April 26, 2023 • 39 mins
Joe Burrow and Justin Jefferson have their 5th year options exercised. It’s the end of an era with franchise QB’s sticking with one team for their entire career. Another Draft Edition of “Over/Under’s” and “The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.”
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A couple of moves were made in the NFL yesterday
two of the best players at their position, Justin Jefferson.
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He got himself his fifth year option picked up by
the Minnesota Vikings, not a surprise. Also not a surprise,
Joe Burrow received his fifth year option as well too.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Well, sorry, who is that? Berto?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
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Speaker 6 (03:01):
Boo?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Sounds so good on a fresh mic, sounds so good.
But Joe Burrow, justin Jefferson fifth year options have been
picked up. Tu A Takobailoa also from the twenty twenty
draft classes, fifth year option has been picked up. And
so now we wait and see, especially at quarterback following
the signing of Jalen Hurtz, what that contract's going to
look like for those Cincinnati Bengals who have a brand
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new stadium sponsor, which I'm sure has nothing to do
Brady Quinn with the fact that Joe Burrow's got a
monster contract coming up soon.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Yeah, I mean this is part of the process, right,
You pick up the fifth year option, you get them
under control for the next a couple of years. You
obviously have the franchise tags as projecting what the first
you know, I guess you'd say four years of that
would look like for an extension if you're to get
one done this offseason. But I'll keep saying that the
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sooner the better for the Cincinati Bengals. The price tag
is only going to go up. We know that, and
that's an organization. This isn't according to me, this is
Forbes last year valued them as the least valued franchise
in the NFL. So they've got to come up with
a way of finding a bunch of cash that they
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can stow away for those big guarantees that Joe Burrow
is going to want, and rightfully so, you know, I
think most organizations would say, if you're not building your
organization around Patch Mahomes, next up's probably Joe Burrow, if
not Josh Allen and how you're looking at your team
or franchise.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
So he's gonna get a big payday. The structure is
going to be interesting.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
I keep feeling and thinking it's going to be at
least a five year extension, you know, so it could
get reported as a seven year deal even though he's
got a couple of years left on his deal. But
I would say somewhere between a five to maybe even seven,
so they could spread this thing out, even though I
don't think Joe Burrow and his representatives want that long
term of a deal because they're going to want to
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have the ability to come back to the negotiation table
for another big butte at the Apple, and so I
would think if they get one done relatively soon, it'll
be around a five year extension on the on the
two years that I think he's got left on his
his rookie deal.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm just my whole thing is when do teams get
to a point where they can't afford players, Like when
is it with the with.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
The ESCO rule and how much they've got to have
an escro due to the amount of guarantees in a contract.
It's getting there now. There's two frames of thought with that.
Owners will use it as an excuse to not push
it put as many guarantees at signing for that very reason,
or eventually some of the owners who have much deeper
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pockets are going to say yeah, or even some of
the ones that don't they'll eventually say when we come
around to the next collective bartning agreement, they'll say, we
want to get rid of this, or we want to
we want to look at this again because we feel like,
you know, we're putt at a big time disadvantage because
we don't have the deep pockets that some of you
other owners do, and you've got more cash to be
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able to throw around. I mean, look at obviously the
way Stan Cromkey handled things with the Rams, with the
theory of cash over cap. When you're dolling out these
huge signing bonuses that you can spread throughout the life
of a contract and put on some avoidable dummy years,
and you have to have the cash in order to
be able to do that, as opposed to, you know,
structuring that within the salary cap your typical way of
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doing it. So that's that's got to be the route
that this thing goes. Because of the guarantees and how
big they're.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Getting, it feels like Cincinnati's got a pretty important year
coming up for him because until you pay Joe Burrow,
you've still got obviously Jamar Chase t Higgins is there.
It feels like, after you make the decision and the
commitment for Joe Burrow, how the hell are you going
to be able to pay everybody else or at least
some of these other stars like Jamar Chase. Feels like
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that's the guy that you want to keep around based
on how how good those guys have been together all
the way going back to college. But also Tahiggins, Like,
there's been some rumblings this offseason about what to do
with T Higgins. I believe they either franchised him or
he's going to be there another year. But the feeling
is they'd like to keep t Higgins as well too,
but you can't afford everybody. It feels like this next
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season is really an important season for the Bengals if
they want to get over the hump and try and
win a Super Bowl. Which is why losing that Super
Bowl to the Rams you look back on and go, damn,
you lost Odell Beckham junior. They were leading in that
game late, had an opportunity, and then Cooper Cup did
what Cooper Cup does in those games.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And it just.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Feels like after last year close lost to Kansas City,
next year could really be the year if they're going
to make a jump and win that Super Bowl, next
year should be the year. That's what it feels like
to me. I don't know if I'm betting money on it,
but that's what it feels like to me as far
as Cincinnati goes.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
You know, us thinking too, this is completely off topic,
but we kind of missed this and talking about whole
Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets. One of the articles
that kind of popped up was talking about how Dak
Prescott's now the longest current tenured quarterback with his team.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, and I think we've seen.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
The end of an era in regards to how long
quarterbacks play.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
With those franchises. I just don't think you're going to
see that very much.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
I mean, Patrick Mahomes, maybe you look at him, you say, Okay,
he's got a chance because he chose to science such
a long term deal.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
It's a great setup.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
But if Andy Reid's not there and he might not
feel confident in who they bring in, depending on who
that may be, you got to wonder if they don't
start to look.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
At going elsewhere.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
You know a lot of these guys who are younger
quarterbacks kind of born into a league. Now that's seen
Aaron Rodgers go from Green Bay after being there what eighteen.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Years or long under that ever was, and move on
to the Jets.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
They've watched Tom Brady move on from New England to
go to the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
Russell Wilson as well, he's not I mean, he's more
of a contemporary than when an old school guys, but
not to get into separate conversation. But when you look
at it, you go, yeah, this is probably the end
of an era of seeing players stay for one long
period of time with one team. And I'm not gonna
say like the NBA had an impact on it, because
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players have always eventually gone on moved to another team.
But even the NBA to a degree, I think a
lot of players it's very rare for you to see
them want to stay in one place like Damian Low
would stand in Portland.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It's just it's rare to see that.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
You know, you see most star players want to join
up or team up with other guys or move around
to different spots.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
And I think you're seeing that now in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
And maybe that's a byproduct of the player, but some
of it maybe too, just the fact that the quarterback
is evaluated so fast on his rookie deal that they
move on one way or another from a guy, and
even if you know so if things are working out,
they extend them. But then he might get to a
point where he's like, all right, they're not paying me
enough or not giving me what I need.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I need to go.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Somewhere else, and if you know, he plays early and
it doesn't work out, there's no patience, so they'll just
move on drafting X guy.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
It's it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I just I've always found the curious why is it
set up Why are the rules set up in such
a way where like, all right, let's let's like go
back to pre free agency, like you were able to
have dynasty football teams because you didn't have free agency.
I just wonder, why are the rules set up in
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a way where you can't you know, or where you
can compensate your team and keep your your team together.
Like I know, I know that might sound crazy, but
it's like it's almost like it's set up for the
economics to keep teams out of whack. And I know
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that's like an entertainment value, but sometimes, you know, to me,
the business of sports is an overblown it's an overblown
aspect of the sport and the game itself. And sometimes
for me, I hate that the business of it bleeds
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into the actual this is the game. And because there's
always this conversation and it's almost like if we could create,
if there was a way to create a kind of
like what the standard is or what.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
The structured standard.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Is that you can actually put teams together and keep
them together instead of it being a culture that's it's
been created where you're chasing that dollar because I mean,
at some point it's like I think about business in
the real world like I've I've been I've been a
part of media for quite some time, and one of
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the things that you have.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
To be aware of in what you do in media.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Is not pricing yourself out. You know, if you're you're
good or not. You know, if you're good enough to
be in certain positions. But it's still like the conversation
of even though you know you're good at what you
do and what you bring to the table, you can't
price yourself out because if you do that company can't
afford you next thing. One thing leads to another, you're
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not there anymore. Somebody else has to come in, whatever
it may be. That doesn't really exist so much, at
least for the elites and pro sports. It doesn't really
that doesn't really exist like pricing yourself out, like I
guess some guys can. I guess Lamar's action is in
that situation right now.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But isn't that part of the secret to I guess
one of the secrets to the Patriots' success was Tom
Brady never really priced himself out, so they can yep
around them.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
But and that's one way of looking at it, but
it shouldn't be I mean, that's looking from.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
The players perspective.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
The interesting point that you bring up, LeVar is the
players fought for free agency, right, They fought for the
ability to earn more in the top you know, one
two percent, to earn more, which it essentially has led to,
you know, free agency, which is made it harder to
keep teams together because of always the threat of going
to the free agency market and seeing what your market
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value is. And so that was something that was pushed
heavily and sacrificed heavily by by you know, prior players.
It wasn't necessarily that the owners didn't want to keep
a hell, it was the owners would.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Have loved it.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
And I think from the players standpoint, what would have
helped was I mean I remember talking to old dudes
who they're like, yeah, yeah, we played you know, ten, twelve,
fourteen years and You're like that's incredible.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
They're like, yeah, I did it with like one or
two teams and you're like, Wow, Usually you don't see
that very often.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
And it was because when they drafted a player, they
invested into them. You know, they knew it was a
developmental sport and it I mean, maybe it wasn't set
up quite the same way as now, but a lot
of those older guys had more of an opportunity to
be coached, to be developed and turn into.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
The player that they had hoped to be because.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
There wasn't a threat of free agency, and so that
was kind of a portion of it, I guess. But
you know, now with with free agency, the way you
construct a rosters is very different. And you know, again,
I think some players, you know, they see the the
pros and cons of trying to push to make as
much money as they possibly can, and some would say, hey,
I'm going to take a contract that's a longer term contract,
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so I have you know, more security with this team.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I mean, that's Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
If you look at Patrick mahomes deal right now, as
it relates in how much cash he's being given, you know,
versus some of the other new deals that have taken place,
like this, dude, he should be him and his agents
should be looking at Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert to
do their deal and then restructuring his because he's falling
way behind in regards to the amount of cash that
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he's being paid out for what he should be getting,
especially for a guy just won the MVP, just won
the Super Bowl. So but that's a byproduct of his choice.
You know, he wants stability, he wants to build with
that organization. That's that's what he wants to do, and
that could change over time. But look, I don't have
an issue with it. I just think there's certain things
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within the CBA that have allowed the owners to control
players and not being able to go fine with their
truly truly what their market value is in a faster fashion.
And maybe maybe that'll change as the dollars get bigger
and bigger. But again, it's probably not going to come
from the player side of things. It's going to come
from the owner side because they're usually the ones that
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push agendas to actually make things happen.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
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at the Shamrock Sound Studios.
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Speaker 3 (18:13):
By the way, I did notice something here, and I
want to congratulate Brady Quinn on having the kind of
poll that he does here at not only Fox Television
but Fox Sports Radio. Because the new studio is actually
located at Studio B, and from my understanding, they didn't
originally want to put it here, but Brady demanded that
it be in Studio B, so everybody knows whose studio
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it actually is.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
So I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
I did say, if it's possible, just switch up the
signs so you can put the B.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Sign great point.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Yet that way I know when I get there, like,
where the hell I'm going? Now you've seen you guys,
have seen me like I have no clue where I'm
going in that maze of a studio.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, I mean you've seen the video. Your thoughts on
the new setup, the new studio.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
By the way, kudos A round of applause, A round
of applause for one Jonah for the video that he said,
you got to give me a breakdown of what.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Our old studio used to look like.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
He wasn't able to provide the smell of that old studio,
which I don't think we none of us can forget,
but he did then show me the difference in the
new studio. And wow, let me just tell you this.
Can't wait to get back out there with you boys.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. Draft
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Speaker 4 (19:26):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
By the way, we are going to hear you're gonna
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It is time for another edition of.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
This time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I have been losing you know, you're a lying low
life gamely.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
January, it's over under all, right, lead laugh.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
We got five fresh new over unders as we get
set for the draft. We've been doing it every single
day this week. What do we got today?
Speaker 6 (21:27):
That's right?
Speaker 10 (21:28):
And we opened up the show talking about the Panthers
reaching a consensus on their first overall pick, obviously going
to be a quarterback, but the first over under today
is going to be first non quarterback taken off the
board over under on the draft position of that first
non quarterback will be over under two and a half.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Over Well, I didn't understand what you see.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
First first non quarterback taking off the board draft position
two and a half, right, So.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Two or three.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Right, Okay, I'll see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I'm gonna take the two or three. So if they
go at two under, yeah I'm gonna take I'm gonna
take the under. You think Houston's going to the Yeah,
I'm gonna double down. Let's sit it on the show. Yeah,
I'm gonna double down on it.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
I'm gonna I just can't believe Houston's not gonna take
a quarterback, and I'll be really surprised if it's not Stroud.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
So I'm gonna take the over as well.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Tyree Wilson is the favorite right now.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
I mean, is Texas Tech you know prospect big, a
big frame, man, it's a big kid, big dude.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Like six seven, big something on that.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I just the idea that Houston's sitting there with an
opportunity to get either the first or second best quarterback
prospect in the draft, and they're like, nah, we're gonna
go defense here. I just I'm I'm with Brady. I
don't I'll buy into it, all right, And if they're
gonna go defense, just trade back. I'm sure somebody else
would love the opportunity to pick it too, So.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
What else we got lee?
Speaker 10 (23:08):
If it is a non quarterback taking at number two,
it likely won't be a wide receiver. But I do
ask number of wide receivers taken in the first round
over under his set at three and a half?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Under?
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, wait, you see number of wide receivers taken the
first round?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Correct?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Did we do this yet? Like earlier this week and
I was at four and a half.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
We did do tight ends at two and a half?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
No, we did. I thought we did wide receivers at
four and a half.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
No, I think we did quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
We did Quentin Johnson draft position at twenty six and
a half.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
All right, well, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say the over.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
So who do you think's going? Obviously Jackson Smith and Jagbo.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Jackson Smith and Jig was a Flowers, Jeorde Addison. I
think Quentin Johnson goes as well.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You think Addison goes ahead of Quentin Johnson.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
I like Addison based on what he's done in the
past two years, the best of all these guys. I
know he's a little slender of frame, and I would
say Jackson Smith and Jig was twenty twenty one. Film
is better than anyone's. But Addison's a damn good receiver.
You can move him around, put them in different spots.
He's a precise route runner too, I think, you know,
as is Jackson, Smith and Jigg but he gets a
lot of credit for it. But Addison, to me is
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very skilled as well. I'm obviously the Politanicop winner two
years ago. So I just I think those are, in
my opinion, the top two guys. I would put Quentin
Johnson after that, then Zay Flowers just he's a little
bit more undersized, but it has all the tools guys.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Draft position for Hendon Hooker is set at thirty one
and a half.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Mmm.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Now that's a curious one right there.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Under.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I think he goes in the first round. I'm hearing
teams love him. I mean, the only thing holding him
back is his you know, he's coming.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Up with twenty a CEO. I'm going to take the
over on this one.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Man. It's kind of like a Lamar Jackson five where
somebody could trade up to the back end and take him.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I don't even think that's close.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well, but that's what Baltimore did. They trade it up
into the first round.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I mean taking Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, Lamar Jackson, Hendon Hooker. By the way, if Eugene
Robinson was picking, you know, he take Hendon Hooker.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I especially because his first name is Hendon.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, that's that's why.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That's nothing to do with the last name, not Jackie
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's nothing to do with the last name.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
No, I'll take the under.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
All right, guys, we tease it this.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Here's the payoff draft position for Joey Porter Junior is
at nineteen and a.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Half over under. I'll take The'll give me the over.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I don't I just don't like how it translates to
the next level. I've got issues with this frame, with
his range.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I didn't like how the problem with uh Richard Shermondon'd be.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
But Richard Sherman was a fifth round pick. Like I,
I could see Joey Porter Junior in the fifth round
would be a steal. But I just don't like where
this is headed right now. And I'm just I'm just
not not in favor of the idea that that he's
going to go from Penn State to the NFL and
have that sort of success. I mean, the last guy
to do a lot of Arrington and MICHAEH. Parsons arguably,
(26:22):
but to mely, yeah, right now, I'm breaking down Penn
State football here. That's what I do at Penn State.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's not a great breakdown analysis. I'm not with you
on this way. What are you talking about under under Lee?
I'm not even going to under.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
Sticking with the Big Ten total number of Big Ten
players drafted in the first round eight and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I want to stay over.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
I mean, you're gonna have Let's see how many Ohio
staters you can have Jackson Smith, cjald Paris, Johnson Junior,
maybe maybe a guy.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Like Dwan Jones and no one on defense for them.
He State's gonna have what won Joey Porter Jr. Michigan.
I don't think Michigan's gonna have one this year. And
then you have to go Devin Witherspoon out of Illinois.
He'll be one. Yeah, sure?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Does will Levis count, No, Skearansky, van.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Ness, Kronsky would count, Vaness would count.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm gonna go under. I'm gonna go under. That's a
hot number. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
The Maryland cornerback Deontay Banks is another one. So I'm
just I'm trying to roll through my head. I'm gonna
take the over.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
JMS out of Minnesota. John Michael Schmidts, by the way, Yeah, he'd.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Be back into the first round. There's just you know,
he's the best center in the draft.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
What about Mazzi Smith.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Mazzie Smith is what I'd like him in the back
end of the first round. I mean, you don't find
many big men to move like him, so he would
be Michigan's first round pick.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
My bad.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Yeah, that's I mean, I think the over, I think
they'll be able to get it, might be closed, might
be at nine, but I like the over.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I'm gonna take the under again. I just I don't
like how the Big ten. I just don't like how
the Big ten translates over to uh.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I mean I like the who has the rights for
the Big ten?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
That would be Fox, Okay, Yeah, I mean I love
the coverage, sure, sure, I mean they've done as good
a job as you possibly can highlighting the Big ten,
just as you possibly can, my guy, Rob Stone, there's
just a phenomenal job there. So all right, So that's Italy.
That's this today's edition for today, all right, and so
we got we got a fresh batch coming up tomorrow.
(28:38):
I have seen a little bit of a preview of
what we got coming up tomorrow, and I feel like
there's gonna be some insider information that lebar Arrington has
that could help us make our picks tomorrow because he
is well, I go, I.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Go to Q for all my information. So no suggests
everybody else should too.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
You go to Jay Glazer. Jay, as you know pig,
he'll every pick.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
He does not miss.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
He didn't miss last year. Yeah, I was sitting there.
I was, y'all, y'all remember when when when Darth Vader
was at the end of the movie and the Emperor,
the the Evil Emperor was trying to talk to Darth
Vader and tell him that the jack was it Palpatine
And he was telling us he was telling Darth Vader
(29:24):
to jack Skywalker up, and everybody knows that Skywalker was
Darth Vader's son, and he kept looking and he was
tormented and stuff like that. Every single time Jay would
tell us a pick, I felt like I was looking
at the Evil Emperor tell us a pick and looking
at Skywalker at the sports book like I wanted to
(29:45):
go to the sports book so bad in my mind,
I'm like looking, I'm like, I was torn, Like.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Do I go, Like, I'm like sitting.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It was right there and Jay is like running him
and he wasn't missing, and I'm looking and I'm looking
at Jay and I'm looking and I'm looking at Jay,
and I was tormented, y'all, just so happens.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'm not a big, big gambler, so I neither. I
was Okay. I hung, I hung strong, I hung steady.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
But I was sitting there like, man, if I just
put you know, X amount of dollars down or an
X amount of dollars right here on this one right here,
I mean the whole first round, he did not miss.
So if I would have just like threw one in there,
like say, like you know, ten fifteen grand right here
(30:36):
on pick number you know, twenty six, I was like
really in my head like calculating, but.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I didn't do it. I didn't do it, though, I'm
such a degenerate. When you guys are doing the draft.
I walked up to the sportsbook window and Lee's like,
what are you doing? And I was betting on some
horse race in like Idaho. I have no idea where
it was, but I just needed to scratch the itch.
But I did win, so a fresh, clean ten dollars
(31:03):
bell came back in my direction.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
How about that? Yeah? How about that?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Huh could have taken Jacob a lot of anymore?
Speaker 5 (31:09):
You ever noticed that?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Like?
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Yeah, I feel like when when people it's like they're like, oh,
you want to want a twenty back, You're like maybe
some tens and fives, Like nope.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I don't recall the last time I saw cash. I
haven't seen cash, and I still use cash man again,
straight cash on me? Yeah, yep, man, that's this whole
Apple pay thing too, is just like truly changed the
game man, Like Apple Pay, Like how can you just
go to McDonald's or somewhere and use Apple Pay? Like
everywhere you go you can use Apple Pay Like it's
(31:37):
crazy man. Yeah, I don't even look at cash no more. Yeah,
straight cash unless I'm on a caper, you know. Now,
if I'm about to do bad, now, I'm gonna go cash.
But I haven't done this quite some time, that's right.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
No paper trail, baby, that's right, no paper, No paper
trail of var No, no paper trailer.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Of Ar when LeVar Island is out there.
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get eleven?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Right? Yeah, yeah, that's correct.
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Speaker 6 (34:36):
Jonas, you have the privilege of giving us the good
this week?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
All right, My good is going to our old studio. Now,
some would say, well it's bad, it's ugly, little outdated,
some stuff. Maybe it didn't work from time to time.
Maybe it was falling apart. Maybe there were some coffee
stains on a wall because some people missed on. Yeah, roaches, bats,
I mean, you name.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
It, Mish Howerson, going back to the to the spot.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, I mean there's you know, there were some things.
There were some issues with that, but that studio was
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over twenty years of programming came out of that studio.
A lot of legends in the world of sports radio
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Speaker 10 (35:34):
Yeah, good times, good times. Well, guys, you can't have
good without the bad. Brady, what was bad this week?
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Well, I guess it's bad for a Hall of Famer
Brett farv His effort to dismiss the civil lawsuit against
him over the Mississippi welfare funds.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Was denied by Judge Fay Peterson. That's right.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
The arguments by Far's legal team were un persuasive and inapplicable.
So it sounds like this is not going to be dismissed.
It's going to continue to move on further and from
here we'll see where it goes. But it's not looking
good for Brett farav In regards to his involvement in
(36:17):
all of this, and.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
We'll have to see where it leads.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
But more than anything else, it's still going to be
in the headlines because there's still gonna be updates about
this and what happens from it, which I think it's
obviously changed in some people's mind their opinion of Brett Fav,
which is unfortunate. But like, I don't know all the
details and all that, but that's just the update with
that case.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Have Wrangler sales plummeted since this all came out.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Or well they came out with the open fly jeans,
And I don't think it had anything to do with
Brett Farav. It was just the fact that most people
didn't think it was appropriate to not put a zipper
or any sort of device to actually close that area
of the crotch on the jeans.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
So yeah, there's there's no fly jeans you're referring to.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
There was never really caught on, So that was more
the issue. It was the gratility of those actual genes
and wow, just the hole it's being placed at the knee,
which maybe some people would feel it might be inappropriate. Uh,
in this case, it was you know, more around me
the crossing.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
Okay, I just want to make sure my girlfriend took
down my far of jersey that was hung up, and
I just it wasn't because of the scandal, because she didn't.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Know anything about it.
Speaker 10 (37:27):
But I just let her do it, because, Yeah, I
couldn't fight for it. Didn't feel right to fight to
keep it up.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Did you have it hung feel it was right to
fight for Brett Favre.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
I just let it happens.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Was it hung up in a frame or just hung
up on the wall?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
I was hung up in a frame.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Why would you take it down?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Why don't you put it on like a an iron hat?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Hold on a second make aays frame? Was she persuasive
and taking it?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Hold on a second lee? Is that the one from
the fourth floor? Maybe stairs? You are such a dirt
bag you took home the.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Water the fourth floor we had the giveaway.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
I got there and they as office.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I know a guy who does that. Yeah, I know
a guy who work with that CBS it does that.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
He's got all kinds of stuff in his office front
him the captain Captain Kaiser.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yeah, it's like well known.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I walked it off.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
It's like oh do you get that. It's an so
I got fired. He's like, well they left.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
It, guys. That was all bad stuff. But what was
ugly this week?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
LeVar?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I gotta go with the Clippers, man, I mean, isn't
that ugly? It just sounds ugly, It feels ugly, and
it is ugly. I mean they're going home. They got
one game in the series. Uh, they're two biggest stars.
Weren't in there. Uh Russ was there. But you know,
it is what it is. Just you know, free agent
the Clippers, Yeah, the Clippers.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Oh he's a free agent on sham.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Too bad for that. So there'll be more than one
with the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
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A couple of moves were made in the NFL yesterday
two of the best players at their position, Justin Jefferson.
(02:47):
He got himself his fifth year option picked up by
the Minnesota Vikings, not a surprise. Also not a surprise,
Joe Burrow received his fifth year option as well too.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Well, sorry, who is that? Berto?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Who did Jonas just said, Yeah, who is that?
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Boo?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Sounds so good on a fresh mic, sounds so good.
But Joe Burrow, justin Jefferson fifth year options have been
picked up. Tu A Takobailoa also from the twenty twenty
draft classes, fifth year option has been picked up. And
so now we wait and see, especially at quarterback following
the signing of Jalen Hurtz, what that contract's going to
look like for those Cincinnati Bengals who have a brand
(03:25):
new stadium sponsor, which I'm sure has nothing to do
Brady Quinn with the fact that Joe Burrow's got a
monster contract coming up soon.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Yeah, I mean this is part of the process, right,
You pick up the fifth year option, you get them
under control for the next a couple of years. You
obviously have the franchise tags as projecting what the first
you know, I guess you'd say four years of that
would look like for an extension if you're to get
one done this offseason. But I'll keep saying that the
(03:53):
sooner the better for the Cincinati Bengals. The price tag
is only going to go up. We know that, and
that's an organization. This isn't according to me, this is
Forbes last year valued them as the least valued franchise
in the NFL. So they've got to come up with
a way of finding a bunch of cash that they
(04:13):
can stow away for those big guarantees that Joe Burrow
is going to want, and rightfully so, you know, I
think most organizations would say, if you're not building your
organization around Patch Mahomes, next up's probably Joe Burrow, if
not Josh Allen and how you're looking at your team
or franchise.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
So he's gonna get a big payday. The structure is
going to be interesting.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
I keep feeling and thinking it's going to be at
least a five year extension, you know, so it could
get reported as a seven year deal even though he's
got a couple of years left on his deal. But
I would say somewhere between a five to maybe even seven,
so they could spread this thing out, even though I
don't think Joe Burrow and his representatives want that long
term of a deal because they're going to want to
(04:56):
have the ability to come back to the negotiation table
for another big butte at the Apple, and so I
would think if they get one done relatively soon, it'll
be around a five year extension on the on the
two years that I think he's got left on his
his rookie deal.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm just my whole thing is when do teams get
to a point where they can't afford players, Like when
is it with the with.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
The ESCO rule and how much they've got to have
an escro due to the amount of guarantees in a contract.
It's getting there now. There's two frames of thought with that.
Owners will use it as an excuse to not push
it put as many guarantees at signing for that very reason,
or eventually some of the owners who have much deeper
(05:43):
pockets are going to say yeah, or even some of
the ones that don't they'll eventually say when we come
around to the next collective bartning agreement, they'll say, we
want to get rid of this, or we want to
we want to look at this again because we feel like,
you know, we're putt at a big time disadvantage because
we don't have the deep pockets that some of you
other owners do, and you've got more cash to be
(06:04):
able to throw around. I mean, look at obviously the
way Stan Cromkey handled things with the Rams, with the
theory of cash over cap. When you're dolling out these
huge signing bonuses that you can spread throughout the life
of a contract and put on some avoidable dummy years,
and you have to have the cash in order to
be able to do that, as opposed to, you know,
structuring that within the salary cap your typical way of
(06:25):
doing it. So that's that's got to be the route
that this thing goes. Because of the guarantees and how
big they're.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Getting, it feels like Cincinnati's got a pretty important year
coming up for him because until you pay Joe Burrow,
you've still got obviously Jamar Chase t Higgins is there.
It feels like, after you make the decision and the
commitment for Joe Burrow, how the hell are you going
to be able to pay everybody else or at least
some of these other stars like Jamar Chase. Feels like
(06:53):
that's the guy that you want to keep around based
on how how good those guys have been together all
the way going back to college. But also Tahiggins, Like,
there's been some rumblings this offseason about what to do
with T Higgins. I believe they either franchised him or
he's going to be there another year. But the feeling
is they'd like to keep t Higgins as well too,
but you can't afford everybody. It feels like this next
(07:15):
season is really an important season for the Bengals if
they want to get over the hump and try and
win a Super Bowl. Which is why losing that Super
Bowl to the Rams you look back on and go, damn,
you lost Odell Beckham junior. They were leading in that
game late, had an opportunity, and then Cooper Cup did
what Cooper Cup does in those games.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And it just.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Feels like after last year close lost to Kansas City,
next year could really be the year if they're going
to make a jump and win that Super Bowl, next
year should be the year. That's what it feels like
to me. I don't know if I'm betting money on it,
but that's what it feels like to me as far
as Cincinnati goes.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
You know, us thinking too, this is completely off topic,
but we kind of missed this and talking about whole
Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets. One of the articles
that kind of popped up was talking about how Dak
Prescott's now the longest current tenured quarterback with his team.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, and I think we've seen.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
The end of an era in regards to how long
quarterbacks play.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
With those franchises. I just don't think you're going to
see that very much.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
I mean, Patrick Mahomes, maybe you look at him, you say, Okay,
he's got a chance because he chose to science such
a long term deal.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
It's a great setup.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
But if Andy Reid's not there and he might not
feel confident in who they bring in, depending on who
that may be, you got to wonder if they don't
start to look.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
At going elsewhere.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
You know a lot of these guys who are younger
quarterbacks kind of born into a league. Now that's seen
Aaron Rodgers go from Green Bay after being there what eighteen.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Years or long under that ever was, and move on
to the Jets.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
They've watched Tom Brady move on from New England to
go to the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
Russell Wilson as well, he's not I mean, he's more
of a contemporary than when an old school guys, but
not to get into separate conversation. But when you look
at it, you go, yeah, this is probably the end
of an era of seeing players stay for one long
period of time with one team. And I'm not gonna
say like the NBA had an impact on it, because
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players have always eventually gone on moved to another team.
But even the NBA to a degree, I think a
lot of players it's very rare for you to see
them want to stay in one place like Damian Low
would stand in Portland.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It's just it's rare to see that.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
You know, you see most star players want to join
up or team up with other guys or move around
to different spots.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
And I think you're seeing that now in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
And maybe that's a byproduct of the player, but some
of it maybe too, just the fact that the quarterback
is evaluated so fast on his rookie deal that they
move on one way or another from a guy, and
even if you know so if things are working out,
they extend them. But then he might get to a
point where he's like, all right, they're not paying me
enough or not giving me what I need.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I need to go.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Somewhere else, and if you know, he plays early and
it doesn't work out, there's no patience, so they'll just
move on drafting X guy.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
It's it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I just I've always found the curious why is it
set up Why are the rules set up in such
a way where like, all right, let's let's like go
back to pre free agency, like you were able to
have dynasty football teams because you didn't have free agency.
I just wonder, why are the rules set up in
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a way where you can't you know, or where you
can compensate your team and keep your your team together.
Like I know, I know that might sound crazy, but
it's like it's almost like it's set up for the
economics to keep teams out of whack. And I know
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that's like an entertainment value, but sometimes, you know, to me,
the business of sports is an overblown it's an overblown
aspect of the sport and the game itself. And sometimes
for me, I hate that the business of it bleeds
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into the actual this is the game. And because there's
always this conversation and it's almost like if we could create,
if there was a way to create a kind of
like what the standard is or what.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
The structured standard.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Is that you can actually put teams together and keep
them together instead of it being a culture that's it's
been created where you're chasing that dollar because I mean,
at some point it's like I think about business in
the real world like I've I've been I've been a
part of media for quite some time, and one of
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the things that you have.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
To be aware of in what you do in media.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Is not pricing yourself out. You know, if you're you're
good or not. You know, if you're good enough to
be in certain positions. But it's still like the conversation
of even though you know you're good at what you
do and what you bring to the table, you can't
price yourself out because if you do that company can't
afford you next thing. One thing leads to another, you're
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not there anymore. Somebody else has to come in, whatever
it may be. That doesn't really exist so much, at
least for the elites and pro sports. It doesn't really
that doesn't really exist like pricing yourself out, like I
guess some guys can. I guess Lamar's action is in
that situation right now.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But isn't that part of the secret to I guess
one of the secrets to the Patriots' success was Tom
Brady never really priced himself out, so they can yep
around them.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
But and that's one way of looking at it, but
it shouldn't be I mean, that's looking from.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
The players perspective.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
The interesting point that you bring up, LeVar is the
players fought for free agency, right, They fought for the
ability to earn more in the top you know, one
two percent, to earn more, which it essentially has led to,
you know, free agency, which is made it harder to
keep teams together because of always the threat of going
to the free agency market and seeing what your market
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value is. And so that was something that was pushed
heavily and sacrificed heavily by by you know, prior players.
It wasn't necessarily that the owners didn't want to keep
a hell, it was the owners would.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Have loved it.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
And I think from the players standpoint, what would have
helped was I mean I remember talking to old dudes
who they're like, yeah, yeah, we played you know, ten, twelve,
fourteen years and You're like that's incredible.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
They're like, yeah, I did it with like one or
two teams and you're like, Wow, Usually you don't see
that very often.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
And it was because when they drafted a player, they
invested into them. You know, they knew it was a
developmental sport and it I mean, maybe it wasn't set
up quite the same way as now, but a lot
of those older guys had more of an opportunity to
be coached, to be developed and turn into.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
The player that they had hoped to be because.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
There wasn't a threat of free agency, and so that
was kind of a portion of it, I guess. But
you know, now with with free agency, the way you
construct a rosters is very different. And you know, again,
I think some players, you know, they see the the
pros and cons of trying to push to make as
much money as they possibly can, and some would say, hey,
I'm going to take a contract that's a longer term contract,
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so I have you know, more security with this team.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I mean, that's Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
If you look at Patrick mahomes deal right now, as
it relates in how much cash he's being given, you know,
versus some of the other new deals that have taken place,
like this, dude, he should be him and his agents
should be looking at Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert to
do their deal and then restructuring his because he's falling
way behind in regards to the amount of cash that
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he's being paid out for what he should be getting,
especially for a guy just won the MVP, just won
the Super Bowl. So but that's a byproduct of his choice.
You know, he wants stability, he wants to build with
that organization. That's that's what he wants to do, and
that could change over time. But look, I don't have
an issue with it. I just think there's certain things
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within the CBA that have allowed the owners to control
players and not being able to go fine with their
truly truly what their market value is in a faster fashion.
And maybe maybe that'll change as the dollars get bigger
and bigger. But again, it's probably not going to come
from the player side of things. It's going to come
from the owner side because they're usually the ones that
(15:26):
push agendas to actually make things happen.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
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Thursday night, a pm Eastern Time. But the next next
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Speaker 8 (16:40):
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Speaker 3 (16:55):
All right, don't temple Pilots, come on, bar you got this?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
No, I'm going man.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Oh man, I mean do. I didn't even really know
the song and that time, thank you disrespectful. By the way, Core,
this album Core one of the great albums in the nineties.
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Brady notes, I believe it was recorded in Dublin. That's right, Yeah,
at the Shamrock Sound Studios.
Speaker 9 (17:54):
From from my understanding there, she was doing it too well.
Brady had some marsh for turnoyeah. Yeah, that kind of
sounds right. Hey.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
By the way, I did notice something here, and I
want to congratulate Brady Quinn on having the kind of
poll that he does here at not only Fox Television
but Fox Sports Radio. Because the new studio is actually
located at Studio B, and from my understanding, they didn't
originally want to put it here, but Brady demanded that
it be in Studio B, so everybody knows whose studio
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it actually is.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
So I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
I did say, if it's possible, just switch up the
signs so you can put the B.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Sign great point.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Yet that way I know when I get there, like,
where the hell I'm going? Now you've seen you guys,
have seen me like I have no clue where I'm
going in that maze of a studio.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, I mean you've seen the video. Your thoughts on
the new setup, the new studio.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
By the way, kudos A round of applause, A round
of applause for one Jonah for the video that he said,
you got to give me a breakdown of what.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Our old studio used to look like.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
He wasn't able to provide the smell of that old studio,
which I don't think we none of us can forget,
but he did then show me the difference in the
new studio. And wow, let me just tell you this.
Can't wait to get back out there with you boys.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. Draft
Night Live here tomorrow, night Sticks in the house.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
By the way, we are going to hear you're gonna
be doing it with Steve Khime. They show tomorrow. We
are going to hear from Steve Kime coming up wave.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Var Come on, man, let's go.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Come on, come on, guys.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Joey Porter Junior surprise for you there, LeVar. And the
real thing with us here is that when when we
do uh you know, two pros and a cup of
joe here, we are going to have some over unders
and who knows, maybe Joey Porter Junior will be featured.
And the one thing about us is that when we
promise something to somebody, you know, these aren't art of
official promises. The worst thing in the world you could
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Speaker 10 (20:05):
Far?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Oh my gosh, here we go again, right, and you
know you're one hundred percent correct, but I'm ready for
you this time.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I'm definitely ready. And you know what, is this a thirty?
Is this like a quickie?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Is this a quickie one? Is this a quickie lee?
Or is this a sixties?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
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It's a quick It's a quickie.
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Damn right?
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All right, So coming up in we'll call it twenty
minutes from now from the tiraq dot com studios, we
are going to have our midweek towards the Good, the Bad,
and the Ugly here on FSR. But right now, we've
been promising it every single day leading up into the draft.
It is time for another edition of.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
This time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I have been losing you know, you're a lying low
life gamely.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
January, it's over under all, right, lead laugh.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
We got five fresh new over unders as we get
set for the draft. We've been doing it every single
day this week. What do we got today?
Speaker 6 (21:27):
That's right?
Speaker 10 (21:28):
And we opened up the show talking about the Panthers
reaching a consensus on their first overall pick, obviously going
to be a quarterback, but the first over under today
is going to be first non quarterback taken off the
board over under on the draft position of that first
non quarterback will be over under two and a half.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Over Well, I didn't understand what you see.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
First first non quarterback taking off the board draft position
two and a half, right, So.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Two or three.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Right, Okay, I'll see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I'm gonna take the two or three. So if they
go at two under, yeah I'm gonna take I'm gonna
take the under. You think Houston's going to the Yeah,
I'm gonna double down. Let's sit it on the show. Yeah,
I'm gonna double down on it.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
I'm gonna I just can't believe Houston's not gonna take
a quarterback, and I'll be really surprised if it's not Stroud.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
So I'm gonna take the over as well.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Tyree Wilson is the favorite right now.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
I mean, is Texas Tech you know prospect big, a
big frame, man, it's a big kid, big dude.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Like six seven, big something on that.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I just the idea that Houston's sitting there with an
opportunity to get either the first or second best quarterback
prospect in the draft, and they're like, nah, we're gonna
go defense here. I just I'm I'm with Brady. I
don't I'll buy into it, all right, And if they're
gonna go defense, just trade back. I'm sure somebody else
would love the opportunity to pick it too, So.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
What else we got lee?
Speaker 10 (23:08):
If it is a non quarterback taking at number two,
it likely won't be a wide receiver. But I do
ask number of wide receivers taken in the first round
over under his set at three and a half?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Under?
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, wait, you see number of wide receivers taken the
first round?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Correct?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Did we do this yet? Like earlier this week and
I was at four and a half.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
We did do tight ends at two and a half?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
No, we did. I thought we did wide receivers at
four and a half.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
No, I think we did quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
We did Quentin Johnson draft position at twenty six and
a half.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
All right, well, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say the over.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
So who do you think's going? Obviously Jackson Smith and Jagbo.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Jackson Smith and Jig was a Flowers, Jeorde Addison. I
think Quentin Johnson goes as well.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You think Addison goes ahead of Quentin Johnson.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
I like Addison based on what he's done in the
past two years, the best of all these guys. I
know he's a little slender of frame, and I would
say Jackson Smith and Jig was twenty twenty one. Film
is better than anyone's. But Addison's a damn good receiver.
You can move him around, put them in different spots.
He's a precise route runner too, I think, you know,
as is Jackson, Smith and Jigg but he gets a
lot of credit for it. But Addison, to me is
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very skilled as well. I'm obviously the Politanicop winner two
years ago. So I just I think those are, in
my opinion, the top two guys. I would put Quentin
Johnson after that, then Zay Flowers just he's a little
bit more undersized, but it has all the tools guys.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Draft position for Hendon Hooker is set at thirty one
and a half.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Mmm.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Now that's a curious one right there.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Under.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I think he goes in the first round. I'm hearing
teams love him. I mean, the only thing holding him
back is his you know, he's coming.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Up with twenty a CEO. I'm going to take the
over on this one.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Man. It's kind of like a Lamar Jackson five where
somebody could trade up to the back end and take him.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I don't even think that's close.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well, but that's what Baltimore did. They trade it up
into the first round.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I mean taking Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, Lamar Jackson, Hendon Hooker. By the way, if Eugene
Robinson was picking, you know, he take Hendon Hooker.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I especially because his first name is Hendon.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, that's that's why.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That's nothing to do with the last name, not Jackie
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's nothing to do with the last name.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
No, I'll take the under.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
All right, guys, we tease it this.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Here's the payoff draft position for Joey Porter Junior is
at nineteen and a.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Half over under. I'll take The'll give me the over.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I don't I just don't like how it translates to
the next level. I've got issues with this frame, with
his range.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I didn't like how the problem with uh Richard Shermondon'd be.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
But Richard Sherman was a fifth round pick. Like I,
I could see Joey Porter Junior in the fifth round
would be a steal. But I just don't like where
this is headed right now. And I'm just I'm just
not not in favor of the idea that that he's
going to go from Penn State to the NFL and
have that sort of success. I mean, the last guy
to do a lot of Arrington and MICHAEH. Parsons arguably,
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but to mely, yeah, right now, I'm breaking down Penn
State football here. That's what I do at Penn State.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's not a great breakdown analysis. I'm not with you
on this way. What are you talking about under under Lee?
I'm not even going to under.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
Sticking with the Big Ten total number of Big Ten
players drafted in the first round eight and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I want to stay over.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
I mean, you're gonna have Let's see how many Ohio
staters you can have Jackson Smith, cjald Paris, Johnson Junior,
maybe maybe a guy.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Like Dwan Jones and no one on defense for them.
He State's gonna have what won Joey Porter Jr. Michigan.
I don't think Michigan's gonna have one this year. And
then you have to go Devin Witherspoon out of Illinois.
He'll be one. Yeah, sure?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Does will Levis count, No, Skearansky, van.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Ness, Kronsky would count, Vaness would count.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm gonna go under. I'm gonna go under. That's a
hot number. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
The Maryland cornerback Deontay Banks is another one. So I'm
just I'm trying to roll through my head. I'm gonna
take the over.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
JMS out of Minnesota. John Michael Schmidts, by the way, Yeah, he'd.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Be back into the first round. There's just you know,
he's the best center in the draft.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
What about Mazzi Smith.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Mazzie Smith is what I'd like him in the back
end of the first round. I mean, you don't find
many big men to move like him, so he would
be Michigan's first round pick.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
My bad.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Yeah, that's I mean, I think the over, I think
they'll be able to get it, might be closed, might
be at nine, but I like the over.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I'm gonna take the under again. I just I don't
like how the Big ten. I just don't like how
the Big ten translates over to uh.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I mean I like the who has the rights for
the Big ten?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
That would be Fox, Okay, Yeah, I mean I love
the coverage, sure, sure, I mean they've done as good
a job as you possibly can highlighting the Big ten,
just as you possibly can, my guy, Rob Stone, there's
just a phenomenal job there. So all right, So that's Italy.
That's this today's edition for today, all right, and so
we got we got a fresh batch coming up tomorrow.
(28:38):
I have seen a little bit of a preview of
what we got coming up tomorrow, and I feel like
there's gonna be some insider information that lebar Arrington has
that could help us make our picks tomorrow because he
is well, I go, I.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Go to Q for all my information. So no suggests
everybody else should too.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
You go to Jay Glazer. Jay, as you know pig,
he'll every pick.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
He does not miss.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
He didn't miss last year. Yeah, I was sitting there.
I was, y'all, y'all remember when when when Darth Vader
was at the end of the movie and the Emperor,
the the Evil Emperor was trying to talk to Darth
Vader and tell him that the jack was it Palpatine
And he was telling us he was telling Darth Vader
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to jack Skywalker up, and everybody knows that Skywalker was
Darth Vader's son, and he kept looking and he was
tormented and stuff like that. Every single time Jay would
tell us a pick, I felt like I was looking
at the Evil Emperor tell us a pick and looking
at Skywalker at the sports book like I wanted to
(29:45):
go to the sports book so bad in my mind,
I'm like looking, I'm like, I was torn, Like.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Do I go, Like, I'm like sitting.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It was right there and Jay is like running him
and he wasn't missing, and I'm looking and I'm looking
at Jay and I'm looking and I'm looking at Jay,
and I was tormented, y'all, just so happens.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'm not a big, big gambler, so I neither. I
was Okay. I hung, I hung strong, I hung steady.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
But I was sitting there like, man, if I just
put you know, X amount of dollars down or an
X amount of dollars right here on this one right here,
I mean the whole first round, he did not miss.
So if I would have just like threw one in there,
like say, like you know, ten fifteen grand right here
(30:36):
on pick number you know, twenty six, I was like
really in my head like calculating, but.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I didn't do it. I didn't do it, though, I'm
such a degenerate. When you guys are doing the draft.
I walked up to the sportsbook window and Lee's like,
what are you doing? And I was betting on some
horse race in like Idaho. I have no idea where
it was, but I just needed to scratch the itch.
But I did win, so a fresh, clean ten dollars
(31:03):
bell came back in my direction.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
How about that? Yeah? How about that?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Huh could have taken Jacob a lot of anymore?
Speaker 5 (31:09):
You ever noticed that?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Like?
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Yeah, I feel like when when people it's like they're like, oh,
you want to want a twenty back, You're like maybe
some tens and fives, Like nope.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I don't recall the last time I saw cash. I
haven't seen cash, and I still use cash man again,
straight cash on me? Yeah, yep, man, that's this whole
Apple pay thing too, is just like truly changed the
game man, Like Apple Pay, Like how can you just
go to McDonald's or somewhere and use Apple Pay? Like
everywhere you go you can use Apple Pay Like it's
(31:37):
crazy man. Yeah, I don't even look at cash no more. Yeah,
straight cash unless I'm on a caper, you know. Now,
if I'm about to do bad, now, I'm gonna go cash.
But I haven't done this quite some time, that's right.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
No paper trail, baby, that's right, no paper, No paper
trail of var No, no paper trailer.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Of Ar when LeVar Island is out there.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And by the way, LeVar, who needs a when you
get eleven?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Right? Yeah, yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Stick Cities a place.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
It is a place.
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Midweek awards, the Good, the Bad, and the ugly, and
(32:49):
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Speaker 8 (32:52):
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Speaker 4 (33:03):
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Speaker 1 (33:04):
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Speaker 3 (33:44):
Two pros and the coming Joe and Fox Sports Radio
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in the NFL yesterday, very very interesting, although some of
the push doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense,
considering they were absolutely correct We will get into that
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Speaker 8 (34:22):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
All right, lead to lap executive producer, Who's got what
this week?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Jonas, you have the privilege of giving us the good
this week?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
All right, My good is going to our old studio. Now,
some would say, well it's bad, it's ugly, little outdated,
some stuff. Maybe it didn't work from time to time.
Maybe it was falling apart. Maybe there were some coffee
stains on a wall because some people missed on. Yeah, roaches, bats,
I mean, you name.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
It, Mish Howerson, going back to the to the spot.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, I mean there's you know, there were some things.
There were some issues with that, but that studio was
good to a lot of us for a long time here,
over twenty years of programming came out of that studio.
A lot of legends in the world of sports radio
and beyond that walked through there. A lot of luminaries,
it seemed many things. If that, if that studio could
(35:21):
tell stories, there'd be books written for years and years
to come. So my good is the old studio now
that we embark on a brand new era here at
Fox Sports Radio, A lot of good came out of
that studio right across the way.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
Yeah, good times, good times. Well, guys, you can't have
good without the bad. Brady, what was bad this week?
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Well, I guess it's bad for a Hall of Famer
Brett farv His effort to dismiss the civil lawsuit against
him over the Mississippi welfare funds.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Was denied by Judge Fay Peterson. That's right.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
The arguments by Far's legal team were un persuasive and inapplicable.
So it sounds like this is not going to be dismissed.
It's going to continue to move on further and from
here we'll see where it goes. But it's not looking
good for Brett farav In regards to his involvement in
(36:17):
all of this, and.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
We'll have to see where it leads.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
But more than anything else, it's still going to be
in the headlines because there's still gonna be updates about
this and what happens from it, which I think it's
obviously changed in some people's mind their opinion of Brett Fav,
which is unfortunate. But like, I don't know all the
details and all that, but that's just the update with
that case.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Have Wrangler sales plummeted since this all came out.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Or well they came out with the open fly jeans,
And I don't think it had anything to do with
Brett Farav. It was just the fact that most people
didn't think it was appropriate to not put a zipper
or any sort of device to actually close that area
of the crotch on the jeans.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
So yeah, there's there's no fly jeans you're referring to.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
There was never really caught on, So that was more
the issue. It was the gratility of those actual genes
and wow, just the hole it's being placed at the knee,
which maybe some people would feel it might be inappropriate. Uh,
in this case, it was you know, more around me
the crossing.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
Okay, I just want to make sure my girlfriend took
down my far of jersey that was hung up, and
I just it wasn't because of the scandal, because she didn't.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Know anything about it.
Speaker 10 (37:27):
But I just let her do it, because, Yeah, I
couldn't fight for it. Didn't feel right to fight to
keep it up.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Did you have it hung feel it was right to
fight for Brett Favre.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
I just let it happens.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Was it hung up in a frame or just hung
up on the wall?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
I was hung up in a frame.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Why would you take it down?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Why don't you put it on like a an iron hat?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Hold on a second make aays frame? Was she persuasive
and taking it?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Hold on a second lee? Is that the one from
the fourth floor? Maybe stairs? You are such a dirt
bag you took home the.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Water the fourth floor we had the giveaway.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
I got there and they as office.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I know a guy who does that. Yeah, I know
a guy who work with that CBS it does that.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
He's got all kinds of stuff in his office front
him the captain Captain Kaiser.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yeah, it's like well known.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I walked it off.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
It's like oh do you get that. It's an so
I got fired. He's like, well they left.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
It, guys. That was all bad stuff. But what was
ugly this week?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
LeVar?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I gotta go with the Clippers, man, I mean, isn't
that ugly? It just sounds ugly, It feels ugly, and
it is ugly. I mean they're going home. They got
one game in the series. Uh, they're two biggest stars.
Weren't in there. Uh Russ was there. But you know,
it is what it is. Just you know, free agent
the Clippers, Yeah, the Clippers.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Oh he's a free agent on sham.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Too bad for that. So there'll be more than one
with the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
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