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May 25, 2024 41 mins

LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress talk about the landmark ruling that allows NCAA schools to directly pay players, Former Notre Dame QB & 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe host Brady Quinn stops by to give his thoughts on this new development, the latest on Scottie Scheffler’s arrest, and more!

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to in a matter of moments. The NCAA Power five
conferences agree to deal that will let schools pay players directly.

(01:31):
Can't wait to get the guy's opinions on that. Brady
Quinn from Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Yeah,
my partner in crime. During the course of the week,
he'll be joining us. I'm sure he'll want to weigh
in on the Power five paying conversation as well as
other topics surrounding football and sports. Maybe depends on what

(01:54):
the guys want to talk to him about. So that'll
be pretty fun. That there's a lot going on in
the NBA. We got cups, the legend he'll be on.
We don't usually talk golf, but I mean we will
touch on some golf. I mean there's some you know,
developments with Scottie Shuffler. Oh, I want to touch on it.
We're gonna touch on this a little bit, if you
know what I mean. No Diddy, But before we get going, TJ,

(02:17):
how you feeling, man, how's everything going?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Ah? Man? You know, I'm good.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
You know, we don't have exactly clear skies, but we
got some. It's not gloomy, it's not clear. It's that
in between. But you know, I can't complain, man, this
is this is a new normal. This is a normal.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
I can't I can't believe you are accepting this. You
are accepting of the fact that this is the new norm.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Like consistently like this, Now, what the hell is going on?
It's not cold, It's just not what I'm what I
grew up in. This is just it's so weird, but
it's I guess it's the new normal. So I got
to get used to it. I can't understand it.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
I would like to have one sunny day where I
woke up because the sun, like what what California sun does?
Pops up on you and it wakes you up unless
you have your your whole room drowned out with like
dark shades and stuff like that because it's so sunny

(03:18):
in California. I would love for that to be the
scenario that we have. But I mean, maybe they get
that on the East coast. How you feeling stretched out?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Man?

Speaker 7 (03:26):
Stop complaining for the last two weekends. It's all here
you guys talking about Oh.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's the last two three four months for real.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Yeah, two weeks so y'all having basically having a California
winter is what we have over here.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
On the East coast, a California winner. I mean, this
is just California back.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
It's not cold, Lexus. It's seventy five degrees a day,
but it's like it's.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Supposed to be like eighty five ninety.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
Sonny, Hey, what kind of use of those things over here?
So we're used to that.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Dog, Hey, we're gonna start act.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's like, y'all the sun not shining.

Speaker 7 (04:02):
So you know what, when the sun is shining on
your back in the morning, your face in the morning,
you wake up, you're a lot better mood on you.
You feel better, bud you Yeah, you just wait. We're
used to that. We gotta get up and fight through
it constantly all the time.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
We got to learn I gotta learn that, man, I
gotta learn that.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Hey, bruh, where you at plex people wake up, they
walk in the street, people will be like one nice person,
good morning.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Everybody'd be like if.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
You California, somebody wake up, they'd be like, hey, good morning.
You know, they like, good morning, I got you doing good?

Speaker 4 (04:36):
How you doing? Oh, They're gonna.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Start saying that fe around here, man, that's how bad,
that's how gloomy it is out here in California. But
I'll tell you what is in Gloomy fellas getting paid
in the national Uh oh, I mean.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Uh college football.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Not the National Basketball Association, not the National Football League.
In college they are now in a place where five
power conferences have agreed to allow schools to directly pay
players for the first time in the one hundred plus

(05:15):
year history of college sports.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Now it's not all the way clear. We'll figure out.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
There's antitrusts, there's damages being paid, there's agreements, there's federal stuff.
We're gonna bring Brady Quinna on in the second segment.
He's pretty pretty knowledgeable on stuff like this, so it'd
be pretty cool to hear what he has to say
about it. But in terms of the anti trust and
legal stuff. But how you guys feel now? Do you

(05:45):
think that this is a good thing for college sports?
That especially, I mean just looking at it from a
football perspective? Is this a good thing that now the
schools are able to pay directly as opposed to it
have to go through a different entity, like a collective
in order for the players.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
To be paid.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
Man, there's so many layers to this, it really is,
because this is what everybody has wanted for decades, and
the NCAA finally realized, like, we're gonna have to do
something because this NIL is getting out of control. And

(06:31):
if I'm not mistaken, every Power five conference has what
twenty million dollars per team that they can pay their players.
Now how that is divided and divvied up, we don't know. Obviously,
I would assume the five stars are gonna get the most,
so forth, and so on, four stars, three stars. You know,
that's how it's gonna work. But this is where it

(06:54):
gets tricky, is it's gonna have to be some financial
education that comes with this. Now, some financial literacy, because
you're giving money to kids that have never filed taxes.
You gotta file taxes now and file taxes. So now
when that happens you it has to be some type
of financial literacy that comes with that, some financial education

(07:16):
on how to manage that in planing. And so that's
a good thing for the player the student because you
are learning something that you would not have learned that soon.
But you're also getting money that you would have never
ever received that soon also, And so for me, does

(07:37):
this slow down to transfer portal? Because if I give
a kid X amount and you hit that portal, you
got to pay me back.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
It's contractual. It's going to start being contracts being given out.
That's why it's going to slow down.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
And it's going to slow down a portal. And that's
my point. This is.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
To star people from entering the portal so much. You
think they just all of a sudden said, oh, we
gonna pay these kids. No, they tired of this transfer portal.
They tired of these kids getting in the portal and
demanding a huge sum of money. And so the portal
will no longer be what it's been. And so that

(08:20):
will be the entry. Because if you give a kid
one hundred and fifty grand, he goes and spends thirty
five thousand dollars at that one hundred and fifty grand
and he decides he wants to transfer.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
You think he got thirty five thousand dollars to pay
you back?

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Where you're gonna get another It's not from pay it back,
you know it's not.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
And now now it's litigation, and so I like it.
It's long overdue. It will be a ton of, like
I said earlier, a ton of financial literacy, because there's
so much that the resources, your health benefits, like you'll

(08:53):
need all that just to be sustained throughout life. And
they're gonna have to get this to you. They're gonna
have to teach you this at an earlier age. So
you're gonna get a head start on the right path.
It's just when you get that head start, can you
maintain it? Can you do something with it? Because gods
is gonna get paid coming y'all, two sons, they gonna

(09:16):
be really good players.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
They getting paid going into college.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Now that's a guarantee because when you're a four star
and they bullshit at least minimum be four stars, they
getting paid right away and they know come correct or
don't come at all. And so that's a good thing
for the player. Parents like you two, your kids will
be all right. But the parents that don't have that
background like you guys, like we have, and like others

(09:40):
may have what happens.

Speaker 7 (09:43):
Well, I just have a few questions. When I saw
this is exactly what I thought about it. At the
same thing TJ said was this is to really not
stop and try to put a slow down to the
portal because because of what's happening in college football, it's
a disaster. But does every player on a Division one

(10:05):
Power five roster receive compensation? You plex, I believe every player?
Is it like a pel grind as far as you see.
That's when that's why we want.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
To bring Q on in this next So it's gonna
be five stars are gonna get X, four stars are
gonna get X, three stars gonna get X, and they
gonna save a little bit for the guy that comes
out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Where is the money coming from?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Right?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Because the schools thing.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
They enough, They generate enough money in these sports in
these college programs, of course they do.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
But what is is the money being generated through like,
for instance, if you're getting paid by the collective.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
It's it's like a deal. That's no, it's TV concession.
So that's where it's coming from.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Revenue.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
Revenue, Yes, from the twenty million per year per team.
That's what it's said, correct.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
That is what it's said. That is what it's said.
So they're going to so twenty million, it's just going
to go to all the athletes. That's twenty all of
them though, that's for all the sports.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
So they're going to be they're going to be young,
they're going to be young men, women, men and women
coming out of high school that have an opportunity to
maybe go to a say a Division one double A
school and start right away, but receive an offer from

(11:28):
a Division one Power five school, maybe not even play
if he's a three star, whatever the case may be,
they signed that scholarship to go to these Power fives,
to playing the Powerfile conference just to receive conversation instead
of going to another school knowing.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
That a starter.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Yeah, but that's what TJ is saying, Like, you're going
to go there, you had better be aware of the
fact that you you I mean, first off, if you're
a three star coming out, you might start right away
somewhere else out of lesser school, but right exact but
in reality, though, you're good enough to go play at
that school that you're getting paid at. So I mean,
you're not gonna go in there and say, well, I'm
gonna sit forever, but at least I'm gonna get paid

(12:09):
a couple hundred thousand to go in here and sit
down and get an education. I don't think that they're
looking at I don't think guys.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
And what what is the allotment for the non Power
five schools?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
What's the allotment?

Speaker 6 (12:21):
We know power five is twenty million, what's the allotment
for the now non power five?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
And you say you sign a contract.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
I don't know that's an relevant right now.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
I don't think that that's like at the top.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
And so then then the kid and so then the
kid that goes to a lower level school plays extremely well,
hits the portal, he's getting paid, and so that's where
money will be set aside for those kids. But what
happens to the kid that's the three star that gets
very little balls out? But contractually, you you sign and

(12:56):
you receive this.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Can you come back to the table and Rena goate.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
What happens if you get a five star coming in,
but you have a quarterback that's a dope quarterback right
now that's playing, and that five star hasn't done anything
and ends up many.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
It's the cost of doing business.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Store you get that five star, you got a pain
as such, that's the cost of doing business.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Once a kid.

Speaker 7 (13:21):
Gets to school, well something that scholarship as a three
four five. Even if this guy's supposed to be a
five star athlete and he has a guy come in
who's a three star athlete and takes his job. I
mean they can't. They can't, like resind how much money
he's going to make because he came in as a
five star. Then now that now five star sitting on

(13:42):
the bench class they can't hiring.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's going to be real interesting.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
If they're paying the guy more than the production that
he's given, that's going to be interesting how they navigate
through those waters.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Kids are not performance based.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Hold it, hold it, man, We're going into everything.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
With performance base until it isntcorrect.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
Well, the crazy if you come in with a certain
ranking three, four.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Five, that's not that's performance based off of what you
did somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, let's keep the conversation going. Let's let's take a
quick break on the other side of it.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Let's because I can guarantee Brady Quinn will be able
to add some color and some some context to some
of the details of it all, and then that's going
to make this conversation even better. So let's keep the
conversation going. With this Power five conference agreeing to a
deal to let schools pay players directly. We'll bring Brady

(14:45):
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y'all may know him as one of the best to
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Speaker 5 (18:18):
So we had the conversation going in the first first
segment about the settlement and bringing bringing money, a new
a new deal to power five to play players. Now,
before we bring in the famed and respected Brady Quinn

(18:38):
from Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Also you
may know him as as the guy from the Big
Neon Kickoff Show.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I wanted you guys to.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
Hear them will talk about on the McAfee show how
the NCAAA money could be dispersed. And then we'll bring
him in and we'll continue this conversation. So let's go
to the sound first and then after that we'll hear
the voice of one Brady Quinn.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
Nor has school said? Okay with this, roughly twenty million dollars.
Does ten million go to women's sports because of Title nine?
Or can we take eighteen million and direct that towards football?
Because football, and I think it's a safe estimate. Ryan
could disagree with me. Here is about eighty five percent
of the revenue at most schools proportional to the TV contracts,

(19:24):
So because that's just a giant difference if you're operating
with an eighteen million dollar which essentially going to be
a salary cap at a power school versus eight million dollars. Right,
So these are the things that have to be determined.
The other very football centric piece of this that isn't
determined is there are going to be roster caps now

(19:45):
this then we go on the weeds a little.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Bit with you here.

Speaker 11 (19:47):
There used to be scholarship limits, so like they're weird numbers.
The football at eighty five that was clean, but like
baseball was like twelve nine to nine. Yeah, it's so
McGee might know some of those, some of those nuanced.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Numbers better than me.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
He does.

Speaker 11 (20:05):
I'm I'm not surprised. The sort of basic legal tenant
of this is that because it's any trust suit, they're
trying to eliminate limitations. So instead of telling Clemson they
can only have eighty five scholarship players in this or
like Ole miss is a great example because or Missippi
State they have unbelievable baseball and they were limited to

(20:26):
about ten baseball scholarships. So now if you want to
give out twenty five baseball scholarships.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
You can.

Speaker 11 (20:32):
They're simply just going to be a roster cap, and
you can determine. Maryland may say, you know what, we
only want twelve baseball scholarships, but Ole miss is going
to say, hey, mane, we packed five grand a night
and everybody sits out in the outfield and Jerk said,
we got a good old time here, and baseball means
a lot to our community, in our fan base. We're
going to have up to the roster cap as opposed
to the scholarship limit.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
It's uh, it's I think it's a This is not
getting into the we eat where this is all going.
This is getting into a force. And we're going to
have our guy Brady Quinn who joins the show from
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, a show that well,
I work with him as as as I do on

(21:15):
this show, just a kind of a caddy. I make
sure that they pulled out the right Uh you know,
the right what what is that called the what you're
using in golf?

Speaker 4 (21:25):
What's that term with well? Clubs? Damn, there is there.
It is the right clubs out of the golf bag. Uh,
what's going on man, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Not much, guys, glad to be on. It's been a
long time coming. I don't know if you guys does.
I've been asking LeVar for an opportunity to come on
for a while, so I appreciate that. You know, it's
it's funny, you know, everyone wants to make this settlement,
you know, act like it's going to be life changing.
And how we're you know, spending the dollars now with

(21:57):
the rep share for the student athletes. And here's the
interesting thing from the sound that you just play from
Pete Family is with a baseball program right now, right
they're limited with how many scholarships they currently have. But
you know, the what happened, what happens now with NIL
is a lot of these guys who maybe are getting

(22:17):
a Porsche of their scholarships funded by financial aid right
on a partial scholarship and the rest is financial aid
something that can be supplemented now with with NIL. And
so for a lot of the Olympic sports or the
sports outside of the Big Three, meaning football, mental women's basketball,
what they've been doing to add talent to their rosters
in those sports is they've been funding nils to pay

(22:37):
for it. Now. The hard thing is football.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
They're doing that. I know.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
I'm not even gonna throw them out there like this,
but I know some schools that said, we have no
scholarships left, but we have X amount in IL he
can pay for school and he'll have a couple hundred grand,
you know, for himself.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
That's what they're doing.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
Also, they run out of scholarships, we have this huge
NIL deal pay for school when you have this money
for yourself exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
And so but here's the one caveat to that. A
lot a lot of people know, is you know, because
obviously the scholarships and those are the sports I go
so far, and then they have financial aid, and if
they can't qualify financial aid, you know, they have the
NIL as a backstop. The problem is is if you
make more than three thousand dollars a year and you
are on a partial scholarship, you could get some of

(23:25):
your financial aid taken away. And so that's fine, I guess,
but it's gonna you know, dip into that NIL war
chest a little bit more so. But look, as of
right now, I know, it feels like the wildlide West
of college sports and how we're looking at the settlement
and players now being a part of at least the
rev share. I don't think we're done in part because

(23:48):
of Title nine, and you heard them talk about that
and just the difficulties of I mean Title nine's law,
and so they're gonna have there's gonna have to be
law passed by the federal government that's going to allow
and protect universities to decide how they want to go
about allocating the funding to student athletes that they're going
to be receiving and so and then right now, one

(24:08):
of the biggest concerns is there's no one really fighting
the women's sports for it to be a fifty fifty split.
I think most schools right now, if you look at
them just trying to survive by you know, moving conferences
and going to conferences where they've got a more lucrative
TV deal. You know, that's kind of where we're at
right now. No one's really thinking about trying to be
you know, fair or equitable to mental women's sports. They're
just trying to think about how they can survive for

(24:30):
the foreseeable future and be competitive.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
When when When when you look at the ruling and
do what pitfalls. So what do you see that maybe
down the road that nobody is talking about.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I don't know that no one's talking about. I mean,
I would say right now the question marks surrounding the
collectives is what interests me the most because I think
everyone's you know, looking at this and thinking that, you know,
these schools are going to be able to operate it
with some sort of cap if you will, with what

(25:09):
they're all getting almost almost similar to what we see
in the NFL, where everyone's going to salary cap and
that's how they're constructing the rosters. But the collectives are
going to be still out there providing opportunities. Uh, unless
they just outlaw them all together, which we have you
know yet to see you know what that's going to
look like. As far as if there's gonna be either
the I R S is gonna take away the nonprofit

(25:31):
status and maybe the inability for for profits to do it.
The federal government could create law to limit that their
ability to do it. But that's the one wildcard that
I don't think is being talked about enough, because we
know the schools with the deep pockets are going to
be the ones that yeah, they're gonna they're gonna have
the same amount of you know, rev share that they're
getting from their TV rights media deals to share with
the student athletes. But that's the additional collective, the additional

(25:55):
and il moneies that are still going to be being
paid out to create that greater advantage. So well, yeah,
I think we've seen a lot of parody in college
football in particular, in part because of the transfer portal. Really,
it's a lot of good players who aren't playing somewhere
else to go to go somewhere else and start playing
help out another team. But I think where we're going
to start to see less parody is, you know, if

(26:15):
we're operating under the assumption that this red shure is
going to create everyone an equal playing field or a
level playing field, I think what happens with the collective
is where there could be a huge advantage for some
of these schools, some of the blue buds that have
deeper pockets.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
So, Brad, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
I'm not sure if you know this, but my son
is set to a ten year alma mater, Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
So he's we're going, oh yeah, let's go.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
He is going to on his official visit January, I
mean June fourteenth. He's set to graduate high school in
December and attending January. So he asked me this question
yesterday as far as the NCAA paying athletes and Power
five conferences, how does this affect Notre Dame in a
school independent, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Mean they'll they'll be under the exact same premise like
usually when you hear everyone talking about how this is
what's happening in the Big Ten, the SEC. The athletic
director in this case, Pete Bovaquay just took over for
Jack Swerbrook. He's solely in those meetings, but in a
lot of those meetings where you have a conference commissioner,
Notre Dame always has their athletic director as part of it,

(27:24):
and they kind of and they really speak for not
just Notre Dame, they speak for a lot of the
independent schools, but also a lot of the Group of
Five schools. You know, they were pretty heavily involved in
trying to carve out space obviously for themselves be part
of the College Foball Playoff expansion, but also in the
model that Jack s Werbrook helped create for college football
that we'll get this year he wanted to make sure

(27:44):
there's still opportunities for a group of five teams where
the Big ten and the SEC are obviously trying to
jockey and fight for as many positions as possible to
get more money out of it. So Notre Dame will
be squarely a part of it.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
All.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
That's not gonna be an issue. They've got a very
unique place in college sports, and I know it's not
pompous and maybe even biased to some degree, but I
think it's okay. Well, as your son goes there and
you get more involved too, you'll be like, oh, okay,
this place is different, it's special, it's kind of unique.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well right, real simple.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
Do you like this uh new ruling and what what's
going to be taking place in college football?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Do you like it? Personally?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
I like it because I think it's been such a
long time coming, guys. I mean, I think we all
know this. You know, there's been a lot of people
who have been huge benefactors off the backs of so
many student athletes that have basically it worked a job
for free and really haven't been able to capitalize off it.
I mean I remember having a job, you know, back
when I when I was in school making seven bucks
an hour. You know, it's like, you know, those days

(28:47):
are long gone. These these kids are not professionals essentially,
and we've been operating like that. Yeah, we don't want
to call it that, so let's call what it is.
I mean, they're now looked that maybe not deemed to
be more than that, you know, an athlete, not as
an employee, but you know, they're essentially operating as that.
So I think it's going to be a good ruling
to get us closer to where we need to go
moving forward, so it doesn't feel like it's so chaotic

(29:10):
like it does right now. And we've got you know,
agents who are actually legitimate and certified, and all these
things that are going on outside of the college football
world in particular that are just crazy. So I'm happy
that gotten to this point. I just hope we can
keep moving forward, progressing so this doesn't feel as crazy
as it does this offseason.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Does this feel like does this feel like the anti
trust and the agreements that are taking place in terms
of settlements and the amount of money, It.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Just seems like that is a pit, Like it just doesn't.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Seem like we know where the bottom of that may
may exist in terms of suits that may continue to
come about. We mentioned the transfer portal, we're mentioning the
idea of getting top players. Where we're talking about opt
outs is this was this done based out of a
necessity because of what seemingly could spin out of control

(30:10):
in terms of who's leveraging how it's being leveraged. Because
to me, now you're talking about the influence of financial advisors,
the influence of agents. It's it's just this is a
critical mass situation to me, outside of the parameters of
what the schools have been able to do, does this

(30:32):
create the opportunity for the systems to be put in
place to resolve some of the things that may possibly challenge.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
The stability of college athletics.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Well, the STEM was born out of survival for the NCAA.
I mean, had this thing gone to court, they would
have lost, like they've lost in every single case where
they've been trialed. So that's unfortunately been the track records
for the NCAA. And the settlement was large part, you know,
a lot less than what they would have paid and
they lost and if they ended up going to court,

(31:05):
I believe in January twenty twenty five, and unless let
this you know, let them see this thing through. So
it was important for survival. But I do think this
gets us to better frameworks for what it should look like.
And again I always find it interesting when we have
a professional league and model that we could base a
lot of things off of in regards to certifications for

(31:26):
agents and even financial advisors, that you have to create
a union to do so, and who's going to be
responsible for doing that. There's already people lining up and
different coalitions lining up. But I kind of go back
to the first point. It's not even just the NCAA's survival.
I think it was the school survival too. There is
a big concern about with some of these athletic departments
that have they lost out on in these lawsuits because

(31:48):
it wasn't just the NCAA gaensuit. It's you know, individual
schools getting sued at times too. But if they continue
to keep losing out from these lawsuits, who knows where
where it would end. And I think that's also why
you've seen the NCAA a lot of the conference commissioners
in particular. You know, the power for if you will
continue to lobby the federal government because they need someone

(32:10):
to come in and step to step in and create
guard wheels around this. So this isn't just you know,
an endless process of ending up in courts. We create
the framework of what this is going to look like.
We can actually sit down at the table and say,
let's create this sort of pro model that still allows
these you know, young men and women to go to
school and get their degree because there is that is important,
but they can be compensated as well at the same

(32:31):
time for what they're doing. So again, I think it
was born out of survival, but it is it is
going to lead us all to a much better place
I think for the player, for the parents and they
obviously for the universities, and really more than anyone else guys,
for the donors like anio world right now. How it's
how it's currently working is they need to go get
a player, they go to a rich donor and they're like, hey, man,

(32:52):
help write the check for this. Like that only goes
so long. So you know, it's even good for the
alumni networks that have been capped out right now now
funding their football and basketball and baseball and lacrosse teams.
Right now is that are names playing in the final four.
So I mean all these all these alumni, I'm just
tapped out at this point.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Hey, Brady, so real quick speaking about a teachers said pitfall.
You were talking about lawsuits. I'm not sure if you're
up on the Shiloh saying this thing with him being
suit for like twelve million dollars, losing a lawsuit and
then declaring bankruptcy on his nil money. Can you give
us what you know about about this situation.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I don't know much about it. I did see in
the news, but again, I have to look through some
of the financial thoughts. But I mean, look, bankruptcy, I
think it's you know, gets misconstrued sometimes, you know a
lot of people think, oh bankrupt, this guy's out of money.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Sometimes they're just reorganizing their debt, right. But the difference
between bankruptcy for chapter seven, chapter eleven, and I think
in this case, you know, hopefully will provide an example
maybe for some other guys out there, because it's not
just the silo standards example. I mean you look at
market Carrison Jr. You know, Var and I have been
talking about this but for the past week and just
guys who you know have deals that they sign and

(34:07):
they don't realize you know, the term sheet that they're
agreeing to and what that means moving forward. So hopefully
it's a it's a more of a warning sign for sure.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
No, it's not more of a more of a learning sign.
Is more as as him being sued by him basically
these young kids being targets and not understanding that the
targets and the money they're having of him breaking the
neck of a high school security guard in twenty and fifteen,
and he comes back and sues him and wins twelve

(34:36):
million dollars in a lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Right, and then look again I don't know the specifics
of all how that worked out, but that's that's the
case for anting with money, right, I mean, now now
that he's got money, that's like they're learning. Yeah, well
you're a target of everything you do. And so it's
these kids don't have to.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Grow up quick.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
And that's that's the truth of the matter. It's unfortunate,
you know, all that, that's all that stuff transpired the past,
and someone did for the what nine years later due
to file.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
One now when he was a kid.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Exactly exactly which again I mean, you know you would
think that they would be able to take that into consideration,
you know, when they're making that judgment. But yeah, I
haven't read up enough on it. But it's again, it's
it's an example of what's happening right now for a
lot of these you know, young men and women. They're
they're even some of the young women who have been
making a ton of money and to get all the
same that goes along with it. Well, there's a lot

(35:26):
of other stuff that comes in the side too with
the attention they get, and that's that's been hard, I
think for a lot of them to deal with the
additional attention they get. Kayden Clark's one of the first
that kind of comes to mind in regards to a
lot of love, some hate and and and everything in
between in regards to her fame. That's all kind of
come out from from anil and her success in the
college to college realm.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
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My guy, my baby bro. He always brings his a game,
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(36:08):
So it was great bringing the two shows together. This
this was long awaited, long coming, long time coming. Appreciate
you coming on, que.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I appreciate you all, and obviously have a have a
wonderful weekend. But let's not forget what this weekend's all about. Indeed,
all those brave men and women who sacrificed maybe ultimate
sacrifice for us. So appreciate you guys.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Enjoy your weekend. I got talk to you on Tuesday.
That's Brady Quinn. We're going to take a quick break
on the other side of it. I mentioned clubs and
bags and caddies and all that stuff. We're going to
talk a little schefter. Cheffler is after we get back
from the break. This is up on Game.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
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is Fox Sports Radio. H yeah, oh yeah.

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Tell y'all that we are in the tyrack dot com studios.
That's right. I did tell you.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's t J.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
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guess what. We just had Brady Quinn on Two Pros
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Speaker 1 (38:11):
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Speaker 4 (38:12):
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Speaker 5 (38:14):
Hour two's coming up. We'll have another esteemed guest on cups.
The legend is gonna come on. We'll talk basketball. Don't
worry about it, you'll get your fix. We're gonna talk
about Charles Barkley calling out T and T leadership. Whoo,
that's a deep one right there, the playoffs, everything that's
going on. But before we close out this first hour, guys, yeah,
some more information has hit and has come out on

(38:36):
the Scottie Scheffler or rest saga. It's continuing to grow
some legs. Obviously, the lawyer had something to say about
the allegations. It seems as though the officer that was
a part of the arrest has been disciplined for not

(38:57):
handling it with the proper protocols. It's it's it's all,
it's all bad. Do we have the sound bow on
what the lawyer had to say. Let's let's let's take
a listen to that and then let's quickly respond to
where we're at with this go ahead, let's check it.

Speaker 12 (39:12):
Scotti Scheffer didn't do anything wrong. We're not interested in
settling the case. We will either try it or it'll
be dismissed.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
It's very simple.

Speaker 12 (39:19):
All the evidence that continues to come out just continue
to support what Scotty said all along. This was a
chaotic situation and a miscommunication, and he didn't.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Do anything wrong.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
We talked about it, we touched on it last week.
But super quickly.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
I mean the fact that they're saying, okay, the body
cam was turned off, that's just to me, first thing
that says that's a red flag. I mean it almost
it almost alerts me to say that this dude meant
to do what he was about to do.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
How you guys take it just super quick.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
If protocol is to have your camera on, have it on.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
I mean at times you may forget, but in that
situation you should have it on.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Not not the Scottie shufflers. Thatituation.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
You're had a homicide investigation technically, so it should automatically
have been on.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I believe nothing will come on this.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
The police officer that they feel probably got a little
bit excited and he's gonna have to pay the price.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
For that and whatever that is. But it's what we
said last week.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
Man, somebody lost their life and it was a big
misunderstanding I believe with Scotti schefferd So hopefully they'll figure
it all out.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:29):
Man, it was all just kind of shady from the
go without the body cam on. And I guess there's
a new video of this cop gill Is basically chasing
down Scottie Scheffler's car to basically say that Scottish Scotty
basically dragged him. And there's no evidence of any of that.
So did this guy just had it out for Scotti

(40:51):
Sheffler from the beginning, And I guess he just wanted
to make a name for himself. And as I just
keep to do more research on this, Brian Gillis dude. Man,
he has a lot of things on this record as
a police officer, being suspended multiple times. So it's like
his lawyer said, I don't think it's gotta did anything wrong.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
My first thought was, man, I imagine if that if
Scheffler was black, what would this be looking like? But anyways,
that's just my my check on it. Hour two, It's
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