March 28, 2022 • 38 mins
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington call out Deshaun Watson for bogus answers and lies in his introductory presser for the Browns. The Giants aren't betting on Daniel Jones like the Dolphins are on Tua. Plus, an Oscars edition of the FSR IR.
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we did have a now I don't know. Remember the
Friday news dump. There was always that thing about where
stories would get leaked on a Friday because they're like,
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has killed the Friday news dump and no longer exists
because of the savages at work on the weekends of
Fox Sports Radio. You know, well, you know listen, you know,
just for four hour block on on Saturdays, you know,
for for LaVar and I just hanging out. You know,
then we got Brady. It's not enough that we do
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five days a week. They give us four four more
on Saturday. Yeah, I mean, it happens. But Deshaun Watson
had his introductory press conference with the with the Cleveland
Browns on Friday, and um it was Deshaun and uh
Andrew Barry the way GM and it was Kevin Stefanski,
(02:05):
the head coach and UH. One of the conversations we
had on Friday before the introductory press conference was that
it was a little odd that he had that mini therapists,
like like, why do you need that many massage therapist?
You know, if if nothing was going on, you know,
everything was on the up and up here, no pun intended.
Why why did you need that media that many therapists?
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And so? DeShawn was asked about the number of therapists
by the Cleveland Media on Friday. Here was his answer. Yeah,
I can't get too far into detail because there's own
going investigation still, but I can't say that with this
Nowaday and age, especially with my age group. Social media
is a big business part that goes into it, so
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that's you know, a factor into it. Whatever. I'm kyler
and uh publicist. What you want to it again? Yeah,
one one time. I'm still trying to understand what that
had to do with the question that was asked. Yeah,
I can't get too far into detail because there's own
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going investigation still, but I can't say that with this
Nowaday and age, especially with my age group. Social media
is a big business part that that goes into it,
so that's you know, a factor into it. I've convinced
here what had happened was I had heard that sound
like I had a completely different take on his press conference.
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What is it now? I mean it kind of ruined it.
That one sound bite ruined all the good will that
he had built up from the other side that I
had heard. I watched the entire thing. It's like a
little over a half hour. Um, I don't know that
it could have gone as poorly as it possibly. I
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don't know that you could have done a worse job
than what he did on Friday. Um. He also talked
about the decision to go to clear eleveland because the
Cleveland media did a great job. I mean they were
asking him all the tough questions and they asked him
they weren't nobody's kissing ass here, and they asked him,
you know, why did you choose Cleveland? Did it have
to do with the contract? Here was de Shaun's answer.
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I didn't know about the contract until I told my
agent that I wanted to come and be a Cleveland
Brown That was secondary. That was out the defect that
we spoke on the phone with A B and Kevin
and the Haslm family. That had nothing to do with
me choosing the Cleveland Browns, I mean, nothing to do
with it. So I got all right, you guys, all right,
(04:38):
that was alright. No, I was just gonna say, it's
it's hard. It's hard to understand how he couldn't could
be completely unaware of a contract negotiation going on with
the team, and one that's so historical and nature like
this one. It is the largest contract we've ever we're
(05:00):
seen in NFL history as far as fully guaranteed, a
fully guaranteed contract at signing. We have never seen this before.
And it's eighty million more than the last amount of
guaranteed money that was in a contract. So you're telling
me that wasn't an incentive to go to Cleveland, Like
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you didn't talk about this at all, even your agent
who if he if if his agent, who's one of
the best of the business, but he stands to make
about seven mill off of that, Like he's not gonna say, hey, man,
like this is guaranteed. Like you're looking at saying I'll
get two thirty million guarantee before taxes and everything else.
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I'm looking at it thinking, yeah, I'll get seven milli
out of this too, So it's a good deal for
both of us. I mean, you're saying that literally, your agent,
who probably had a hard time standing up when he
saw that contract offer come across we was so excited.
You're telling me he didn't inform you as he's a
posed to as your representation that you have a historic
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deal on the table, by the way, and no one
else is going to offer this to you. He's like,
for he's a liar, all right, let's just call he's
he's lying. It's like it's right up there with Remember
when Russell Wilson came out and said when his agent,
his own agent said that these are the four teams
I wanted to get traded to. And Russell Wilson came
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out afterwards said, oh no, that's all false. Oh so
your agent went rogue. So so without your blessing, your
agent went rogue with that, Like you had no idea,
you had, you knew nothing. That's a lie. Like so
so he it's his first introductory press conference. He gives
whatever that answer was to why he had so many therapists,
and then he lies about his reasoning going to Cleveland.
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He he butchered this, Like that's your intro. He butchers
becoming the new I like to give an honor to God,
you know who made this? Like is that the new
I lead in statement? Kids? My age you know, and
and social the social media age. We just you know,
it just it's different, it creates different you know. Is
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that the new Deal. Well, I think it's an interesting
strategy because what you're saying, like what Colin Murray said,
what Deshaun Watson is saying, is they look into the
room and they go, I don't see anyone who looks
as young as I am. So you guys don't understand.
That's exactly what that is. And that is exactly what
I wish there was like some young TikToker they're like
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therapist or or acting like their massage therapist. Hold up, bro,
I'm not scrubbing my whole entire social media clean up
stuff and then you know, after everything gets resolved or whatever,
I put it all back up like I'm that's not
what I'm doing. And I'm younger than you, like, so
what are you trying to say? But it seems like
it's a justification to not hold me accountable, Like do
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not hold me accountable for the things that I've done,
because you know what, kids my age, that's just how
we do things. That's the social media age. That's what
sounds like to me. It's it's just weird, man, the
the whole like that answer just the and look, I
don't know that it was going to be smooth. But
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I was surprised that they allowed him to sit there
and answer as many questions as he did, because I
think we were talking about it and and Brady, you
were making a point on Friday like, well, you know,
they're not going to just have you know, free reign
on being able to ask. And they did, and they
sat him up there for a half hour, and he
got bombarded with these questions and he didn't have good answers,
and I just thought he came across it was just awkward.
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The whole thing were good. Some of his his responses
seemed good, like they were candid. It sounded as though
he had control over what it is that he was thinking.
I just I don't know where I missed out on
some of these other sound bites that that you found.
But I get it you if somebody was going to
find those sound bites, it was gonna be joke. Well.
(08:58):
I just I just under like, how is this going
to go? Because I didn't expect him to be up
there actually being asked about this stuff. And and and look
he has said. One of the other quotes in there
was he said that, um, he doesn't intend to settle. Yeah.
I was just about to ask you guys, how y'all
feel about that. I know I already know where Brady's
going with this, a right, Well, if he doesn't intend
to settle, and I said, and I said that in
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last one or last week shows, like what if the
dude decides not to settle because he wants to prove
to the world that he doesn't like He said, Listen,
if I had a problem, I would get help. But
why am I getting being forced to go get help
if I don't have a problem, Like my whole thing
is okay if he's not going to settle, like and
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think about it in these terms, like for me, this
is how I'm thinking about it. If you just signed
this big ass contract in Houston and then you doubled
down and got more in Cleveland, you you pinch all
a certain amount of that contract, and you pay this
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so you can move on with your life, whether for
good or for bad, whether for guilty or innocent. That's
not what's at at play here. You're not going to
jail over this. This is purely a nuisance for him
now in terms of moving forward, to have to deal
with this. So why keep it open unless you truly
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believe you possess information that can clear you of of
what you've been accused of. I mean, if he wants
to keep going and doesn't want to settle, then get
ready for Jacoby Brissett starting week one. What I done?
What is the reason? How's he gonna play with this
stuff hanging over his head? What is the reasoning for
keeping it open? Is what I'm trying to understand. Well,
(10:49):
I think there's a lot of ways this could be viewed.
The first this once he signed that contract, I would
imagine Tony Buzzby is trying to reaffer them to the
twenty two alleged victims. There's even more money on the
table for this, whether via a settlement or whatever it
would come from it going to a trial. Right, So
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that might be one of the strategies that he has
Now in Deshaun Watson's mind and his team, they might
be saying, hey, not only did we just sign this
deal after this team and multiple teams did all their
due diligence they could about the situation and were awarded
with this. That makes me even more brazen that, like
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I can I can take this the length of whatever
I need to do because everyone else is doing their
homework and they can't find any evidence of wrongdoing of
what I did, at least not able to legally prove it. Now,
if they want to go to a trial, you know,
that'd be up for a jury to end up deciding
I assume um in a in a civil case, and
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then that could be a ton of like like, then
tell me if I'm wrong, but it could be a
ton more money that they end up awarding those victims
that that Jing sees fit to award him. That there's
a risk of that, there's a risk of a lot
of more personal information coming out. Like when you're saying, well,
he's got information that that may vindicate him, there's also
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a portion of it where you might say there's some
stuff out there that will end up being in discovery
that he probably doesn't want to get out there. I
mean think about, for example, with the deflate gate investigation
by the NFL, all the things that got leaked out
or came to light. You were like, why is this
stuff hidden? Why is this stuff becoming public knowledge? But
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that's always how it is. Like you go through a
discovery process like that and they started bringing up asking
for different things, you gotta turn it over that or
you gotta go break the phone and act like the
first place. But what was how many? How often did
he break? I mean maybe maybe that's like way if
(12:57):
he's stressing, right, he goes he goes all office space
on his on his cell phone and smashes and things
with a bat. But I mean the point is is,
in some cases, Tony Buzby might be saying, like, hey,
there's more money on the table. Deshaun Watson might be saying, no,
it's even less like whatever settlement offer we had made
or just talked about, it's gone down because you have
(13:18):
even less of a case because I'm sitting here for
thirty minutes answering questions in a public manner, like I
have no problem playing under these circumstances. You know, I
have no problem getting a historic contract from the NFL.
So there, I feel like they might even be further
apart than ever. But I mean I feel the same
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way Lavardas is like, just you know, settle the thing
and move forward, like there's no reason to leave this
lingering around unless he truly feels innocent, which I mean, look,
I'm not saying he's not innocent. I just I've never
seen it do with this many massage therapist in my life.
So I don't know what's the acceptable number of massage
therapists that you would be like, all right, everything's cool.
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I mean city or just a just in general, if
you're a massaic, if you're a massage person, it doesn't matter. Right,
you go to a city, they have a they have
a place where you can go get massages at you know, like,
what what's it called? You know, like, uh, when you
go to a right there you go. No, No, I'm
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being literal here, I'm not trying to be funny on this. Um, yeah,
you go to spalls. Like, it doesn't matter who your
massage therapist is. But when you start to talk about
relationship relationally speaking, where they're coming into your home or
you know, you're meeting them somewhere or whatever, which I
can't even imagine. Where do you meet your massage Like
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if you had a therapist, you'd either go to one
of your teammates homes where they're working on on the
guys that there's multiple tables set up. They come in,
they set the tables up there to die, or they're
coming to your home. So to me, I mean what
I think I had one massage therapist during my time.
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And when I say massage therapist, I used that very
loosely because I really only had them come to to
my home twice, I think, I believe, And it was
because my teammates were like, dude, you gotta get your
I t bands like broken up, like you're you are
so you don't even have any separation And I didn't
even like understand these terms and stuff like that. But
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let me tell you something. I did it a couple
of times and and that was kind of that was it.
And then there was a couple of times I think
I had massage therapy done at the facility and I
wouldn't even call them my massage therapist. I just they
were at the facility I had some time I went
and got it done. So to think that you're saying
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these are my like I hired these people to come
give me a service, and you're in the realm of
twenty people that you're doing that with, there's something about
what you're doing that that that keeps you going back
for more and you're searching for with different people. That's
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that's I mean, that's like if you cut to whether
he's innocent or guilty. The bottom line is there's something
about that aspect of what he gets done that he's
searching for. What it is the feeling that's connected to
him doing it that way. I don't know why you
keep like asking questions like we don't have the answer.
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I mean, it's ried here like listen, like he's trying
to explain it of our I don't know why you
just want to me. Yeah. I can't get too far
into detail because there's own going investigation still, but I
can't say that with this nowaday and age, especially with
my age group. Social media is a big business part
that that goes into it. So that's, you know, a
factor into it. And that's why I two women saying
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something different. I mean, if you really want to know
the true interpretation of what he's trying to say to you,
he's basically saying, I'm Deshaun Watson, and there's plenty of
women out there that would be okay with with hanging
out with me, and in social media makes it possible
for people in my age group. I mean, that's what
it is. It's such a bunch of crap. Talk to
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me to one, we're understanding how many massage therapists. Yes,
he already had like five come out in his defense
where there was nothing that happened. So now that takes
you to forty seven. It was just it was just
round up to fifty because it's like somebody accusing you
of being an alcoholic and twenty five different bartenders saying no, no, no,
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I certain all the time he's not a drunk, I swear,
and another a horrible day. He's a horrible He stays
uber and out of here, like I was gonna ask
this because LaVar, I think you said earlier you're like
or you said a massage therapist or like acting as
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a massage therapist, Like I want to know how this
all started? Like it was it Halloween and he like
dm someone that question. He was like a massage they
like dressed up as a massage therapist for Halloween. The
one thing led to another evolved into this and he
didn't realize what he was into until laughter it happened
Halloween could be every antetician sir like, that's okay, we'll
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figure it out. He get it on the flat like
it's it's no word. He's like he's got oil. He's
reaching out to women who don't even specialize in massages,
like that's like their esteticians. It's not a massage. They
do make up. Yeah, okay, right, Yeah. All I'm saying
is I think what he's trying to say is I
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I have access to a larger pool of groupies than
what your old heads did and which he's right, and
and and my business and the business of it that
takes place through social media is way different than what
it's ever been. He's a hundred correct on that. But
just say what you're saying. Just say what you're saying,
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I Heart Radio Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here Fox Sports Radio. You've got problems, man, You've got
some problems. I was trying to figure out why Chris
Rock put his face out there to be slapped the
way that he did. It keeps replaying on the television.
He's got a big head though, you know what it is, Brady,
(20:21):
He thought that he thought Will Smith was about to
say something to him, like whispered in his air, like
like I didn't appreciate that, or so. I don't know
what he thought he was gonna say, but it looked
like he was leaning in, like all right, you walking
up on me to say something. What a hell of
a setup. I mean, I stick my face out for
you to say something in my air on live television.
(20:43):
Or the break? Was that the break? Or was that
during the show that was live during the show. All right, Well,
it looked like he wanted to hear what he had
to say, and he took full advantage of him putting
his head out in his air out to hear what
he had to say and and took the face. It
looked like he felt like he was in a safe place.
I mean, if if a dude walks up on you,
(21:05):
to not take any posture as stance to defend yourself,
like he thought he was Superman up there, like no
one could come up there and touch and Will Smith
just went up there and slapped the crap out of him.
He did, And then I thought the Will Smith walk
after the slap was really interesting. He kind of help
dust in his jacket, like that's what I came here
(21:27):
to do, and I did it. I'm out right. He
kind of had a smirk on his face. It was
like he needed that. It was almost like he felt
like he was doing Chris Rock a service, Like someone
needs to tell us, man, you can't be talking about
people like that. And I'm gonna smack him and let
him know. Like he's like a little kid, you know,
(21:47):
he was like discipline as kid or something. Yea man,
Will dealing with let me and this was not said
during the whole entire deal. By the way, that was poor,
poor taste. It was, it was a poor decision. It
was there's no justification, but Chris Rock, it was just poor.
(22:07):
It was portant. I'm joking, I'm kid uh seriously, Like
I don't Will Smith can't do that. And I wonder
what the fallout is going to be on that, Like
does that you would have to assume that has to
alter a lot, Like would you be surprised if he
never got a big, big role stuff like this. He'll
(22:32):
get roles because um, you know, it's people are gonna
look at while he's defending his wife's honor. Even though
there's you know, a little hypocrisy. They're based on, you know,
other interviews that they've done together and some information that
have come out. But somebody, somebody a good point. Somebody
raised a good point. Somebody made a point that he
kept telling them to keep your name out of keep
(22:53):
my wife's name out of your and Chris Rock, I
think had a response ready and you can can do
on that. He was ready to say something. But somebody
made the point. I saw where they said on Twitter
they're like, all right. So basically, he's setting a precedence
that if you're if you're a comedian and you make it,
somebody can walk up on stage. It's like, what are
(23:15):
we doing here? Like it can't be the first time
to a comedian has been approached on stage. I mean
they get heckled all the time, and I'm sure there's
been people who have walked up on stage try to
do something. I thought it was interesting. Now moving forward,
you've got that some sort of security, like you can't
just be letting celebrities walk up and do whatever they
want to do, even though I promise you the producers
(23:38):
are like, this is great live content. You know, as
as much as we're talking about Will Smith and Chris Rock,
there's people behind the scenes where like we did it.
We we did it, like we we got. Everyone's talking
about the Oscars again because nobody cared about it. We
need I can't still don't care. I don't. I don't
know who won what or who. I don't care. I
really don't. I've no desire what's ever to care about it.
(24:01):
We're only talking about it because some dude who we
all know and Chris Rock got the crap slapped out
of him. Yeah, I care about it because there was
entangled story that we're connected to it, and I was
just kind of curious as to like, what what is it?
What is he's like hanging around? Yeah, I do. I
(24:23):
like to start about it a little bit, started to drink.
He's just he's like hanging close enough and prore like, oh, hey,
how you doing, Jada? What's up? That coming up? In
a twelve minutes from now, we are gonna have another
edition of the FSR I R here on Fox Sports train.
Will Smith put his hands on my face like that, Well,
(24:46):
we know he could knock out Chris Rock. I think
you're it's gonna feel like a mosquito. Can I ask
you guys this question? Um, do you believe that the
New York Giants actually feel like they've out a quarterback
in Daniel Jones? I like that, that's as smooth as
you got here. But the question, because we all know
(25:13):
that they don't. Well okay, but there, you know, we're
getting some mixed signals because the ownership is saying that that,
you know, we feel like we've got a quarterback. We've
got the name John Okay, he said, say don't do it, Okay,
just say it Jonas Mara. There you go. Okay, all right,
let's keep you. You told me Mara's during the break.
(25:35):
See like I swear to God, LaVar, you told me
Mara during the break, didn't you? With you were such
a bastard? Good? Hey, keep the Giants owner's name out
your mouth. Okay, now you brought it back. Why do
you keep stop? It's what I was saying. Tom Brady
(26:03):
is the load, the luckiest of all time. Um, it's
kind uh Do you think that they're actually telling the
truth when when they say that they've got a guy
at quarterback in Daniel Jones or is this them just
saying that because they've got a couple of picks in
the in the first round and maybe they can trade
(26:24):
out and draft a guy. What's the plan? Because I'm
trying to figure this out. It feels like the Dolphins
have have shown, hey, two is our guy. We're gonna
make this work however we can. And the Giants are
just kind of like, I mean, there's no Russell Wilson,
all the big names are off the market. We've thrown
out Baker Mayfield before is potentially going there. It just
(26:46):
feels like they're kind of stagnant there while everybody else
around the league seems to be making moves of that position.
Feels a little off. I think there's two things that play.
I think they may have misjudged what it cost to
get a Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, you know, those quarterbacks
if they're on if they're on a roster and you
feel like that's a franchise guy, we can go it
(27:08):
going and get and win right away or have a
shot and go into a super Bowl. I think they
underestimated what teams were willing to give up to get
those guys. That's the first thing. The second thing is
they're probably looking at what the Dolphins are doing and saying, well,
that's been our plan all along. We've stated that we've
messed things up for Daniel Jones. We still want to
(27:29):
see what we have in him. But their actions, it's
not gonna be so much about their actions in free agency,
because I think would help the offensively. They've got talent,
it's just it's their old line, which they could use
the draft picks for. It's the defensive front, you know,
and trying to improve on that defense. But it's it's
this fifth year option, which I don't know if they
(27:51):
have exercised that or not by now, And if they
picked that up, that will let you know that they're
in bed with Daniel Jones for this year obviously for sure,
no doubt about it, and probably another. But you know,
we could say that about Baker Mayfield. They picked up
his fifth year option a year later, and now there's
(28:13):
Deshaun Watson in Cleveland. So again, never say never in
the NFL that that's gonna be. I think the telltale
side of how invested they really are in Daniel Jones
because if they don't pick up the fifth year option,
you're like, Okay, this is like his his last year there,
like it's a make or break year. They'll use the
franchise tag if they have to. But even they're not
betting on him being able to be the quarterback they
(28:34):
hoped he would be. M hmm. I think that they
have to and just based off of what what you
just said, I think they have to figure things out
with Daniel Jones, at least in the immediate, immediate present
moment in time. Um, I don't really know where they're
(28:57):
trying to go with their team right now. You know,
you heard the rumors about they may possibly trade say Kwan,
that could have that was on the table. Uh, We've
heard plenty of of speculation and conversations about what they
may want to do at the quarterback's position. They've lost
certain players. It's just I don't I'm not really sure
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what direction they're trying to go in, because you gotta believe,
I mean, would it be safe to say that they've
been in a rebuilt since Eli has retired? I mean
even during his time there. I mean it went bad
enough where Eli just was you know, he was getting
benched or whatever. I just I just wonder how far
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into this do we say they are in this being
a rebuild, if this is a rebuild, because it can't
be anything else other than that. Right, you're not going backwards,
You're not You're not the division by far. I don't
think they're not. They're not good right now, and they
haven't shown that they're going in the right direction by
(30:05):
the results that we've seen in their games. So you
gotta ask yourself, are they are they waiting on something?
What is And listen, I played there, I don't know
what it's like now. With the front office. Ernie Corzy
is one of the most masterful gms in in our
(30:28):
game's history and was an architect of that team that
won those two Super Bowls, and even though he wasn't
there for the second one, those were largely in part
his players. I just think that they have not been
able and I know they thought they were going to
get that out of Ghettoman he was there, but they
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just have not been able to find that match, that
that balance that a Coorzi was able to help them
achieve since leaving, and it doesn't seem to be getting
more stabilized. Remember that Boat Trip playoff game they lost
in Green Bay, that was like Odell Beckham was going
(31:11):
for that. It's since that since that playoff game that
was you can't wear lugs and Timberland's on a boat.
I wasn't doing it. Wasn't one of the guys smoking
a joint too. I think there was one guy in
the boat that had a left cigarettes medicinal legal in
the state of Florida. Since that games, Since that game,
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they've got twenty two wins total. Since that game. That
was the that was the end of trip to reverse
the curse, like like their their best season was six.
Minnesota had a boat as well, and they haven't won.
What was going on in that? But it's the it
was called the vote. But what do you mean do
(31:59):
you think? Do you the boat again in order to
get like the time machine? So when you say it's
the love boat, is sitting there like that? I'm just
I'm asking because I'm curious. I don't want to hold
this conversation. You might make me uncomfortable enough. But when
you when you say it's when you say it's a
love vote, is it just they use it on st
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name out your mouth? Man? Is that you could talk
about the topics, but don't say LaVar when you do it?
All right, keep my name out your mouth, Okay, I
will keep it out of your mind. Right, very good?
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the Monday, of course? All right, go ahead, sticks, I
gotta put Chris Rock on. I gotta put Chris Rock
on the I R Man. Has he has? He released
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just release a comedy special? Like? Is that his next move?
Because everybody's I mean, that's that's a historical moment, you know.
So I don't know, but certainly his face is on
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he finally just said, let's just go to the nominees,
and uh, he was a little shook. Yeah, I have one,
got kind of a bone to pick, all right. You
know it bothers me when people pretend that they're your
friend and then you find out in crunch time when
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Um lead to laugh that rap bastard. I told him
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to Sag are the only people in the history of
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(36:00):
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years working with both of them. On Sunday nights, Lee
does a Lee does an Oscar's bracket. Don't you do
it like an Oscar's bracket or a pool like a
pick um pool or something like that. My bracket I
got sixteen out of three. It's like he's into it.
And so I tell Lee on Friday, I was like, hey,
you know, I want my watch a movie tonight. Um
showing me some recommendations like, well, yeah, I should have
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some of the ones that are nominated, and he goes, yeah,
he's all put something together. I'll let you know. Crickets.
It's it's but it's it's. He does this all the time,
Like we think. I think, oh Lee's a good guy,
We're on a great relationship, good buddy of mine, and
then he ghosts me every single weekend. Every weekend, I
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can't get any love from leading coda, see coda, see
red rocket. That's not an oscar nominated. So he's giving
it to you on air. So basically what he did,
he does basically confirmed that he don't bang exactly. The
weekend just passed. Yeahs over, I could give me mention
you need. Now we're working, man, what I gotta do?
(37:06):
Here's your movies right here while we're on here. Yeah,
I just what her. He got a bad week for
me last week. I ghosted you too, LaVar. That was
but I'm not even going to touch on it. What happened.
You're a producer, like you're supposed to be responsive. Totally ghosted.
What were you doing? And the best part is he
ghosted him and then he gave you attitude when he said,
(37:27):
he did, he pulled. He pulled your pitch card? Did ye? Laughed?
He did? What were you doing this weekend? Last weekend,
I was the I was the best man at a wedding,
and I did not wake up in time to answer
any phone calls. He did not care about waking up
(37:47):
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with something because Lee was off. And not only did
Lee not answer his phone in the bar call, he
didn't even return the call later in the day. Didn't
even like, didn't even acknowledge it at all, didn't even
acknowledge it. It's just terrible ripped on the weekend's no, no,
(38:08):
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we did have a now I don't know. Remember the
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just for four hour block on on Saturdays, you know,
for for LaVar and I just hanging out. You know,
then we got Brady. It's not enough that we do
(01:44):
five days a week. They give us four four more
on Saturday. Yeah, I mean, it happens. But Deshaun Watson
had his introductory press conference with the with the Cleveland
Browns on Friday, and um it was Deshaun and uh
Andrew Barry the way GM and it was Kevin Stefanski,
(02:05):
the head coach and UH. One of the conversations we
had on Friday before the introductory press conference was that
it was a little odd that he had that mini therapists,
like like, why do you need that many massage therapist?
You know, if if nothing was going on, you know,
everything was on the up and up here, no pun intended.
Why why did you need that media that many therapists?
(02:27):
And so? DeShawn was asked about the number of therapists
by the Cleveland Media on Friday. Here was his answer. Yeah,
I can't get too far into detail because there's own
going investigation still, but I can't say that with this
Nowaday and age, especially with my age group. Social media
is a big business part that goes into it, so
(02:47):
that's you know, a factor into it. Whatever. I'm kyler
and uh publicist. What you want to it again? Yeah,
one one time. I'm still trying to understand what that
had to do with the question that was asked. Yeah,
I can't get too far into detail because there's own
(03:10):
going investigation still, but I can't say that with this
Nowaday and age, especially with my age group. Social media
is a big business part that that goes into it,
so that's you know, a factor into it. I've convinced
here what had happened was I had heard that sound
like I had a completely different take on his press conference.
(03:33):
What is it now? I mean it kind of ruined it.
That one sound bite ruined all the good will that
he had built up from the other side that I
had heard. I watched the entire thing. It's like a
little over a half hour. Um, I don't know that
it could have gone as poorly as it possibly. I
(03:53):
don't know that you could have done a worse job
than what he did on Friday. Um. He also talked
about the decision to go to clear eleveland because the
Cleveland media did a great job. I mean they were
asking him all the tough questions and they asked him
they weren't nobody's kissing ass here, and they asked him,
you know, why did you choose Cleveland? Did it have
to do with the contract? Here was de Shaun's answer.
(04:15):
I didn't know about the contract until I told my
agent that I wanted to come and be a Cleveland
Brown That was secondary. That was out the defect that
we spoke on the phone with A B and Kevin
and the Haslm family. That had nothing to do with
me choosing the Cleveland Browns, I mean, nothing to do
with it. So I got all right, you guys, all right,
(04:38):
that was alright. No, I was just gonna say, it's
it's hard. It's hard to understand how he couldn't could
be completely unaware of a contract negotiation going on with
the team, and one that's so historical and nature like
this one. It is the largest contract we've ever we're
(05:00):
seen in NFL history as far as fully guaranteed, a
fully guaranteed contract at signing. We have never seen this before.
And it's eighty million more than the last amount of
guaranteed money that was in a contract. So you're telling
me that wasn't an incentive to go to Cleveland, Like
(05:21):
you didn't talk about this at all, even your agent
who if he if if his agent, who's one of
the best of the business, but he stands to make
about seven mill off of that, Like he's not gonna say, hey, man,
like this is guaranteed. Like you're looking at saying I'll
get two thirty million guarantee before taxes and everything else.
(05:42):
I'm looking at it thinking, yeah, I'll get seven milli
out of this too, So it's a good deal for
both of us. I mean, you're saying that literally, your agent,
who probably had a hard time standing up when he
saw that contract offer come across we was so excited.
You're telling me he didn't inform you as he's a
posed to as your representation that you have a historic
(06:03):
deal on the table, by the way, and no one
else is going to offer this to you. He's like,
for he's a liar, all right, let's just call he's
he's lying. It's like it's right up there with Remember
when Russell Wilson came out and said when his agent,
his own agent said that these are the four teams
I wanted to get traded to. And Russell Wilson came
(06:24):
out afterwards said, oh no, that's all false. Oh so
your agent went rogue. So so without your blessing, your
agent went rogue with that, Like you had no idea,
you had, you knew nothing. That's a lie. Like so
so he it's his first introductory press conference. He gives
whatever that answer was to why he had so many therapists,
and then he lies about his reasoning going to Cleveland.
(06:45):
He he butchered this, Like that's your intro. He butchers
becoming the new I like to give an honor to God,
you know who made this? Like is that the new
I lead in statement? Kids? My age you know, and
and social the social media age. We just you know,
it just it's different, it creates different you know. Is
(07:07):
that the new Deal. Well, I think it's an interesting
strategy because what you're saying, like what Colin Murray said,
what Deshaun Watson is saying, is they look into the
room and they go, I don't see anyone who looks
as young as I am. So you guys don't understand.
That's exactly what that is. And that is exactly what
I wish there was like some young TikToker they're like
(07:31):
therapist or or acting like their massage therapist. Hold up, bro,
I'm not scrubbing my whole entire social media clean up
stuff and then you know, after everything gets resolved or whatever,
I put it all back up like I'm that's not
what I'm doing. And I'm younger than you, like, so
what are you trying to say? But it seems like
it's a justification to not hold me accountable, Like do
(07:54):
not hold me accountable for the things that I've done,
because you know what, kids my age, that's just how
we do things. That's the social media age. That's what
sounds like to me. It's it's just weird, man, the
the whole like that answer just the and look, I
don't know that it was going to be smooth. But
(08:14):
I was surprised that they allowed him to sit there
and answer as many questions as he did, because I
think we were talking about it and and Brady, you
were making a point on Friday like, well, you know,
they're not going to just have you know, free reign
on being able to ask. And they did, and they
sat him up there for a half hour, and he
got bombarded with these questions and he didn't have good answers,
and I just thought he came across it was just awkward.
(08:37):
The whole thing were good. Some of his his responses
seemed good, like they were candid. It sounded as though
he had control over what it is that he was thinking.
I just I don't know where I missed out on
some of these other sound bites that that you found.
But I get it you if somebody was going to
find those sound bites, it was gonna be joke. Well.
(08:58):
I just I just under like, how is this going
to go? Because I didn't expect him to be up
there actually being asked about this stuff. And and and look
he has said. One of the other quotes in there
was he said that, um, he doesn't intend to settle. Yeah.
I was just about to ask you guys, how y'all
feel about that. I know I already know where Brady's
going with this, a right, Well, if he doesn't intend
to settle, and I said, and I said that in
(09:20):
last one or last week shows, like what if the
dude decides not to settle because he wants to prove
to the world that he doesn't like He said, Listen,
if I had a problem, I would get help. But
why am I getting being forced to go get help
if I don't have a problem, Like my whole thing
is okay if he's not going to settle, like and
(09:42):
think about it in these terms, like for me, this
is how I'm thinking about it. If you just signed
this big ass contract in Houston and then you doubled
down and got more in Cleveland, you you pinch all
a certain amount of that contract, and you pay this
(10:04):
so you can move on with your life, whether for
good or for bad, whether for guilty or innocent. That's
not what's at at play here. You're not going to
jail over this. This is purely a nuisance for him
now in terms of moving forward, to have to deal
with this. So why keep it open unless you truly
(10:27):
believe you possess information that can clear you of of
what you've been accused of. I mean, if he wants
to keep going and doesn't want to settle, then get
ready for Jacoby Brissett starting week one. What I done?
What is the reason? How's he gonna play with this
stuff hanging over his head? What is the reasoning for
keeping it open? Is what I'm trying to understand. Well,
(10:49):
I think there's a lot of ways this could be viewed.
The first this once he signed that contract, I would
imagine Tony Buzzby is trying to reaffer them to the
twenty two alleged victims. There's even more money on the
table for this, whether via a settlement or whatever it
would come from it going to a trial. Right, So
(11:12):
that might be one of the strategies that he has
Now in Deshaun Watson's mind and his team, they might
be saying, hey, not only did we just sign this
deal after this team and multiple teams did all their
due diligence they could about the situation and were awarded
with this. That makes me even more brazen that, like
(11:32):
I can I can take this the length of whatever
I need to do because everyone else is doing their
homework and they can't find any evidence of wrongdoing of
what I did, at least not able to legally prove it. Now,
if they want to go to a trial, you know,
that'd be up for a jury to end up deciding
I assume um in a in a civil case, and
(11:54):
then that could be a ton of like like, then
tell me if I'm wrong, but it could be a
ton more money that they end up awarding those victims
that that Jing sees fit to award him. That there's
a risk of that, there's a risk of a lot
of more personal information coming out. Like when you're saying, well,
he's got information that that may vindicate him, there's also
(12:15):
a portion of it where you might say there's some
stuff out there that will end up being in discovery
that he probably doesn't want to get out there. I
mean think about, for example, with the deflate gate investigation
by the NFL, all the things that got leaked out
or came to light. You were like, why is this
stuff hidden? Why is this stuff becoming public knowledge? But
(12:36):
that's always how it is. Like you go through a
discovery process like that and they started bringing up asking
for different things, you gotta turn it over that or
you gotta go break the phone and act like the
first place. But what was how many? How often did
he break? I mean maybe maybe that's like way if
(12:57):
he's stressing, right, he goes he goes all office space
on his on his cell phone and smashes and things
with a bat. But I mean the point is is,
in some cases, Tony Buzby might be saying, like, hey,
there's more money on the table. Deshaun Watson might be saying, no,
it's even less like whatever settlement offer we had made
or just talked about, it's gone down because you have
(13:18):
even less of a case because I'm sitting here for
thirty minutes answering questions in a public manner, like I
have no problem playing under these circumstances. You know, I
have no problem getting a historic contract from the NFL.
So there, I feel like they might even be further
apart than ever. But I mean I feel the same
(13:42):
way Lavardas is like, just you know, settle the thing
and move forward, like there's no reason to leave this
lingering around unless he truly feels innocent, which I mean, look,
I'm not saying he's not innocent. I just I've never
seen it do with this many massage therapist in my life.
So I don't know what's the acceptable number of massage
therapists that you would be like, all right, everything's cool.
(14:04):
I mean city or just a just in general, if
you're a massaic, if you're a massage person, it doesn't matter. Right,
you go to a city, they have a they have
a place where you can go get massages at you know, like,
what what's it called? You know, like, uh, when you
go to a right there you go. No, No, I'm
(14:26):
being literal here, I'm not trying to be funny on this. Um, yeah,
you go to spalls. Like, it doesn't matter who your
massage therapist is. But when you start to talk about
relationship relationally speaking, where they're coming into your home or
you know, you're meeting them somewhere or whatever, which I
can't even imagine. Where do you meet your massage Like
(14:48):
if you had a therapist, you'd either go to one
of your teammates homes where they're working on on the
guys that there's multiple tables set up. They come in,
they set the tables up there to die, or they're
coming to your home. So to me, I mean what
I think I had one massage therapist during my time.
(15:08):
And when I say massage therapist, I used that very
loosely because I really only had them come to to
my home twice, I think, I believe, And it was
because my teammates were like, dude, you gotta get your
I t bands like broken up, like you're you are
so you don't even have any separation And I didn't
even like understand these terms and stuff like that. But
(15:32):
let me tell you something. I did it a couple
of times and and that was kind of that was it.
And then there was a couple of times I think
I had massage therapy done at the facility and I
wouldn't even call them my massage therapist. I just they
were at the facility I had some time I went
and got it done. So to think that you're saying
(15:53):
these are my like I hired these people to come
give me a service, and you're in the realm of
twenty people that you're doing that with, there's something about
what you're doing that that that keeps you going back
for more and you're searching for with different people. That's
(16:17):
that's I mean, that's like if you cut to whether
he's innocent or guilty. The bottom line is there's something
about that aspect of what he gets done that he's
searching for. What it is the feeling that's connected to
him doing it that way. I don't know why you
keep like asking questions like we don't have the answer.
(16:38):
I mean, it's ried here like listen, like he's trying
to explain it of our I don't know why you
just want to me. Yeah. I can't get too far
into detail because there's own going investigation still, but I
can't say that with this nowaday and age, especially with
my age group. Social media is a big business part
that that goes into it. So that's, you know, a
factor into it. And that's why I two women saying
(17:00):
something different. I mean, if you really want to know
the true interpretation of what he's trying to say to you,
he's basically saying, I'm Deshaun Watson, and there's plenty of
women out there that would be okay with with hanging
out with me, and in social media makes it possible
for people in my age group. I mean, that's what
it is. It's such a bunch of crap. Talk to
(17:22):
me to one, we're understanding how many massage therapists. Yes,
he already had like five come out in his defense
where there was nothing that happened. So now that takes
you to forty seven. It was just it was just
round up to fifty because it's like somebody accusing you
of being an alcoholic and twenty five different bartenders saying no, no, no,
(17:43):
I certain all the time he's not a drunk, I swear,
and another a horrible day. He's a horrible He stays
uber and out of here, like I was gonna ask
this because LaVar, I think you said earlier you're like
or you said a massage therapist or like acting as
(18:05):
a massage therapist, Like I want to know how this
all started? Like it was it Halloween and he like
dm someone that question. He was like a massage they
like dressed up as a massage therapist for Halloween. The
one thing led to another evolved into this and he
didn't realize what he was into until laughter it happened
Halloween could be every antetician sir like, that's okay, we'll
(18:30):
figure it out. He get it on the flat like
it's it's no word. He's like he's got oil. He's
reaching out to women who don't even specialize in massages,
like that's like their esteticians. It's not a massage. They
do make up. Yeah, okay, right, Yeah. All I'm saying
is I think what he's trying to say is I
(18:53):
I have access to a larger pool of groupies than
what your old heads did and which he's right, and
and and my business and the business of it that
takes place through social media is way different than what
it's ever been. He's a hundred correct on that. But
just say what you're saying. Just say what you're saying,
(19:15):
like because some of us can can decipher that code.
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here Fox Sports Radio. You've got problems, man, You've got
some problems. I was trying to figure out why Chris
Rock put his face out there to be slapped the
way that he did. It keeps replaying on the television.
He's got a big head though, you know what it is, Brady,
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He thought that he thought Will Smith was about to
say something to him, like whispered in his air, like
like I didn't appreciate that, or so. I don't know
what he thought he was gonna say, but it looked
like he was leaning in, like all right, you walking
up on me to say something. What a hell of
a setup. I mean, I stick my face out for
you to say something in my air on live television.
(20:43):
Or the break? Was that the break? Or was that
during the show that was live during the show. All right, Well,
it looked like he wanted to hear what he had
to say, and he took full advantage of him putting
his head out in his air out to hear what
he had to say and and took the face. It
looked like he felt like he was in a safe place.
I mean, if if a dude walks up on you,
(21:05):
to not take any posture as stance to defend yourself,
like he thought he was Superman up there, like no
one could come up there and touch and Will Smith
just went up there and slapped the crap out of him.
He did, And then I thought the Will Smith walk
after the slap was really interesting. He kind of help
dust in his jacket, like that's what I came here
(21:27):
to do, and I did it. I'm out right. He
kind of had a smirk on his face. It was
like he needed that. It was almost like he felt
like he was doing Chris Rock a service, Like someone
needs to tell us, man, you can't be talking about
people like that. And I'm gonna smack him and let
him know. Like he's like a little kid, you know,
(21:47):
he was like discipline as kid or something. Yea man,
Will dealing with let me and this was not said
during the whole entire deal. By the way, that was poor,
poor taste. It was, it was a poor decision. It
was there's no justification, but Chris Rock, it was just poor.
(22:07):
It was portant. I'm joking, I'm kid uh seriously, Like
I don't Will Smith can't do that. And I wonder
what the fallout is going to be on that, Like
does that you would have to assume that has to
alter a lot, Like would you be surprised if he
never got a big, big role stuff like this. He'll
(22:32):
get roles because um, you know, it's people are gonna
look at while he's defending his wife's honor. Even though
there's you know, a little hypocrisy. They're based on, you know,
other interviews that they've done together and some information that
have come out. But somebody, somebody a good point. Somebody
raised a good point. Somebody made a point that he
kept telling them to keep your name out of keep
(22:53):
my wife's name out of your and Chris Rock, I
think had a response ready and you can can do
on that. He was ready to say something. But somebody
made the point. I saw where they said on Twitter
they're like, all right. So basically, he's setting a precedence
that if you're if you're a comedian and you make it,
somebody can walk up on stage. It's like, what are
(23:15):
we doing here? Like it can't be the first time
to a comedian has been approached on stage. I mean
they get heckled all the time, and I'm sure there's
been people who have walked up on stage try to
do something. I thought it was interesting. Now moving forward,
you've got that some sort of security, like you can't
just be letting celebrities walk up and do whatever they
want to do, even though I promise you the producers
(23:38):
are like, this is great live content. You know, as
as much as we're talking about Will Smith and Chris Rock,
there's people behind the scenes where like we did it.
We we did it, like we we got. Everyone's talking
about the Oscars again because nobody cared about it. We
need I can't still don't care. I don't. I don't
know who won what or who. I don't care. I
really don't. I've no desire what's ever to care about it.
(24:01):
We're only talking about it because some dude who we
all know and Chris Rock got the crap slapped out
of him. Yeah, I care about it because there was
entangled story that we're connected to it, and I was
just kind of curious as to like, what what is it?
What is he's like hanging around? Yeah, I do. I
(24:23):
like to start about it a little bit, started to drink.
He's just he's like hanging close enough and prore like, oh, hey,
how you doing, Jada? What's up? That coming up? In
a twelve minutes from now, we are gonna have another
edition of the FSR I R here on Fox Sports train.
Will Smith put his hands on my face like that, Well,
(24:46):
we know he could knock out Chris Rock. I think
you're it's gonna feel like a mosquito. Can I ask
you guys this question? Um, do you believe that the
New York Giants actually feel like they've out a quarterback
in Daniel Jones? I like that, that's as smooth as
you got here. But the question, because we all know
(25:13):
that they don't. Well okay, but there, you know, we're
getting some mixed signals because the ownership is saying that that,
you know, we feel like we've got a quarterback. We've
got the name John Okay, he said, say don't do it, Okay,
just say it Jonas Mara. There you go. Okay, all right,
let's keep you. You told me Mara's during the break.
(25:35):
See like I swear to God, LaVar, you told me
Mara during the break, didn't you? With you were such
a bastard? Good? Hey, keep the Giants owner's name out
your mouth. Okay, now you brought it back. Why do
you keep stop? It's what I was saying. Tom Brady
(26:03):
is the load, the luckiest of all time. Um, it's
kind uh Do you think that they're actually telling the
truth when when they say that they've got a guy
at quarterback in Daniel Jones or is this them just
saying that because they've got a couple of picks in
the in the first round and maybe they can trade
(26:24):
out and draft a guy. What's the plan? Because I'm
trying to figure this out. It feels like the Dolphins
have have shown, hey, two is our guy. We're gonna
make this work however we can. And the Giants are
just kind of like, I mean, there's no Russell Wilson,
all the big names are off the market. We've thrown
out Baker Mayfield before is potentially going there. It just
(26:46):
feels like they're kind of stagnant there while everybody else
around the league seems to be making moves of that position.
Feels a little off. I think there's two things that play.
I think they may have misjudged what it cost to
get a Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, you know, those quarterbacks
if they're on if they're on a roster and you
feel like that's a franchise guy, we can go it
(27:08):
going and get and win right away or have a
shot and go into a super Bowl. I think they
underestimated what teams were willing to give up to get
those guys. That's the first thing. The second thing is
they're probably looking at what the Dolphins are doing and saying, well,
that's been our plan all along. We've stated that we've
messed things up for Daniel Jones. We still want to
(27:29):
see what we have in him. But their actions, it's
not gonna be so much about their actions in free agency,
because I think would help the offensively. They've got talent,
it's just it's their old line, which they could use
the draft picks for. It's the defensive front, you know,
and trying to improve on that defense. But it's it's
this fifth year option, which I don't know if they
(27:51):
have exercised that or not by now, And if they
picked that up, that will let you know that they're
in bed with Daniel Jones for this year obviously for sure,
no doubt about it, and probably another. But you know,
we could say that about Baker Mayfield. They picked up
his fifth year option a year later, and now there's
(28:13):
Deshaun Watson in Cleveland. So again, never say never in
the NFL that that's gonna be. I think the telltale
side of how invested they really are in Daniel Jones
because if they don't pick up the fifth year option,
you're like, Okay, this is like his his last year there,
like it's a make or break year. They'll use the
franchise tag if they have to. But even they're not
betting on him being able to be the quarterback they
(28:34):
hoped he would be. M hmm. I think that they
have to and just based off of what what you
just said, I think they have to figure things out
with Daniel Jones, at least in the immediate, immediate present
moment in time. Um, I don't really know where they're
(28:57):
trying to go with their team right now. You know,
you heard the rumors about they may possibly trade say Kwan,
that could have that was on the table. Uh, We've
heard plenty of of speculation and conversations about what they
may want to do at the quarterback's position. They've lost
certain players. It's just I don't I'm not really sure
(29:21):
what direction they're trying to go in, because you gotta believe,
I mean, would it be safe to say that they've
been in a rebuilt since Eli has retired? I mean
even during his time there. I mean it went bad
enough where Eli just was you know, he was getting
benched or whatever. I just I just wonder how far
(29:44):
into this do we say they are in this being
a rebuild, if this is a rebuild, because it can't
be anything else other than that. Right, you're not going backwards,
You're not You're not the division by far. I don't
think they're not. They're not good right now, and they
haven't shown that they're going in the right direction by
(30:05):
the results that we've seen in their games. So you
gotta ask yourself, are they are they waiting on something?
What is And listen, I played there, I don't know
what it's like now. With the front office. Ernie Corzy
is one of the most masterful gms in in our
(30:28):
game's history and was an architect of that team that
won those two Super Bowls, and even though he wasn't
there for the second one, those were largely in part
his players. I just think that they have not been
able and I know they thought they were going to
get that out of Ghettoman he was there, but they
(30:51):
just have not been able to find that match, that
that balance that a Coorzi was able to help them
achieve since leaving, and it doesn't seem to be getting
more stabilized. Remember that Boat Trip playoff game they lost
in Green Bay, that was like Odell Beckham was going
(31:11):
for that. It's since that since that playoff game that
was you can't wear lugs and Timberland's on a boat.
I wasn't doing it. Wasn't one of the guys smoking
a joint too. I think there was one guy in
the boat that had a left cigarettes medicinal legal in
the state of Florida. Since that games, Since that game,
(31:38):
they've got twenty two wins total. Since that game. That
was the that was the end of trip to reverse
the curse, like like their their best season was six.
Minnesota had a boat as well, and they haven't won.
What was going on in that? But it's the it
was called the vote. But what do you mean do
(31:59):
you think? Do you the boat again in order to
get like the time machine? So when you say it's
the love boat, is sitting there like that? I'm just
I'm asking because I'm curious. I don't want to hold
this conversation. You might make me uncomfortable enough. But when
you when you say it's when you say it's a
love vote, is it just they use it on st
(32:22):
name out your mouth? Man? Is that you could talk
about the topics, but don't say LaVar when you do it?
All right, keep my name out your mouth, Okay, I
will keep it out of your mind. Right, very good?
Thank you you guys got that? Thank you, there's a drop,
Thank you? All right. It is two Pros and a
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R report? All right, let's who's got what? Anybody want
to report? Anything here? I get off their chest on
the Monday, of course? All right, go ahead, sticks, I
gotta put Chris Rock on. I gotta put Chris Rock
on the I R Man. Has he has? He released
(34:55):
his statement? What do you think he does? Does he
just release a comedy special? Like? Is that his next move?
Because everybody's I mean, that's that's a historical moment, you know.
So I don't know, but certainly his face is on
on this week's IR list, he said afterwards, the greatest
night in the history of television. Chris Rock did and
then and then stumbled through his um you know, trying
(35:17):
to name off I think they were doing documentaries, and
he finally just said, let's just go to the nominees,
and uh, he was a little shook. Yeah, I have one,
got kind of a bone to pick, all right. You
know it bothers me when people pretend that they're your
friend and then you find out in crunch time when
(35:38):
you need him you only have sort of a limited
relationship when you think the relationship is that much more.
Um lead to laugh that rap bastard. I told him
he's Mr Movies, asked Brady lead to Lap and Steve
to Sag are the only people in the history of
sports talk radio they give a rip about the Oscars
(36:00):
and Brady and I had to suffer through that for
years working with both of them. On Sunday nights, Lee
does a Lee does an Oscar's bracket. Don't you do
it like an Oscar's bracket or a pool like a
pick um pool or something like that. My bracket I
got sixteen out of three. It's like he's into it.
And so I tell Lee on Friday, I was like, hey,
you know, I want my watch a movie tonight. Um
showing me some recommendations like, well, yeah, I should have
(36:23):
been that I was like throwing me some recommendations for
some of the ones that are nominated, and he goes, yeah,
he's all put something together. I'll let you know. Crickets.
It's it's but it's it's. He does this all the time,
Like we think. I think, oh Lee's a good guy,
We're on a great relationship, good buddy of mine, and
then he ghosts me every single weekend. Every weekend, I
(36:44):
can't get any love from leading coda, see coda, see
red rocket. That's not an oscar nominated. So he's giving
it to you on air. So basically what he did,
he does basically confirmed that he don't bang exactly. The
weekend just passed. Yeahs over, I could give me mention
you need. Now we're working, man, what I gotta do?
(37:06):
Here's your movies right here while we're on here. Yeah,
I just what her. He got a bad week for
me last week. I ghosted you too, LaVar. That was
but I'm not even going to touch on it. What happened.
You're a producer, like you're supposed to be responsive. Totally ghosted.
What were you doing? And the best part is he
ghosted him and then he gave you attitude when he said,
(37:27):
he did, he pulled. He pulled your pitch card? Did ye? Laughed?
He did? What were you doing this weekend? Last weekend,
I was the I was the best man at a wedding,
and I did not wake up in time to answer
any phone calls. He did not care about waking up
(37:47):
in time to answer Bart, and Bart needed his help
with something because Lee was off. And not only did
Lee not answer his phone in the bar call, he
didn't even return the call later in the day. Didn't
even like, didn't even acknowledge it at all, didn't even
acknowledge it. It's just terrible ripped on the weekend's no, no,
(38:08):
not not not not not anymore. No, no, no, no. Okay,
So I've had this on the lap, still tending to us,
but you know, social media, and yeah, I'm not gonna
go too deep in what I do on the weekends
(38:29):
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