May 4, 2023 • 38 mins
The guys wonder why Lamar Jackson’s contract still hasn’t been filed with the NFLPA. Senior NFL Reporter for The MMQB, Albert Breer addresses blown out of proportion reports and the format of the CFB 12-team playoff. Plus, a celebration of the pitch clock and much more!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and myself,
LeVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays six
to nine am Eastern or three am to six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You can find your local station for the Two Pros.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And a Cup of Joe show over at Foxsports Radio
dot com, or stream us live every day on the
iHeartRadio app by searching fs R.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Parties.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sick you like Dennis Diitchy. I'm doing sixty down A
one whizy wizzy you down the avenue, bump that I
spunder you realize a hupcap talk about what's that Dublin's back? Yeah,
uh huh. Trust no one got thet to get the
(01:02):
radia in the Big Apple.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Skirt yay not skirt skirt Autumn Cherry Red, Cherry Red,
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks with You can hang
out with us as always on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across
the country and wherever the hell you are making us
a part of your Thursday morning. We appreciate you doing so.
We're gonna take you all the way up until nine
am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific, and we do it
all live from the tire rack dot Com studios tire
rack dot com. We'll help you get there an unmatched selection,
fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten
thousand recommended installers. Tire rack dot com. The way tire
(01:44):
buying should be.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
When we come our with our shop, we got to
have a shop man.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
We got.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
We got at least three or four T shirts we got.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
We have it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, Caroline, that'd be cool. I mean, arch like the
things we say is that we got to create a
merch store. We gotta and we got to do something
for like Saint Patti's Day and stuff like that, like
great next year. We just got to have build ups, man,
because the sure it needs to be a pac man,
Sure it does. I'm just saying that's kind of the first. Yeah,
(02:19):
I mean, I think that that's the most legendary part
of our show. Yea.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You know, there's also.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Or what about me?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Why do we say what about me?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I think I think people started writing.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
It's because of what we said, which is actually what
makes it better.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I think, Yeah, I like, what about I'll be honest.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
With you, not to get the business side of things,
but we probably could run with that quote that have
no legal issues.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, because we just jumbled to different parts of
the movie. Yeah, exact point. What about me past? Also,
if you if you want to know, if somebody is
a real listener to the program, if we made a
shirt that just said Burdo with a question mark, then
you would know they're talking about the racist drop Like
then you would know that's that's a heat check, Like
who's really all in on this show?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I feel like, yeah, I feel like that would that
would be fair.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So there's a lot a lot of opportunity for apparel
here on this show. There's gonna be a lot of
opportunity for smiles and laughs. Everybody's really really excited about
the Lamar Jackson contract with the Baltimore Ravens. They're going
to announce the press at the press conference. They're going
to make it official later on. Except Brady Quinn, You've
noticed that there's something missing from this, from this little
(03:39):
equation here involving Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens and
the contract.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
What's the problem here?
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Yeah, you guys know me like I like to kind
of dig into the details. You know, they as they
say that.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
The devil's in the details.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Yeah, so I'll usually try to go on spow track
or some of these other websites that do a good
job of getting the actual contract once it's filed with
the NFLPA. And how long has it been since they
announced the extension.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
A little over a week.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Yeah, it's not file. It's still not file with the
nfl PO, So that is that's usually it's kind of
interesting how that worked out.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
The other player who that most recently happened with was
was Jalen Hurts, So you know, and look, the truth
of the matter is it probably has a lot to
do with kind of agreeing to things verbally and then
getting things down, you know, and actual writing. The team,
I'm sure, as well as the agent are always so
(04:40):
you know, excited to be able to announce they've got
an agreement that they've got a deal in principle. Now
they just have to get down they have to get
it done in writing, right Cross their t's dot their eyes.
So sometimes that that prolongs, you know, this a little
bit as they iron out some of the various clauses
and some of the things that were negotiated, and they
go back and forth and they but what also happens
(05:03):
is what's reported doesn't always end up being.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Quite that accurate.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
So we'll see what We'll see what the contract looks
like once it's filed, once we're able to kind of
soar through it. But it's just kind of odd, you know,
that this is such a big deal, especially for Baltimore,
for Lamar everything else, and we're still yet to be
able to see any details from I'm wondering how long
this is going to drag on because this has actually
been one of the longer windows that I've seen, at
(05:31):
least as far as when a when a deal was
announced and then still not seeing the details of that contract.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
To look at that, a little bit of digging and
we find out that there could be something that isn't
all on the up and up with this deal.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Maybe I don't know that it's not all in the
up and up.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
It's just you know, the people who go to the
media first are the agents, and you know, they want
to throw out these total value of the contract average
annual salaries, which are basically about as valued as as
the toilet paper you use in the mornings or or shop. Yeah,
I'm just I'm saying those metrics to me are irrelevant
and we've gone through this before because they're not the
(06:09):
money that you get up front of the signing bonus.
They're not the guarantees at signing, which really is what
the team is on the hook for, or even the
probable you know, the total guarantees within the contract and
what you're probable to make in the first year or two.
So all those things are more important, and they're actually
the financial commitment the team is making to you. But
(06:29):
unfortunately we don't ever hear those numbers and will look,
we in the media are partially to blame. You know,
we're the ones that continue to keep you know, blowing
out of proportion contracts that aren't what the what they're
stated to be. You know, we put up graphics on
TV and on streaming services, we do all look at
this average annual vite, Oh my gosh, like it's well, okay,
(06:51):
they're never going to get to that back end of
the contract is we'll have to re you know, restructure
the contract to make it work.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
When did you guys first figure out that's how the
deal we're being done that it was all about fly
got screwed.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
In a in a in a contract. So yeah, that's.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Literally we had to agreed upon terms. And I was
talking to my agent. I was I was like, what
are the things you value most? He goes here and
back back then it was way more complicated, but he
basically said, look, signing bonus, total guarantee and signing and
then you know your your other you know, escalators at
that point in time that you're likely to make based
on playtime. And he's like, those are the only things
(07:31):
you can base you know, your contract off, because anything
past that it's all fluff. They'll probably come back to restructure,
renegotiat or extend and and then and at that point
moving forward, I was like, all right, well that's that's
what I'm gonna look at for contracts from here on out.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Then m I just dealt with I mean, my first
contracts were fine, rookie contract fine, restructurings fine. But when
I when that that last one in Washington had just
it was it was bad, you know, and it was
just all over one bonus, you know. And it's interesting that,
(08:04):
you know, the conversation points that Q points out because
there were literally five or six pages of errors within
my contract. Whether it was a typo, whether something was
was omitted from from the contract, whatever it may have been.
There were like several pages of you know, of seven
(08:28):
seven I remember this, uh, the details of it, but
I mean there were just errors that were in and
they needed to be corrected.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Who was that on the agent?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I mean, well, so so they they both certified it.
That's that's where the problem, the problem that took place
was we were in such a rush to get it
done based off of the circumstances that that were surrounding
getting the deal done. It was it was like right
up on the the deadline of submitting restructurings, are submitting
(09:07):
submitting contracts that would bring your cap number down. And
so I said I would do it because Champ Bailey
in which I found out later it wasn't Champ, it
was Washington, but it was told to me that it
was Champed that that backed out of doing the deal
at the last minute, and that he didn't want to
(09:30):
come back to Washington. So I was like, well, I'll
restruct your mind so that we can, you know, fix
our cap, you know, make sure the cap is good.
Da da da, y'all give me some more guarantees up front.
From my back end, like everything is cool, Like my
earning average was high, Like my contract was fine. I
didn't have to do anything for like three years or
(09:53):
so with my contract, but I did restructure it. And
then within the restructuring of it, one of my bonuses
was was not there. It was like not it wasn't there,
and and so now it became uh, Dan Snyder says
to me, just let the let the agents and the
(10:14):
attorneys handle it, like don't worry about it. I'm like,
all right, no problem. I ain't think nothing else of it.
And then it became this big thing because Dan Snyder's like, yeah,
we're not putting that that bonus is not going in there.
And it was a six point five million dollar bonus,
and and so I mean it should have been. They
(10:34):
signed off on it, like I don't know what what
the approach to it is now and what the process
of it is. The protocols of how you finish off
a contract how they're done now. But I mean that
was Gene Upshaw was still alive. He was still the
president of the Players Association at that time. It became
a big thing. I didn't even want it to become
(10:54):
public knowledge of what took place, but it became public
knowledge because the got involved and it just became this
ugly or deal. But I mean, I don't really recall
how the process wasn't, you know, kind of more safeguarding
my situation in that moment, because if you look at
what my average earning was yearly before I did the
(11:16):
deal and what it was after I did the deal,
it's very easy to see that something was wrong, you know.
But and they still kind of turned it into a
you know, my agent messed it up, he gets suspended.
But still in the end, I was the one that
was impacted by.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You mentioned that it became public. I've always thought that
was kind of strange that we know the details of
these contracts that they go public, Like I've always found
that weird, like, like why do we need to know that?
Why do we need to know every single detail of
every single contract.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I think that's one of the low key, more interesting
things when it comes to like whenever there's a labor dispute,
right where there's a threatening of, hey, no game is
going to be played because the collective bargaining agreement and
you know, you've get the owners are one side, billionaires, right,
and you get these you know, maybe millionaires on the
other side, which obviously the majority of the league is on.
(12:11):
I shouldn't say a majority, but it still takes a
while to accumulate to become a millionaire. People think that
like everyone's drafted in the NFL is a millionaire. That's
not the case. You know, league minimum is about half
million bucks right between agent fees, taking out tax, everything else.
That first season when you're playing on a rookie deal,
especially for guys who have any guarantees, any signing bonuses
(12:32):
incorporated in that, you know you're gonna make, you know,
after taxes, about quarter million bucks.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Great living.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Don't get me wrong, but there's a misconception as far
as how much NFL players are making as compared to
other professional sports or just in general. And so I
always find the interesting part is there's a labor dispute,
it fans immediately side with the owners. They immediately like
all these players.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Are being greedy.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
It's like, wait a second, these dudes are like potentially
risking their body long term to play a game they love,
they're fortunate to play and all that. Like every player
is gonna tell you that. But they're risking their body,
they're risking their mind the more that comes out in
regards to potential correlations to CTE and everything else. They
(13:21):
are putting themselves through that to earn a paycheck.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And yet somehow fans are find.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
The owners more relatable. They find the billionaires more relatable.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Because they can replace us. You don't replace that, you
don't replace the team.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I get that, but I also think it's because there's
transparency to what players make. If you saw the millions
of dollars that an organization makes, you'd probably look at
it a little bit different, Like you'd probably hold your
owner and your general manager other people who are involved
in the front of oppos side of things.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Because that's a secret too. Right.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
We don't know exactly what a head coach makes or
exactly what a general manager makes in the NFL, and
if you did, as a fan base, you probably start
holding them more accountable when things didn't work out, and
even your owner to that standpoint to know how much
his business is making. Now, that's not how the whole
thing's structure and all that, but I do think that
plays a role. Like if you saw, I mean, this
(14:25):
happens all the time. Where you get someone who gets
a balloon because they get fired because they run, you know,
whatever it is, whether it's a hedge fund or something else,
into the ground.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You get a bunch of people who just invest in.
They lost money, but yet this guy's getting thirty million
bucks in the way out. You're going, wait and wait
a second, like, how does this make sense?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Like there's no transparency with it, which is one of
the reasons why I've always felt like probably why fans
resort to looking at players and going, well, it's easy
to sit there and harp on that guy, or if
he doesn't have a good game, well I know what
he's making.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Well, yeah, you don't know what.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
The rest of the folks who are involved are making
on the other side of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's weird because if you go into a restaurant and
all of a sudden they raise the prices on the food,
you're not pissed off at the waiter. You're pissed off
at the owner of the restaurant, like, why are you
jacking up the prices on the food? If you went
to a game and paid whatever amount of money it
is for a beer and a hot dog or anything
else there, I'd love to know the percentage of that
money that goes to the player and what percentage goes
(15:26):
to the owner. You'll never know that. Yet when this
stuff happens, to your point, people take it out of
the players. It's like, man like, the players probably aren't
getting the bulk of the percentage off that.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Well, I could promise see this, the overall revenue splits,
not fifty to fifty it used to be, But the players'
union has given back those percentages over a period of
time since at least since Steve Mariray Smith has taken.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
What do you mean they have one of those negotiations
with the NFL owners that hasn't gone well for them.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's weird, but they can smoke weed at least, I
mean there is that. I mean, they did get that
out of the deal. So it is two pros and
a cup of joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. You can hang
out with us as always on the iHeartRadio app. All right,
it's coming up next. There was somebody who was drafted
last weekend in the NFL, and they have taken their
(16:16):
anger out on a member of this show's extended family,
and you're going to hear from that person next here
on FSR.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio App.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio coming up in about twenty minutes from now
here from those tiraq dot com studios. Just another example
of what one change has done to an entire sport.
It's yours again twenty minutes from now. But for right now,
we turn it over to the man himself. Here on
a Thursday. It is a tradition unlike any other. It
is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter at the NMMC. You
(17:00):
can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer, Big Al.
What's happening. How's your Thursday how is the sights and
sounds from the porch?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Good?
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Good good? I got uh, we've got we got some
leaves in the trees now, so everything's coming on.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Oh nice man, I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Right.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
How about that winner's almost over here?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You go to restart your streak today? You know, good, good,
strong signal.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I help, so I hoped. So we got off. It
was all touch and go there with we. Uh, I
had a love the statugy connections. So we had to
hang out.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
They call that right now, Albert, we got to get
to the bottom of this because this feels like a
little bit of friendly fire. So Dwan Jones, uh, he
was the draft pick of the Cleveland Browns, and he
took to Twitter yesterday because Brady's buddy Dove climb In,
who we think is artificial intelligence. We don't know that
that's actually a real person. But Dove Climbing noted that
(17:53):
there were some issues with Dwan Jones in the draft process,
telling teams he'd rather play in the NBA and the NFL.
He also, you know, attached you on the tweet and
said that there was questions about how he had handled
the Senior Bowl and his interviews pre draft et cetera,
et cetera. So Dwan Jones, fellow Buckeye, same with you
(18:15):
wrote false, like where do y'all get this information from?
So who was that directed at? Was that you were
AI's dove climbing.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Well, I guess it's kind of like in a gray area,
and Brady knows about this gray area where you say
something and then it sort of gets taken out of
context and blown out of proportion and then you're left
to answer for something that really lacks the sort of
nuance and what you were trying to say. So basically,
you know, there was a few different things that happened
(18:46):
with them on Jones over the pre draft process. One
was he had one great day at the Senior Bowl,
social media went crazy over it, and then he sort
of packed it in from there. Now he said he
was injured. There were teams that question that. Then you
go to the Combine. He had put on I think
six or seven towns between the Senior Bowl of the Combine,
and then it is to day he chose not to
(19:06):
weigh in, which got a real reaction from NFL team.
So there were questions about how seriously he was taking
the free draft process, which matched up with some things
as a reputation at Ohio State, and then as part
of like interviewing with teams, what happened? You know, they
ask you all kinds of questions. He's a former basketball player,
so he told teams that he had dreamed of playing
(19:29):
in the NBA, not the NFL. And I'm not saying
that was his dream right now, but you know it
had been his dream in the past. And so you know,
you add all this stuff up and I think you
guys know where this goes for NFL teams, it's all right.
So he's got a motivation problem, away problem, and we
don't know if he really loves football, and that's sort
of I think why he fell to the fourth round.
(19:51):
And I think the Browns did great to get him
where they got him, because he's an immense talent. But
it was sort of a piece to this puzzle that
teams were putting together there in questioning you know what
this guy's going to look like two three years from now.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Right, which I mean again, it's so funny to me
the things that people pick and.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Choose to respond to.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, which I remember there was a there's a quarterback,
and I remember a quarterback coach in the NFL telling
me this, but he had said in a meeting like, yeah,
I want to be a doctor. Like I'm gonna give
the whole NFL thing a try and things don't work out,
I want to be a doctor.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And the quarterback coach was like rubbed the wrong way by.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
It, and I'm like, yeah, I'm listening to it, going
hold on, the guy wants to be a doctor one
day and he's waiting to see how things work out
in the NFL, and if they don't, you're gonna hold
that against him, Like how much does he really love football?
Because supposed to be a doctor. I mean, the reality is,
you know, coaches, scouts, people within organizations, they hear things
(20:49):
and they're like, well, if he's not desperate to play football,
he must not really love football. And you're like, well,
how many guys in the NFL do desperately love football?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I mean, you know, saying like I feel like that's
one of the things that.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Gets so overblown, not only from the scouting standpoint, but
even just like when people are like, oh, a lot
of guys do it for the paycheck.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That and that's not.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
That's the worst thing in the world, because like they're
incentivized to go out there to do you the job
and play well, that's just that's probably a lot of
people out there listening right now, Albert, who've got jobs
who don't like their job, but their incentivized to do
it because their paycheck.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Is it not right?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
No?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
And I agree, And I think like part of it is,
like it's like, so you know, I obviously, like I
covered the Patriots coming up, so I was around Belichick
and those guys, and a lot of what Belichick and
those guys built was you know, kind of based off
of what Belichick learned from Parcels. And there's that term
football character, right, and a lot of the guys in
(21:48):
that Patriot building would define football character as he needs
his next snap of football the same way he needs
his next breath of air, you know what I mean,
Like he needs football. And I know, like with a
lot of these people, like they felt like the best
way to build teams was guys who are obsessed with
it because that's how you build a quote unquote culture.
(22:10):
And so, you know, I think that's certainly part of it, Brady,
is that, like you have people who had to scrap
and fight and it took everything they you know, could,
everything they had to make it to the NFL, And
so like their entire life is based on that and
they're going to do everything they possibly can to hold
on to it. I think with somebody like Dwan Jones
sort of the flip side of it, where it's like,
(22:33):
how how motivated is this guy going to be to
make it? You know what I mean? Like, how like
if this guy's having trouble keeping his weight under three eighty,
let's say before the like through the biggest job interview
of his life, Like, how is he going to do that,
you know, in the second third year of his contract?
If we give him a second contract, how is he
(22:55):
going to stay motivated through that? Like That's really what
it is.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I get that.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I think there's also an element of the like he's
probably been the biggest human being than most people have
ever seen, like basically his entire life. And I also
feel like when you're he's super talented, he's super big,
Like I was shocked too that he drafted you got
drafted where he did. But there also has to be
an element of like doesn't that kind of come with
like being the type of guy like that always has
(23:22):
had an advantage over every single person he went up against. Like,
has there ever been a d end or anyone he's
gone up against that's been bigger than him? I'm gonna
I'm gonna venturely say no, nor will there although there
ever be in the NFL, Like I think in some ways,
like that's that's what's challenging, is when you've got something
that's bigger than you and you've got to take that
on and beat it. I don't know that he's ever
gonna face that, which is probably just a byproduct of
(23:44):
of how he's always you know, how he was born,
how he's you know, grown up and everything else. Like,
but I don't know that it needs to be like
a sticking point, does it.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
It just depends, you know what I mean? Because like
it's like the schoolyard bullies thing, right, Like it's like
if nine times out of ten you've won the fight
when you get off the bus, how are you going
to react when that's not the dynamic that you're living
in anymore? Right? Like I mean, if you're somebody who's
that townented, it's like, you know, it's like that, It's
like the old Mike Tyson. Mind, everybody's got a plan
(24:15):
til I get punched in the face, right Like, So
you know, you know if if ninety percent of the time,
you know, in college and one hundred percent of the
time in high school, you know, he was facing somebody
who had no chance against him and he didn't have
to do all the extra little things to make it work.
But you know, what, what's that going to look like
when maybe he has a physical advantage over somebody fifty
(24:38):
percent of the time, you know, And I think it's
a fair I think that part of it's there, you know,
I think that part of it's there, And it's you know,
how motivated is he going to be to keep going?
And you know, I think a huge part of this, Brady,
and you know this and LaVar you went through it
like I you know, for all these guys, it's like,
this is the biggest job interview of your life. You
have three or four months to put your best foot
(25:00):
forward and show NFL people who you are. And you know,
I think like that was sort of where Dewan Jones
stubbed his toe A bunch is like, well, all right,
like why didn't you weigh in at your pro day? Like,
that's a real red flag, especially after you gained whatever
was six or seven pounds between the Senior Bowl and
the Combine. That's only like three or four weeks between
(25:21):
the Senior Bowl and the Combine, Right, So, like, I
think there are fair questions there, and that was the
only thing I was sort of getting at. And I
think the NBA thing, you know, somebody plucks that out
of there. It's like, well, like you know, he wants
to play in the NBA and at the NFL. It's
not what I was saying. It was sort of more
this is what he was telling teams, and it was
kind of seen as a red flag, and that like
(25:43):
is this guy going to stay motivated as a football
player when he couldn't even get himself where he needed
to be, you know again over the biggest job interviewed
his life?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, which is a fair question. Let me you said
you were covering the Patriots. What what's the latest with
with mac Jones? I mean, how how is this going
to end?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
It?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Are the trade talks still continuing or are they dwindling
a little bit? Like we know that Belichick came out
and denied it. They had an opportunity to draft a quarterback.
They didn't draft a quarterback. What is really going on
from your perspective with Mac Jones and none of them?
Speaker 7 (26:22):
You know, LeVar, it's funny and we just talked about
that whole you know, the old school way of looking
at things, and you know, how how they motivate in
the program like that, And you know, I think part
of this is sort of knocking him back down and
trying to break him down and build him back up.
And you know, I think to some of these you
(26:43):
can compare it to and I feel like we're calling
him back into the eighties a lot here. But like
the way Bill barselves brought Phil Simms along when he
was a young quarterback, and even like the way that
Belichick and Brady interacted when Brady was younger. You know,
I think a lot of things went wrong last year. Obviously,
the coaching staff was very, very sideways, and the way
(27:04):
that I think was set up was unconventional, to put
it nicely, and you know, I think the Bill's feeling
was you know, even with all that accounted for, Mac
didn't react well, and Mac didn't handle it well, and
like there are bigger problems within the locker room because
the quarterback didn't handle it well. So, you know, I
(27:25):
think basically what this whole offseason has been has been
Bill sending a message like you're gonna have to earn
this back now, you know. And I do think he's
going to be their starting quarterback in Week one, and
I do think having Bill O'Brien there is really going
to benefit him. And I think Max's got a chance
to be a good quarterback. Do I think he's gonna
be a great quarterback in the NFL. I don't know
if he's a physical capacity for that, but we've seen
(27:45):
him play well, so you know, I think that really
that's what this offseason has been about, is breaking him
down and building him back up. And you know, I think,
you know, it's sort of set up in a way
where Belichick's someone breaking him down, and I think O'Brien's
going to be the one to build him back up.
And we'll see where it goes. But I do think
like they're going to get Bailey's Happy chances to take
the job from him, and I don't think Bailey's Appy
(28:07):
is going to take the job from him, But I
do think that all of this is sort of aimed
at at trying to get more out of mac Jones
than they got out of them last year.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Albert Breer, you can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer.
He's a senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. Joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Albert. Last one for me,
I saw you vent a little bit about college football's
twelve team playoff schedule coming up. I mean, what's your
big issue with the sport that we all know and love?
And for some reason I had to air it out
on social media.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
I mean, well, I don't want to. I just don't understand,
Like do these boll executives have like pictures of people
or something like It's unbelievable. I like, the quarterfinals now
are going to be at Bull Sites. When I think
one of the greatest things that college football has going
for it is the game day atmosphere right in all
these places in South End and Columbus and ann Arbor
(28:58):
and State College and Aymesville and Tuscal loose to all
these places like it does. The greatest natural resource that
one of the greatest natural resources of college football has
is the atmosphere around its games and everything that goes
on or goes on on campus on game day, and
you know, I understand the semi finals and the finals
(29:19):
being a neutral site. That totally makes sense. I don't
know how it helps anybody to have the quarterfinals and
neutral sites. Like I it doesn't help alumni who aren't
going to travel three straight weeks for games. It doesn't
help the players who are constantly having to be on
the road. And I mean, honestly, like I think it's
sort of like, what does it do for the bowl games?
You know, at the end of the day, I mean,
(29:39):
it makes some money. I guess that's the point of
the whole thing, right, But if you look at it,
if you look at it though, like I mean, this
is correct me if I'm wrong here, and you guys
might have the interest. This is like the death of
the Rose Bowl team Big ten TAC twelve, right.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Right, I mean yes and no, obviously depending on now,
if they wanted to orchestrate it in a way in
which you could have a Big ten PAT twelve representative,
I would say the death of the Rose Bowl more
was born out of the fact that the PAC twelve
may not be in existence as we know it, So
that would probably that would probably be the first thing
(30:17):
Albert that actually is the death of the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
In regards to the Big ten PAC twelve.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Brady, Brady, I just wanted to see one time the
USC or UCLA representing.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
I guess there's a very good chance.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
There's a very good chance that could happen.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Let me say this though, in defense of the first system,
or at least the way it's put out there is
it is interesting, like you know, you you bring up
the point of a fan is going to have to
go to a neutral site, Well they.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Might have to do that anyway.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Like if you're a wildcard team in the NFL, your
team goes on a run and you want to do
the games, you've.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Got to buy a ticket anyway. So that's kind of
always existed.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
And I don't know about you, but I would be
much more apt to go to a nice destination where
a lot of these Bowl games are to go watch
that game, as opposed to I don't know any other
city that might be tough to travel to because of
weather at that point in time in the year. I
think there's a lot of ancillary benefits that outside of
just the Bowl making money.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I think there's a lot of.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Benefits not only for the player, the way they're treated,
et cetera. Where it makes sense the way it is
and by the way, this thing could continue to expand.
Who knows, if it's just going to stay at twelve,
it could go to sixteen. There might be more of
an opportunity to have more you know, first round games
on campuses and so forth.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Yeah, I just like, I like, I don't know, I
feel like even the semifinals now, all right, So like
for me, like obviously, like somebody my age, I've got kids,
I've got a job, all that. Like, if Ohio State
had made it to the championship game like last year,
I would have gone, right, I would have gone to
LA for the championship game. I couldn't. I couldn't make
(31:51):
it work going to the semifinal and the in the final, right,
But there were a lot of like Ohio State people
in Atlanta that went to that game. I think, like Gan,
I just think asking people to go to three straight
rounds or getting enough alumni.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
How's that any different from March Madness?
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Well, have you ever been to like the first couple
of rounds of March Madness?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, but I'm saying but.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I mean, people met the same logic if you're following
your team to a national championship in college basketball, I.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Know, no, it is the same. But like if you
go to those first and second round games right March madness.
Now they've gotten smarter about putting them in places where
like fans of certain teams can get to, right, But like,
I mean there are I've seen it before. I think
I've been to those games, Like I covered a few
of those when I was younger, where the arena is
like twenty five, like there's nobody at them, you know
(32:42):
what I mean, Like and it's just you know, basically
like the arena is a television set, you know what
I mean. And we don't notice that on TV because
they have wasted the manipulate and everything else. I mean,
I'm not saying you'd have that in football for like
a quarterfinal game, but I mean it's say like that,
but those quarterfinals are what are those? Are those gonna
(33:03):
be over New Year's Is that right?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Uh? No, I think it's a week before. I think
it's like the twentieth or something like that, like Christmas.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Yeah, right, I just don't know, like like it's again,
like I just like getting people into the stadium where
it's not just a completely like flat corporate crowd for
those games, I think it's gonna be borderline impossible. And
that's why I think, like at least if you put
them on campus, half of the that matchup, like half
(33:32):
of the fans of that of the two teams in
that matchup have great access to the game, which means
you're going to give that game atmosphere and you're also
gonna brilliant You're.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
You're assuming that. But but there's a lot of students
who are already home for winter break.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
But there's still people in those cities that are going
to go you know what I.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Mean college, Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I mean not everywhere's like Columbus, Ohio, buddy. You go
to some of these other schools, like they've got a community.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
But where you went to school, Like like there's how
many you just made to drive from Chicago, you know
at their time?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, if Notre Dame's playing, yeah, of course.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
But like I'm saying, you're not going to get that
away crowd and you're not gonna have a student body
because even then, you know, maybe your student section stays around,
but there's a lot of who are going to be
going home.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Well, well, we've got some time to discuss this for
the weekend. We're up against at Albert So we apologize.
By the way, the quarterfinals are New Year's even New
Year's Day that's being reported on by lead to lap so,
but Albert, we appreciate it again. Sorry about that. We're
up against Matt Albert Brere on Twitter and we'll do
it again next Thursday.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
There he is, all right, my phone made it too.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, hell yeah, it has begun. Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up
next though, we are going to have a highlight about
why one sport made a change it desperately needed to
do a long time ago. Here on FSR.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Pally Fusco here with Dony Fusco. Of course, you know
us as the host of the number one rated Polly
and Tony.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Fusco show world Right now, we all.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
Know you sick and tired of these stupid sports shows
where the hosts say stupid things like Tom Brady's the
goat or Lebron James is good at basketball, which he
is clearly not.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
See, we give you smart takes.
Speaker 9 (35:21):
Yeah, and we also bring on so called famous guests
from across the sports world and show them why we
know much.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
More than they built.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
You're off the show.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
Listen to the Folly and Tony Fusco Show on the
iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Two pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. So
coming up top of next hour, we are going to
get into the details on why somebody in the National
Football League decided to call it quit. We'll get into
that for you here again a little over ten minutes
from now from the tire rack dot Com studios. But
right now it is time for the progressive play of
(36:02):
the day.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Bunsie with a fly ball.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
All right, there's gonna be a walk off, brand slam
over the small walling right. A big celebration awaits Bunsie
rounding third. His team is now gonna pound them events.
The Dodgers trailed five to nothing after two and a
half at Muncie with the brand slam off, Kimbrol and
(36:30):
the Dodgers have won six consecutive games.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Wow, that is courtesy of the blowtorch. AM five to
seventy LA Sports on the call. That is the progressive
play of the day. Progressive is making things even easier.
They will help you bundle your home and car insurance
together so he can save on both. Learn more Progressive
dot com or one eight hundred Progressive. I can't find
one person who thinks it's a bad idea that Major
League Baseball implemented a pitch clock and knocked off about
(36:56):
a half hour to each game.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's awesome.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
It's amazing. What's also funny, Like we went to half
a game the other week is people were coming in
as we were leaving it.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I was like, game is halfway over, dude, Like this
the whole thing's changed.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
I'm not sure if you've been to a game this season,
but it's it's basically halfway over at this point.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
If you show up twenty thirty minutes late. Used to
be I miss like, you know an inning inning and
half Bro, you're looking at the fourth inning like these
games are flying by it's awesome and you just you're
in and out. Burdo's in and out, he's parking.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Burdo said he's going to a lot more games lately. No,
I can't go to more games. It's stioll expensive. But
oh I still a little expensive. But with Burdo said
soon he'll be going to more games.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Nah, well, I.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Mean maybe yeah maybe.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
See if I did that, they had been departed.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Drop. If I did that, well happened.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I don't know nothing what But also if you have
a kid departed, drive okay calling me a rat?
Speaker 3 (37:57):
No what I said?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's what you said? Oh he talking dude on the.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Yoas Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup
in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports
Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR
to listen live.
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and myself,
LeVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays six
to nine am Eastern or three am to six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You can find your local station for the Two Pros.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And a Cup of Joe show over at Foxsports Radio
dot com, or stream us live every day on the
iHeartRadio app by searching fs R.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Parties.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sick you like Dennis Diitchy. I'm doing sixty down A
one whizy wizzy you down the avenue, bump that I
spunder you realize a hupcap talk about what's that Dublin's back? Yeah,
uh huh. Trust no one got thet to get the
(01:02):
radia in the Big Apple.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Skirt yay not skirt skirt Autumn Cherry Red, Cherry Red,
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks with You can hang
out with us as always on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across
the country and wherever the hell you are making us
a part of your Thursday morning. We appreciate you doing so.
We're gonna take you all the way up until nine
am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific, and we do it
all live from the tire rack dot Com studios tire
rack dot com. We'll help you get there an unmatched selection,
fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten
thousand recommended installers. Tire rack dot com. The way tire
(01:44):
buying should be.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
When we come our with our shop, we got to
have a shop man.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
We got.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
We got at least three or four T shirts we got.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
We have it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, Caroline, that'd be cool. I mean, arch like the
things we say is that we got to create a
merch store. We gotta and we got to do something
for like Saint Patti's Day and stuff like that, like
great next year. We just got to have build ups, man,
because the sure it needs to be a pac man,
Sure it does. I'm just saying that's kind of the first. Yeah,
(02:19):
I mean, I think that that's the most legendary part
of our show. Yea.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You know, there's also.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Or what about me?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Why do we say what about me?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I think I think people started writing.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
It's because of what we said, which is actually what
makes it better.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I think, Yeah, I like, what about I'll be honest.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
With you, not to get the business side of things,
but we probably could run with that quote that have
no legal issues.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, because we just jumbled to different parts of
the movie. Yeah, exact point. What about me past? Also,
if you if you want to know, if somebody is
a real listener to the program, if we made a
shirt that just said Burdo with a question mark, then
you would know they're talking about the racist drop Like
then you would know that's that's a heat check, Like
who's really all in on this show?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I feel like, yeah, I feel like that would that
would be fair.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So there's a lot a lot of opportunity for apparel
here on this show. There's gonna be a lot of
opportunity for smiles and laughs. Everybody's really really excited about
the Lamar Jackson contract with the Baltimore Ravens. They're going
to announce the press at the press conference. They're going
to make it official later on. Except Brady Quinn, You've
noticed that there's something missing from this, from this little
(03:39):
equation here involving Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens and
the contract.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
What's the problem here?
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Yeah, you guys know me like I like to kind
of dig into the details. You know, they as they
say that.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
The devil's in the details.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Yeah, so I'll usually try to go on spow track
or some of these other websites that do a good
job of getting the actual contract once it's filed with
the NFLPA. And how long has it been since they
announced the extension.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
A little over a week.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Yeah, it's not file. It's still not file with the
nfl PO, So that is that's usually it's kind of
interesting how that worked out.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
The other player who that most recently happened with was
was Jalen Hurts, So you know, and look, the truth
of the matter is it probably has a lot to
do with kind of agreeing to things verbally and then
getting things down, you know, and actual writing. The team,
I'm sure, as well as the agent are always so
(04:40):
you know, excited to be able to announce they've got
an agreement that they've got a deal in principle. Now
they just have to get down they have to get
it done in writing, right Cross their t's dot their eyes.
So sometimes that that prolongs, you know, this a little
bit as they iron out some of the various clauses
and some of the things that were negotiated, and they
go back and forth and they but what also happens
(05:03):
is what's reported doesn't always end up being.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Quite that accurate.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
So we'll see what We'll see what the contract looks
like once it's filed, once we're able to kind of
soar through it. But it's just kind of odd, you know,
that this is such a big deal, especially for Baltimore,
for Lamar everything else, and we're still yet to be
able to see any details from I'm wondering how long
this is going to drag on because this has actually
been one of the longer windows that I've seen, at
(05:31):
least as far as when a when a deal was
announced and then still not seeing the details of that contract.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
To look at that, a little bit of digging and
we find out that there could be something that isn't
all on the up and up with this deal.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Maybe I don't know that it's not all in the
up and up.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
It's just you know, the people who go to the
media first are the agents, and you know, they want
to throw out these total value of the contract average
annual salaries, which are basically about as valued as as
the toilet paper you use in the mornings or or shop. Yeah,
I'm just I'm saying those metrics to me are irrelevant
and we've gone through this before because they're not the
(06:09):
money that you get up front of the signing bonus.
They're not the guarantees at signing, which really is what
the team is on the hook for, or even the
probable you know, the total guarantees within the contract and
what you're probable to make in the first year or two.
So all those things are more important, and they're actually
the financial commitment the team is making to you. But
(06:29):
unfortunately we don't ever hear those numbers and will look,
we in the media are partially to blame. You know,
we're the ones that continue to keep you know, blowing
out of proportion contracts that aren't what the what they're
stated to be. You know, we put up graphics on
TV and on streaming services, we do all look at
this average annual vite, Oh my gosh, like it's well, okay,
(06:51):
they're never going to get to that back end of
the contract is we'll have to re you know, restructure
the contract to make it work.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
When did you guys first figure out that's how the
deal we're being done that it was all about fly
got screwed.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
In a in a in a contract. So yeah, that's.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Literally we had to agreed upon terms. And I was
talking to my agent. I was I was like, what
are the things you value most? He goes here and
back back then it was way more complicated, but he
basically said, look, signing bonus, total guarantee and signing and
then you know your your other you know, escalators at
that point in time that you're likely to make based
on playtime. And he's like, those are the only things
(07:31):
you can base you know, your contract off, because anything
past that it's all fluff. They'll probably come back to restructure,
renegotiat or extend and and then and at that point
moving forward, I was like, all right, well that's that's
what I'm gonna look at for contracts from here on out.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Then m I just dealt with I mean, my first
contracts were fine, rookie contract fine, restructurings fine. But when
I when that that last one in Washington had just
it was it was bad, you know, and it was
just all over one bonus, you know. And it's interesting that,
(08:04):
you know, the conversation points that Q points out because
there were literally five or six pages of errors within
my contract. Whether it was a typo, whether something was
was omitted from from the contract, whatever it may have been.
There were like several pages of you know, of seven
(08:28):
seven I remember this, uh, the details of it, but
I mean there were just errors that were in and
they needed to be corrected.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Who was that on the agent?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I mean, well, so so they they both certified it.
That's that's where the problem, the problem that took place
was we were in such a rush to get it
done based off of the circumstances that that were surrounding
getting the deal done. It was it was like right
up on the the deadline of submitting restructurings, are submitting
(09:07):
submitting contracts that would bring your cap number down. And
so I said I would do it because Champ Bailey
in which I found out later it wasn't Champ, it
was Washington, but it was told to me that it
was Champed that that backed out of doing the deal
at the last minute, and that he didn't want to
(09:30):
come back to Washington. So I was like, well, I'll
restruct your mind so that we can, you know, fix
our cap, you know, make sure the cap is good.
Da da da, y'all give me some more guarantees up front.
From my back end, like everything is cool, Like my
earning average was high, Like my contract was fine. I
didn't have to do anything for like three years or
(09:53):
so with my contract, but I did restructure it. And
then within the restructuring of it, one of my bonuses
was was not there. It was like not it wasn't there,
and and so now it became uh, Dan Snyder says
to me, just let the let the agents and the
(10:14):
attorneys handle it, like don't worry about it. I'm like,
all right, no problem. I ain't think nothing else of it.
And then it became this big thing because Dan Snyder's like, yeah,
we're not putting that that bonus is not going in there.
And it was a six point five million dollar bonus,
and and so I mean it should have been. They
(10:34):
signed off on it, like I don't know what what
the approach to it is now and what the process
of it is. The protocols of how you finish off
a contract how they're done now. But I mean that
was Gene Upshaw was still alive. He was still the
president of the Players Association at that time. It became
a big thing. I didn't even want it to become
(10:54):
public knowledge of what took place, but it became public
knowledge because the got involved and it just became this
ugly or deal. But I mean, I don't really recall
how the process wasn't, you know, kind of more safeguarding
my situation in that moment, because if you look at
what my average earning was yearly before I did the
(11:16):
deal and what it was after I did the deal,
it's very easy to see that something was wrong, you know.
But and they still kind of turned it into a
you know, my agent messed it up, he gets suspended.
But still in the end, I was the one that
was impacted by.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You mentioned that it became public. I've always thought that
was kind of strange that we know the details of
these contracts that they go public, Like I've always found
that weird, like, like why do we need to know that?
Why do we need to know every single detail of
every single contract.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I think that's one of the low key, more interesting
things when it comes to like whenever there's a labor dispute,
right where there's a threatening of, hey, no game is
going to be played because the collective bargaining agreement and
you know, you've get the owners are one side, billionaires, right,
and you get these you know, maybe millionaires on the
other side, which obviously the majority of the league is on.
(12:11):
I shouldn't say a majority, but it still takes a
while to accumulate to become a millionaire. People think that
like everyone's drafted in the NFL is a millionaire. That's
not the case. You know, league minimum is about half
million bucks right between agent fees, taking out tax, everything else.
That first season when you're playing on a rookie deal,
especially for guys who have any guarantees, any signing bonuses
(12:32):
incorporated in that, you know you're gonna make, you know,
after taxes, about quarter million bucks.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Great living.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Don't get me wrong, but there's a misconception as far
as how much NFL players are making as compared to
other professional sports or just in general. And so I
always find the interesting part is there's a labor dispute,
it fans immediately side with the owners. They immediately like
all these players.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Are being greedy.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
It's like, wait a second, these dudes are like potentially
risking their body long term to play a game they love,
they're fortunate to play and all that. Like every player
is gonna tell you that. But they're risking their body,
they're risking their mind the more that comes out in
regards to potential correlations to CTE and everything else. They
(13:21):
are putting themselves through that to earn a paycheck.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And yet somehow fans are find.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
The owners more relatable. They find the billionaires more relatable.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Because they can replace us. You don't replace that, you
don't replace the team.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I get that, but I also think it's because there's
transparency to what players make. If you saw the millions
of dollars that an organization makes, you'd probably look at
it a little bit different, Like you'd probably hold your
owner and your general manager other people who are involved
in the front of oppos side of things.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Because that's a secret too. Right.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
We don't know exactly what a head coach makes or
exactly what a general manager makes in the NFL, and
if you did, as a fan base, you probably start
holding them more accountable when things didn't work out, and
even your owner to that standpoint to know how much
his business is making. Now, that's not how the whole
thing's structure and all that, but I do think that
plays a role. Like if you saw, I mean, this
(14:25):
happens all the time. Where you get someone who gets
a balloon because they get fired because they run, you know,
whatever it is, whether it's a hedge fund or something else,
into the ground.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You get a bunch of people who just invest in.
They lost money, but yet this guy's getting thirty million
bucks in the way out. You're going, wait and wait
a second, like, how does this make sense?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Like there's no transparency with it, which is one of
the reasons why I've always felt like probably why fans
resort to looking at players and going, well, it's easy
to sit there and harp on that guy, or if
he doesn't have a good game, well I know what
he's making.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Well, yeah, you don't know what.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
The rest of the folks who are involved are making
on the other side of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's weird because if you go into a restaurant and
all of a sudden they raise the prices on the food,
you're not pissed off at the waiter. You're pissed off
at the owner of the restaurant, like, why are you
jacking up the prices on the food? If you went
to a game and paid whatever amount of money it
is for a beer and a hot dog or anything
else there, I'd love to know the percentage of that
money that goes to the player and what percentage goes
(15:26):
to the owner. You'll never know that. Yet when this
stuff happens, to your point, people take it out of
the players. It's like, man like, the players probably aren't
getting the bulk of the percentage off that.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Well, I could promise see this, the overall revenue splits,
not fifty to fifty it used to be, But the players'
union has given back those percentages over a period of
time since at least since Steve Mariray Smith has taken.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
What do you mean they have one of those negotiations
with the NFL owners that hasn't gone well for them.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's weird, but they can smoke weed at least, I
mean there is that. I mean, they did get that
out of the deal. So it is two pros and
a cup of joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. You can hang
out with us as always on the iHeartRadio app. All right,
it's coming up next. There was somebody who was drafted
last weekend in the NFL, and they have taken their
(16:16):
anger out on a member of this show's extended family,
and you're going to hear from that person next here
on FSR.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio App.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio coming up in about twenty minutes from now
here from those tiraq dot com studios. Just another example
of what one change has done to an entire sport.
It's yours again twenty minutes from now. But for right now,
we turn it over to the man himself. Here on
a Thursday. It is a tradition unlike any other. It
is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter at the NMMC. You
(17:00):
can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer, Big Al.
What's happening. How's your Thursday how is the sights and
sounds from the porch?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Good?
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Good good? I got uh, we've got we got some
leaves in the trees now, so everything's coming on.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Oh nice man, I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Right.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
How about that winner's almost over here?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You go to restart your streak today? You know, good, good,
strong signal.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I help, so I hoped. So we got off. It
was all touch and go there with we. Uh, I
had a love the statugy connections. So we had to
hang out.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
They call that right now, Albert, we got to get
to the bottom of this because this feels like a
little bit of friendly fire. So Dwan Jones, uh, he
was the draft pick of the Cleveland Browns, and he
took to Twitter yesterday because Brady's buddy Dove climb In,
who we think is artificial intelligence. We don't know that
that's actually a real person. But Dove Climbing noted that
(17:53):
there were some issues with Dwan Jones in the draft process,
telling teams he'd rather play in the NBA and the NFL.
He also, you know, attached you on the tweet and
said that there was questions about how he had handled
the Senior Bowl and his interviews pre draft et cetera,
et cetera. So Dwan Jones, fellow Buckeye, same with you
(18:15):
wrote false, like where do y'all get this information from?
So who was that directed at? Was that you were
AI's dove climbing.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Well, I guess it's kind of like in a gray area,
and Brady knows about this gray area where you say
something and then it sort of gets taken out of
context and blown out of proportion and then you're left
to answer for something that really lacks the sort of
nuance and what you were trying to say. So basically,
you know, there was a few different things that happened
(18:46):
with them on Jones over the pre draft process. One
was he had one great day at the Senior Bowl,
social media went crazy over it, and then he sort
of packed it in from there. Now he said he
was injured. There were teams that question that. Then you
go to the Combine. He had put on I think
six or seven towns between the Senior Bowl of the Combine,
and then it is to day he chose not to
(19:06):
weigh in, which got a real reaction from NFL team.
So there were questions about how seriously he was taking
the free draft process, which matched up with some things
as a reputation at Ohio State, and then as part
of like interviewing with teams, what happened? You know, they
ask you all kinds of questions. He's a former basketball player,
so he told teams that he had dreamed of playing
(19:29):
in the NBA, not the NFL. And I'm not saying
that was his dream right now, but you know it
had been his dream in the past. And so you know,
you add all this stuff up and I think you
guys know where this goes for NFL teams, it's all right.
So he's got a motivation problem, away problem, and we
don't know if he really loves football, and that's sort
of I think why he fell to the fourth round.
(19:51):
And I think the Browns did great to get him
where they got him, because he's an immense talent. But
it was sort of a piece to this puzzle that
teams were putting together there in questioning you know what
this guy's going to look like two three years from now.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Right, which I mean again, it's so funny to me
the things that people pick and.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Choose to respond to.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, which I remember there was a there's a quarterback,
and I remember a quarterback coach in the NFL telling
me this, but he had said in a meeting like, yeah,
I want to be a doctor. Like I'm gonna give
the whole NFL thing a try and things don't work out,
I want to be a doctor.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And the quarterback coach was like rubbed the wrong way by.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
It, and I'm like, yeah, I'm listening to it, going
hold on, the guy wants to be a doctor one
day and he's waiting to see how things work out
in the NFL, and if they don't, you're gonna hold
that against him, Like how much does he really love football?
Because supposed to be a doctor. I mean, the reality is,
you know, coaches, scouts, people within organizations, they hear things
(20:49):
and they're like, well, if he's not desperate to play football,
he must not really love football. And you're like, well,
how many guys in the NFL do desperately love football?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I mean, you know, saying like I feel like that's
one of the things that.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Gets so overblown, not only from the scouting standpoint, but
even just like when people are like, oh, a lot
of guys do it for the paycheck.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That and that's not.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
That's the worst thing in the world, because like they're
incentivized to go out there to do you the job
and play well, that's just that's probably a lot of
people out there listening right now, Albert, who've got jobs
who don't like their job, but their incentivized to do
it because their paycheck.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Is it not right?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
No?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
And I agree, And I think like part of it is,
like it's like, so you know, I obviously, like I
covered the Patriots coming up, so I was around Belichick
and those guys, and a lot of what Belichick and
those guys built was you know, kind of based off
of what Belichick learned from Parcels. And there's that term
football character, right, and a lot of the guys in
(21:48):
that Patriot building would define football character as he needs
his next snap of football the same way he needs
his next breath of air, you know what I mean,
Like he needs football. And I know, like with a
lot of these people, like they felt like the best
way to build teams was guys who are obsessed with
it because that's how you build a quote unquote culture.
(22:10):
And so, you know, I think that's certainly part of it, Brady,
is that, like you have people who had to scrap
and fight and it took everything they you know, could,
everything they had to make it to the NFL, And
so like their entire life is based on that and
they're going to do everything they possibly can to hold
on to it. I think with somebody like Dwan Jones
sort of the flip side of it, where it's like,
(22:33):
how how motivated is this guy going to be to
make it? You know what I mean? Like, how like
if this guy's having trouble keeping his weight under three eighty,
let's say before the like through the biggest job interview
of his life, Like, how is he going to do that,
you know, in the second third year of his contract?
If we give him a second contract, how is he
(22:55):
going to stay motivated through that? Like That's really what
it is.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I get that.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I think there's also an element of the like he's
probably been the biggest human being than most people have
ever seen, like basically his entire life. And I also
feel like when you're he's super talented, he's super big,
Like I was shocked too that he drafted you got
drafted where he did. But there also has to be
an element of like doesn't that kind of come with
like being the type of guy like that always has
(23:22):
had an advantage over every single person he went up against. Like,
has there ever been a d end or anyone he's
gone up against that's been bigger than him? I'm gonna
I'm gonna venturely say no, nor will there although there
ever be in the NFL, Like I think in some ways,
like that's that's what's challenging, is when you've got something
that's bigger than you and you've got to take that
on and beat it. I don't know that he's ever
gonna face that, which is probably just a byproduct of
(23:44):
of how he's always you know, how he was born,
how he's you know, grown up and everything else. Like,
but I don't know that it needs to be like
a sticking point, does it.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
It just depends, you know what I mean? Because like
it's like the schoolyard bullies thing, right, Like it's like
if nine times out of ten you've won the fight
when you get off the bus, how are you going
to react when that's not the dynamic that you're living
in anymore? Right? Like I mean, if you're somebody who's
that townented, it's like, you know, it's like that, It's
like the old Mike Tyson. Mind, everybody's got a plan
(24:15):
til I get punched in the face, right Like, So
you know, you know if if ninety percent of the time,
you know, in college and one hundred percent of the
time in high school, you know, he was facing somebody
who had no chance against him and he didn't have
to do all the extra little things to make it work.
But you know, what, what's that going to look like
when maybe he has a physical advantage over somebody fifty
(24:38):
percent of the time, you know, And I think it's
a fair I think that part of it's there, you know,
I think that part of it's there, And it's you know,
how motivated is he going to be to keep going?
And you know, I think a huge part of this, Brady,
and you know this and LaVar you went through it
like I you know, for all these guys, it's like,
this is the biggest job interview of your life. You
have three or four months to put your best foot
(25:00):
forward and show NFL people who you are. And you know,
I think like that was sort of where Dewan Jones
stubbed his toe A bunch is like, well, all right,
like why didn't you weigh in at your pro day? Like,
that's a real red flag, especially after you gained whatever
was six or seven pounds between the Senior Bowl and
the Combine. That's only like three or four weeks between
(25:21):
the Senior Bowl and the Combine, Right, So, like, I
think there are fair questions there, and that was the
only thing I was sort of getting at. And I
think the NBA thing, you know, somebody plucks that out
of there. It's like, well, like you know, he wants
to play in the NBA and at the NFL. It's
not what I was saying. It was sort of more
this is what he was telling teams, and it was
kind of seen as a red flag, and that like
(25:43):
is this guy going to stay motivated as a football
player when he couldn't even get himself where he needed
to be, you know again over the biggest job interviewed
his life?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, which is a fair question. Let me you said
you were covering the Patriots. What what's the latest with
with mac Jones? I mean, how how is this going
to end?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
It?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Are the trade talks still continuing or are they dwindling
a little bit? Like we know that Belichick came out
and denied it. They had an opportunity to draft a quarterback.
They didn't draft a quarterback. What is really going on
from your perspective with Mac Jones and none of them?
Speaker 7 (26:22):
You know, LeVar, it's funny and we just talked about
that whole you know, the old school way of looking
at things, and you know, how how they motivate in
the program like that, And you know, I think part
of this is sort of knocking him back down and
trying to break him down and build him back up.
And you know, I think to some of these you
(26:43):
can compare it to and I feel like we're calling
him back into the eighties a lot here. But like
the way Bill barselves brought Phil Simms along when he
was a young quarterback, and even like the way that
Belichick and Brady interacted when Brady was younger. You know,
I think a lot of things went wrong last year. Obviously,
the coaching staff was very, very sideways, and the way
(27:04):
that I think was set up was unconventional, to put
it nicely, and you know, I think the Bill's feeling
was you know, even with all that accounted for, Mac
didn't react well, and Mac didn't handle it well, and
like there are bigger problems within the locker room because
the quarterback didn't handle it well. So, you know, I
(27:25):
think basically what this whole offseason has been has been
Bill sending a message like you're gonna have to earn
this back now, you know. And I do think he's
going to be their starting quarterback in Week one, and
I do think having Bill O'Brien there is really going
to benefit him. And I think Max's got a chance
to be a good quarterback. Do I think he's gonna
be a great quarterback in the NFL. I don't know
if he's a physical capacity for that, but we've seen
(27:45):
him play well, so you know, I think that really
that's what this offseason has been about, is breaking him
down and building him back up. And you know, I think,
you know, it's sort of set up in a way
where Belichick's someone breaking him down, and I think O'Brien's
going to be the one to build him back up.
And we'll see where it goes. But I do think
like they're going to get Bailey's Happy chances to take
the job from him, and I don't think Bailey's Appy
(28:07):
is going to take the job from him, But I
do think that all of this is sort of aimed
at at trying to get more out of mac Jones
than they got out of them last year.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Albert Breer, you can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer.
He's a senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. Joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Albert. Last one for me,
I saw you vent a little bit about college football's
twelve team playoff schedule coming up. I mean, what's your
big issue with the sport that we all know and love?
And for some reason I had to air it out
on social media.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
I mean, well, I don't want to. I just don't understand,
Like do these boll executives have like pictures of people
or something like It's unbelievable. I like, the quarterfinals now
are going to be at Bull Sites. When I think
one of the greatest things that college football has going
for it is the game day atmosphere right in all
these places in South End and Columbus and ann Arbor
(28:58):
and State College and Aymesville and Tuscal loose to all
these places like it does. The greatest natural resource that
one of the greatest natural resources of college football has
is the atmosphere around its games and everything that goes
on or goes on on campus on game day, and
you know, I understand the semi finals and the finals
(29:19):
being a neutral site. That totally makes sense. I don't
know how it helps anybody to have the quarterfinals and
neutral sites. Like I it doesn't help alumni who aren't
going to travel three straight weeks for games. It doesn't
help the players who are constantly having to be on
the road. And I mean, honestly, like I think it's
sort of like, what does it do for the bowl games?
You know, at the end of the day, I mean,
(29:39):
it makes some money. I guess that's the point of
the whole thing, right, But if you look at it,
if you look at it though, like I mean, this
is correct me if I'm wrong here, and you guys
might have the interest. This is like the death of
the Rose Bowl team Big ten TAC twelve, right.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Right, I mean yes and no, obviously depending on now,
if they wanted to orchestrate it in a way in
which you could have a Big ten PAT twelve representative,
I would say the death of the Rose Bowl more
was born out of the fact that the PAC twelve
may not be in existence as we know it, So
that would probably that would probably be the first thing
(30:17):
Albert that actually is the death of the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
In regards to the Big ten PAC twelve.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Brady, Brady, I just wanted to see one time the
USC or UCLA representing.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
I guess there's a very good chance.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
There's a very good chance that could happen.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Let me say this though, in defense of the first system,
or at least the way it's put out there is
it is interesting, like you know, you you bring up
the point of a fan is going to have to
go to a neutral site, Well they.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Might have to do that anyway.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Like if you're a wildcard team in the NFL, your
team goes on a run and you want to do
the games, you've.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Got to buy a ticket anyway. So that's kind of
always existed.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
And I don't know about you, but I would be
much more apt to go to a nice destination where
a lot of these Bowl games are to go watch
that game, as opposed to I don't know any other
city that might be tough to travel to because of
weather at that point in time in the year. I
think there's a lot of ancillary benefits that outside of
just the Bowl making money.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I think there's a lot of.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Benefits not only for the player, the way they're treated,
et cetera. Where it makes sense the way it is
and by the way, this thing could continue to expand.
Who knows, if it's just going to stay at twelve,
it could go to sixteen. There might be more of
an opportunity to have more you know, first round games
on campuses and so forth.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Yeah, I just like, I like, I don't know, I
feel like even the semifinals now, all right, So like
for me, like obviously, like somebody my age, I've got kids,
I've got a job, all that. Like, if Ohio State
had made it to the championship game like last year,
I would have gone, right, I would have gone to
LA for the championship game. I couldn't. I couldn't make
(31:51):
it work going to the semifinal and the in the final, right,
But there were a lot of like Ohio State people
in Atlanta that went to that game. I think, like Gan,
I just think asking people to go to three straight
rounds or getting enough alumni.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
How's that any different from March Madness?
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Well, have you ever been to like the first couple
of rounds of March Madness?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, but I'm saying but.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I mean, people met the same logic if you're following
your team to a national championship in college basketball, I.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Know, no, it is the same. But like if you
go to those first and second round games right March madness.
Now they've gotten smarter about putting them in places where
like fans of certain teams can get to, right, But like,
I mean there are I've seen it before. I think
I've been to those games, Like I covered a few
of those when I was younger, where the arena is
like twenty five, like there's nobody at them, you know
(32:42):
what I mean, Like and it's just you know, basically
like the arena is a television set, you know what
I mean. And we don't notice that on TV because
they have wasted the manipulate and everything else. I mean,
I'm not saying you'd have that in football for like
a quarterfinal game, but I mean it's say like that,
but those quarterfinals are what are those? Are those gonna
(33:03):
be over New Year's Is that right?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Uh? No, I think it's a week before. I think
it's like the twentieth or something like that, like Christmas.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Yeah, right, I just don't know, like like it's again,
like I just like getting people into the stadium where
it's not just a completely like flat corporate crowd for
those games, I think it's gonna be borderline impossible. And
that's why I think, like at least if you put
them on campus, half of the that matchup, like half
(33:32):
of the fans of that of the two teams in
that matchup have great access to the game, which means
you're going to give that game atmosphere and you're also
gonna brilliant You're.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
You're assuming that. But but there's a lot of students
who are already home for winter break.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
But there's still people in those cities that are going
to go you know what I.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Mean college, Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I mean not everywhere's like Columbus, Ohio, buddy. You go
to some of these other schools, like they've got a community.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
But where you went to school, Like like there's how
many you just made to drive from Chicago, you know
at their time?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, if Notre Dame's playing, yeah, of course.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
But like I'm saying, you're not going to get that
away crowd and you're not gonna have a student body
because even then, you know, maybe your student section stays around,
but there's a lot of who are going to be
going home.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Well, well, we've got some time to discuss this for
the weekend. We're up against at Albert So we apologize.
By the way, the quarterfinals are New Year's even New
Year's Day that's being reported on by lead to lap so,
but Albert, we appreciate it again. Sorry about that. We're
up against Matt Albert Brere on Twitter and we'll do
it again next Thursday.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
There he is, all right, my phone made it too.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, hell yeah, it has begun. Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up
next though, we are going to have a highlight about
why one sport made a change it desperately needed to
do a long time ago. Here on FSR.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Pally Fusco here with Dony Fusco. Of course, you know
us as the host of the number one rated Polly
and Tony.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Fusco show world Right now, we all.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
Know you sick and tired of these stupid sports shows
where the hosts say stupid things like Tom Brady's the
goat or Lebron James is good at basketball, which he
is clearly not.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
See, we give you smart takes.
Speaker 9 (35:21):
Yeah, and we also bring on so called famous guests
from across the sports world and show them why we
know much.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
More than they built.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
You're off the show.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
Listen to the Folly and Tony Fusco Show on the
iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Two pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. So
coming up top of next hour, we are going to
get into the details on why somebody in the National
Football League decided to call it quit. We'll get into
that for you here again a little over ten minutes
from now from the tire rack dot Com studios. But
right now it is time for the progressive play of
(36:02):
the day.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Bunsie with a fly ball.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
All right, there's gonna be a walk off, brand slam
over the small walling right. A big celebration awaits Bunsie
rounding third. His team is now gonna pound them events.
The Dodgers trailed five to nothing after two and a
half at Muncie with the brand slam off, Kimbrol and
(36:30):
the Dodgers have won six consecutive games.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Wow, that is courtesy of the blowtorch. AM five to
seventy LA Sports on the call. That is the progressive
play of the day. Progressive is making things even easier.
They will help you bundle your home and car insurance
together so he can save on both. Learn more Progressive
dot com or one eight hundred Progressive. I can't find
one person who thinks it's a bad idea that Major
League Baseball implemented a pitch clock and knocked off about
(36:56):
a half hour to each game.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's awesome.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
It's amazing. What's also funny, Like we went to half
a game the other week is people were coming in
as we were leaving it.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I was like, game is halfway over, dude, Like this
the whole thing's changed.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
I'm not sure if you've been to a game this season,
but it's it's basically halfway over at this point.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
If you show up twenty thirty minutes late. Used to
be I miss like, you know an inning inning and
half Bro, you're looking at the fourth inning like these
games are flying by it's awesome and you just you're
in and out. Burdo's in and out, he's parking.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Burdo said he's going to a lot more games lately. No,
I can't go to more games. It's stioll expensive. But
oh I still a little expensive. But with Burdo said
soon he'll be going to more games.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Nah, well, I.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Mean maybe yeah maybe.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
See if I did that, they had been departed.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Drop. If I did that, well happened.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I don't know nothing what But also if you have
a kid departed, drive okay calling me a rat?
Speaker 3 (37:57):
No what I said?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's what you said? Oh he talking dude on the.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Yoas Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup
in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports
Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR
to listen live.
Hosts And Creators
Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
Popular Podcasts
True Crime Tonight
If you eat, sleep, and breathe true crime, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT is serving up your nightly fix. Five nights a week, KT STUDIOS & iHEART RADIO invite listeners to pull up a seat for an unfiltered look at the biggest cases making headlines, celebrity scandals, and the trials everyone is watching. With a mix of expert analysis, hot takes, and listener call-ins, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT goes beyond the headlines to uncover the twists, turns, and unanswered questions that keep us all obsessed—because, at TRUE CRIME TONIGHT, there’s a seat for everyone. Whether breaking down crime scene forensics, scrutinizing serial killers, or debating the most binge-worthy true crime docs, True Crime Tonight is the fresh, fast-paced, and slightly addictive home for true crime lovers.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.