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Speaker 3 (00:37):
All right, good, good morning. It's a uh, it's a
football morning. It's in the air. We're feeling it. After
the first preseason week it was great and now we
look to week two. This is Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
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than my man, Brian Baldanger. Baldy, what's up, brother.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
God, Good morning to you. Brady. How you guys doing today? Man,
I'm doing well. Good to be with you.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Doing well, Baldi. Thanks for joining us, brother, so you've gone.
It was at fourteen teams and thirteen days. Is that
the that I saw.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
That's what I did, Brady. I was able to do
both the Ravens and the Jets in the same day.
On a couple Saturdays ago. I did the Jets in
the morning. Then I got my little car and head
down the turnpike and I got to Owen's Mills to
see the Ravens. So I got two teams one day.
But yeah, I went two straight weeks. Just wanted to
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see camps, see these guys, talk to the coaches, and
so it was pretty good, pretty good little stretch right there.
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Speaker 4 (02:11):
All right. Give me, give me.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
The three things that really stood out for you, Baldi,
of these cats, stuff that you really liked.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Well, I mean, you can't go to Baltimore. I was
in Baltimore twice. Actually, you can't go to Baltimore and
just not admire Lamar and just what he makes everything
look easy. And he's the best athlete on the field.
I mean, I know we know that, but when you
watch him sometimes when you watch players practice, it's different
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than the games. It's just more natural, it's more reactive.
It's just they're they're just out there having fun. I mean,
you can't. You can't go to Baltimore not see Lamar
and just kind of marvel at his talent. He's only
twenty eight years old and he's still you know, I
think he's still getting better. I think that's one I think.
You know, watching Ben Johnson coach Chicago, I talked to
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a lot of veterans there, Montes Wet, a lot of
different guys. They they've been in the league a long time,
They've never gone to a training camp like that. Uh
As physicals was every you know, every practice they were
in full pads, Every drill was full contact. And so
I think Chicago just to coaching. I'm not saying that
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they're going to make a leap this year, you know,
to take the division, but they're gonna be a tougher
team all the way around. And we I think we
saw that in the goal line stand against Miami the
other night. And then I haven't been to Philly yet,
but I would say the other team that that caught
my eye was just how talented the Vikings are and uh,
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I don't know about the quarterback yet. Nobody really knows yet.
But everything around the quarterback is built for success, my
offensive line to depth on defense, uh, to the coaching.
I mean, Minnesota is an impressive place to see.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Yeah, I'll see Kevin O'Connell's done an incredible job there, Baldy,
as you know.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
I mean it in years where you're like, all right,
what's this year going to be like? And they go
rip off? You know, thirteen and fourteen wins.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Was there a player that stood out to you that
you came away thinking like, I like, that guy's gonna
do something this year.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Like I didn't. I didn't think that coming into it.
But he's flying under the radar. That guy's going to
do something or be something this year.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Well is Patrick Paul for the Miami Dolphins. You know,
Toront Armstead retired and U Miami is doing everything it
can to build a tough offensive line and to be
tough for all the way around, run the ball better.
But Patrick Paul left tackle, I mean, he has everything
it takes. Brady to be as good as he wants,
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and I think he wants to be really good. He's
a great kid. He's only a second year player. He
started three games as a rookie last year for Armstead,
but he's enormous. He's got the longest arms of anybody
I've seen. I think he has a chance to be
a really good player. His brother plays for Washington offensive
lineman for the Commanders, and Bobby Johnson, the offensive line
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coach up there, said he's the strongest guy on the team.
I mean, they've got some bloodlines there in the Paul family,
and I would say, I mean, I know you're down
in South Florida. But he had a chance to watch
his kid play. He's number fifty two to the left ackle.
He had a really good debut. You know, in the
first preseason game. I thought he was really good. So
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that's the guy that caught my eye and keep the
kids catching my eye.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Let's go quarterbacks, Baldy and some of the young quarterbacks.
Obviously we'll start with Shador. We'll talk about Dart Shock.
After going through all the tape with Sad Shad or
what did you see?
Speaker 5 (05:47):
He made really good He made really good decisions. I
mean the two touchdown throws, they're both completely different. One.
He's got a really layer the throw between two defenders
that are squeezing, you know, Caateen Davis the receiver in
the end zone. It's a touch throw going to his left.
He's got a square his shoulders and it's a tight spiral.
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It's perfect, you know. And then the second touchdown to
Kate and Davis, I mean the blitzing right up the
right in the eight gap right there from the Mike
linebacker and he trusted them back to come over and
picked him up. He didn't panic, he didn't scramble, He
just basically parried the punch step to his right set
of feet and just threw a dart blowing away from
the defender. I mean, those were great throws. And then
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you know, a couple of the other throws that he
did throughout throughout his you know, forty nine snaps were
really impressive. And so I thought he played with a
lot of poise and saw the field really really well.
And the accolades that he's receiving right now off one
preseason game, he probably deserves them.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yeah, it feels like a lot of the things that
when you watched him in college and they were translatable,
they were on display in the preseason game. You know,
his poise under pressure's poison thee. I love the fact
that he got out and ran more because I always
thought in college at times he left yards out there
where he'd be kind of hanging, hang and hang and
hanging and try to take a big swing downfield. And look,
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with the receivers he had in college, it makes sense.
But I kind of kept thinking to myself, like, he's
a better athlete that I think people realize. And at
least he displayed that ability, you know, scrambled around a
little bit. But what was your general feeling, you know,
just looking at the Browns this year. I mean, obviously, look,
I was drafted there before that grew up A big
Browns fan, will always be a big Browns fan is
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this year because it feels like that's a that's a
place where they've got so much talent boldy. It just
comes down to like, can they get someone to execute
at the quarterback splot splash?
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Can they stay healthy? They've been riddle with injuries to
the past couple of years.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Well, and to day, I always say, Brady, they lost
to Martin Emerson junior. For the year, it was a
really good corner. Jim Schwartz loves to play a lot
of pressing man coverage and he was excellent at it.
So they lost him to the achilles injury the day
I was there. So that was a tough loss.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
You know, it's it's hard right as you as you
can imagine trying to work in four quarterbacks. And you know,
Thickett has been banged up. He's not going to play
this week against the Eagles. Dailly Gabriel similar type of
injury to hamstring. They're scrimmaging twice against the Eagles on
Wednesday and Thursday. I'll be out there Thursday watching it.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
It's Flacco wants to play. He wants to play in preseason.
He says he needs a rep. So I don't know
if we're going to see him this Thursday night, but
you're it's gonna get a lot of chances. You know,
if these guys don't play this week, doesn't look like
Stefanski is gonna let them play or they're not going
to be able to They're gonna you know men right now.
So I mean it might be just a two quarterback
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competition right now. Maybe Shador can have another impressive showing
against a really good Eagles scene really good, talented defense.
I think will play some of their guys this week.
So but my general feeling is they're not in the
class of Baltimore or Pittsburgh right now, and so I think,
you know, while they might improve, I don't know that
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the record is going to be a whole lot better.
I mean, they might win a couple more games, but
I don't think they're ready to compete with Baltimore and
Pittsburgh in that division.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Wealdy Jackson dark did some good things. I thought it
climbed the pocket. Well, what was your observations there?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I thought he was terrific. Yeah, really good. He had
a chance to play a lot and took advantage of
his time. The touchdown throw to a little Jordan Humphrey
was you know, I mean, Brady will tell you. I mean,
see that guy open now, and it was a perfect
throw on a go route and he was under pressure.
He got hit on the play. They're coming, you know,
right at him, and he stood in there, stood tall,
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made the throw and it was a great throw. So
that you know that he always sort of looking at
the touchdown throws because that's what it's about. But he
did a lot of little things. I mean, you know,
I had some quick pressure on him. He was able
to protect the ball, get the ball out. You know,
he climbed the pocket when he needed to, like you said,
cuz under duress, but yet still was able to avoid
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any type of a sack and gain some yards. And
he moved the team. He's you know, they scored on
three of his drives and so ultimately is the team
responding to you and he did. Now, when you're around
the kid, he's he's he's a fun guy to be around.
He's got a big smile on his face. He loves football.
He's very respectful of the game, the coaches. He's putting
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the work in. You know, I'm gonna go see him.
They scrimmage the Jets tomorrow. I want to go up
there and watch him against the Jets and just see
how he is, you know, in a practice situation, scrimmage
type situation. But you know, he caught everybody's attention because
they have a chance. They have a chance to be
pretty good. They played Washington week one. I'm not giving
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Washington a complete w right now. They're gonna be a
much better team at every position, including the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Legit. Oh yeah to front legit man.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yeah, hey boy, just because of what they're doing is
Abdul Carter. I mean they're moving him around. He's a joker.
He played six snaps the other day. He won all.
He won three of the six snaps. He beat Deon
Dawkins clean twice. So you know, he's a Pro Bowl
left tackle. We have a great deal of respect for Dion,
but he is he's slippery now and he knows how
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to gets to the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Yeah, he's a special talent. I want to ask you
about just the Saints.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
I believe you spent some time down there too, and yeah,
that's that's a team that, like, I don't know if
there's any less buzz about where they're at right now.
It feels like but but it feels like, uh, maybe
Tyler Schuck will be the answer at least based on
some preseason I know he struggled a lot in camp,
at least leading up to the first preseason game, but uh,
kind of came out on the other side. I'm not
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sure if there's an answer there a quarterback. But just
overall thoughts on the Saints that this season, with what
you have seen so.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Far, well, I think the the buzz is Kellen Moore. Honestly,
Brady like that guy. He's just a sharp, sharp coach.
They had one hundred and twenty six. I can't even
believe I'm saying they had one hundred and twenty six play scrimmage.
The day I was there, it was a Sunday and
it was in. It wasn't the soupy conditions that were
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used to seeing in New Orleans that time of the year,
but it was hot. They ran one hundred. They ran
two plays, two games of plays. I still behind Kellam Moore.
He called every play for two hours and fifteen straight minutes.
I watched all the quarterbacks play and shuck impresses. You're
Brady from his size, I mean, he's every bit of
six five. He's got a good arm, and he can move,
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he can really run. So just the tangibles are there
now the decision making. He saw the pick six the
other day. You know, it was a lazy out, you know,
kind of prescripted to throw, and he really telegraphed it,
you know, and he got he got it picked. A
lot of corners would love to, you know, get a
throw like that thrown out. But then he came right
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back to next stride and he'll hit Milton Tipton on
a touchdown throw which was beautiful. So he didn't hang
his head and he didn't, you know, go into the
dumps after the pick six, he came right back. I
think he's going to be their Day one starter. It's
just there's nothing against Spencer Rattler. He just doesn't have
He doesn't have the size and then they have the
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movement that Tyler Shuck has. They're booked about the same.
I know Spencer played last year, but he only played
I think four games. They weren't very good. All the
receivers were hurt at the time. The offensive line, Brady
will be good, uh Kelvin banks Alanga like, they're gonna
be good up front. I think they're gonna be able
to run the ball. Okay, they got speed at receiver.
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I mean, I think they're gonna be a little bit
better if the quarterback play can be improved a little
bit right now. And I don't know that Tyler Shuck
is the long term answer or Spencer Rattler is. I'm
not sure if any of those guys are. But they're
gonna be a little bit better. If they stay healthy
up front, they should be a little bit better than
they were last year.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I do think Hellum knows this is a tear down
like that, this is what it is. That they're going
to go through some some real growing page before they
can turn this thing around.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I don't know how he looks. He's a very positive
guy and the guys do listen to him, and he's
not like but he's not like this phony like you know,
he's not a rob rock guy at all. He's just
very dogmatic about what he believes in. And I think
he's got a good staff and so I think everybody's
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looking to him to see if, you know, they believe
in what he is saying and what he is teaching
him right now. And so maybe there's growing pains there.
But at the same time, the team is following with
I mean, I just see anybody laying down on one
hundred and twenty six place scrimmage. I mean, they knew
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what they were in for. I mean, that's that's not
easy to tell. Uh, you know, some of the veterans
Tomorroo Davis or Cam Jordan like this what we're doing today.
But that's what they did, all.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Right, let's stay with talk about Kelly Moore. Let's go
to the defending champion Eagles. They dodged a bullet landed Dickerson.
There was some real scare as to what was wrong.
At first they thought it was the ankle and maybe
achilles Liz franked. Then it was the knee. It turns
out to be a meniscus. They're hopeful he plays that huge,
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great offensive line. Uh he's a big stalwart, big piece
of it.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Because Landing is always hurt. He's always hurt. But there's
just nothing new. The guy just plays through this stuff.
He played hurt at Alabama. He's played hurt his whole life.
Like he's played with broken fingers and he dislocated elbows.
Like it's just he's just a big old country boy.
You know. Give him, give him a room to go
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rebuild like he's fin You know, the guy could build anything.
The guy who's gonna be eating you know, hot dogs
on the sideline, he's gonna be out there. I believe
he's gonna be out there Week one against the Cowboys.
If he doesn't play the Cowboys, he's got ten days
to get ready for the next game. He's gonna be
out there. It's just it's just who he is. Like, yeah,
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it's a scare, but he's not gonna miss a lot
of games.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Hey, Baldy. Last one for me.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Curious about the Jets again, new head coach, new quarterback,
a lot of talent though throughout that roster.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
What do you see from the Jets this year?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
I'm gonna see him tomorrow, Brady. You know, it's interesting
under Robert Syle. I'm not here to throw him under
the bus, Brady, but they never had any officials out
at practice, and Aaron like, Aaron Glenn's like, we're not
doing what The Jets led the league in penalties last
year and penalty yards and pre set penalties. They were
atrociouses And they had a couple of the other nights
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the other day and he was going balliitic on the sideline.
I think they're gonna be better from that department. They're
not going to beat themselves as badly as they did
last year. The offensive line played very well up front.
Joe Tipman went from center to left guard the other
day and he looked really good at guard. Member looked good. Uh.
I think they're gonna be able to run the ball
pretty good. You know. I think what we saw from
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Justin Fields is what we're going to get. I don't
think he's gonna wow you with a lot of great
decisions in great touch, but he's a great athlete. He's
gonna make the throws that are there. And then defensively,
I think they're gonna be really sound. I don't think
they're great defensively. I don't think they have great depth
on the defensive line. But Jamaine Johnson coming back, if
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he's really healthy, is going to help them a bunch.
But I think they're gonna be you know, they'll probably
compete with Miami for that number two position in the
AFC East. Right now, all.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Right, pauldy, Uh, cowboys, What in the world is happening
down there?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Well, it's what you usually has happened, you know. I mean,
they don't. Michael Parsons has been the best player since
the day stept on the field four years ago. And
for them not to recognize that and not get the
deal done. When Miles Garrett gets his done and Max
gets two of his deals done, he's got two Max
contracts since he's been there in the Raiders stink, you know,
and have been bad for them not to recognize that
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about Micah and just take care of him is kind
of ridiculous to me. But I don't think you know,
if they won seven games last year and they were
really an injured team losing a lot of good players
too much of the stretch, they look like the third
best team in the division right now and a team
that will struggle to get over five hundred at this point.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Wow, what do you think he shot in Humer?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
I like Brian personally. I don't know that. I don't
know what he's going to be like as a head coach,
but he's been solid as a coordinator, and I like
his acumen and his belief system, and I like the
way he coaches, you know. I mean, he's not his
father by any stretch, but he's learned a lot from
his dad. So I would say that, you know, he's
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he's got to give him a chance to go see
what he can do right here. But you know, it's
about control down there in Dallas, and Jerry wants to
control Brady.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Baldy and I live near each other, right There's no
better house than Baldy's house. It's like out of like
this Huskin countryside he's got.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Like a green house.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
He's got this big pool and by the way, there's
always people at the pool. Yeah, right, this is the
greatest house. He's got a coy pond, like you governed.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
His house hold on Boi, I have to I have.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
That's where I have to inquire a little bit deeper
here about the coy pond. Because LeVar, who usually is
on the show, he had a coy pond back when
he was with Washington and fortunately there was a storm
the you know, they didn't have a generator. The generator
and went out and all koi pa koi and up
dying in the kopan. Now the problem is he hit
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a coy pod inside his house, Baldy, So you can imagine.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
A stench I smell, which which Look, where's your coy pon?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, my koi pon is in the back of of
my back garden, uh, next to my fire pit back there.
The koi is not getting inside the house. Every once
in a while, you know, every once in a while,
a blue heron will come down and you know attack,
you know, a koi fish. I've got these nets up
that you know, kind of prevent that, and a koi
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will die for different reasons. But I would never ever
put a coy pond in the house for that reason.
But this this year, the koi looked fantastic. They they
bread over the winter. They're getting big. Uh, there's a
bunch of different colors out there. Right now, I'm going
back to when I hang up here, I'm going into
the back to check it out and just see how
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the the benchince. I've been in La the last four days.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Your whome?
Speaker 7 (21:09):
How are you be home for?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I'm here to see these scrimmages and I gotta go
back to La on Friday.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Oh. Man, he's my it's my escape house.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Ball Brady, I was just say, where where's the invite?
Ball do you gotta get? You got over there?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Man? Well, he said, he's had some moments over here.
We've done a few things in the backyard.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You're in the best brother bas Palace.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah, man, Ball.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Dude, it's like to playboy manson and listen. I live
a Monday life. Father.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I coached football, basketball, baseball right like, I'm just and
so it's great to go over Baldy's house.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
And you know, you can always.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
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All right, brother, uh, we got to go. When you
look at Dallas and you look at the Cowboys, how
do you how do you kind of make sense of
the whole thing? Look, I know we get into Jerry
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and and you know how maniacal he is for control
and everything else. But seriously, where this franchise is. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
It's hard for me to understand it.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
You know, it feels like every single offseason we're having
an issue with a contract negotiation for a player that
the dealers have already been done by. Now you know
dak CD, now it's Micah.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
And these are homegrown.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Guys, right, I mean every one day if you you know,
had an issue, you know you're training for a guy.
Maybe you don't really know them as well or the
backstory on them. But all these guys, they did so
much behind the scenes to draft them in the first place.
Then you get them in your organization, you'll you watch
them grow up into superstars and you let this stuff
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drag on and you know it's only going to get
more expensive.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
So look, everyone seems to.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Tell me that it's all about this is all about
you know, them just kind of keeping the Cowboys out
there in the headlines, you know, keeping everyone talking about
the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
It's good for the brand. I just have a hard
time believing that, you know.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
To me, it just it shows a level of dysfunction
that still must exist, or an inability to want to
get business done the way it should be done. And
maybe you know, he's look, Jerry Jones is a maverick
in some ways. He's done a lot of things in
his life the way he wants to do it. But
I look at this and say, it's a distraction, you know,
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from and it away from your pursuit of a Super Bowl,
something that you've struggled really to do in the past
thirty years. So that's the tough thing for me.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Aunt.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, and you know what's going to have liquerary effects
around the league. I mean, guys, look at that and
you go, if I'm a great player, you're not going
to pay me, and you're going to go, you're going
to circumvent my agent and try to get a deal done.
I mean, all that stuff is just outrageous. Not to
mention that. Explain to me how they're built. Explain to
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me what they're doing running back.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Right, Well, no, I think that's the hard part is
some I mean, look, you ask Pete Prisco, who's coming
on with us in the next hour.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
He'll tell your running backscrowing trees, you have to worry
about spend a lot of money on them.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I mean that.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
You know, you hear guys like that say that, but
the reality is you do need some some guys. I mean,
you look at the Eagles, for example, they go out,
they spend on Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
You know, it helps equate them to it, you know,
to winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
So and then that's a division. So you know, I
don't know why the Cowboys aren't taking one. Maybe out
of the the Eagles playbook in this case, maybe they
felt like they got burned a bit by the Zeke
Elliott deal and and that's led them to not do
these deals earlier because they did that with Zeke and
made that I don't want to say a mistake, but
it was their choice, and looking back on it, you
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know that was he had he had already played his
best football for him. So that's the hard part for
Dallas is I don't really know how you how you
look at how they've conducted themselves and and say it's
anything other than try and get clicks, trying to get attention,
trying to get the headlines, and not necessarily focused on football. Mean,
and you could go back and you know Baldy who
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just joined us, talked about Brian Schotenheimer. Well he's not
his dad. It's like, you know, you look at that,
this decision for him to become your head coach and
moving on from Mike McCarthy, a guy who's won that
Super Bowl, He's been there, done that, And you sit
there and say, well, what was the rationale again, Like
they move on from Mike McCarthy just yet did he
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have a window of time that we were all unaware
of in order to win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 7 (27:06):
And it didn't work? So they have to move on?
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Like I sit there and just wonder, like what happened
behind the scenes with that to lead them to bring
in a guy and I guess elevated guy and Brian Schotenheimer,
when they you know, could have missed out on having
a guy like Dan Quinn. I mean, if the guy
you really liked was sitting as your defensive coordinator, maybe
they should have made them move two years ago.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
That was the thing that shocked me, right, is that
you let Quinn walk and then you get rid of
McCarthy later.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
That made no sense to me.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Yeah, I mean, there's not a lot they're doing right
now that makes a ton of sense. But they are
the most valued franchise in sports, so it's hard to
it's hard to argue with whatever madness is gone and
how it is equated to it.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
I mean, I just know this.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Did you see the highlight of Ceedee Lamb getting the
penalty after he got jacked up by that ref this
past weekend?
Speaker 7 (28:01):
I just I hope that's not an omen for them.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Like if I'm a Cowboys fan and I see that,
I'm thinking to myself, like, this is not gonna be
a good year for us, you know, if our if
our star players are getting taken out by an official
on the sidelines and this, this ain't gonna work out
for you guys.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
A hit.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I mean, he went flying, man.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I'm just I'm just glad he's limber man because like
the way his body bent, I was thinking he's gotta
have some sort of back issue or something, but really, yeah, crush,
he took it.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
He did he got? He got jack?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Speaking of back issues, Stafford scary.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Because you know they're gonna put him back one.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Ice and and see and look, you know where you
know better than anybody when it comes back, and you
look at Stafford, I mean, they're ready to win, They're
gonna be great.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
But you know, will that thing hold up the whole season?
Speaker 7 (29:01):
I would adventurely say it won't. I mean, I look
dealing with.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Back injuries and issues especially We've kind of talked about
this a little bit last week, just as a rotational athlete.
I mean, it constantly has to be monitored and tweaked,
and you know, there's only so many epidurals you can
get and so many things you can do before you know,
you got alleviate some of the pain some of those
issues you're having. And honestly, at least from again my
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experience doing it, the longer you push it off, the
longer you wait, the hard it's gonna be able to
come back from. And and that with some of my
experienced personally, and I'm not sure you know where Matt
Stafford's at on this journey and what exactly it is,
but I have a pretty darn good idea. But that's
also why they have Jimmy Garoppolo there. You know, they've
got a guy who's a veteran backup who can spit
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the football around, and he's got familiarity with their top receiver,
which I would say is Devonte Adams.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Even though Puga Naku.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Is close, you know, they've they've got They've got him
there as an insurance policy for them. So I you know,
I don't think all hopes lost. And we've seen Jimmy
Garoppolo take a team to a super Bowl. It's got
a ton of talent, and ironically, I'm not gonna say
they're built the exact same way. But when I look
at the Rams right now, I think they're built by
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their front, you know, as far as when you look
at their defense, I think they've got that special offensive
play caller similar to Garoppolo's run with Shanahan, similar to
McVeigh who it was a you know, you know, was
mentored by Shanahan.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
So you kind of start to look through some of
the similarities.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
You go, all right, I could I could see how
this team could still find its way even with Jimmy
Garoppolo as its quarterback because there's some similarities to teams
we've seen, you know.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Make a run.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
And on top of it, I mean, outside of the
Eagles and maybe you'd say the forty nine ers, I'm
not sure who else you throw in their anthony?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Like's not it's not the AFC.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
This isn't it a gauntlet you have to go through
in the AFC in order just to kind of get
to the playoffs, and they get to a super Bowl?
You know, it feels like the NFC is a much
easier path. Am I wrong in saying that?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think if you look at it, I mean, I
like the North, but they're all questions right Minnesota with
JJ McCarthy, because otherwise they're a pretty complete team.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Green Bay interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I would ask you about them a little bit with
love and what you expect from Love. Uh. And then
you know, I mean you look at the Chicago and Detroit.
Obviously Detroit coming off, these are the two coaches are
going to be your favorite, and then you got the Bears.
I think you got you know, it's a good division.
I like Tampa a little bit, but yeah, nothing's like
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the AMC.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Yeah, So I just think because of that, you know,
it makes it a little more. Yeah, I guess optimistic
even despite injury, still be able to find a way
to make it through, right.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
I mean, at least that's that's all I kind of
you need.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
And you need it back. I'm with you with Jimmy
g It's listen, it's white.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
There were a lot of teams that were calling Howie
Roseman about Tanner McKee. Yeah and right around the raft
like they were they were yet I mean this kid,
let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
He's a player. Yeah you could yeah, well and legit.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
You know. Baldy said something too.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
He talked about, you know, one of Jackson darts throws,
throwing a guy open.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
You know.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
It's it's funny when Tana McKee was at Stanford and
I remember watching.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Them as tape.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I think it's like very polished, you know, had all
those qualities things you're looking forward. They're asking them to
do stuff to the line of strimmage like he's gonna
be asked to do at the NFL level.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
One of the things that stood out though was his
ball placement. And this is where when.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
People are like, ah, statstone line, it's like, well, yeah
they do, because if you don't turn on to watch
the tape and you don't see, for example, like we're
talking about velcrow coverage. Yes, you know, the Stanford receivers
weren't separating very much, and he was putting balls in
spots where there's either drops or they were contested. Receivers
weren't coming up with it. And you could see that
he was an accurate passer. It just you had to
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turn it on to watch because otherwise you weren't going
to get an appreciation for every single stinking throwing. For
the most parts, there was a guy hanging on the
receiver's back, of the tight ends back, so you kind
of could see that and that's where they you know,
the Eagles got a little bit of a gem in
Tanner and obviously he showed out I would say last
year in preseason this.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Year, yeah, you know it tries.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
It's crazy when you think about all the all the
stuff that we do with quarterbacks in the draft and
he goes to the sixth round like you can't see
like you saw it, like you saw something there.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
He's got to go before the sixth round.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Well, there's I think the tough thing with that is is,
I mean, look at Shador goes in the fifth and
you look at his right and and when I'm looking
at tape on him comparison to cam Wards and the others,
I was like, well, I like Schador's tape, I said
before the draft. I was like, I'd like it as
good as Kim Wards. Like if if cam Ward's won,
he's one B then or you know, I liked a
lot of the things I saw from Chador that I
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thought would translate well over. So you know, I was
one of those people who was in the category of
I liked his tape better than Jackson Darts.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
I liked it better than a lot of guys. So
you know, you never know what what a lot.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Of teams are learning that combine and some of their
interviews and how that may impact their decision. But when
you you know, it's one of the reasons why I
wish more teams would just look at the tape. When
you look at the tape, how do you feel about
the player? This is gonna be the biggest piece of
what you're getting, what you're gonna be coaching and having
to deal with a lot of teams can deal with
guys who have a bit of a you know, an
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attitude or are are an a hole out there, and
they're able to find ways of still working around that
because they're talented enough to be able to do the
job they're asked to do. So I got you know, again,
it's it's tough to know why a guy like that
falls there. I think you can you look at the
lack of productivity or whatever their you know, things point
to it doesn't matter now. I mean, now he's getting
his opportunities playing well, and you know, if again the
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Eagles need him to come in, like we talked about
with Jimmy Garoppolo, if the Eagles were to need him,
I mean, he's he's gonna be very capable. He's obviously
showcasing to be capable of taking over.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, all right, We're gotta take quick t o come
right back. I want to ask Brady my elation question.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Is it a violation?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
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Easy a violation? And I say violation, I mean it
like in a fun way. Is it a violation for
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a thirty three year old man to incessantly talk about
his birthday coming up and then to describe his birthday
as a birthday week?
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Oh no, I'm This is where it's tough for me
because I'm just I'm not that guy man. I I
you know, usually don't tell people when my birthday is coming.
I try to sneak under the radar if I can so, yes,
that that is a that's a bad sign.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
It's just a violation, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
And I also think, like, come on, man, you're you're
a dude. You can't have a birthday week. Even if
you celebrate your birthday, you get a day, you don't.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
Get a week. What about a weekend? Are you referring to?
Who refer my producer?
Speaker 3 (36:59):
And I was bustling you took well Friday and Monday
last weekend, and all I heard about it was his birthday.
Well I heard it's his birthday. I'm like, dude, you're
thirty three.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Yeah, like yeah, I mean having to past this man,
Like we've all been there, we've done that.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
But like you know, the best birthdays are the younger
ones for you individually. Like when again I can speak
from experience, but like I just turned forty last year.
You turn forty, and it's like it's just good to
see everyone, you know, It's it's not even about like
the fun or what you're doing everything else.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
You just want to see everyone. You want to say hello.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
And you get to that age where you appreciate time
spent and you appreciate the people that are in your life.
But you're not going out on some wild trip or
wild party or Vegas or shoot where you're at you know,
Atlantic City or something.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
I mean, I go up to New York. Just you're
not doing any of that. You know, you're trying to
just you know, have a nice birthday where you see
all your friends the people you love, right.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And listen, that's like forty is a is a monumental birthday,
Like if you go to realms thirty you know, twenty one, thirty,
forty fifty six or whatever, like that's significant, right, right?
Speaker 6 (38:09):
But three, come on, that doesn't even stand out to
your point. That one's like that get lost in the
shuffle of like, hey, I turned twenty five, twenty one,
you know, thirty forty, Like.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Don't get a week? All right?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
I think, come on, if you do take a week,
you're not a dude, you know, right, I'm really sure
what that says about you, but.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Right right, that's my argument with him. I go, you're
not sportsman.
Speaker 8 (38:33):
You could take either a Friday or Monday off if
it happens to land on a weekend and you're gonna
go do something like the right camp something like that.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Look, I don't mind him taking a four day weekend
if he wants, that's fine, that's fine. You keep going,
I'm celebrating for my birthday week you can't.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
That's just too much.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
It's too much.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I tell him, you do, it's violation. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I also think once you have kids, you realize you
don't better than anybody with five of them, that you cease,
your birthday ceases to exist everything about you. See, it's
all about the kids. That's how that's what matters, is
that children. You make it special for that exactly.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
I've been trying to get this into Lee's head, our
producer here, and I keep encouraging him to have kids
because you know, then it's going to change his perspective
on life and how he spends his time and everything
else along with it. He has not really taking me
up on that yet. He's not really made much progress. Well,
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you're getting a lot of practice in I don't know
if you're really try.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
There's no try. There's either do or you don't do it.
Well enjoy Well, I don't have it, I should say.
That's one way I'm putting.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I'm telling you, dude, it's the greatest, all right, oh Man, dude,
two pros and comfort Joe backing them over the couch.