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Man oh Man, it is looking dire for the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Some thoughts on that in a minute.
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This Memorial Day weekend obviously a major shout out to
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all the veterans, especially the men and women that laid
their lives down so we could be free. That's first
and foremost. And now we get to games which are
definitely of secondary importance. But man, the Minnesota Timberwolves, Jason,
they had a two point lead with five minutes to
go last night and they lost by nine.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I think about that.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
They're up by two with five minutes to go and
they get out scored thirteen to three down the stretch,
and they are in an O three series.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Hole.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Man, this thing is a rap. And you've had three
straight games that are coin tosses in the fourth quarter
and none of them have gone the Timberwolves way. They
just don't have the closers that Dallas does. And it's
apparent every single game it comes down to closing, and
Minnesota can't close in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Can That's right?
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I mean, you said it exactly correct. There's not really
anything to add to that take. There is no question
that you have two assassinstead are playing at the highest
level right now in Dallas, and you have the others
that are just coming right along for that ride, and
they're not just being carried along, but they do have
two guys that can carry them.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Now.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
On the flip side, you've got Anthony Edwards, who I
think he's a little banged up, but he is very tired.
Even though he tried everything he could last night to
bring it back, including that incredible dunk where you just
felt like the momentum could shift for them, and they
still weren't able to find a way to close.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
And then you have just.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
The the baffling nature of how Karl Anthony Towns has
decided he's going to play his career.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
And I don't think there's any.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Way other to look at it than he doesn't want contact.
He doesn't want physicality. I don't know if he's afraid
of the way that the game's being officiated or what,
but he's just gonna stand out there and take three.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
He is.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
He's not a waste as a as a player, but
he's a waste of his size because he does not
play anywhere near as big as he actually is. He
did not physical he does not generate contact very often
at all.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
He just wants to stand out.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
There and take threes like he wishes he was six three,
but instead he just happens to be big and when
he's zero for seven, but he's still not forcing the
issue on the inside. I mean, it'd be different, Brian,
if he was, you know, sixty sixty five percent in
the paint, working hard and stepping out and taking that
three here and there. I mean, he would be such
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a better well rounded player. It just seems like he
has no interest at this point in doing that. And
it is a massive flaw that you know, you look
at that team, he should be the two. He should
be the second best option on that squad. But honestly,
I'd rather have nas Red any day of the week
because I trust what not and nas REI didn't play
great last night, but Naz Reed is out there doing
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absolutely everything for you in Towns.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
At times, it's just.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Like, why do you play the way that you play?
So that's it's the whole office meme. I hate all
the things that you choose to be. Like, as as
big as he is, he should play with that size
and the fact that he does it is incredibly bothersome.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Man, he was five for eighteen last night, and from
three point range, which is what you're talking about. He
was for eight over and the stats just go from there, right.
Charles Barkley was outspoken last night. Karl Anthony Towns from
three the last five games, he is four for thirty two.
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He just not making threes and he keeps on jacket
up threes It's like he's sticking with.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
What isn't working.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
What's the definition of insanity, right, That's what's going on
there with Karl Anthony Towns. And I get that shooting
from the perimeter is a big part of his game,
but look, man, if that part of your game is
not working at all, you gotta change it up and
you gotta take advantage of your size, and he just
refuses to do that in the fourth quarter of this series.
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Some more horrible stats for kat here Jason. He's two
for twelve in the fourth quarter. Just in this series
against Dallas, He's one for eight from three point range.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So when they need him the.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Most, when it's closing time, when it's winning time, he's
just not delivering at all. And it could not be
more obvious. Again, all three of these games could have
gone Minnesota's way. You go back to Game two, Minnesota
was up by five in the final minute and you
had Kyrie hit a corner three, you had Luca hit
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the insane step back over Rudy Gobert, and Minnesota they
had the Anthony Edwards turnover out of bounds. Nasried had
a shot that barely rimmed out. But that's the thing
is saying, oh, man, so close Minnesota, and you look
at Dallas and it's just clutch shot, clutch jy like
Luca doing his thing in Game two, Kyrie clutch baseline
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jumper last night. It's just Dallas has closed every single
time in Minnesota has it. It's been crazy to watch.
But it is so drastically different between these two teams.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
No, I mean it is.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
And you look at you know, acquiring Gafford, acquiring PJ.
Washington at the trade deadline. I mean, they just quietly
got guys that made them better, guys that were in
terrible situations. I thought it was interesting with Gafford on
the set last night on TV, just you know, being
asked by Charles Barkley, you know, what was it, like,
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how many of those moments did you have when you
felt like maybe I can't play basketball after all? Because
of how bad it was in the situations he found
himself in. And he said he wasn't saying it to
dog out Gafford. He said there were times in filled
I would get to the hotel and say, man, I.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Suck at basketball, right because we.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Aren't winning, and it's just I thought I was better
than this and say, so, what is it like to
go from that situation to go to a situation where
instead of walking in every night expecting to lose, you
walk in every night knowing there's a chance for you
to win a game.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
And just to look on Gafford's face, you could just
see it right there.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Like they're playing right alongside these two guys who were
at the highest level, and they're doing everything for them
even when live and when Lively went down, I was
a big deal. That changed the way Dallas wanted to attack,
and certainly you hope the best for Lively.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
That looked really ugly.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
In real time, and I don't know if he comes
back for the next game or not. They said it
was a next strain, but boy, it's sure look concussive
to me, the way you could barely stand even after
the commercial break. But what Luca and Kyrie are doing,
I don't know how how you say it other than
it's just unreal to watch.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
But the fact of the matter is in both the.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Series, actually in the Eastern Conference Finals, which probably we'll
predict it but certainly could come to an end tonight,
and then the Western Conference Finals, which may be right
behind it you have one team that looks ready, even
if they're not at all times firing on all cylinders.
I think Dallas has been the most impressive of the
four teams so far in the conference finals. But Indiana
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can't close. They find a way to have a bad inbounds,
or they allow Jamin Brown to take a three that
he shouldn't be allowed to take, or they lose the
lead when they're up eighteen nineteen points in the first half,
you know, it just doesn't look like they're quite fully
formed yet, and the other team, it feels like, Okay,
maybe it's their time. You already knew what the Celtics
had the MAVs. I honestly did not see this coming.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
I was waiting for this to kind of blow up
in their face at some point in the postseason, and
it just absolutely has not. They've been outstanding and it's
hard to bet against them right now, because again, when
Kyrie plays like this and then you have Luca making
the kind of shots that he is making, it's tough
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to see a team beating them. Although I'd love to
have the debate later on in the show as to
whether or not they could have beaten Denver. Yeah, yeah,
because I think that's where you got. It's like Denver
and Yokichi, even said Brian. He said the Timberwolves were
built to beat us, just the way that matchup was
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set up. They were built to beat us. But Denver
is built to beat Dallas and most everybody else. I
don't think that Minnesota is a good matchup at all
for the Dallas Mavericks as close.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
As these games have actually been.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
And so you look at you like, but if we
had gotten Denver in Dallas, what would our discussions be
looking like right now? But we don't, and what we
have in front of us is an excellent Mavericks team.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It is pretty crazy that if you just look at
Minnesota last series against Denver, in this series against Dallas,
just think about how the previous series went, where it's
a seven game series, Minnesota wins three games on the
road in Denver. These are the defending champs. This is
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Jokic right raigning MVP. Joki is the MVP three of
the last four seasons. And Minnesota goes in there in
a Game seven in the second half Jason and just
shuts them down, And you're like, man, this Minnesota team Wow,
They've got Anthony Edwards, this young superstar and their defense,
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and then you get to this series against Dallas and
three coin flip games in the fourth quarter don't go
their way. And I don't know what it is. It's
it's a combination of things. It's really Dallas being elite
at closing games in Minnesota. Not that's the biggest factor,
But I wonder how much of this is. It's so
hard to sustain that level of defense series after series
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after series, and you just can't see them sustain that
throughout the entire playoffs. They're starting to wear down. But
that's the thing, man, I think sometimes we go into
movie trailer mode when we're breaking games in series.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Down, you know where it's like in a world.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And we just start going over the top when it
comes to that type of thing. I just think that listen,
Minnesota is a little bit tired, and sometimes in a series,
when you get to this stage, that makes a huge difference.
So it isn't all movie trailer mode. It's just Dallas
is closing at an elite level. In Minnesota, they're not
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even closing at a basic level. They they came undone Jason,
I had Minnesota last night in a variety of betting ways.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Okay, they had.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
To get to one hundred and nine points, they had
to win the game in one bet, they had to
just not lose by more than five on an in
game line, you know. And I'm sitting there with five
minutes to go, like this is beautiful. They have one
oh four with five minutes to go and a two
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point lead. I'm like, I'm in a great spot here,
and it was just swinging a miss, swinging a miss,
swinging a miss. They just and it's weird to say
that with Anthony Edwards, Karl Anthony Town's a legitimate supporting cast,
but they are not even close to closing. This would
be like a baseball closer who seems to be pretty good,
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just playoff time freaking unraveling, you.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Know what I mean, Like, just give it up big hits,
give it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Up home runs. That's what Minnesota has done here. But
on the heels of that Denver series, it has been baffling, man, craziness.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
We got a lot to get to this morning.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Here.
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coming up next. There was one thing that happened last
night where it's gonna sound like I'm against an entire
system and I'm not at all, but something that we
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air last night. That's coming up next. He's Jason Martin.
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Brian Know, he's Jason Martin and for two Pros and
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So Jason hopefully will be reconnected with Jason here in
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you're like, isn't Jason on this show? Oh man, Noah's
being really greeny today, That's the reason why, right, So,
just so we're all on the same page, Here's something
that happened last night where I'm gonna sound like I'm
anti replay and I'm not at all okay, but let
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me just cut to the chase. Because in the MAVs
Timberwolves game last night, both teams were out of challenges
early in the game. It's like Minnesota challenged an offensive
foul on Anthony Edwards as a fast break, he ran
down the middle of the lane. Luca drew the charge.
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In Minnesota challenged and it wasn't even correct. The call
didn't get overturned. They burned their challenge, have no ability
to challenge in the entire second half. It was just stupid.
And Dallas challenged early in the game. Also, they were
out of challenges. And I'm watching the game last night
and I'm like, man, it's refreshed that no one has challenges.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Because I'm not against replay.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I want obviously blown calls to be corrected, but it's
everything that goes along with it. Where when there were
no challenges left last night, it was just refreshing where
every call that's what the call was gonna be. And
more importantly, it was as a fan, you don't have
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to sit there watching, Hey, is that gonna count?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Are they gonna challenge it?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I'm constantly thinking that when I'm watching these games and
in the NBA what also goes along with the challenge system.
I don't know how many times during a game, if
you played a drinking game, for every time a player
was just twirling his index finger just twirling it toward
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his bench, like challenge that challenge that it's off that guy,
or I didn't foul him or whatever. It All game long,
it like constantly happening where I didn't foul him, it
was off of him. Challenge it, challenge it, and half
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the time you're like, we're out of challenges. We don't
have the ability to challenge. That's my beef where I'm
not against replay. It sounds like I am I swear
I am not. It's just everything that goes along with it.
Where it was refreshing last night where you could just
sit there enjoy a game and not worry of oh man,
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that was a clutch shot.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Is it gonna count? Are they gonna challenge it? Are
they gonna reverse it?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You just watched it for what it was, took it
in and it was all good. But I'm not against replay.
I'm just against most of what comes along with replay.
And we didn't have to deal with that last night.
It was refreshing.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
You know what's most like sort of irritating about that
because it was happening, but the fact that they use
their challenges so fast just you knew they weren't gonna
be able to do it later.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Is you know who's a.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Horrible witness the players themselves? Because how many times have
we then gone to watch the replay. It's like, what
are you asking him to challenge? Like you clearly hacked
that guy. You want to talk about challenging something. Can
we just challenge Tony Brothers being unwatchably terrible as an official?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Like I saw somebody I was watching.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
I was kind of paying attention to a Dallas Minnesota
fan for him last night that was following the game,
and they were just they were just lamenting Tony Brothers
just continually, and I mean he was flat out bad.
And one of them said he must be the pettiest
official in the history of the NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
They're like, where's Scott Foster when you need him?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Like he was They had a quick trigger, especially in
the first half, and then it got better in the
second half, but the actual officiating itself, and I don't
think you could say, well, it was in the tank
for Minnesota or in the tank for Dallas, because I
think basketball fans we were the losers overall, but the
whole like raise the finger and say, yep, you got
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to challenge that one, and then when we see the replay,
it's like, what, No, there was clearly a foul or
there clearly wasn't this I don't think.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I don't think replay.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Was intended to fix every foul. And so I'm glad
to imagine the game. If you had ten challenges a team,
it'd be unwatchably bad. So you know that there has
to be a limit on it. It almost feels like
you should have like one a game or something, because
it definitely destroys the flow of a basketball game.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, and they're talking about maybe adding another one where
if you get your first two challenges correct, you would
get a third challenge. And I don't know the exact
best way to do it, Jason at maybe it's lessening
the amount of challenges instead of adding to them, or
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like you just said, maybe you only get won a
game and that's it. I don't know what the answer is.
It's tough because NBA basketball it is the toughest thing
to officiate on the face of the earth man.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
These guys are so fast.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
The Tony Brothers call last night, there was one that
he got right where it was a travel on Luka Doncic.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
He jumped in the.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Air and came down and it was just a millisecond
before he passed it to Daniel Gafford, who made a shot.
That was a big call, and Tony Brothers was right
about that. I remember thinking at the time, I'm like,
I don't know how you get that right in live,
real time, you know what I mean. It is not
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an easy call to get right. And so I know
we crushed them for everything they get wrong, but some
of the calls they get right, I'm like, I don't
even know how that ref got that call right. It
is so difficult to officiate in the NBA. But man,
the challenge system it does it wrecks the flow. I
don't know what the solution is where it's got to
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be more streamlined. If there is a challenge, it can't
take as long as it does. It's got to be
like tennis, as close to tennis as possible. We have
zero problem with the challenge system in tennis because it's
so quick. My players, like, I think that ball was
in let's challenge.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
It and it was.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
In all right on with life, you know, And it's
got to be closer to that in the NBA because
these anytime they replay something, you're like, oh my gosh,
the replay is done, the call has been withheld, and
the green light is still blinking. It's like, guys, we
got to tighten the screws on this whole challenge system
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in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Yeah, And it does seem kind of amazing to me
down the stretching these games. How many times the ball
goes out of bounds and somehow touched both players within
like four fractions of a second. Yeah, And so they
have to look at it a million times, even though
it does seem like when you slow it down enough,
which I don't know if that's the best thing, but
if you're gonna get it.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Right, I guess get it right. When you slow it
down enough, you can clearly see it.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
And yet it still takes a couple of extra minutes
because they're gonna watch it from ninety five different angles
or whatever else that they might have. But you just
kind of you don't want these games to be artificially
dramatic because there's eight thousand pauses plus all the timeouts
in the last couple of minutes.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I don't know what the fix is because there's too much.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Riding on these games and so you're gonna use your
timeouts and you're gonna do all this gamesmanship, and you
are gonna challenge all these plays and all this, but
it does not enhance the experience as an entertainment product,
which I still think ultimately is should be their number
one goal.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Right, Yeah, that's the thing, man, the constant you know,
index finger twirling challenge it. I'll tell you this, man,
I don't want them to add more challenges if it
takes this long. I go back to Hey, if you're
I get that, you want to get the calls, right.
I understand that in some of these calls, even with
slow mo replay from many angles, you're like.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Man, that's close.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Did that guy barely touch the ball before it went
out of bounds? But you gotta streamline it. If you're
adding more challenges potentially going forward, it's got to be
streamlined where if it isn't clear and obvious that the
call should be overturned, you stick with the original call.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And we move on with life.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
You know, like, you can't slow it down and look
at it seventy two times before you decide, eh, there's
not enough there to overturn it.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
We're gonna stick with it.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
It's like, you should know that within the first couple
of replays. If it's not clear and obvious, stick with
the original call, let's move this thing along.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
And then they just don't.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And so I don't want a world where we have
even more of that until it's streamlined.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I don't want more challenges.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And it was a breath of fresh air no challenges
in the second half last night, and you could just
react in lifetime whatever the call was, You're like, Okay,
that's what it is. We've got Eddie Garcia with us
this morning. Always a treat to hear from mister Garcia.
He's gonna spin us around here in the sporting landscape.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
What is going on Eddie?
Speaker 8 (24:25):
Wow, mister Garcia sounds.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Like take it when you can get it, Buddy's good respect.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
No, I like that, and also the surprise in his
voice that I was working on holiday, which is not
It's not untrue, it is not untrue. Let's start off
in the NBA, as you guys are talking about Game
three Western Conference Finals, the Mavericks topping the Timberwolves again
one sixteen to one oh seven, Dallas outscoring Minnesota fourteen
to three in the final five minutes. Luca Dodgicch and
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Kyrie Irving each thirty three points in the wind for Minnesota.
Their high score was Anthony Edwards with twenty six carl
Anthony Towns four teen points five of eighteen from the field.
Dallas lead that series now three games to nothing. Game
four will be Tuesday in Dallas, also won. Injury note,
Derek Wively for the Mavericks took a knee to the head,
didn't return, diagnosed with a next brain we got Game
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four the Eastern Conference Finals coming up tonight. Celtics, with
a win on the road in Indiana, wrap up the
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deflected in the game winner in sudden death. For New York,
Alexis Slafrier and Barkley Gudro each had a pair of
goals as well. New York grabs a two to one
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leading the series. Game four Tuesday in Florida. Baseball News
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suicide over the weekend. The event was finished at the
request of Murray's family. Now back to Brian known Jason
Martin Tyrack dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Thank you, Eddie, great job as always, man and man, Jason,
what a story as they did not.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Want to play yesterday. You could see it.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Yeah, those guys their heart was firmly just in the
in their throats during that.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
That was sure. Man, what a horrible, horrible story.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yeah, because it was Look, he competed on Friday and
he stopped playing. He cited in illness, right, and so
he didn't finish the round on Friday and then passed away.
And you're like, holy cow, this guy's thirty years old.
What happened because he cited in illness and You're like,
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what was this a heart attack? What happened in the family.
They let it be known on Saturday that it was
he died by suicide. And man, like you said, Jason,
just the golfers out there in some of the comments
and the emotion, right, like, it's hard to push through.
That's the thing, man, we look at these athletes like
their robots and whatever's happening in their real life. Just
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push through and make it happen, you know. And there
are some things in life like this where you could
have been a close friend of Grace and Murray and
you got to go back out there and get through
eighteen holes in the mental focus that it takes.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Not easy at all. But that was just tragic.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
My heart goes out to the family.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
But I thought that was really cool where they said no, no,
he would want the tournament to finish, so let's go
all systems go here. I thought that was pretty neat.
But man, that was I don't even know the right
words that was.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
It's just tragical.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah, tragic's right.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
I mean, he's a thirty year old man who had
a whole life in front of him and he didn't
see that. And mental illness is a it's a real thing.
It's been around for a long time, and you just
it's it's just a good reminder that the people in
your life hug their neck when you see them. Just
make sure they know that they're cared for, and it
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doesn't seem like grace and Murray didn't have that. I mean,
you talk about his parents, he was loved, and some
of the things that was said in that statement. I
think it's important to remember that, you know, we are
we are so dependent I think, in this in this life,
in this world on the people around us, and we
have to remember it's like, what would it be for
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us if we felt completely alone? And remember that when
you see those people that you truly love and let
them know, it's like, man, I'm just so appreciative for
you and what you mean to me and what you
are in our life, and I'm so glad that that
crisis puts you in our life and things like that,
Like it's a super important thing to do. I don't
know if it if it if it would have been
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enough in this case.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
If he needed more of that, or what it is.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
But just somebody dying at thirties is not a thing
that is supposed to happen. Parents are not supposed to
bury their children, and that's that's unfortunately for the Murray family,
that's what they had to do.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, that's one of the things if you think about
this story and how you could apply it to your life.
You know, there was a golfer, I apologize, I don't
remember which one it was, but he said this whole thing,
this story got him to think that he wanted to
say something nice to someone close in his life every
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single day. And he's like, I want to say something
nice to someone I don't know every single day. And
I was like, that's a really interesting thought. But man,
I think about that too, just how I'm wired. There
was another golfer I think it was Keegan Bradley who
said he saw Grayson Murray, this thirty year old golfer
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who committed suicide this weekend. He said he saw Grayson
Murray and Keegan said, man, he looks great. He looks
like he's in great shape. And he didn't say anything.
And I just thought about that too. I don't know
how many times I'll think in my own mind of
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a compliment, right, whether it's for a loved one, it's
someone I don't know, and it really is important to
not just think it, but to say it because it
and be uplifting. And I don't know if that would
have helped things, and Grayson Murray would still be with us.
I have no idea, but I know there's a lot
of positivity when you do let compliments be known. And
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that's something I want to do because I'll think it
a lot of times and I just won't say it
for whatever reason. Maybe it's just not a comfort zone
type thing. But there is real power and being complimentary
to people that can stick with you and it can
make a huge difference. And I'm not saying that Grayson
Murray had a lack of that in his life and
that's why we are where we are. I'm not saying
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any of that. I'm just saying if there's anything positive
to take out of a horrible, horrible situation, maybe that's
it is. Just be more complimentary in your own life
because that can make a difference with somebody else's life.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's incredibly well said, and
I think this is gonna be it's more of a
localized story just because of where I do the show
from here in Nashville, but back when I was kind
of on my daily.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Beat, and one of the most is something that's really
stuck with me.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Mike Vrabel, the former coach of the Titans with AJ
Brown before AJ left, and you know AJ's Aj, and
you can you can poke holes and attitudes and egos
and all these things. But something Vrabel said that that
I felt like is is just full of wisdom and
something we can all take with us. And this I
think it applies in this situation as well. And even
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to what Kegan Bradley had to say about he didn't
say anything usually they're probably not, but I remember Rabel
saying that. At one point he ran into AJ Brown
just in the facility. They said, hey man, how are you?
And Aj said, you know what, coach, I'm not doing
so well. And Rabel's point, and he even said it,
he goes, if you're going to ask that question, be
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willing to stand there, look the man in the eyes
and actually let him answer it and hear him. Most
people are going to blow that off, right, Hey man,
hey b how are you well? I'm good, I'm good
even if you're not right right, But if you actually
like that's not a pleasantry, or it shouldn't necessarily be
just a pleasantry where you're just hey, how are you?
Speaker 5 (33:11):
And then you look down and you keep on walking.
It's like, hey, how are you?
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Wait for them to answer and be willing to accept
that answer when it comes through. You never know, if
you actually stop for half a second make eye contact
with him, you might see enough to say you sure
you okay, bro, just check it in on you man,
appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Something like that.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
So I thought that was that was fair to bring
into this discussion as well. If you want to talk
about saying something nice to somebody, also, you know, be
willing to ask that question with emphasis and behind it
as opposed to just asking it as just the kind
of thing that we do as human beings.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah. No, it's it's well said, man.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
And I think there was a story that was just
in the news where ESPN did this story on Blake Anderson.
He is, he's the head coach at Utah State. He's
the head football coach over there, and he had a
son who committed suicide, and he was very transparent with
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his players and let him know about the situation, everything
that went through it. And the point was he needed
to be transparent with his story with his family so
that his players could be transparent with anything that they
were going through. And there were a couple of players
that went to him and said, exactly what you said, Jason, like,
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you know, coach, I'm not doing well at all, man,
And he was able through the program to get those
players to help that they needed and they're in a
better place right now. But I think that's another thing
is if someone's honest with you, like aj Brown was
with Mike Rabel of like, hey, coach, I'm not doing
well right now, that that's something that's serious, you know.
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And that's something I think day to day that you
can have a tendency to just sort of brush off
like you're not okay. You know what, you'll get them tomorrow.
You know that there might be something seriously there. And look,
I'm no medical professional, but I'll say this, if someone
does say that to me, I'm going to take it
a lot more seriously instead of just brushing it off
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and and and ask a few more follow up questions
and maybe hopefully help things out. But yeah, we're in
this day and age, man, where yeah I'm a little down.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Today could mean a whole lot more than just that.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Yeah, I think it's just I think it's important to
keep it in mind. I know we need to get
to break, but you know, we were not We were
not put here to do life by ourselves.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
We just weren't. We were.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
We were put here for community, we were put here
for assembly, we were put here for each other. And
so it's it's very important to remember to.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Love your neighbor. It really really is. And the easiest
way to.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Do it is just think about if you were on
the other side of it, what would you need in
that moment? Yeah, and most people would just need someone
They would need someone else in that moment to be
there for them and to reflect love to them.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yeah. No, well said man Hey.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
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Have you seen the new slimmer Trimmer Lamar Jackson, huh,
Baltimore Ravens quarterback.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
He's lost a lot of weight here Jason.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Where he was pretty thick last year and he's down
at least ten. It's a noticeable difference, and Lamar says
that it's important enough to be able to move around
a little bit extra.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Is why he dropped the weight. I don't know about you.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That was never a question for me about Lamar Jackson
is moving around like well enough, he's totally finding that department,
but he wanted to slim down to move around even
a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
I just wonder because that's been the knock on Lamar.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
It's been the durability concerns, and I thought the extra
bulk helped out with that. He played sixteen games last season,
and yet he's slimming down. I don't think that's a
great approach, but hey man, if it makes him feel better,
maybe it'll be better. I don't know, but that's never
been the question for me. Is him moving around more?
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And I thought the weight helped him. And this is
off the heels of a full season when he was
upright and he's switching it up.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
What do you think about this?
Speaker 6 (37:56):
I'man the last critique that I would have of Lamar
jacksonthing involving added mobility Achilly Speed. Never looked at Lamar Jackson,
be like, man, if only he was a little faster,
or if only if only he was able to maneuver
just a little bit smoother. I mean, if that's I mean,
he knows his own body, and maybe he needed this because,
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I mean, you have to come up with something because
this Baltimore team you look at last year and the
pathway that you felt like that they had and they
still aren't able to make it to a super Bowl,
and you're looking at it just well, what was the problem?
Credit to Lamar for not immediately just well, somebody on
the team needs to do this, this, this, and this.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
It's always him.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
I mean, he's he always does kind of take it
on himself the failures of the team. And you appreciate that,
although eventually he needs to stop doing that because they're
not having those kind of failures. But I would be
worried that it would make him even more susceptible to
injury or getting knocked around.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
But I said, just I mean, he just.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Felt like I didn't look at him last year and think, man,
he's fat, he seems he seems a step slow.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
No, he's still looked awfully good to me. So I
guess we will see.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
I don't know that it's going to change anything for
the Ravens, but maybe it's just a mental thing. Maybe
it's just here's something I can control. I can lose
ten pounds and I think that might give me a
little bit more of an edge. And athletes are always
looking for that extra one percent if they can. So
you know, I guess who were we? But that's definitely
not That's definitely not what I would have looked at
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and been like, Man, Lamar Jackson's got to find a.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Way to move more.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Lamar isn't quite Tom Brady running the forty at the combine.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Right right, Like, Lamar is one of.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
The best athletes in sports, So I didn't think he
needed to add speed to his game. But that's what
he's looking to do. I think, listen, man, if we're
being completely honest, Lamar is staying healthy.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Most of it is decision making.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
There are a lot of times where he just takes
unnecessary punishment.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
I love that he runs.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I'm not against him running because that's what makes him special.
I'm against him taking unnecessary hits, and he's had a
tendency in his career to do just that, where he's
trying to get those extra two yards and he's not
gonna go out of bounds. He's gonna take that extra punishment,
and it's like, you only have so many hits. So
I think it's more so the decision making that it
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is having more bulk or slimming down or what have you.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
But I do think that goes into it.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Tua is slimming down also, and that's weird to me too.
He played a full season when he was bulked up
a little bit, and now he's slimming down. It's just
strange where they had successful seasons, they played full seasons,
and now they're changing it up slimming down. I thought
it helped a bit, takes some extra punishment, but they're
looking to do things differently going into this season.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Yeah, you losing ten pounds isn't gona get your way
Receivers open and you finding them with the ball. Maybe
it makes you a little harder to hit in the pocket.
Maybe that's the thought. I don't know what it is.
We'll have to see.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting one for sure. All Right,
we got a lot on the menu here. You know,
this is a full buffet. Ball, hoops, baseball, maybe a
little racing. The conversation continues.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Hang with us,