June 3, 2024 • 41 mins
The rivalry between Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese has predictably transferred over into the pros... the guys react to a particularly hard foul by Reese's teammate, Chennedy Carter, on Clark after calling her an expletive. In other news, Lions HC Dan Campbell talked about what the NFL would be losing were it to continue to shorten the preseason: development for young players. Lions OC Ben Johnson gave some insight as to why he has yet to take a head coaching job. Plus, more fun with a brand new edition of FSR IR!
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Should be well, probably one of the more I don't
even know how to discuss this topic anymore, but I
guess you'll call it a rivalry Kaitlin Clark Angel Reese
what was once the Iowa Hawkeys women's basketball team and
ls US women's basketball team, and the rivalry that was
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between those two where Angel Reese got one against her
and got a national championship, Kaitlyn Clark got the next one,
didn't get the national championship. But I think everyone would admit,
you know, Kaitlyn Clark has been a lightning rod for
women's basketball, whether that's at the college level in Iowa
or now at the WNBA, They're receiving more attention, more
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eyes than ever before, and everyone's got.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Their own reason for why that's the case.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
To be honest, I personally don't care, but it continues
to be a storyline as to, you know, a Kaitlyn
Clark's clear career in the WNBA so far, but also
how she's treated And so I do find it a
bit interesting that after the Indiana fever, when their second
game of the season against the Chicago Sky on Saturday,
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the conversation isn't even so much about the game itself,
It's about what happened in the game Kaitlyn Clark, who
ended up playing decently well, maybe not scoring at the
clip that she recently was, but it was a controversial
foul that took place becausetying Kennedy Carter, a guard for
the Chicago Sky and Kaitlin Clark that was probably motivated
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by maybe some trash talking from.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Kayl and Clark, who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But the point of the matter is it now has
become a lightning rod for what is every single game,
every single week, we're talking about Kayln Clark and how
she's treated or how she's not. It's become probably the
focal point of it, which is a bit odd, Like
if you're the WNBA, don't you want this to just
be about the games, the teams, the players that are involved,
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not specifically one player. But it seems like there's a
lot of animosity, a lot of I don't know, maybe
even hate that's directed towards her. Is that how you
look at LeVar Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's definitely a ton of attention going her way, and
the intensity of how the players are handling things with
Caitlyn Clark are definitely I mean, it's noticeable, you know,
it's it's definitely out of what you would say the
norm or the average probably incoming rookie would have to
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deal with. But with that being said, she's not the
average incoming rookie. So my question now becomes in looking
at how intense these vets are going after Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Is this something? Is this something where.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
The league itself has to buckle down, has to buckle.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Down on how she's being treated.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You got to protect your investment and and I'm not
certain exactly how the WNBA should go about managing it,
but I almost feel as though there's two ways of
looking at it. In the short term, it's it's probably
great for business that that what's taking place is taking
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place because people are talking about it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's it's a story.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
It's it's in the headlines. And the w n b
A generally, if they're going to be in the headlines,
it's probably going to be this time of the year,
considering that you only have the NBA playoffs that that
and the NHL playoffs, But it's this is probably the
time of the year for them to get the type
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of attention on on their sport. But this is a
different type of attention, right, This is this is not
the level of play.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
This isn't I'm enjoying the game.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
This is you're talking about controversy, and you're talking about
a polarizing player that that dominated at the college level
and and has had a whole lot of fanfare, a
lot of money come their way. And and these these
players in the w NBA are trying to prove a point.
What that point is, I don't know. So in the
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long term, if it's a long term situation for the
w NBA, I think it's damaging to the brand. I
think it's damaging to to their game and the popularity
of their game. I really do. And if I'm the
w n B A, I think they got to play it.
This isn't about the players having that type of awareness.
It's about the league having the type of awareness where
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they need to protect their their star asset.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And in this rookie player in Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's funny you pointed out the or earlier in what
you were saying, just about how kind of rookies get treated,
and that's part of it. And Diana Trossi had made
a comment that was kind of picked and pulled and
plucked and maybe maybe even misconstrued in some ways because
of her talking about the adjustment that Kaylen Clark would
have to make.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Look, this is a physical league.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's a league of the best of the best of
the women basketball players that are in the US, and
she's going to get knocked around.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
They're going to test her toughness.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Like, if I'm being honest as far as my objective
scouting report on Kayln Clark, if you get to her
and you get in her head and you get her flustered,
she's off. She's not gonna shoot in that game. She
didn't shoot overly well. I think she had a couple
of threes. That was it, maybe two for nine something
like that. But that is the scouting report. I mean,
at some point you've got to be, I guess aware
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of some of your faults, some of your deficiencies. People
feel like she's a complainer. People feel like she'd us
some dirty stuff from time to time. And so if
that's part of the entire story is we'd like to
tell the entire story and not just Hey, you know
Kennedy Carter, who was the young woman who you know
knocked her down.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And look, she's faced her own issues.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
If you go back through her history, of playing in
the w NBA or even being out of the w
NBA for a period of time, and why she was
dismissed from those teams. Clearly she's got a track record.
Clearly she's got that. There's there's other things that you
can look into and say, Okay, this is this is
kind of part of her game. You know, she's one
of those agitators. She's one of those players that hasn't
gotten along with other teammates in the past. But I
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think what a lot of people draw attention to is
the fact that Angelice is on the bench and she's
applauding and you know, cheering on her teammate who commits
you know what, wasn't a flagrant foul and I don't
know even sure what they ended up calling it, but
obviously an unnecessary foul.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Right, there's no there's no reason to do that in
that moment.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And then everyone comes to Kaitlin Clark's defense like this
isn't pro sports, Like like someone else has to come
protect her. It's like, no, dude, this is pro sports.
This is part of the maturation process. They're gonna test you.
You're a rookie. This is part of the thing that
if I'm looking at him saying this is where her
game is a little bit off, is if you get
to her and you get in her head, she's not
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gonna play as well. She's gonna turn the ball over,
She's gonna take bad shots.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I mean, you could make.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The case on an offshooting night with some of the
shots she does take, they're not always the best shot,
the best play. I think the thing that stood out
to me the most though about that moment and how
this entire season has gone, is it's not just jealousy
from other girls around the league who have been doing
it for a long time and have made their comments,
whether it's Brewanna Stewart who had her moments in her words,
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or Dianah Tarassi or whoever else you want to talk
about that's already in the WNBA. Which is odd too,
because they have not received the criticism or I guess
they haven't handled the criticism well with the attention they've gotten.
That being said, what stood out to me about it
the most is the of anything from her teammates. There
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was no one in that moment who ran over to her.
There's no one who's kind of stepped up in the
podium and said anything. I mean, she's in a tough
spot from this perspective, Like not only is there's a
lot of jealousy and a lot of other players they're
playing against. I think there's jealousy on her own team
of the platform that she's been put on. And I
don't know that she's asked for it, by the way,
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it's just a matter of if she's been that person
that lightning run where everyone loves her style of play
in the three point shots and whatever else.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It is.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Everybody tries to make their rep off of the famous one,
the popular one, you know's and that's what she's coming
in as she's coming in as the popular one. She's
coming in as you know, the one that has the
spotlight has the spotlight on her. I mean, that's just
that is the law of the jungle in sports, and
we all know that. You know, you go out the
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neck of the one. Anybody who's that's the best player
right there, That's who I'm going after, right like that,
That is a mentality that does exist in sports and athletics.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean, that's just that, that is what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
But this definitely is I mean, are we overstating that
she may be getting targeted.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
That's that's what I ask myself if I if I were.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
To look at other other rookies that have come into
the league, were they getting targeted this way? Where they
getting banged up this way? Is it just the amount
of coverage that's on Caitlyn Clark, or is it is
it really truly a thing, you know, with with Caitlyn Clark,
because listen, I know, I know women basketball player. I
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was close with a lot of women basketball players when
I was in the league, and they are very, very
passionate about what they do. They're very physical, they they
they want to be respected, they want to be admired
and revered the same way any other athlete wants to
be admired and revered. And I just wonder that, you know,
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is it the coverage If Caitlyn Clark wasn't Caitlyn Clark
and she was a rookie, would she still be getting
banged up?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Probably?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
So would it be to this level, I don't know,
would it be to this level of coverage. It certainly
wouldn't be the level of coverage. So I wonder how
much of the exposure of Caitlyn Clark is the reason
why it's coming across the way that it's coming across.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, And I also wonder for a lot of the
players out there that are taking their shots or if
you're Angel Reese and and you know, you could say,
all I've known Angel res but I don't know Angel
Reason until this whole back and forth of Kaitlyn Clark
and Kennedy Carter's name, no one knew her until this
as well. Very true, she's kind of just floated under
the radar in the league and honestly, it's been out
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of the league a periods of time in her career.
So it's odd to me that there's there are some
players that feel like they're kind of making her name
almost of being the villain, being the agitator to her
in this situation.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And that's that's what I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
If, like, if you're Angel Reese, like carve out your
own separate deal to this. And some people might say,
well Shorty has it's like, well, not really, Like if
you're asking for her to step out of the shadow
that's casting behind Caitlyn Clark, that she hasn't done that
yet because incidents like that where she's standing up, she's
cheering for her teammate from the bench. Who does it
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makes a dirty play like that, and I don't care
if it's even in retaliation.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Like someone talks trash to you.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And there's people who slowed down the video and they're like, oh,
she gave an elbow when they're trying to get the basketball.
It's like, I don't know, it looked like she was
getting hooked by Kennedy Carter.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It didn't look so much like an.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Elbow could have gone either way, regardless of that circumstance.
Like you got a player with their back turn you
and you take a cheap shot on them.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's a cheap shot, call what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, And so if you're gonna stand up and cheer
for that, it's like, well, now you're bringing the attention
back on yourself of being for that, being against that.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know, it seemed like they had bared the hatchet.
Apparently they haven't.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Either way, I'm hoping this storyline dies down because it's
getting to a point where like, I'm not necessarily always
going to watch or be as big of a fan.
I'm just tired of talk about in the storylines like
allow your league to be allow your league to be
elevated by your play, and allow your league to be
elevated by the talent that's there instead of storylines. Unless
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the unless the w NBA is taking a page out
of the NBA playbook where they say, hey, maybe our
games aren't enticing enough to fans, where we have to
create drama. We have to create this, these these storylines
that don't have anything to do with basketball itself. If
that's the direction they had WNBA wants to go, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
But look at the NBA. There's been a viewership declined
for a reason.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And you could you could point to the style of play,
you can point to maybe the super teams, whatever you
want to point to, but people are not watching as
much as they used to watch.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
There's a reason for that. I think that's a short
term play too. You like to say, the.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Drama of it and the way they're allowing her or
the way she's being treated is going to draw viewership.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
It's short term. That's a short term deal.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And you got to know if that's if your investment
is in short term pop of having Kitlin Clark get
her ass knocked around all over the place, then that
now that that you would have to assume that now
makes me look at the WNBA in a in a
different manner, you know, like, am I even interested in this?
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Like they're okay with letting her like be in roller
Derby and this is basketball, Like it's basketball not roller Derby,
Like let's go like, let's see, let's see them play basketball.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Maybe purists would say she has to be able to
deal with the physicality of what's coming her way, and
other girls have had to deal with it in years
past as well. It's nothing new other than the coverage
on her. I feel like this is one. This is
one of those conversations is where I don't know where
the line of truth or or reasonable sensibility. I don't
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know where that one exists in this one.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I just want to get back to it being about
the sport and about the players. Like if we if
we want to make you know, if people want to
make the w NBA what you know they can make it,
then make it more about the other story lines and
not this this one that we keep.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Being a divorce.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Fair.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
That's fair because.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It gets old, man, it's kidding old fast sold that
we're going to transition off this topic, so them right
and the coming to live from the ti iraq dot
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for the Troy Lyons, he was interviewing for all these
head coaching jobs in the last head coaching search cycle.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
A lot of stuff came out. Did he turned down?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Maybe the Washington Commanders, maybe some other teams that were
interviewing him.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Did they turn him down, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
We've got an update on some of that as Ben
Johnson decided to be a little more open and honest
about the approach and the process. And one NFL head
coach who talked about a shorter preseason and not so
much a fan of lack of development and some other reasons.
We'll have the four you here on the other side
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
Coming up at the top of this hour, We've got
Petros Papa Dacus. He'll be taken over and leading us
to a path where really no one knows, uh speak,
have a path that no one knows. Kind of felt
like last year Ben Johnson didn't really know what he wanted,
whether want to become a head coach somewhere else or
stand Detroit be the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
He ended up staying or electing to Stand Detroit.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
We've heard multiple reports after the fact, most that I
kind of took issue with, only because it feels like
when a team doesn't get their number one guy, LeVar,
then it starts being like, well he wasn't our number
one guy. No we turned him down right, No, no, no, no,
Like the boyfriend girlfriend scenario. You know it was them,
you know they like I broke up with them, It
wasn't the other way around. You typically get those sorts
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of conversations, Well, Ben Johnson is able to provide a
little bit more clarity on the subject.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Let's let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Something that really resonates with me, is, okay, eight openings
this past year. What would you set the over under
in three years help me still have jobs?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Shoot? Yeah, I've put the over under at four and
a half.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
I would say there's a good chance five of them
are out of jobs in three years. And so when
I look at it from that perspective, if I get
the opportunity to go down that road, it's it's about
how do I get to that second contract. How do
I set myself up that the stars need to align.
I'm not I'm not going to do it just to
do it. I love what I'm doing right now, love it,
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Love I love where I'm at, my family, loves where
we're at, love the people that we're.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Doing it with.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
And so I'm not willing to go down the other
path yet unless i feel really good about how it's
going to unfold.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That's Ben Johnson, the current offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions,
and look, he's been a big reason, in my opinion,
why Jared Goff has had success the Alliance have had
success offensively.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
He's been up for head coaching.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Jobs, you know, year after year since he's taken over
there in Detroit. His creativity, his ability to find ways
of getting the playmakers the ball, all of that has
been on display. And I've listened to his words, gonna
read the reports some of his quotes, and don't I
don't find anything.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Wrong with that. The guy's he's very pragmatic in his approach.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I think he's looking out of the very realistic perspective,
and I think he understands his value too, where he's
going to get other shots and opportunities if he's as
good as he thinks he is, and I think he is.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I think he's proven that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So I'm not sure why more coaches don't take that opportunity,
And maybe it's because they're in a spot or a
situation that they don't feel as good about. Where you
look at what Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell and the
Detroit Lions organization now is built up guys like Chris
Spielman who are a part of it, and the Ford
family and the way they've transitioned now with this group.
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Maybe it's important because he does feel so comfortable there
and confident there as opposed to sometimes other assistant coaches
or coordinators are like, man, this thing might not be
the same next year. You know, we could have a
terrible season. They might can all of us. How much
do you think I has to do with that?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It's very that's very true, and it's very realistic. And
I mean today's NFL, they hire and fire pretty quickly.
You know, the turnover can be very very quick. You've
seen guys get just one year, like they haven't even
gotten a full entire season, sometimes before judgment is being
dropped on them. Listen, I think that it's it's by person,
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It's it's by mentality, it's by goals, it's by a
lot of different variables, I would say, and how you
go about approaching what you want your trajectory to be,
what you want your accomplishment to be, uh, and where
you ultimately want to end up.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Listen, you're you're mentioning the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That was not a favorable situation for a coach to
walk into. You know, it's much like what's going on
in Carolina right now. You're trying to figure out which
way is up as an organization with with that that team.
That's a lot like how it was in Detroit until
Dan Campbell got there and whatever it is that took place,
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the culture shift that took place, the people that Dan
Campbell and company were a part of hiring to create
what they've created. It's taking time to build that when
you look at something being built a certain type of way,
and if I'm Ben Johnson and I've seen things and
unfold the way they're unfolding in Detroit, I sit there
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and I ask myself a simple question. If I go
to a certain a certain franchise, do I get that
amount of time? Do I get the fear opportunity? Are
they going to let me hire who I need to hire?
Am I going to have the like I said, Am
I going to be able to get the hires and
have the amount of time to bring in the type
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of players develop the culture? Because ultimately that's generally the
only way you're going to change a failing organization and
generally speaking, the only way you're going to get a
head coaching jobs if it was a failing team. So
there's just so many different variables that are a part
of it. Some coaches are like, look, I'm gonna take
my chance. I don't get a chance all the time.
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So if a head coaching job comes available and I
can get it, then I'm going to get it. And
I don't care if that means I'm going to lose
or whatever. I'm taking that gig. Some look at it
as I don't all good get all coaching jobs aren't
aren't created equal, and all of them aren't the best
to step into. So I just think that it's a
matter of where that coach. You know what they're frame
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of thought, you know what it is and what leads
them to and what motivates them to do what it
is that they do, and where they're ultimately trying to get.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You know, you reacted off of him basically saying what
in three or four years, you know, half these guys
be fired.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You got a reaction off that. Why the reaction, I
mean cause he's right, Yeah, he's right. I mean it's
just to me, just because he said it, is that
more of it?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
No, No, I said, what like a lot of people think,
I think you're.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Saying what people Yes, that's what it is, I think
is what people are thinking.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's what you're you're realizing. I mean, is he wrong?
You know what's crazy. Let me let me tell you this.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I was just I was just on a visit to
u c l A this weekend with with Man and.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
What Up Man? Man and and and I.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
This is the first time I ever met Eric b Enemy,
first time I ever met him, and I was kind
of apprehensive about even just kind of talking to him
because I just know the conversations I've had to have
about him on air with the same type of conversation
points and what's taking place. Dude is one of the
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most impressive dudes you'll be around, very charismatic, understands the game,
breaks it down very very easily where it's easily consumed.
Just just was I was. I was expecting one thing
when when when I saw him, and it turned out
to be something totally different. And you just never know
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what the real story is on something. You just know
what the narrative becomes, and you don't necessarily know why
the narrative becomes the narrative, but it does.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And I just think that in coaching, man.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's such a it's such a it's a unique situation.
It's a unique profession, especially in the NFL. And if
you don't play your cards right, you could find yourself
in a position where you're never You're never in play
to get that gig. And I think for Ben Johnson
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to be looking at what he's doing the way he's
looking at it like, I'm good where I'm at. I'm
gonna keep doing what I'm doing. I'm gonna keep building here.
And as my resume grows, and you know, my accomplishments grow.
If the rights situation presents itself for me, or this
situation begins to deteriorate in some way, then I'll make
a decision there. But if you're not in a situation
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where you have to make a bold decision where you
know this is a losing situation but you're taking it anyway.
If you're not really in a situation where you got
to make that call, to you, why would you do it?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Right? Why do it? No?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's obviously going to impact your legacy, it's going to
impact your impression.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Most most coaches only get one shot.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
There's not many that get too and so you better
feel good about taking on that head coaching job as
you go into it.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And I'm trying to think of hold on, let me
look this up.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
The Michigan's men basketball coach who came from FAU most recently.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
His name is escaped me at the moment, but is
a Dusty May. Is that Dusty May?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So he was at FAU and he talked about taking
that job, and he took that job really without having
seen the facilities, hadn't seen and anything else that was
down in the Bookrot's on area that particular campus. And
he literally broke down after soon signing and taking on
this deal because he had taken over this program not
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really knowing all the facts and not realizing how much
of an uphill battle it was going to be coming
from the program he just came from. I think he
was previously like ACROT or something like that, and they
were doing well and he was an assistant at the time,
and so he essentially took the job because it was
a head coaching job and everything else, but there were
moments of doubt and and you know, and it's a
different spot now because he built up the program. He
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had the incredible run to the Final Four for FAU
that ultimately had led to his hiring now at Michigan
as the men's basketball coach. But the point is is
that actually reading that article about him breaking down, I
felt bad for him. I mean, it's his own fault
for not doing his due diligence. But that's the position
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somebody these had coaches are or some of these head
coaching prospects are in.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
They don't know when.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That next big opportunity is gonna come, and I think
everyone looks at it with an optimistic perspective saying, well,
of course I'm gonna go there and win. Like people
who question play calling, do you think the guy called
the play because it wasn't gonna work? Like, clearly they
saw something that they were like, no, it's going to work.
Like we see this in business, where you know, companies
make decisions and they're like, no, this is gonna work.
(28:25):
This is the fad, this is the trend. Of course
this is gonna work. And we're doing our own personal
lives right Like, we make decisions all the time about stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
We're like, no, this is why I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's gonna work, and then when when it doesn't, it's
like okay, Like but in this, in this instance, there
has to be helpless you know, walk into a scenario
realizing like, oh this is now what I thought it is,
and now I'm stuck in a three four year contract.
Yes you're being compensated well, but this might be the
only shot I ever get, and this is it like
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having to deal with all this, So you better be
picky about it when it comes to what opportunities you
choose to take.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
And especially for Ben.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Johnson, a guy who I think, I think it'll be
a great head coach whenever that moment comes. I just
think he's looking for the right moment, the right ownership,
the right structure to everything that he's looking for. And
clearly that wasn't the case, at least that was offered
to him last offseason. Speaking on the Detroit Lions, though,
one of the more outspoken head coaches was Dan Campbell
in regards to a shorter preseason, and he talked about
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lack of NFL development.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Just take a listen to some of these words.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Give an opinion potentially on if the league goes to
an eighteen game schedule, cutting one preseason game.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Not really, I mean the hard thing is, man, that's
another game. But yet, if you reduce a preseason game,
you've got all these young guys you're trying to develop,
and you've got to have.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Them every year.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
I mean, you look at what we were able to
do with some of our young guys last year and
how much they how important they were to us to winning.
But man, there's a process to it, and so you know,
if you don't get them developed or get them enough
reps to where they help you, then you that's the
only thing.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
That's what you lose, and that's the reality.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Is a former player now head coach, he understands the
importance for a lot of the young players, a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Of back into the roster guys.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm sure at some point in time in his career
he's a back end of the roster guy and he
looked at his opportunity to showcase I still got it
because otherwise you don't have those those opportunities quite as much.
That's my fear, at least for some of the league,
unless they, you know, buy out the UFL and they
make that there spring light their developmental league, is you
lose a lot of these real reps that are going
to be meaningful for a lot of young players.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
You definitely need meaningful reps because at the pro level,
it's less reps, it's it's less time for guys that
are not the focal point players. So listen, I don't
know how all that that that's all going to work
out or whatever, but I will say getting getting an
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opportunity to showcase that, like you said, you still can
do it. Getting the opportunity to showcase that you actually
can do it to begin with is vitally important for
guys that are fighting for roster spots. And you know,
that could be the difference in a person making a
roster and having a job or not making a roster
(31:19):
and having to look around and try to figure out
what they do to have an income to be able
to survive and live, you know, live their lives.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
So it's high stakes. It's high stakes.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And I think the other thing is I look at
some players who it might be the last football to
ever play. You're taking away more opportunities for them from
that perspective. And I know there's a lot of people
who probably don't care, but to me, like I do
care about how it ends for a lot of guys
who play the game of football, like I love the
game of football, and whether it's you know, they finish
out their college.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Days, they get a few preseason games and that's it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know, they get cut in camp, they don't make
another roster a team, and they move on to that
next thing that is in their life.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I just I wish there's more opportunities for that. You know.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
The game has been so impactful in my life, and
I just I hate to see, you know, how it's
going to end for some of these guys where they
don't get any any sort of experience like that to
put on a pro helmet, pro uniform, be out there,
even if it is just a preseason game. I call
me a softy. Whatever you want, that's just how I
feel about it. So take it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
For what it is. You know, I got you, man.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
It's always nice to be able to get some meaningful,
impactful footage. That's what they always say. Make sure you're
putting it on film. Even in practice. I say practice hard,
because that's on film. You may be able to use
your practice film to get onto a roster.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Honestly, all right, I'll fully divulge.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Like what literally just entered my brain where you see
these guys who are free agents and they're using social
media to show, hey, I still got it. You know,
they're showing like their workouts, they're showing then like old
film they have from practice. And it's those moments where
I feel bad because I'm looking at the player going
you had no shot, Like you're not You're not getting
back into the NFL if you're a part of a
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training camp or preseason whatever and that's all you've got.
Is if the only thing you got was just practice
film and you working out on some field with a
quick foot ladder or someone throwing some balls to you,
or you're running routes on air, like that's that's not
going to do it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Like, you gotta get to the UFL. You gotta go
play overseas.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
There's a lot of there's a European Football league that
just started, the EFL over there, a couple of coaches
that I know. Actually I've taken the opportunity to go
over there and coach so pretty neat actually. But the
point is is you've got to have some other tape
and film out there. And this again only two preseason games.
It takes away a lot of that opportunity for.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Some of those players. But we got to take a
break before that.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Let's get all the latest around the sports were with
our guy Eddie Garcia, Eddie, what's going on.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Well, we've got the Stanley Cup Final matchup now set.
After Game six of the Western Conference Finals last night,
the Oilers hold off the Stars for a two to
one win. Edmonton was out shot thirty five to ten,
but they get a couple of power play goals, one
from Connor McDavid, one from Zach Hyman, and their goalie,
Stewart Skinner was great with thirty four saves and net
Edmonton wins that series four games and two. They're onto
the Stanley Cup Final for the eighth time in franchise history.
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They'll face the Florida Panthers starting next coming Saturday in Florida.
Baseball Games of note d the Sunday night game. With
the Cardinals beating the Phillies in Philadelphia five to four
in ten innings, Saint Louis now has moved into the
final wildcard spot in the National League. Yankees over the
Giants in San Francisco seven to five. New York rallies
with four in the ninth to sweep the series.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
One.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Soto hit a couple of home runs for him. They've
now overtaken Philadelphia for the best record in baseball at
forty two and nineteen Dodger shut out the Rockies four
no thing. LA starter Gavin Stone and three relievers combining
on a five hit shutout. Brewers wrap up a sweep
of the White Sox with a six five win. Milwaukee's
won five in a row. Chicago's now dropped eleven straight.
Guardians lose to the Nationals five to two. Orioles follow
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the race four to three, and the Mariners wrap up
a sweep of the Angels with a five to one win.
Halos have dropped five in a row. WNBA Fever lose
big to the Liberty one to four to two sixty eight.
Indiana's Caitlin Clark had just three points. She was one
or ten from the field, one of seven bind the
three point line, and her team is now two to
nine on the season. NFL News, the Washington Commanders of
released kicker Brandon McManus after a lawsuit was filed against
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him accusing him of sexual assault while he was playing
with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now by Filavar Arrington Brady Quinn
from the Tirak dot Com. Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Thanks Eddie, coming up next here on two Pros and
a Cup of Joe. Don't let's not forget top of
the hour, Petros Papa Dacas will be taking over the
controls and who knows where that's gonna go. But after
this little break, we've got the fsr IR and apparently
Ian Roddy has quite the story for us.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
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Speaker 2 (35:39):
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Speaker 1 (36:09):
Your podcasts, and you'll see today's show is posted right
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the final hour of today's show as well as tomorrow. Well,
I get a sense for what he has to say
about all the things we've been discussing this morning. But
(36:29):
now it's time for a little something we do called
this after a long weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
After your sports weekend happens.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
So it's time to get the fsr IR report all.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Right once again in for lead to lap as, our
producer Ian roddy Ian claims, you've already I mean, this
is really our first appearance, you know, working together like this,
and you've already got a story for us.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah, yeah, I do. Unfortunately I do. It sounds so
just last night. And let me actually preface this by
saying that I somewhat probably brought this on myself by
not warning my roommates that I had an early shift
the next morning. But I did, you know, for this
show get up pretty early three am start Pacific time.
(37:15):
But last night I wanted to go to bed really
really early. That's what I do when I have an
early shift like that, just kind of shift my sleep
schedule over. A couple of my roommates had some people
over last night, and I went to bed at like,
you know, seven ish, seven thirty, and they had people
start getting there around eight eight thirty, and that's kind
of you know, I was in bed falling asleep or
(37:37):
trying to fall asleep. Music started playing, and it just
made the whole experience a lot harder to do, especially
when you know, over the course of the night, I
gradually wake up at times someone's puking in the bathroom
right next to my right next to my bedroom.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
That's happening.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
A guy ended up getting in a fight with his
girlfriend on the phone really loud, at least I think
that that's what it sounded like. They were playing this
dice game called Liar's Dice, where you smack these dice
on the table that are inside these cups.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
So that was loud.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
That sounds kind of fun though, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
No, it actually is a really fun game.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
It's just not fun when I'm trying to sleep and
have to get up really early the next morning.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
So did part you so selfish?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Man?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I did part of you want to pull leed alab
just say all right, I'm going to go ahead join in.
Speaker 10 (38:24):
I knew what you were going to say before you
even said it.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
With Lee is that Lee's reputations, like everyone pretty much knows.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Anyone who's seen Lee's Twitter knows this y the mullet,
the empty beer cans and cups on planes just.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Do you have a strong stomach, Like when when the.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Restroom break where the guy or gal was was giving
up the ghost to the porcelain god.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
What like, how does that impact you?
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Because I know for me, I'll have to go next
or I'll have to find the trash can because I
got a real sensitive like the.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Thought of it makes you want like that operates your
activates your gag if it does, it does I'm not
like that, thankfully, but you know, I will say that
I do think I have one, like a weaker stomach.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
I am so like it doesn't take a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
But I'm not someone you see it thought out it air.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
You can handle hearing it, but had you seen it,
you'd be.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Out it air.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
That might do it for me.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah yeah, okay, Loria. Do you do you have any
think forest for this weekend?
Speaker 10 (39:27):
I guess I kind of do.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
I went to the six to six market this weekend
and yeah, it's super fun. It has a whole bunch
of like Japanese food. It's down in Coasta, Mesa.
Speaker 10 (39:37):
Okay, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Why six two six Is that the area code or something?
Is the area code?
Speaker 11 (39:42):
It is the area code, but they do it in
all sorts of places, So I mean, I don't really
think that works anyways. Yeah, it was the end of
the night. I was about to leave. I just handed
my daughter twenty bucks to go buy the last thing
that she wanted, and then all of a sudden, my
wallet's gone. Oh no, And it's the smallest little wallet too.
It's not even a wallet's a coin purse. And it
was all black, and I thought I was screwed. And
(40:03):
I drive to Oregon this week I was like, oh
my gosh, I have tears running down my face, like.
Speaker 10 (40:08):
I'm the worst.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Get it back to you.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
No, but someone actually turned it into.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
The Lost and found Who does that?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
And they left the cash inside a Good Samaritan? Wow, person,
that's crazy. Where do you think you lost it there?
Speaker 11 (40:24):
You know, there's not a lot of places to lose it,
so probably somewhere.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Between the dollars wed Leg and the and.
Speaker 10 (40:35):
The whiskey shots.
Speaker 11 (40:36):
It was somewhere between there time good Leg.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Quick question, would you guys feel guilty if you took
the cash out of it but then turned it in
so like the person gets their stuff back where you're
taking the cash.
Speaker 11 (40:46):
No, Honestly, I was hoping they would take the money
as a payment like thank you, thank you for turning
in my wallet.
Speaker 10 (40:51):
The first thing you check for when you get your
wallet back cards, the.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Money, my cards, and my identity is there.
Speaker 10 (40:59):
I'm okay, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
You just assume the cash is gone.
Speaker 10 (41:03):
Yeah, I assumed it wouldn't be in there. But it
was only five bucks.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Oh my gosh, your five bucks a payment for Lost
and found.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It was all there.
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Should be well, probably one of the more I don't
even know how to discuss this topic anymore, but I
guess you'll call it a rivalry Kaitlin Clark Angel Reese
what was once the Iowa Hawkeys women's basketball team and
ls US women's basketball team, and the rivalry that was
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between those two where Angel Reese got one against her
and got a national championship, Kaitlyn Clark got the next one,
didn't get the national championship. But I think everyone would admit,
you know, Kaitlyn Clark has been a lightning rod for
women's basketball, whether that's at the college level in Iowa
or now at the WNBA, They're receiving more attention, more
(01:51):
eyes than ever before, and everyone's got.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Their own reason for why that's the case.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
To be honest, I personally don't care, but it continues
to be a storyline as to, you know, a Kaitlyn
Clark's clear career in the WNBA so far, but also
how she's treated And so I do find it a
bit interesting that after the Indiana fever, when their second
game of the season against the Chicago Sky on Saturday,
(02:20):
the conversation isn't even so much about the game itself,
It's about what happened in the game Kaitlyn Clark, who
ended up playing decently well, maybe not scoring at the
clip that she recently was, but it was a controversial
foul that took place becausetying Kennedy Carter, a guard for
the Chicago Sky and Kaitlin Clark that was probably motivated
(02:41):
by maybe some trash talking from.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Kayl and Clark, who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But the point of the matter is it now has
become a lightning rod for what is every single game,
every single week, we're talking about Kayln Clark and how
she's treated or how she's not. It's become probably the
focal point of it, which is a bit odd, Like
if you're the WNBA, don't you want this to just
be about the games, the teams, the players that are involved,
(03:08):
not specifically one player. But it seems like there's a
lot of animosity, a lot of I don't know, maybe
even hate that's directed towards her. Is that how you
look at LeVar Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's definitely a ton of attention going her way, and
the intensity of how the players are handling things with
Caitlyn Clark are definitely I mean, it's noticeable, you know,
it's it's definitely out of what you would say the
norm or the average probably incoming rookie would have to
(03:40):
deal with. But with that being said, she's not the
average incoming rookie. So my question now becomes in looking
at how intense these vets are going after Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Is this something? Is this something where.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
The league itself has to buckle down, has to buckle.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Down on how she's being treated.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You got to protect your investment and and I'm not
certain exactly how the WNBA should go about managing it,
but I almost feel as though there's two ways of
looking at it. In the short term, it's it's probably
great for business that that what's taking place is taking
(04:31):
place because people are talking about it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's it's a story.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
It's it's in the headlines. And the w n b
A generally, if they're going to be in the headlines,
it's probably going to be this time of the year,
considering that you only have the NBA playoffs that that
and the NHL playoffs, But it's this is probably the
time of the year for them to get the type
(04:58):
of attention on on their sport. But this is a
different type of attention, right, This is this is not
the level of play.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
This isn't I'm enjoying the game.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
This is you're talking about controversy, and you're talking about
a polarizing player that that dominated at the college level
and and has had a whole lot of fanfare, a
lot of money come their way. And and these these
players in the w NBA are trying to prove a point.
What that point is, I don't know. So in the
(05:30):
long term, if it's a long term situation for the
w NBA, I think it's damaging to the brand. I
think it's damaging to to their game and the popularity
of their game. I really do. And if I'm the
w n B A, I think they got to play it.
This isn't about the players having that type of awareness.
It's about the league having the type of awareness where
(05:53):
they need to protect their their star asset.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And in this rookie player in Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's funny you pointed out the or earlier in what
you were saying, just about how kind of rookies get treated,
and that's part of it. And Diana Trossi had made
a comment that was kind of picked and pulled and
plucked and maybe maybe even misconstrued in some ways because
of her talking about the adjustment that Kaylen Clark would
have to make.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Look, this is a physical league.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's a league of the best of the best of
the women basketball players that are in the US, and
she's going to get knocked around.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
They're going to test her toughness.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Like, if I'm being honest as far as my objective
scouting report on Kayln Clark, if you get to her
and you get in her head and you get her flustered,
she's off. She's not gonna shoot in that game. She
didn't shoot overly well. I think she had a couple
of threes. That was it, maybe two for nine something
like that. But that is the scouting report. I mean,
at some point you've got to be, I guess aware
(06:54):
of some of your faults, some of your deficiencies. People
feel like she's a complainer. People feel like she'd us
some dirty stuff from time to time. And so if
that's part of the entire story is we'd like to
tell the entire story and not just Hey, you know
Kennedy Carter, who was the young woman who you know
knocked her down.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And look, she's faced her own issues.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
If you go back through her history, of playing in
the w NBA or even being out of the w
NBA for a period of time, and why she was
dismissed from those teams. Clearly she's got a track record.
Clearly she's got that. There's there's other things that you
can look into and say, Okay, this is this is
kind of part of her game. You know, she's one
of those agitators. She's one of those players that hasn't
gotten along with other teammates in the past. But I
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think what a lot of people draw attention to is
the fact that Angelice is on the bench and she's
applauding and you know, cheering on her teammate who commits
you know what, wasn't a flagrant foul and I don't
know even sure what they ended up calling it, but
obviously an unnecessary foul.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Right, there's no there's no reason to do that in
that moment.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And then everyone comes to Kaitlin Clark's defense like this
isn't pro sports, Like like someone else has to come
protect her. It's like, no, dude, this is pro sports.
This is part of the maturation process. They're gonna test you.
You're a rookie. This is part of the thing that
if I'm looking at him saying this is where her
game is a little bit off, is if you get
to her and you get in her head, she's not
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gonna play as well. She's gonna turn the ball over,
She's gonna take bad shots.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I mean, you could make.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The case on an offshooting night with some of the
shots she does take, they're not always the best shot,
the best play. I think the thing that stood out
to me the most though about that moment and how
this entire season has gone, is it's not just jealousy
from other girls around the league who have been doing
it for a long time and have made their comments,
whether it's Brewanna Stewart who had her moments in her words,
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or Dianah Tarassi or whoever else you want to talk
about that's already in the WNBA. Which is odd too,
because they have not received the criticism or I guess
they haven't handled the criticism well with the attention they've gotten.
That being said, what stood out to me about it
the most is the of anything from her teammates. There
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was no one in that moment who ran over to her.
There's no one who's kind of stepped up in the
podium and said anything. I mean, she's in a tough
spot from this perspective, Like not only is there's a
lot of jealousy and a lot of other players they're
playing against. I think there's jealousy on her own team
of the platform that she's been put on. And I
don't know that she's asked for it, by the way,
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it's just a matter of if she's been that person
that lightning run where everyone loves her style of play
in the three point shots and whatever else.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It is.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Everybody tries to make their rep off of the famous one,
the popular one, you know's and that's what she's coming
in as she's coming in as the popular one. She's
coming in as you know, the one that has the
spotlight has the spotlight on her. I mean, that's just
that is the law of the jungle in sports, and
we all know that. You know, you go out the
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neck of the one. Anybody who's that's the best player
right there, That's who I'm going after, right like that,
That is a mentality that does exist in sports and athletics.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean, that's just that, that is what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
But this definitely is I mean, are we overstating that
she may be getting targeted.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
That's that's what I ask myself if I if I were.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
To look at other other rookies that have come into
the league, were they getting targeted this way? Where they
getting banged up this way? Is it just the amount
of coverage that's on Caitlyn Clark, or is it is
it really truly a thing, you know, with with Caitlyn Clark,
because listen, I know, I know women basketball player. I
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was close with a lot of women basketball players when
I was in the league, and they are very, very
passionate about what they do. They're very physical, they they
they want to be respected, they want to be admired
and revered the same way any other athlete wants to
be admired and revered. And I just wonder that, you know,
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is it the coverage If Caitlyn Clark wasn't Caitlyn Clark
and she was a rookie, would she still be getting
banged up?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Probably?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
So would it be to this level, I don't know,
would it be to this level of coverage. It certainly
wouldn't be the level of coverage. So I wonder how
much of the exposure of Caitlyn Clark is the reason
why it's coming across the way that it's coming across.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, And I also wonder for a lot of the
players out there that are taking their shots or if
you're Angel Reese and and you know, you could say,
all I've known Angel res but I don't know Angel
Reason until this whole back and forth of Kaitlyn Clark
and Kennedy Carter's name, no one knew her until this
as well. Very true, she's kind of just floated under
the radar in the league and honestly, it's been out
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of the league a periods of time in her career.
So it's odd to me that there's there are some
players that feel like they're kind of making her name
almost of being the villain, being the agitator to her
in this situation.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And that's that's what I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
If, like, if you're Angel Reese, like carve out your
own separate deal to this. And some people might say,
well Shorty has it's like, well, not really, Like if
you're asking for her to step out of the shadow
that's casting behind Caitlyn Clark, that she hasn't done that
yet because incidents like that where she's standing up, she's
cheering for her teammate from the bench. Who does it
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makes a dirty play like that, and I don't care
if it's even in retaliation.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Like someone talks trash to you.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And there's people who slowed down the video and they're like, oh,
she gave an elbow when they're trying to get the basketball.
It's like, I don't know, it looked like she was
getting hooked by Kennedy Carter.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It didn't look so much like an.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Elbow could have gone either way, regardless of that circumstance.
Like you got a player with their back turn you
and you take a cheap shot on them.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's a cheap shot, call what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, And so if you're gonna stand up and cheer
for that, it's like, well, now you're bringing the attention
back on yourself of being for that, being against that.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know, it seemed like they had bared the hatchet.
Apparently they haven't.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Either way, I'm hoping this storyline dies down because it's
getting to a point where like, I'm not necessarily always
going to watch or be as big of a fan.
I'm just tired of talk about in the storylines like
allow your league to be allow your league to be
elevated by your play, and allow your league to be
elevated by the talent that's there instead of storylines. Unless
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the unless the w NBA is taking a page out
of the NBA playbook where they say, hey, maybe our
games aren't enticing enough to fans, where we have to
create drama. We have to create this, these these storylines
that don't have anything to do with basketball itself. If
that's the direction they had WNBA wants to go, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
But look at the NBA. There's been a viewership declined
for a reason.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And you could you could point to the style of play,
you can point to maybe the super teams, whatever you
want to point to, but people are not watching as
much as they used to watch.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
There's a reason for that. I think that's a short
term play too. You like to say, the.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Drama of it and the way they're allowing her or
the way she's being treated is going to draw viewership.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
It's short term. That's a short term deal.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And you got to know if that's if your investment
is in short term pop of having Kitlin Clark get
her ass knocked around all over the place, then that
now that that you would have to assume that now
makes me look at the WNBA in a in a
different manner, you know, like, am I even interested in this?
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Like they're okay with letting her like be in roller
Derby and this is basketball, Like it's basketball not roller Derby,
Like let's go like, let's see, let's see them play basketball.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Maybe purists would say she has to be able to
deal with the physicality of what's coming her way, and
other girls have had to deal with it in years
past as well. It's nothing new other than the coverage
on her. I feel like this is one. This is
one of those conversations is where I don't know where
the line of truth or or reasonable sensibility. I don't
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know where that one exists in this one.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I just want to get back to it being about
the sport and about the players. Like if we if
we want to make you know, if people want to
make the w NBA what you know they can make it,
then make it more about the other story lines and
not this this one that we keep.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Being a divorce.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Fair.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
That's fair because.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It gets old, man, it's kidding old fast sold that
we're going to transition off this topic, so them right
and the coming to live from the ti iraq dot
com studios. Remember when Ben Johnson, he's off It's coordinator
for the Troy Lyons, he was interviewing for all these
head coaching jobs in the last head coaching search cycle.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
A lot of stuff came out. Did he turned down?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Maybe the Washington Commanders, maybe some other teams that were
interviewing him.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Did they turn him down, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
We've got an update on some of that as Ben
Johnson decided to be a little more open and honest
about the approach and the process. And one NFL head
coach who talked about a shorter preseason and not so
much a fan of lack of development and some other reasons.
We'll have the four you here on the other side
this break.
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Speaker 3 (17:03):
About what would you do.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
If this was my interest song? There'd be some judgment
passed on me.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I would judge you, aud I would did you submit
your song and yet? So we can change up these
interest I'm gonna send it right now. Come on, man,
I'm gonna send it right now. I'm sending it right now.
You know Jonas hasn't He's half the problem.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm actually gonna uh, I'm gonna email him today or
text him today and make sure he does.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
We need to get on this because it takes a
while to turn it over.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
You know, I'm gonna send a song right now while
we're doing this segment.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, you send it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You'll listen to two pros and a cup of Joe
coming to you live from the ti iraq dot com studios.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I'm Brady Quinn. That's LeVar Arrington, no Jonas Knox today.
He'll be back here in a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Coming up at the top of this hour, We've got
Petros Papa Dacus. He'll be taken over and leading us
to a path where really no one knows, uh speak,
have a path that no one knows. Kind of felt
like last year Ben Johnson didn't really know what he wanted,
whether want to become a head coach somewhere else or
stand Detroit be the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
He ended up staying or electing to Stand Detroit.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
We've heard multiple reports after the fact, most that I
kind of took issue with, only because it feels like
when a team doesn't get their number one guy, LeVar,
then it starts being like, well he wasn't our number
one guy. No we turned him down right, No, no, no, no,
Like the boyfriend girlfriend scenario. You know it was them,
you know they like I broke up with them, It
wasn't the other way around. You typically get those sorts
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of conversations, Well, Ben Johnson is able to provide a
little bit more clarity on the subject.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Let's let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Something that really resonates with me, is, okay, eight openings
this past year. What would you set the over under
in three years help me still have jobs?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Shoot? Yeah, I've put the over under at four and
a half.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
I would say there's a good chance five of them
are out of jobs in three years. And so when
I look at it from that perspective, if I get
the opportunity to go down that road, it's it's about
how do I get to that second contract. How do
I set myself up that the stars need to align.
I'm not I'm not going to do it just to
do it. I love what I'm doing right now, love it,
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Love I love where I'm at, my family, loves where
we're at, love the people that we're.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Doing it with.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
And so I'm not willing to go down the other
path yet unless i feel really good about how it's
going to unfold.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That's Ben Johnson, the current offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions,
and look, he's been a big reason, in my opinion,
why Jared Goff has had success the Alliance have had
success offensively.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
He's been up for head coaching.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Jobs, you know, year after year since he's taken over
there in Detroit. His creativity, his ability to find ways
of getting the playmakers the ball, all of that has
been on display. And I've listened to his words, gonna
read the reports some of his quotes, and don't I
don't find anything.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Wrong with that. The guy's he's very pragmatic in his approach.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I think he's looking out of the very realistic perspective,
and I think he understands his value too, where he's
going to get other shots and opportunities if he's as
good as he thinks he is, and I think he is.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I think he's proven that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So I'm not sure why more coaches don't take that opportunity,
And maybe it's because they're in a spot or a
situation that they don't feel as good about. Where you
look at what Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell and the
Detroit Lions organization now is built up guys like Chris
Spielman who are a part of it, and the Ford
family and the way they've transitioned now with this group.
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Maybe it's important because he does feel so comfortable there
and confident there as opposed to sometimes other assistant coaches
or coordinators are like, man, this thing might not be
the same next year. You know, we could have a
terrible season. They might can all of us. How much
do you think I has to do with that?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It's very that's very true, and it's very realistic. And
I mean today's NFL, they hire and fire pretty quickly.
You know, the turnover can be very very quick. You've
seen guys get just one year, like they haven't even
gotten a full entire season, sometimes before judgment is being
dropped on them. Listen, I think that it's it's by person,
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It's it's by mentality, it's by goals, it's by a
lot of different variables, I would say, and how you
go about approaching what you want your trajectory to be,
what you want your accomplishment to be, uh, and where
you ultimately want to end up.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Listen, you're you're mentioning the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That was not a favorable situation for a coach to
walk into. You know, it's much like what's going on
in Carolina right now. You're trying to figure out which
way is up as an organization with with that that team.
That's a lot like how it was in Detroit until
Dan Campbell got there and whatever it is that took place,
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the culture shift that took place, the people that Dan
Campbell and company were a part of hiring to create
what they've created. It's taking time to build that when
you look at something being built a certain type of way,
and if I'm Ben Johnson and I've seen things and
unfold the way they're unfolding in Detroit, I sit there
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and I ask myself a simple question. If I go
to a certain a certain franchise, do I get that
amount of time? Do I get the fear opportunity? Are
they going to let me hire who I need to hire?
Am I going to have the like I said, Am
I going to be able to get the hires and
have the amount of time to bring in the type
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of players develop the culture? Because ultimately that's generally the
only way you're going to change a failing organization and
generally speaking, the only way you're going to get a
head coaching jobs if it was a failing team. So
there's just so many different variables that are a part
of it. Some coaches are like, look, I'm gonna take
my chance. I don't get a chance all the time.
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So if a head coaching job comes available and I
can get it, then I'm going to get it. And
I don't care if that means I'm going to lose
or whatever. I'm taking that gig. Some look at it
as I don't all good get all coaching jobs aren't
aren't created equal, and all of them aren't the best
to step into. So I just think that it's a
matter of where that coach. You know what they're frame
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of thought, you know what it is and what leads
them to and what motivates them to do what it
is that they do, and where they're ultimately trying to get.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You know, you reacted off of him basically saying what
in three or four years, you know, half these guys
be fired.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You got a reaction off that. Why the reaction, I
mean cause he's right, Yeah, he's right. I mean it's
just to me, just because he said it, is that
more of it?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
No, No, I said, what like a lot of people think,
I think you're.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Saying what people Yes, that's what it is, I think
is what people are thinking.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's what you're you're realizing. I mean, is he wrong?
You know what's crazy. Let me let me tell you this.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I was just I was just on a visit to
u c l A this weekend with with Man and.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
What Up Man? Man and and and I.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
This is the first time I ever met Eric b Enemy,
first time I ever met him, and I was kind
of apprehensive about even just kind of talking to him
because I just know the conversations I've had to have
about him on air with the same type of conversation
points and what's taking place. Dude is one of the
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most impressive dudes you'll be around, very charismatic, understands the game,
breaks it down very very easily where it's easily consumed.
Just just was I was. I was expecting one thing
when when when I saw him, and it turned out
to be something totally different. And you just never know
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what the real story is on something. You just know
what the narrative becomes, and you don't necessarily know why
the narrative becomes the narrative, but it does.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And I just think that in coaching, man.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's such a it's such a it's a unique situation.
It's a unique profession, especially in the NFL. And if
you don't play your cards right, you could find yourself
in a position where you're never You're never in play
to get that gig. And I think for Ben Johnson
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to be looking at what he's doing the way he's
looking at it like, I'm good where I'm at. I'm
gonna keep doing what I'm doing. I'm gonna keep building here.
And as my resume grows, and you know, my accomplishments grow.
If the rights situation presents itself for me, or this
situation begins to deteriorate in some way, then I'll make
a decision there. But if you're not in a situation
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where you have to make a bold decision where you
know this is a losing situation but you're taking it anyway.
If you're not really in a situation where you got
to make that call, to you, why would you do it?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Right? Why do it? No?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's obviously going to impact your legacy, it's going to
impact your impression.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Most most coaches only get one shot.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
There's not many that get too and so you better
feel good about taking on that head coaching job as
you go into it.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And I'm trying to think of hold on, let me
look this up.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
The Michigan's men basketball coach who came from FAU most recently.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
His name is escaped me at the moment, but is
a Dusty May. Is that Dusty May?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So he was at FAU and he talked about taking
that job, and he took that job really without having
seen the facilities, hadn't seen and anything else that was
down in the Bookrot's on area that particular campus. And
he literally broke down after soon signing and taking on
this deal because he had taken over this program not
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really knowing all the facts and not realizing how much
of an uphill battle it was going to be coming
from the program he just came from. I think he
was previously like ACROT or something like that, and they
were doing well and he was an assistant at the time,
and so he essentially took the job because it was
a head coaching job and everything else, but there were
moments of doubt and and you know, and it's a
different spot now because he built up the program. He
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had the incredible run to the Final Four for FAU
that ultimately had led to his hiring now at Michigan
as the men's basketball coach. But the point is is
that actually reading that article about him breaking down, I
felt bad for him. I mean, it's his own fault
for not doing his due diligence. But that's the position
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somebody these had coaches are or some of these head
coaching prospects are in.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
They don't know when.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That next big opportunity is gonna come, and I think
everyone looks at it with an optimistic perspective saying, well,
of course I'm gonna go there and win. Like people
who question play calling, do you think the guy called
the play because it wasn't gonna work? Like, clearly they
saw something that they were like, no, it's going to work.
Like we see this in business, where you know, companies
make decisions and they're like, no, this is gonna work.
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This is the fad, this is the trend. Of course
this is gonna work. And we're doing our own personal
lives right Like, we make decisions all the time about stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
We're like, no, this is why I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's gonna work, and then when when it doesn't, it's
like okay, Like but in this, in this instance, there
has to be helpless you know, walk into a scenario
realizing like, oh this is now what I thought it is,
and now I'm stuck in a three four year contract.
Yes you're being compensated well, but this might be the
only shot I ever get, and this is it like
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having to deal with all this, So you better be
picky about it when it comes to what opportunities you
choose to take.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
And especially for Ben.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Johnson, a guy who I think, I think it'll be
a great head coach whenever that moment comes. I just
think he's looking for the right moment, the right ownership,
the right structure to everything that he's looking for. And
clearly that wasn't the case, at least that was offered
to him last offseason. Speaking on the Detroit Lions, though,
one of the more outspoken head coaches was Dan Campbell
in regards to a shorter preseason, and he talked about
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lack of NFL development.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Just take a listen to some of these words.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Give an opinion potentially on if the league goes to
an eighteen game schedule, cutting one preseason game.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Not really, I mean the hard thing is, man, that's
another game. But yet, if you reduce a preseason game,
you've got all these young guys you're trying to develop,
and you've got to have.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Them every year.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
I mean, you look at what we were able to
do with some of our young guys last year and
how much they how important they were to us to winning.
But man, there's a process to it, and so you know,
if you don't get them developed or get them enough
reps to where they help you, then you that's the
only thing.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
That's what you lose, and that's the reality.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Is a former player now head coach, he understands the
importance for a lot of the young players, a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Of back into the roster guys.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm sure at some point in time in his career
he's a back end of the roster guy and he
looked at his opportunity to showcase I still got it
because otherwise you don't have those those opportunities quite as much.
That's my fear, at least for some of the league,
unless they, you know, buy out the UFL and they
make that there spring light their developmental league, is you
lose a lot of these real reps that are going
to be meaningful for a lot of young players.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
You definitely need meaningful reps because at the pro level,
it's less reps, it's it's less time for guys that
are not the focal point players. So listen, I don't
know how all that that that's all going to work
out or whatever, but I will say getting getting an
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opportunity to showcase that, like you said, you still can
do it. Getting the opportunity to showcase that you actually
can do it to begin with is vitally important for
guys that are fighting for roster spots. And you know,
that could be the difference in a person making a
roster and having a job or not making a roster
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and having to look around and try to figure out
what they do to have an income to be able
to survive and live, you know, live their lives.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
So it's high stakes. It's high stakes.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And I think the other thing is I look at
some players who it might be the last football to
ever play. You're taking away more opportunities for them from
that perspective. And I know there's a lot of people
who probably don't care, but to me, like I do
care about how it ends for a lot of guys
who play the game of football, like I love the
game of football, and whether it's you know, they finish
out their college.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Days, they get a few preseason games and that's it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know, they get cut in camp, they don't make
another roster a team, and they move on to that
next thing that is in their life.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I just I wish there's more opportunities for that. You know.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
The game has been so impactful in my life, and
I just I hate to see, you know, how it's
going to end for some of these guys where they
don't get any any sort of experience like that to
put on a pro helmet, pro uniform, be out there,
even if it is just a preseason game. I call
me a softy. Whatever you want, that's just how I
feel about it. So take it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
For what it is. You know, I got you, man.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
It's always nice to be able to get some meaningful,
impactful footage. That's what they always say. Make sure you're
putting it on film. Even in practice. I say practice hard,
because that's on film. You may be able to use
your practice film to get onto a roster.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Honestly, all right, I'll fully divulge.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Like what literally just entered my brain where you see
these guys who are free agents and they're using social
media to show, hey, I still got it. You know,
they're showing like their workouts, they're showing then like old
film they have from practice. And it's those moments where
I feel bad because I'm looking at the player going
you had no shot, Like you're not You're not getting
back into the NFL if you're a part of a
(33:03):
training camp or preseason whatever and that's all you've got.
Is if the only thing you got was just practice
film and you working out on some field with a
quick foot ladder or someone throwing some balls to you,
or you're running routes on air, like that's that's not
going to do it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Like, you gotta get to the UFL. You gotta go
play overseas.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
There's a lot of there's a European Football league that
just started, the EFL over there, a couple of coaches
that I know. Actually I've taken the opportunity to go
over there and coach so pretty neat actually. But the
point is is you've got to have some other tape
and film out there. And this again only two preseason games.
It takes away a lot of that opportunity for.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Some of those players. But we got to take a
break before that.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Let's get all the latest around the sports were with
our guy Eddie Garcia, Eddie, what's going on.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Well, we've got the Stanley Cup Final matchup now set.
After Game six of the Western Conference Finals last night,
the Oilers hold off the Stars for a two to
one win. Edmonton was out shot thirty five to ten,
but they get a couple of power play goals, one
from Connor McDavid, one from Zach Hyman, and their goalie,
Stewart Skinner was great with thirty four saves and net
Edmonton wins that series four games and two. They're onto
the Stanley Cup Final for the eighth time in franchise history.
(34:10):
They'll face the Florida Panthers starting next coming Saturday in Florida.
Baseball Games of note d the Sunday night game. With
the Cardinals beating the Phillies in Philadelphia five to four
in ten innings, Saint Louis now has moved into the
final wildcard spot in the National League. Yankees over the
Giants in San Francisco seven to five. New York rallies
with four in the ninth to sweep the series.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
One.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Soto hit a couple of home runs for him. They've
now overtaken Philadelphia for the best record in baseball at
forty two and nineteen Dodger shut out the Rockies four
no thing. LA starter Gavin Stone and three relievers combining
on a five hit shutout. Brewers wrap up a sweep
of the White Sox with a six five win. Milwaukee's
won five in a row. Chicago's now dropped eleven straight.
Guardians lose to the Nationals five to two. Orioles follow
(34:50):
the race four to three, and the Mariners wrap up
a sweep of the Angels with a five to one win.
Halos have dropped five in a row. WNBA Fever lose
big to the Liberty one to four to two sixty eight.
Indiana's Caitlin Clark had just three points. She was one
or ten from the field, one of seven bind the
three point line, and her team is now two to
nine on the season. NFL News, the Washington Commanders of
released kicker Brandon McManus after a lawsuit was filed against
(35:12):
him accusing him of sexual assault while he was playing
with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now by Filavar Arrington Brady Quinn
from the Tirak dot Com. Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Thanks Eddie, coming up next here on two Pros and
a Cup of Joe. Don't let's not forget top of
the hour, Petros Papa Dacas will be taking over the
controls and who knows where that's gonna go. But after
this little break, we've got the fsr IR and apparently
Ian Roddy has quite the story for us.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
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Speaker 3 (36:06):
Again, just search two Pros wherever you get.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Your podcasts, and you'll see today's show is posted right
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about ten minutes, Petros Papadacus I'll be joining us for
the final hour of today's show as well as tomorrow. Well,
I get a sense for what he has to say
about all the things we've been discussing this morning. But
(36:29):
now it's time for a little something we do called
this after a long weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
After your sports weekend happens.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
So it's time to get the fsr IR report all.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Right once again in for lead to lap as, our
producer Ian roddy Ian claims, you've already I mean, this
is really our first appearance, you know, working together like this,
and you've already got a story for us.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah, yeah, I do. Unfortunately I do. It sounds so
just last night. And let me actually preface this by
saying that I somewhat probably brought this on myself by
not warning my roommates that I had an early shift
the next morning. But I did, you know, for this
show get up pretty early three am start Pacific time.
(37:15):
But last night I wanted to go to bed really
really early. That's what I do when I have an
early shift like that, just kind of shift my sleep
schedule over. A couple of my roommates had some people
over last night, and I went to bed at like,
you know, seven ish, seven thirty, and they had people
start getting there around eight eight thirty, and that's kind
of you know, I was in bed falling asleep or
(37:37):
trying to fall asleep. Music started playing, and it just
made the whole experience a lot harder to do, especially
when you know, over the course of the night, I
gradually wake up at times someone's puking in the bathroom
right next to my right next to my bedroom.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
That's happening.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
A guy ended up getting in a fight with his
girlfriend on the phone really loud, at least I think
that that's what it sounded like. They were playing this
dice game called Liar's Dice, where you smack these dice
on the table that are inside these cups.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
So that was loud.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
That sounds kind of fun though, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
No, it actually is a really fun game.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
It's just not fun when I'm trying to sleep and
have to get up really early the next morning.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
So did part you so selfish?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Man?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I did part of you want to pull leed alab
just say all right, I'm going to go ahead join in.
Speaker 10 (38:24):
I knew what you were going to say before you
even said it.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
With Lee is that Lee's reputations, like everyone pretty much knows.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Anyone who's seen Lee's Twitter knows this y the mullet,
the empty beer cans and cups on planes just.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Do you have a strong stomach, Like when when the.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Restroom break where the guy or gal was was giving
up the ghost to the porcelain god.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
What like, how does that impact you?
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Because I know for me, I'll have to go next
or I'll have to find the trash can because I
got a real sensitive like the.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Thought of it makes you want like that operates your
activates your gag if it does, it does I'm not
like that, thankfully, but you know, I will say that
I do think I have one, like a weaker stomach.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
I am so like it doesn't take a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
But I'm not someone you see it thought out it air.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
You can handle hearing it, but had you seen it,
you'd be.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Out it air.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
That might do it for me.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah yeah, okay, Loria. Do you do you have any
think forest for this weekend?
Speaker 10 (39:27):
I guess I kind of do.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
I went to the six to six market this weekend
and yeah, it's super fun. It has a whole bunch
of like Japanese food. It's down in Coasta, Mesa.
Speaker 10 (39:37):
Okay, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Why six two six Is that the area code or something?
Is the area code?
Speaker 11 (39:42):
It is the area code, but they do it in
all sorts of places, So I mean, I don't really
think that works anyways. Yeah, it was the end of
the night. I was about to leave. I just handed
my daughter twenty bucks to go buy the last thing
that she wanted, and then all of a sudden, my
wallet's gone. Oh no, And it's the smallest little wallet too.
It's not even a wallet's a coin purse. And it
was all black, and I thought I was screwed. And
(40:03):
I drive to Oregon this week I was like, oh
my gosh, I have tears running down my face, like.
Speaker 10 (40:08):
I'm the worst.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Get it back to you.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
No, but someone actually turned it into.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
The Lost and found Who does that?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
And they left the cash inside a Good Samaritan? Wow, person,
that's crazy. Where do you think you lost it there?
Speaker 11 (40:24):
You know, there's not a lot of places to lose it,
so probably somewhere.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Between the dollars wed Leg and the and.
Speaker 10 (40:35):
The whiskey shots.
Speaker 11 (40:36):
It was somewhere between there time good Leg.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Quick question, would you guys feel guilty if you took
the cash out of it but then turned it in
so like the person gets their stuff back where you're
taking the cash.
Speaker 11 (40:46):
No, Honestly, I was hoping they would take the money
as a payment like thank you, thank you for turning
in my wallet.
Speaker 10 (40:51):
The first thing you check for when you get your
wallet back cards, the.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Money, my cards, and my identity is there.
Speaker 10 (40:59):
I'm okay, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
You just assume the cash is gone.
Speaker 10 (41:03):
Yeah, I assumed it wouldn't be in there. But it
was only five bucks.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Oh my gosh, your five bucks a payment for Lost
and found.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It was all there.
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