September 11, 2023 • 35 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Cowboys embarrass the Giants in a shutout. The Bears continue to get owned by the Packers, even with Jordan Love. Plus, an all-time boneheaded move and much more on “ICYMI.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Monday edition, we look back at the first Sunday
of the NFL season and we talk about a historically
bad performance by the New York Giants in primetime. We're
also gonna talk about the debut of the Jordan Love
era in Green Bay all as well for the Packers
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quarterback situation. Plus, we're gonna have another edition of In
Case you missed it, and that'll feature one of the
dumbest moves that you've seen from a coach in the
world of football maybe ever. We're gonna talk about what
the AFC North could look like. It was Stick City
in Stick City in a big way. We'll talk about
Levar's big weekend in State College. Plus, we're gonna have
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another edition of the FSR IR. We've got a special
Monday night football edition of You In Or You Out?
And Tyreek Hill and the Dolphins are a Danger to
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How the hell we feel in here, LeVar Arrington, good.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Man, feel good, feel rested.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Even though it was a long ass day of travel,
a couple of days of travel, but yeah, I was
able to see a lot of the games that were
viewable and was able to review the others that that
I wasn't able to see. And uh, it was a
great weekend of football, man, Like it's it's uh. It's
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one of those deals. You know, got a chance to
really enjoy college football on Saturday, got an opportunity to
you know, we got up. I had to pay the price,
Jonas and and that's man. Do we got an I
R this week? Because I'll tell you what we got
one Lee, I got an IR for you, Car I
R too, Teslas by the way. But yeah, nonetheless, we've
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overcome a few things, few little little snaffoos to to
be able to get on airplane early enough to make
it back to Sunny La to see the game.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So yeah, it was good, man, it's good.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So just a total hypothetical.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, you're a Giants fan, right, and just imagine you're
a Giants fan coming into this season and you're thinking
to yourself, we were a playoff team a year ago.
We won a playoff game, and we did it on
the road. We've got Daniel Jones playing franchise quarterback level football.
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Saquon Barkley's back. We feel like this is the year
we added Darren Waller. We feel like we're ready to
make that step. All right, Everyone says, no, no, no,
there's always a team that's good the year prior and
then they struggle the next year. We're not going to
be that team. And we're going to open up the
season and we're going to do it against the hated
Dallas Cowboys and we don't care that it's pouring rain
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at that stadium in New Jersey called MetLife. We don't
care about any of that stuff. We're going to make
a statement Week one on national team. You go out
and you get stomped out.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
So funny to me, it's so funny. Well, okay, have
you ever been a part of a Week one that
look like that? On that and we'll get to the
Cowboys and the Cowboys defense was fantastic, But have you
ever been a part of a Week one loss like
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that in your football career that you can don't recall?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I don't recall being I recall being.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
On the other side of a Molly whopping, but I've
never been on this I don't recall. Now that doesn't
mean that it didn't happen. I just don't I don't
recall a lot of my time in Washington, So it's
possible that I could have gotten you know, Molly wopped.
It's possible. I just don't recall.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
How do you recover like that that battle?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
It's weak one, and it's bad enough. It was a
it was such a shellacking that you can almost write
it off and write it up to it's the first
game of the year, and all we can do is
go up from here, you know, and that's that Maybe
that's maybe that's the frame of mind here, is that
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it didn't go the way they would like for it
to go. Anything that could have gone wrong seemingly went wrong.
You know, Dak Prescott wasn't even a major factor, and
then winning the game. I mean, it wasn't like he
was like this world beating quarterback that came out there
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and was destroying them. As as advertised, Michael Parsons has
gotten his uh defensive MVP candidacy off to an amazing start.
They they just they you know, they did what they
needed to do. In other areas of the of the game.
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The the first the first turnover being the field goal.
I mean, it looked like it was going to be
a game like, okay, you know, New York comes out.
They they they came out playing power football. They ran
the ball, say Kwan was effective, and and then they
they disrupted their their flow with uh, you know, with
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a penalty. After the penalty, it just seemed like they
never recovered from the the inability to finish that drive.
It just went, it just went off the rails from
that field goal that was blocked and returned.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
It's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
I mean that was that was like, okay, we gave
you our our opening best shot, and that that turned
out to be a field goal blocked in a return
for a touchdown. Like that's like okay, Like it was
a little demoralizing, you know, but.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Let's let's let's try to recover.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Let's let's move forward, and then boom, you know, you
hit Saquon in the mouth, Saquon coughs it up. They
pick it up, all right, they catch it, go four touchdown.
It was like, I don't know, it was like if
I'm a New York Giants fan or a New York
Giants player or a New York Giants coach, I'm sitting
there like is this the twilight Zone. It's got something.
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There's gotta be some type of harsh, cruel joke that's
taking place for us to have everything seemingly possibly or
possible that could go bad go bad.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, it's like you're watching them drive down and to
your point, you thought it was going to be a
game because they're moving the ball, they're being somewhat effective.
They line up for that field goal, it gets blocked,
it gets returned, and then the Cowboys miss the extra points.
Are you thinking, Okay, well, right, at least not all
the momentum in the right right. And the next thing,
you know, the first quarter's winding down and it's a
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pick six, and it's it's like, wait a second, so
we're down sixteen to nothing, all right, but we're going
to rally back. And they just never figured it out.
And and yeah, Dak Prescott didn't need to do anything
like he wouldn't had to do one hundred and forty
yards passing.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
It was it was pedestrian. He just but you know what,
they didn't sack him. You know, he did not turn
the ball over. So that's that's you know, that's a
good thing. I just it's just weird man. He didn't
have to do much at all. No, and and listen,
Q's off today. I know, and I'm sure he would
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would probably reiterate the fact that he said he said
that the defense would would carry him, wouldn't matter, defense
would carry this Cowboys team. And and seemingly, you know,
that's the start of it, but this is defense.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
They carried him.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Just the thought of you know, some guy thinking, you
know what weather or no weather, we're risking at all.
He just rolls up to MetLife and a Jeff high
Stetler poncho and he thinks this is our year and
they just get sawed off the way they do. I
think it's hilarious. But yeah, the defense is fantastic. And
the fact that that took place on national TV to
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open up the year and you saw them play the
way they did, that's that's a good spot momentum wise
for that defensive player of the Year to go to
Stick City. That's what I feel like. I feel like
they're in a good spot now. And we've talked a
lot about Dak Prescott. Can he get it done?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
What can they do? You know, Zeke's gone. It's a
brand new era. They've got you know, they're they're.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Paying offensive linemen, they're getting people locked up to long
term deals. But yeah, that defense is tremendous. Dan Quinn's
done a phenomenal job, and I just feel like that's
the side of the ball that a lot of people
haven't focused on. They've just focused on can this team
win with Dak Prescott?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Man? If they get that, you can with anybody almost.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You know what's crazy?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Osa Digazui had a game that was better than Michael Parsons,
mikeah Is. Michah definitely set fire to to showing that
he should be in the conversation early right now for
defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
But Digga Zoo he had a game better.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
He had one more sack than Micah, He had one
more one more tackle than Micah in the game. But
what I will say is, man, he's a disrupted Like again,
sometimes I'll make points and and you know, we could
get into you know, different types of discussion points and
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debates about you know, if I'm inaccurate or if I'm accurate.
But the one thing about it is is that this
is one of those moments where I can say, Okay,
we can look back on this game and be like
a statistically, you wouldn't have said that Michael Parsons had
all that great of a day. He had one sack,
he had two tackles, one assists. That's not a crazy
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statistical line, but looking at it in the moment, he
was so disruptive in the game and it doesn't show
in the statistics. But this is one of those like
prime prime examples of God dang bru Like like I
ended a a I was on my hot my honeymoon
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vacation and we were supposed to stay in Turks and
Kekos another week. I told my wife, my new bride,
we are out of here. We're going home. We're cutting
it short. We're gonna get back. And it was because
there was a mosquito. I think it was one mosquito.
There had to have been a ton of them, but
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it didn't matter. It was this one mosquito that I
felt like was attacking me the entire time, followed me
around the whole entire.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Beach, Hey, buddy over here.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
And I don't know what it was, but the reason
why I thought it was one one mosquito in particular,
is because the way it sounded and it got to
my ear and it sounded the same. It was like
it was just more valent than any of the other
mosquitos that I had had interaction with, like in my
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entire life. This was, you know, just one nuisance of
a mosquito. The point of that story was and is,
is that Micah Parsons was like that, that very very
aggressive mosquito that was always in your ear and I'm
into the honeymoon early going home, We're out of here,
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and that kind of felt like that was what happened
with the New York Giants. They had a mosquito that
would leave them alone.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But but it's but it's true, like I've read, like
I heard that about Julius Peppers as well too, that
Julius Peppers if you look at his his numbers were great, obviously,
but it was all the plays that he made for
other people just because you couldn't block him at times.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And you could say, and to that point, one of
dig Zooey Sachs came because everybody, every man, woman and
child that was available was plucking Micah.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
So yeah, I mean that's a good point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
No, So it's just an impressive performance, defensively special teams.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Dak you know, just did what he had to do.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
But man, oh man, that was just don't lose the game.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
To your point on mosquitoes, I got destroyed this weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Everywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's all like they're flying pipe bombs. That's what that's
what I've learned, flying pipe bombs who just ruined people's
weekends and apparently their honeymoons as well too.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Man's imagine that you're in like a utopian type of
place and it was just it was amazing and it
was ruined.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, that's like what brutal.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
You're not supposed to be able to adjust the the
sound of how you're flying around, like just being a
normal mosquito. Man, Like, don't be like turbo charge man.
That that mosquito was fighting through like sheer. You know,
they had to like little share cover curtain over your
bed so you can lie in comfort and know that
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you're not going to get chewed up and wake up
with like you know, big old whelps on your your
body and stuff like that, or worse, wake up with
with some type of a you know, allergic reaction. Nah,
not this mosquito. This mosquito wasn't playing that man, that
mosquito was coming through. What no curtain going to keep
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you out? No, nothing like it's coming through. And it
was just there like all right, we left the room.
I'm sitting on the on the on the outside patio
there go to the beach there like there's no way
they can all be supercharge hopped up like this. So
I just struck out to the fact that this was
one mosquito that had it in for me, like it
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was it was going to rat and not with with
going out with with just harassing and biting me the
entire time.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, listen, that Mosquitos got a got a football player
who's uh did.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
A hell of a job last night. Yes he did,
remembering ruining your honeymoon.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So there's that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Uh it is two pros, Yes.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
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Case you missed it, you want to talk about one
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details on that coming up here in about twenty minutes
from now from the Tirak dot Com studio. So, I mean,
you know the Sky's blue waters wet, the Packers own
the Bears. I mean, it's just kind of that's just
the way this goes and the way it goes. That
was a hell of a debut as the brand new
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era of Packer footballs under Jordan Love kicked off to
a as good of a start as you could possibly.
He looked, Yeah, Watson was out, he looks fantastic man
and just that bear. They Bears defense couldn't get off
the field on third down or fourth down. It was awful,
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and he just exposed them and it looked like, oh yeah,
he completely damn uh. Just an absolute disaster for the
Chicago Bears. But it was all because of Jordan Love
and that Packers' offense who looked like they, you know,
are ready to not only move on from Aaron Rodgers,
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but try and build something new with yet another performance
from a quarterback there at Soldier Field that left Bears
fans looking around like, why the hell can't we have
that here for the last thirty to forty years. So
let's take a listen to Matt Lafleur. He was the
the head coach of the Green Bay Packers, who was
talking afterwards about the performance of Jordan Love.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
I could be more proud of just his performance, his poise.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
There's all.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
There's a big time belief in that locker room for
Jordan Love. And I think the guys they're going to
rally around him. They're excited for him, they love him,
they respect him. He comes to work every day.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean, I don't think anybody's gonna sit here and say,
all right, well they're going to go three for three,
hall of Fame quarterback to Hall of Fame quarterback to
Hall of Fame quarterback. But just from a start to
a new era standpoint, this is as good as it
could possibly be in Soldier Field against the Bears. And
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you roll that out and give him that burger and
serve it to him like that. To me, that's this
is as good as everything that they were hoping for
with the Packers when he came to Jordan Love. They
got it yesterday in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Man, I think that sums it up. He had he had,
you know, strong control over the offense. You would say
that that's because he has such a familiarity with with
Lafleur and and and co.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
The offensive playbook. He understands what's going on in the
National Football League because he's had ample amount of time
to adapt and a just and to see what it's
all about. And he's been in the quarterback room and
in practices with one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever
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play the game. And I would probably venture to say
that Aaron Rodgers had that same scenario play out for him.
Some of the things that I saw Jordan Love do
were Aaron Rodgers esque. His He kind of had that
same type. It's kind of weird. He had kind of
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had somewhat close to the same type of demeanor and
how he was doing things like it just it looked
as though you saw a player who has been influenced
by the play of another and he had he's talented
enough to execute on that level. And whether you know
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somebody you know people would agree or not in terms
of how much he looked like Aaron Rodgers out there
on the field. I just thought his ability to deliver
the ball, he was cool, he was calm, his control
and command over the offense, him knowing when to take
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chances and not. I mean, obviously Aaron Jones was the
sole catalysts in a lot of ways of the success
and it wasn't you know, It wasn't very many times
that they went to him.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
It was just the fact that he.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
He did so well when they did, and so to me,
just seeing the way he played, seeing the way Green
Bay played, seeing the way that they were excited about
what Jordan Love was doing, would give you the idea
and the belief that this Green Bay Packers team has
a very very good chance of being a team that
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moves forward. And whether it's the third in a row,
third generation next to be the greatest quarterback and be
a Hall of Fame annointing a Hall of Fame quarterback
or not, I think we would all agree that he's
off to a good start. I mean, it wasn't even
for him. I said, it wasn't a crazy day for
Dak Prescott. Well, it wasn't a crazy day so much
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for him. I mean, I thought, two forty five on
the day is a good that's a good number. You know,
it's not a horrible number. It's not like it's not
like he didn't have any real production. He put up
three tds, he protected the ball, there were no interceptions,
So he had a good day. He had a solid
day in the office. It wasn't a you know, world
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beating performance, but it certainly was impressive to see what
he was able to do coming out in his debut.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So you kind of made the point. And I remember
we talked about this. One of the things that stood
out after Colorado's opener was Shador Sanders and how poised
he looked like. He looked like he was totally calm,
totally cool. You know, even if you know there was
a bad play or maybe the number, you know, if
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just the play, you know, this play wasn't there, he
would get rid of the just there was a total
calmness to his performance. And I got the same vibe
with Jordan Love. And you can look at the box
score and you can look at it and and it's
similar to the Micah Parsons conversation that we just had.
You could look at just the box score and you
could say, wow, I mean, you know, he had what
one sack and a couple of pressures. I mean, that's
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not really that that kind of performance is going to
get you Defensive Player.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Of the Year.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
But if you watch the game and don't look at
just the numbers, it tells you a different story.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Gives you a different feeling.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, if you watched the Packers Bears game yesterday, it
looked like Jordan Love was totally in control.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Like he's been the starter, yes for a while, totally
didn't look it didn't look like he was having like
first started game, you know, first game starting Jitters or
my first year as the starter without Aaron Jitters. It
just looked like we at the office, Yeah, and I
do this, and I'm really good at doing this, so
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enjoy the show.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
That was kind of the feel he had, like he
almost if you saw him and they showed him on
the sideline a few times, they showed him on the
sideline a lot, he just had like more of a
like a relaxed, almost borderline nonchalant look, and it was
kind of Aaron Rodgers esque, Yeah, you know, like this
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is what I do. Like, Yeah, give me my you know,
give me my propers. I'm gonna come back out there.
We're gonna do it again. I'm gonna come back out
and I'm a chill and we're gonna smile, but it's
gonna be like almost like a sarcastic smile, and we're
going to continue to just do what we do to
the Bears, which is when.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I mean I I don't know. Yeah, that's all they do.
I mean, I don't I don't know. Look, you're probably
not going to see a defense that played as poor
as Chicago did yesterday to where they couldn't get off
as we mentioned, off the field on third down and
fourth down, they weren't really able to get any pressure.
He had a bunch of time there. But as you mentioned,
look they weren't at full strength. I mean, there was
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you know, they were missing some pieces there.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Injury report.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
And the fact that you take over for Rogers and
the first game that you take over when everybody's celebrating
Rogers and the Jets and they won the offseason and
their Super Bowl contenders, and the Packers aren't going to
be the same. And where do they put you on
the road in Soldier Field and you roll that out
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and give them that kind of loss. That's that's impressive, man.
And And if you're a Packer fan right now and
you're listening, and I know we're on in Wisconsin, if
you're a Packer fan, you come away from that game going, yeah,
we may not see the same crummy defense that we
saw from the Bears.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But at least we got a guy who in a
pressure moment with a lot on the line and a
lot of people watching one of the feet one of
the featured late games on Fox. You get the number
one crew calling the game there in Chicago, and you
go out and dominate like that. That's and look, they've
got Atlanta on the road next week, do the Packers,
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And then they've got New Orleans in Detroit, and then
the Raiders. Then you hit your bye week in week six.
I mean, there's a real opportunity. We're looking at a
team that's what gonna be three and two at worse.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Aaron Jones is a beast though.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Man, yeah, no's he's a stud, but beast, bro. The
Falcons are a winnable game. I mean, New Orleans didn't
look all that great. You're going to get them at home.
I just I look at it and I go, man,
this is off to a much better start, even though
it's one week than I think any But he could
have expected even if had they lost, but he still
performed the way he performed, you would feel good about it. Man.
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He was fantastic and they won that game. Going away,
that game wasn't close, so good for good for the
Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
What does that mean for Justin? What does that mean
for your team?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Like you rolled it out very differently for the Cowboys
Giants game. And if I'm a Giants fan, and I mean,
if you're a Bears fan like Jonas Knox, what does
that mean?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I mean, that's just a reckless allegation here. Well, because
I have a solution, all right, because at this point,
if you're a Bears fan, you just gotta go ahead
and be brutally honest with yourself about the situation. There's
only one way to solve this. Okay, you got dominated
by Brett Fahr for a long time, then you got
dominated by Aaron Rodgers. You're one game man, and you
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just got dominated by Jordan Love You you haven't been
able to figure out the quarterback position and they've had
thirty years of Hall of Fame play. So after yesterday, yeah, look,
it's like an eight hour drive. Just go join the CFL.
It's over. It's over, Like what are you gonna do?
And not to mention, the Lions look pretty good winning
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on the road, I mean the Vikings. Yeah, that wasn't
ideal for anybody involved. I don't know how many people
had the Vikings losing to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and
Baker Mayfield in Week one, But it's just that's as
bad as it can as it could have gone for
the Bears, who watched the guy that they assume is
their franchise quarterback get completely outplayed by Jordan Love who's
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been sitting on the bench for three years. So is
what it is, man, go to the CFLN, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Put together a rivalry with the Toronto Argonauts.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
There were some disappointments yesterday though, I'll tell you that man,
as a fan, I got disappointed yesterday.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I'll say that, yeah. That way.
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In case you missed this, uh tough news here, Michigan
State has suspended head coach Mel Tucker without pay amid
sexual harassment allegations.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Thank you there, LeVar.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
Amid amid sexual harassment allegations, he had allegedly sexually harassed
a uh sexual assault prevention advocate on campus. He admitted
to doing so.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
So he is now suspended without pay. He had just
signed a ten year, ninety five million dollar extension back
in November of twenty.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
One sexually assaulting a sexual harassment educator.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
So, yeah, that is right.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
This woman was you know, reportedly raped, you know, years
and years ago, and since then has become an activist
to speak out against it and to help, you know,
educate and talk with people. She visited Michigan State, who's
obviously had their issues with the Larry Nasser stuff that
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came out, So there was that. She's visited there three
different times. She was an honorary captain for Michigan State
one game.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
A lot of access.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
H Yeah, and mel Tucker admits.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Too consensual, Well, it wasn't even consensual interactions. He admits
to pleasuring himself on the phone with her. And she
was just like in her statement in the report when
she filed the complaint was like I just was kind
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of frozen like, is this guy like really doing this,
knowing my background, knowing what's happening, really doing this? And
Meucker admitted to it and then tried to say, well
it was consensual s right, Yeah, okay, But like I
think everybody acknowledges that mel Tucker got like one of
the great contracts, Like other than the fact that just
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the obvious, which is, what are you doing, dude, like
read the room and understand the background before we make.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
A ruin that you understand the background?
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Like just how hard is that to understand she's a
sexual harassment?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah, that's my pator.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well what do you like? What are you thinking? What
goes through your mind?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And then on top of that, the contract he got
for basically one decent year at Colorado I think it
was the COVID year, and then he had the one
decent year of Michigan State. He ended up with a
ninety million dollars deal set for life, and he figured
out a way to probably get fired with cause yes,
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there's no way you.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Bring it back when they make the decision with no,
you know, he goes what do you well?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Like on every level, one of the dumbest things I've
ever like, I can't. It's it's shocking.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
That's that's that is tremendously dumb. That is over the top,
across the line off the cliff dump.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I mean, look, you can read the details on USA
Today did a really lengthy and explained every single aspect
of it. You can read the details, and you just
come away from that going what a weirdo? Like, just
the guy's a weirdo and and now he's probably gonna
be out of a job, and I can't imagine. Yeah,
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it's just unbelievable that that was the decision that Mel
Tucker made and admitted to it, you know as well too,
So it's not like.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
This is about poor judgment. Yeah, what else.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
We got leave guys?
Speaker 9 (33:54):
In case you missed, Tom Brady was recognized Sunday at
halftime during the loss of the Eagles. Yeah, and ducted
into the New England Patriots Hall of Fame, which is
noteworthy because it's before It usually takes four years before
a player is allowed to be inducted into the Hall
of Fame of the New England Patriots, but Robert Kraft
made an exception for the goat.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean, look, you know it's the least he could do.
So I guess that means that Brady's not coming back.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
To play, right, I guess. I guess we're good with this.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
He went there, watched the game, hung out, got a
little emotional, got the crowd hyped up, and you know,
now he's just on the bigger and better things. By
the way, isn't he doing something with like Delta Airlines
now too?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
He's the new ambassador of Delta Airlines? How about that?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Which is weird?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Were they were they the flight that somebody craft themselves
and they had to turn it around and and go
I almost positive that was Delta?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Or have customer service desk? Well that's why you have
to get rebooked.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
And it wasn't that right?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
No one's there, Labar.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
You guys are the same drive.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Pay people to go on your social media and harass
you because you get a video about talking about Lamar.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You guys are in the same draft class. Can't you
hook you up with like, you know, a couple of
vouchers or something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
You'd be all right, yeah, wow, it'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Good for TV twelve
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Speaker 4 (02:00):
Man, feel good, feel rested.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Even though it was a long ass day of travel,
a couple of days of travel, but yeah, I was
able to see a lot of the games that were
viewable and was able to review the others that that
I wasn't able to see. And uh, it was a
great weekend of football, man, Like it's it's uh. It's
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one of those deals. You know, got a chance to
really enjoy college football on Saturday, got an opportunity to
you know, we got up. I had to pay the price,
Jonas and and that's man. Do we got an I
R this week? Because I'll tell you what we got
one Lee, I got an IR for you, Car I
R too, Teslas by the way. But yeah, nonetheless, we've
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overcome a few things, few little little snaffoos to to
be able to get on airplane early enough to make
it back to Sunny La to see the game.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So yeah, it was good, man, it's good.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So just a total hypothetical.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, you're a Giants fan, right, and just imagine you're
a Giants fan coming into this season and you're thinking
to yourself, we were a playoff team a year ago.
We won a playoff game, and we did it on
the road. We've got Daniel Jones playing franchise quarterback level football.
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Saquon Barkley's back. We feel like this is the year
we added Darren Waller. We feel like we're ready to
make that step. All right, Everyone says, no, no, no,
there's always a team that's good the year prior and
then they struggle the next year. We're not going to
be that team. And we're going to open up the
season and we're going to do it against the hated
Dallas Cowboys and we don't care that it's pouring rain
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at that stadium in New Jersey called MetLife. We don't
care about any of that stuff. We're going to make
a statement Week one on national team. You go out
and you get stomped out.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
So funny to me, it's so funny. Well, okay, have
you ever been a part of a Week one that
look like that? On that and we'll get to the
Cowboys and the Cowboys defense was fantastic, But have you
ever been a part of a Week one loss like
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that in your football career that you can don't recall?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I don't recall being I recall being.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
On the other side of a Molly whopping, but I've
never been on this I don't recall. Now that doesn't
mean that it didn't happen. I just don't I don't
recall a lot of my time in Washington, So it's
possible that I could have gotten you know, Molly wopped.
It's possible. I just don't recall.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
How do you recover like that that battle?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
It's weak one, and it's bad enough. It was a
it was such a shellacking that you can almost write
it off and write it up to it's the first
game of the year, and all we can do is
go up from here, you know, and that's that Maybe
that's maybe that's the frame of mind here, is that
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it didn't go the way they would like for it
to go. Anything that could have gone wrong seemingly went wrong.
You know, Dak Prescott wasn't even a major factor, and
then winning the game. I mean, it wasn't like he
was like this world beating quarterback that came out there
(05:46):
and was destroying them. As as advertised, Michael Parsons has
gotten his uh defensive MVP candidacy off to an amazing start.
They they just they you know, they did what they
needed to do. In other areas of the of the game.
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The the first the first turnover being the field goal.
I mean, it looked like it was going to be
a game like, okay, you know, New York comes out.
They they they came out playing power football. They ran
the ball, say Kwan was effective, and and then they
they disrupted their their flow with uh, you know, with
(06:28):
a penalty. After the penalty, it just seemed like they
never recovered from the the inability to finish that drive.
It just went, it just went off the rails from
that field goal that was blocked and returned.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
It's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
I mean that was that was like, okay, we gave
you our our opening best shot, and that that turned
out to be a field goal blocked in a return
for a touchdown. Like that's like okay, Like it was
a little demoralizing, you know, but.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Let's let's let's try to recover.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Let's let's move forward, and then boom, you know, you
hit Saquon in the mouth, Saquon coughs it up. They
pick it up, all right, they catch it, go four touchdown.
It was like, I don't know, it was like if
I'm a New York Giants fan or a New York
Giants player or a New York Giants coach, I'm sitting
there like is this the twilight Zone. It's got something.
(07:24):
There's gotta be some type of harsh, cruel joke that's
taking place for us to have everything seemingly possibly or
possible that could go bad go bad.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, it's like you're watching them drive down and to
your point, you thought it was going to be a
game because they're moving the ball, they're being somewhat effective.
They line up for that field goal, it gets blocked,
it gets returned, and then the Cowboys miss the extra points.
Are you thinking, Okay, well, right, at least not all
the momentum in the right right. And the next thing,
you know, the first quarter's winding down and it's a
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pick six, and it's it's like, wait a second, so
we're down sixteen to nothing, all right, but we're going
to rally back. And they just never figured it out.
And and yeah, Dak Prescott didn't need to do anything
like he wouldn't had to do one hundred and forty
yards passing.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
It was it was pedestrian. He just but you know what,
they didn't sack him. You know, he did not turn
the ball over. So that's that's you know, that's a
good thing. I just it's just weird man. He didn't
have to do much at all. No, and and listen,
Q's off today. I know, and I'm sure he would
(08:34):
would probably reiterate the fact that he said he said
that the defense would would carry him, wouldn't matter, defense
would carry this Cowboys team. And and seemingly, you know,
that's the start of it, but this is defense.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
They carried him.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Just the thought of you know, some guy thinking, you
know what weather or no weather, we're risking at all.
He just rolls up to MetLife and a Jeff high
Stetler poncho and he thinks this is our year and
they just get sawed off the way they do. I
think it's hilarious. But yeah, the defense is fantastic. And
the fact that that took place on national TV to
(09:12):
open up the year and you saw them play the
way they did, that's that's a good spot momentum wise
for that defensive player of the Year to go to
Stick City. That's what I feel like. I feel like
they're in a good spot now. And we've talked a
lot about Dak Prescott. Can he get it done?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
What can they do? You know, Zeke's gone. It's a
brand new era. They've got you know, they're they're.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Paying offensive linemen, they're getting people locked up to long
term deals. But yeah, that defense is tremendous. Dan Quinn's
done a phenomenal job, and I just feel like that's
the side of the ball that a lot of people
haven't focused on. They've just focused on can this team
win with Dak Prescott?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Man? If they get that, you can with anybody almost.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You know what's crazy?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Osa Digazui had a game that was better than Michael Parsons,
mikeah Is. Michah definitely set fire to to showing that
he should be in the conversation early right now for
defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
But Digga Zoo he had a game better.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
He had one more sack than Micah, He had one
more one more tackle than Micah in the game. But
what I will say is, man, he's a disrupted Like again,
sometimes I'll make points and and you know, we could
get into you know, different types of discussion points and
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debates about you know, if I'm inaccurate or if I'm accurate.
But the one thing about it is is that this
is one of those moments where I can say, Okay,
we can look back on this game and be like
a statistically, you wouldn't have said that Michael Parsons had
all that great of a day. He had one sack,
he had two tackles, one assists. That's not a crazy
(10:56):
statistical line, but looking at it in the moment, he
was so disruptive in the game and it doesn't show
in the statistics. But this is one of those like
prime prime examples of God dang bru Like like I
ended a a I was on my hot my honeymoon
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vacation and we were supposed to stay in Turks and
Kekos another week. I told my wife, my new bride,
we are out of here. We're going home. We're cutting
it short. We're gonna get back. And it was because
there was a mosquito. I think it was one mosquito.
There had to have been a ton of them, but
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it didn't matter. It was this one mosquito that I
felt like was attacking me the entire time, followed me
around the whole entire.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Beach, Hey, buddy over here.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
And I don't know what it was, but the reason
why I thought it was one one mosquito in particular,
is because the way it sounded and it got to
my ear and it sounded the same. It was like
it was just more valent than any of the other
mosquitos that I had had interaction with, like in my
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entire life. This was, you know, just one nuisance of
a mosquito. The point of that story was and is,
is that Micah Parsons was like that, that very very
aggressive mosquito that was always in your ear and I'm
into the honeymoon early going home, We're out of here,
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and that kind of felt like that was what happened
with the New York Giants. They had a mosquito that
would leave them alone.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But but it's but it's true, like I've read, like
I heard that about Julius Peppers as well too, that
Julius Peppers if you look at his his numbers were great, obviously,
but it was all the plays that he made for
other people just because you couldn't block him at times.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And you could say, and to that point, one of
dig Zooey Sachs came because everybody, every man, woman and
child that was available was plucking Micah.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
So yeah, I mean that's a good point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
No, So it's just an impressive performance, defensively special teams.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Dak you know, just did what he had to do.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
But man, oh man, that was just don't lose the game.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
To your point on mosquitoes, I got destroyed this weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Everywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's all like they're flying pipe bombs. That's what that's
what I've learned, flying pipe bombs who just ruined people's
weekends and apparently their honeymoons as well too.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Man's imagine that you're in like a utopian type of
place and it was just it was amazing and it
was ruined.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, that's like what brutal.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
You're not supposed to be able to adjust the the
sound of how you're flying around, like just being a
normal mosquito. Man, Like, don't be like turbo charge man.
That that mosquito was fighting through like sheer. You know,
they had to like little share cover curtain over your
bed so you can lie in comfort and know that
(14:18):
you're not going to get chewed up and wake up
with like you know, big old whelps on your your
body and stuff like that, or worse, wake up with
with some type of a you know, allergic reaction. Nah,
not this mosquito. This mosquito wasn't playing that man, that
mosquito was coming through. What no curtain going to keep
(14:39):
you out? No, nothing like it's coming through. And it
was just there like all right, we left the room.
I'm sitting on the on the on the outside patio
there go to the beach there like there's no way
they can all be supercharge hopped up like this. So
I just struck out to the fact that this was
one mosquito that had it in for me, like it
(15:01):
was it was going to rat and not with with
going out with with just harassing and biting me the
entire time.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, listen, that Mosquitos got a got a football player
who's uh did.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
A hell of a job last night. Yes he did,
remembering ruining your honeymoon.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So there's that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Uh it is two pros, Yes.
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He did, two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
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But coming up next, same old, same old, although I
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like this in the NFL, and we'll tell you who
that is right here on FSR.
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Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
about twenty minutes from now, in another edition of In
Case you missed it, you want to talk about one
of the dumbest moves in recent sports history. This might
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this move by somebody in the world of football. We
will have that for you here and give you the
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details on that coming up here in about twenty minutes
from now from the Tirak dot Com studio. So, I mean,
you know the Sky's blue waters wet, the Packers own
the Bears. I mean, it's just kind of that's just
the way this goes and the way it goes. That
was a hell of a debut as the brand new
(16:55):
era of Packer footballs under Jordan Love kicked off to
a as good of a start as you could possibly.
He looked, Yeah, Watson was out, he looks fantastic man
and just that bear. They Bears defense couldn't get off
the field on third down or fourth down. It was awful,
(17:17):
and he just exposed them and it looked like, oh yeah,
he completely damn uh. Just an absolute disaster for the
Chicago Bears. But it was all because of Jordan Love
and that Packers' offense who looked like they, you know,
are ready to not only move on from Aaron Rodgers,
(17:39):
but try and build something new with yet another performance
from a quarterback there at Soldier Field that left Bears
fans looking around like, why the hell can't we have
that here for the last thirty to forty years. So
let's take a listen to Matt Lafleur. He was the
the head coach of the Green Bay Packers, who was
talking afterwards about the performance of Jordan Love.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
I could be more proud of just his performance, his poise.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
There's all.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
There's a big time belief in that locker room for
Jordan Love. And I think the guys they're going to
rally around him. They're excited for him, they love him,
they respect him. He comes to work every day.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean, I don't think anybody's gonna sit here and say,
all right, well they're going to go three for three,
hall of Fame quarterback to Hall of Fame quarterback to
Hall of Fame quarterback. But just from a start to
a new era standpoint, this is as good as it
could possibly be in Soldier Field against the Bears. And
(18:39):
you roll that out and give him that burger and
serve it to him like that. To me, that's this
is as good as everything that they were hoping for
with the Packers when he came to Jordan Love. They
got it yesterday in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Man, I think that sums it up. He had he had,
you know, strong control over the offense. You would say
that that's because he has such a familiarity with with
Lafleur and and and co.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
The offensive playbook. He understands what's going on in the
National Football League because he's had ample amount of time
to adapt and a just and to see what it's
all about. And he's been in the quarterback room and
in practices with one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever
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play the game. And I would probably venture to say
that Aaron Rodgers had that same scenario play out for him.
Some of the things that I saw Jordan Love do
were Aaron Rodgers esque. His He kind of had that
same type. It's kind of weird. He had kind of
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had somewhat close to the same type of demeanor and
how he was doing things like it just it looked
as though you saw a player who has been influenced
by the play of another and he had he's talented
enough to execute on that level. And whether you know
(20:07):
somebody you know people would agree or not in terms
of how much he looked like Aaron Rodgers out there
on the field. I just thought his ability to deliver
the ball, he was cool, he was calm, his control
and command over the offense, him knowing when to take
(20:29):
chances and not. I mean, obviously Aaron Jones was the
sole catalysts in a lot of ways of the success
and it wasn't you know, It wasn't very many times
that they went to him.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
It was just the fact that he.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
He did so well when they did, and so to me,
just seeing the way he played, seeing the way Green
Bay played, seeing the way that they were excited about
what Jordan Love was doing, would give you the idea
and the belief that this Green Bay Packers team has
a very very good chance of being a team that
(21:07):
moves forward. And whether it's the third in a row,
third generation next to be the greatest quarterback and be
a Hall of Fame annointing a Hall of Fame quarterback
or not, I think we would all agree that he's
off to a good start. I mean, it wasn't even
for him. I said, it wasn't a crazy day for
Dak Prescott. Well, it wasn't a crazy day so much
(21:30):
for him. I mean, I thought, two forty five on
the day is a good that's a good number. You know,
it's not a horrible number. It's not like it's not
like he didn't have any real production. He put up
three tds, he protected the ball, there were no interceptions,
So he had a good day. He had a solid
day in the office. It wasn't a you know, world
(21:54):
beating performance, but it certainly was impressive to see what
he was able to do coming out in his debut.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So you kind of made the point. And I remember
we talked about this. One of the things that stood
out after Colorado's opener was Shador Sanders and how poised
he looked like. He looked like he was totally calm,
totally cool. You know, even if you know there was
a bad play or maybe the number, you know, if
(22:23):
just the play, you know, this play wasn't there, he
would get rid of the just there was a total
calmness to his performance. And I got the same vibe
with Jordan Love. And you can look at the box
score and you can look at it and and it's
similar to the Micah Parsons conversation that we just had.
You could look at just the box score and you
could say, wow, I mean, you know, he had what
one sack and a couple of pressures. I mean, that's
(22:44):
not really that that kind of performance is going to
get you Defensive Player.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Of the Year.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
But if you watch the game and don't look at
just the numbers, it tells you a different story.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Gives you a different feeling.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, if you watched the Packers Bears game yesterday, it
looked like Jordan Love was totally in control.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Like he's been the starter, yes for a while, totally
didn't look it didn't look like he was having like
first started game, you know, first game starting Jitters or
my first year as the starter without Aaron Jitters. It
just looked like we at the office, Yeah, and I
do this, and I'm really good at doing this, so
(23:25):
enjoy the show.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
That was kind of the feel he had, like he
almost if you saw him and they showed him on
the sideline a few times, they showed him on the
sideline a lot, he just had like more of a
like a relaxed, almost borderline nonchalant look, and it was
kind of Aaron Rodgers esque, Yeah, you know, like this
(23:47):
is what I do. Like, Yeah, give me my you know,
give me my propers. I'm gonna come back out there.
We're gonna do it again. I'm gonna come back out
and I'm a chill and we're gonna smile, but it's
gonna be like almost like a sarcastic smile, and we're
going to continue to just do what we do to
the Bears, which is when.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I mean I I don't know. Yeah, that's all they do.
I mean, I don't I don't know. Look, you're probably
not going to see a defense that played as poor
as Chicago did yesterday to where they couldn't get off
as we mentioned, off the field on third down and
fourth down, they weren't really able to get any pressure.
He had a bunch of time there. But as you mentioned,
look they weren't at full strength. I mean, there was
(24:26):
you know, they were missing some pieces there.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Injury report.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
And the fact that you take over for Rogers and
the first game that you take over when everybody's celebrating
Rogers and the Jets and they won the offseason and
their Super Bowl contenders, and the Packers aren't going to
be the same. And where do they put you on
the road in Soldier Field and you roll that out
(24:51):
and give them that kind of loss. That's that's impressive, man.
And And if you're a Packer fan right now and
you're listening, and I know we're on in Wisconsin, if
you're a Packer fan, you come away from that game going, yeah,
we may not see the same crummy defense that we
saw from the Bears.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But at least we got a guy who in a
pressure moment with a lot on the line and a
lot of people watching one of the feet one of
the featured late games on Fox. You get the number
one crew calling the game there in Chicago, and you
go out and dominate like that. That's and look, they've
got Atlanta on the road next week, do the Packers,
(25:30):
And then they've got New Orleans in Detroit, and then
the Raiders. Then you hit your bye week in week six.
I mean, there's a real opportunity. We're looking at a
team that's what gonna be three and two at worse.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Aaron Jones is a beast though.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Man, yeah, no's he's a stud, but beast, bro. The
Falcons are a winnable game. I mean, New Orleans didn't
look all that great. You're going to get them at home.
I just I look at it and I go, man,
this is off to a much better start, even though
it's one week than I think any But he could
have expected even if had they lost, but he still
performed the way he performed, you would feel good about it. Man.
(26:06):
He was fantastic and they won that game. Going away,
that game wasn't close, so good for good for the
Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
What does that mean for Justin? What does that mean
for your team?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Like you rolled it out very differently for the Cowboys
Giants game. And if I'm a Giants fan, and I mean,
if you're a Bears fan like Jonas Knox, what does
that mean?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I mean, that's just a reckless allegation here. Well, because
I have a solution, all right, because at this point,
if you're a Bears fan, you just gotta go ahead
and be brutally honest with yourself about the situation. There's
only one way to solve this. Okay, you got dominated
by Brett Fahr for a long time, then you got
dominated by Aaron Rodgers. You're one game man, and you
(26:48):
just got dominated by Jordan Love You you haven't been
able to figure out the quarterback position and they've had
thirty years of Hall of Fame play. So after yesterday, yeah, look,
it's like an eight hour drive. Just go join the CFL.
It's over. It's over, Like what are you gonna do?
And not to mention, the Lions look pretty good winning
(27:11):
on the road, I mean the Vikings. Yeah, that wasn't
ideal for anybody involved. I don't know how many people
had the Vikings losing to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and
Baker Mayfield in Week one, But it's just that's as
bad as it can as it could have gone for
the Bears, who watched the guy that they assume is
their franchise quarterback get completely outplayed by Jordan Love who's
(27:33):
been sitting on the bench for three years. So is
what it is, man, go to the CFLN, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Put together a rivalry with the Toronto Argonauts.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
There were some disappointments yesterday though, I'll tell you that man,
as a fan, I got disappointed yesterday.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I'll say that, yeah. That way.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
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Speaker 9 (30:10):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, LeVar.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Good morning, sir, guys.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
In case you missed this, uh tough news here, Michigan
State has suspended head coach Mel Tucker without pay amid
sexual harassment allegations.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Thank you there, LeVar.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
Amid amid sexual harassment allegations, he had allegedly sexually harassed
a uh sexual assault prevention advocate on campus. He admitted
to doing so.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
So he is now suspended without pay. He had just
signed a ten year, ninety five million dollar extension back
in November of twenty.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
One sexually assaulting a sexual harassment educator.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
So, yeah, that is right.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
This woman was you know, reportedly raped, you know, years
and years ago, and since then has become an activist
to speak out against it and to help, you know,
educate and talk with people. She visited Michigan State, who's
obviously had their issues with the Larry Nasser stuff that
(31:16):
came out, So there was that. She's visited there three
different times. She was an honorary captain for Michigan State
one game.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
A lot of access.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
H Yeah, and mel Tucker admits.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Too consensual, Well, it wasn't even consensual interactions. He admits
to pleasuring himself on the phone with her. And she
was just like in her statement in the report when
she filed the complaint was like I just was kind
(31:53):
of frozen like, is this guy like really doing this,
knowing my background, knowing what's happening, really doing this? And
Meucker admitted to it and then tried to say, well
it was consensual s right, Yeah, okay, But like I
think everybody acknowledges that mel Tucker got like one of
the great contracts, Like other than the fact that just
(32:15):
the obvious, which is, what are you doing, dude, like
read the room and understand the background before we make.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
A ruin that you understand the background?
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Like just how hard is that to understand she's a
sexual harassment?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah, that's my pator.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well what do you like? What are you thinking? What
goes through your mind?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And then on top of that, the contract he got
for basically one decent year at Colorado I think it
was the COVID year, and then he had the one
decent year of Michigan State. He ended up with a
ninety million dollars deal set for life, and he figured
out a way to probably get fired with cause yes,
(32:56):
there's no way you.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Bring it back when they make the decision with no,
you know, he goes what do you well?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Like on every level, one of the dumbest things I've
ever like, I can't. It's it's shocking.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
That's that's that is tremendously dumb. That is over the top,
across the line off the cliff dump.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I mean, look, you can read the details on USA
Today did a really lengthy and explained every single aspect
of it. You can read the details, and you just
come away from that going what a weirdo? Like, just
the guy's a weirdo and and now he's probably gonna
be out of a job, and I can't imagine. Yeah,
(33:41):
it's just unbelievable that that was the decision that Mel
Tucker made and admitted to it, you know as well too,
So it's not like.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
This is about poor judgment. Yeah, what else.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
We got leave guys?
Speaker 9 (33:54):
In case you missed, Tom Brady was recognized Sunday at
halftime during the loss of the Eagles. Yeah, and ducted
into the New England Patriots Hall of Fame, which is
noteworthy because it's before It usually takes four years before
a player is allowed to be inducted into the Hall
of Fame of the New England Patriots, but Robert Kraft
made an exception for the goat.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean, look, you know it's the least he could do.
So I guess that means that Brady's not coming back.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
To play, right, I guess. I guess we're good with this.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
He went there, watched the game, hung out, got a
little emotional, got the crowd hyped up, and you know,
now he's just on the bigger and better things. By
the way, isn't he doing something with like Delta Airlines
now too?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
He's the new ambassador of Delta Airlines? How about that?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Which is weird?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Were they were they the flight that somebody craft themselves
and they had to turn it around and and go
I almost positive that was Delta?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Or have customer service desk? Well that's why you have
to get rebooked.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
And it wasn't that right?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
No one's there, Labar.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
You guys are the same drive.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Pay people to go on your social media and harass
you because you get a video about talking about Lamar.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You guys are in the same draft class. Can't you
hook you up with like, you know, a couple of
vouchers or something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
You'd be all right, yeah, wow, it'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
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