August 13, 2025 • 40 mins
Oklahoma QB John Mateer and countless young athletes land in hot water for putting too much on social media. BREAKING NEWS: The Bills ink James Cook to a huge contract. Plus, convincing young athletes to watch film and more!
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ah, good morning, good morning, good morning. Happy heaby h Wednesday,
August the thirteenth, almost midway through August, which means the
start of football. That's what we're waiting for. It is
two Pros a Cup of Joe, Brady Quinn, I'm in
for the guys. I'm Anthony Gargano. Uh. We talked a
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lot about the Cowboys, Jerry, We'll get back to the NFL.
But Brady, I got to get into this social media,
this story about John Mattier, the quarterback at Oklahoma who
was under a little bit of a fire yesterday over
what was sports gambling accusations involving his Venmo Now he
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got right in front of it said, no, this is
not It was an inside joke when we were teenagers
with a childhood friend and had nothing to do with that.
This is not gambling. I've never gambled. I don't gamble
on sports. I know the seriousness of it. And we
just got done fake Adam Schefter talking about Odell Beckham retiring.
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It is so utterly dangerous. And now you got Membo
they're doing the same thing, the arch Brady. It's crazy,
it's nuts.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And I think the one thing though, that I look
at this and say, where you just wonder again. I'm
not trying to say he did or he didn't, but
the accusations are born out of his freshman year while
he was at Washington State that maybe he had laid
some bets, and you know, look, this is all landscape before.
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I think a lot of us out there who you know,
didn't grow up in a time where there there was
sports betting. If there was, you're either going to casino
or you got a bookie, right, I mean, that's just
that's how it used to work, or you got something
friendly going on with with some of your buddies. But
in this case, I look at it, and I go,
all right, is that the chance that maybe he did
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lay some bets And this is before he really came
to prominence and people knew who he was and he
had his great season at Washington State and he becomes
this lightning rod you know, number one play in the
transfer portal that goes to a blue blood in Oklahoma. Yeah,
there's a chance of that. And I think, you know,
I never put it past young people. I was young once.
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I remember the dumb stuff I used to do, So
I am sure even though even at that age, you
know this would be back what in twenty twenty two?
I think, uh, where there were there were this surface,
you know, would would it? Would he have done something
like this? Of course, Like, there's the chance of that.
So I'm not not accusing him of it, but I'm
also saying I don't necessarily know there's not a fire
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if there's a little smoke there. What's most interesting to
me about it is what do you do? I mean,
if this was three years ago, are you going to
go back and punish the kid now? I mean imagine
the impact not only in him from a standpoint of
just be able to earn off name image and likeness if
they were to suspend him, but even then, like it,
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at what point do you go? But yeah, that has
nothing to do with him now being the starting quarterback
for Oklahoma, and nor do we have any sort of
information that he has even gambled or done anything since.
And so even if he there was some sort of wrongdoing,
I just I'm like, well, okay, where is this gonna go?
Because he did something illegal three years ago? And I
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understand his people who want to toe the line of saying, way,
there's right and wrong, and what he did was wrong.
It's like, okay, but now now, because you didn't put
in the right you know, protocols to be able to
catch this or find out about this, you're going to
penalize him three years later, this coaching staff, this team,
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everyone else around him, I mean, or even if they
penalized Washington State, He's well, how's that fair? Is this
is three years after the fact. This has kind of
always been my question and issue with the NCAA is
you know, for example, you'd find out Southern cal was
paying players and they end up vacating wins and then
they end up putting on suspension like five years after
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the fact, And it's like, well, how's that fair to
the kids who are there now who had no idea
whether we.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Watch those games, they're expunged. Good.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's like we all know, yeah, we all know how
the games went right. So I sit there and I
look at it. I just go like, even if this
was true, what's the punishment going to be? You know,
And how's that? How is that fair to anyone who
was involved, just because the kid made a mistake three
years ago, even if this is true, which you know,
again you doubt the credibility of it.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I guess yeah. I don't even know, uh, the circumstances
on Venmo and why they were involved. It was with
a friend of his, now, I don't know. They were
labeled like do you. I don't use Venmo, so okay,
I was gonna say, I'm right there with you. I
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like people like I use Apple Pay. Usually it's like, you.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Know, for example or something, I'll send an Apple Pay
and I'm like, it feels a lot easier because you're
already having a text conversation. You don't have to go
out of the app to go to another one. I
feel like I'm on an island here, like you use
Apple pay though too.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, I use Apple Pee, I use Apple Pay PayPal like.
I'll use those two like most people. Venmo is public, right,
so there's a public in a private mode. So you
could put it on private mode, but there's a public mode.
I just read a story about the PGA tourter. This
is crazy, Brady. People are nuts. And you mentioned the
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gambling thing, which listen, I think it's you know, it's
fun and the whole thing, but they're it's so dangerous.
It really is. I mean, it tears people apart, and
it's brings back and brings out an ugly, ugly side
of the sports fan and the PGA tour guys were
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talking about how they had to get on venmo because
they were getting these crazy requests and death threats on venmo.
And you owe me nineteen hundred dollars you missed that pot.
And you know this guy, he was saying, every once
in a while people would send me money, he said,
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he goes, but it's crazy, like you can't. You got
to put that on private. But I don't know how
you would be on public mode if you're a public
figure on venmo.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, I don't know how either. I mean, honestly, probably
just better off having someone do it for you, if
if we're being honest about it. But I just look
at this and say, it's one of the hardest times
to be a prominent athlete. And that's whether you're a
professional eve at the college level, which I guess we
can call them professionals now right, Yeah, it doesn't matter
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how you go about defining it. They are in the spotlight.
There's fans who feel like they have ownership into whatever
it is. I mean, even at the college level. Now,
you know there's a lot of kids between the ability
to bet, but also an il and these kids getting paid,
I think that's completely changed the dynamic or the demeanor
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that fans and how they treat you know, players younger
and young. And it's tough because you know, it's it's
to introduce. I mean, I take my kids on weekends
to go, you know, sometimes to some of our big
new kickoff stops, and they'll hear things and they'll ask Dad.
My daughter's now nine, so she's old enough to and
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never my seven year old has got rabbit ears. But
they're old enough to ask the question like did he
just say what I think he did? Or dad, he
just said a bad word. Why is he saying that?
And it's it's hard, like it's it's actually like that's
the that's the worst part about it is is trying
to explain to my seven or nine year old like
why a grown man would be saying that to a
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younger kid, right, you know, But but that's where we're at,
you know, that's where we're at with sports, where if
everyone feels like they're investing into something or putting the
hard earned money into something, they feel like they have
the right to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And it's a million times worse worse on social media
because of the anonymity. Right, It's wait like obviously people
wouldn't say that stuff to your face when they meet you, right, Like,
you know, all the divice things that is that is
just said. And you know, part of it is a
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blessing that you didn't have to deal with that at
Notre Dame and in the NFL the way it is.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
In the NFL when we got there, I mean we
had the Facebook and Underdame, so my senior year, you know,
that was something that people just I never really understood.
Why would people want to put their public business out there?
It's still to this day doesn't make sense for me. Now,
I know a lot of people make money off it.
A lot of people are doing marketing off that. There's
so there's some purpose to it. Don't get me wrong,
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but I was always more of the private type in general,
and even more than that, I just kind of figured, well,
if I was going to do something I wasn't supposed
to be doing, I definitely don't have to do it
where my parents could see it, right. I one of
my buddies, you know, then girlfriend now wife. I remember,
like she was to tell a story how her parents
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they would always watch the Hallmark channel because a Notre Dame.
They'd have masks, they'd er it on Sunday mornings, and
you know, no matter what she did the night that
Saturday night before it was, she was always in that
front pew. And so that when they were watching all
the way from Idaho and they saw her, they saw
her there at church, they said, all right, all's good
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in the world. All's good in the world. And it's
like and I sit there and say, like, I miss
those days because I'm like, there was a period of
time where you could make mistakes and the whole world
didn't have to see it, right, and these kids aren't
dealing with that now. I mean, for example, the other
piece of this was the whole arch manning part of it, right, Like,
didn't something come up with his Venmo?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yes? Yeah, people were posting fake pictures, you know, on
his Venmo. And here's the thing is, like, by the way,
I don't know what they are. You don't know what's
real what's not real anymore?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
By the way, Well, so you're trying to discern and
like I don't know, I don't know like what to
think of all that. I sit there and just kind
of saying to myself, all right, like he's a young kid,
and even if it's true, he's made some poor decisions.
Like I feel like there's a number of players like
we kind of talk about or say that about, but
that that's that's how I look at it, Like it's
hard to be too harsh on these kids, even though
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they're still kind of, you know, growing mature and there
in the spotlight. It's hard to really come down on
them like that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Dude, I'm with you. I feel for them again, and
we have this let's we keep receipts well, receipts on
a fourteen year old and what they're tweeting, and you know,
maybe maybe there's no context, maybe it is vile or whatever,
but if there's fourteen fifteen years old, they should have
the ability to make a mistake and learn from it,
(11:42):
right right, And they I mean, you're gonna bring up
old tweets from children and stuff that's being said, and
I who knows what you're thinking? Right, Like, they're not rational,
They're children, They're kids that are growing that are gonna
make mistakes. You've said it, like, allow them to be fallible.
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We're all you were all fallible, were human beings, so
especially the youth, like you know, it is what it is,
especially stuff like this.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's it's newer. It's tough to understand how to navigate me.
And hell, I didn't even know there was a public
private on Venmo. I just I never used Venmo, so
I never had to worry about that. But I was
gonna ask, like Lee and Lorena, do you guys use Venmo?
Are you more apple pant? Like what do you guys
use for your your payment platform?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I famously remember that I do use Venmo, And the
problem is that it is the default is public. I
always have to switch it over to private. You have
to do it for every transaction. And I remember you
paid me for whatever reason. It's probably a lot of
tickets or something like that, and you'd it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Of tickets that you didn't buy, that you want them.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I have the receipts under but yeah, but indeed I
did not.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Wait, you didn't buy you said you bought the Anthony.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
We all we all threw in fifty bucks. I think
when the was the was it power ball?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, it was like a billion or two billion or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
We all threw them like, oh it's twenty bucks. Fifty bucks. Yeah,
you know, And let's just put it this way. Half
the whatever the money was, only half them out went
to the tickets.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I think this is what I think. This is where
I where you guys are mad at me, and I
will maintain all the money you gave to me went
to lotto tickets. But you guys wanted to put like
sixty bucks down to each or something. I was like,
I only am comfortable putting down twenty, So I put down.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, So so Lee, if we're gonna go here, all right,
tell Anthony yes, about you being the commission of your
fantasy football leagues. It's obviously that's starting up, yep, So
tell them, tell them about your fantasy football league, and
once you do with the money last.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So some leagues, you know, they collect the money upfront
and some do them at the end of the season.
I happened to collect upfront. I also happened to be
in five other leagues where that are like one hundred
bucks each to buy in. So I sometimes might use
that money that people are paying me to hold on
to to pay for my other leagues, hedge my bets,
and so I'm basically playing the whole season just to
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not have to pay at the end of the season,
because basically I'm gonna have to reach into my own
bank account to like bring out five hundred bucks to
either pay the winner or pay myself. But yeah, that
money that that usually goes to me usually ends up
getting used on the other leaks.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I mean, is that not a no?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's like, if there's ever a time where you shouldn't
be commissioner, and it's probably this.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Hey, everyone gets paid at the end of the year.
They all get their money.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Hold on you say this now, publicly. Do you forget
the things you say earlier in the show, like like
months ago.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, I always forget what I say. I never remember.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well, okay, so Anthony, it took him, I think like
six weeks to pay back the winner of his league
because he had used all the money on other things.
I think this was back when du yeah, dirty Mic
and the boys broke into his car stole a bunch
of stuff. So he was dealing with some Yeah, there's
some extenuating circumstances.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
He sometimes you got to reach into the piggy bank. No,
I know, it's a bad commissioner thing. I usually should
have a treasury. That's why you should have a treus,
like somebody who's a little more trustworthy. But you know,
that's why you have, you know, different governing bodies you
can sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Have and you're still the commissioner. They ain't even ask to.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You yell yeah that I am the commissioner, because somebody
has to do the other dirty work of getting twelve
guys to you know, commit to a time and date
and keeping the rules.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's just it doesn't sound that hardly. I'll be honest
with you, dude.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That would not go over well South Philly like back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, I mean what about today? I mean I don't
think it's go. Well, this sounds like a Southern California league,
is what it sounds like?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Hey, man, Like I said, everybody gets paid. They all
get their Money's.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Not let you in his league anytime?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
No way, man, Well, the prices go up every year
for each league, for each league. You know what started
out is like Bucks buy ins are now one.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Hundred different expenditures.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, that's very expensive. But to answer your question from
the beginning, Yeah, most younger people, I think use Venmo,
Apple pay Ice will get confused by sometimes. I don't
trust it as much as Venmo for.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Some reason, we Apple pen.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I love Apple Pye. He is right in my pocket.
I've got to open up a special app. I just
got to your text message and go bink bink bink boom.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
My mom accidentally sent money to the wrong person the
other last week, and she tried to like say, hey,
can you send that money back? And they never did.
They don't have to. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Oh jeez, wait, now let me ask you won't think
because the other thing of the aspect of this is
the ratting nature yeah, Lorraining what what what is it
about now putting everybody on blast? Because in a sense,
in that sense.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
It's ratting, right, You're talking about like Venmo and like
how you can well, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's probably not look at this, everybody will now rat
out their friends.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, And I've been stuck in that situation before. I
was hanging out with this one guy and his girlfriend's like,
why did you send Loraena twenty five bucks? Why are
you even talking to her? So it's like, yeah, Venmo's
kind of like the you.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Shouldn't use it. Yeah, and to say for the arch
Manny thing, like the stuff that they would say, this
is what typical guys will do. They'll say, like, here's
twenty bucks for butt stuff. This is literally quoting arch
Manning's Venmo page, which has been deactivated. It's always stuff
like that. It's always something that's inappropriate and not what
it really is. For funny. Is often on there a
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bunch of drug references. You know, maybe sometimes that's the case,
but most of the time it's a joke between guys exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I said that people take it serious and then they
want to blast it out to rattle people. The rat
culture I just can't. I don't dig rady. That's the
one thing about today that I can't get behind is
the rat culture.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
There's too many guys, you know, tat to tail on
each other and all that stuff, which I'm trying to
figure out.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I was like, I just that'ched one of my Venmo,
which I'd never had Venmo until I did a golf trip,
and some guys are like, why don't you have Venmo?
Like I have Apple Pay, Like why can't you guys
just do that? But no one told me it was
it was public, so thank god it is on a
private setting. But yeah, I just I don't know. I
don't know. I'm not sure if it's just because there's
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so much transparency now with being able to track and
trace everything. But again, as we talked about before, we're
venturing into a world where it's getting hard to differentiate
aim from reality, at least in that realm. And if
that's the case, I think this makes it really really
tough for people to kind of jump to what is
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public perception now, and public perception is you have to
prove your innocence. Yeah, Like it's no longer like you know,
they have to prove that you're guilty, and they have
to prove that you actually did something wrong. Nowadays, someone
makes an accusation, everyone assumes guilt and you have to
prove your innocence. And that's an extremely slippery slope. And
it's one of the reasons why if you look at
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you know, for example, like some of our are founding,
you know, documents that have created this country, where they
are structured in a way that they were, they should
withstand the test of time. But you know, today's society
and perception of all naturally challenging it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Oh dude, you're spot a brother. Uh my man Nikki
and pa he said the lottery tickey money law during
is Bro code mortal sin stuff?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Wowly, First of all, the lotto tickets, I maintain I
used all the money for the stuff for the lotto tickets.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Now you maintain that. But here's the problem is when
I'm supposed to buy xly, I can't supposed to buy
X amount of tickets I did and you only bought
half that amount.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Not true, because you guys demanded that I pay as
much as you guys did, and I didn't want them
to pay that much. I didn't want to pay sixty
bucks for a lot of tickets, and I used my
money to buy it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
This is where it gets deeper, Anthony. If we all
throw in, let's just say round numbers, Okay, fifty bucks. Right,
there's there's four of us, so it should be two
hundred bucks that we're buying a lot of tickets because
we're trying to hit the jackpot.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I get this.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
If one of us only throws in, what ten bucks
leagueuse the rest you spent on booze, that means really
about one hundred and sixty. And the problem with that
is you still think you're in for the share of
the jackpot if we win.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Maybe the percentage shouldn't Yeah, a percentage of it? I
should no, yeah, no, yeah. Well here's the thing. This
happens in office pools all the time, where like all
of a sudden, somebody sets a limit of saying, like, oh,
we should all put in fifty bucks. Not everybody in
the office wants to put fifty bucks down, Karen, And like,
all of a sudden, it's pure pressure and everybody has
to put down a lot more than they're comfortable with.
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That was this case.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, then you shouldn't put down any you're.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Out, You're out.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, you're buying a pleas over there.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, that's exactly, That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It is like some places make it where you have
to put down. You have to down.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, Lee, that was our rules, pal, and you end
up spending it on boo.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Dude, LeVar didn't even pay. LeVar didn't pay you.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I had to pay.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I had to pay up for Levar's I had to
pay Levar's tab on that. The whole thing he had
to pay me.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
He paid me back going on.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That was where the controversy came in.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Is because he did pay you.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
He did pay you way after the fact.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Way, so he pulled the lapt what he paid six
weeks after pay the guy won your league exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That's a double violation. Brady stuck with you. Guys.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
My god, we had agreed, we had agreed to a
certain number. In Brady's like, no, put more down, And
I was like, I got a court.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
That was a big one. It was like over a billion.
I was like, that's probably the one you want to
throw some money off.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, I think one ticket is just as good as
sixty in my opinion, when it comes to the.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Loss, but mathematically not.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But I think what we were trying to do, uh, Anthony,
is we were trying to buy enough tickets so that
we had a greater chance of getting struck by lightning.
No excuse me, we had a better chance of winning
the lotto than getting struck by lightning. I think that
was what we were trying to get to. I don't know.
Somehow that felt like more like pay a little better
luck to that one.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't know. All right, all right, sit tight, we'll
be back in just a moment. Lots to get to.
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Adam Schefter just reported James Cook and the Bill reach
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Brady, Wow, I mean obviously saw Saquan's deal, you know,
after the Super Bowl and everything this this season as
far as the average annual value, But haven't seen the
numbers for this yet. What is that number for the
most guaranteed or is he just you know, simply steady.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, he's stating he didn't put it out yet.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Forty eight million extension, thirty million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh there is Oh, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I mean he's a very talented player. You just hope
he can stay healthy. It's always concerned with every running back,
but in particular with him too, you know, I think,
but he's I mean again, when they lean on him,
he can do it all man. He can catch out
the backfield. Well, he's kind of got that, that vision
and that slipperiness to him for you know, for his size.
(24:53):
But it's an interesting move when you look at you know,
Philly obviously invested in Saquon and they to help lead
them to a super Bowl and then they give them
the extension. This offseason, the Bills are trying to get one.
They're trying to get there, and now they got a
guy obviously who you know, again they haven't leaned on
to carry them a Ton, But as they build up
(25:15):
their score right around Josh Allen, it does feel like
they're investing the money in the right spot and maybe
that pendulum for the value of a running back is
swinging back the other way, where now these guys are
starting to actually be able to capture their worth as
opposed to just being looked at as you know, running
back by a committee room or just some sort of
(25:35):
commodity that you can get a running back anywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Well, think about it, right before last year, Shea Kwan
and Derrick Henry are your free agents. Like they're free agents.
The two best backs in the league are free agents,
and they go for nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Relatively speak right, right and again, like if you look
at how much they're actually impacting the offense and carrying
the load for a lot of these teams, it's just
it's crazy. But I understand the business standpoint of it too.
You know, if you can find guys who come in
that do it just as good of a job, you
know you can get for cheaper, it makes sense. I
(26:17):
think the interesting dynamic that I've seen in regard that
regard to like the economics for running backs in the
NFL is a lot of running backs are staying longer
in college because they can earn more money and they're
valued more at that level as opposed to at the NFL,
where once they get there they get their shot and
then they you know, if they can't make it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You're not getting at Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You're not getting a second contract. So you know, yeah,
it makes sense. You know. It was definitely not one
of the cause and effects that I thought we see
from name, image and likeness and college players being paid,
But that was one of the effects.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
No, I mean, we'll think about it, and there's always
a steadfast rule that you burn it back out and
you don't get in a second contract. A lot of
gms operated under that. You don't want to you don't
want to do it. So if you're if you're gonna
do that, then the running back needs to stay and
then you come in you get your one big contract.
(27:15):
You know, they'll say quantity and anomaly, right, I mean,
you know, plus last year a lot of highway bodels.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, And I think that's also one of the
pitches that you hear from a lot of these colleges
where they stack those running back rooms and they'll say,
you're not gonna get you know, get a lot of
you know where on your on your tires. We're gonna
we're gonna rotate you guys in you know, so it
doesn't matter who you. I mean, look at penns Day,
we talked about them, k Tron, Allen, Nick Singleton, Notre
Dame's got an entire room of guys. I mean it's
(27:43):
you know, Anias Williams, Jeremiah Love and Jendarian Price, like
they'll all three share the carries and and you know
it's it's helped out as far as recruiting and some
of these teams being able to retain a lot of
the top running backs knowing that hey, if my number
gets called ten times a game, great, it's gonna keep
me fresh on me looked at the exact same by
the NFL level as I you know, I'm gonna be
(28:06):
in college and so I can get paid for another
year or two real money and and then eventually go
on take you know, take my crack at the NFL. Hey,
let me ask you, what do you think of the bills?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Because we just got done talking about the cook extension,
and this is it Like the Chiefs now they're great
and obviously and I don't think they're gonna have a
fall off. I may Andy rebuild is offensive line and
they're really good, but this is the year, right If
I want to make any other team a favorite, it's Buffalo.
(28:41):
Do they have it enough for Josh on the outside,
with Coleman, gear and Palmer.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
It's so tough to feel like they do. However, I mean,
we've seen years where you know, we've questioned that. I mean, obviously,
remember when the Chiefs left Tyreek Hill and then they
still end up winning a Super Bowl, and so it
does mean you always necessarily have to happen. Now, granted,
they've got a future Hall of Famer at tight end.
Uh maybe Daltonkin kaid And and Dawson Knox the combination
can help shoulder some of that, but they really need
(29:11):
to see some some growth and improvement out of that group.
I just you know, I'm not sure Cliff skor you know,
Shakiru Keon, Coleman and Palmer are are going to be
able to carry it. But again, you look at the
money where they're investing in James Cook, that's probably a
signal they're gonna be running football a little more balanced
than they have been and that's not necessarily a bad
(29:34):
right and and that's what helps protect them, right, you know,
running the football, playing great defense, but they're going to
have to have someone step up to be able to
make the big play when when called upon. And unfortunately
for them, they you know, had that guy on Diggs.
He's no longer there. You know, whether or not they're
they're feeling that loss, I don't think they do. In
the regular season. I think that's that's a loss that
(29:55):
you face when you get to the better teams and
those teams start to kind of take away something and
then you you struggle to be able to find that
guy that can step up in the big moment. You know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That maybe because you need somebody could spread that could
spread the field in those big games, right, like you
see all its shrinks on you. I mean, look how
the Chiefs play you. They're gonna they're gonna play you
short in the game, and and they're gonna if you
had that home run hitter on the outside, I mean,
that's it. That's I think that's the only thing they lack.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, and look at Keon Coleman might develop into that,
you know, he might be you know that guy at
some point. But until until that happens, you know, until
you see that growth, I mean, you're just not gonna
feel over the confidence and then being able to win
that way. And to your point, look, some some coaches
feel more comfortable if they, you know, are able to
spread the football around. But I think they'd be lying
(30:51):
to you if they didn't feel like, hey, we need
to have that one guy though we know we can
depend upon in that critical moment. And I don't know
that they, you know, like again, they have that guy
unless I don't know. Maybe maybe Bill's fans feel like
I'm wrong and maybe Coleman will become that but I
don't know that asily.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Maybe I hope he does. I listen, I love McDermott.
I'm a big Sean McDermott guy. I know Sean from
back in the day. He's great people, great family and
uh and I listen. If there is a fan base
that deserves to win, like Justice, it's that fan base.
I mean, let's be real, like they deserve if Justice
(31:31):
says anything, they deserve a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah. No, I mean I think there's a few up there.
I was I was thinking I got of the rust
Bell Cleveland, Detroit Ball any one of those three. I'm
waiting for you guys to get a super Bowl Detroit Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But yeah, yes, oh, you know it's true. Those three,
those three franchises, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo. They're great fans, right,
the tremendous football people and they're loyal, you know, Sports
Justice six mile long.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It should Well, we'll see if if it really does.
I just love the fact that, you know, the Bill's
new stadium, it's still going to encompass some of the elements.
Apparently they've dug it down solo and I'm not sure
if you saw this that the wind really isn't going
to impact the game. At least that's what they're saying
based on the construct of this stadium, that it will
be an outdoor venue, but the wind should not impact
(32:30):
the actual game conditions. So I got to read more
than that and figure out how that's the case. I mean,
you'd figure if it's open air at some point wind
could could have to play a factor. I just remember
the old stadium, that thing would swirl And I'll never
forget because one of my first one of my first
starts was on Monday Night football. There and it was
(32:51):
cold and it was windy, and when we would I
would walk around the field with Phil Dawson and Dave's
astido or a kicker and punter, and we talk about,
you know, kind of the wind to different spots. Because
if you're a midfield and you're throwing a go ball
on the left hand side of that back pilon, it's
gonna get knocked down. You throw it to the right side,
the right pylon, it's gonna carry it out of bounds.
(33:12):
And so it's almost like hitting like a golf shot.
I mean, you were really talking about the way you
had to kind of adjust how you're gonna throw based
on where you were on the field. You know, I
think coming out, I'm throwing a go ball down the
left hand side, Uh, it's gonna be into the wind.
You don't have to flip your thinking, and like, those
are little things you don't think about. But man, it
that wasn't It was always an interesting stadium to have
(33:35):
to play in and try to throw the football and
then pierce to that win.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
To me, how Allen will cut throw it? How he
could cut through the win?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, Well, he's got a strong with a farm and
he spins it. Well, Like that's one thing that you
see a lot of these a lot of these guys
to come out of college. You know, they really try
to hone in on trying to spin the football because
if you throw it, if you throw lobbly ball, man,
that thing is never gonna make it through like now
you always do, like the Kurt Warner, even Peyton back
in the day. I mean, those guys are playing inside
(34:07):
for half their games. We thank god because they would
not be able to throw through that sort of win.
But you know, it's a little more comforting to be
able to play in the confines of being indoors and
not have to deal with those sorts of conditions. You
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Speaker 2 (34:38):
Look at that. That's a that's a transition, my man,
A coming up. I gotta get your revice. I'm serious,
I need your advice bad, all right, so we'll do
that lots of stuff. I got a violation question for
you as we continue. Two Pros A Cup of Joe,
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Speaker 1 (35:48):
Boat, It's right there.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So I got a buddy of mine who pitched for
the Diamondbacks. All right, okay, all right, So, so his
name is Mike Koplov. He's a terrific dude. He's now
a scout for the Phillies. When he was young, his
father was it not. His father was a lawyer, big
(36:14):
sports fan, and he had two sons and he was like,
I'm gonna get my sons to.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
The big leagues.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
He was a crazy sports dad, and so he got
you know, he got baseball was their ticket. He got
both of them to throw really hard effect. His younger
one would have made it too, but then he blew
out his elbow. He was throwing like ninety eight. But
the oldest one, Mike. He when Mike was eighth grade.
(36:44):
He comes up. Now his father was a lawyer. He
comes home with this envelope with the Phillies like logo
on it. And then he then he has like this
letter with letter and from the Phillies, and on the
letter was we have signed you. This is a contract offer,
(37:08):
and we're gonna sign you at age eight if you
do the following things. And it listed out. It was
like his father did like an eight paces protract.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
This is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
His father's name is Steve Kaploff. Great dude, but out
of his mind, I mean, completely crazy sports dad. It's
like an eight page contract of all the things he
had to do every day, and it was all the
duties and we will sign you at the minute you
graduate high school if you fulfill all this stuff. So
(37:50):
Mike was like, wow, the Phillies are gonna sign me,
Oh my god. And you know, he held this thing
in his room. He said he believed it for like
two years and then and then you know, every once
in a while, like a letter would come, and then finally
figure it out. But guess what, it got him to
(38:12):
the bigs without a doubt. It got it like he
did all the work everything. His father's a genius.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So his father is a genius. Although in today's day
and age, like the kids get open letters like that anymore,
I guess you could still do that.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I guess yeah. I mean, listen, I'm sure there's still
a correspondence that you can like. I like. So I'm
trying to figure out how do I use this all? Right?
For my own kids. So I got a fifteen year
old I don't really worry about he is. He plays edge,
he's a defensive end. He's going to through a sophomore
year in high school, big boy, and he just does
(38:51):
all the right things, Right, My little one is a quarterback.
He's twelve. He wears a size we just got a
new cleats here. He's eleven and a half, he just
turned twelve. He's got huge hands he's gonna have he's
profiles really well, and he's got an arm. He's got
like he's got a great arm. So I'm trying to figure.
(39:14):
I'm like, dude, you got to study. Like I try
try to get him into like really loving the game
from an exito standpoint, and you know, listen, obviously, because
of what I do, I have a lot of assets.
I mean, you know, Uncle Baldy's down the street at
NFL Films. We got all the tape we want, right right,
So he's you know, he's twelve, right, So of course
(39:39):
he's not gonna he's not gonna comply. He got any thoughts,
like when did you start like breaking stuff down?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I mean it's tough for me because I've always been really,
really curious and at a young age. You know, I
remember my my uncle would take me and I would
help track down and scout for one of his buddies.
I was coaching high school ball, and I was doing
that at like seven years old, you know, as far
as the witch hash run past what way, like they
(40:08):
would kind of tell me everything down in distance. And
so I just I think everyone's wired different. I just
think you got to find a way of igniting that
spark in them. I mean, look, I'm a datify my
kids are still young, but like each one of them
is so so different than how you go about trying
to motivate and for soccer, volleyball, gymnastics, whatever, lacrosse, whatever
else they're playing. Each one it's like it's its own
(40:31):
sports psychology to it. So I just I think you
got to keep leaning into like whatever excites in the
most about it and hopefully that triggers something.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ah, good morning, good morning, good morning. Happy heaby h Wednesday,
August the thirteenth, almost midway through August, which means the
start of football. That's what we're waiting for. It is
two Pros a Cup of Joe, Brady Quinn, I'm in
for the guys. I'm Anthony Gargano. Uh. We talked a
(00:54):
lot about the Cowboys, Jerry, We'll get back to the NFL.
But Brady, I got to get into this social media,
this story about John Mattier, the quarterback at Oklahoma who
was under a little bit of a fire yesterday over
what was sports gambling accusations involving his Venmo Now he
(01:19):
got right in front of it said, no, this is
not It was an inside joke when we were teenagers
with a childhood friend and had nothing to do with that.
This is not gambling. I've never gambled. I don't gamble
on sports. I know the seriousness of it. And we
just got done fake Adam Schefter talking about Odell Beckham retiring.
(01:43):
It is so utterly dangerous. And now you got Membo
they're doing the same thing, the arch Brady. It's crazy,
it's nuts.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And I think the one thing though, that I look
at this and say, where you just wonder again. I'm
not trying to say he did or he didn't, but
the accusations are born out of his freshman year while
he was at Washington State that maybe he had laid
some bets, and you know, look, this is all landscape before.
(02:15):
I think a lot of us out there who you know,
didn't grow up in a time where there there was
sports betting. If there was, you're either going to casino
or you got a bookie, right, I mean, that's just
that's how it used to work, or you got something
friendly going on with with some of your buddies. But
in this case, I look at it, and I go,
all right, is that the chance that maybe he did
(02:37):
lay some bets And this is before he really came
to prominence and people knew who he was and he
had his great season at Washington State and he becomes
this lightning rod you know, number one play in the
transfer portal that goes to a blue blood in Oklahoma. Yeah,
there's a chance of that. And I think, you know,
I never put it past young people. I was young once.
(02:57):
I remember the dumb stuff I used to do, So
I am sure even though even at that age, you
know this would be back what in twenty twenty two?
I think, uh, where there were there were this surface,
you know, would would it? Would he have done something
like this? Of course, Like, there's the chance of that.
So I'm not not accusing him of it, but I'm
also saying I don't necessarily know there's not a fire
(03:17):
if there's a little smoke there. What's most interesting to
me about it is what do you do? I mean,
if this was three years ago, are you going to
go back and punish the kid now? I mean imagine
the impact not only in him from a standpoint of
just be able to earn off name image and likeness if
they were to suspend him, but even then, like it,
(03:37):
at what point do you go? But yeah, that has
nothing to do with him now being the starting quarterback
for Oklahoma, and nor do we have any sort of
information that he has even gambled or done anything since.
And so even if he there was some sort of wrongdoing,
I just I'm like, well, okay, where is this gonna go?
Because he did something illegal three years ago? And I
(03:59):
understand his people who want to toe the line of saying, way,
there's right and wrong, and what he did was wrong.
It's like, okay, but now now, because you didn't put
in the right you know, protocols to be able to
catch this or find out about this, you're going to
penalize him three years later, this coaching staff, this team,
(04:19):
everyone else around him, I mean, or even if they
penalized Washington State, He's well, how's that fair? Is this
is three years after the fact. This has kind of
always been my question and issue with the NCAA is
you know, for example, you'd find out Southern cal was
paying players and they end up vacating wins and then
they end up putting on suspension like five years after
(04:39):
the fact, And it's like, well, how's that fair to
the kids who are there now who had no idea
whether we.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Watch those games, they're expunged. Good.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's like we all know, yeah, we all know how
the games went right. So I sit there and I
look at it. I just go like, even if this
was true, what's the punishment going to be? You know,
And how's that? How is that fair to anyone who
was involved, just because the kid made a mistake three
years ago, even if this is true, which you know,
again you doubt the credibility of it.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I guess yeah. I don't even know, uh, the circumstances
on Venmo and why they were involved. It was with
a friend of his, now, I don't know. They were
labeled like do you. I don't use Venmo, so okay,
I was gonna say, I'm right there with you. I
(05:35):
like people like I use Apple Pay. Usually it's like, you.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Know, for example or something, I'll send an Apple Pay
and I'm like, it feels a lot easier because you're
already having a text conversation. You don't have to go
out of the app to go to another one. I
feel like I'm on an island here, like you use
Apple pay though too.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, I use Apple Pee, I use Apple Pay PayPal like.
I'll use those two like most people. Venmo is public, right,
so there's a public in a private mode. So you
could put it on private mode, but there's a public mode.
I just read a story about the PGA tourter. This
is crazy, Brady. People are nuts. And you mentioned the
(06:16):
gambling thing, which listen, I think it's you know, it's
fun and the whole thing, but they're it's so dangerous.
It really is. I mean, it tears people apart, and
it's brings back and brings out an ugly, ugly side
of the sports fan and the PGA tour guys were
(06:39):
talking about how they had to get on venmo because
they were getting these crazy requests and death threats on venmo.
And you owe me nineteen hundred dollars you missed that pot.
And you know this guy, he was saying, every once
in a while people would send me money, he said,
(06:59):
he goes, but it's crazy, like you can't. You got
to put that on private. But I don't know how
you would be on public mode if you're a public
figure on venmo.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, I don't know how either. I mean, honestly, probably
just better off having someone do it for you, if
if we're being honest about it. But I just look
at this and say, it's one of the hardest times
to be a prominent athlete. And that's whether you're a
professional eve at the college level, which I guess we
can call them professionals now right, Yeah, it doesn't matter
(07:30):
how you go about defining it. They are in the spotlight.
There's fans who feel like they have ownership into whatever
it is. I mean, even at the college level. Now,
you know there's a lot of kids between the ability
to bet, but also an il and these kids getting paid,
I think that's completely changed the dynamic or the demeanor
(07:53):
that fans and how they treat you know, players younger
and young. And it's tough because you know, it's it's
to introduce. I mean, I take my kids on weekends
to go, you know, sometimes to some of our big
new kickoff stops, and they'll hear things and they'll ask Dad.
My daughter's now nine, so she's old enough to and
(08:13):
never my seven year old has got rabbit ears. But
they're old enough to ask the question like did he
just say what I think he did? Or dad, he
just said a bad word. Why is he saying that?
And it's it's hard, like it's it's actually like that's
the that's the worst part about it is is trying
to explain to my seven or nine year old like
why a grown man would be saying that to a
(08:33):
younger kid, right, you know, But but that's where we're at,
you know, that's where we're at with sports, where if
everyone feels like they're investing into something or putting the
hard earned money into something, they feel like they have
the right to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And it's a million times worse worse on social media
because of the anonymity. Right, It's wait like obviously people
wouldn't say that stuff to your face when they meet you, right, Like,
you know, all the divice things that is that is
just said. And you know, part of it is a
(09:05):
blessing that you didn't have to deal with that at
Notre Dame and in the NFL the way it is.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
In the NFL when we got there, I mean we
had the Facebook and Underdame, so my senior year, you know,
that was something that people just I never really understood.
Why would people want to put their public business out there?
It's still to this day doesn't make sense for me. Now,
I know a lot of people make money off it.
A lot of people are doing marketing off that. There's
so there's some purpose to it. Don't get me wrong,
(09:35):
but I was always more of the private type in general,
and even more than that, I just kind of figured, well,
if I was going to do something I wasn't supposed
to be doing, I definitely don't have to do it
where my parents could see it, right. I one of
my buddies, you know, then girlfriend now wife. I remember,
like she was to tell a story how her parents
(09:57):
they would always watch the Hallmark channel because a Notre Dame.
They'd have masks, they'd er it on Sunday mornings, and
you know, no matter what she did the night that
Saturday night before it was, she was always in that
front pew. And so that when they were watching all
the way from Idaho and they saw her, they saw
her there at church, they said, all right, all's good
(10:18):
in the world. All's good in the world. And it's
like and I sit there and say, like, I miss
those days because I'm like, there was a period of
time where you could make mistakes and the whole world
didn't have to see it, right, and these kids aren't
dealing with that now. I mean, for example, the other
piece of this was the whole arch manning part of it, right, Like,
didn't something come up with his Venmo?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yes? Yeah, people were posting fake pictures, you know, on
his Venmo. And here's the thing is, like, by the way,
I don't know what they are. You don't know what's
real what's not real anymore?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
By the way, Well, so you're trying to discern and
like I don't know, I don't know like what to
think of all that. I sit there and just kind
of saying to myself, all right, like he's a young kid,
and even if it's true, he's made some poor decisions.
Like I feel like there's a number of players like
we kind of talk about or say that about, but
that that's that's how I look at it, Like it's
hard to be too harsh on these kids, even though
(11:14):
they're still kind of, you know, growing mature and there
in the spotlight. It's hard to really come down on
them like that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Dude, I'm with you. I feel for them again, and
we have this let's we keep receipts well, receipts on
a fourteen year old and what they're tweeting, and you know,
maybe maybe there's no context, maybe it is vile or whatever,
but if there's fourteen fifteen years old, they should have
the ability to make a mistake and learn from it,
(11:42):
right right, And they I mean, you're gonna bring up
old tweets from children and stuff that's being said, and
I who knows what you're thinking? Right, Like, they're not rational,
They're children, They're kids that are growing that are gonna
make mistakes. You've said it, like, allow them to be fallible.
(12:03):
We're all you were all fallible, were human beings, so
especially the youth, like you know, it is what it is,
especially stuff like this.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's it's newer. It's tough to understand how to navigate me.
And hell, I didn't even know there was a public
private on Venmo. I just I never used Venmo, so
I never had to worry about that. But I was
gonna ask, like Lee and Lorena, do you guys use Venmo?
Are you more apple pant? Like what do you guys
use for your your payment platform?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I famously remember that I do use Venmo, And the
problem is that it is the default is public. I
always have to switch it over to private. You have
to do it for every transaction. And I remember you
paid me for whatever reason. It's probably a lot of
tickets or something like that, and you'd it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Of tickets that you didn't buy, that you want them.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I have the receipts under but yeah, but indeed I
did not.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Wait, you didn't buy you said you bought the Anthony.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
We all we all threw in fifty bucks. I think
when the was the was it power ball?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, it was like a billion or two billion or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
We all threw them like, oh it's twenty bucks. Fifty bucks. Yeah,
you know, And let's just put it this way. Half
the whatever the money was, only half them out went
to the tickets.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I think this is what I think. This is where
I where you guys are mad at me, and I
will maintain all the money you gave to me went
to lotto tickets. But you guys wanted to put like
sixty bucks down to each or something. I was like,
I only am comfortable putting down twenty, So I put down.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, So so Lee, if we're gonna go here, all right,
tell Anthony yes, about you being the commission of your
fantasy football leagues. It's obviously that's starting up, yep, So
tell them, tell them about your fantasy football league, and
once you do with the money last.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So some leagues, you know, they collect the money upfront
and some do them at the end of the season.
I happened to collect upfront. I also happened to be
in five other leagues where that are like one hundred
bucks each to buy in. So I sometimes might use
that money that people are paying me to hold on
to to pay for my other leagues, hedge my bets,
and so I'm basically playing the whole season just to
(14:02):
not have to pay at the end of the season,
because basically I'm gonna have to reach into my own
bank account to like bring out five hundred bucks to
either pay the winner or pay myself. But yeah, that
money that that usually goes to me usually ends up
getting used on the other leaks.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I mean, is that not a no?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's like, if there's ever a time where you shouldn't
be commissioner, and it's probably this.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Hey, everyone gets paid at the end of the year.
They all get their money.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Hold on you say this now, publicly. Do you forget
the things you say earlier in the show, like like
months ago.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, I always forget what I say. I never remember.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well, okay, so Anthony, it took him, I think like
six weeks to pay back the winner of his league
because he had used all the money on other things.
I think this was back when du yeah, dirty Mic
and the boys broke into his car stole a bunch
of stuff. So he was dealing with some Yeah, there's
some extenuating circumstances.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
He sometimes you got to reach into the piggy bank. No,
I know, it's a bad commissioner thing. I usually should
have a treasury. That's why you should have a treus,
like somebody who's a little more trustworthy. But you know,
that's why you have, you know, different governing bodies you
can sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Have and you're still the commissioner. They ain't even ask to.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You yell yeah that I am the commissioner, because somebody
has to do the other dirty work of getting twelve
guys to you know, commit to a time and date
and keeping the rules.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's just it doesn't sound that hardly. I'll be honest
with you, dude.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That would not go over well South Philly like back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, I mean what about today? I mean I don't
think it's go. Well, this sounds like a Southern California league,
is what it sounds like?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Hey, man, Like I said, everybody gets paid. They all
get their Money's.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Not let you in his league anytime?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
No way, man, Well, the prices go up every year
for each league, for each league. You know what started
out is like Bucks buy ins are now one.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Hundred different expenditures.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, that's very expensive. But to answer your question from
the beginning, Yeah, most younger people, I think use Venmo,
Apple pay Ice will get confused by sometimes. I don't
trust it as much as Venmo for.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Some reason, we Apple pen.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I love Apple Pye. He is right in my pocket.
I've got to open up a special app. I just
got to your text message and go bink bink bink boom.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
My mom accidentally sent money to the wrong person the
other last week, and she tried to like say, hey,
can you send that money back? And they never did.
They don't have to. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Oh jeez, wait, now let me ask you won't think
because the other thing of the aspect of this is
the ratting nature yeah, Lorraining what what what is it
about now putting everybody on blast? Because in a sense,
in that sense.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
It's ratting, right, You're talking about like Venmo and like
how you can well, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's probably not look at this, everybody will now rat
out their friends.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, And I've been stuck in that situation before. I
was hanging out with this one guy and his girlfriend's like,
why did you send Loraena twenty five bucks? Why are
you even talking to her? So it's like, yeah, Venmo's
kind of like the you.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Shouldn't use it. Yeah, and to say for the arch
Manny thing, like the stuff that they would say, this
is what typical guys will do. They'll say, like, here's
twenty bucks for butt stuff. This is literally quoting arch
Manning's Venmo page, which has been deactivated. It's always stuff
like that. It's always something that's inappropriate and not what
it really is. For funny. Is often on there a
(17:28):
bunch of drug references. You know, maybe sometimes that's the case,
but most of the time it's a joke between guys exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I said that people take it serious and then they
want to blast it out to rattle people. The rat
culture I just can't. I don't dig rady. That's the
one thing about today that I can't get behind is
the rat culture.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
There's too many guys, you know, tat to tail on
each other and all that stuff, which I'm trying to
figure out.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I was like, I just that'ched one of my Venmo,
which I'd never had Venmo until I did a golf trip,
and some guys are like, why don't you have Venmo?
Like I have Apple Pay, Like why can't you guys
just do that? But no one told me it was
it was public, so thank god it is on a
private setting. But yeah, I just I don't know. I
don't know. I'm not sure if it's just because there's
(18:18):
so much transparency now with being able to track and
trace everything. But again, as we talked about before, we're
venturing into a world where it's getting hard to differentiate
aim from reality, at least in that realm. And if
that's the case, I think this makes it really really
tough for people to kind of jump to what is
(18:41):
public perception now, and public perception is you have to
prove your innocence. Yeah, Like it's no longer like you know,
they have to prove that you're guilty, and they have
to prove that you actually did something wrong. Nowadays, someone
makes an accusation, everyone assumes guilt and you have to
prove your innocence. And that's an extremely slippery slope. And
it's one of the reasons why if you look at
(19:03):
you know, for example, like some of our are founding,
you know, documents that have created this country, where they
are structured in a way that they were, they should
withstand the test of time. But you know, today's society
and perception of all naturally challenging it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Oh dude, you're spot a brother. Uh my man Nikki
and pa he said the lottery tickey money law during
is Bro code mortal sin stuff?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Wowly, First of all, the lotto tickets, I maintain I
used all the money for the stuff for the lotto tickets.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Now you maintain that. But here's the problem is when
I'm supposed to buy xly, I can't supposed to buy
X amount of tickets I did and you only bought
half that amount.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Not true, because you guys demanded that I pay as
much as you guys did, and I didn't want them
to pay that much. I didn't want to pay sixty
bucks for a lot of tickets, and I used my
money to buy it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
This is where it gets deeper, Anthony. If we all
throw in, let's just say round numbers, Okay, fifty bucks. Right,
there's there's four of us, so it should be two
hundred bucks that we're buying a lot of tickets because
we're trying to hit the jackpot.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I get this.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
If one of us only throws in, what ten bucks
leagueuse the rest you spent on booze, that means really
about one hundred and sixty. And the problem with that
is you still think you're in for the share of
the jackpot if we win.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Maybe the percentage shouldn't Yeah, a percentage of it? I
should no, yeah, no, yeah. Well here's the thing. This
happens in office pools all the time, where like all
of a sudden, somebody sets a limit of saying, like, oh,
we should all put in fifty bucks. Not everybody in
the office wants to put fifty bucks down, Karen, And like,
all of a sudden, it's pure pressure and everybody has
to put down a lot more than they're comfortable with.
(20:46):
That was this case.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, then you shouldn't put down any you're.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Out, You're out.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, you're buying a pleas over there.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, that's exactly, That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It is like some places make it where you have
to put down. You have to down.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, Lee, that was our rules, pal, and you end
up spending it on boo.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Dude, LeVar didn't even pay. LeVar didn't pay you.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I had to pay.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I had to pay up for Levar's I had to
pay Levar's tab on that. The whole thing he had
to pay me.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
He paid me back going on.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That was where the controversy came in.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Is because he did pay you.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
He did pay you way after the fact.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Way, so he pulled the lapt what he paid six
weeks after pay the guy won your league exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That's a double violation. Brady stuck with you. Guys.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
My god, we had agreed, we had agreed to a
certain number. In Brady's like, no, put more down, And
I was like, I got a court.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
That was a big one. It was like over a billion.
I was like, that's probably the one you want to
throw some money off.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, I think one ticket is just as good as
sixty in my opinion, when it comes to the.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Loss, but mathematically not.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But I think what we were trying to do, uh, Anthony,
is we were trying to buy enough tickets so that
we had a greater chance of getting struck by lightning.
No excuse me, we had a better chance of winning
the lotto than getting struck by lightning. I think that
was what we were trying to get to. I don't know.
Somehow that felt like more like pay a little better
luck to that one.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't know. All right, all right, sit tight, we'll
be back in just a moment. Lots to get to.
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Two Pros a Cup of Joe. Brady Quinn, I'm here
with the Guary. What filming in for the guys? Real?
Adam Schefter just reported James Cook and the Bill reach
a contract extension, the most guaranteed money for a running
back in the last five years.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Brady, Wow, I mean obviously saw Saquan's deal, you know,
after the Super Bowl and everything this this season as
far as the average annual value, But haven't seen the
numbers for this yet. What is that number for the
most guaranteed or is he just you know, simply steady.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, he's stating he didn't put it out yet.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Forty eight million extension, thirty million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh there is Oh, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I mean he's a very talented player. You just hope
he can stay healthy. It's always concerned with every running back,
but in particular with him too, you know, I think,
but he's I mean again, when they lean on him,
he can do it all man. He can catch out
the backfield. Well, he's kind of got that, that vision
and that slipperiness to him for you know, for his size.
(24:53):
But it's an interesting move when you look at you know,
Philly obviously invested in Saquon and they to help lead
them to a super Bowl and then they give them
the extension. This offseason, the Bills are trying to get one.
They're trying to get there, and now they got a
guy obviously who you know, again they haven't leaned on
to carry them a Ton, But as they build up
(25:15):
their score right around Josh Allen, it does feel like
they're investing the money in the right spot and maybe
that pendulum for the value of a running back is
swinging back the other way, where now these guys are
starting to actually be able to capture their worth as
opposed to just being looked at as you know, running
back by a committee room or just some sort of
(25:35):
commodity that you can get a running back anywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Well, think about it, right before last year, Shea Kwan
and Derrick Henry are your free agents. Like they're free agents.
The two best backs in the league are free agents,
and they go for nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Relatively speak right, right and again, like if you look
at how much they're actually impacting the offense and carrying
the load for a lot of these teams, it's just
it's crazy. But I understand the business standpoint of it too.
You know, if you can find guys who come in
that do it just as good of a job, you
know you can get for cheaper, it makes sense. I
(26:17):
think the interesting dynamic that I've seen in regard that
regard to like the economics for running backs in the
NFL is a lot of running backs are staying longer
in college because they can earn more money and they're
valued more at that level as opposed to at the NFL,
where once they get there they get their shot and
then they you know, if they can't make it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You're not getting at Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You're not getting a second contract. So you know, yeah,
it makes sense. You know. It was definitely not one
of the cause and effects that I thought we see
from name, image and likeness and college players being paid,
But that was one of the effects.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
No, I mean, we'll think about it, and there's always
a steadfast rule that you burn it back out and
you don't get in a second contract. A lot of
gms operated under that. You don't want to you don't
want to do it. So if you're if you're gonna
do that, then the running back needs to stay and
then you come in you get your one big contract.
(27:15):
You know, they'll say quantity and anomaly, right, I mean,
you know, plus last year a lot of highway bodels.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, And I think that's also one of the
pitches that you hear from a lot of these colleges
where they stack those running back rooms and they'll say,
you're not gonna get you know, get a lot of
you know where on your on your tires. We're gonna
we're gonna rotate you guys in you know, so it
doesn't matter who you. I mean, look at penns Day,
we talked about them, k Tron, Allen, Nick Singleton, Notre
Dame's got an entire room of guys. I mean it's
(27:43):
you know, Anias Williams, Jeremiah Love and Jendarian Price, like
they'll all three share the carries and and you know
it's it's helped out as far as recruiting and some
of these teams being able to retain a lot of
the top running backs knowing that hey, if my number
gets called ten times a game, great, it's gonna keep
me fresh on me looked at the exact same by
the NFL level as I you know, I'm gonna be
(28:06):
in college and so I can get paid for another
year or two real money and and then eventually go
on take you know, take my crack at the NFL. Hey,
let me ask you, what do you think of the bills?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Because we just got done talking about the cook extension,
and this is it Like the Chiefs now they're great
and obviously and I don't think they're gonna have a
fall off. I may Andy rebuild is offensive line and
they're really good, but this is the year, right If
I want to make any other team a favorite, it's Buffalo.
(28:41):
Do they have it enough for Josh on the outside,
with Coleman, gear and Palmer.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
It's so tough to feel like they do. However, I mean,
we've seen years where you know, we've questioned that. I mean, obviously,
remember when the Chiefs left Tyreek Hill and then they
still end up winning a Super Bowl, and so it
does mean you always necessarily have to happen. Now, granted,
they've got a future Hall of Famer at tight end.
Uh maybe Daltonkin kaid And and Dawson Knox the combination
can help shoulder some of that, but they really need
(29:11):
to see some some growth and improvement out of that group.
I just you know, I'm not sure Cliff skor you know,
Shakiru Keon, Coleman and Palmer are are going to be
able to carry it. But again, you look at the
money where they're investing in James Cook, that's probably a
signal they're gonna be running football a little more balanced
than they have been and that's not necessarily a bad
(29:34):
right and and that's what helps protect them, right, you know,
running the football, playing great defense, but they're going to
have to have someone step up to be able to
make the big play when when called upon. And unfortunately
for them, they you know, had that guy on Diggs.
He's no longer there. You know, whether or not they're
they're feeling that loss, I don't think they do. In
the regular season. I think that's that's a loss that
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you face when you get to the better teams and
those teams start to kind of take away something and
then you you struggle to be able to find that
guy that can step up in the big moment. You know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
That maybe because you need somebody could spread that could
spread the field in those big games, right, like you
see all its shrinks on you. I mean, look how
the Chiefs play you. They're gonna they're gonna play you
short in the game, and and they're gonna if you
had that home run hitter on the outside, I mean,
that's it. That's I think that's the only thing they lack.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, and look at Keon Coleman might develop into that,
you know, he might be you know that guy at
some point. But until until that happens, you know, until
you see that growth, I mean, you're just not gonna
feel over the confidence and then being able to win
that way. And to your point, look, some some coaches
feel more comfortable if they, you know, are able to
spread the football around. But I think they'd be lying
(30:51):
to you if they didn't feel like, hey, we need
to have that one guy though we know we can
depend upon in that critical moment. And I don't know
that they, you know, like again, they have that guy
unless I don't know. Maybe maybe Bill's fans feel like
I'm wrong and maybe Coleman will become that but I
don't know that asily.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Maybe I hope he does. I listen, I love McDermott.
I'm a big Sean McDermott guy. I know Sean from
back in the day. He's great people, great family and
uh and I listen. If there is a fan base
that deserves to win, like Justice, it's that fan base.
I mean, let's be real, like they deserve if Justice
(31:31):
says anything, they deserve a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah. No, I mean I think there's a few up there.
I was I was thinking I got of the rust
Bell Cleveland, Detroit Ball any one of those three. I'm
waiting for you guys to get a super Bowl Detroit Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But yeah, yes, oh, you know it's true. Those three,
those three franchises, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo. They're great fans, right,
the tremendous football people and they're loyal, you know, Sports
Justice six mile long.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It should Well, we'll see if if it really does.
I just love the fact that, you know, the Bill's
new stadium, it's still going to encompass some of the elements.
Apparently they've dug it down solo and I'm not sure
if you saw this that the wind really isn't going
to impact the game. At least that's what they're saying
based on the construct of this stadium, that it will
be an outdoor venue, but the wind should not impact
(32:30):
the actual game conditions. So I got to read more
than that and figure out how that's the case. I mean,
you'd figure if it's open air at some point wind
could could have to play a factor. I just remember
the old stadium, that thing would swirl And I'll never
forget because one of my first one of my first
starts was on Monday Night football. There and it was
(32:51):
cold and it was windy, and when we would I
would walk around the field with Phil Dawson and Dave's
astido or a kicker and punter, and we talk about,
you know, kind of the wind to different spots. Because
if you're a midfield and you're throwing a go ball
on the left hand side of that back pilon, it's
gonna get knocked down. You throw it to the right side,
the right pylon, it's gonna carry it out of bounds.
(33:12):
And so it's almost like hitting like a golf shot.
I mean, you were really talking about the way you
had to kind of adjust how you're gonna throw based
on where you were on the field. You know, I
think coming out, I'm throwing a go ball down the
left hand side, Uh, it's gonna be into the wind.
You don't have to flip your thinking, and like, those
are little things you don't think about. But man, it
that wasn't It was always an interesting stadium to have
(33:35):
to play in and try to throw the football and
then pierce to that win.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
To me, how Allen will cut throw it? How he
could cut through the win?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, Well, he's got a strong with a farm and
he spins it. Well, Like that's one thing that you
see a lot of these a lot of these guys
to come out of college. You know, they really try
to hone in on trying to spin the football because
if you throw it, if you throw lobbly ball, man,
that thing is never gonna make it through like now
you always do, like the Kurt Warner, even Peyton back
in the day. I mean, those guys are playing inside
(34:07):
for half their games. We thank god because they would
not be able to throw through that sort of win.
But you know, it's a little more comforting to be
able to play in the confines of being indoors and
not have to deal with those sorts of conditions. You
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Speaker 2 (34:38):
Look at that. That's a that's a transition, my man,
A coming up. I gotta get your revice. I'm serious,
I need your advice bad, all right, so we'll do
that lots of stuff. I got a violation question for
you as we continue. Two Pros A Cup of Joe,
(34:59):
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Speaker 5 (35:04):
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Speaker 1 (35:48):
Boat, It's right there.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So I got a buddy of mine who pitched for
the Diamondbacks. All right, okay, all right, So, so his
name is Mike Koplov. He's a terrific dude. He's now
a scout for the Phillies. When he was young, his
father was it not. His father was a lawyer, big
(36:14):
sports fan, and he had two sons and he was like,
I'm gonna get my sons to.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
The big leagues.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
He was a crazy sports dad, and so he got
you know, he got baseball was their ticket. He got
both of them to throw really hard effect. His younger
one would have made it too, but then he blew
out his elbow. He was throwing like ninety eight. But
the oldest one, Mike. He when Mike was eighth grade.
(36:44):
He comes up. Now his father was a lawyer. He
comes home with this envelope with the Phillies like logo
on it. And then he then he has like this
letter with letter and from the Phillies, and on the
letter was we have signed you. This is a contract offer,
(37:08):
and we're gonna sign you at age eight if you
do the following things. And it listed out. It was
like his father did like an eight paces protract.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
This is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
His father's name is Steve Kaploff. Great dude, but out
of his mind, I mean, completely crazy sports dad. It's
like an eight page contract of all the things he
had to do every day, and it was all the
duties and we will sign you at the minute you
graduate high school if you fulfill all this stuff. So
(37:50):
Mike was like, wow, the Phillies are gonna sign me,
Oh my god. And you know, he held this thing
in his room. He said he believed it for like
two years and then and then you know, every once
in a while, like a letter would come, and then finally
figure it out. But guess what, it got him to
(38:12):
the bigs without a doubt. It got it like he
did all the work everything. His father's a genius.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So his father is a genius. Although in today's day
and age, like the kids get open letters like that anymore,
I guess you could still do that.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I guess yeah. I mean, listen, I'm sure there's still
a correspondence that you can like. I like. So I'm
trying to figure out how do I use this all? Right?
For my own kids. So I got a fifteen year
old I don't really worry about he is. He plays edge,
he's a defensive end. He's going to through a sophomore
year in high school, big boy, and he just does
(38:51):
all the right things, Right, My little one is a quarterback.
He's twelve. He wears a size we just got a
new cleats here. He's eleven and a half, he just
turned twelve. He's got huge hands he's gonna have he's
profiles really well, and he's got an arm. He's got
like he's got a great arm. So I'm trying to figure.
(39:14):
I'm like, dude, you got to study. Like I try
try to get him into like really loving the game
from an exito standpoint, and you know, listen, obviously, because
of what I do, I have a lot of assets.
I mean, you know, Uncle Baldy's down the street at
NFL Films. We got all the tape we want, right right,
So he's you know, he's twelve, right, So of course
(39:39):
he's not gonna he's not gonna comply. He got any thoughts,
like when did you start like breaking stuff down?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I mean it's tough for me because I've always been really,
really curious and at a young age. You know, I
remember my my uncle would take me and I would
help track down and scout for one of his buddies.
I was coaching high school ball, and I was doing
that at like seven years old, you know, as far
as the witch hash run past what way, like they
(40:08):
would kind of tell me everything down in distance. And
so I just I think everyone's wired different. I just
think you got to find a way of igniting that
spark in them. I mean, look, I'm a datify my
kids are still young, but like each one of them
is so so different than how you go about trying
to motivate and for soccer, volleyball, gymnastics, whatever, lacrosse, whatever
else they're playing. Each one it's like it's its own
(40:31):
sports psychology to it. So I just I think you
got to keep leaning into like whatever excites in the
most about it and hopefully that triggers something.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, yeah, I got you, all right, big I We're
coming up next. Don't go anywhere
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