November 28, 2023 • 38 mins
Bill Belichick shoots down the idea of bringing in a QB, so who should they draft next year? The guys think they found a way to get LaVar interested in the PGA. Plus, a wild finish in the NHL and another edition of “Would You Rather?”
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Did you know about it? Brady?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
My question is, aren't we changing these up at some point?
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I'm ready?
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Oh you ready? You got your song?
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I mean in the holster, I've got something ready to
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I've got my hammer out and I can't wait to
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That song. It's not for everybody, you know, Jonas isn't
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Speaker 4 (01:46):
I'm so torn.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
I almost want to actually see if I can talk
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Can just steal Jonas's song.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Artist. Okay, I'm gonna catch out way off guard with
what I'm going now.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Can somebody please don't make it creed? I'm done with
the Creed higher stuff.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
So let's go there. Oh God, we're not going to
make it good. Let's make our escape come over now.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Me is that.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
I'm a little concerned we will not get this in
today's program.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
So I do want to mention this.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Did anyone see the Panthers game the hockey game last night?
What happened at the very end?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
How many fights were there?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Well?
Speaker 6 (02:37):
They they gave I think it was a ten minute
and Eddie could probably speak this better than I could.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
They gave everyone on the ice ten minutes. There's only
seven minutes.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
And twenty two seconds eleven day, so essentially everyone on
the ice was done for the rest of the game
and both teams had to play shorthanded for the rest.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Let's hear from the host of the world famous Puck podcast,
Edmund Garcia and This Puck the World Report.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
What the eddie?
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Remember when we had the hardball bawl back in the day,
when when John and Jim were both in the NFL,
we had the this was the ka chuck uh face off.
I guess in this one you had the two brothers
on each side. They're both known for being a little nasty.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
I don't think they actually got into it with each
other on the ice, which was one unfortunate that would
have been that would be nice. But yeah, it was
getting out of control. The game was already decided, and
the referee was like, yeah, that's it. Yeah, everybody off
the ice. We got the SoundBite.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
Do you have the sound I had a bench shows fantastic, Eddie.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Have you ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 7 (03:44):
I don't recall seeing anything like that.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
No, that was it was like a slap shot, like
that's the only thing I could compare movie.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Yeah, it's very certainly in today's NHL, where you know,
I guess in all sports things have gotten less violent,
as we've talked about. But yeah, it's it's very rare
to see this kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Here.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Here was the here's the call here on the ice.
Speaker 9 (04:09):
Two minutes for goal tender interference, two minutes for roughing.
Florida number twelve has two minutes for roughing, and then
every player on the ice has a ten minute misconduct.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
Geez, every other player has two minutes, and there was
less than ten minutes to go, so they were all
basically they were and it was yours.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
It was for nothing Florida, which probably played a little
bit of factor too.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
In that game, was that hand.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
Yeah sure, and basically everybody, the rest of you mother lovers,
get up out of here.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I'm not going through all these numbers. That's great, all
that's that's good.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Now, it's a good point.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
LeVar has no needed really going through all ye I'm
not going to everybody else is gonna.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Well, I'm thinking about great moments in referee mic histories.
Remember there was one back in the day of the
NFL guy was talking about giving him the business.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, this definitely is. That's a historical one. The rest
of y'all, y'all got ten minutes. He gave the numbers
on like blocking the goaltender and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But the rest of y'all, y'all out.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Here, Well there was the uh. Remember this wasn't really
a call, but he was just being a wise ass
member gene Sterotor.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
He did the uh.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
He used an index card to show how far away
I think the Raiders were from getting a first down.
Just to be a smart ass, Just to be a
wise ass, I pulled out Oh yeah, like they showed everybody. Yeah,
it's this right here, this is how far it is.
Just to be a pain in the ass. But yeah,
that's funny, man. Everybody on the ice gets a ten
minute game misconduct.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Well, listen, we'll trying to follow that up here on
this show so we can get some game misconducts handed
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Tommy DeVito. Tommy DeVito in company. And so Bill Belichick
spoke at a pressing operation yesterday with the media talking
about what the plan is at CORNAG and are they
planning on maybe bringing in some outside and on.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
The quarterback position.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Can you envision bring someone in from outside the organization
who would you know, get starts or time over the
next six weeks.
Speaker 10 (06:46):
Uh, yeah, I don't really see that right now, but
I mean I wouldn't rule anything out anything that would
help our team. You know, we brought in players at
any position. You never know what's going to happen. If
I think they're somebody, you know, our Scout pro Scott
Department thinks there's somebody that would help us, will certainly
listen to it and take a look at it. An
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because it's not really about the quarterback position really be
any position, So I don't know nobody that comes to mind,
but mostly.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So there's your update on the New England Patriots and
their search for a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I mean it was down to the wire.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I was right up until kickoff, almost before they decided
they were going to make Mac Jones the quarterback and
not Bailey Zappy. And that lasted a short time and
then they pulled him and put Bailey Zappy in. Malie
Cunningham was there, not sure what happened with that whole experience.
Will Greer was there. He was cut last weekend before
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the game. So it just feels like we're kind of
at a point where the Patriots are just sort of
destined to be one of the teams picking high top
of the draft, and you'd imagine I'm going to be
a quarterback there.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I'm starting to get almost a sense that they don't
mind that being the case, right, Like, if you have
a shot at getting Caleb Williams or Drake May, you're
probably excited about it. Like I was thinking this watching
this past week's game, going, I don't know that the
team that loses that upset about it. I mean, neither
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team are gonna make the playoffs, and I know Daniel
Jones is still under contract. He'll probably be the stop
gap quarterback for the Giants. But in the case of
the Patriots, they get to start over and they're gonna
take one of the top two quarterbacks in next year's draft,
either Caleb Williams or Drake May Now, granted, I'm gonna
throw Jade and Daniels in that mix out Lsu. I
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think he's I mean, he's improved so much over the
past couple of years and his ability to run, how
dynamic he's been. But also from the pocket, I mean
a he might win the Heisman be I think he's
really improved his draft stock. So I'll throw those three.
As far as the three, I think teams are evaluating
and looking at. But man, I mean, I was just thinking, like,
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the winner of this isn't helping themselves with positioning themselves
for the future. And I know as players like, no
one cares in the roster, no coach ultimately cares considering
their job security. But I've been out of it long
enough to look at it and say, yeah, in the
in the bigger picture of the grand scheme, if Bell Bell,
(09:14):
if this is Bill Belichick's last.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Year is the New England Patriots head coach.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
And his parting gift is an awful season that leads
to a Caleb Williams or Drake May or Jane Daniels
for like the next ten or fifteen years being THEIRS quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Maybe not the worst parting gift.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Right, can't be the worst part in gift. Huh?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Well, I mean, I think this season is probably a
pretty bad parting gift for Belichick, but but not.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
If it sets them up for the future.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I agree. I agree, it's not a bad parting gift. Like,
give them, give them one of those picks you can
move on into the future with, you know, really really
high prospect. Hopefully he proves out.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Is it Caleb for you guys? Or is there any
debate over the other two.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I mentioned Drake May? I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I just know they were hollering the return of Tom
Brady when Mac Jones first got there. I don't know
if people remember that when he touched down in New England,
but a lot of fanfare accompanied him coming in. And
the reason why I bring that up is I'm not
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so sure that New England is in a place personnel wise,
that you wouldn't waste the first what two three seasons
of whatever quarterback it is in Williams or you know
May that you would bring in. It would look like
Carolina for Bryce Young. I mean, if not worse or
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on par I mean, I'm not gonna say worse. I
mean it was bad enough where you know their coach
didn't even make the entire season. I don't know how
that works, but man, I mean, if I'm Caleb or
I'm Drake May, do I even want to be the
recipient and the winner of that parting gift? I don't
want that gift. Like are you able to give gifts back? Like,
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if you offer a gift, can I can I give
it back? Can we return to cender? Because I don't
know that I will want to step into that scenario.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
If so, If we list the teams off that are
going to be projected to pick a quarterback near the
top of the draft, which team has the worst personnel
to surround a quarterback? And the options would be the Bears,
the Patriots, the Commanders, and the Giants, I would say
the Patriots have the worst personnel to surround the quarterback
(11:37):
of all those teams listed.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I don't know off the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I would have to look over all of those teams,
but it would I.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Think undoubtedly be the Patriots right now.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
I mean, if you go back through the back Jones interceptions,
you know he was targeting. I want to say, in
both of them, Douglas, who's you know, younger player? He's
probably the only player that's got a little burst and
popped to him now with Kendrick and Bean out, and
you could clearly tell they're trying to find some dynamic
playmaker or get the ball into one of their playmaker's hands.
But it's just tough when you sometimes rely on a
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younger player in this league and they need a ton
of help. So if the draft started today, it would
be New England drafting at three at two and nine,
whereas Arizona still has the number two overall pick. They're
kind of interesting because I think Kyler's been a lot better,
even though this past week it wasn't good. Maybe they
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looked they were looked at as a trade partner for
someone like the Giants or any of these other teams,
maybe Tampa Bays. It's a four and seven, they want
to trade up to that spot. I would think they're
a potential trade partner for both the Giants and the
Bucks in that case, looking for their quarterback of the future.
If Arizona States put with Kyler and is able to
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build out around them with that roster, with that slew
of picks, they'll get a return.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
But you'd have to think. The other interesting one is
the Bears of one one.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
I mean, they're sitting at number one that have their
pick of whatever quarterback they'd want. It is a good class,
and they pick at four. So you can't tell me
if you can get Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Junior
at one and four, it would be tough to turn
that down if you're the Bears. And remember Poles already
did this once right where he turned down last year,
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the opportunity of doing something in the draft that quarterback
to see what they'd be this year. And now, given
how bad Carolina's been, they find themselves right back in
that spot to be able to take a quarterback if
they so choose.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
So this year's draft will be fascinating. I know we
have so much.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Football left to be to be played, and it's probably
a little premature to be talking about it. But with
the college football season ending and you're starting to see
some teams now have no shot at the postseason, it
becomes more of a conversation for fodder because this is
ultimately where this is leading is teams who aren't in
it for the postseason are thinking about what's coming next
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year with some of these kids who are gonna be
declaring for the draft not playing in bowl games. And
that's this draft order I would think isn't gonna change
too much down the stretch. I mean, I don't see
the Giants Washington, I don't see some of these teams
winning a ton more games.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Like the order probably is what it is.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
And with Carolina and everything else, I think the pairs
almost feel pretty secure in being able to have that
number one overall pick.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I'm not sure how many more games Carolina's gonna win
this year.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
You know, It's interesting something you just said where it's like, hey,
you know, it's a little early. You know, maybe we've
got to wait to talk about the draft. I think
with the popularity of college football and the coverage that
not just in this year's draft, but in other drafts
as well too. Man, I think the draft is a
year round discussion. Like I swear to God, like we're
gonna end the season, We're gonna finish the Super Bowl,
(14:55):
and what's the next thing. We have the scouting combine
coming up, We've got free agency and all that, you know,
could impact free agency. The schedule comes out after that,
they're going to try and pit you know, they put c. J.
Stroud and Bryce Young against each other because it was
one versus two at the quarterback of spot last year
in the draft. Like, I think the draft has become
fascinating in year round conversation. And I'll say this as
(15:18):
far as the Caleb Williams stuff goes, and tell me
if if I'm reading too much into this, it does
appear like and I don't know if diva's the right term,
but it does seem like there's that element with him
and Petros has talked a lot about this and been
very critical of just about you know, the sitting on
the bench and the sideline behavior and all that. Yeah,
(15:40):
I just I wonder how much of that would impact
or would would create some reservations for a GM or
a front office or a coaching staff with hey, listen, man,
you know, maybe maybe Drake Mays a little more. I
don't know if coachable's the right term. Maybe a JJ
McCarthy or somebody like that. We'd rather go in that
direction that I have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Do you have to go in a quarterback like?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
The thing I continue to think about and I was watching,
you know, obviously we watch fields play and that he's
been a topic of conversation and just listening to Que
even talked earlier about him not having very many, you know,
weapons to throw to. To me, honestly, I believe the
best football player in college football is Marvin Harrison Junior.
(16:27):
I'm gonna continue to say it, like, I think he's
the best player in college football right now. If I'm Chicago,
why wouldn't you Why wouldn't you give him the best target,
which he's going to be a Hall of Fame caliber
level talent coming. And if you're going to bring in
a guy that you can say has the DNA and
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has the foundational pieces and components to build a Hall
of Fame, all Pro Pro Bowl caliber career off of
and do it immediately, why wouldn't you go after Marvin
Harrison Junior? Is that your bull take for this? It's
not a I don't think it's a Bowld take. If
you've been paying attention. To be honest, I would say
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I would really really think about.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
If if if Fields.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Is a indeed, like if you're going to bring in
Caleb Williams or you're going to bring in Drake May
do those guys really set themselves apart on this current
roster from what Justin Fields has been able to do
on this current roster.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Here's what I'd say in regards to that, Like, I'm
a Justin Fields fan and and so I think he
can play. I think he can do it. I think
he can be the guy. He's not Ryan Poles's draft.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Pick, though that's fair.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
So we know how that goes, right, Like like a
lot of times, when you've got a general manager, head
coach who didn't draft the quarterback, they're gonna look for
a reason to put their stamp on that guy. And
it's unfortunate. It stinks like I was a part of that.
I get that. And Fields, to me, despite all the adversity,
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he's continually improved as a pastor. I don't know that
we talk about that enough. And he's carried this team
the last two games who's let him in rushing justin
fields and he's doing enough. Like last night I sat
there and watched I said him, like, he's going to
drive them down to win, Like he will find a
way to drive them down to have a shot to
win in the end.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And he did. And so I'm with you in the
sense of I wouldn't move on from him.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
But it's going to be a topic of conversation when
you have the number one overall pick and you've had it.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Two years in a row, and you already.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Traded out of that spot to accumulate more picks and
to get a Dj Moore who's been phenomenal or at
least he's been a solid pickup for them, and how
he's helped them out.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And so maybe you stick with that same logic and
saying we'll trade out of it again. We feel good
about what we have in.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Justin fields, and we'll keep accruing picks and we'll trade
him out of the ones bought. Someone come up, take
the quarterback you want. We're still there at four, and
maybe we're still somewhere in the top ten, and so
we do get the best left tackle. We do get
Marvin Harrison junior, like, you know, maybe that works.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Out that way.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I don't know, but I think the only thing that
stares you in the face is he's not pulls draft pick.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, and he'd be coming up on his fourth.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Year, so they have to not only make a decision
on his fifth year option after this year, he's coming
up on the final year of his rookie deal, which
means he's got that extension in place, you know, or
they'll be looking at talking about an extension or pick
up a fifth year option and then talking about, you know,
maybe what that looks like a year from then. Whereas
any guy you take that's a quarterback number one overall
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or wherever they would take him. In this instance, you've
got a lease for the next three years on his
rookie deal and you don't have to worry about that
cap planning. I think those are the only two things
working against him. And maybe the talent that Caleb Williams
is or how people view Drake Man, Jayden and Daniels
in that conversation, but that that's the tough part, is
just he's not Poles guy. And again, you and I
(20:05):
have been there, We've experienced probably firsthand when you're not
a general manager's.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Galerut and you got a player like Drake May and
Caleb Williams available, that's a signature that's a signature pick
for you.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
It's also justin Fields turns the ball over way too
much in the fourth quarter. Like that's that's been a
problem in the past couple of years for him. I
think he's he's tied with Dobbs and Zach Wilson for
the most turnovers in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Okay, but that's such a misnomer of a stat, like
how many times have they been trailing? Like it was
kind of like the Philip Rivers stat. Well, he's gonna
throw a bunch of picks in the fourth quarter when
he's down. Well, of course, what would you rather him do? Like,
if you look at him, he's been much better. He's
a two touchdown to win interception ratios passing this year.
That's not including like rushing and everything else.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Like I hate us.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I hate stats like that because I don't think it's
a fair I mean, how bad has this defense been
at times this year?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
The Bears defense, Yeah, yeah, it's been pretty.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Bad, but they've been better of late.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
But I'm just saying like it's he's been in a
tough spot at times, and I just hate when people
are like, well it's fourth quarter, It's like, well okay,
Like what do you expect from a guys down like that?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Would you want to just check it down and not
have an opportunity?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Was it a protector rating? Is that what? Protect the rating?
Right now? Am right? All right? Protect that rating?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
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Speaker 5 (24:02):
It's the Player Impact Program.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Okay, yeah, oh the PGA Tour Yeah yeah pi var
Wait wait wait wait wait what what is.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Buddy?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
We go act like you said something horrible and wait
wait what is that? Yeah? The LeVar.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
We're going to try and do the impossible and get
you to care about it. Topic no, but oh no no, no, rundown.
This is applicable.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
This, this is this will work, This will work all right.
It does involve Tiger Woods, though, which I don't know
why I feel like you don't like Tiger.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Why do you always say that? Because every time you're like,
it's just not interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Now for those of you that are wondering, okay, why
would a PGA Tour topic be brought up in the
middle of a football field program here on a Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
And interest me.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
On top of that, the Player Impact Program is a
formula they came out within twenty twenty one, did the
PGA Tour, and there it's basically players are rewarded with
their impact via internet searches, unique articles, TV sponsor exposure,
general population awareness of golf fan awareness that according to
(25:15):
golf dot com, so basically, the more exposure you bring
our sport, the more you.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Market it, promote it, the more you get paid when
you're doing on your own, which is it's kind of
like like essentially like what happens in n nil right.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
In college incentive right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It's incentivizing them, like on their.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Own though, to do this and then.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
They get a reward for it.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
So a golfer who's a PGA Tour player named Nate
lastly actually leaked out the payments and so there's one
hundred million dollars perse then there's what like one hundred
and fifty tour players, well apparently only the top twenty
hundred million, and that's where there, I guess, ends up
being an issue because this PIP was created to combat
(26:02):
what's happening obviously in the live tour, where players are
getting these huge, huge, you know contracts and guarant you know,
signing bonuses if you will to come over to the
live tour. So the PGA Tour created this. Well, one
of their own players is frustrated by it, Nate Lashley,
That's why he called it ridiculous and he leaked it
out to the media so everyone could see.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I'm of the I'm of the type that, like, I.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Don't think this is a bad thing, right, Like if
your sport is threatened by another league, or I should say,
your league's threatened by another league, and you've got like
guys being poached left and right, Like, isn't this the
only thing you can do to combat it? Like let's say,
for example, of arts the NFL, and we already have
like a player performance bonus that's given to players who
(26:50):
don't have as big of a contracts. There is like
a pot of money that's shared up at the end
of the season for guys who are, you know, on
minimum deals or lesser picks and all that. But I
look at him like, yeah, this is the move you
have to make to keep the Rory mcelroys, to keep
Tiger Woods, to keep whoever you else, whoever else is
on the tour going somewhere else, Like no.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Disrespect to Nate.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Lastly, but people aren't tuning into PGA Tour events if
it's not some of those stars, the top twenty guys
that got the hundred million to tune in and watch them,
They're just not like they're not going to move the needle,
are they.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I think you gotta look at it from the perspective
of these businesses aren't going to be in the business
of giving you something for nothing. And I think to
understand it from that perspective and that angle and say, okay,
it's based off of your performance and your influence, then
if you're looking at it from that perspective, that's probably
(27:47):
what though they're selling to advertisers.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
So if I put a.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Guy on there that has no influence, no numbers, no
social influence, doesn't show the impact of what he's doing
promotionally for or the brands that are providing that money,
then you're not going to get that money. And that's
just how it that's just kind of how it works.
That's that's how nil works. That's just kind of how
it works. If you're not showing an impact, then there's
(28:14):
not going to be any money that's put into it.
You know, you can, you can, there's a lot of
comparisons in terms of how you can kind of like
look at how it's quantified. I mean, even in our business,
it's the same type of setup. If you're not able
to generate the type of attention and buy in and
(28:34):
and listenership and subscription subscribership, you know, then the advertisers
aren't going to be interested in putting their dollars, their
agency dollars into that particular show. And then that show
ends up going away. So at least you don't have
to go away as a professional. You keep playing, and
you keep playing as a professional. But you got to understand,
(28:57):
if you're looking at it from the perspective of every
body should be entitled to that money, Well, if I'm
putting my time in my effort, because who's to say
that these guys that are getting paid that money that
could be a return on the investment. They could be
using their own money, spending money on building their influence
and building their presence in order to get that type
(29:18):
of ad advertising dollars that are coming through their social
media handles. And that's so if you understand it from
that perspective, they're not giving them those twenty people that
one hundred million out of the goodness of their heart.
They're giving them money that was generated through their efforts
and through their influence of being able to sell that
advertising and get those type of dollars to be able
(29:40):
to give it back to them in the first place.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
And by the way, if I was a guy like
Nate Lashley or one of these other guys not part
of this payout, I'm looking at this going all right,
what do I have a better chance of doing beating
Roy McRoy in a major or blowing up my social
media per And this is an opportunity and invest in
it like that's the thing. People want something, But what
are you putting into it? What are you what are
(30:02):
you really putting an effort into a lot of people
don't know how to socially advertise or grow their brands,
like look for like look for an agency that knows
how to do it. Talk to your agency, like discover
how you can grow your brand social. I think this
opens up the door for for a lot of things.
As far as it's a competitive yeah, I like competitive.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Well.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
The other thing is if you're the PGA Tour and
because they're selling advertising too, they're swelling corporate sponsorships, don't
you have to provide something where you can guarantee the
top players will stay. I mean, can you imagine the
deals you'd be trying to strike with corporate sponsors and
then you lose worry macrroy or you lose you start
losing guys who are the top players to live tour? Absolutely,
(30:45):
what are you selling that? Like, like forget the side
of the players just in the way they're promoting themselves,
their brand and the PGA tour, but just from whatever
the PGA Tour is selling, Like how I mean, what's
the recourse there? If you lose some of these top players.
You have to create mechanisms to not only reward them
for staying faithful, but also performance and also highlighting it.
(31:06):
And then to make sure that your corporate sponsors is
the tour are going to be protected by this? But
it does bring up obviously the question of leadership with
the PGA Tour, and we've seen a lot of that
is coming to question. But like, I don't know enough
about any of the folks involved with the PGA Tour and.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Even have an opinion on it.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I would just say this for a player who's not
one of those top twenty, like why do they not
view it as, you know, more of a motivational tactic.
Oh yeah, Like that's what I don't get right, And
that's basically what you just brought up, right, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, I just I look at it and I go, man,
I'm not beating these guys, Like I'm We're going to
go to Augusta National and I'll be lucky if I
make the cut.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Fine, I'm going to do it again.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That that's complaining Nate late lashly Nate, how you spell
his last long?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Now? Are you going to ig look he's looking at
on social media?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, I'm looking them up because well, I mean for me,
I want to understand what he's complaining about.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
How you spell his last name?
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Lass Hilly.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Why here's the other thing.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
This isn't to take a shot, by the way, to
anyone but member of the Michael Block story. The guy
who's a pro that qualified I think was the US
Open or whatever it was. Yeah, okay, it was an
unbelievable story, unbelievable weekend, Like it made for great television.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
You know what happened after that?
Speaker 6 (32:26):
He got all these invitations to come play other tournaments,
couldn't make the cut, And so as much as it
provides an example of like, hey, any of these guys
could win any week, there's also the example of yeah,
but over the course of the entire season, there's actually
kind of it's actually not the case, like the best
players are going to the cream rise at the top.
And even though it's a good story here, like there
was a point period where it was like it was
(32:47):
too much. Like you'd see Michael Block everywhere and you're like, dude,
we get it. It was an awesome, awesome weekend, a deal.
But he's not Rory, he's not Tiger Woods, he's not Shoffle,
he's not any of these guys.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Like, let's just pump the brakes on this.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
And that's where I almost feel like some of these guys,
I don't know if it's jealousy or how almost are
you want to put it. But these are the guys
who I mean Rory in particular, who when everyone started
were going to live tour and he was adamant about
protecting the PGA Tour everything else involved. Tiger could have
gone for almost a billion, I think is what he
was potentially offered, and he stayed put.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Like you don't think those guys should be rewarded.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I don't know what they've done and.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Hung around and try to protect the tour of the game.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
The answer is yes.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And I don't even think that Nate Lashly has a
i G page. And it's funny because I'm going to
his top rated posts, and his top rated posts have
who who tagged in it? PGA Tour, PGA Ping Tour
title List, Team Titleist, Detroit Golf Club, Ping Golf Rocket Classic.
(33:53):
Now when you look at PGA Tour, you look at PGA.
PGA has nine hundred and five thousand followers, PGA Tour
has over four million, four point five million.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You know what, Rory.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
McIlroy has two point five So if you're contributing that
type of social reach and influence that represents clicks that
represents interest, that's monetized. That's monetize a bull. So if
you have a problem with Rory getting being one of
(34:30):
those twenty, get in the game.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Get in the game.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I say this to all these people out here wanting
one lost coaches to get fired from their job. You're
talking all this trash about we don't live in mediocrity
and this, that and the other. Then get involved in nil.
Get involved, put your money, put your money where your
mouth is so you can build that up. It's all
about what you're going to put into it to get
something out of it. If you're a golfer and you're
(34:55):
not going to put in the time and the effort
to build your brand, that's going to drive advertising dollars.
And don't be bitching and moaning and complaining about performance
incentive packages like I'm not in for that. Proud moment, man, Brady,
I'm not really into golf. I'm not in the golf. Definitely,
taking to our conversation.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I think I think we should get a part of
the piece of that. P I P. Yeah, saying with
p I P. Now with p I P.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Well Ton, for I know it wasn't easy for you
did a great job.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
You did a great shot.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Everything that you're doing and you know, and you applied
it to uh to there you go.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
See what get you playing?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, I'm going to start trying to learn it. I
mean I got a tight back, but you know, I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
That'll give you a reason to loose it up. The
other thing is it gives you a reason to get
outside and have some drinks.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You're there.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
It's a drinking intensive sport.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Trust me, I buy into that.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
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Would you rather your random topics?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Sports or otherwise? Lead the lab?
Speaker 5 (36:56):
What do we got?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Guys?
Speaker 12 (36:57):
We were talking golf and I've had this one for
a while. Would you rather play play around with Tiger?
Or just play around at Augusta?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Augusta? Can I opt to see option? See not none
of the above?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
What happened to you? You could have a LeVar island
every other hole? So nine LeVar islands?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
All right? Which one? Which option? On both of them?
Speaker 4 (37:21):
On both?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I'll go with Tiger.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yeah, I'd be pretty good.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
I'd rather Golfing's kind of about who you play with
more so than where you're at. There's a lot of
great course out there. Augusta is obviously the course, But
play around with Tiger be fun.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, with LeVar Islands, of course.
Speaker 12 (37:39):
Guys, which rookie wide receiver would you rather have for
the rest of their career? Tank, Dell, Pooka Nakua or
Jordan Edison.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I mean I'm not going to say him because I
can't say his name properly, so that eliminates him.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I'm gonna go with Jordan Addison.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Okay, they're they're all great players. I mean Addison and Deller.
You younger at Dellson phenomenal, dude.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I'm just gonna go with Dell, so we spread the
field here.
Speaker 12 (38:06):
Guys, would you rather save two people you love or
two hundred thousand strangers?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Two people save from dying two people love?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I mean, what is with you, dude?
Speaker 6 (38:18):
I mean it's like it's not like we're in the
presence seat.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I'm taking the two people I love.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
All those other people they should have somebody that loves
them enough to save them, and then everybody saved.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Lee, where do you go for a happy hour? A
morgue who does like death in his and every week?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Rather get your loved one
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, putties, you're listening to Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Radio Rolling Down in the Gon and the sleem and
and sow Motion.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm in like that nine and the Ocean. What you know?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
What about Roll and Down and then Dean with Chicgo
and the Kings?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Did you know about it? Brady?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
My question is, aren't we changing these up at some point?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm ready?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh you ready? You got your song?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I mean in the holster, I've got something ready to
rock good.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I've got my hammer out and I can't wait to
listen to it and just bang my own head.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Whatever song you're.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, that freaking voodoo music.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Huh, Now you're gonna I look forward to Levar's song. Obviously,
I'm gonna like my song, your song. I just try
to like not listen to.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That song. It's not for everybody, you know, Jonas isn't
for everybody.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah, Little Fear Factory Edge Crusher It Open up your Morning,
nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm gonna nail this next one though, and I got
the right song.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I'm so torn.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
I almost want to actually see if I can talk
to who does a veto? Yeah, I almost want to
talk to Vita and see if I.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Can just steal Jonas's song.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Artist. Okay, I'm gonna catch out way off guard with
what I'm going now.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Can somebody please don't make it creed? I'm done with
the Creed higher stuff.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
So let's go there. Oh God, we're not going to
make it good. Let's make our escape come over now.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Me is that.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
I'm a little concerned we will not get this in
today's program.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
So I do want to mention this.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Did anyone see the Panthers game the hockey game last night?
What happened at the very end?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
How many fights were there?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Well?
Speaker 6 (02:37):
They they gave I think it was a ten minute
and Eddie could probably speak this better than I could.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
They gave everyone on the ice ten minutes. There's only
seven minutes.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
And twenty two seconds eleven day, so essentially everyone on
the ice was done for the rest of the game
and both teams had to play shorthanded for the rest.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Let's hear from the host of the world famous Puck podcast,
Edmund Garcia and This Puck the World Report.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
What the eddie?
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Remember when we had the hardball bawl back in the day,
when when John and Jim were both in the NFL,
we had the this was the ka chuck uh face off.
I guess in this one you had the two brothers
on each side. They're both known for being a little nasty.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
I don't think they actually got into it with each
other on the ice, which was one unfortunate that would
have been that would be nice. But yeah, it was
getting out of control. The game was already decided, and
the referee was like, yeah, that's it. Yeah, everybody off
the ice. We got the SoundBite.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
Do you have the sound I had a bench shows fantastic, Eddie.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Have you ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 7 (03:44):
I don't recall seeing anything like that.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
No, that was it was like a slap shot, like
that's the only thing I could compare movie.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Yeah, it's very certainly in today's NHL, where you know,
I guess in all sports things have gotten less violent,
as we've talked about. But yeah, it's it's very rare
to see this kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Here.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Here was the here's the call here on the ice.
Speaker 9 (04:09):
Two minutes for goal tender interference, two minutes for roughing.
Florida number twelve has two minutes for roughing, and then
every player on the ice has a ten minute misconduct.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
Geez, every other player has two minutes, and there was
less than ten minutes to go, so they were all
basically they were and it was yours.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
It was for nothing Florida, which probably played a little
bit of factor too.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
In that game, was that hand.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
Yeah sure, and basically everybody, the rest of you mother lovers,
get up out of here.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I'm not going through all these numbers. That's great, all
that's that's good.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Now, it's a good point.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
LeVar has no needed really going through all ye I'm
not going to everybody else is gonna.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Well, I'm thinking about great moments in referee mic histories.
Remember there was one back in the day of the
NFL guy was talking about giving him the business.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, this definitely is. That's a historical one. The rest
of y'all, y'all got ten minutes. He gave the numbers
on like blocking the goaltender and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But the rest of y'all, y'all out.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Here, Well there was the uh. Remember this wasn't really
a call, but he was just being a wise ass
member gene Sterotor.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
He did the uh.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
He used an index card to show how far away
I think the Raiders were from getting a first down.
Just to be a smart ass, Just to be a
wise ass, I pulled out Oh yeah, like they showed everybody. Yeah,
it's this right here, this is how far it is.
Just to be a pain in the ass. But yeah,
that's funny, man. Everybody on the ice gets a ten
minute game misconduct.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Well, listen, we'll trying to follow that up here on
this show so we can get some game misconducts handed
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way tire buying should be. The New England Patriots stink
and they've got problems. Matt Jones looks like a shell
of himself. Bailey Zappy was brought into duty. That didn't
look much better on Sunday as they lose to a
(06:20):
Tommy DeVito. Tommy DeVito in company. And so Bill Belichick
spoke at a pressing operation yesterday with the media talking
about what the plan is at CORNAG and are they
planning on maybe bringing in some outside and on.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
The quarterback position.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Can you envision bring someone in from outside the organization
who would you know, get starts or time over the
next six weeks.
Speaker 10 (06:46):
Uh, yeah, I don't really see that right now, but
I mean I wouldn't rule anything out anything that would
help our team. You know, we brought in players at
any position. You never know what's going to happen. If
I think they're somebody, you know, our Scout pro Scott
Department thinks there's somebody that would help us, will certainly
listen to it and take a look at it. An
(07:06):
because it's not really about the quarterback position really be
any position, So I don't know nobody that comes to mind,
but mostly.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So there's your update on the New England Patriots and
their search for a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I mean it was down to the wire.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I was right up until kickoff, almost before they decided
they were going to make Mac Jones the quarterback and
not Bailey Zappy. And that lasted a short time and
then they pulled him and put Bailey Zappy in. Malie
Cunningham was there, not sure what happened with that whole experience.
Will Greer was there. He was cut last weekend before
(07:39):
the game. So it just feels like we're kind of
at a point where the Patriots are just sort of
destined to be one of the teams picking high top
of the draft, and you'd imagine I'm going to be
a quarterback there.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I'm starting to get almost a sense that they don't
mind that being the case, right, Like, if you have
a shot at getting Caleb Williams or Drake May, you're
probably excited about it. Like I was thinking this watching
this past week's game, going, I don't know that the
team that loses that upset about it. I mean, neither
(08:10):
team are gonna make the playoffs, and I know Daniel
Jones is still under contract. He'll probably be the stop
gap quarterback for the Giants. But in the case of
the Patriots, they get to start over and they're gonna
take one of the top two quarterbacks in next year's draft,
either Caleb Williams or Drake May Now, granted, I'm gonna
throw Jade and Daniels in that mix out Lsu. I
(08:30):
think he's I mean, he's improved so much over the
past couple of years and his ability to run, how
dynamic he's been. But also from the pocket, I mean
a he might win the Heisman be I think he's
really improved his draft stock. So I'll throw those three.
As far as the three, I think teams are evaluating
and looking at. But man, I mean, I was just thinking, like,
(08:54):
the winner of this isn't helping themselves with positioning themselves
for the future. And I know as players like, no
one cares in the roster, no coach ultimately cares considering
their job security. But I've been out of it long
enough to look at it and say, yeah, in the
in the bigger picture of the grand scheme, if Bell Bell,
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if this is Bill Belichick's last.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Year is the New England Patriots head coach.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
And his parting gift is an awful season that leads
to a Caleb Williams or Drake May or Jane Daniels
for like the next ten or fifteen years being THEIRS quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Maybe not the worst parting gift.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Right, can't be the worst part in gift. Huh?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Well, I mean, I think this season is probably a
pretty bad parting gift for Belichick, but but not.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
If it sets them up for the future.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I agree. I agree, it's not a bad parting gift. Like,
give them, give them one of those picks you can
move on into the future with, you know, really really
high prospect. Hopefully he proves out.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Is it Caleb for you guys? Or is there any
debate over the other two.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I mentioned Drake May? I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I just know they were hollering the return of Tom
Brady when Mac Jones first got there. I don't know
if people remember that when he touched down in New England,
but a lot of fanfare accompanied him coming in. And
the reason why I bring that up is I'm not
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so sure that New England is in a place personnel wise,
that you wouldn't waste the first what two three seasons
of whatever quarterback it is in Williams or you know
May that you would bring in. It would look like
Carolina for Bryce Young. I mean, if not worse or
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on par I mean, I'm not gonna say worse. I
mean it was bad enough where you know their coach
didn't even make the entire season. I don't know how
that works, but man, I mean, if I'm Caleb or
I'm Drake May, do I even want to be the
recipient and the winner of that parting gift? I don't
want that gift. Like are you able to give gifts back? Like,
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if you offer a gift, can I can I give
it back? Can we return to cender? Because I don't
know that I will want to step into that scenario.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
If so, If we list the teams off that are
going to be projected to pick a quarterback near the
top of the draft, which team has the worst personnel
to surround a quarterback? And the options would be the Bears,
the Patriots, the Commanders, and the Giants, I would say
the Patriots have the worst personnel to surround the quarterback
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of all those teams listed.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I don't know off the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I would have to look over all of those teams,
but it would I.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Think undoubtedly be the Patriots right now.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
I mean, if you go back through the back Jones interceptions,
you know he was targeting. I want to say, in
both of them, Douglas, who's you know, younger player? He's
probably the only player that's got a little burst and
popped to him now with Kendrick and Bean out, and
you could clearly tell they're trying to find some dynamic
playmaker or get the ball into one of their playmaker's hands.
But it's just tough when you sometimes rely on a
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younger player in this league and they need a ton
of help. So if the draft started today, it would
be New England drafting at three at two and nine,
whereas Arizona still has the number two overall pick. They're
kind of interesting because I think Kyler's been a lot better,
even though this past week it wasn't good. Maybe they
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looked they were looked at as a trade partner for
someone like the Giants or any of these other teams,
maybe Tampa Bays. It's a four and seven, they want
to trade up to that spot. I would think they're
a potential trade partner for both the Giants and the
Bucks in that case, looking for their quarterback of the future.
If Arizona States put with Kyler and is able to
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build out around them with that roster, with that slew
of picks, they'll get a return.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
But you'd have to think. The other interesting one is
the Bears of one one.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
I mean, they're sitting at number one that have their
pick of whatever quarterback they'd want. It is a good class,
and they pick at four. So you can't tell me
if you can get Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Junior
at one and four, it would be tough to turn
that down if you're the Bears. And remember Poles already
did this once right where he turned down last year,
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the opportunity of doing something in the draft that quarterback
to see what they'd be this year. And now, given
how bad Carolina's been, they find themselves right back in
that spot to be able to take a quarterback if
they so choose.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
So this year's draft will be fascinating. I know we
have so much.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Football left to be to be played, and it's probably
a little premature to be talking about it. But with
the college football season ending and you're starting to see
some teams now have no shot at the postseason, it
becomes more of a conversation for fodder because this is
ultimately where this is leading is teams who aren't in
it for the postseason are thinking about what's coming next
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year with some of these kids who are gonna be
declaring for the draft not playing in bowl games. And
that's this draft order I would think isn't gonna change
too much down the stretch. I mean, I don't see
the Giants Washington, I don't see some of these teams
winning a ton more games.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Like the order probably is what it is.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
And with Carolina and everything else, I think the pairs
almost feel pretty secure in being able to have that
number one overall pick.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I'm not sure how many more games Carolina's gonna win
this year.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
You know, It's interesting something you just said where it's like, hey,
you know, it's a little early. You know, maybe we've
got to wait to talk about the draft. I think
with the popularity of college football and the coverage that
not just in this year's draft, but in other drafts
as well too. Man, I think the draft is a
year round discussion. Like I swear to God, like we're
gonna end the season, We're gonna finish the Super Bowl,
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and what's the next thing. We have the scouting combine
coming up, We've got free agency and all that, you know,
could impact free agency. The schedule comes out after that,
they're going to try and pit you know, they put c. J.
Stroud and Bryce Young against each other because it was
one versus two at the quarterback of spot last year
in the draft. Like, I think the draft has become
fascinating in year round conversation. And I'll say this as
(15:18):
far as the Caleb Williams stuff goes, and tell me
if if I'm reading too much into this, it does
appear like and I don't know if diva's the right term,
but it does seem like there's that element with him
and Petros has talked a lot about this and been
very critical of just about you know, the sitting on
the bench and the sideline behavior and all that. Yeah,
(15:40):
I just I wonder how much of that would impact
or would would create some reservations for a GM or
a front office or a coaching staff with hey, listen, man,
you know, maybe maybe Drake Mays a little more. I
don't know if coachable's the right term. Maybe a JJ
McCarthy or somebody like that. We'd rather go in that
direction that I have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Do you have to go in a quarterback like?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
The thing I continue to think about and I was watching,
you know, obviously we watch fields play and that he's
been a topic of conversation and just listening to Que
even talked earlier about him not having very many, you know,
weapons to throw to. To me, honestly, I believe the
best football player in college football is Marvin Harrison Junior.
(16:27):
I'm gonna continue to say it, like, I think he's
the best player in college football right now. If I'm Chicago,
why wouldn't you Why wouldn't you give him the best target,
which he's going to be a Hall of Fame caliber
level talent coming. And if you're going to bring in
a guy that you can say has the DNA and
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has the foundational pieces and components to build a Hall
of Fame, all Pro Pro Bowl caliber career off of
and do it immediately, why wouldn't you go after Marvin
Harrison Junior? Is that your bull take for this? It's
not a I don't think it's a Bowld take. If
you've been paying attention. To be honest, I would say
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I would really really think about.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
If if if Fields.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Is a indeed, like if you're going to bring in
Caleb Williams or you're going to bring in Drake May
do those guys really set themselves apart on this current
roster from what Justin Fields has been able to do
on this current roster.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Here's what I'd say in regards to that, Like, I'm
a Justin Fields fan and and so I think he
can play. I think he can do it. I think
he can be the guy. He's not Ryan Poles's draft.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Pick, though that's fair.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
So we know how that goes, right, Like like a
lot of times, when you've got a general manager, head
coach who didn't draft the quarterback, they're gonna look for
a reason to put their stamp on that guy. And
it's unfortunate. It stinks like I was a part of that.
I get that. And Fields, to me, despite all the adversity,
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he's continually improved as a pastor. I don't know that
we talk about that enough. And he's carried this team
the last two games who's let him in rushing justin
fields and he's doing enough. Like last night I sat
there and watched I said him, like, he's going to
drive them down to win, Like he will find a
way to drive them down to have a shot to
win in the end.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And he did. And so I'm with you in the
sense of I wouldn't move on from him.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
But it's going to be a topic of conversation when
you have the number one overall pick and you've had it.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Two years in a row, and you already.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Traded out of that spot to accumulate more picks and
to get a Dj Moore who's been phenomenal or at
least he's been a solid pickup for them, and how
he's helped them out.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And so maybe you stick with that same logic and
saying we'll trade out of it again. We feel good
about what we have in.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Justin fields, and we'll keep accruing picks and we'll trade
him out of the ones bought. Someone come up, take
the quarterback you want. We're still there at four, and
maybe we're still somewhere in the top ten, and so
we do get the best left tackle. We do get
Marvin Harrison junior, like, you know, maybe that works.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Out that way.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I don't know, but I think the only thing that
stares you in the face is he's not pulls draft pick.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, and he'd be coming up on his fourth.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Year, so they have to not only make a decision
on his fifth year option after this year, he's coming
up on the final year of his rookie deal, which
means he's got that extension in place, you know, or
they'll be looking at talking about an extension or pick
up a fifth year option and then talking about, you know,
maybe what that looks like a year from then. Whereas
any guy you take that's a quarterback number one overall
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or wherever they would take him. In this instance, you've
got a lease for the next three years on his
rookie deal and you don't have to worry about that
cap planning. I think those are the only two things
working against him. And maybe the talent that Caleb Williams
is or how people view Drake Man, Jayden and Daniels
in that conversation, but that that's the tough part, is
just he's not Poles guy. And again, you and I
(20:05):
have been there, We've experienced probably firsthand when you're not
a general manager's.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Galerut and you got a player like Drake May and
Caleb Williams available, that's a signature that's a signature pick
for you.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
It's also justin Fields turns the ball over way too
much in the fourth quarter. Like that's that's been a
problem in the past couple of years for him. I
think he's he's tied with Dobbs and Zach Wilson for
the most turnovers in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Okay, but that's such a misnomer of a stat, like
how many times have they been trailing? Like it was
kind of like the Philip Rivers stat. Well, he's gonna
throw a bunch of picks in the fourth quarter when
he's down. Well, of course, what would you rather him do? Like,
if you look at him, he's been much better. He's
a two touchdown to win interception ratios passing this year.
That's not including like rushing and everything else.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Like I hate us.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I hate stats like that because I don't think it's
a fair I mean, how bad has this defense been
at times this year?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
The Bears defense, Yeah, yeah, it's been pretty.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Bad, but they've been better of late.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
But I'm just saying like it's he's been in a
tough spot at times, and I just hate when people
are like, well it's fourth quarter, It's like, well okay,
Like what do you expect from a guys down like that?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Would you want to just check it down and not
have an opportunity?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Was it a protector rating? Is that what? Protect the rating?
Right now? Am right? All right? Protect that rating?
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yours here from the tire rack dot Com Studios. Now,
I have a question for you, guys. I want you
to be honest with me when you answer on the air.
(23:54):
Are you down with PIP?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm talking about PfP.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
It's the Player Impact Program.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Okay, yeah, oh the PGA Tour Yeah yeah pi var
Wait wait wait wait wait what what is.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Buddy?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
We go act like you said something horrible and wait
wait what is that? Yeah? The LeVar.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
We're going to try and do the impossible and get
you to care about it. Topic no, but oh no no, no, rundown.
This is applicable.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
This, this is this will work, This will work all right.
It does involve Tiger Woods, though, which I don't know
why I feel like you don't like Tiger.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Why do you always say that? Because every time you're like,
it's just not interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Now for those of you that are wondering, okay, why
would a PGA Tour topic be brought up in the
middle of a football field program here on a Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
And interest me.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
On top of that, the Player Impact Program is a
formula they came out within twenty twenty one, did the
PGA Tour, and there it's basically players are rewarded with
their impact via internet searches, unique articles, TV sponsor exposure,
general population awareness of golf fan awareness that according to
(25:15):
golf dot com, so basically, the more exposure you bring
our sport, the more you.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Market it, promote it, the more you get paid when
you're doing on your own, which is it's kind of
like like essentially like what happens in n nil right.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
In college incentive right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It's incentivizing them, like on their.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Own though, to do this and then.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
They get a reward for it.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
So a golfer who's a PGA Tour player named Nate
lastly actually leaked out the payments and so there's one
hundred million dollars perse then there's what like one hundred
and fifty tour players, well apparently only the top twenty
hundred million, and that's where there, I guess, ends up
being an issue because this PIP was created to combat
(26:02):
what's happening obviously in the live tour, where players are
getting these huge, huge, you know contracts and guarant you know,
signing bonuses if you will to come over to the
live tour. So the PGA Tour created this. Well, one
of their own players is frustrated by it, Nate Lashley,
That's why he called it ridiculous and he leaked it
out to the media so everyone could see.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I'm of the I'm of the type that, like, I.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Don't think this is a bad thing, right, Like if
your sport is threatened by another league, or I should say,
your league's threatened by another league, and you've got like
guys being poached left and right, Like, isn't this the
only thing you can do to combat it? Like let's say,
for example, of arts the NFL, and we already have
like a player performance bonus that's given to players who
(26:50):
don't have as big of a contracts. There is like
a pot of money that's shared up at the end
of the season for guys who are, you know, on
minimum deals or lesser picks and all that. But I
look at him like, yeah, this is the move you
have to make to keep the Rory mcelroys, to keep
Tiger Woods, to keep whoever you else, whoever else is
on the tour going somewhere else, Like no.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Disrespect to Nate.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Lastly, but people aren't tuning into PGA Tour events if
it's not some of those stars, the top twenty guys
that got the hundred million to tune in and watch them,
They're just not like they're not going to move the needle,
are they.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I think you gotta look at it from the perspective
of these businesses aren't going to be in the business
of giving you something for nothing. And I think to
understand it from that perspective and that angle and say, okay,
it's based off of your performance and your influence, then
if you're looking at it from that perspective, that's probably
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what though they're selling to advertisers.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
So if I put a.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Guy on there that has no influence, no numbers, no
social influence, doesn't show the impact of what he's doing
promotionally for or the brands that are providing that money,
then you're not going to get that money. And that's
just how it that's just kind of how it works.
That's that's how nil works. That's just kind of how
it works. If you're not showing an impact, then there's
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not going to be any money that's put into it.
You know, you can, you can, there's a lot of
comparisons in terms of how you can kind of like
look at how it's quantified. I mean, even in our business,
it's the same type of setup. If you're not able
to generate the type of attention and buy in and
(28:34):
and listenership and subscription subscribership, you know, then the advertisers
aren't going to be interested in putting their dollars, their
agency dollars into that particular show. And then that show
ends up going away. So at least you don't have
to go away as a professional. You keep playing, and
you keep playing as a professional. But you got to understand,
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if you're looking at it from the perspective of every
body should be entitled to that money, Well, if I'm
putting my time in my effort, because who's to say
that these guys that are getting paid that money that
could be a return on the investment. They could be
using their own money, spending money on building their influence
and building their presence in order to get that type
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of ad advertising dollars that are coming through their social
media handles. And that's so if you understand it from
that perspective, they're not giving them those twenty people that
one hundred million out of the goodness of their heart.
They're giving them money that was generated through their efforts
and through their influence of being able to sell that
advertising and get those type of dollars to be able
(29:40):
to give it back to them in the first place.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
And by the way, if I was a guy like
Nate Lashley or one of these other guys not part
of this payout, I'm looking at this going all right,
what do I have a better chance of doing beating
Roy McRoy in a major or blowing up my social
media per And this is an opportunity and invest in
it like that's the thing. People want something, But what
are you putting into it? What are you what are
(30:02):
you really putting an effort into a lot of people
don't know how to socially advertise or grow their brands,
like look for like look for an agency that knows
how to do it. Talk to your agency, like discover
how you can grow your brand social. I think this
opens up the door for for a lot of things.
As far as it's a competitive yeah, I like competitive.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Well.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
The other thing is if you're the PGA Tour and
because they're selling advertising too, they're swelling corporate sponsorships, don't
you have to provide something where you can guarantee the
top players will stay. I mean, can you imagine the
deals you'd be trying to strike with corporate sponsors and
then you lose worry macrroy or you lose you start
losing guys who are the top players to live tour? Absolutely,
(30:45):
what are you selling that? Like, like forget the side
of the players just in the way they're promoting themselves,
their brand and the PGA tour, but just from whatever
the PGA Tour is selling, Like how I mean, what's
the recourse there? If you lose some of these top players.
You have to create mechanisms to not only reward them
for staying faithful, but also performance and also highlighting it.
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And then to make sure that your corporate sponsors is
the tour are going to be protected by this? But
it does bring up obviously the question of leadership with
the PGA Tour, and we've seen a lot of that
is coming to question. But like, I don't know enough
about any of the folks involved with the PGA Tour and.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Even have an opinion on it.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I would just say this for a player who's not
one of those top twenty, like why do they not
view it as, you know, more of a motivational tactic.
Oh yeah, Like that's what I don't get right, And
that's basically what you just brought up, right, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, I just I look at it and I go, man,
I'm not beating these guys, Like I'm We're going to
go to Augusta National and I'll be lucky if I
make the cut.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Fine, I'm going to do it again.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That that's complaining Nate late lashly Nate, how you spell
his last long?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Now? Are you going to ig look he's looking at
on social media?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, I'm looking them up because well, I mean for me,
I want to understand what he's complaining about.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
How you spell his last name?
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Lass Hilly.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Why here's the other thing.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
This isn't to take a shot, by the way, to
anyone but member of the Michael Block story. The guy
who's a pro that qualified I think was the US
Open or whatever it was. Yeah, okay, it was an
unbelievable story, unbelievable weekend, Like it made for great television.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
You know what happened after that?
Speaker 6 (32:26):
He got all these invitations to come play other tournaments,
couldn't make the cut, And so as much as it
provides an example of like, hey, any of these guys
could win any week, there's also the example of yeah,
but over the course of the entire season, there's actually
kind of it's actually not the case, like the best
players are going to the cream rise at the top.
And even though it's a good story here, like there
was a point period where it was like it was
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too much. Like you'd see Michael Block everywhere and you're like, dude,
we get it. It was an awesome, awesome weekend, a deal.
But he's not Rory, he's not Tiger Woods, he's not Shoffle,
he's not any of these guys.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Like, let's just pump the brakes on this.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
And that's where I almost feel like some of these guys,
I don't know if it's jealousy or how almost are
you want to put it. But these are the guys
who I mean Rory in particular, who when everyone started
were going to live tour and he was adamant about
protecting the PGA Tour everything else involved. Tiger could have
gone for almost a billion, I think is what he
was potentially offered, and he stayed put.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Like you don't think those guys should be rewarded.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I don't know what they've done and.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Hung around and try to protect the tour of the game.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
The answer is yes.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And I don't even think that Nate Lashly has a
i G page. And it's funny because I'm going to
his top rated posts, and his top rated posts have
who who tagged in it? PGA Tour, PGA Ping Tour
title List, Team Titleist, Detroit Golf Club, Ping Golf Rocket Classic.
(33:53):
Now when you look at PGA Tour, you look at PGA.
PGA has nine hundred and five thousand followers, PGA Tour
has over four million, four point five million.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You know what, Rory.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
McIlroy has two point five So if you're contributing that
type of social reach and influence that represents clicks that
represents interest, that's monetized. That's monetize a bull. So if
you have a problem with Rory getting being one of
(34:30):
those twenty, get in the game.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Get in the game.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I say this to all these people out here wanting
one lost coaches to get fired from their job. You're
talking all this trash about we don't live in mediocrity
and this, that and the other. Then get involved in nil.
Get involved, put your money, put your money where your
mouth is so you can build that up. It's all
about what you're going to put into it to get
something out of it. If you're a golfer and you're
(34:55):
not going to put in the time and the effort
to build your brand, that's going to drive advertising dollars.
And don't be bitching and moaning and complaining about performance
incentive packages like I'm not in for that. Proud moment, man, Brady,
I'm not really into golf. I'm not in the golf. Definitely,
taking to our conversation.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I think I think we should get a part of
the piece of that. P I P. Yeah, saying with
p I P. Now with p I P.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Well Ton, for I know it wasn't easy for you
did a great job.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
You did a great shot.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Everything that you're doing and you know, and you applied
it to uh to there you go.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
See what get you playing?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, I'm going to start trying to learn it. I
mean I got a tight back, but you know, I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
That'll give you a reason to loose it up. The
other thing is it gives you a reason to get
outside and have some drinks.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You're there.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
It's a drinking intensive sport.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Trust me, I buy into that.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
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Speaker 4 (36:50):
Would you rather your random topics?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Sports or otherwise? Lead the lab?
Speaker 5 (36:56):
What do we got?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Guys?
Speaker 12 (36:57):
We were talking golf and I've had this one for
a while. Would you rather play play around with Tiger?
Or just play around at Augusta?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Augusta? Can I opt to see option? See not none
of the above?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
What happened to you? You could have a LeVar island
every other hole? So nine LeVar islands?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
All right? Which one? Which option? On both of them?
Speaker 4 (37:21):
On both?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I'll go with Tiger.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yeah, I'd be pretty good.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
I'd rather Golfing's kind of about who you play with
more so than where you're at. There's a lot of
great course out there. Augusta is obviously the course, But
play around with Tiger be fun.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, with LeVar Islands, of course.
Speaker 12 (37:39):
Guys, which rookie wide receiver would you rather have for
the rest of their career? Tank, Dell, Pooka Nakua or
Jordan Edison.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I mean I'm not going to say him because I
can't say his name properly, so that eliminates him.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I'm gonna go with Jordan Addison.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Okay, they're they're all great players. I mean Addison and Deller.
You younger at Dellson phenomenal, dude.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I'm just gonna go with Dell, so we spread the
field here.
Speaker 12 (38:06):
Guys, would you rather save two people you love or
two hundred thousand strangers?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Two people save from dying two people love?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I mean, what is with you, dude?
Speaker 6 (38:18):
I mean it's like it's not like we're in the
presence seat.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I'm taking the two people I love.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
All those other people they should have somebody that loves
them enough to save them, and then everybody saved.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Lee, where do you go for a happy hour? A
morgue who does like death in his and every week?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Rather get your loved one
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