they're
successful sports guys, because I think the dopest dudes are
sports guys, even if they go into other other things
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in life. So anyways, I'm just having I'm in my mind.
I have three daughters, I have, I have two sons,
I already have a son that's old enough where he's
probably with the person he's gonna marry. I think she's super,
super awesome, super dope, and it's like, man, I gotta
do it four more times. Like my youngest is the youngest,
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she's six. But it's still like I'm to the age
now where I hear stories like this and it's it's weird.
I'm now thinking about it as the parents, not even
so much as as the brother or or you know what. Ever,
maybe in the scenario, I'm looking at it from a
parent's point of view. So anyway, I mean, let me
have my moment. I'm not trying to Will be there too,
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just to sprinkle, you know, his little talk. It's like
it's just let's let's break this down. You've got Brady
Quinn uh first round traffic in the NFL, UM you know,
all the credentials in the world BB star, dabbles in
radio a little bit. And then you've got his wife, Alicia,
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who was an Olympian Okay silver medalist, UM like highest
level you could possibly be at inner sport, a j Hawk,
his brother in law, super Bowl champions Ohio. Didn't you
win a national championship in Ohio State. Do okay, so
there's that is back there. The it is back there, Hayte,
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And I want to hear your family's resumetion. Jack Johnson,
his brother in law is now going into the Stanley Cup. Dude,
share the share the thing well, like, well, I just
want one can get one? Question is did we miss anything?
Did we did we miss what else? What else? What
other credentials we got here? Oh? Dad is a military hero,
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all right, and he's got one of the dopest nicknames
ever in the history of nicknames ever. Just Chopper. I know,
no last name needed, just Chopper. It's unbelievable. The better
part about him is he calls everyone else Chopper, like
everyone that's that's yeah, but but there's there's brilliance to it.
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Think about it, like if anyone everyone identifies you as
Chopper and everyone's gonna call you Chopper. The best part
about him calling everyone else Chopper is he never has
to learn anyone by his name. I'm already there. I
call everybody buddy. Everybody buddy. By the way, if you
do that to Jonas, that would trigger him. That's like
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he doesn't like being called but no, he takes that
like everybody, buddy, Hey, buddy, it's consulting buddy. Yeah, although
it's more it's it's more comfortable and calling me by
my first name. That's always uncomfortable when somebody says that
that you're close with and they use your first name,
it's like, what are we doing? Yeah, it's just it's weird,
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but you have Yeah, is it really, Jeremiah, it's not.
I don't let him steer you down the ditch, don't
let him go this direction here, I listen. We we're
all in awe of the of the Zekaya. Yeah, we're all.
We're all in awe of the just the athletic pedigree
that is the Queen households and it's the only one
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that's safe because they're not listening. Right, So look, I
mean I just told me at one time. He's like, well,
you know, He's like, you can pretty much say whatever
you want about the Amish because they're not listening. But
somebody's going to tell them. Somebody that they're friends with
is going to walking by and tell them, Like, man,
I know y'alln't listen to the radio, but the radio
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dudes was making fun of y'all today. Man, let me
tell you something. You want to see an amish guy
freak out. Somebody goes send a pigeon or a raven complains.
You want to see an amish guy freak out. Turn
a light on, he loose their mind? But what he
is that? And it plugs into a wall and turns
on the hell we got going on here? But uh,
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congratulations Jack Johnson. Onto the Stanley Cup, and now we
need to start. I mean, that's the point of all
of this right now, show us. Would there be odds
already for them versus either the Rangers or Tampa. I mean,
I don't know if there's odds on on either or
But we can't. Let me go ahead and just vamp
here a little bit. Talk more about could we get
lead to lap our executive producers? What do I ask
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to look up? Leave get stressed out? I mean many
things weren't up yet for the match TV ratings. I'm
still not up yet. It's over a week. By the way,
I do have the odds for the favorite to win
the Stanley Cup. Colorado is an overwhelming favorite minus two
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everybody else. The Rangers in the Lightning are a plus
four d and a plus five hundred So basically, Jack
Johnson is getting fitted for a ring, and the best
part is that means people will stop talking about the
other Jack Johnson that that plays at hippie rock. Now
we can focus on the real Jack Johnson. Brother in
law Brady Quinno is gonna get Johnson a boxing boxer historically.
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Isn't that like? Yeah, yeah, but have you bar have
you heard who he's talking about? The singer? No, Like,
I feel like you gotta play of a song or
two at some point that's it's camp fire hackey sack
music rock. Yeah, not even it's not Is that not
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as cool as you rock? Or is it better than
yacht rock? I mean some fires camp fires are really good. Yeah,
I'll do a camp fire clown every night on get
his best snaps, by the ways, by a campfire face
down dress next to it. I wouldn't go into camp fires.
It's more, um maybe maybe hippie music is what I'm
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telling you. Some people call reggae hippie music, and that's
like kind of It's not that though, Like I would
be curious to hear LaVar, listen to it and then
get his opinion on. So we'll play a little Jack
Johnson and get to feedback here. But it is U
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Heart Radio Past the Banjo and the Cheap Rum. It's
definitely tree hugger music. I like it though, Well what
do you just call it tree hugger? Yeah, that's tree
hugging music. I mean it's like this is like free
free music, free people music. Yeah, free people like free
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like you know, like you know, walk around with no
shoes on, or have like a braid in your hair
with with a bead in it. You know. They play this.
They play this at like ad one of these times,
He's gonna get a dump. J j r J. Is
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that a dump? This is the music that they play
at the end of the night at like a tiki
bar somewhere on a beach in Hawaii. Actually they do
last call at like eight pm. That's when they play this.
No that played this the whole time. This is a
whole like this is a live band type of field.
Like you go sit down, you have drinks, you you're
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eating at like one of those like ocean air type
of places and they play this type of music. It
just makes you It's just it's like relaxing. Yeah, I mean,
Jonas doesn't want to relax or field good. So I
can see why it doesn't like it because I'm looking
to get checked up in the morning. Man, I don't
want to fall asleep to this snooze fest. Uh, you
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know it just want to rock, you know, maybe you
just want to cruise into work, you know, kind of
glide into the day. It's it's it's it's borderline cheesy
to your point, Jonas, but it's it's like it's not
all the it's not there far enough where I wouldn't
enjoy this if I was sitting there having a cigar
in front of my my fire. Well, let me tell
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you this. Uh, after hearing this sort of music. And
for those of you listening on the podcast, I'm just saying,
keep walking into the podcast water know we're listening to
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You know who I guaranteed doesn't listen to Hackey sack
rock and didn't hacky sack whatever you call it. Uh
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yeah maybe. First of all, I've never really seen too
many people hacky sacking out here on in California. For one. Yeah,
you guys skate. You guys are skaters. Now, I will
give you all that. The way y'all skate skateboards out
here is way different. It's way it's real, smooth, like,
real laid back everybody to like you. I've seen homeless
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people skate like not to say that they wouldn't know
how to skate skateboards or anything. But I mean they
might not have anything else, but they got their eight
board and naked skate I'll tell you that even Yep,
it's probably did that go over the air. It should
have because it was it was relevant. Um skateboards probably
on skateboard way more aggressively on the East Coast. Skateboard
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is probably uncomfortable in the sleeping bag, though I would
say so, I don't know. I mean it might be
good for their back, yeah, okay, I don't know. All
I'm saying is all I'm saying is is that hackey sack.
You guys cannot deem hacky sack music because I've I've
literally maybe seen three times since I've lived here people
hacky sack. I'm gonna get you a hackey sack. I
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got one right here. They let me get it for
you that it's in my bag, it's in you, it's
in your pants now what okay? Right? Right, Well that's
where you start reaching for your pocket, I mean my bag.
There you go, Okay, bag got out of control and
out of context. You think Aaron Donald ever kicked a
hackey sack around, because if because if he did, uh
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something could get a whole lot of them. Because Aaron
Donald got paid we throughout the thirty million dollar markus
kind of you know, maybe this is what it's going
to take to get it done. And now he becomes
the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history thirty plus
million dollars. Now, I don't know, I don't look. I'm
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not great at the salary cap because the numbers just
I don't know what I'm looking at because I can't
relate to it. How How are the Rams able to
figure out a way to just continue to pay these
guys what they're paying them and still get under the
cap and then go into next year with a completely
different look as opposed to what the alternative would have
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been with Aaron Donald possibly retiring and them trying to
figure out how they fill that void, which is almost impossible.
How are the Rams able to pull this off? Signing bonuses? Baby?
And then now what you see teams do is they
actually so so this was looked at and it wasn't
really an extension. It was just what the remaining three
years he had on his deal. They just restructured it
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to pay them more. And how do they pay them more?
They paid them more via a signing bonus, and then
what they did is they attached on. And a lot
of teams are doing this. It's it's almost a loophole
that if I was a small market team that didn't
have a lot of cash, right like the since Nati
Bengals family owned team doesn't have a lot of cash,
Pittsburgh Steelers family owned team, they don't like giving a
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lot of signing bonuses in cash. I would I would
look at trying to close this loophole because what teams
do is they essentially put on avoidable years on the
back end of these contracts. So even though Aaron Donald
had three years left on his deal and any basically said, look,
I'm you know, unless you're gonna pay me more, I'm
not gonna come back. I'm just gonna retire. I've done
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everything I need to do at this point in my career.
And they went hadn't paid him. So he's back. But
they took the last three years of his deal and
they restructured the money. So he's gonna receive I think,
you know, close to nine in that three year time,
you know, over sixty of it in the next two years.
So his average annual value that a A V. You'll see,
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that's gonna be the highest ever we've seen for anyone
besides a quarterback. Uh And I'll get back to that
in a second. But what they do is they then
take on the back end of those three years and
they put on two Dumby years. And it's really just
to spread that signing bonus over really a five year
period instead of a three year period. But those two
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extra years I mentioned that they're not there. You've never
seen him, You'll never see him now, you know, they
will count against the RAMS cap in the future years.
So if he's not there, they will count against it then.
But you know, for the for the short term, it
helps them be able to spread that out over that
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period of time to make them, you know, stay under
the cap. So you can do all these things for
Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, for a number of
your stars. But eventually it does get you. But if
if you're if you're standing Crocky, you're flush with cash,
which he is, you can do this. You can sit
there and say I'm just gonna keep paying guys huge
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signing bonuses. Will spread it out over over the course
of the contract and we'll kick the can down the road.
But you also have to hit on some of your
draft picks, which they've done as well, right, so all
that's part of it. I mean, look, the next guy
ups Cooper Cup, they're gonna have to sign him and
figure out what he's gonna do. So um, that's that's
how it's done though. But okay, if I was to
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throw out to you Aaron Donald's value to you, guys,
like who would you pay more? Aaron Donald or Jared Goff? Yeah,
Golf makes more of them still, even after this restructure
that this deal, Golf still makes more, and I would
I wouldn't argue with that, Like I think Aaron Donald
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is that impactful of a player, He's that good of
a player. He should probably be making more than even
some starting quarterbacks out there. I mean, it's like putting
a bear on the football field. I was. I was
watching film on him after the deal came out, Like
it's I watched film on him a lot anyway, because
a lot of the stuff that he does, I try
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to teach it to the kids that that I teach
and train. But I was watching his film and I
was like, you know to see the things that he does,
like how quick his feet are, how quick his hands are,
more importantly, most importantly, how quick his mind works. It's
it's amazing to look at the the intricate details of
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what it is that he does. Where he allows people
to at times put their hands on him before he
does what he's gonna do. Sometimes he doesn't allow you
to put your hands on him at all. Sometimes he
allows for the back the back end of the double team,
like the second guy who's who's hitting him versus the
first guy that he's taking on. Um just how he
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approaches and and handles double teams, how how he approaches
and and handles triple teams. And then you start to
think like, okay, you're looking at his technique. His technique
is so sound, but his ability to put together there's
like there's like a snapshot, a series of snapshots. And
being able to be successful at pass rushing, the feeding blockers,
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being able to get to a quarterback, being able to
get to a running back. There's like a series of snapshots.
One it's like my first steps, Like how many steps
do I take before I start to, you know, make
contact with with a blocker? You know is it one?
Is it? Two? Is it? Three? Steps? What am I
going to do with my hands? What is he going
to do with his hands? What am I going to
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do with my hands? Once he puts his hands out
or counters, what how am I going to counter? But
then you start to realize that his strength is That's
where the whole bear part comes in. Like you could
see a bear walking down the street, and that bear
looks docile, it looks peaceful, doesn't want any drama. But
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if you saw that bear and it had a cup
with it, and you got near it, then you would
realize how strong that bear is. When your head is
rolling down the street and that's Aaron Donald, Like it's
like he puts all of those things together. You look
at him, you would not think that he is as
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strong and as explosive all the as is that he is.
It's just it's it's it's mind blowing to me. It's funny.
I was talking to my my college teammate coached him
in high school, and I was talking to him like, uh,
it's like a little while back and and the idea
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of of what Aaron Donald was even back then and
Pen Hills at pen Hills High. Um. He just he's
always been a different, a different person on the field.
His his approach to it, his his his abilities. You
can't you can teach the techniques, but you can't teach
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what he has. And that's that's it's interesting because you
don't find very many guys, even at the most elite
of of of levels, that had that something different about them,
whether whatever position it maybe. But Aaron Donald, man, it's
just it's it blows you away when you watch him
and he's able to put all of those things together
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and it works. That's the day it works like it's
not it's not a given that your your your fundamentally sound,
you have athletic ability, you have strength, you have all
the things I just named, but it doesn't work like
his stuff works a lot like the majority of the
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time that it's a it's a mind boggling thing. He's
got the ninety eight career sacks right now. If he
just has let's say an average year, which would be
ten sacks, that's gonna put him in the top twenty
five all time in the NF. He's played how many years,
eight years, so that after nine years that's as all
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which hold on for a second, But that doesn't include playoffs, Like, like,
that's one of the things I hate about stats in
the NFL IS. I'd be curious to see if you
could look up quick how many sacks he has in
the playoffs. Put six in the in the playoffs, So
he's already over a hundred years. Think about this though,
the top the top guy is Bruce Smith, by the way,
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as as would you say an undersized d tackle Aaron
sas well? Not not the fact that he's under size.
You're not going to see defensive tackles get many sacks.
He's better than sap, right, It's it's apples and oranges.
But if you're saying who is better, as like, a
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player like Aaron Donald is better than probably everyone except
Reggie White are the only two other defensive players you
could put into with with what he's done the first
eight years, seven time All Pro, first Team All Pro,
three time Defensive Player of the Year, eight time Pro bowler,
like eight time Pro bowler always he just walked in
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the NFL is like Pro Bowls fell out of his pants,
and he's he's already accumulated the stats that how many
games has he missed he saw fourteen earlier in his
career um and he's missed a couple of games here there,
but his numbers already A sad played thirteen years and
had fewer sacks than Aaron Donald so far. I mean,
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all I know is how long did Bruce Smith play for,
like seventeen eighteen years or something like that, twelve third
team If if you take the math of Bruce Smith
getting as a defensive end who pretty much run every
single play, and he got to two hundred sacks. If
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if if if Aaron Donald Donald or to stay on
pace with where he's at right now and played sixteen
years perceivably, and I don't know that he could play
at that level for for that long where he's at
on the field, nineteen years for Bruce, I mean, imagine
if if Aaron Donald goes another eight years, which would
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be sixteen years. I mean, he's right at he's he's what,
he's right at two hundred sacks. The crazy thing is,
I don't think he's going to Yeah, I don't know that.
I don't think he was. I don't know if they's
gonna play past this next you know, two three years span.
I mean that that's what I think the window is
he could if he wanted to. I just don't know
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if he has the desire to the idea of it is, though,
is that I was on the field when Bruce got
that two hundred, like I helped him get it. That's
that's my claim to fame, like one of them. Um,
what do you mean, would you do well? I I
hit Walter Jones high low? No, No, I picked him.
I hit him from the outside. Bruce came off me
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on the stunt and and looped around and and got
got the sack to break the record. Um. But here's
the thing, right, The thing about it is is that
that's a that's a record that if you're if you're
thinking and practicalities, no one will ever come close to
getting it. Marcelli's wildly said it best. He's all, instead
of looking at that record like, well, two career sacks,
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he had twenty sacks and ten seasons, he goes, no, no, no,
imagine he had ten sacks for twenty straight years. He's all,
just think about that production level from Bruce Smith. There
you go. There, it's it's it's it's it's it's not
really realistic to think that anyone will ever break that record,
you know. So to think that there's somebody out there
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that not only would have the capabilities of doing it
if they decided to play long enough to do it,
but the position in which he's doing it from, that's
even more impressive. That's even more that's going to say that.
That's why it's it's it's hard to think that he's
going to for that reason. Yeah, even if he played
that long, it's hard to think he's going to for
that reason. His body's got to be sore. Man, Like
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you get leans. There was a time where I in
college and probably my second and third year in the
pros where literally more often than not, I got double
team and sometimes triple team. I would get the tackle,
I would get the guard, and sometimes I would get
a back all in one play. That are hitting on you,
And I'll tell you right now, your body it starts
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to take a toll on your body. Now, a mosh
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Lab Lab Guys, in case you missed this. Pet Royley
had a news conference yesterday to wrap up the season
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and he was asked this question about running it back
next season. When you're trying to decide of whether to
run it back or if a team need changes to
kind of invigorate the roster, what type of factors going
to that type of the Susan I running back with
my wife every week, you know, and we always come
(31:07):
to good good good good terms and and even if
we ran it back, Uh, we would have a very
good team. Yeah, because someone helped to find what exactly
he meant. Well, he's talking about laying it down like
(31:28):
the hammer. You know, we're going to run it back
every week and that would be a lot. Have you've
been married for a long time? Got pat Riley Brady? Is? He? Is?
He South Beach? Like when you look at pat Riley
to go that's South Beach because he he he's a
(31:50):
vault to look like he's part of it. He's uh,
definitely speaking like he's a part of South Beach. I
mean he's done a tremendous job. I mean I've told
you more like that. That's that's one of the more
stable organizations in the NBA. And I never I hear
people talk about him and give them as much credit
as they deserve. But he looks great for seventy seven
(32:17):
man Sunshine. Have you seen the documentary on magic in
the way they depict him in that that's kind of
like made me look at him differently, Like he was
like this smooth dude ever since l a Lakers, you
know what I mean, slick hair, But they kind of
like they depicted him a little differently. What you mean,
(32:38):
I don't know, like kind of I don't know. He
was ripping Ivy off of his house and had a
big bloody nose from hooping on winning time. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like a weird depiction of him, right because he
seems so smooth and well put together and not not
like the type of dude that you would have thought.
(32:59):
But I mean, that's a long time ago. But here's
the thing about pat Riley. You look at him now
and you go, oh, he's Mr as Smooth. Look at
him at the Lakers. Mr. Smooth, and then you look
at his time with the Knicks. That team wasn't smooth.
That team. That team battered and bruised teams, and his
whole style and approach with the Knicks is what makes
it interesting because it's almost like he was sandwiched between
(33:22):
Mr Smooth, l A and Miami and he's got the
Knicks in between. And the Miami teams actually remind me
a little bit of those Knicks teams in the way
they were built, just how physical they play. That's why
they gave so many people so many problems. So great
commentary saying just breaking it down for that's what I do. Yeah,
(33:43):
you know, it's pertinent to the conversation. You know, somebody
accused us of talking about dust cropping too much. Yesterday.
We talked about it for an entire secment. I enjoyed
it personally. I mean, you talked about your Well, well,
here's what's funny, right, I just I just snarted just now,
(34:04):
like I sneezed, and you know, like how they call them,
you know, the sharks. I did. It was it was
very accidental, but I was just being honest about it.
So thank god, max er Back was very, very strong,
and it just created a god all right, there we go,
There we go, Lee, I've been holding mine because they're
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pretty bad. What are they not bad? It's like a
dueling piano bar, Like it's in here and then it's
in this room. Come on, man, give some of us
a break. Here. People are alright, you guys, In case
you missed this, we all know Ryan Fitzpatrick is retired.
(34:46):
And he announced, uh, you know which team made him
feel most at home out of the nine different NFL
teams he had played with. Can you guess which one
it is? No Jets Tampa Buffalo. There you go, LaVar,
that's right, Buffalo Bills, who he's with for four seasons.
By the way, he got a contract, a pretty nice
(35:06):
contract at the time from the Bills. Um. I was like,
I thought he was gonna be like a main state
for a minute there. Man. He played seventh round draft pick,
was like five or six picks away from not being
drafted at all, and he lasted seventeen years as a quarterback.
What a career. Man. He was the type that like
everyone loved him. Everyone loved him. I mean I remember,
(35:28):
by the way, we went and played him when he
was qubing Buffalo and he came up to meet us,
Like a bunch of us were out from the opposing
team when I was in Kansas City at the time,
but he came out to meet us. Uh set hello,
all that stuff. I mean he was. He was as
cool a dude as you'll find um in that regard.
But he just it was well respected, worked hard, and
when he got his opportunity, man, he was gonna sling
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that thing like he look, he's a seventh round pick.
What did he have to lose. He's got a degree
from Harvard, you know, It's like he's got that fallback
plan and so That's why I like the eight. He
might throw six picks, but he might throw six touch
stocks too. What was it? Was it him? And had
to quote because I think it was against Kansas City
through the six interceptions? And was it him? You were saying?
(36:12):
Had to quote where he said? You know, at some
point it's like, what's another one matter? What doesn't matter,
doesn't matter? It already looks bad, man, But I don't.
I don't think I've ever thrown more than three in
a game. I don't think. But like I remember thinking
to myself, after the first one, you're like, it's hard
to forget. You're upset about it. The second one happens,
then after that you're probably you're probably losing, and so
(36:34):
you're like, okay, now you're in gunslinger moment. And after
the third, just like, all right, I hate this, hate,
I hate doing this. I don't want to throw another one.
But some guys just like, I mean, what's one more?
What's four? What's five? But six? Giving the ball back, guys.
In case you missed this, the two three College Football
Hall of Fame ballot was announced, and it's pretty stacked,
with eighty players, nine coaches, nineteen of them have the
(36:57):
word heisman mentioned in their brief bio. But guess get this,
Reggie Bush was not amongst those. Well he is amongst
the Yeah. I mean, look he's Reggie's gonna get in. Uh,
Tebow is gonna get in. What's interesting about it is,
I think you're eligible what ten years after you you're
done plan or something like that. I mean, both of them,
(37:19):
you could have made a case should have gone in
like right away, but like in Lavarre as you know,
because you're a college football Hall of Famer, Like, there's
a ton of really good players like it is. I
mean there's dudes like I got two Notre Dame guys,
Michael Stonebreaker and um Todd Light and like, dude, he's
a beast, and like he's not in yet and he
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should be. So it's I mean, I think they'll both
get in. The Lewis is in it, I mean he's
not in yet. So again, there's so so many good
players through so many years, like both those two will
get in. But it's it's crazy when you look at it,
and it's a it's quite the accomplishment. Michael Stonebreaker Peter
(38:00):
on that list not in yet. Peter works on on
the list were done. Is on the list He's not in? Yeah,
I mean this is This is a lot of great players, man,
a lot of great players. Brady, what are you getting in?
Come on man, Oh it's gonna be a while mine. Yeah,
it's staring. I'll be six ft under before that appen.
I don't say that. Let's take it a dirt. N
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I got, I gotta, I got a little bit of nowadays,
I'm gonna make sure I put in a good word
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How are we feeling here on a Tuesday. How we're
feeling Yeah? Awesome? Yeah with the sweep, Yeah, the brooms out? Sweet. Yeah.
Now we gotta make lightning, have to do it. We
gotta make plans. Well, does it another side now? Yeah?
Jack Jonathan the brother in law Brady Quinn. Want to
(01:31):
go see the Avalanche playing Florida and Tampa. Yeah, I
mean it would be nice because I can drive across
to see that and then I can fly out to
Denver to see that. But either way, baby, I'm going
to a Cup game. Yea, it's gonna be so fun.
That's pretty cool to have cool family like that, man,
you know, and that are doing a whole lot in life.
(01:51):
You know. The cool thing about it is it's it's
it's sports, but it's it's still so different, like the
feeling towards hockey and just how often they play. It's
still a physical sport and so you can relate to
a lot of those things. But um, even just the
way the playoffs are how long and drawing out the
the you know, the Stanley Cup playoffs are it's a
(02:13):
it's a long process. And you know, for for Jack Johnson, um,
you know, my brother in law and knowing his story,
he's been at this for so long. I mean he
played his one thousand regular season game this year and
and now finally have the chance to play for one
and win one. Like it's just it's an incredible moment
(02:34):
for him. And and thinking about he made the team
via a tryout, I mean, it's one of the it's
one of the all time like awesome stories in my
mind in hockey for everything that I think that's happened
in his life, but also just now this opportunity to
to be at the pinnacle of that sport. You know
what I think is again I gotta revisit this. It's
(02:54):
like when you guys have family outings or dinners, your
parents have to be like beaming with like pride and
and and just like you know, we did something right,
Like what like what are y'alls like, I don't want
to say what are y'all sit around the table conversations like,
but it's like, oh, my brother in law happens to
be Jack and and a J Like you know, we're
(03:17):
gonna go sit outside and have a conversation, like it's
got to be the coolest thing that's you know what,
I'll get this, I'll pick this tab up. Like it's like, okay,
who's picking the tab up? We're all out eating, Like, uh,
well we'll go Dutch. Nobody ever, you know, it's not
that go to church and I gotta go to the
restroom when the when the collection plate comes out, or
(03:40):
it just seems that's anybody that just sounds amazing. I
mean they're successful. Like you know, when you've done things
where you're successful, you don't really have to talk about
it in money terms. You talk about it and like,
you know, I think that's pretty cool, man. Look like
Lavaria Lavars talked about it from like a cool perspective,
(04:02):
and then Jonas and yeah, I'm just saying it is.
Uh you know you want to sit here and and
blow beate LaVar about how great this is and man
beaming with pride. And first first, alright, let's call it
that is this is not an opportunity for all of us,
(04:23):
and couldn't we all go to a Stanley Cup game
and take the show there. Let's go It just feel
the same though, like that's your brother. Like and if
you it's like you throw then in law in there
because that's what you're supposed to do because that's the
proper terminology. But let's just be clear here, right, it's
almost like your your wife like or puts you like
(04:44):
this extended family becomes like more like family than your
regular family. Like you're probably closer with a J and
Jack than you are with your sisters. Like that's how
I am, Like, I'm more I'm closer to my brother
in law than I probably am to my real brothers.
And and it's kind of weird, so I don't even
(05:05):
call him a brother in law. He's like, that's my
my kid brother, Like that's what he is. It's just
the weirdest thing. But I mean, I just think that
that's cool. Like I think that that's really cool, like
even if it was like in a different genre, but
the fact that they all play sports and and they're
successful sports guys, because I think the dopest dudes are
sports guys, even if they go into other other things
(05:26):
in life. So anyways, I'm just having I'm in my mind.
I have three daughters, I have, I have two sons,
I already have a son that's old enough where he's
probably with the person he's gonna marry. I think she's super,
super awesome, super dope, and it's like, man, I gotta
do it four more times. Like my youngest is the youngest,
(05:46):
she's six. But it's still like I'm to the age
now where I hear stories like this and it's it's weird.
I'm now thinking about it as the parents, not even
so much as as the brother or or you know what. Ever,
maybe in the scenario, I'm looking at it from a
parent's point of view. So anyway, I mean, let me
have my moment. I'm not trying to Will be there too,
(06:12):
just to sprinkle, you know, his little talk. It's like
it's just let's let's break this down. You've got Brady
Quinn uh first round traffic in the NFL, UM you know,
all the credentials in the world BB star, dabbles in
radio a little bit. And then you've got his wife, Alicia,
(06:33):
who was an Olympian Okay silver medalist, UM like highest
level you could possibly be at inner sport, a j Hawk,
his brother in law, super Bowl champions Ohio. Didn't you
win a national championship in Ohio State. Do okay, so
there's that is back there. The it is back there, Hayte,
(06:55):
And I want to hear your family's resumetion. Jack Johnson,
his brother in law is now going into the Stanley Cup. Dude,
share the share the thing well, like, well, I just
want one can get one? Question is did we miss anything?
Did we did we miss what else? What else? What
other credentials we got here? Oh? Dad is a military hero,
(07:17):
all right, and he's got one of the dopest nicknames
ever in the history of nicknames ever. Just Chopper. I know,
no last name needed, just Chopper. It's unbelievable. The better
part about him is he calls everyone else Chopper, like
everyone that's that's yeah, but but there's there's brilliance to it.
(07:40):
Think about it, like if anyone everyone identifies you as
Chopper and everyone's gonna call you Chopper. The best part
about him calling everyone else Chopper is he never has
to learn anyone by his name. I'm already there. I
call everybody buddy. Everybody buddy. By the way, if you
do that to Jonas, that would trigger him. That's like
(08:01):
he doesn't like being called but no, he takes that
like everybody, buddy, Hey, buddy, it's consulting buddy. Yeah, although
it's more it's it's more comfortable and calling me by
my first name. That's always uncomfortable when somebody says that
that you're close with and they use your first name,
it's like, what are we doing? Yeah, it's just it's weird,
(08:22):
but you have Yeah, is it really, Jeremiah, it's not.
I don't let him steer you down the ditch, don't
let him go this direction here, I listen. We we're
all in awe of the of the Zekaya. Yeah, we're all.
We're all in awe of the just the athletic pedigree
that is the Queen households and it's the only one
(08:44):
that's safe because they're not listening. Right, So look, I
mean I just told me at one time. He's like, well,
you know, He's like, you can pretty much say whatever
you want about the Amish because they're not listening. But
somebody's going to tell them. Somebody that they're friends with
is going to walking by and tell them, Like, man,
I know y'alln't listen to the radio, but the radio
(09:07):
dudes was making fun of y'all today. Man, let me
tell you something. You want to see an amish guy
freak out. Somebody goes send a pigeon or a raven complains.
You want to see an amish guy freak out. Turn
a light on, he loose their mind? But what he
is that? And it plugs into a wall and turns
on the hell we got going on here? But uh,
(09:27):
congratulations Jack Johnson. Onto the Stanley Cup, and now we
need to start. I mean, that's the point of all
of this right now, show us. Would there be odds
already for them versus either the Rangers or Tampa. I mean,
I don't know if there's odds on on either or
But we can't. Let me go ahead and just vamp
here a little bit. Talk more about could we get
lead to lap our executive producers? What do I ask
(09:52):
to look up? Leave get stressed out? I mean many
things weren't up yet for the match TV ratings. I'm
still not up yet. It's over a week. By the way,
I do have the odds for the favorite to win
the Stanley Cup. Colorado is an overwhelming favorite minus two
(10:12):
everybody else. The Rangers in the Lightning are a plus
four d and a plus five hundred So basically, Jack
Johnson is getting fitted for a ring, and the best
part is that means people will stop talking about the
other Jack Johnson that that plays at hippie rock. Now
we can focus on the real Jack Johnson. Brother in
law Brady Quinno is gonna get Johnson a boxing boxer historically.
(10:32):
Isn't that like? Yeah, yeah, but have you bar have
you heard who he's talking about? The singer? No, Like,
I feel like you gotta play of a song or
two at some point that's it's camp fire hackey sack
music rock. Yeah, not even it's not Is that not
(10:53):
as cool as you rock? Or is it better than
yacht rock? I mean some fires camp fires are really good. Yeah,
I'll do a camp fire clown every night on get
his best snaps, by the ways, by a campfire face
down dress next to it. I wouldn't go into camp fires.
It's more, um maybe maybe hippie music is what I'm
(11:16):
telling you. Some people call reggae hippie music, and that's
like kind of It's not that though, Like I would
be curious to hear LaVar, listen to it and then
get his opinion on. So we'll play a little Jack
Johnson and get to feedback here. But it is U
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(12:00):
Heart Radio Past the Banjo and the Cheap Rum. It's
definitely tree hugger music. I like it though, Well what
do you just call it tree hugger? Yeah, that's tree
hugging music. I mean it's like this is like free
free music, free people music. Yeah, free people like free
(12:24):
like you know, like you know, walk around with no
shoes on, or have like a braid in your hair
with with a bead in it. You know. They play this.
They play this at like ad one of these times,
He's gonna get a dump. J j r J. Is
(12:44):
that a dump? This is the music that they play
at the end of the night at like a tiki
bar somewhere on a beach in Hawaii. Actually they do
last call at like eight pm. That's when they play this.
No that played this the whole time. This is a
whole like this is a live band type of field.
Like you go sit down, you have drinks, you you're
(13:06):
eating at like one of those like ocean air type
of places and they play this type of music. It
just makes you It's just it's like relaxing. Yeah, I mean,
Jonas doesn't want to relax or field good. So I
can see why it doesn't like it because I'm looking
to get checked up in the morning. Man, I don't
want to fall asleep to this snooze fest. Uh, you
(13:26):
know it just want to rock, you know, maybe you
just want to cruise into work, you know, kind of
glide into the day. It's it's it's it's borderline cheesy
to your point, Jonas, but it's it's like it's not
all the it's not there far enough where I wouldn't
enjoy this if I was sitting there having a cigar
in front of my my fire. Well, let me tell
(13:48):
you this. Uh, after hearing this sort of music. And
for those of you listening on the podcast, I'm just saying,
keep walking into the podcast water know we're listening to
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You know who I guaranteed doesn't listen to Hackey sack
rock and didn't hacky sack whatever you call it. Uh
(14:30):
yeah maybe. First of all, I've never really seen too
many people hacky sacking out here on in California. For one. Yeah,
you guys skate. You guys are skaters. Now, I will
give you all that. The way y'all skate skateboards out
here is way different. It's way it's real, smooth, like,
real laid back everybody to like you. I've seen homeless
(14:52):
people skate like not to say that they wouldn't know
how to skate skateboards or anything. But I mean they
might not have anything else, but they got their eight
board and naked skate I'll tell you that even Yep,
it's probably did that go over the air. It should
have because it was it was relevant. Um skateboards probably
on skateboard way more aggressively on the East Coast. Skateboard
(15:14):
is probably uncomfortable in the sleeping bag, though I would
say so, I don't know. I mean it might be
good for their back, yeah, okay, I don't know. All
I'm saying is all I'm saying is is that hackey sack.
You guys cannot deem hacky sack music because I've I've
literally maybe seen three times since I've lived here people
hacky sack. I'm gonna get you a hackey sack. I
(15:35):
got one right here. They let me get it for
you that it's in my bag, it's in you, it's
in your pants now what okay? Right? Right, Well that's
where you start reaching for your pocket, I mean my bag.
There you go, Okay, bag got out of control and
out of context. You think Aaron Donald ever kicked a
hackey sack around, because if because if he did, uh
(15:59):
something could get a whole lot of them. Because Aaron
Donald got paid we throughout the thirty million dollar markus
kind of you know, maybe this is what it's going
to take to get it done. And now he becomes
the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history thirty plus
million dollars. Now, I don't know, I don't look. I'm
(16:20):
not great at the salary cap because the numbers just
I don't know what I'm looking at because I can't
relate to it. How How are the Rams able to
figure out a way to just continue to pay these
guys what they're paying them and still get under the
cap and then go into next year with a completely
different look as opposed to what the alternative would have
(16:41):
been with Aaron Donald possibly retiring and them trying to
figure out how they fill that void, which is almost impossible.
How are the Rams able to pull this off? Signing bonuses? Baby?
And then now what you see teams do is they
actually so so this was looked at and it wasn't
really an extension. It was just what the remaining three
years he had on his deal. They just restructured it
(17:03):
to pay them more. And how do they pay them more?
They paid them more via a signing bonus, and then
what they did is they attached on. And a lot
of teams are doing this. It's it's almost a loophole
that if I was a small market team that didn't
have a lot of cash, right like the since Nati
Bengals family owned team doesn't have a lot of cash,
Pittsburgh Steelers family owned team, they don't like giving a
(17:25):
lot of signing bonuses in cash. I would I would
look at trying to close this loophole because what teams
do is they essentially put on avoidable years on the
back end of these contracts. So even though Aaron Donald
had three years left on his deal and any basically said, look,
I'm you know, unless you're gonna pay me more, I'm
not gonna come back. I'm just gonna retire. I've done
(17:45):
everything I need to do at this point in my career.
And they went hadn't paid him. So he's back. But
they took the last three years of his deal and
they restructured the money. So he's gonna receive I think,
you know, close to nine in that three year time,
you know, over sixty of it in the next two years.
So his average annual value that a A V. You'll see,
(18:08):
that's gonna be the highest ever we've seen for anyone
besides a quarterback. Uh And I'll get back to that
in a second. But what they do is they then
take on the back end of those three years and
they put on two Dumby years. And it's really just
to spread that signing bonus over really a five year
period instead of a three year period. But those two
(18:29):
extra years I mentioned that they're not there. You've never
seen him, You'll never see him now, you know, they
will count against the RAMS cap in the future years.
So if he's not there, they will count against it then.
But you know, for the for the short term, it
helps them be able to spread that out over that
(18:50):
period of time to make them, you know, stay under
the cap. So you can do all these things for
Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, for a number of
your stars. But eventually it does get you. But if
if you're if you're standing Crocky, you're flush with cash,
which he is, you can do this. You can sit
there and say I'm just gonna keep paying guys huge
(19:11):
signing bonuses. Will spread it out over over the course
of the contract and we'll kick the can down the road.
But you also have to hit on some of your
draft picks, which they've done as well, right, so all
that's part of it. I mean, look, the next guy
ups Cooper Cup, they're gonna have to sign him and
figure out what he's gonna do. So um, that's that's
how it's done though. But okay, if I was to
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throw out to you Aaron Donald's value to you, guys,
like who would you pay more? Aaron Donald or Jared Goff? Yeah,
Golf makes more of them still, even after this restructure
that this deal, Golf still makes more, and I would
I wouldn't argue with that, Like I think Aaron Donald
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is that impactful of a player, He's that good of
a player. He should probably be making more than even
some starting quarterbacks out there. I mean, it's like putting
a bear on the football field. I was. I was
watching film on him after the deal came out, Like
it's I watched film on him a lot anyway, because
a lot of the stuff that he does, I try
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to teach it to the kids that that I teach
and train. But I was watching his film and I
was like, you know to see the things that he does,
like how quick his feet are, how quick his hands are,
more importantly, most importantly, how quick his mind works. It's
it's amazing to look at the the intricate details of
(20:39):
what it is that he does. Where he allows people
to at times put their hands on him before he
does what he's gonna do. Sometimes he doesn't allow you
to put your hands on him at all. Sometimes he
allows for the back the back end of the double team,
like the second guy who's who's hitting him versus the
first guy that he's taking on. Um just how he
(21:02):
approaches and and handles double teams, how how he approaches
and and handles triple teams. And then you start to
think like, okay, you're looking at his technique. His technique
is so sound, but his ability to put together there's
like there's like a snapshot, a series of snapshots. And
being able to be successful at pass rushing, the feeding blockers,
(21:27):
being able to get to a quarterback, being able to
get to a running back. There's like a series of snapshots.
One it's like my first steps, Like how many steps
do I take before I start to, you know, make
contact with with a blocker? You know is it one?
Is it? Two? Is it? Three? Steps? What am I
going to do with my hands? What is he going
to do with his hands? What am I going to
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do with my hands? Once he puts his hands out
or counters, what how am I going to counter? But
then you start to realize that his strength is That's
where the whole bear part comes in. Like you could
see a bear walking down the street, and that bear
looks docile, it looks peaceful, doesn't want any drama. But
(22:08):
if you saw that bear and it had a cup
with it, and you got near it, then you would
realize how strong that bear is. When your head is
rolling down the street and that's Aaron Donald, Like it's
like he puts all of those things together. You look
at him, you would not think that he is as
(22:28):
strong and as explosive all the as is that he is.
It's just it's it's it's mind blowing to me. It's funny.
I was talking to my my college teammate coached him
in high school, and I was talking to him like, uh,
it's like a little while back and and the idea
(22:49):
of of what Aaron Donald was even back then and
Pen Hills at pen Hills High. Um. He just he's
always been a different, a different person on the field.
His his approach to it, his his his abilities. You
can't you can teach the techniques, but you can't teach
(23:12):
what he has. And that's that's it's interesting because you
don't find very many guys, even at the most elite
of of of levels, that had that something different about them,
whether whatever position it maybe. But Aaron Donald, man, it's
just it's it blows you away when you watch him
and he's able to put all of those things together
(23:34):
and it works. That's the day it works like it's
not it's not a given that your your your fundamentally sound,
you have athletic ability, you have strength, you have all
the things I just named, but it doesn't work like
his stuff works a lot like the majority of the
(23:55):
time that it's a it's a mind boggling thing. He's
got the ninety eight career sacks right now. If he
just has let's say an average year, which would be
ten sacks, that's gonna put him in the top twenty
five all time in the NF. He's played how many years,
eight years, so that after nine years that's as all
(24:15):
which hold on for a second, But that doesn't include playoffs, Like, like,
that's one of the things I hate about stats in
the NFL IS. I'd be curious to see if you
could look up quick how many sacks he has in
the playoffs. Put six in the in the playoffs, So
he's already over a hundred years. Think about this though,
the top the top guy is Bruce Smith, by the way,
(24:36):
as as would you say an undersized d tackle Aaron
sas well? Not not the fact that he's under size.
You're not going to see defensive tackles get many sacks.
He's better than sap, right, It's it's apples and oranges.
But if you're saying who is better, as like, a
(24:58):
player like Aaron Donald is better than probably everyone except
Reggie White are the only two other defensive players you
could put into with with what he's done the first
eight years, seven time All Pro, first Team All Pro,
three time Defensive Player of the Year, eight time Pro bowler,
like eight time Pro bowler always he just walked in
(25:20):
the NFL is like Pro Bowls fell out of his pants,
and he's he's already accumulated the stats that how many
games has he missed he saw fourteen earlier in his
career um and he's missed a couple of games here there,
but his numbers already A sad played thirteen years and
had fewer sacks than Aaron Donald so far. I mean,
(25:45):
all I know is how long did Bruce Smith play for,
like seventeen eighteen years or something like that, twelve third
team If if you take the math of Bruce Smith
getting as a defensive end who pretty much run every
single play, and he got to two hundred sacks. If
(26:06):
if if if Aaron Donald Donald or to stay on
pace with where he's at right now and played sixteen
years perceivably, and I don't know that he could play
at that level for for that long where he's at
on the field, nineteen years for Bruce, I mean, imagine
if if Aaron Donald goes another eight years, which would
(26:28):
be sixteen years. I mean, he's right at he's he's what,
he's right at two hundred sacks. The crazy thing is,
I don't think he's going to Yeah, I don't know that.
I don't think he was. I don't know if they's
gonna play past this next you know, two three years span.
I mean that that's what I think the window is
he could if he wanted to. I just don't know
(26:48):
if he has the desire to the idea of it is, though,
is that I was on the field when Bruce got
that two hundred, like I helped him get it. That's
that's my claim to fame, like one of them. Um,
what do you mean, would you do well? I I
hit Walter Jones high low? No, No, I picked him.
I hit him from the outside. Bruce came off me
(27:09):
on the stunt and and looped around and and got
got the sack to break the record. Um. But here's
the thing, right, The thing about it is is that
that's a that's a record that if you're if you're
thinking and practicalities, no one will ever come close to
getting it. Marcelli's wildly said it best. He's all, instead
of looking at that record like, well, two career sacks,
(27:32):
he had twenty sacks and ten seasons, he goes, no, no, no,
imagine he had ten sacks for twenty straight years. He's all,
just think about that production level from Bruce Smith. There
you go. There, it's it's it's it's it's it's not
really realistic to think that anyone will ever break that record,
you know. So to think that there's somebody out there
(27:53):
that not only would have the capabilities of doing it
if they decided to play long enough to do it,
but the position in which he's doing it from, that's
even more impressive. That's even more that's going to say that.
That's why it's it's it's hard to think that he's
going to for that reason. Yeah, even if he played
that long, it's hard to think he's going to for
that reason. His body's got to be sore. Man, Like
(28:16):
you get leans. There was a time where I in
college and probably my second and third year in the
pros where literally more often than not, I got double
team and sometimes triple team. I would get the tackle,
I would get the guard, and sometimes I would get
a back all in one play. That are hitting on you,
And I'll tell you right now, your body it starts
(28:38):
to take a toll on your body. Now, a mosh
pit of NFL players trying to stop you every single time,
like I've let have been mosh pit. Yeah, it's not that.
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Lab Lab Guys, in case you missed this. Pet Royley
had a news conference yesterday to wrap up the season
(30:46):
and he was asked this question about running it back
next season. When you're trying to decide of whether to
run it back or if a team need changes to
kind of invigorate the roster, what type of factors going
to that type of the Susan I running back with
my wife every week, you know, and we always come
(31:07):
to good good good good terms and and even if
we ran it back, Uh, we would have a very
good team. Yeah, because someone helped to find what exactly
he meant. Well, he's talking about laying it down like
(31:28):
the hammer. You know, we're going to run it back
every week and that would be a lot. Have you've
been married for a long time? Got pat Riley Brady? Is? He? Is?
He South Beach? Like when you look at pat Riley
to go that's South Beach because he he he's a
(31:50):
vault to look like he's part of it. He's uh,
definitely speaking like he's a part of South Beach. I
mean he's done a tremendous job. I mean I've told
you more like that. That's that's one of the more
stable organizations in the NBA. And I never I hear
people talk about him and give them as much credit
as they deserve. But he looks great for seventy seven
(32:17):
man Sunshine. Have you seen the documentary on magic in
the way they depict him in that that's kind of
like made me look at him differently, Like he was
like this smooth dude ever since l a Lakers, you
know what I mean, slick hair, But they kind of
like they depicted him a little differently. What you mean,
(32:38):
I don't know, like kind of I don't know. He
was ripping Ivy off of his house and had a
big bloody nose from hooping on winning time. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like a weird depiction of him, right because he
seems so smooth and well put together and not not
like the type of dude that you would have thought.
(32:59):
But I mean, that's a long time ago. But here's
the thing about pat Riley. You look at him now
and you go, oh, he's Mr as Smooth. Look at
him at the Lakers. Mr. Smooth, and then you look
at his time with the Knicks. That team wasn't smooth.
That team. That team battered and bruised teams, and his
whole style and approach with the Knicks is what makes
it interesting because it's almost like he was sandwiched between
(33:22):
Mr Smooth, l A and Miami and he's got the
Knicks in between. And the Miami teams actually remind me
a little bit of those Knicks teams in the way
they were built, just how physical they play. That's why
they gave so many people so many problems. So great
commentary saying just breaking it down for that's what I do. Yeah,
(33:43):
you know, it's pertinent to the conversation. You know, somebody
accused us of talking about dust cropping too much. Yesterday.
We talked about it for an entire secment. I enjoyed
it personally. I mean, you talked about your Well, well,
here's what's funny, right, I just I just snarted just now,
(34:04):
like I sneezed, and you know, like how they call them,
you know, the sharks. I did. It was it was
very accidental, but I was just being honest about it.
So thank god, max er Back was very, very strong,
and it just created a god all right, there we go,
There we go, Lee, I've been holding mine because they're
(34:25):
pretty bad. What are they not bad? It's like a
dueling piano bar, Like it's in here and then it's
in this room. Come on, man, give some of us
a break. Here. People are alright, you guys, In case
you missed this, we all know Ryan Fitzpatrick is retired.
(34:46):
And he announced, uh, you know which team made him
feel most at home out of the nine different NFL
teams he had played with. Can you guess which one
it is? No Jets Tampa Buffalo. There you go, LaVar,
that's right, Buffalo Bills, who he's with for four seasons.
By the way, he got a contract, a pretty nice
(35:06):
contract at the time from the Bills. Um. I was like,
I thought he was gonna be like a main state
for a minute there. Man. He played seventh round draft pick,
was like five or six picks away from not being
drafted at all, and he lasted seventeen years as a quarterback.
What a career. Man. He was the type that like
everyone loved him. Everyone loved him. I mean I remember,
(35:28):
by the way, we went and played him when he
was qubing Buffalo and he came up to meet us,
Like a bunch of us were out from the opposing
team when I was in Kansas City at the time,
but he came out to meet us. Uh set hello,
all that stuff. I mean he was. He was as
cool a dude as you'll find um in that regard.
But he just it was well respected, worked hard, and
when he got his opportunity, man, he was gonna sling
(35:51):
that thing like he look, he's a seventh round pick.
What did he have to lose. He's got a degree
from Harvard, you know, It's like he's got that fallback
plan and so That's why I like the eight. He
might throw six picks, but he might throw six touch
stocks too. What was it? Was it him? And had
to quote because I think it was against Kansas City
through the six interceptions? And was it him? You were saying?
(36:12):
Had to quote where he said? You know, at some
point it's like, what's another one matter? What doesn't matter,
doesn't matter? It already looks bad, man, But I don't.
I don't think I've ever thrown more than three in
a game. I don't think. But like I remember thinking
to myself, after the first one, you're like, it's hard
to forget. You're upset about it. The second one happens,
then after that you're probably you're probably losing, and so
(36:34):
you're like, okay, now you're in gunslinger moment. And after
the third, just like, all right, I hate this, hate,
I hate doing this. I don't want to throw another one.
But some guys just like, I mean, what's one more?
What's four? What's five? But six? Giving the ball back, guys.
In case you missed this, the two three College Football
Hall of Fame ballot was announced, and it's pretty stacked,
with eighty players, nine coaches, nineteen of them have the
(36:57):
word heisman mentioned in their brief bio. But guess get this,
Reggie Bush was not amongst those. Well he is amongst
the Yeah. I mean, look he's Reggie's gonna get in. Uh,
Tebow is gonna get in. What's interesting about it is,
I think you're eligible what ten years after you you're
done plan or something like that. I mean, both of them,
(37:19):
you could have made a case should have gone in
like right away, but like in Lavarre as you know,
because you're a college football Hall of Famer, Like, there's
a ton of really good players like it is. I
mean there's dudes like I got two Notre Dame guys,
Michael Stonebreaker and um Todd Light and like, dude, he's
a beast, and like he's not in yet and he
(37:39):
should be. So it's I mean, I think they'll both
get in. The Lewis is in it, I mean he's
not in yet. So again, there's so so many good
players through so many years, like both those two will
get in. But it's it's crazy when you look at it,
and it's a it's quite the accomplishment. Michael Stonebreaker Peter
(38:00):
on that list not in yet. Peter works on on
the list were done. Is on the list He's not in? Yeah,
I mean this is This is a lot of great players, man,
a lot of great players. Brady, what are you getting in?
Come on man, Oh it's gonna be a while mine. Yeah,
it's staring. I'll be six ft under before that appen.
I don't say that. Let's take it a dirt. N
(38:20):
I got, I gotta, I got a little bit of nowadays,
I'm gonna make sure I put in a good word
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