February 22, 2023 • 39 mins
Cardinals new head coach Jonathan Gannon takes accountability for blown coverages by the Eagles in the Super Bowl. New details come out about Alabama Basketball player Brandon Miller providing the gun in the Darius Miles murder case. Plus, the weekly awards on ‘The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.’
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So we do have some accountability here in the National
Football League. And it's Jonathan Gannon, the brand new head
coach of the Arizona Cardinals, who, in talking with Peter
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King the MMQB, he says that when it comes to
the play call that they couldn't stop at the end
zone or near the goal line against the Kansas City
Chiefs in the Super Bowl, he takes responsibility for it.
Didn't put his guys in position to make a play.
They were very upset about it, and so multiple times
they got burnt. Not that that was the only thing
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that led to them losing the game, but nonetheless, Jonathan
Gannon owning up to some mistakes and taking some accountability
for what happened in that Super Bowl, and it's about
time and he better get used to it, because it's
not like what the team who's got a quarterback who
takes any accountability for anything now. So there's just that
just saying that's been kind of a problem with Kyler Murray.
A lot of pointing the finger and not necessarily the thumb,
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and we've seen that play out on the sideline. So
Jonathan Gannon already getting some reps in there. What are
you saying? Is that standing tall and taking all the blame?
Come on, do that? What do you mean you and
your I thought you were better than that broad shoulder
stacks and jas standing tall six four two forty. I
mean it's talloked, that's Brady Quinn. He's gonna sit there.
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It's what yoke doney man, He's gonna sit here and
he's gonna, you know, talk trash about somebody who was
less fortunate. Questions. I thought I thought it was a
valid question. Yeah, I thought it was a valid comments.
He's all jacked. Okay, what else? Jack and what yoked?
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Still got that ass pumping in? Now we're done? Yeah,
far Let me ask you this, when you saw the
second touchdown to Skymore in the game, and it was
the exact same play as when they first as the
one they threw Darius Tony h were you what were
you thinking? I was trying to see who was in coverage,
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but my first thought was why is there not a
corner out there? Waiting? It was why that's so? Yeah?
I was like, why is there not a corner? Like
when they were running the when they were running the
motion into the flare, I was like, Okay, that is
a compromise because you got a flare and you got
somebody in the flat, and and so you're you're splitting
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the you're splitting the difference. But I still almost feel like,
all right, they had to saw something in the coverage
to start running it, because you should in theory, you
should have a corner out there in the flats that
can play the flat and the flare if they're in
his own and if and if it's man coverage, then
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you should be ready prepared to switch. Right. You deliver
that that number, that receiver on the outside to the
next person, whether it's the safety or the linebacker, and
you get that back that's in the flat. You know,
but I think you know, I don't know. You gotta
account for the quarterback. Even though Pat Mahomes was Patrick
Mahomes was was not fully healthy in the game, he
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still showed he could run. So it creates a dilemma
when you have that quarterback that can be mobile for
the team. But I just was thinking, you you got
to switch the man and rid zone. You can't play
his own, and you gotta be ready to switch and
it looked like it was covered four and they were
pushing that backside safety because as soon as the outside
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receiver went to run like he's running across and the
corner bumped down and then the safety was running hard
to get to the other side. Whether it was gonna
be a three wide receiver set at one sky more
Kadarius Tony, you know, either one ended up returning back out.
There was just no one out there. It was just
wide open. It was. It didn't look good. That's I
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certainly will say like if if it happens once, I
could see it. But they ran it like several several times,
maybe more, and it was it was pretty much open.
By the way, the name of that place is called
corn Dogs. Were familiar with that. That's what it's called
corn Dog. Is that? But is that like shots and explosives?
Is that kind of like? I mean, you know, and
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they got that coming to him right? Who did he
do a interview where he said that talking to rond Moore?
Oh that's all you know, Jonathan Gannon talking to Rondel Moore. Yeah,
that was really weird man, Like I presh of it. Yeah,
zip zip, Like that's really what he what he said
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to him, Like if you watch the video, he sees
Ron del Moore and he gets excited and he shakes
his hand, and there was no hey man, shots explosives
like I love to know when Rod del Boor was
thinking of that moment, Like, I'm glad he knows who
I am, But what are you doing? Dude? He's thinking
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like video game arcade noises what he's talking to him? Shot,
It's supposed to be fun, So there you go. You know,
we were talking earlier about like relationships between players and
coaches and stuff like that, and how you know, maybe
you know, a coach may not get along with another,
you know, get along with a player. You know, sometimes
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it's a necessary at least old school wise, it's a
necessary evil to have good cops and bad cops. You know,
I guess that's not even a great great term anymore,
you know where we're at in society. But sometimes it's
had the good good person and the bad person, right
and and and some people are really really like you
heard him say, he's a player coach. You know, it's
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it's basically saying that they're far and few in between
where you have a layer coach like coaches aren't friendly
to players more like a parent situation, like I'm not
here to be your friend. I'm here to be your parent,
Like I'm not here to be your guy, you know,
I'm here to be your coach. So I don't know,
Like and that's interesting, you like when when when those
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conversations come up, do you find yourself like kind of
thinking about, like, well, what is a relationship supposed to
actually entail between a player and a coach? Like that,
there's nothing that says that a coach and a player
have to be on friendly terms, you know, Like you
have a job, y'all both have a job to do,
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you know what you think? I mean, I always subscribe
to like I didn't need you to give me a compliment.
You know, I kind of always adhered to coaching where
if I was doing what I was doing, you just
leave me alone. If I'm not doing something right, let
me know you let me hear about it. But that
was how I always appreciated coaching. Like I always hated,
you know, someone coming over and feeling like they needed
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to give me a comple that before they said something critical.
It's like, you don't need to do that, Just tell
me what I need to improve upon, How can I
get better? Give me the truth? And I think in
that case, you know, any relationship with a player coach,
I just wanted to be genuine. I don't have any
problem if Jonathan Gannon is naturally like that. You know,
if he's kind of a quirky dude, and you know
he's he's more high energy and he's gonna relate to
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players in that way, it's cool. I mean, it's different.
I mean and also like, I'll never forget there was
a coach and I used to ask him. I was like,
you know, I was like, what's your recruiting technique? And
he goes. What I try to do is find a
way of standing out from everyone else that comes into
school and comes into like visit with kids, and he goes.
So I usually try to take them, say, hey, do
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you want to go out and sit on the bleachers?
Do you want to go out and walk on the
football field? Like his whole thing was he just wanted
to do something that separated him from everyone else. And
even though it might feel odd, it might be quirky,
it might be unique or different. As long as it
was something that stood out, it ended up being more
of I guess it was a better relationship, or at
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least it was something that differentiated them from everyone else.
And so I don't have any problem if you're a
quirky guy, that's how you coach, and that's how you communicate.
But I just hope it's genuine, like you don't need
to be someone you're not. I think the NFL locker
rooms sniffed that out in a harpiet Yeah they do.
I think that's a good point. I mean for me,
I know, I grew up old school, so I had
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from Peewee League on up, I would always have coaches
that were like very animated, Like I always associated animated
characters to coaches, like almost like cartoon characters where you
diet it get there hell like, like that's what I
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got used to. Like. I recall one of my first
memories of a coach was Coach Bellas. No he ain't
here no more, all right, got rest in peace, Coach Bellas.
But I said when I was first first memories bro
likely I'm old Jonas um he coached Coincidentally, he coached
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the Westview Redskins that no longer able to say that name.
The Westview was so that it was the youth organization
I played in and Westview, Yeah, so all I could remember. Yeah,
my first coach was coach Klinger. He's gone to God,
ain't what he's gone, man, right now? No, but he's
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gone to But but I remember bringing up to Jonas
and I always people are dead down. Yeah right, dang.
Any relation to David Clinger, No, No, any relation to
Boss Hog maybe maybe, but maybe not anyway, couch together
right now. Yeah, they are about to take him out,
you know, for a walk. Um. I just remember how
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loud coach Bellis was and I was like, man, next year,
I have to go play for him. And this is
like I'm being introduced to football, and it's like we
had a loud coach on on the first team the Braves,
Um coach Barry. He was loud, but he was I
think he's still here. Uh yeah, I think he's still here. Uh.
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But it just to me, you start to get acclimated
as to what that's supposed to feel. Why y'all messing
with me out just trying to give a point about
coaches and coaching is like I just always always wondered
at at certain points in time, like when I got
to high school, I never questioned, like once I got
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acclimated in you, I never really questioned coaching. It just
was coaching is coaching. And however, your coach is Our
de coordinator was way more animated. Our offensive coordinator was
very low key cool calm. Our head coach was real cool.
He was you know, he was calm. Then I got
to college and it was like dang, like like it
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just it made you. It made me start questioning, like
what is your relationship supposed to be with your coach?
And then once I got to the league, it was
kind of like, well, you tell me what I need
to do. There doesn't even need to really be relationships.
You just tell me what my job is and I'll
do my job. I just always like just listening to
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like what Shady had to say, you know, about the
coaching situation, it just made me wonder like, like is
that even still a conversation about coaching? And then now
you know, talking about the sound effects and doing that,
is that even still a thing? Like coaching player relationship
is not a thing. Do you guys think that because
you grew up with in military families that you had
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it like your baseline was respect authority and that you
carry that through your entire football probably, yeah, probably. So
I had to get up at a certain time every day.
I had to make sure that my bid was made
a certain way every day, like the way my it was,
the the you know, the cover on it, the comforter
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on it. It had to be like it what was
two inches or something away from the floor, like I
had to be able to put two fingers under it,
like that type stuff. I had to vacuum my room
every morning, like I had. I had a very very
structured like way of growing up and and and I
don't know, maybe it was I was used to being.
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I mean, I was never really handled in a way
by my parents that was like a coach like when
I played. But I mean I definitely had structure, and
I didn't like it either. By the way, I didn't
like to have to get up. Like if if we
didn't get up for a certain amount of time, my
mom would actually come down the hallway with a pot
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and and a a like a a Scooper or whatever,
a spoon. She'd be banging that bad boy boom boom boom,
boom boom. You gotta get up, you gotta get up,
and it'd be early. My mom was early riser. So
it was just like you start to get the you
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don't sleep in college, like when you start playing football
in college, you don't even sleep. So I started learning
the ways of like the culture early on in life.
I don't even know how we got off on this tangent,
but zoom. I just yeah, there you go to sound
effects zoom zoom suon and it won and it worked,
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and it worked. It was the difference in the game.
Right one more time explosives zoom. I do I do
have to call you out on this though, Q you
know you do? You do get upset at Jonas when
he does that to you. You know, what do you mean?
You know I'm late for tire Ac. I'm not going
to do it on a well. He knows I'll do it.
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I shall do it. When I am ready to do it.
I'm his wind up to all. Do it one more time,
do it one more time. Zoom zoo, zoo zoom. What
I love most is Jonas looks awkward when he does
stuff like this. I was sitting there looking at I
look awkward, look at Jonathan Gannon and tell me he
looks more awkward me or him were natural doing it.
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I was kind of like, that's just as he didn't
have a microphone on it. Are you try you trying
to say? Are you trying to say Jonathan Gannon can
out zoom me? Is though you're trying to say he can?
The originator a bunch of crap. Man guarantee I could
beat him. All right. It is Two Pros and a
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the tirac dot com studios. It's a little weird, right
Zoom zoom, explosives, shots shops, zoom zoom, zoom zoom. It's quirky,
a little weird, all right. So from that we transition
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smoothly over to this. So the situation at Alabama with
the basketball team, my god, let's have a bit aggressive man.
So this is this goes back to Darius Miles, one
of the players on the team, who was arrested. He
and another man last month killed a woman, shot and
killed a woman in Tuscaloosa, fired shots into a car.
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She was sitting at in the car with another gentleman
who fired back, but she was killed. She's a mother.
It's a terrible situations, obviously a tragedy. Darius Miles was arrested,
so as this other man who apparently did the shooting.
They were both in the car, and so that's been
sort of in the background of Alabama, who's had a
really good season. I believe number two in the country
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right now, if I'm not mistaken, like a really good team,
a team that a lot of people look at, is
being able to make a deep run in the tournament. Well,
apparently some new developments and new details have come out.
Brandon Miller, who's one of the star players on the team,
one of the best players in college basketball, projected lottery
pick freshman. Apparently he provided the gun that was used
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in the murder, and there's text message evidence that Darius
Miles reached out to him to ask for the gun,
he delivered the gun to him, and then furthermore, his
car and a car of another teammate were on the
road blocking the vehicle that was shot into from getting away.
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But they the DA when asked about why Brandon Miller
wasn't charged with anything, they said, there's nothing we can do.
There's nothing we can charge him with. It feels like
there's something you could charge him with. Nobody knew before
yesterday what was actually happening. I would assume that's an accomplice,
an accessory to murder or something. I don't think that's
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an accessory. You were an accomplice. I mean, that's where
I come from. That's called accomplice. Well, Natots, the head
coach of Alabama, spoke about the situation yesterday and he
had to clarify his comments after this statement. Here was
the Alabama head coach. We knew about that. I mean,
you know, you can't control everything anybody does outside of practice.
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Nobody knew that was going to happen. College kids are out.
Brandon hasn't been in any type of trouble, nor is
he in any type of trouble on this case, like
the wrong spot at the wrong time. So that was
a little bit of what his press conference. Let me
ask you guys this, let me ask you this, and
gathering that information in terms of if he's an accomplice
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or not. Are is the source reliable in terms of
saying that the cars were helping block the other car
from getting out, yes, Now, whether it was helping or
just coincidentally there they don't have evidence of that, Well,
then that's a little different in context, that's a little different.
But his car did have bullet holes in it, and
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that was stuff that wasn't privy to the media and
nobody knew about until yesterday when this report from al
dot com came out. And the part that I find
odd about it all is he was spoken like they
spoke to him a couple of different times from my understanding,
and that's why they didn't charge him with anything. And
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so people are outraged that a, you know, Natoates came
off off as being sort of dismissive a little bit
of the whole situation. But also why is he even
allowed to be playing basketball if he's got this level
of involvement in this situation? And that's the part I
struggle with because I don't know, There's got to be
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something else out there, because I can't imagine if all
of this was available to the program, to the university,
to the coach, that you would still just let him
play without thinking any of this stuff would eventually come
out and it would be a bad look for everybody involved.
Like that's the part I struggle with. I can't imagine
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what the thinking was or the logic behind all this.
That's weird. I would say that you want hundred percent
if anybody was remotely close to the scenario that they
would not Has he been cleared? They said he's been cleared, No, charges, know,
anything like that. That's a that's a tough that's a
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tough position for a coach to be because if they've
if they've gone through the whole legal investigation and and
there's nothing that's come out come back on them, then
I mean, you I'd assume you have to move on
because now that becomes a liability to that coach and
to that school, from that family, if if they were
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to treat him differently when by the letter of the
law they said that he's not you know, he's not
responsible for anything that took place. So I just you know,
for me, that's that's a tough one. But I think
it's kind of clear cut to me if if legally
the law said this person is not being charged, they're
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not a person of interest, they weren't an accomplished accessory,
whatever you want to call it. They're cleared of the investigation.
And I think that that's kind of a book closed.
If you ask me, was he suspended or at least
like removed from the team for a time, that's the
part that I'm you know, the legal system has to
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do its part, but you would think that he's not
out there practicing and playing and doing all of that,
Why the investigations going on? It just that that doesn't
strike me as it's right. Yeah, I would agree with
that certainly prior to him being cleared. Yeah, certainly you
got to sit him down until you know what what's
going on. Like that basically says you're placing an importance
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on I mean, this is my interpretation, you're placing more
of an importance on winning. Then you are having a
moral compass in terms of, you know, the the welfare
well being of not only your team, but what you
represent philosophically, who you are as a person, what you represent.
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You know, he should have been sitting until they got
to the conclusion of what I just said. So I
agree with you there. And you also got people that
are calling for NATO's job based on his comments yesterday.
They think he should be gone. They think somebody at
the university should be fired. If they had any sort
of inkling that there was this level of involvement, Why
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is he still playing? Why Why was he not told
to stay away from the team until this thing cleared up.
It just it's kind of a dicey situation because if
he's been cleared and they've talked to him. I don't
know how you can punish him if he wasn't punished legally.
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And it feels like like that's the part that I'm
just struggling with because I find it hard to believe
that they would interview him and talk to him and
do their due diligence on this and have this many
details attached to it and still just say, well, it's
pure coincidence. I mean, he was the one who gave
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the gun, but there was no law violator to no
law broken. I mean there's you know, he was asked
by Darius Miles, where's the heater or something along those lines.
He specifically gave him instructions where it would be, and
delivered the gun. Like that's the part that's strange about this,
and yet he still played and it wasn't until yesterday
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everybody said, wait a second, So this guy delivered the
murder weapon. His car was that close that he had
bullet holes in it, and he was spoken due and
nobody knew about it, and NATO it's is saying, well,
wrong place, wrong time, which is why he had to
go back afterwards and clarify his comments because of all
the pushback he got. I don't know if it deserves
somebody losing their job for it, but it does feel
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like there's something missing here, There's something in the process
that doesn't control other people's actions. And again, I think
it's it's very to me, it's very black and white
in a situation like this from the standpoint of if
something horribly bad like this took place and any one
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of your players had any type of involvement some way
somehow where they're being investigated, you got to sit down
until this process plays out. Once the process plays out,
then you have a conversation with your university, the officials,
like this isn't even to be honest with you, the
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smallest part of it is sitting that player out, because
the bigger conversation is the university being involved because of
what that what the implications of these people being a
part of your university represents, was the young lady where
the people that were in the car where they I mean,
is that that information can't come out that they were
a part of the university. Like I mean, there's just
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so many different moving parts in the black and white
part of it that I'm talking about is until the
university and the officials legal you know, presidents, whoever gets
involved in terms of there are proto calls that are
put in place to safeguard and make sure that the
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university is in compliant in terms of how they investigate
and approach when acts such as this take place. You know,
I could apply it to when I was, you know,
doing all of my homework and being a part of
everything that took place at Penn State. There's so many
different things legally, and protocol was and protocols was the
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word that just continued to come up that was connected
to the school. So to me, this isn't really even
up for debate that young man should have been sitting
out or anyone who was involved. There could have been
a person that was in the car that had absolutely
literally nothing to do with what was taking place, and
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they would still have to sit out until everything panned
out and cleared out. Once you get to the point
of where everything has been investigated, this is the conclusion
that you know, the people investigating it have come to.
This person is cleared. This person isn't. Those people that
are clear are clear unless something changes. And then once
if something changes, if new information surfaces, then you reapply
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and you start the whole entire process all over again.
I think that's pretty pretty cut and dry, pretty black
and white, if you ask me. That's why some people
are calling for his job. Some pople were saying, you know,
heads have to roll here, somebody's got to be held
accountable if somebody knew what was happening or knew these details,
the fact that he was still allowed to play and
we just moved on as if all right before. But
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Brady makes the best point in terms of before the
conclusion was made that that young man didn't have anything
to do with it, or there's not something chargeable in
the scenario before, would be the reason why somebody, if
it's not the head coach, it's somebody that has to
be held accountable for them handling it because that's sloppy.
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That's handling it sloppily, and there's always the risk of
which I don't know why it matters so much of
the college, but at the pro level, you know, one
of the thoughts or concerns were was, excuse me, if
you if you basically punish a guy and nothing comes
from that, you potentially allow yourself to be able to
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be sued because of whatever moneys he was owed or
didn't get etc. I mean, sometimes that's part of the
thought process why they allow the legal process to play
itself out before they intervene. But in this case, you know,
that's why the commissioner's examplest was kind of the solution,
at least at the NFL level, where you could take
a player he's still being paid, so he can't be
blackmailed in any instance, but he's not playing, and they
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can figure out or sort out whatever the situation is.
In this case, that's where I'm a little bit confused.
Why Alabama would allow him to still be a part
of everything, Why this is all going on. I mean,
I would think for the sake of everyone involved, you'd
want to be able to clear this up before moving forward,
before allowing him to be a part of the team again.
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Plus if it comes out like this after the fact
and it's wait a second, you knew all this, and
still it just makes it look even worse, like why
even take the chance. You know, obviously it's gonna hurt
you know you in real time when it comes to
the season. But at this point, nobody's thinking about that.
Everybody's just looking at what a bad how bad the
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optics are for NATO. It's how bad the optics are
for the program in a really, really successful year. But
you've already got this in the background. Now you've got
you know, maybe your best player, a guy who's a
potential top five, top six pick in the NBA draft,
and his involvement to this level. It's the thing. The
whole thing is weird, just the way it was handled
from top to bottom. So we'll keep you posted on
the latest developments of that as well during the course
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It's like the doublin Ohio national anthem. It is yeah,
kind of well he's from here, so maybe it's your
your Neck of the Woods theme song. Nah, it's Dublin man,
I don't know. Man, could be thousand oaks, think so.
It would be bomped in big time. Who sings this thing?
(31:06):
It was us? You don't know it's bone thugs and harmony. Really,
were you being serious? Yeah, you aren't being serious. It
was to us. Yeah, I mean y'all didn't know Chocolate
City was Chocolate City, So I guess it is possible. Definitely.
You see that guy tweeted in He's like, hey, Lee
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That's when Brady has the good what he always gets
good yet all right, big time. You know, I'm gonna
go back to the Dunk Contest. I haven't watched for
a while. I saw mac McClung though. You know, one
of the things we filled the touch on is and
maybe why. I thought that was one of the best
performances ever. He hit on every single first try, every
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first trial of dunke he hit, which I think it
allows you to really take in, especially dunes that were unique,
which I would say at least two or three we
hadn't seen him before, and so it allows you to
take it in and go, what did I just see,
you know, not knowing that if he misses it, he's
going to go back and do it again. I just
thought that was an awesome performance. It brought a lot
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of buzz to the Dunk Contest because the actual game
itself was an absolute snooze fest, so so bad, so bad.
I also feel like it might bring up a little
attention to one of the better movies, which is White
Men Can't Chump. Great call. Yeah, I'm hoping that, you know,
maybe the younger generation is able to go back and
watch one of the all time greats. Are you trying
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to say way better Hopston Woody Harrelson though in the
movie Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Are you trying to say
that you would prefer an all white dunk contest? Bradies?
That are you trying to say and anything? I just said,
oh my glad to that. Okay. I was just wondering.
I wanted to be clear here because I thought some
people could misinterpret it that way. So where did any
of that? Yeah, you gotta be careful with that one.
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No cancel culture could come for us, all know, saying
like you said, white man, do I do not endorse that?
You know? She was joking. Second, I got a cuse
hit the button. I got a cue that I not
liking the Eric b enemy higher because he was black.
There we go, There we go. So this is unfair.
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I don't know, man, all right, I don't know. That
one was a little a little sketchy. Yeah, it's tab
is sketchy. But you can air me out like that.
Let's just get to ugly. Jonas knocks Brady Quinn. That
is certainly the ugly for me this week. It just
got real ugly. Just now, all white dunk contests? Is that? What? What?
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What you were implying. Yep, that's that's what I'm gonna
go with. That's my ug I had something else, but
good God, that's unfair. Not good. It's unfair. And guess
what that's racist? So I mean, yeah, what Yeah, I
just got jumped in line. All right. You are checking
off all of the boxes right now, just just mine,
(35:01):
just making sure you're aware of this from from my angle,
from my vantage point, you're checking off all of the
races boxes. Lee, who's got the bad? Well, we got
Brady's good. Look what you can't have good without the bad?
Jonas what was bad? I bet on six different drivers
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to win Daytona. Yeah you did. One finish fifth. The
others were nowhere to be found. Yeah, nowhere to be found.
Kyle Larson finished fifth? It did, was Kyle Larson or
Amarola or whatever, Alex Bowman whatever that was the other one.
I play six different wagers on drivers to win Daytona,
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and none of them won. And here's the problem. This
goes back to my three card poker rule. First time
I ever sat down to play three card poker in Vegas,
I hit three eights and I won three hundred dollars
and I thought, this is easy money. I'll do this
every time. I've never won since. First time I ever
bet Daytona, Denny Amlin won it and it was on
that real close finish, the photo finish, and I thought,
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this is easy. I'm gonna bet Daytona every year. I've
never won it since. And this year was the worst.
Six different drivers at five bucks apiece, basically taking three
ten dollar bills and wiping yourself with it and throwing
it in the toilet. It was a waste of money.
I did it again. I thought I had learned my
lesson from a really bad NFL season. Clearly not one
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week out of football season, and the trend continues. My
bad betting is the bad for the week. On this
week's edition of The Good Bad, the Ugly LEVARDI won
a second edition of Ugly this week. We could do
a second edition of Sam based Jonas again number one,
not even going to revisit it. Look, you checked off
another box. That's that's denial, ugly, more ugly, I would say.
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Heading into March's madness, the bracketology people are out there
in full, full steam, full force, First four in first
four out North Carolina. You know they're being looked at
as the biggest underachiever so far UNC Tar Hills basketball,
you know, obviously fresh off of a really really fine
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season last year, are not being looked at in the
most favorable manner right now. Be interesting to see if
they could catch fire and do what they need to
do heading into March Madness. But I'm getting excited about,
you know, March Madness coming around. But for now, you know,
with such a blue blood, you know, tradition, storied program
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that's kind of ugly that they're not a little bit
better or being seen as as overachievers or being a
good team right now. Duke's not even ranked. It's crazy. Yeah,
they got no no, Shovski's disappointing. Are we just though
life out of them? Yeah? I mean Louisville's not good. Yeah,
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they're they're playing. Well. How's Kentucky doing you? I knew
you were going there. Yeah, it was going over Tennessee
Mane I's twice too, right. They swept in the show. Yeah,
they beat him on Saturdays. I think they might slide in.
They could be dangerous. You know, that could be one
of them things where it's like it looked bad for
Kyler Perry and then they pulled it together. Now, now
are you because you like to file down the toothbrush
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and stick it to the side of of your Kentucky
friends if you like to ship them a little art?
Now are they? Are they in response sending you text
messages when they beat number ten Tennessee like they did
on Saturday. No, I'm actually the one who told them
to try to bet the lineup to ten that I
thought Kentucky would win by more than ten. They're They're
getting two, So I can't wait for March Madness basketball. Yeah.
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So we do have some accountability here in the National
Football League. And it's Jonathan Gannon, the brand new head
coach of the Arizona Cardinals, who, in talking with Peter
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King the MMQB, he says that when it comes to
the play call that they couldn't stop at the end
zone or near the goal line against the Kansas City
Chiefs in the Super Bowl, he takes responsibility for it.
Didn't put his guys in position to make a play.
They were very upset about it, and so multiple times
they got burnt. Not that that was the only thing
(01:48):
that led to them losing the game, but nonetheless, Jonathan
Gannon owning up to some mistakes and taking some accountability
for what happened in that Super Bowl, and it's about
time and he better get used to it, because it's
not like what the team who's got a quarterback who
takes any accountability for anything now. So there's just that
just saying that's been kind of a problem with Kyler Murray.
A lot of pointing the finger and not necessarily the thumb,
(02:10):
and we've seen that play out on the sideline. So
Jonathan Gannon already getting some reps in there. What are
you saying? Is that standing tall and taking all the blame?
Come on, do that? What do you mean you and
your I thought you were better than that broad shoulder
stacks and jas standing tall six four two forty. I
mean it's talloked, that's Brady Quinn. He's gonna sit there.
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It's what yoke doney man, He's gonna sit here and
he's gonna, you know, talk trash about somebody who was
less fortunate. Questions. I thought I thought it was a
valid question. Yeah, I thought it was a valid comments.
He's all jacked. Okay, what else? Jack and what yoked?
(03:00):
Still got that ass pumping in? Now we're done? Yeah,
far Let me ask you this, when you saw the
second touchdown to Skymore in the game, and it was
the exact same play as when they first as the
one they threw Darius Tony h were you what were
you thinking? I was trying to see who was in coverage,
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but my first thought was why is there not a
corner out there? Waiting? It was why that's so? Yeah?
I was like, why is there not a corner? Like
when they were running the when they were running the
motion into the flare, I was like, Okay, that is
a compromise because you got a flare and you got
somebody in the flat, and and so you're you're splitting
(03:41):
the you're splitting the difference. But I still almost feel like,
all right, they had to saw something in the coverage
to start running it, because you should in theory, you
should have a corner out there in the flats that
can play the flat and the flare if they're in
his own and if and if it's man coverage, then
(04:01):
you should be ready prepared to switch. Right. You deliver
that that number, that receiver on the outside to the
next person, whether it's the safety or the linebacker, and
you get that back that's in the flat. You know,
but I think you know, I don't know. You gotta
account for the quarterback. Even though Pat Mahomes was Patrick
Mahomes was was not fully healthy in the game, he
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still showed he could run. So it creates a dilemma
when you have that quarterback that can be mobile for
the team. But I just was thinking, you you got
to switch the man and rid zone. You can't play
his own, and you gotta be ready to switch and
it looked like it was covered four and they were
pushing that backside safety because as soon as the outside
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receiver went to run like he's running across and the
corner bumped down and then the safety was running hard
to get to the other side. Whether it was gonna
be a three wide receiver set at one sky more
Kadarius Tony, you know, either one ended up returning back out.
There was just no one out there. It was just
wide open. It was. It didn't look good. That's I
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certainly will say like if if it happens once, I
could see it. But they ran it like several several times,
maybe more, and it was it was pretty much open.
By the way, the name of that place is called
corn Dogs. Were familiar with that. That's what it's called
corn Dog. Is that? But is that like shots and explosives?
Is that kind of like? I mean, you know, and
(05:30):
they got that coming to him right? Who did he
do a interview where he said that talking to rond Moore?
Oh that's all you know, Jonathan Gannon talking to Rondel Moore. Yeah,
that was really weird man, Like I presh of it. Yeah,
zip zip, Like that's really what he what he said
(05:50):
to him, Like if you watch the video, he sees
Ron del Moore and he gets excited and he shakes
his hand, and there was no hey man, shots explosives
like I love to know when Rod del Boor was
thinking of that moment, Like, I'm glad he knows who
I am, But what are you doing? Dude? He's thinking
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like video game arcade noises what he's talking to him? Shot,
It's supposed to be fun, So there you go. You know,
we were talking earlier about like relationships between players and
coaches and stuff like that, and how you know, maybe
you know, a coach may not get along with another,
you know, get along with a player. You know, sometimes
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it's a necessary at least old school wise, it's a
necessary evil to have good cops and bad cops. You know,
I guess that's not even a great great term anymore,
you know where we're at in society. But sometimes it's
had the good good person and the bad person, right
and and and some people are really really like you
heard him say, he's a player coach. You know, it's
(06:55):
it's basically saying that they're far and few in between
where you have a layer coach like coaches aren't friendly
to players more like a parent situation, like I'm not
here to be your friend. I'm here to be your parent,
Like I'm not here to be your guy, you know,
I'm here to be your coach. So I don't know,
Like and that's interesting, you like when when when those
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conversations come up, do you find yourself like kind of
thinking about, like, well, what is a relationship supposed to
actually entail between a player and a coach? Like that,
there's nothing that says that a coach and a player
have to be on friendly terms, you know, Like you
have a job, y'all both have a job to do,
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you know what you think? I mean, I always subscribe
to like I didn't need you to give me a compliment.
You know, I kind of always adhered to coaching where
if I was doing what I was doing, you just
leave me alone. If I'm not doing something right, let
me know you let me hear about it. But that
was how I always appreciated coaching. Like I always hated,
you know, someone coming over and feeling like they needed
(07:59):
to give me a comple that before they said something critical.
It's like, you don't need to do that, Just tell
me what I need to improve upon, How can I
get better? Give me the truth? And I think in
that case, you know, any relationship with a player coach,
I just wanted to be genuine. I don't have any
problem if Jonathan Gannon is naturally like that. You know,
if he's kind of a quirky dude, and you know
he's he's more high energy and he's gonna relate to
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players in that way, it's cool. I mean, it's different.
I mean and also like, I'll never forget there was
a coach and I used to ask him. I was like,
you know, I was like, what's your recruiting technique? And
he goes. What I try to do is find a
way of standing out from everyone else that comes into
school and comes into like visit with kids, and he goes.
So I usually try to take them, say, hey, do
(08:42):
you want to go out and sit on the bleachers?
Do you want to go out and walk on the
football field? Like his whole thing was he just wanted
to do something that separated him from everyone else. And
even though it might feel odd, it might be quirky,
it might be unique or different. As long as it
was something that stood out, it ended up being more
of I guess it was a better relationship, or at
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least it was something that differentiated them from everyone else.
And so I don't have any problem if you're a
quirky guy, that's how you coach, and that's how you communicate.
But I just hope it's genuine, like you don't need
to be someone you're not. I think the NFL locker
rooms sniffed that out in a harpiet Yeah they do.
I think that's a good point. I mean for me,
I know, I grew up old school, so I had
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from Peewee League on up, I would always have coaches
that were like very animated, Like I always associated animated
characters to coaches, like almost like cartoon characters where you
diet it get there hell like, like that's what I
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got used to. Like. I recall one of my first
memories of a coach was Coach Bellas. No he ain't
here no more, all right, got rest in peace, Coach Bellas.
But I said when I was first first memories bro
likely I'm old Jonas um he coached Coincidentally, he coached
(10:06):
the Westview Redskins that no longer able to say that name.
The Westview was so that it was the youth organization
I played in and Westview, Yeah, so all I could remember. Yeah,
my first coach was coach Klinger. He's gone to God,
ain't what he's gone, man, right now? No, but he's
(10:29):
gone to But but I remember bringing up to Jonas
and I always people are dead down. Yeah right, dang.
Any relation to David Clinger, No, No, any relation to
Boss Hog maybe maybe, but maybe not anyway, couch together
right now. Yeah, they are about to take him out,
you know, for a walk. Um. I just remember how
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loud coach Bellis was and I was like, man, next year,
I have to go play for him. And this is
like I'm being introduced to football, and it's like we
had a loud coach on on the first team the Braves,
Um coach Barry. He was loud, but he was I
think he's still here. Uh yeah, I think he's still here. Uh.
(11:14):
But it just to me, you start to get acclimated
as to what that's supposed to feel. Why y'all messing
with me out just trying to give a point about
coaches and coaching is like I just always always wondered
at at certain points in time, like when I got
to high school, I never questioned, like once I got
(11:37):
acclimated in you, I never really questioned coaching. It just
was coaching is coaching. And however, your coach is Our
de coordinator was way more animated. Our offensive coordinator was
very low key cool calm. Our head coach was real cool.
He was you know, he was calm. Then I got
to college and it was like dang, like like it
(11:58):
just it made you. It made me start questioning, like
what is your relationship supposed to be with your coach?
And then once I got to the league, it was
kind of like, well, you tell me what I need
to do. There doesn't even need to really be relationships.
You just tell me what my job is and I'll
do my job. I just always like just listening to
(12:19):
like what Shady had to say, you know, about the
coaching situation, it just made me wonder like, like is
that even still a conversation about coaching? And then now
you know, talking about the sound effects and doing that,
is that even still a thing? Like coaching player relationship
is not a thing. Do you guys think that because
you grew up with in military families that you had
(12:42):
it like your baseline was respect authority and that you
carry that through your entire football probably, yeah, probably. So
I had to get up at a certain time every day.
I had to make sure that my bid was made
a certain way every day, like the way my it was,
the the you know, the cover on it, the comforter
(13:03):
on it. It had to be like it what was
two inches or something away from the floor, like I
had to be able to put two fingers under it,
like that type stuff. I had to vacuum my room
every morning, like I had. I had a very very
structured like way of growing up and and and I
don't know, maybe it was I was used to being.
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I mean, I was never really handled in a way
by my parents that was like a coach like when
I played. But I mean I definitely had structure, and
I didn't like it either. By the way, I didn't
like to have to get up. Like if if we
didn't get up for a certain amount of time, my
mom would actually come down the hallway with a pot
(13:44):
and and a a like a a Scooper or whatever,
a spoon. She'd be banging that bad boy boom boom boom,
boom boom. You gotta get up, you gotta get up,
and it'd be early. My mom was early riser. So
it was just like you start to get the you
(14:04):
don't sleep in college, like when you start playing football
in college, you don't even sleep. So I started learning
the ways of like the culture early on in life.
I don't even know how we got off on this tangent,
but zoom. I just yeah, there you go to sound
effects zoom zoom suon and it won and it worked,
(14:26):
and it worked. It was the difference in the game.
Right one more time explosives zoom. I do I do
have to call you out on this though, Q you
know you do? You do get upset at Jonas when
he does that to you. You know, what do you mean?
You know I'm late for tire Ac. I'm not going
to do it on a well. He knows I'll do it.
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I shall do it. When I am ready to do it.
I'm his wind up to all. Do it one more time,
do it one more time. Zoom zoo, zoo zoom. What
I love most is Jonas looks awkward when he does
stuff like this. I was sitting there looking at I
look awkward, look at Jonathan Gannon and tell me he
looks more awkward me or him were natural doing it.
(15:08):
I was kind of like, that's just as he didn't
have a microphone on it. Are you try you trying
to say? Are you trying to say Jonathan Gannon can
out zoom me? Is though you're trying to say he can?
The originator a bunch of crap. Man guarantee I could
beat him. All right. It is Two Pros and a
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That in a little over twenty minutes from now from
the tirac dot com studios. It's a little weird, right
Zoom zoom, explosives, shots shops, zoom zoom, zoom zoom. It's quirky,
a little weird, all right. So from that we transition
(16:36):
smoothly over to this. So the situation at Alabama with
the basketball team, my god, let's have a bit aggressive man.
So this is this goes back to Darius Miles, one
of the players on the team, who was arrested. He
and another man last month killed a woman, shot and
killed a woman in Tuscaloosa, fired shots into a car.
(17:00):
She was sitting at in the car with another gentleman
who fired back, but she was killed. She's a mother.
It's a terrible situations, obviously a tragedy. Darius Miles was arrested,
so as this other man who apparently did the shooting.
They were both in the car, and so that's been
sort of in the background of Alabama, who's had a
really good season. I believe number two in the country
(17:21):
right now, if I'm not mistaken, like a really good team,
a team that a lot of people look at, is
being able to make a deep run in the tournament. Well,
apparently some new developments and new details have come out.
Brandon Miller, who's one of the star players on the team,
one of the best players in college basketball, projected lottery
pick freshman. Apparently he provided the gun that was used
(17:46):
in the murder, and there's text message evidence that Darius
Miles reached out to him to ask for the gun,
he delivered the gun to him, and then furthermore, his
car and a car of another teammate were on the
road blocking the vehicle that was shot into from getting away.
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But they the DA when asked about why Brandon Miller
wasn't charged with anything, they said, there's nothing we can do.
There's nothing we can charge him with. It feels like
there's something you could charge him with. Nobody knew before
yesterday what was actually happening. I would assume that's an accomplice,
an accessory to murder or something. I don't think that's
(18:29):
an accessory. You were an accomplice. I mean, that's where
I come from. That's called accomplice. Well, Natots, the head
coach of Alabama, spoke about the situation yesterday and he
had to clarify his comments after this statement. Here was
the Alabama head coach. We knew about that. I mean,
you know, you can't control everything anybody does outside of practice.
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Nobody knew that was going to happen. College kids are out.
Brandon hasn't been in any type of trouble, nor is
he in any type of trouble on this case, like
the wrong spot at the wrong time. So that was
a little bit of what his press conference. Let me
ask you guys this, let me ask you this, and
gathering that information in terms of if he's an accomplice
(19:13):
or not. Are is the source reliable in terms of
saying that the cars were helping block the other car
from getting out, yes, Now, whether it was helping or
just coincidentally there they don't have evidence of that, Well,
then that's a little different in context, that's a little different.
But his car did have bullet holes in it, and
(19:34):
that was stuff that wasn't privy to the media and
nobody knew about until yesterday when this report from al
dot com came out. And the part that I find
odd about it all is he was spoken like they
spoke to him a couple of different times from my understanding,
and that's why they didn't charge him with anything. And
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so people are outraged that a, you know, Natoates came
off off as being sort of dismissive a little bit
of the whole situation. But also why is he even
allowed to be playing basketball if he's got this level
of involvement in this situation? And that's the part I
struggle with because I don't know, There's got to be
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something else out there, because I can't imagine if all
of this was available to the program, to the university,
to the coach, that you would still just let him
play without thinking any of this stuff would eventually come
out and it would be a bad look for everybody involved.
Like that's the part I struggle with. I can't imagine
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what the thinking was or the logic behind all this.
That's weird. I would say that you want hundred percent
if anybody was remotely close to the scenario that they
would not Has he been cleared? They said he's been cleared, No, charges, know,
anything like that. That's a that's a tough that's a
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tough position for a coach to be because if they've
if they've gone through the whole legal investigation and and
there's nothing that's come out come back on them, then
I mean, you I'd assume you have to move on
because now that becomes a liability to that coach and
to that school, from that family, if if they were
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to treat him differently when by the letter of the
law they said that he's not you know, he's not
responsible for anything that took place. So I just you know,
for me, that's that's a tough one. But I think
it's kind of clear cut to me if if legally
the law said this person is not being charged, they're
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not a person of interest, they weren't an accomplished accessory,
whatever you want to call it. They're cleared of the investigation.
And I think that that's kind of a book closed.
If you ask me, was he suspended or at least
like removed from the team for a time, that's the
part that I'm you know, the legal system has to
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do its part, but you would think that he's not
out there practicing and playing and doing all of that,
Why the investigations going on? It just that that doesn't
strike me as it's right. Yeah, I would agree with
that certainly prior to him being cleared. Yeah, certainly you
got to sit him down until you know what what's
going on. Like that basically says you're placing an importance
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on I mean, this is my interpretation, you're placing more
of an importance on winning. Then you are having a
moral compass in terms of, you know, the the welfare
well being of not only your team, but what you
represent philosophically, who you are as a person, what you represent.
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You know, he should have been sitting until they got
to the conclusion of what I just said. So I
agree with you there. And you also got people that
are calling for NATO's job based on his comments yesterday.
They think he should be gone. They think somebody at
the university should be fired. If they had any sort
of inkling that there was this level of involvement, Why
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is he still playing? Why Why was he not told
to stay away from the team until this thing cleared up.
It just it's kind of a dicey situation because if
he's been cleared and they've talked to him. I don't
know how you can punish him if he wasn't punished legally.
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And it feels like like that's the part that I'm
just struggling with because I find it hard to believe
that they would interview him and talk to him and
do their due diligence on this and have this many
details attached to it and still just say, well, it's
pure coincidence. I mean, he was the one who gave
(23:48):
the gun, but there was no law violator to no
law broken. I mean there's you know, he was asked
by Darius Miles, where's the heater or something along those lines.
He specifically gave him instructions where it would be, and
delivered the gun. Like that's the part that's strange about this,
and yet he still played and it wasn't until yesterday
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everybody said, wait a second, So this guy delivered the
murder weapon. His car was that close that he had
bullet holes in it, and he was spoken due and
nobody knew about it, and NATO it's is saying, well,
wrong place, wrong time, which is why he had to
go back afterwards and clarify his comments because of all
the pushback he got. I don't know if it deserves
somebody losing their job for it, but it does feel
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like there's something missing here, There's something in the process
that doesn't control other people's actions. And again, I think
it's it's very to me, it's very black and white
in a situation like this from the standpoint of if
something horribly bad like this took place and any one
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of your players had any type of involvement some way
somehow where they're being investigated, you got to sit down
until this process plays out. Once the process plays out,
then you have a conversation with your university, the officials,
like this isn't even to be honest with you, the
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smallest part of it is sitting that player out, because
the bigger conversation is the university being involved because of
what that what the implications of these people being a
part of your university represents, was the young lady where
the people that were in the car where they I mean,
is that that information can't come out that they were
a part of the university. Like I mean, there's just
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so many different moving parts in the black and white
part of it that I'm talking about is until the
university and the officials legal you know, presidents, whoever gets
involved in terms of there are proto calls that are
put in place to safeguard and make sure that the
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university is in compliant in terms of how they investigate
and approach when acts such as this take place. You know,
I could apply it to when I was, you know,
doing all of my homework and being a part of
everything that took place at Penn State. There's so many
different things legally, and protocol was and protocols was the
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word that just continued to come up that was connected
to the school. So to me, this isn't really even
up for debate that young man should have been sitting
out or anyone who was involved. There could have been
a person that was in the car that had absolutely
literally nothing to do with what was taking place, and
(26:44):
they would still have to sit out until everything panned
out and cleared out. Once you get to the point
of where everything has been investigated, this is the conclusion
that you know, the people investigating it have come to.
This person is cleared. This person isn't. Those people that
are clear are clear unless something changes. And then once
if something changes, if new information surfaces, then you reapply
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and you start the whole entire process all over again.
I think that's pretty pretty cut and dry, pretty black
and white, if you ask me. That's why some people
are calling for his job. Some pople were saying, you know,
heads have to roll here, somebody's got to be held
accountable if somebody knew what was happening or knew these details,
the fact that he was still allowed to play and
we just moved on as if all right before. But
(27:31):
Brady makes the best point in terms of before the
conclusion was made that that young man didn't have anything
to do with it, or there's not something chargeable in
the scenario before, would be the reason why somebody, if
it's not the head coach, it's somebody that has to
be held accountable for them handling it because that's sloppy.
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That's handling it sloppily, and there's always the risk of
which I don't know why it matters so much of
the college, but at the pro level, you know, one
of the thoughts or concerns were was, excuse me, if
you if you basically punish a guy and nothing comes
from that, you potentially allow yourself to be able to
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be sued because of whatever moneys he was owed or
didn't get etc. I mean, sometimes that's part of the
thought process why they allow the legal process to play
itself out before they intervene. But in this case, you know,
that's why the commissioner's examplest was kind of the solution,
at least at the NFL level, where you could take
a player he's still being paid, so he can't be
blackmailed in any instance, but he's not playing, and they
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can figure out or sort out whatever the situation is.
In this case, that's where I'm a little bit confused.
Why Alabama would allow him to still be a part
of everything, Why this is all going on. I mean,
I would think for the sake of everyone involved, you'd
want to be able to clear this up before moving forward,
before allowing him to be a part of the team again.
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Plus if it comes out like this after the fact
and it's wait a second, you knew all this, and
still it just makes it look even worse, like why
even take the chance. You know, obviously it's gonna hurt
you know you in real time when it comes to
the season. But at this point, nobody's thinking about that.
Everybody's just looking at what a bad how bad the
(29:18):
optics are for NATO. It's how bad the optics are
for the program in a really, really successful year. But
you've already got this in the background. Now you've got
you know, maybe your best player, a guy who's a
potential top five, top six pick in the NBA draft,
and his involvement to this level. It's the thing. The
whole thing is weird, just the way it was handled
from top to bottom. So we'll keep you posted on
the latest developments of that as well during the course
(29:40):
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It's like the doublin Ohio national anthem. It is yeah,
kind of well he's from here, so maybe it's your
your Neck of the Woods theme song. Nah, it's Dublin man,
I don't know. Man, could be thousand oaks, think so.
It would be bomped in big time. Who sings this thing?
(31:06):
It was us? You don't know it's bone thugs and harmony. Really,
were you being serious? Yeah, you aren't being serious. It
was to us. Yeah, I mean y'all didn't know Chocolate
City was Chocolate City, So I guess it is possible. Definitely.
You see that guy tweeted in He's like, hey, Lee
(31:27):
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all right, lead a lap, who's got what this week?
This is how you know it's a really really good week.
(32:31):
That's when Brady has the good what he always gets
good yet all right, big time. You know, I'm gonna
go back to the Dunk Contest. I haven't watched for
a while. I saw mac McClung though. You know, one
of the things we filled the touch on is and
maybe why. I thought that was one of the best
performances ever. He hit on every single first try, every
(32:53):
first trial of dunke he hit, which I think it
allows you to really take in, especially dunes that were unique,
which I would say at least two or three we
hadn't seen him before, and so it allows you to
take it in and go, what did I just see,
you know, not knowing that if he misses it, he's
going to go back and do it again. I just
thought that was an awesome performance. It brought a lot
(33:14):
of buzz to the Dunk Contest because the actual game
itself was an absolute snooze fest, so so bad, so bad.
I also feel like it might bring up a little
attention to one of the better movies, which is White
Men Can't Chump. Great call. Yeah, I'm hoping that, you know,
maybe the younger generation is able to go back and
watch one of the all time greats. Are you trying
(33:35):
to say way better Hopston Woody Harrelson though in the
movie Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Are you trying to say
that you would prefer an all white dunk contest? Bradies?
That are you trying to say and anything? I just said,
oh my glad to that. Okay. I was just wondering.
I wanted to be clear here because I thought some
people could misinterpret it that way. So where did any
of that? Yeah, you gotta be careful with that one.
(33:57):
No cancel culture could come for us, all know, saying
like you said, white man, do I do not endorse that?
You know? She was joking. Second, I got a cuse
hit the button. I got a cue that I not
liking the Eric b enemy higher because he was black.
There we go, There we go. So this is unfair.
(34:19):
I don't know, man, all right, I don't know. That
one was a little a little sketchy. Yeah, it's tab
is sketchy. But you can air me out like that.
Let's just get to ugly. Jonas knocks Brady Quinn. That
is certainly the ugly for me this week. It just
got real ugly. Just now, all white dunk contests? Is that? What? What?
(34:39):
What you were implying. Yep, that's that's what I'm gonna
go with. That's my ug I had something else, but
good God, that's unfair. Not good. It's unfair. And guess
what that's racist? So I mean, yeah, what Yeah, I
just got jumped in line. All right. You are checking
off all of the boxes right now, just just mine,
(35:01):
just making sure you're aware of this from from my angle,
from my vantage point, you're checking off all of the
races boxes. Lee, who's got the bad? Well, we got
Brady's good. Look what you can't have good without the bad?
Jonas what was bad? I bet on six different drivers
(35:22):
to win Daytona. Yeah you did. One finish fifth. The
others were nowhere to be found. Yeah, nowhere to be found.
Kyle Larson finished fifth? It did, was Kyle Larson or
Amarola or whatever, Alex Bowman whatever that was the other one.
I play six different wagers on drivers to win Daytona,
(35:43):
and none of them won. And here's the problem. This
goes back to my three card poker rule. First time
I ever sat down to play three card poker in Vegas,
I hit three eights and I won three hundred dollars
and I thought, this is easy money. I'll do this
every time. I've never won since. First time I ever
bet Daytona, Denny Amlin won it and it was on
that real close finish, the photo finish, and I thought,
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this is easy. I'm gonna bet Daytona every year. I've
never won it since. And this year was the worst.
Six different drivers at five bucks apiece, basically taking three
ten dollar bills and wiping yourself with it and throwing
it in the toilet. It was a waste of money.
I did it again. I thought I had learned my
lesson from a really bad NFL season. Clearly not one
(36:27):
week out of football season, and the trend continues. My
bad betting is the bad for the week. On this
week's edition of The Good Bad, the Ugly LEVARDI won
a second edition of Ugly this week. We could do
a second edition of Sam based Jonas again number one,
not even going to revisit it. Look, you checked off
another box. That's that's denial, ugly, more ugly, I would say.
(36:53):
Heading into March's madness, the bracketology people are out there
in full, full steam, full force, First four in first
four out North Carolina. You know they're being looked at
as the biggest underachiever so far UNC Tar Hills basketball,
you know, obviously fresh off of a really really fine
(37:16):
season last year, are not being looked at in the
most favorable manner right now. Be interesting to see if
they could catch fire and do what they need to
do heading into March Madness. But I'm getting excited about,
you know, March Madness coming around. But for now, you know,
with such a blue blood, you know, tradition, storied program
(37:40):
that's kind of ugly that they're not a little bit
better or being seen as as overachievers or being a
good team right now. Duke's not even ranked. It's crazy. Yeah,
they got no no, Shovski's disappointing. Are we just though
life out of them? Yeah? I mean Louisville's not good. Yeah,
(38:00):
they're they're playing. Well. How's Kentucky doing you? I knew
you were going there. Yeah, it was going over Tennessee
Mane I's twice too, right. They swept in the show. Yeah,
they beat him on Saturdays. I think they might slide in.
They could be dangerous. You know, that could be one
of them things where it's like it looked bad for
Kyler Perry and then they pulled it together. Now, now
are you because you like to file down the toothbrush
(38:23):
and stick it to the side of of your Kentucky
friends if you like to ship them a little art?
Now are they? Are they in response sending you text
messages when they beat number ten Tennessee like they did
on Saturday. No, I'm actually the one who told them
to try to bet the lineup to ten that I
thought Kentucky would win by more than ten. They're They're
getting two, So I can't wait for March Madness basketball. Yeah.
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