October 26, 2023 • 40 mins
The Browns will roll with PJ Walker at quarterback while Deshaun Watson continues to rehab. Jim Irsay wants all calls to be reviewable in the final two minutes and the guys preview Bucs at Bills on “Over/Unders.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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we've got a Deshaun Watson update. If anybody's interesting, I.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Mean, did you need an update or did you already?
Were you looking for confirmation? Well?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Who knows, man, it's what is the update? As the
world turns?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, I mean, don't listen, Let's be careful on how
we you know, present this as well. You don't want
to say anything the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What could happen.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
The goons come out for you start telling you wait
till I see you in person, stuff like that. So
just make sure it's positive whatever it is, keep it
above board.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
With How would that play out? Like he approaches somebody
on the set of Big Neon Kickoff and next thing
you know, Dave Coelo puts him in a dars choke.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, there's there's security on side, there's big I know.
Some interesting thing is like how do you say, like,
wait till I see it? But then you're like, yeah,
I saw you, Like well wait a second, I just
saw you just so I don't know, you know what.
It was a little bit interesting too, is like you know,
offically doctor chow O the doctors want to chime in now,
(02:10):
even without examining uh Deshaun, they would like to give
their medical opinion on that. I've never understood. I understand
like trying to peel back the layers of you know,
wanted to provide medical information about players, But I also
feel like it's a risky proposition. Like as a doctor,
I think most doctors would say outside of providing, you know,
(02:31):
the typical like, hey, this is what is being reported
as the injury. This is the issue. You got to
be careful because you don't have hands on with that
particular patient. You have no idea the specifics to the
injury outside of what's being reported. You're not a part
of any sort of imaging and all that. So I
do find it interesting that, like people have made a
business out of it, yet if we're being real with it,
(02:54):
no one in their right mind would ever listen to
a doctor that hasn't seen them personally. So I do
find it interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Or analyst at that, you know what I mean, like
people giving opinions and and here's my opinion, he don't
want to play.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
They don't want to play. Well, yeah, like and that
and look there was also remember when Gino Smith suffered
the ankle sprain. I think it was on Monday night fight.
I think it was against the Giants, and there were
some people on some you know, medical experts who saw
the injury and said, oh, yeah, that's a high ankle sprain.
He won't be back. He came back that same game,
like he missed a little bit of time, but he
came back and they ended up winning the game. So
(03:33):
I don't know how you from you know, the couch,
can diagnose what's what's going on with somebody's body. But
Kevin Stefanski, the head coach of the Cleveland Browns, he
did talk with the media yesterday. He gave the announcement
on the decision at quarterback for the Cleveland Browns and
just what his conversations have been like with Deshaw Watson.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
PJ is going to start this week. Deshaun's going to
focus on his rehab. I just feel like with what
happened in the game on his shoulder, there's residual swelling
that's affecting his throwing. I think it's the best thing
for him to rest this week and focus on the rehab.
And you know, as I've told you, guys. I will
always make what I think are the best decisions for
(04:16):
our football team for Deshaun, and I feel like this
is the best decision for this week. I talked to
DeShawn every day. Like I mentioned to you, guys, it's
he wants to play very badly. He also knows that
that rehab is the decision this week. But he's gonna
do everything he can to support his teammates. You know,
he's a captain of the team. He provides great leadership.
(04:37):
So he wants very badly to play, but just this
week makes sense to focus on the rehab.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
All right, all right, so it doesn't sound bad, Okay.
So he was cleared to play, and he didn't play
a couple of weeks ago. Then there was a buye,
then he didn't play again after the bye. Then he
played but was pulled from the game out of cap
should and they did an MRI. His shoulder was not
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damaged in playing, yet he's still not playing. He doesn't
want to play like that, Like that's that's the way
I look at this. They're like, how many times can
you be medically cleared and not play without somebody just
saying the obvious, Like you did LaVar. He doesn't want
to play like you know.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I just I feel like he's gotten comfortable with not
completing seasons. And that's a thing. I mean, I'm just
being honest with you when you had again, I said
this on on on one of my podcast entries. I've
never been well, you know, I didn't seedlessly plug like you.
(05:45):
But I may mention of the fact that, like you
work your entire life like he's, he has a very
very humble beginning. I mean so much so to the
point of, if you know his story, at one point
he was homeless. You know, he's one of the families
that work done, you know by them home a home.
If you're working your entire life to be able to
(06:09):
create some just life stability, you know, it's not even
it's like, yeah, you want to get a job. You're
not going to be financially all the way stable. You're
going to live check to check, but you know what,
you have stability in your life, let alone if you
work hard in life and you end up making it
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to a situation where you're guaranteed the amount of money
that he has and by the way, the amount of
money that he had before he even got to that
contract was a large contract, So I can only imagine
the amount of experiences and the things that's he's done
during the times where he's not playing. And that's a
(06:52):
very like when I tell you it's a very real thing.
That's a very real thing. When you have the type
of financial resources at that level, the things that you do,
the access you have to two different things, and it
almost it almost takes away that drive or that hunger.
(07:13):
And people say, oh, no, no that's not that's overblown. No, no,
you're you're a player, and you want to know. You
can lose the desire to want to go in to
work every day, You can lose the will to to
really really want to compete. You might in your mind
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think you want to, but there's a part of you
that's sitting there saying, I don't feel like getting up
and going in today, and you know what, why should I?
You know, I just you know, and then that when
that happens, injuries hurt more, everything hurts, more, meetings are longer.
I was there, I was at that point my last
year in the league I started, I was dealing with injuries.
(07:55):
I was there, you know, and you just start to
lose your your kind of your focus, say in on
it and your your passion for and you then ultimately
to love leaves. Do you see love in Deshaun Watson's
face and his actions when you see him on the field.
It looks like a totally detached dude, is what it
looks like to me.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I mean, I'll say this though, like for people who
have a ton of money, they'll also tell you, like,
having money doesn't solve all your problems either.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It creates a more decent amount of stress.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, mo, money more problems. Look, in this case, the
thing that it's hard to understand is and this is
this is where people, I think took issue with what
I said. I've never once questioned Deshaun Watson's toughness. He's
played through injuries before. It's why it's probably more surprising
that he's not playing at this point like he's playing
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through it toward a c L. So no one's questioning
is toughness or is competitiveness. And it's what makes this
whole thing a little more perplexing. And I understand the
injury to the road cuff because I've had a post
terol libermterre, I've had torn Carlage in. My ribs got
shot up, got my shoulder shot up, played through it,
(09:09):
been there like had Liz Frank injury, played through it,
finished the game, broke my right index finger, tried to
play through it, try to start the next week in Cleveland,
they literally took me out at half and they say, hey,
ball's not coming off your hand, right, I think you
eat surgery Like, been there, done that. No one's questioning
(09:30):
is toughness or competitiveness. At least, I'm not questioning his competitiveness.
It's more about the timeline of what they've given out
when they said four to six weeks. Well, the initial
injury happened back in what September twenty fourth, twenty second,
Well that was what Thursday because they played the Titans
of the twenty fourth.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Who knows at this point, Yes, well.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
No, I'm telling you for a fact, Yeah it was that.
No one knows it was actually they played the Titans
on the twenty fourth.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I believe I think it's the twenty fourth. Yeah, you know,
I think it was on the twenty fourth that they played.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
But the point is is now we are a month
after that, and so I don't know if like the
rehab clock restarts because he played last week and when
he got knocked down on the interception, they said he
fell on his shoulder. It looked like he hit his head. Honestly,
I thought it was more concussion related because he did,
I believe get checked out for that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I'm with it looked like he hit his head. Yeah,
and that's what we're talking about, all right, clear concussions
like but now it's the shoulder like it was if
you recall, that's what Deshaun Watts. Deshaun Watson addressed his shoulder.
He didn't even address the concussion.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Right, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So my point is, does that restart the clock for
what's going on with his shoulder, because otherwise, like you're
in that window, would he based on all our medical
experts that haven't examined him that want to chime in,
that's say you should be back by now. So I
don't know, man, It's it's to the point where as
again I think for Browns fans out there, you're watching
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a team that sits at four and two. They can
make a run. They can be a team that competes,
I think for an AFC championship if they get I
guess at this point, PJ. Walker playing a little better,
right if he starts to pick things up, takes care
of the football, the way they're running the football, their defense,
the way they're playing like they're gonna have a shot.
So I mean, at this point, I'm kind of just
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moving on to all right, like what do we got
this week? If I'm a Browns fan Brown's player, who
do we got this week? And who do we have
healthy that we're able to you know, put out there.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's all that matters. Just the part that still just
doesn't make sense to me. And you know, he gets clear,
they're saying no further damage. He got another MRI this week,
as we laid out. But you know, Adam Schefter has
got you know this, you know, more clarity on Deshaun's injuries.
It told him he's got, you know, this strain of
you know whatever the it is a you know four
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to six weeks. Okay, Well, if there's been no other
further damage to it, and that was the injury at
the four to six week mark, why didn't you just
put them on IR. Had they put him on IR,
there just wouldn't have been any questions, Like there wouldn't
have been any Okay, he's on iri, he's going to
miss this amount of time. It's just the week by
week approach when you knew it wasn't a week by
week injury. After the fact, none of it adds sent.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
They're still supportive, I mean hearing the hey coach speak on,
there's still supportive of them.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
He has to be, doesn't he.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
No, he doesn't have to be. He doesn't have to be,
but he still is. And I'm just curious how long
this plays out. Well, I mean you're out on Sunday, Okay,
you've been continuously missing games or coming out of the game.
I mean you only played a quarter. You didn't even
play a quarter.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
If you're let me ask you guys this, because both
you guys are ultra competitive and have played through a lot.
If your coach pulled you aside and said, hey, I
know you're cleared, I know medically you can go out
and play, but I'm making this decision to pull you
out of this game and you're not going to play
this week, you would fight him on.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I would want to understand why. I would feel like
there's an ulterior motive if that were the case, Like
I'm not I'm not the player that I think I am.
If a coach is unless he can explain to me
the significance of the reason why you're holding me out,
that's that's that's how I would handle it, like cause,
(13:20):
if you know me as a player, if you if
you coached me as a player, that's not even something
that you're going to You're not even going to come
to me with that. You understand what I'm saying, Like,
you're not going to come like LeVar, we know you're healthy,
we know you're cleared to play, we know you're practicing,
but you know what, like, we're just we're going to
hold you out this game, Like preseason that might be it,
(13:43):
but a regular season game. I mean, why would you
even approach someone of my caliber with something of that buffoonery?
It just do It wouldn't make sense. So I wouldn't
know how to handle it because it's not something that
I would be faced with.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I think the other side out of this conversation, though,
is it'd be one thing if they were a team
that was struggling, but they're not, like they're they're winning
with without him being there. And I think that also
lends you to think well, maybe they can be more
patient with it. Like maybe Kevin Stefanski would be like, hey, dude,
we need to we needed to go in there because
we don't right now, we're not winning. If we want
(14:20):
to have a shot, we've we've got to We've got
to have you in there. We've got to have a
shot of ubile. He's playing even though you're one hundred
percent whatever percentage, your is better than the alternative, but
that's not the position there. They're they're winning even without them,
So maybe they feel like they can be more patient,
you know, with allowing him to get back to one
hundred percent and when he feels like he's one hundred
(14:41):
percent to get back out there and play. There's also
that side of.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Possible, and that's very possible. I just think if you're
in a if we're in a conversation where the debate
is talking to Deshaun Watson and seeing if he wants
to go, or leading with him or reasoning with him
about going, you're already in the wrong place. Like I've
(15:07):
heard of holding guys back in spite of themselves. I've
never really outside of the guys who have checked out
where a coach or there And here's another thing you
got to think about. I mean, maybe I'm negligent on
all of the information, but I haven't seen any other
players come out and have anything to say about it.
(15:28):
And and to me, when a guy is under fire,
I mean, who.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Needs players when you got throwing coaches? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, when that's I guess that's true. You know, no,
that's not true at all. When your players say, you
know what, like Deshaun needs this time, or you know,
we got Deshaun until it gets back, or anything like
just any type of show of public support in the
media as it applies to your fellow man, you know
that there's a level of respect there, like you're not
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really hearing anybody say anything about him, which it almost
feels like they're probably unconcerned, they're unbothered by the fact
that he's not playing. And I say, I may mention
of this last week. The worst thing that could ever happen,
and that is, if you're still into being someone in
your locker room and on the field with your team,
the worst thing you could ever do is allow your
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teammates to lose respect for who you are and lose
the belief in the fact that we need you with
us to be able to win. If they continue to
win without him, when he comes back, they're still looking
at him kind of like, well, we've been winning without you.
It's still You're going to be looked at a little
bit differently if the circumstances aren't on the up and up. Now,
(16:40):
if he's really injured, that's different. But if you get
that feeling that he's detached and he's not a part
of us, and you know he's not part of the
program the way that he's supposed to be, that could
be a difficult challenge. That could be a challenge that
Stefanski's going to have to make sure he's looking at,
monitoring and managing possibly well.
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Speaker 3 (18:00):
To see how I did this week. Honestly, come on,
shake your head yes or not.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't give away the good.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Just give me a yes or no.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
You're gonna have to wait and see, buddy.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, geez, but he shook his head no when he
said it.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I did not shake anywhere I saw.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Damn all right, So we do have somebody who's got
an idea in the NFL. Jim Mersey was upset about
the final. He was upset about the the final. Uh.
You know, a couple of the calls late in that game.
You know, he was not happy about, you know, some
of the things that went against the Indianapolis Colts. Uh.
(18:40):
And he had a point. I mean, there was there
was a call in the end zone which was a
terrible call and the call stood.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And then do owners get fine for public criticism of
the of the referees because players do?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't think so. Yeah, coaches ca Okay. I was curious,
has it ever happened? Has anybody ever warn itt?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I know, like Mark Cuban in the NBA gets it
all the time, But I'm trying to think in the NFL.
Has anybody in the NFL gotten it? I was just curious.
I don't know what about Little Danny? You ever criticized official?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't even remember that, dude. I talked to them yesterday.
They've been calling me since twenty one. We had a
great conversation for the first time. Shouts out to Tim
hot Tower, man, he's assistant dude, Man, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What do they want? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Anyway, let's talk about let's let's keep let's keep where
we're at. What are we talking about here? What are
we looking at?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Here? Is Jim Mersey is Laar Arrington getting a statue
outside RFK Stadium? Yeah you know what, I am outside
right outside RFK. Awesome. Yeah, thank you man. I appreciate that.
That's cool, all right.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So Jim Mersay, yeah, I mean, you know he was
publicly critical of Dan Snyder back in the day.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
You know, when Dan Snyder on the team.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Me let me ask you guys a question if there
is a critical missed call earlier in the game. I mean,
it's like, don't you guys feel like the biggest issue
here is slowing up the game and the amount of
time it would take with all of these reviews. Like
I just feel like, if you're saying in the last
(20:22):
two minutes of the game, every every call should be
reviewed or whatever, whatever, how do you say?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So the specific wording on this is Jim Mersey said,
quote the NFL admits and understands that they did not
make the correct calls at the end of Sunday's Coach
Browns game. I believe we need to institute instant replay
for all calls, including penalties in the last two minutes
of all games.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I mean, doesn't that become time consuming? I don't care,
get it right, doesn't bother me at all. I got
nowhere to go, I know, but it's a TV show.
You got time slots in your TV show.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think if they wanted to, they could look at
how the college football game utilizes instant replay. The hard
part is is two things control where if you look
at the instant replay review process in college it's done
there on site. You have a couple of officials that
are your replay officials, and they're the ones that are
tasked with doing that. That then takes away power from
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the New York office right where everything goes back to
that one central command center. That's the first thing. And
the second thing would be it'd be a protocol or
it would be a process that would be different than
what they're doing now. And for whatever reason, I never
understand this because there's two things that stand out to
me right now, Like, the college football review process is
(21:45):
much faster and efficient and better, yet the NFL won't
adopt it. And then we're seeing this whole Michigan debacle
with sign stealing. And now finally coaches are like yeah,
I don't know why we don't have coach the quarterbacks
and the helmets. It's like, well, no idea why college football,
which has the funds has the ability to do so,
doesn't just put radio system to the helmet and it
(22:07):
clears all that up. But it's there's like, for whatever reason,
the NFL and college football, there's certain things where they're like, no,
this is how it's been, that's how it's going to be.
We're not doing that NFL stuff. In the NFL, they're like, nah,
we're not doing that college football stuff down there. Like that.
Both sides like just for whatever reason won't say, you
(22:28):
know what, college football is pretty much like the minor
league system for the NFL, maybe we should have the
rules the exact same way. Now that being said, like
if you look at Major League Baseball has a minor
league system. Major League Baseball there's oftentimes rules that are
like tried out in the minor league system that are
then brought up or adopted at the major league level,
(22:50):
And you could do similar things with the NFL and
college football. Even though there's not a direct relationship in
regards to the quote unquote minor league you know, direction
or funnel to the Major League. So it's just it's
so funny to me that we'll get people who complain
about it. Yet it comes round with the Competition Committee
and they just take these odd stances on why they
(23:12):
don't want to implement replay in a way that's been
effective and an efficient for that matter. When it comes
to TV.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It's just if we've got the ability to do it,
I don't know why we don't do it, And and
just the whole time consuming thing. I don't buy it, man.
I actually I think a lot of that when you're
slowing it down and showing frame by frame how something looks,
if anything that's keeping viewers, and if you need to
keep it you know, you know, run an ad on
the bottom or doing you know, in in game commercial
(23:41):
or something like that to keep the advertisers happy, whatever
it takes. Just get the call right, Like there's too
many things on the line most importantly, and forget about
like players legacies and wins and coaches wins and jobs
and all that gambling, like that's the most important part
of all this stuff. Like there's yeah, I forget about
the rest of it. Who cares about that stuff?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
It's about gambling, the difference in between you losing, yes,
like if.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You had Colts on the money line in that game.
Like you're looking around going wait a second here, like
we just got jobbed on an awful call, like we
got screwed on this, which leads to other conversations, right, yes, yeah,
I just I'm I'm with it. Jim mersys a bit
of a wild child. He's you know, he says a
lot of things that are way over the top, you know,
you know, talking about you know, him being dead and
(24:28):
Jonathan Taylor being out of the league. Nobody would care
a little bit suspect, But this one, I'm totally in
for everything reviewable final two minutes of the game, let's go.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It does beg the question, though, why wouldn't you make
irreviewable throughout the course of the game.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Too, I mean, like only last two minutes perfect.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It kind of like this is this is again, and
not to create a golf analogy, but there's so many
people of like, you know, a guy misses a putt
on on eighteen, it's like, oh if I just made
that putt, It's like what about the ball you sh
when you're in perfect position on whole number four, where
you could have put yourself in a chance to get
a burdier apart there that that you messed up, Like,
(25:09):
did that not factor into being meaningful at the end
of the entire round. It's kind of like that throughout
the course of an NFL game, Like stuff that happens
in the second quarter clearly impacts the outcome at the end. Yeah,
we don't. From an officiating standpoint, look at it that way.
We're like, oh no, only the final two minutes of
each half, it's all matters.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's like that. It's like that two ninety at Bold.
You know, eight and a spare the first frame, eleven
straight stre that's what did you in?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Well, yeah, that's why you don't get that three hundred
and you get the two eighty.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
You said, Yeah, I think that's way worse than bowling
a horrible game. Okay, well here, but here's the thing
I feel good about it to if I hit eight
and a spare in the final frame, I wouldn't be
here doing this show right now because I would have
walked into traffic. That it that is I could not
live with myself. But it's still had the same ten
(26:00):
tenpins away from a perfect game like f that. I
don't want it. I don't want to be that close.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It's two pins eight in a spare. I don't want
to be that close. I don't want to be that close.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, but it keeps you coming back from more no
way again. It's like the gambling stuff. I would I
would not come back at all, not at all. It's
too close.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah. Listen, some people bowl, some people golf, some people
set it out, you know, whatever, whatever you're into, whatever,
float your boat. So we'll see whether or not Jim
Merces that's just too close. We'll see whether or not
Jim Merces got some got some poll in the league,
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up here as we look ahead to Thursday night football shortly,
but for all the latest from around the world of sports,
This man bowls with three hundred. Every time he's Edmund
Garcia about that, who do you think you are?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I am the Peah.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
It's a great line.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That guy, that guy was unique gets for sure?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Is he still He's not still competing?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Is he?
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I don't think he's still bowling, but he's uh, he's
definitely still around the game, isn't he? Sam?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Legend was that like the embryotic stages of I am him?
Like somebody took that and just like play.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Did I tell you? When we saw Rob Stone do
a bowling match a little further north, we hadnt signs
made and one of them was that who do you
think you are?
Speaker 8 (27:50):
I am?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And my wife looks at me, she goes, what does
this mean? I go, trust me, You're going to walk
in this bowling alley and people are gonna start clapping,
And it's sure enough, everyone's like just laughing, like nice job,
break side love. She's like, I don't get it. I'm like,
don't worry. It's a thing bowling.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I love I love it. Who would have thought it
would have come from bowling.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
We had a night two of the NBA season checking
in on some of the more intriguing matchups. The Mavericks
beat the Spurs one twenty six to one nineteen. Luca
Dodge at triple double in the first game of the
season for Dallas thirty three points, thirteen rebounds, ten assists,
and in the first game of his NBA career, overall
number one pick, Victor Winbayama fifteen points five rebounds in
the loss for the Spurs. Celtics knockoff the Nicks in
(28:40):
New York one O four. Jason Tatum thirty four points
for Boston, and in his Celtics debut, Christapsperzingis had thirty
points against his old team. Cavaliers get a Donovan Mitchell
three pointer with twelve seconds left edge the Nets in
Brooklyn one fourteen, one thirteen heat hold off the Pistons
for a one oh three one oh two when they
had a nineteen point lead with nine minutes to go
and lost almost lost it, but held on for the win.
(29:01):
Clippers beat the Trailblazers one twenty three to one eleven
Paul George twenty seven points, Kawhi Leonard twenty three points
for La Zion Williamson twenty three points for New Orleans.
Pelicans beat the Grizzlies one eleven one oh four, and
the thunder beat the Bulls in Chicago won twenty four
to one oh four, and afterwards, after game one of
the season, the Bulls held a player's only meeting. We
had wins for the Kings, Hornets, Pacers, Magic and Raptors,
(29:24):
NFL news Ford Enders, quarterback brock Perties and the concussion protocol.
It's like Sam Darnold's gonna get the start against the Bengals.
Browns are gonna go with p J Walker quarterback against
the Seahawks with Deshaun wats Is still nursing the shoulder injury,
and the Titans are portably gonna go with rookie quarterback
Will Levis to start against the Falcons. Malik Willis could
see some action as well. In baseball, Dusty Baker's informed
the Houston Astros he is retiring after twenty six years
(29:46):
as a manager in the major leagues. And we have
our pitching matchup for Game one of the World Series
on Friday, Zach Gallon for the dom Vacks and Nathan
Ivaldi for the Rangers. Not back to Brady quin Varrington,
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Speaker 2 (31:28):
This Van Halen is this with Sammy Hager or David
Lee Roth, oh Olly Way, David Lee Roth. It's a
weird dude. He's all over the place. It is two
pros and a cup of Joe Here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the Air. What
(31:50):
you mean he just like he just does random stuff.
I mean it's kind of cool, but he's also just
like randomly he'll just leave Van and then he just
went to went overseas and learned how to be a
samurai like you just like that was what's wrong with that?
There's no Cruise.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
They didn't film that made it a movie that Tom
Cruise is a tool, Like he's the last samurai.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's a good movie.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Hold, but he was the last samurai.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
He literally learned to be a samurai.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, he wanted to learn the samurai lifestyle. Like and
by the way, how that's accurate? I don't know. Can
we just double check that. I probably should have fact
checked that before I said it, But yeah, you do
that lot, something along the lines of, you know, he
went over to study to be a samurai.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Okay, but can we break this down? Like I don't
think that happens in like a year. No, Like that's
not like a hey, let's buy a package and learn
how to be a samurai. Like that's it.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I mean, there should be a samurai. Lee, what do
you laughing at? How far off was I on that?
Speaker 10 (32:53):
Well, what I'm seeing at first glance is he is
a martial artist, has been training ken jutsu since he
was twelve years old. And also this is Brazilian jiu
jitsu and something called kenpo Kempo karate.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That's what Chuck Lidel started in. But like I'm telling you,
he went overseas to learn how to be a samurai.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, but how long does that take?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know, like your entire life.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's just gonna say it like, aren't you a couple
of years You're like, go over and come back. You're like,
I've got it. Your life essentially just turned that into
your life.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, it's the lifestyle. And let me see. I'm looking
up David Lee Roth Samurai. You know, he's got a
bunch of.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
How long did it take them? The Field film, the
movie Last Samurai? That must be how long it takes
to be a Samurai? I know that Tom Cruise was
the last one, right, the Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
That's a good movie. That's a really good Last Samurai.
Oh yeah, great movie.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Have you seen it?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Jonas? No, I don't need to see it. It is
a good movie.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, it's cool. The one track off of the sound
I like working out to songs from movies like that.
And there's a song called Ronan r O n I
And yeah, I listened to that when you get a chance.
Have you seen the movie run In with Robert De Niro?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Great movie? I have the great card Chases. So Lee
just saw Robert de Niro's latest movie, that four hour extravaganza, right.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Yeah, Killers of the Flower Moon. Robert Niro was really
good in it.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
It looks like that's going to be The previews was
really good, which it's hard to find a good Robert
de Niro movie lately.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Why is that?
Speaker 6 (34:23):
I don't know, he's getting old. It's the last few
things he's done or not have not been good.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
He's kind of been doing paycheck movies. Yeh, last ten
years or so.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
But yeah, three and a half hours like brutal. Oh okay,
had a good drinking game going through it, though, What
was it every time they drink, you drink?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Oh wow, that's so cool, that's quitty cool. I might
try that this week.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Is that a game or just like social I.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Mean, that's just what me and Todd do.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh my god. By the way, I'm sure Lee was
drag kicking and screaming into that game, Sam, you weren't
included in this movie.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Night No.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Lee goes to movies like weekdays during the day, and
I'm like, I'm fan, I'm just I'm out, I'm fatigued.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But don't you have the same hours? Now?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Get well, kind of kind of. I come in a
little early, you come in a little earlier, right right?
At least all about that weekday lifestyle, man, you know? Yeah, Okay,
I prioritize my sleep.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
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(35:36):
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But right now, it's a return.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Of this.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I have been losing you even aligning low life candl guy.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
It's over under all, right, lead to a lot?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
What do we got?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Interesting?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Week?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Last week?
Speaker 10 (35:56):
Week seven between the Jaguars and Saints, where of course
the Jags won thirty one to twenty four point total
for that game was forty and LeVar being the only
one to take the over in that. Good job, LeVar,
round you bet you round two. We had passing touchdowns
for Derek Carr was set at one and a half.
Jonas was the only one that took the under. You
only threw one in that one, thank you. Of course
(36:17):
we had to have a Calvin Ridley prop in there.
We had receptions set at four and a half. He
only had one reception for five yards. He also had
a carry for negative one.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
LeVar.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
You took the under on that one. Good job, LaVar
A right.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Next, we had who would have the most total yards
from scrimmage between Alvin Kamara and Travis heat at ten.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Well, Kamara doubled them.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
Hey at the end had fifty three rushing twenty four
passing Kamara for sixty two rushing ninety one passing Hang.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I knew I should have went with Kamara. I'll say
god on that one. That was Brady got one, Yes,
the great gob Brady didn't go over Hell yeah baby
up top. Yeah. One more time.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
And then the last and most definitely least was would
they show Bourbon.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Street or a plate of crawfish?
Speaker 10 (37:08):
First, Jonas and Brady, you guys correctly predicted the Bourbon
Street horrible. I said nothing, You said neither, Labar, Yeah,
neither figured out right? All right, it's always a safe one.
But so it all came down to a tie two
to three everybody, So we just passed it up, rolling.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
On to this week. You know what, all in this together?
Off top everybody? All right, here we go, yeah yeah,
all right. I could tell you what that sounds like
in my world. I don't want to hear that world. Okay,
Well out, what are we? What do we got this week?
This week?
Speaker 10 (37:42):
Of course, we got Week eight tonight kicking off between
the Bucks at the Bills point total for this game
forty three and a half over, I think.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Under, I'm gonna say over.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
All right, moving right along, we got passing touchdowns for
Baker Mayfield at one and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I'm gonna go under, God, they don't run the ball,
that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Uh, I'm gonna say over. I mean, I can't believe
it's gonna be that scoring. And if they're gonna score,
then he has to.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Throw it in there.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So I'm gonna say over.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, I'll take the overs well too, Like they are
dead last in the league, correct, I think they're they're
averaging like seventy seven a game, rushing a game or
something like that. So Lagart Blunt still out or not?
Lagart Blunt, who's uh what's his name? Oh God, Purnette's
still out there, correct, still floating around Agent Lee what else?
Speaker 10 (38:44):
Passing and rushing yards for Josh Allen two eighty nine
and a half over pass two and I'm gonna take
the over.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I don't know why. Nice come on into my world. Q.
I don't know why, but that's just what I feel.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
No, I kind of gotta start hedging. Yeah, how far
apart are we all?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:09):
You do have some ground to make up.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
Levar's got a one point lead on Jonas and then
you are two behind Jonas there, Grady, so three.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
From behind them.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Not really worried about Jonas. Jonas will fall.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Keys, but you know, later in the year we should
start making some of these do like a wild card.
Pick one of them is worth more than the others.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You know, a little, just so you can get back.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And that's for losers.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
It's like, make your call, make your dangle of care.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Let me just keep messing up, but maybe at some
point I will catch the moneyball that works.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Yeah, Fellas, more receptions in this game. Stefan Diggs or.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
The field Diggs.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
O the field?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
We love options.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Options, you do you love.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, like like you're the guy likes to pick this
prize box you have a new car or what's in
this bond?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Absolutely? What the pair of shoe strings? But it made
me feel good, right.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
You know, only that sounds fun. I'm gonna do it.
LeVar did what.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
The so true?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I mean, what if it's like a pair of Lamborghini
keys in there, Like it was a small box and
it was a pair of Lamborghini keys in the box
and it was like a cheapy car on the other side.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Like, come on, you, I've never seen that app Just
never know, last one of your fellas.
Speaker 10 (40:35):
First time you see Anchor Bar in the broadcast is
going to be before after halftime.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Before Oh, I'll say it before I'm going to say never. Oh,
you're not going to see it at all, respect Anchor
Bar Nope, not going to see it. Wow, what's in
the box.
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Speaker 3 (01:13):
Mean, did you need an update or did you already?
Were you looking for confirmation? Well?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Who knows, man, it's what is the update? As the
world turns?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, I mean, don't listen, Let's be careful on how
we you know, present this as well. You don't want
to say anything the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What could happen.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
The goons come out for you start telling you wait
till I see you in person, stuff like that. So
just make sure it's positive whatever it is, keep it
above board.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
With How would that play out? Like he approaches somebody
on the set of Big Neon Kickoff and next thing
you know, Dave Coelo puts him in a dars choke.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, there's there's security on side, there's big I know.
Some interesting thing is like how do you say, like,
wait till I see it? But then you're like, yeah,
I saw you, Like well wait a second, I just
saw you just so I don't know, you know what.
It was a little bit interesting too, is like you know,
offically doctor chow O the doctors want to chime in now,
(02:10):
even without examining uh Deshaun, they would like to give
their medical opinion on that. I've never understood. I understand
like trying to peel back the layers of you know,
wanted to provide medical information about players, But I also
feel like it's a risky proposition. Like as a doctor,
I think most doctors would say outside of providing, you know,
(02:31):
the typical like, hey, this is what is being reported
as the injury. This is the issue. You got to
be careful because you don't have hands on with that
particular patient. You have no idea the specifics to the
injury outside of what's being reported. You're not a part
of any sort of imaging and all that. So I
do find it interesting that, like people have made a
business out of it, yet if we're being real with it,
(02:54):
no one in their right mind would ever listen to
a doctor that hasn't seen them personally. So I do
find it interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Or analyst at that, you know what I mean, like
people giving opinions and and here's my opinion, he don't
want to play.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
They don't want to play. Well, yeah, like and that
and look there was also remember when Gino Smith suffered
the ankle sprain. I think it was on Monday night fight.
I think it was against the Giants, and there were
some people on some you know, medical experts who saw
the injury and said, oh, yeah, that's a high ankle sprain.
He won't be back. He came back that same game,
like he missed a little bit of time, but he
came back and they ended up winning the game. So
(03:33):
I don't know how you from you know, the couch,
can diagnose what's what's going on with somebody's body. But
Kevin Stefanski, the head coach of the Cleveland Browns, he
did talk with the media yesterday. He gave the announcement
on the decision at quarterback for the Cleveland Browns and
just what his conversations have been like with Deshaw Watson.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
PJ is going to start this week. Deshaun's going to
focus on his rehab. I just feel like with what
happened in the game on his shoulder, there's residual swelling
that's affecting his throwing. I think it's the best thing
for him to rest this week and focus on the rehab.
And you know, as I've told you, guys. I will
always make what I think are the best decisions for
(04:16):
our football team for Deshaun, and I feel like this
is the best decision for this week. I talked to
DeShawn every day. Like I mentioned to you, guys, it's
he wants to play very badly. He also knows that
that rehab is the decision this week. But he's gonna
do everything he can to support his teammates. You know,
he's a captain of the team. He provides great leadership.
(04:37):
So he wants very badly to play, but just this
week makes sense to focus on the rehab.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
All right, all right, so it doesn't sound bad, Okay.
So he was cleared to play, and he didn't play
a couple of weeks ago. Then there was a buye,
then he didn't play again after the bye. Then he
played but was pulled from the game out of cap
should and they did an MRI. His shoulder was not
(05:04):
damaged in playing, yet he's still not playing. He doesn't
want to play like that, Like that's that's the way
I look at this. They're like, how many times can
you be medically cleared and not play without somebody just
saying the obvious, Like you did LaVar. He doesn't want
to play like you know.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I just I feel like he's gotten comfortable with not
completing seasons. And that's a thing. I mean, I'm just
being honest with you when you had again, I said
this on on on one of my podcast entries. I've
never been well, you know, I didn't seedlessly plug like you.
(05:45):
But I may mention of the fact that, like you
work your entire life like he's, he has a very
very humble beginning. I mean so much so to the
point of, if you know his story, at one point
he was homeless. You know, he's one of the families
that work done, you know by them home a home.
If you're working your entire life to be able to
(06:09):
create some just life stability, you know, it's not even
it's like, yeah, you want to get a job. You're
not going to be financially all the way stable. You're
going to live check to check, but you know what,
you have stability in your life, let alone if you
work hard in life and you end up making it
(06:29):
to a situation where you're guaranteed the amount of money
that he has and by the way, the amount of
money that he had before he even got to that
contract was a large contract, So I can only imagine
the amount of experiences and the things that's he's done
during the times where he's not playing. And that's a
(06:52):
very like when I tell you it's a very real thing.
That's a very real thing. When you have the type
of financial resources at that level, the things that you do,
the access you have to two different things, and it
almost it almost takes away that drive or that hunger.
(07:13):
And people say, oh, no, no that's not that's overblown. No, no,
you're you're a player, and you want to know. You
can lose the desire to want to go in to
work every day, You can lose the will to to
really really want to compete. You might in your mind
(07:33):
think you want to, but there's a part of you
that's sitting there saying, I don't feel like getting up
and going in today, and you know what, why should I?
You know, I just you know, and then that when
that happens, injuries hurt more, everything hurts, more, meetings are longer.
I was there, I was at that point my last
year in the league I started, I was dealing with injuries.
(07:55):
I was there, you know, and you just start to
lose your your kind of your focus, say in on
it and your your passion for and you then ultimately
to love leaves. Do you see love in Deshaun Watson's
face and his actions when you see him on the field.
It looks like a totally detached dude, is what it
looks like to me.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I mean, I'll say this though, like for people who
have a ton of money, they'll also tell you, like,
having money doesn't solve all your problems either.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It creates a more decent amount of stress.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, mo, money more problems. Look, in this case, the
thing that it's hard to understand is and this is
this is where people, I think took issue with what
I said. I've never once questioned Deshaun Watson's toughness. He's
played through injuries before. It's why it's probably more surprising
that he's not playing at this point like he's playing
(08:47):
through it toward a c L. So no one's questioning
is toughness or is competitiveness. And it's what makes this
whole thing a little more perplexing. And I understand the
injury to the road cuff because I've had a post
terol libermterre, I've had torn Carlage in. My ribs got
shot up, got my shoulder shot up, played through it,
(09:09):
been there like had Liz Frank injury, played through it,
finished the game, broke my right index finger, tried to
play through it, try to start the next week in Cleveland,
they literally took me out at half and they say, hey,
ball's not coming off your hand, right, I think you
eat surgery Like, been there, done that. No one's questioning
(09:30):
is toughness or competitiveness. At least, I'm not questioning his competitiveness.
It's more about the timeline of what they've given out
when they said four to six weeks. Well, the initial
injury happened back in what September twenty fourth, twenty second,
Well that was what Thursday because they played the Titans
of the twenty fourth.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Who knows at this point, Yes, well.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
No, I'm telling you for a fact, Yeah it was that.
No one knows it was actually they played the Titans
on the twenty fourth.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I believe I think it's the twenty fourth. Yeah, you know,
I think it was on the twenty fourth that they played.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
But the point is is now we are a month
after that, and so I don't know if like the
rehab clock restarts because he played last week and when
he got knocked down on the interception, they said he
fell on his shoulder. It looked like he hit his head. Honestly,
I thought it was more concussion related because he did,
I believe get checked out for that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I'm with it looked like he hit his head. Yeah,
and that's what we're talking about, all right, clear concussions
like but now it's the shoulder like it was if
you recall, that's what Deshaun Watts. Deshaun Watson addressed his shoulder.
He didn't even address the concussion.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Right, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So my point is, does that restart the clock for
what's going on with his shoulder, because otherwise, like you're
in that window, would he based on all our medical
experts that haven't examined him that want to chime in,
that's say you should be back by now. So I
don't know, man, It's it's to the point where as
again I think for Browns fans out there, you're watching
(10:59):
a team that sits at four and two. They can
make a run. They can be a team that competes,
I think for an AFC championship if they get I
guess at this point, PJ. Walker playing a little better,
right if he starts to pick things up, takes care
of the football, the way they're running the football, their defense,
the way they're playing like they're gonna have a shot.
So I mean, at this point, I'm kind of just
(11:21):
moving on to all right, like what do we got
this week? If I'm a Browns fan Brown's player, who
do we got this week? And who do we have
healthy that we're able to you know, put out there.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's all that matters. Just the part that still just
doesn't make sense to me. And you know, he gets clear,
they're saying no further damage. He got another MRI this week,
as we laid out. But you know, Adam Schefter has
got you know this, you know, more clarity on Deshaun's injuries.
It told him he's got, you know, this strain of
you know whatever the it is a you know four
(11:53):
to six weeks. Okay, Well, if there's been no other
further damage to it, and that was the injury at
the four to six week mark, why didn't you just
put them on IR. Had they put him on IR,
there just wouldn't have been any questions, Like there wouldn't
have been any Okay, he's on iri, he's going to
miss this amount of time. It's just the week by
week approach when you knew it wasn't a week by
week injury. After the fact, none of it adds sent.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
They're still supportive, I mean hearing the hey coach speak on,
there's still supportive of them.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
He has to be, doesn't he.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
No, he doesn't have to be. He doesn't have to be,
but he still is. And I'm just curious how long
this plays out. Well, I mean you're out on Sunday, Okay,
you've been continuously missing games or coming out of the game.
I mean you only played a quarter. You didn't even
play a quarter.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
If you're let me ask you guys this, because both
you guys are ultra competitive and have played through a lot.
If your coach pulled you aside and said, hey, I
know you're cleared, I know medically you can go out
and play, but I'm making this decision to pull you
out of this game and you're not going to play
this week, you would fight him on.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I would want to understand why. I would feel like
there's an ulterior motive if that were the case, Like
I'm not I'm not the player that I think I am.
If a coach is unless he can explain to me
the significance of the reason why you're holding me out,
that's that's that's how I would handle it, like cause,
(13:20):
if you know me as a player, if you if
you coached me as a player, that's not even something
that you're going to You're not even going to come
to me with that. You understand what I'm saying, Like,
you're not going to come like LeVar, we know you're healthy,
we know you're cleared to play, we know you're practicing,
but you know what, like, we're just we're going to
hold you out this game, Like preseason that might be it,
(13:43):
but a regular season game. I mean, why would you
even approach someone of my caliber with something of that buffoonery?
It just do It wouldn't make sense. So I wouldn't
know how to handle it because it's not something that
I would be faced with.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I think the other side out of this conversation, though,
is it'd be one thing if they were a team
that was struggling, but they're not, like they're they're winning
with without him being there. And I think that also
lends you to think well, maybe they can be more
patient with it. Like maybe Kevin Stefanski would be like, hey, dude,
we need to we needed to go in there because
we don't right now, we're not winning. If we want
(14:20):
to have a shot, we've we've got to We've got
to have you in there. We've got to have a
shot of ubile. He's playing even though you're one hundred
percent whatever percentage, your is better than the alternative, but
that's not the position there. They're they're winning even without them,
So maybe they feel like they can be more patient,
you know, with allowing him to get back to one
hundred percent and when he feels like he's one hundred
(14:41):
percent to get back out there and play. There's also
that side of.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Possible, and that's very possible. I just think if you're
in a if we're in a conversation where the debate
is talking to Deshaun Watson and seeing if he wants
to go, or leading with him or reasoning with him
about going, you're already in the wrong place. Like I've
(15:07):
heard of holding guys back in spite of themselves. I've
never really outside of the guys who have checked out
where a coach or there And here's another thing you
got to think about. I mean, maybe I'm negligent on
all of the information, but I haven't seen any other
players come out and have anything to say about it.
(15:28):
And and to me, when a guy is under fire,
I mean, who.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Needs players when you got throwing coaches? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, when that's I guess that's true. You know, no,
that's not true at all. When your players say, you
know what, like Deshaun needs this time, or you know,
we got Deshaun until it gets back, or anything like
just any type of show of public support in the
media as it applies to your fellow man, you know
that there's a level of respect there, like you're not
(15:58):
really hearing anybody say anything about him, which it almost
feels like they're probably unconcerned, they're unbothered by the fact
that he's not playing. And I say, I may mention
of this last week. The worst thing that could ever happen,
and that is, if you're still into being someone in
your locker room and on the field with your team,
the worst thing you could ever do is allow your
(16:18):
teammates to lose respect for who you are and lose
the belief in the fact that we need you with
us to be able to win. If they continue to
win without him, when he comes back, they're still looking
at him kind of like, well, we've been winning without you.
It's still You're going to be looked at a little
bit differently if the circumstances aren't on the up and up. Now,
(16:40):
if he's really injured, that's different. But if you get
that feeling that he's detached and he's not a part
of us, and you know he's not part of the
program the way that he's supposed to be, that could
be a difficult challenge. That could be a challenge that
Stefanski's going to have to make sure he's looking at,
monitoring and managing possibly well.
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Speaker 3 (18:00):
To see how I did this week. Honestly, come on,
shake your head yes or not.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't give away the good.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Just give me a yes or no.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
You're gonna have to wait and see, buddy.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, geez, but he shook his head no when he
said it.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I did not shake anywhere I saw.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Damn all right, So we do have somebody who's got
an idea in the NFL. Jim Mersey was upset about
the final. He was upset about the the final. Uh.
You know, a couple of the calls late in that game.
You know, he was not happy about, you know, some
of the things that went against the Indianapolis Colts. Uh.
(18:40):
And he had a point. I mean, there was there
was a call in the end zone which was a
terrible call and the call stood.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And then do owners get fine for public criticism of
the of the referees because players do?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't think so. Yeah, coaches ca Okay. I was curious,
has it ever happened? Has anybody ever warn itt?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I know, like Mark Cuban in the NBA gets it
all the time, But I'm trying to think in the NFL.
Has anybody in the NFL gotten it? I was just curious.
I don't know what about Little Danny? You ever criticized official?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't even remember that, dude. I talked to them yesterday.
They've been calling me since twenty one. We had a
great conversation for the first time. Shouts out to Tim
hot Tower, man, he's assistant dude, Man, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What do they want? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Anyway, let's talk about let's let's keep let's keep where
we're at. What are we talking about here? What are
we looking at?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Here? Is Jim Mersey is Laar Arrington getting a statue
outside RFK Stadium? Yeah you know what, I am outside
right outside RFK. Awesome. Yeah, thank you man. I appreciate that.
That's cool, all right.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So Jim Mersay, yeah, I mean, you know he was
publicly critical of Dan Snyder back in the day.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
You know, when Dan Snyder on the team.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Me let me ask you guys a question if there
is a critical missed call earlier in the game. I mean,
it's like, don't you guys feel like the biggest issue
here is slowing up the game and the amount of
time it would take with all of these reviews. Like
I just feel like, if you're saying in the last
(20:22):
two minutes of the game, every every call should be
reviewed or whatever, whatever, how do you say?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So the specific wording on this is Jim Mersey said,
quote the NFL admits and understands that they did not
make the correct calls at the end of Sunday's Coach
Browns game. I believe we need to institute instant replay
for all calls, including penalties in the last two minutes
of all games.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I mean, doesn't that become time consuming? I don't care,
get it right, doesn't bother me at all. I got
nowhere to go, I know, but it's a TV show.
You got time slots in your TV show.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think if they wanted to, they could look at
how the college football game utilizes instant replay. The hard
part is is two things control where if you look
at the instant replay review process in college it's done
there on site. You have a couple of officials that
are your replay officials, and they're the ones that are
tasked with doing that. That then takes away power from
(21:22):
the New York office right where everything goes back to
that one central command center. That's the first thing. And
the second thing would be it'd be a protocol or
it would be a process that would be different than
what they're doing now. And for whatever reason, I never
understand this because there's two things that stand out to
me right now, Like, the college football review process is
(21:45):
much faster and efficient and better, yet the NFL won't
adopt it. And then we're seeing this whole Michigan debacle
with sign stealing. And now finally coaches are like yeah,
I don't know why we don't have coach the quarterbacks
and the helmets. It's like, well, no idea why college football,
which has the funds has the ability to do so,
doesn't just put radio system to the helmet and it
(22:07):
clears all that up. But it's there's like, for whatever reason,
the NFL and college football, there's certain things where they're like, no,
this is how it's been, that's how it's going to be.
We're not doing that NFL stuff. In the NFL, they're like, nah,
we're not doing that college football stuff down there. Like that.
Both sides like just for whatever reason won't say, you
(22:28):
know what, college football is pretty much like the minor
league system for the NFL, maybe we should have the
rules the exact same way. Now that being said, like
if you look at Major League Baseball has a minor
league system. Major League Baseball there's oftentimes rules that are
like tried out in the minor league system that are
then brought up or adopted at the major league level,
(22:50):
And you could do similar things with the NFL and
college football. Even though there's not a direct relationship in
regards to the quote unquote minor league you know, direction
or funnel to the Major League. So it's just it's
so funny to me that we'll get people who complain
about it. Yet it comes round with the Competition Committee
and they just take these odd stances on why they
(23:12):
don't want to implement replay in a way that's been
effective and an efficient for that matter. When it comes
to TV.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It's just if we've got the ability to do it,
I don't know why we don't do it, And and
just the whole time consuming thing. I don't buy it, man.
I actually I think a lot of that when you're
slowing it down and showing frame by frame how something looks,
if anything that's keeping viewers, and if you need to
keep it you know, you know, run an ad on
the bottom or doing you know, in in game commercial
(23:41):
or something like that to keep the advertisers happy, whatever
it takes. Just get the call right, Like there's too
many things on the line most importantly, and forget about
like players legacies and wins and coaches wins and jobs
and all that gambling, like that's the most important part
of all this stuff. Like there's yeah, I forget about
the rest of it. Who cares about that stuff?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
It's about gambling, the difference in between you losing, yes,
like if.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You had Colts on the money line in that game.
Like you're looking around going wait a second here, like
we just got jobbed on an awful call, like we
got screwed on this, which leads to other conversations, right, yes, yeah,
I just I'm I'm with it. Jim mersys a bit
of a wild child. He's you know, he says a
lot of things that are way over the top, you know,
you know, talking about you know, him being dead and
(24:28):
Jonathan Taylor being out of the league. Nobody would care
a little bit suspect, But this one, I'm totally in
for everything reviewable final two minutes of the game, let's go.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It does beg the question, though, why wouldn't you make
irreviewable throughout the course of the game.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Too, I mean, like only last two minutes perfect.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It kind of like this is this is again, and
not to create a golf analogy, but there's so many
people of like, you know, a guy misses a putt
on on eighteen, it's like, oh if I just made
that putt, It's like what about the ball you sh
when you're in perfect position on whole number four, where
you could have put yourself in a chance to get
a burdier apart there that that you messed up, Like,
(25:09):
did that not factor into being meaningful at the end
of the entire round. It's kind of like that throughout
the course of an NFL game, Like stuff that happens
in the second quarter clearly impacts the outcome at the end. Yeah,
we don't. From an officiating standpoint, look at it that way.
We're like, oh no, only the final two minutes of
each half, it's all matters.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's like that. It's like that two ninety at Bold.
You know, eight and a spare the first frame, eleven
straight stre that's what did you in?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Well, yeah, that's why you don't get that three hundred
and you get the two eighty.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
You said, Yeah, I think that's way worse than bowling
a horrible game. Okay, well here, but here's the thing
I feel good about it to if I hit eight
and a spare in the final frame, I wouldn't be
here doing this show right now because I would have
walked into traffic. That it that is I could not
live with myself. But it's still had the same ten
(26:00):
tenpins away from a perfect game like f that. I
don't want it. I don't want to be that close.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It's two pins eight in a spare. I don't want
to be that close. I don't want to be that close.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, but it keeps you coming back from more no
way again. It's like the gambling stuff. I would I
would not come back at all, not at all. It's
too close.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah. Listen, some people bowl, some people golf, some people
set it out, you know, whatever, whatever you're into, whatever,
float your boat. So we'll see whether or not Jim
Merces that's just too close. We'll see whether or not
Jim Merces got some got some poll in the league,
and he can make this happen. By the way, we
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but for all the latest from around the world of sports,
This man bowls with three hundred. Every time he's Edmund
Garcia about that, who do you think you are?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I am the Peah.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
It's a great line.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That guy, that guy was unique gets for sure?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Is he still He's not still competing?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Is he?
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I don't think he's still bowling, but he's uh, he's
definitely still around the game, isn't he? Sam?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Legend was that like the embryotic stages of I am him?
Like somebody took that and just like play.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Did I tell you? When we saw Rob Stone do
a bowling match a little further north, we hadnt signs
made and one of them was that who do you
think you are?
Speaker 8 (27:50):
I am?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And my wife looks at me, she goes, what does
this mean? I go, trust me, You're going to walk
in this bowling alley and people are gonna start clapping,
And it's sure enough, everyone's like just laughing, like nice job,
break side love. She's like, I don't get it. I'm like,
don't worry. It's a thing bowling.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I love I love it. Who would have thought it
would have come from bowling.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
We had a night two of the NBA season checking
in on some of the more intriguing matchups. The Mavericks
beat the Spurs one twenty six to one nineteen. Luca
Dodge at triple double in the first game of the
season for Dallas thirty three points, thirteen rebounds, ten assists,
and in the first game of his NBA career, overall
number one pick, Victor Winbayama fifteen points five rebounds in
the loss for the Spurs. Celtics knockoff the Nicks in
(28:40):
New York one O four. Jason Tatum thirty four points
for Boston, and in his Celtics debut, Christapsperzingis had thirty
points against his old team. Cavaliers get a Donovan Mitchell
three pointer with twelve seconds left edge the Nets in
Brooklyn one fourteen, one thirteen heat hold off the Pistons
for a one oh three one oh two when they
had a nineteen point lead with nine minutes to go
and lost almost lost it, but held on for the win.
(29:01):
Clippers beat the Trailblazers one twenty three to one eleven
Paul George twenty seven points, Kawhi Leonard twenty three points
for La Zion Williamson twenty three points for New Orleans.
Pelicans beat the Grizzlies one eleven one oh four, and
the thunder beat the Bulls in Chicago won twenty four
to one oh four, and afterwards, after game one of
the season, the Bulls held a player's only meeting. We
had wins for the Kings, Hornets, Pacers, Magic and Raptors,
(29:24):
NFL news Ford Enders, quarterback brock Perties and the concussion protocol.
It's like Sam Darnold's gonna get the start against the Bengals.
Browns are gonna go with p J Walker quarterback against
the Seahawks with Deshaun wats Is still nursing the shoulder injury,
and the Titans are portably gonna go with rookie quarterback
Will Levis to start against the Falcons. Malik Willis could
see some action as well. In baseball, Dusty Baker's informed
the Houston Astros he is retiring after twenty six years
(29:46):
as a manager in the major leagues. And we have
our pitching matchup for Game one of the World Series
on Friday, Zach Gallon for the dom Vacks and Nathan
Ivaldi for the Rangers. Not back to Brady quin Varrington,
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Speaker 2 (31:28):
This Van Halen is this with Sammy Hager or David
Lee Roth, oh Olly Way, David Lee Roth. It's a
weird dude. He's all over the place. It is two
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LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the Air. What
(31:50):
you mean he just like he just does random stuff.
I mean it's kind of cool, but he's also just
like randomly he'll just leave Van and then he just
went to went overseas and learned how to be a
samurai like you just like that was what's wrong with that?
There's no Cruise.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
They didn't film that made it a movie that Tom
Cruise is a tool, Like he's the last samurai.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's a good movie.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Hold, but he was the last samurai.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
He literally learned to be a samurai.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, he wanted to learn the samurai lifestyle. Like and
by the way, how that's accurate? I don't know. Can
we just double check that. I probably should have fact
checked that before I said it, But yeah, you do
that lot, something along the lines of, you know, he
went over to study to be a samurai.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Okay, but can we break this down? Like I don't
think that happens in like a year. No, Like that's
not like a hey, let's buy a package and learn
how to be a samurai. Like that's it.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I mean, there should be a samurai. Lee, what do
you laughing at? How far off was I on that?
Speaker 10 (32:53):
Well, what I'm seeing at first glance is he is
a martial artist, has been training ken jutsu since he
was twelve years old. And also this is Brazilian jiu
jitsu and something called kenpo Kempo karate.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That's what Chuck Lidel started in. But like I'm telling you,
he went overseas to learn how to be a samurai.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, but how long does that take?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know, like your entire life.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's just gonna say it like, aren't you a couple
of years You're like, go over and come back. You're like,
I've got it. Your life essentially just turned that into
your life.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, it's the lifestyle. And let me see. I'm looking
up David Lee Roth Samurai. You know, he's got a
bunch of.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
How long did it take them? The Field film, the
movie Last Samurai? That must be how long it takes
to be a Samurai? I know that Tom Cruise was
the last one, right, the Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
That's a good movie. That's a really good Last Samurai.
Oh yeah, great movie.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Have you seen it?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Jonas? No, I don't need to see it. It is
a good movie.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, it's cool. The one track off of the sound
I like working out to songs from movies like that.
And there's a song called Ronan r O n I
And yeah, I listened to that when you get a chance.
Have you seen the movie run In with Robert De Niro?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Great movie? I have the great card Chases. So Lee
just saw Robert de Niro's latest movie, that four hour extravaganza, right.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Yeah, Killers of the Flower Moon. Robert Niro was really
good in it.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
It looks like that's going to be The previews was
really good, which it's hard to find a good Robert
de Niro movie lately.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Why is that?
Speaker 6 (34:23):
I don't know, he's getting old. It's the last few
things he's done or not have not been good.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
He's kind of been doing paycheck movies. Yeh, last ten
years or so.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
But yeah, three and a half hours like brutal. Oh okay,
had a good drinking game going through it, though, What
was it every time they drink, you drink?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Oh wow, that's so cool, that's quitty cool. I might
try that this week.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Is that a game or just like social I.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Mean, that's just what me and Todd do.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh my god. By the way, I'm sure Lee was
drag kicking and screaming into that game, Sam, you weren't
included in this movie.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Night No.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Lee goes to movies like weekdays during the day, and
I'm like, I'm fan, I'm just I'm out, I'm fatigued.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But don't you have the same hours? Now?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Get well, kind of kind of. I come in a
little early, you come in a little earlier, right right?
At least all about that weekday lifestyle, man, you know? Yeah, Okay,
I prioritize my sleep.
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Speaker 8 (35:43):
Of this.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I have been losing you even aligning low life candl guy.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
It's over under all, right, lead to a lot?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
What do we got?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Interesting?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Week?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Last week?
Speaker 10 (35:56):
Week seven between the Jaguars and Saints, where of course
the Jags won thirty one to twenty four point total
for that game was forty and LeVar being the only
one to take the over in that. Good job, LeVar,
round you bet you round two. We had passing touchdowns
for Derek Carr was set at one and a half.
Jonas was the only one that took the under. You
only threw one in that one, thank you. Of course
(36:17):
we had to have a Calvin Ridley prop in there.
We had receptions set at four and a half. He
only had one reception for five yards. He also had
a carry for negative one.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
LeVar.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
You took the under on that one. Good job, LaVar
A right.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Next, we had who would have the most total yards
from scrimmage between Alvin Kamara and Travis heat at ten.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Well, Kamara doubled them.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
Hey at the end had fifty three rushing twenty four
passing Kamara for sixty two rushing ninety one passing Hang.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I knew I should have went with Kamara. I'll say
god on that one. That was Brady got one, Yes,
the great gob Brady didn't go over Hell yeah baby
up top. Yeah. One more time.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
And then the last and most definitely least was would
they show Bourbon.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Street or a plate of crawfish?
Speaker 10 (37:08):
First, Jonas and Brady, you guys correctly predicted the Bourbon
Street horrible. I said nothing, You said neither, Labar, Yeah,
neither figured out right? All right, it's always a safe one.
But so it all came down to a tie two
to three everybody, So we just passed it up, rolling.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
On to this week. You know what, all in this together?
Off top everybody? All right, here we go, yeah yeah,
all right. I could tell you what that sounds like
in my world. I don't want to hear that world. Okay,
Well out, what are we? What do we got this week?
This week?
Speaker 10 (37:42):
Of course, we got Week eight tonight kicking off between
the Bucks at the Bills point total for this game
forty three and a half over, I think.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Under, I'm gonna say over.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
All right, moving right along, we got passing touchdowns for
Baker Mayfield at one and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I'm gonna go under, God, they don't run the ball,
that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Uh, I'm gonna say over. I mean, I can't believe
it's gonna be that scoring. And if they're gonna score,
then he has to.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Throw it in there.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So I'm gonna say over.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, I'll take the overs well too, Like they are
dead last in the league, correct, I think they're they're
averaging like seventy seven a game, rushing a game or
something like that. So Lagart Blunt still out or not?
Lagart Blunt, who's uh what's his name? Oh God, Purnette's
still out there, correct, still floating around Agent Lee what else?
Speaker 10 (38:44):
Passing and rushing yards for Josh Allen two eighty nine
and a half over pass two and I'm gonna take
the over.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I don't know why. Nice come on into my world. Q.
I don't know why, but that's just what I feel.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
No, I kind of gotta start hedging. Yeah, how far
apart are we all?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:09):
You do have some ground to make up.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
Levar's got a one point lead on Jonas and then
you are two behind Jonas there, Grady, so three.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
From behind them.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Not really worried about Jonas. Jonas will fall.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Keys, but you know, later in the year we should
start making some of these do like a wild card.
Pick one of them is worth more than the others.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You know, a little, just so you can get back.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And that's for losers.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
It's like, make your call, make your dangle of care.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Let me just keep messing up, but maybe at some
point I will catch the moneyball that works.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Yeah, Fellas, more receptions in this game. Stefan Diggs or.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
The field Diggs.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
O the field?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
We love options.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Options, you do you love.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, like like you're the guy likes to pick this
prize box you have a new car or what's in
this bond?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Absolutely? What the pair of shoe strings? But it made
me feel good, right.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
You know, only that sounds fun. I'm gonna do it.
LeVar did what.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
The so true?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I mean, what if it's like a pair of Lamborghini
keys in there, Like it was a small box and
it was a pair of Lamborghini keys in the box
and it was like a cheapy car on the other side.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Like, come on, you, I've never seen that app Just
never know, last one of your fellas.
Speaker 10 (40:35):
First time you see Anchor Bar in the broadcast is
going to be before after halftime.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Before Oh, I'll say it before I'm going to say never. Oh,
you're not going to see it at all, respect Anchor
Bar Nope, not going to see it. Wow, what's in
the box.
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