July 8, 2025 • 40 mins
Brian & Geoff talk about a recent interview from Patrick Mahomes where he talks about wanting to put their Super Bowl loss to the Eagles behind them and just move on to next season, how Angel Reese would look better with a better team around her, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Happy uh Tuesday to you as we fill in again,
very happy to be here. You know what's funny, Jeff,
is that sometimes negativity in your life is a horrible thing.
You know, if you if you got someone that's just
negative all the time, it's a lot to deal with.
It can bring you down the whole thing. The sports
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world can be completely different at times. And I would
point to the Kansas City Chiefs. So Patrick Mahomes, he
was a guest on up in Adams with Kay Adams.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I believe it was yesterday sometimes really yeah, it was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes, yeah, And he was talking about his approach to
this season. So he's asked the question. Listen to what
Mahomes says here, check it out.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I'm seeing the terms revenge tour. I've actually said that one.
I've seen scorched earth. Can you frame what your mentality
is so I know how to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
You know, I'm honestly just ready to play football. Whenever
you lose, you kind of have this taste of your
mouth that you want to go out there and revenge
that or whatever you want to say. But at the
same time, I feel like I've had to sit back
and just listen to people talk and talk, and I'm like,
let's just play football and just handle it all out there.
And I don't really want to talk about it. I
was gonna go out and show who we are as
a Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So to me, the first part of that is certainly
there's a bitter taste after getting smacked in the Super
Bowl against the Eagles. So that's the obvious part. But
the other part here that really stands out is what
he said, you got to sit there and listen to
all these people talk and talk and talk and talk.
Is it Emmanuel Lacco who threw it out there like, hey,
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is this the beginning of the decade long Super Bowl
drought for Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And sometimes it's far worse than that.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's far more critical after they looked as bad as
they did.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's you hear all.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
This talk, and I just I am not willing to
sell my chief stock. If anything, it makes me want
to buy more because I can buy a little bit lower.
Right now, Jeff, I think they're gonna be a pain
in the rectum this year, man, I think they're gonna
be much better. Like you look they're wide receivers. That
was the other SoundBite. I'll get that to you in
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a little bit. But you look how deep they are
with their wide receivers. Rashie Rice is back and Hollywood
Brown is back. Just those two guys being healthy is
huge for the Chiefs. And I think getting smacked in
the Super Bowl and having to hear all the talk
and all the doubts, I think it's going to make
them that much more dangerous this season.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
So we are a sports viewing culture that's very reaction
into the last thing we saw, right, it makes sense.
We were humans, right, The last thing we saw was
an uncompetitive Chiefs team in the Super Bowl. And it's
very unlike the Chiefs. Right. They are there, if anything,
very you know, very predictable, and that they're going to
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play close games for the most part, right, and they
do things like they just sort of the one thing
they do that that was under talked about it I
talk about it, you know, is that they just don't
they sort of don't lose games. The other teams lose games, right,
And they just got smacked around. And the last time,
by the way, they got smacked around was the Tanna
based Super Bowl. And they came back the next year
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with a vengeance again. Right there you go. So I
think people haven't really done a deep dive on the
roster and you have, I have, and it's a very
good roster. Still, they didn't lose that game because they're
I think that much worse than Philly. I think a
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couple of factors were there. They weren't as good as Philly,
and then I don't think they realized how good Phillies
off of the defensive lines were. It looked like a
game where it's like, oh, yeah, we'll just do what
we do and they're like, oh boy, like we got
plunge in the mouth and just weren't ready for what
Philly brought. Philly was ready to play that game, like
you know, like they just were a different They played
different speed, different physicality. If the Chiefs were to play
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now that they would understand what was coming for them.
But you mentioned wide receiver right to start last year,
Mahomes had obviously Rachie Rice Okay, rookie Xavier Worthy, and
Travis Kelsey is sort of the main three guys right
because Hollywood Brown was supposed to be the other guy
who got hurt in the preseason. Unfortunately jury in the preseason.
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They went to the last year with Travis Kelcey not
being the first option. It was Rachie Rice said, thirty
catches over the first three weeks. Then then right he
got hurt and now you're looking at injured Rachie Rice.
Right old Travis kelce who's not supposed to be your
number one, and work Exavier Worthy. That's kind of tough sledding, right. Yeah.
Four left tackles played last season for them, including Joe
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Tootey and moved from guard to tackle to help him out.
So this year the enter training camp very healthy. You
mentioned wide receiver. I don't have to want to play
that clip of Mahomes if it works now for you
or not. Yes, but it's Rachie Rice's aver Worthy year
two and it's Hollywood Brown now healthy as can be. Plus,
I think they like their draft pick from a Utah state.
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I believe it was right. Yeah, yeah, so's it's just
a much healthier offense. Offensive line they've made a lot
of changes, should be better this season. So offensively they're
gonna be better. And you know they've heard all the
stuff and almosts can't throw deep anymore. Kye, Mahomes can't
do this. Moms can't do that. If teams and athletes
tell you they don't read that stuff, they might not
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read it personally, it gets sent to them. They see
all of it. In an NFL building, there's a guy
who's in charge basically printing off all the articles and
giving them to the head coach. You can see them like,
there's guy Mahomes sees everything. His His trainer is very
famously very online, but he said he notices these things.
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So the Chiefs have seen it. They know how to win,
they know how to prepare. Their division number is minus
one twenty right now with the division, Brian, it's insanely low. So, Buddy,
I'm a Chiefs fan, of course, but I'm still in
on the Chiefs. No one could beat them in the AFC,
like until Baltimore or Buffalo show they can do it.
You got to think Kansas City is right back where
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they always are.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, And the stat that you're talking about, the Chiefs
were twenty seventh in passing plays of twenty yards or
more downfield last season, twenty seventh twenty plus yards downfield.
But you have to look at the why you don't
just look at that and be like, oh wow, they're
not what they once were. It's a no, no, no no.
Why was that? And what's different about that? Why that
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was is what you pointed out. They had a bunch
of wide receiver injuries. That was a big part of it.
And then also the offensive line, like when you've got
a turnstyle like at left tackle, it's just like, you know,
left tackle by.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Committee, that's not great.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And so you consistently didn't have enough time to throw
the ball downfield to Xavier Worthies, the one guy after
the injuries who's really putting pressure on defenses downfield.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So what's different about that?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Now you mentioned it, all these dudes are back healthy again,
all of a sudden, the offensive line looks to be
a little bit stronger. They got Jalen Moore over there
from San Francisco, and they drafted Josh Simmons out of
Ohio State. And it's in Jason Kelcey, fine offensive linemen
retired now, right, But he had some really high praise
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for Josh Simmons. So he's on his podcast with Travis
Kelcey and he said, you see this, Jeff compared him
to Trent Williams.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yeah, I think Kelsey sort of knew in the in
the media thing, right, huh. I think sometimes I was
this way where like you just start saying superlatives and
like it's.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Like running downhill and you're like, you know, like.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
When you start doing you sort of knew, Like I
just no, I know. Okay. I think that's very high
praise for a young fellow who hasn't played, uh in
the NFL yet. I'm also I'll just say this, I
am allergic okay too, Like I break out in hives
if I compare players to the best of the league,
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like it like young young players, Like it really frustrates
me how we go like like in the draft, right
every year you're like like fast little wide receiver next
Tyreek Hill, I'm like, or like undersized dtackle guys next
Aaron Donald. I'm like, oh, I break out of hives. Yeah.
Like it just feels like, like I know, the player
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calm thing is big business. But Trent Williams is a
Hall of Famer. I feel like that's a little early
to compare Josh Shimmons, who's yeah, tape didn't really He's
not Williams. He can be I guess one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Day, right, he's not.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's hard for you to buy it right now. For
the people I didn't see it. This is what Jason
Kelsey said about Josh Simmons. So Josh Simmons thirty second
overall pick, first round pick of the Chiefs, and Jason
Kell's he said, I've watched a lot of these linemen
coming out the last few years. This kid, I mean,
he's the closest thing I've seen to a Trent Williams,
like the next level strength and athleticism. The only reason
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he fell to you, guys is because of that that injury,
the teller tendon injury. That's Trent Williams with the Niners
right fifteen seasons, eleven Pro Bowls. He was named All
Pro three times. He's pretty much the gold standard of
a left tackle in the NFL right now. He's one
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of the guys on the short list that are still
at the top.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Of the game.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And man, when you haven't played a down, I don't
go as far as you do, Jeff. I look at
it more stylistically, like, are you do you play a
similar style.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
To like No one plays a similar style to to
Trent Williams, Like that's that's also part of it as
Well's own style. He is, he's you would never accuse
him of being like the best technician like he's just
is and he's his own style. And so that's why
also comparing him, you know, feel feels tough at times.
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I look Simmons if he was healthy would have been
often tackle number one like man's down.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Speaking about Trent Williams quickly. There's a new award called
the Protector of the Year Award, and Trent Williams is
I believe the third best odds, it's Pine Soul, Lane
Johnson and Trent Williams. I have wager on Trent Williams
to win this award. I wagered Lane Johnson to win
this award, and I wagered Creede Humphrey to win this award.
(10:35):
If you're feeling like you would like to get in
on this action, those are three guys I have picked
to win the award. If I need to add Penny
Soul later I will, But those are the three guys
I feel comfortable with right now. Trent Williams at you
know nine to one, who made three all pros in
a row before he got hurt last season, feels like
a good bet to make.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, it seems like decent value, especially when he was
That helps him this year too, if you're looking at
the betting market, he was banged up so much. So
if he comes back this year and plays well and
it's healthy throughout most of the season, and the Niners
have this cake schedule and end up with a bunch
of wins, right Like, there's a lot going for you
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to back Trent Williams out there.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Oh yeah, we'll pay it off real fast.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
This was the audio of Mahomes talking about the weapons
he has to throw to check this out.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You want fifteen games with a banged up team, not
your number one wide receiver, a full compliment in that
receiver room. What are you most excited about outside of
hopefully health.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I think it's just gonna be. It's gonna come from everywhere.
I mean, obviously you got Rashibi and back, he looks great,
if Xavier Worthy who came on so strong at the
end of last year, you have Hollywood Brown healthy again,
guys everywhere you had in Travis Kelcey a Hall of Famer,
and Noah Great a great tight end, and everybody that
we've added to all those different rooms where we have
so many weapons. Let's go out there and just maximize
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it all. It's not gonna be just one person. It's
gonna be the entire offense going out there in showcase.
What the Chakansas City Chiefs truly are.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know what's interesting too, Jeff, is like you watched
the Chiefs last year and you're like, how are they
doing this? They're doing it with smoking mirrors and they're
still winning games, but it doesn't look like the Chiefs.
They don't look dominant, and the injuries had a lot
to do with it. And look, they could get injured
again this season. It's football. But if they're blessed with
better health, they're certainly gonna be blessed with better health
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at the beginning of the season. That's gonna make a
huge difference. And beyond the wide receivers and tight ends
and weapons to throw to, Isaiah Pacheco being back when
he's healthy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He gives them a lot of juice.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And he missed most of the season due to injury
and he wasn't close to the same when he came back.
Think think about Saquon Barkley and the pressure he took
off of Jalen Hurts like Mahomes didn't have.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Kareem Hunt played pretty well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But it's not the same as having this younger Isaiah
Pachecko who just runs violently when he's at full strength.
That's a big asset to the Chiefs offense that they
didn't have throughout most of the last season.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
He's back to his normal self. That's that's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Also, drafted a running back of the seventh round who
they really like, who's very explosive, cause they need to
get a little explosive at that position, and and that
that he provides that to them as well. Look, I
mentioned this earlier and it's worth I think exploring here,
Like there is a quality to not losing games in sports,
and you know, college sports definitely feels this way more
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than the NFL, but you know, or more than the
pro sports. But you know, college sports a lot of
times teams lose games rather than win games. Right, we
saw all the time, and we saw in college baseball
most recently where Arkansas just like imploded the final ending,
like LSU hit zero hard baseballs and one in the
like Archanitels just imploded. Happens all the time. In college
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or happens to the NFL too. How often do you
watch the NFL games and a quarterback does something You're
just like, what are you? What are you doing, buddy.
The one of the Chiefs qualities that they have is
they don't make mistakes that cost them games. They don't
have bad turnovers. They you know, Jowan Taylor gets penalized
their right tackle, but for the most part, they don't
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have crippling penalties. Right Other teams have those penalties. Other
teams turn the ball over, other teams do really silly things.
The Chiefs, Brian, don't do that. And that's a testament
to the coaching staff, to the players. They just don't
make a lot of mistakes at the end of games.
That's why they win those games. It's not because to
your point last year, they're more talented. It's third and
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three to win the game. They execute on third and three.
Other teams, the forty nine ers in Super Bowl just
don't block Chris Jones. You know, that's the difference in
winning and losing. And the Chiefs have that quality about them.
The Patriots for so I mean times, the Patriots for years.
We talked about that with the Patriots, and so that
is something that you can't quantify, like there's no numbers
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for that, right, there's no like, there's no thing you
put on paper. But here's the Chiefs clutch time winning
stats and the NFL. But that is why they're so good.
And if you add back in a little bit of
talent which they have on offense, which anything defensively they're
fine with talent, it makes them a very dangerous team.
And yeah, they have a tough schedule every year, So
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it's no different this year than than last year the
year before that. People point their schedule say, oh their schedule,
it's hard every year. Yet the first place schedule. So
either going to be fine this year. Again, I've wagered
them to win the division and I think Mahomes will
be an MVP discussion this year. Like legitimately, I think
he's gonna have a really good season.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, makes sense. That's the thing is they hardly ever
beat themselves. And that's what was so shocking about the
Super Bowl, where the first half is Mahomes making silly decisions,
you know, throwing in a couple of interceptions, pressing like
stupid penalties. They really shot themselves in the foot time
and time again, which was so uncharacteristic, and so it
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sounds like I'm disagreeing with you.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I'm really not.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It's that I think a lot of people have forgotten
about how they routinely do not beat themselves. Because they
did it on the biggest stage. They certainly assisted the
Eagles in beating them, and that's why sometimes you just
forget about that. I think a lot of people are
forgetting about that they have the ingredients to win so
many games because they typically don't beat themselves and they're healthier.
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So yeah, I'm buying the Chiefs this year.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
I think people also want them to like, you know,
people don't like that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They're tired of them.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
They want them to lose, but they've been in the.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Super Bowl five of the last six years. Like they're
tired of the Chiefs. They want new blood in there,
no doubt.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
But I do think Brian, this is the last year
with Kelsey, and I don't know if all ends the
right term, but I feel like they know that this
is the team will look different next season, sure, and
they need to maximize the last year of Kelsey. Chris
Jones is getting older, like you know, there's some guys
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that are getting up in age, and so this is
the year to sort of do everything. And so I
think there's that mindset. I'm not sure they will vocalize this,
but everyone sort of knows, like this is it for
Kelsey right, yes, for Chris Jones, but getting older and
they need to capitalize on those players. It's still in
their in their prime yea. And so they'll have that
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mindset this season.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, I'm with you all right.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Coming up next, which athlete is hurt the most by
a horrible supporting cast and which athlete benefits the most
from a great supporting cast. That's on the way. He's
Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now we're in for Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe.
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We're in for two pros and a cup of Joe.
You know it's funny, Jeff, you texted me a couple
of numbers about Angel Reese yesterday and they're not They're
not great. They're that great. This one really caught my attention.
Is this really the case Angel Reese has the worst
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plus minus of any player who isn't on the Sun.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Wow, that is a stat right there, man.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I believe the uh I believe I can look it
up right now that the starting five of the Son
have the worst plus mind, is no surprise that they
are all on AJL. Reese's second.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Wow. Interesting.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, I mean, well, not second, I mean she's sixth,
but six to worst. But first for the for a
non Connecticut son, I've not checked after last night. I
don't I mean, I don't know why last night would matter.
They didn't play, but yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So I started thinking about that, and I was thinking
about the importance of a good supporting cast, you know,
And I started thinking which athlete benefits the most from
a great supporting cast and which athlete is hurt the
most by a bad supporting cast? Right, And so I'll
give you my selections. You tell me if you think
I'm a crazy person or not. First, I'm going to
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start off with a great supporting cast. The guy I
think who benefits the most from a great supporting cast
is Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurt.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
That was my first, my first, no, kidd, really yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Think about what the guy has around him.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He had Saquon Barkley last year rushed for over two
thousand yards. He's got what most people believe to be
the best offensive line in football. He's got aj Brown,
Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddard to throw to. He had an
outstanding defense that was one of the best in terms
of limiting points scored by the other team. He has
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a who's supporting cast around him. The Eagles were twenty
ninth in average pass yards per game last season.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, and I think if you put Jalen Hurts this
is in the dog him out. I think he's good.
I just don't think he's a top five quarterback. These
lists come out and people have him like right outside
of the usual suspects like Mahomes and Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar,
Now it's Jalen Hurts, And I'm like, he is not
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a top five quarterback. Sorry, if you put Jalen Hurts
on the Titans or the Saints right now, he's a
totally different QB.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I think it's fair to say that that most qbs
put in the same situation are bad, but how many
elevate around them, right, And I'm not saying Hurts can't
do that. Again, there's not a knock on Jalen Hurts.
We talk about everyone, but he is the best offense
line of football. This reminds me a lot of And
again I'm I'm hesitant to even mention this because I
but remember when like Dak Preston had the best offense
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line of football, and it's like, oh my god, right,
top five quarterback and then like Dolphins line went away.
It's like, ahh maybe he's ten now, right, And so
it's fair to mention Eagles offense lines fantastic. Sakuon Barkley's great,
They DeVante Smith and and and and A. J. Brown.
The even like even the backups like what's this? Uh
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Kenneth Gainwell was there last year? Yeah? Sure the Super Bowl?
Still can't just you know it was I had that,
I had the right process. Brian just didn't get it home.
Again that that's part of it, right. But also I
think Howie Roseman, I mean, the Eagles gym deserves credit
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for building the roster around Jalen Hurts to make it worked.
A lot of times, you know people or people general
managers can't figure it out, can't figure how to how
to put together. And they put it together. They're young,
they're mostly young on defense, and they spend their money
on offense and it's paid off. Look at what that
that offense is. Well, look at what the team has become,
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like Jaylen Hurts has become. But I will give jayl
Hurts credit because in the Super Bowls he's been fantastic.
Oh he was, But even the one they lost, he
threw for the three fifty four hundred yards. But yes,
I think Hurts benefits the most from the players around him.
But again, I want to make sure that it's not
it's not a knock, it's just the truth. He has
a lot around him. He takes advantage of it really
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really well.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
We got a little bit of a glimpse with Rock
Purdy the last year, right where man the party fanatics,
when when Purdy was really putting up numbers, when he
had the full complement of a strong supporting cast. You
can see when you watch in week to week, you're like, Okay,
he's good. We're not saying he's bad, but he benefits
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more from the supporting cast. Then the supporting cast benefits
from him. And I feel like it's a similar situation
with Jalen Hurts. And you saw a little bit of
it last year when Brock Purdy there are a lot
of injuries to his supporting cast. All of a sudden,
he doesn't have Brandon Nyuk and he's got an injured
Trent Williams and what do you know, his numbers aren't
looking too good, right, Like it makes a difference. And
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so it's if you watch Jalen Hurts week in and
week out, there are times when he makes the wrong read,
makes the wrong decision too often.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
He holds the ball too long? Is when he does
he holds the ball way too long? Does that?
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:50):
That I think is the thing that he's got to
work on the most. I mean, there was a tho.
I don't know if you saw this on the internet,
you probably are on our offensive line internet all the time.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Offensive line Internet.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
There's this whole thing going on where like Lions fans
were upset that that some sacks were credited to pay
so the work credit to Lane Johnson, and they put
out a film like how come Lane wasn't how come
this wasn't a And it's like, well, Hurts have the
ball too long? Every one of them was Hurts holding
the ball too long. That's why it wasn't a sack
on on Lane Johnson. And Hurts has got to work
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on that, right. I mean, like if you were saying, like, Okay,
how do I work on my game of so offseason?
It's that and I'm not saying again it's a detriment
to his entire play, but he's got to be better
at getting rid of the ball and finding the outlets
and finding guys to to to throw the ball to
when it gets a little clustered in the you know,
in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, not saying he's bad. He's good.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
But I'd be lying to you if I said I
think he would be as good with the Saints this year,
you know, Like, No, I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
The athlete that I think is hurt the most by
a horrible supporting cast, I think it's Angel Reese. I
think that who it is. And my argument would be this, Jeff, Like,
Angel Reese is a specialist. Like, let's cut down to it.
What she does is rebound really well, pretty good defender. Offensively,
(25:15):
she's basically Dennis Rodman with a little more offense. That's
really what she is. And so when she's on a
bad Chicago Sky team and they're freaking terrible, Jeff, they
van der Sleute is hurt. They don't have great talent.
It exposes her weaknesses. When she's expected to score a
little bit then more than she's really capable of doing.
(25:37):
It exposes her. It'd be like Rodman played for the
Pistons and the Bulls, and he was surrounded by an
awesome supporting cast, like top shelf supporting cast, and so
he could focus on what he did best, which was
rebounding and play defense. And he was a huge asset
to both of those teams. If Rodman played in a
different era, say played right now and he play for
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the Charlotte Hornets and he needed to score, he'd be
a disaster. That's what angel Reese is. She's a limited player,
and she's a specialist on a good team. She's an
asset on a bad team. She gets exposed. It's like
Draymond Green with the Warriors, is a dude, really valuable?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Ye valuable Steph Curry.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, if Draymond Green is on the Wizards, he's just
a guy.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Yeah. I actually would like to see Angelies play seasons
with a better you know or no, she won't put
the number she does now, but you know her ability
to rebound, and I know people like to say it's
just her rebound, it's not her misshots. It's not. But
to see her on a team that can compliment when
she does well, I think it's going to go really well.
(26:48):
But when she is on a team and the number
one option offensively, that's that's an issue. And I'm not
saying she is every night for the Sky who played
by the Way in like three hours, I know, which
is crazy, but you know, they just you know, at
the end of games, when the games are close and
she's the player you draw out of bounds play for,
(27:10):
it's not gonna it's not gonna work well. And that's
where they're at right now with their team, and they
obviously can get better, they just don't have the talent
right now to do that. So I'm curious to see
when they get there. What does she look like as
a player, because she can look we know she can rebound,
we know she can at times be effective around the basket,
but you can't shoot like forty one and all your
(27:32):
shots are basically within, you know, a couple of feet
of the basket, so and be your number one scoring option.
But as a number two, as a three with the
rebounding and defense, it's it's very it's it's a it
can be successful, but yeah, the worst plus minus for
anyone not uh can And she also leads the league
in turnovers, so I look, I know Clark has more
(27:53):
turnovers than her guys. We don't have to compare them
both of them, you know, per game, but you know,
to be first and turnovers, you're You're not a point guard.
So the first turnover is terrible plus minus. But also
a ton of stats. I mean again, I made this
camp yesterday. Feels very Russell Westbrook. Yeah, where a ton
of stats. You can't argue that they are impactful on
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the court, But are you is it leading to to
wins in the.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
End, No doubt? Yeah, So anybody else come to mind?
That would be my list. The player who benefits the
most from a great supporting cast, I'd say Jalen Hurts.
The player who is hurt or exposed the most by
a week supporting cast.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I think Angel Reese.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Coming to mind. I think Justin Herbert, if just with
better people around him, can be really, really, really good.
He just yeah, I think he's one of those guys.
We just haven't seen it yet, and I'm hopeful with
Harvard that we we see it soon.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Now as far as Justin Cooper's poker tournament, I can't
wait to hear this. So Coop, I don't want to
steal this story. You know, I'll start telling the story.
I'll do the whole thing, but I'll start. I'll start
to give you the cliffs Notes version over here. Right, So,
Coop is in Vegas. He's with this girl, he's married,
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and there's a poker tournament going on in the hotel
he was staying at, and he's like, it's one hundred
and fifty dollars buy in. And he's like, man, I
should I.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Enter this thing?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's only at level three, you know, it just started.
And his wife, being the supportive wife that she is,
she's like, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
What you want to do it, just go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
And then right, so he gets in this thing and
Coop is playing the best poker of his freaking life. Okay,
he's aggressive. It's I bought in for one hundred and fifty.
I'm going to be aggressive. I'm going to bluff a
little bit more at times. If I have a hand,
I'm going to just be aggressive. And so he builds
his chip stack and he finds himself in the final
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three Jeff final three people. He's one of them and
the other two they're like, they're talking about chopping it.
They're like, hey, you know what, what do you think
about chopping this pot instead of playing it all on,
playing it all the way out. And Coop's like, you
know what, I haven't won one of these Vegas tournaments.
I kind of want to go for the win here.
(30:10):
And so the other two were like, all right, let's
do it. So Coop he takes out one of the
three right, takes him as he down on the final two,
and so he's at about a four hundred thousand dollars chipstack.
The other guy's about seven hundred thousand in chipstack. And
(30:30):
so Coop he looks down, he sees his pocket sixes.
He's like, all right, so he raises it. The other
guy goes all in. Jeff Well halls Coop's back, go ahead,
you take it from here.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Coop, I raised it pre flop.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
He just calls me, uh huh.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Then the flop comes out four four five, Then I bet.
Then he raised me all in, yeah, and I call
him snap call, Snap call, and he has nine to five.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So my sixes are good.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
That's the dolly parton by the way.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yes, yes, yes it is. And then and then a
nine on the turn. That's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Jeff my guy, Coop was dominating this dirt bag, dominating
him with.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
His pocket sixes. He had sixes compared to fives.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And this guy with his Dolly parton hand turns a
nine and all of a sudden he's crushing Coop.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That's brutal.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Was this Is this equivalent to like the my Valkyrie's
bet last night? Is that how this feels?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I think this feels way worse. Although the Valkyries that
that was disgusting sports.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Turt like, what was it? What was it? What was
what percent? Were you supposed to win that hand? He
was supposed to win the hand?
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Right? Oh?
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Absolutely, yeah, I don't know the exact percentage. And and
even if I won that hand, I mean I guess
I would have had you know, I would have had
a chip lead, but it's still we still probably would
have been battling heads up for a little while. And
this was a small tournament, one hundred and fifty dollars
buy in, so the difference between first and second place,
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I think he got like an extra I don't know,
maybe the eleven hundred dollars, twelve hundred dollars, but.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
The prestige, Yeah, exactly, you want that win exactly, Well,
you'll put on your mantle. Yeah. Man, So how'd your
whole tournament and how'd your hold your whole Worldters a
Poker tournament?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Go?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
I know you were in a couple of different events.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
Yeah. So my best World Series of Poker event this year.
I did the Gladiators of Poker tournament, which is the
smallest bay In tournament that they have, and it was
three hundred bucks. Twenty four thousand, like three hundred people
entered the tournament.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I've finished in the twenty four thousandth percentile.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Brian.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, I went in that thing, but Coop did way
better than me. Made it to day two. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
I made it to day two and cashed at five
hundred and seventieth place.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Wait, how do I not know that, Brian, that you
left to these tournaments too?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I entered that one. That was the only one I did.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Coop talked me into it because he was like, I'm
on to day two and I'm like, wait a minute.
They had various day ones, right, so I'm like, theoretically,
if I survived day one as well, we could find
ourselves at the same day two table and we could
like lockhorns count me in and I did not get
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to day two.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I come close the day too, Jeff.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Interesting, I'm not at all poker players. I love hearing
the story, my buddy. I think it's like, dude, like,
let's go play.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I don't know what, oh man, love playing cards. I
was an idiot, though. You learn so fast in these
tournaments because I just made a simple mistake my head.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I'll go quick because.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You know, I'm want to give you intimate details, and
it drags on. But I had ace jack and I
flopped an ace, and I just I bet a mediocre
you know, like it was just twelve hundred in chipstack.
This is not actual money. Some people think this is
actual money. It's your chip stack. So I bet twelve
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hundred dollars in chips and the guy called me so
I and then after the turn it was nothing. It
was like a three or something random, and so I
bet another twelve hundred. That was my mistake, Jeff. I
let him see the river card. And so this guy
he ended up with queens and sevens. He rivered a seven,
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so he had two pair and my aces were no good.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Yeah, you should have gone with a bigger, a bigger.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, bigger raised bigger raised after the turn. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
you can't let him see that extra card, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Interesting, Yeah, I have not played colleges. Went like right
when Rods is a poker, it became like a you know,
it was huge, and so we plat a ton in
college and I just was was very very bad, really
very quickly. It wasn't one of my things. Yeah, I'll
just you know again, I'll just skip have I mean, yeah,
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I've got the point too, where you know, I do
so much of sports wagering that I don't even know
if I like like table games anymore. Like I'd rather
lose my bet on the Valkyries than lose money. Like
when someone rolls a seven, you know, it's yeah, sure,
I'm like, at least I get some handicapping. I thought
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I was on the right side rolling a seven. You're like, oh,
you know.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It's funny. I don't understand myself.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I need to be more like I am in sports
betting the way I am with playing cards. Because when
that guy rivered a seven, I didn't like lose my mind.
I wasn't angry. I was just mad at myself, like
I was stupid. That was it, Like, no, angry reaction.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Nothing. It's totally cool.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
But if Chet Holmgren is a free throw at the
end of the first quarter in Game seven and I
lose my first quarter, bet, I am incensed. Jeff, I'm
a maniac, and you're you can't live like that. You
just can't go about it like that.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I think it's interesting, right, Like I feel the same
way about like I yeah, yeah, chats jeez, I that
guy I know money on Chet here this postseason?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
All right, Hey, coming up next, we're gonna have a
little bit of fun with copyright lawsuits. I've got some
championship audio for you, Okay, So we're gonna have some
fun with that.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
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Speaker 1 (37:22):
All right, So it's time to pay this off, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
We were talking about lawsuits yesterday, you know, the copyright lawsuits.
Oh man, I love this audio. Okay, so you tell
me if you think something a little shady's going on here.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So this was our man, Ed Sheeran. He was accused
and he was being sued, right. Some were alleging our guy,
Sammy Switch. He was alleging that Ed Sheeran ripped off
some of his music. Okay, so you tell me if
you think Sammy Switch has a leg to stand on.
Here this is the part that Sammy thought was ripped off.
(37:58):
All right, check this out. Okay, just a little why
oh why? I think this was Ed Sheeran. You think
this is a ripoff?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It's pretty similar to me, don't.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
I think that the beats a little different.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
But yeah, it's yeah, yeah, yeah, you said it right.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
So the funny part of this was Ed Sheeran and
his co writers. They denied copying the song, and they
claimed that the similarities were coincidental, total coincidence, right, and
this is the best part. They argued that Ed Sheeran
had not heard Oh Why before writing Shape of You.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I mean, how can you argue with that? He just
said you didn't hear that song? How can he copy
a song he's never heard before?
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Of course you can't know.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And the judge went for it. The judge like, you know,
why would Ed lie about that? I'm a I'm gonna
rule an Ed's favor over you.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
It's so hard to win those copyright lawsuits. Music like music,
obviously samples. I mean everyone samples off each other. Everyone
makes their own, their own, their own, you know everyone.
There's very very few that you know, don't sound for anyone.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
This one, this is the best one. So this is
our girl, Dua lipa. All right, you've heard this song
many times. Get a little taste, a little feel for it. Okay,
Now this is from article sound system like a reggae band.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
It's the same exact song. I've heard this.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, listen, listen to this, dude, come.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Except the reggae band did not have the baby on those.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
That's truth, they did not have that. This is my favorite.
Somebody put both songs together. They sped up the article
sound System song. But listen to this like when they're
played on top of each other. Unbelievable, right, that's crazy.
(40:30):
I did a little sample of myself where I put
Slayer and a VICI at the same time. You know,
we'll get to that around the corner here to love
that audio. Also, do you blame this team at all?
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Happy uh Tuesday to you as we fill in again,
very happy to be here. You know what's funny, Jeff,
is that sometimes negativity in your life is a horrible thing.
You know, if you if you got someone that's just
negative all the time, it's a lot to deal with.
It can bring you down the whole thing. The sports
(00:21):
world can be completely different at times. And I would
point to the Kansas City Chiefs. So Patrick Mahomes, he
was a guest on up in Adams with Kay Adams.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I believe it was yesterday sometimes really yeah, it was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes, yeah, And he was talking about his approach to
this season. So he's asked the question. Listen to what
Mahomes says here, check it out.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I'm seeing the terms revenge tour. I've actually said that one.
I've seen scorched earth. Can you frame what your mentality
is so I know how to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
You know, I'm honestly just ready to play football. Whenever
you lose, you kind of have this taste of your
mouth that you want to go out there and revenge
that or whatever you want to say. But at the
same time, I feel like I've had to sit back
and just listen to people talk and talk, and I'm like,
let's just play football and just handle it all out there.
And I don't really want to talk about it. I
was gonna go out and show who we are as
a Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So to me, the first part of that is certainly
there's a bitter taste after getting smacked in the Super
Bowl against the Eagles. So that's the obvious part. But
the other part here that really stands out is what
he said, you got to sit there and listen to
all these people talk and talk and talk and talk.
Is it Emmanuel Lacco who threw it out there like, hey,
(01:35):
is this the beginning of the decade long Super Bowl
drought for Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And sometimes it's far worse than that.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's far more critical after they looked as bad as
they did.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's you hear all.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
This talk, and I just I am not willing to
sell my chief stock. If anything, it makes me want
to buy more because I can buy a little bit lower.
Right now, Jeff, I think they're gonna be a pain
in the rectum this year, man, I think they're gonna
be much better. Like you look they're wide receivers. That
was the other SoundBite. I'll get that to you in
(02:09):
a little bit. But you look how deep they are
with their wide receivers. Rashie Rice is back and Hollywood
Brown is back. Just those two guys being healthy is
huge for the Chiefs. And I think getting smacked in
the Super Bowl and having to hear all the talk
and all the doubts, I think it's going to make
them that much more dangerous this season.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
So we are a sports viewing culture that's very reaction
into the last thing we saw, right, it makes sense.
We were humans, right, The last thing we saw was
an uncompetitive Chiefs team in the Super Bowl. And it's
very unlike the Chiefs. Right. They are there, if anything,
very you know, very predictable, and that they're going to
(02:53):
play close games for the most part, right, and they
do things like they just sort of the one thing
they do that that was under talked about it I
talk about it, you know, is that they just don't
they sort of don't lose games. The other teams lose games, right,
And they just got smacked around. And the last time,
by the way, they got smacked around was the Tanna
based Super Bowl. And they came back the next year
(03:13):
with a vengeance again. Right there you go. So I
think people haven't really done a deep dive on the
roster and you have, I have, and it's a very
good roster. Still, they didn't lose that game because they're
I think that much worse than Philly. I think a
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couple of factors were there. They weren't as good as Philly,
and then I don't think they realized how good Phillies
off of the defensive lines were. It looked like a
game where it's like, oh, yeah, we'll just do what
we do and they're like, oh boy, like we got
plunge in the mouth and just weren't ready for what
Philly brought. Philly was ready to play that game, like
you know, like they just were a different They played
different speed, different physicality. If the Chiefs were to play
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now that they would understand what was coming for them.
But you mentioned wide receiver right to start last year,
Mahomes had obviously Rachie Rice Okay, rookie Xavier Worthy, and
Travis Kelsey is sort of the main three guys right
because Hollywood Brown was supposed to be the other guy
who got hurt in the preseason. Unfortunately jury in the preseason.
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They went to the last year with Travis Kelcey not
being the first option. It was Rachie Rice said, thirty
catches over the first three weeks. Then then right he
got hurt and now you're looking at injured Rachie Rice.
Right old Travis kelce who's not supposed to be your
number one, and work Exavier Worthy. That's kind of tough sledding, right. Yeah.
Four left tackles played last season for them, including Joe
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Tootey and moved from guard to tackle to help him out.
So this year the enter training camp very healthy. You
mentioned wide receiver. I don't have to want to play
that clip of Mahomes if it works now for you
or not. Yes, but it's Rachie Rice's aver Worthy year
two and it's Hollywood Brown now healthy as can be. Plus,
I think they like their draft pick from a Utah state.
(05:04):
I believe it was right. Yeah, yeah, so's it's just
a much healthier offense. Offensive line they've made a lot
of changes, should be better this season. So offensively they're
gonna be better. And you know they've heard all the
stuff and almosts can't throw deep anymore. Kye, Mahomes can't
do this. Moms can't do that. If teams and athletes
tell you they don't read that stuff, they might not
(05:28):
read it personally, it gets sent to them. They see
all of it. In an NFL building, there's a guy
who's in charge basically printing off all the articles and
giving them to the head coach. You can see them like,
there's guy Mahomes sees everything. His His trainer is very
famously very online, but he said he notices these things.
(05:49):
So the Chiefs have seen it. They know how to win,
they know how to prepare. Their division number is minus
one twenty right now with the division, Brian, it's insanely low. So, Buddy,
I'm a Chiefs fan, of course, but I'm still in
on the Chiefs. No one could beat them in the AFC,
like until Baltimore or Buffalo show they can do it.
You got to think Kansas City is right back where
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they always are.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, And the stat that you're talking about, the Chiefs
were twenty seventh in passing plays of twenty yards or
more downfield last season, twenty seventh twenty plus yards downfield.
But you have to look at the why you don't
just look at that and be like, oh wow, they're
not what they once were. It's a no, no, no no.
Why was that? And what's different about that? Why that
(06:35):
was is what you pointed out. They had a bunch
of wide receiver injuries. That was a big part of it.
And then also the offensive line, like when you've got
a turnstyle like at left tackle, it's just like, you know,
left tackle by.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Committee, that's not great.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And so you consistently didn't have enough time to throw
the ball downfield to Xavier Worthies, the one guy after
the injuries who's really putting pressure on defenses downfield.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So what's different about that?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Now you mentioned it, all these dudes are back healthy again,
all of a sudden, the offensive line looks to be
a little bit stronger. They got Jalen Moore over there
from San Francisco, and they drafted Josh Simmons out of
Ohio State. And it's in Jason Kelcey, fine offensive linemen
retired now, right, But he had some really high praise
(07:25):
for Josh Simmons. So he's on his podcast with Travis
Kelcey and he said, you see this, Jeff compared him
to Trent Williams.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yeah, I think Kelsey sort of knew in the in
the media thing, right, huh. I think sometimes I was
this way where like you just start saying superlatives and
like it's.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Like running downhill and you're like, you know, like.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
When you start doing you sort of knew, Like I
just no, I know. Okay. I think that's very high
praise for a young fellow who hasn't played, uh in
the NFL yet. I'm also I'll just say this, I
am allergic okay too, Like I break out in hives
if I compare players to the best of the league,
(08:11):
like it like young young players, Like it really frustrates
me how we go like like in the draft, right
every year you're like like fast little wide receiver next
Tyreek Hill, I'm like, or like undersized dtackle guys next
Aaron Donald. I'm like, oh, I break out of hives. Yeah.
Like it just feels like, like I know, the player
(08:32):
calm thing is big business. But Trent Williams is a
Hall of Famer. I feel like that's a little early
to compare Josh Shimmons, who's yeah, tape didn't really He's
not Williams. He can be I guess one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Day, right, he's not.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's hard for you to buy it right now. For
the people I didn't see it. This is what Jason
Kelsey said about Josh Simmons. So Josh Simmons thirty second
overall pick, first round pick of the Chiefs, and Jason
Kell's he said, I've watched a lot of these linemen
coming out the last few years. This kid, I mean,
he's the closest thing I've seen to a Trent Williams,
like the next level strength and athleticism. The only reason
(09:10):
he fell to you, guys is because of that that injury,
the teller tendon injury. That's Trent Williams with the Niners
right fifteen seasons, eleven Pro Bowls. He was named All
Pro three times. He's pretty much the gold standard of
a left tackle in the NFL right now. He's one
(09:31):
of the guys on the short list that are still
at the top.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Of the game.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And man, when you haven't played a down, I don't
go as far as you do, Jeff. I look at
it more stylistically, like, are you do you play a
similar style.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
To like No one plays a similar style to to
Trent Williams, Like that's that's also part of it as
Well's own style. He is, he's you would never accuse
him of being like the best technician like he's just
is and he's his own style. And so that's why
also comparing him, you know, feel feels tough at times.
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I look Simmons if he was healthy would have been
often tackle number one like man's down.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Speaking about Trent Williams quickly. There's a new award called
the Protector of the Year Award, and Trent Williams is
I believe the third best odds, it's Pine Soul, Lane
Johnson and Trent Williams. I have wager on Trent Williams
to win this award. I wagered Lane Johnson to win
this award, and I wagered Creede Humphrey to win this award.
(10:35):
If you're feeling like you would like to get in
on this action, those are three guys I have picked
to win the award. If I need to add Penny
Soul later I will, But those are the three guys
I feel comfortable with right now. Trent Williams at you
know nine to one, who made three all pros in
a row before he got hurt last season, feels like
a good bet to make.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, it seems like decent value, especially when he was
That helps him this year too, if you're looking at
the betting market, he was banged up so much. So
if he comes back this year and plays well and
it's healthy throughout most of the season, and the Niners
have this cake schedule and end up with a bunch
of wins, right Like, there's a lot going for you
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to back Trent Williams out there.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Oh yeah, we'll pay it off real fast.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
This was the audio of Mahomes talking about the weapons
he has to throw to check this out.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You want fifteen games with a banged up team, not
your number one wide receiver, a full compliment in that
receiver room. What are you most excited about outside of
hopefully health.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I think it's just gonna be. It's gonna come from everywhere.
I mean, obviously you got Rashibi and back, he looks great,
if Xavier Worthy who came on so strong at the
end of last year, you have Hollywood Brown healthy again,
guys everywhere you had in Travis Kelcey a Hall of Famer,
and Noah Great a great tight end, and everybody that
we've added to all those different rooms where we have
so many weapons. Let's go out there and just maximize
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it all. It's not gonna be just one person. It's
gonna be the entire offense going out there in showcase.
What the Chakansas City Chiefs truly are.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know what's interesting too, Jeff, is like you watched
the Chiefs last year and you're like, how are they
doing this? They're doing it with smoking mirrors and they're
still winning games, but it doesn't look like the Chiefs.
They don't look dominant, and the injuries had a lot
to do with it. And look, they could get injured
again this season. It's football. But if they're blessed with
better health, they're certainly gonna be blessed with better health
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at the beginning of the season. That's gonna make a
huge difference. And beyond the wide receivers and tight ends
and weapons to throw to, Isaiah Pacheco being back when
he's healthy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He gives them a lot of juice.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And he missed most of the season due to injury
and he wasn't close to the same when he came back.
Think think about Saquon Barkley and the pressure he took
off of Jalen Hurts like Mahomes didn't have.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Kareem Hunt played pretty well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But it's not the same as having this younger Isaiah
Pachecko who just runs violently when he's at full strength.
That's a big asset to the Chiefs offense that they
didn't have throughout most of the last season.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
He's back to his normal self. That's that's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Also, drafted a running back of the seventh round who
they really like, who's very explosive, cause they need to
get a little explosive at that position, and and that
that he provides that to them as well. Look, I
mentioned this earlier and it's worth I think exploring here,
Like there is a quality to not losing games in sports,
and you know, college sports definitely feels this way more
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than the NFL, but you know, or more than the
pro sports. But you know, college sports a lot of
times teams lose games rather than win games. Right, we
saw all the time, and we saw in college baseball
most recently where Arkansas just like imploded the final ending,
like LSU hit zero hard baseballs and one in the
like Archanitels just imploded. Happens all the time. In college
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or happens to the NFL too. How often do you
watch the NFL games and a quarterback does something You're
just like, what are you? What are you doing, buddy.
The one of the Chiefs qualities that they have is
they don't make mistakes that cost them games. They don't
have bad turnovers. They you know, Jowan Taylor gets penalized
their right tackle, but for the most part, they don't
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have crippling penalties. Right Other teams have those penalties. Other
teams turn the ball over, other teams do really silly things.
The Chiefs, Brian, don't do that. And that's a testament
to the coaching staff, to the players. They just don't
make a lot of mistakes at the end of games.
That's why they win those games. It's not because to
your point last year, they're more talented. It's third and
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three to win the game. They execute on third and three.
Other teams, the forty nine ers in Super Bowl just
don't block Chris Jones. You know, that's the difference in
winning and losing. And the Chiefs have that quality about them.
The Patriots for so I mean times, the Patriots for years.
We talked about that with the Patriots, and so that
is something that you can't quantify, like there's no numbers
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for that, right, there's no like, there's no thing you
put on paper. But here's the Chiefs clutch time winning
stats and the NFL. But that is why they're so good.
And if you add back in a little bit of
talent which they have on offense, which anything defensively they're
fine with talent, it makes them a very dangerous team.
And yeah, they have a tough schedule every year, So
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it's no different this year than than last year the
year before that. People point their schedule say, oh their schedule,
it's hard every year. Yet the first place schedule. So
either going to be fine this year. Again, I've wagered
them to win the division and I think Mahomes will
be an MVP discussion this year. Like legitimately, I think
he's gonna have a really good season.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, makes sense. That's the thing is they hardly ever
beat themselves. And that's what was so shocking about the
Super Bowl, where the first half is Mahomes making silly decisions,
you know, throwing in a couple of interceptions, pressing like
stupid penalties. They really shot themselves in the foot time
and time again, which was so uncharacteristic, and so it
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sounds like I'm disagreeing with you.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I'm really not.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It's that I think a lot of people have forgotten
about how they routinely do not beat themselves. Because they
did it on the biggest stage. They certainly assisted the
Eagles in beating them, and that's why sometimes you just
forget about that. I think a lot of people are
forgetting about that they have the ingredients to win so
many games because they typically don't beat themselves and they're healthier.
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So yeah, I'm buying the Chiefs this year.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
I think people also want them to like, you know,
people don't like that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They're tired of them.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
They want them to lose, but they've been in the.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Super Bowl five of the last six years. Like they're
tired of the Chiefs. They want new blood in there,
no doubt.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
But I do think Brian, this is the last year
with Kelsey, and I don't know if all ends the
right term, but I feel like they know that this
is the team will look different next season, sure, and
they need to maximize the last year of Kelsey. Chris
Jones is getting older, like you know, there's some guys
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that are getting up in age, and so this is
the year to sort of do everything. And so I
think there's that mindset. I'm not sure they will vocalize this,
but everyone sort of knows, like this is it for
Kelsey right, yes, for Chris Jones, but getting older and
they need to capitalize on those players. It's still in
their in their prime yea. And so they'll have that
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mindset this season.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, I'm with you all right.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Coming up next, which athlete is hurt the most by
a horrible supporting cast and which athlete benefits the most
from a great supporting cast. That's on the way. He's
Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now we're in for Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe.
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Speaker 2 (18:30):
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Speaker 8 (18:34):
No.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
We're in for two pros and a cup of Joe.
You know it's funny, Jeff, you texted me a couple
of numbers about Angel Reese yesterday and they're not They're
not great. They're that great. This one really caught my attention.
Is this really the case Angel Reese has the worst
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plus minus of any player who isn't on the Sun.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Wow, that is a stat right there, man.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I believe the uh I believe I can look it
up right now that the starting five of the Son
have the worst plus mind, is no surprise that they
are all on AJL. Reese's second.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Wow. Interesting.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, I mean, well, not second, I mean she's sixth,
but six to worst. But first for the for a
non Connecticut son, I've not checked after last night. I
don't I mean, I don't know why last night would matter.
They didn't play, but yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So I started thinking about that, and I was thinking
about the importance of a good supporting cast, you know,
And I started thinking which athlete benefits the most from
a great supporting cast and which athlete is hurt the
most by a bad supporting cast? Right, And so I'll
give you my selections. You tell me if you think
I'm a crazy person or not. First, I'm going to
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start off with a great supporting cast. The guy I
think who benefits the most from a great supporting cast
is Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurt.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
That was my first, my first, no, kidd, really yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Think about what the guy has around him.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He had Saquon Barkley last year rushed for over two
thousand yards. He's got what most people believe to be
the best offensive line in football. He's got aj Brown,
Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddard to throw to. He had an
outstanding defense that was one of the best in terms
of limiting points scored by the other team. He has
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a who's supporting cast around him. The Eagles were twenty
ninth in average pass yards per game last season.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, and I think if you put Jalen Hurts this
is in the dog him out. I think he's good.
I just don't think he's a top five quarterback. These
lists come out and people have him like right outside
of the usual suspects like Mahomes and Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar,
Now it's Jalen Hurts, And I'm like, he is not
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a top five quarterback. Sorry, if you put Jalen Hurts
on the Titans or the Saints right now, he's a
totally different QB.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I think it's fair to say that that most qbs
put in the same situation are bad, but how many
elevate around them, right, And I'm not saying Hurts can't
do that. Again, there's not a knock on Jalen Hurts.
We talk about everyone, but he is the best offense
line of football. This reminds me a lot of And
again I'm I'm hesitant to even mention this because I
but remember when like Dak Preston had the best offense
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line of football, and it's like, oh my god, right,
top five quarterback and then like Dolphins line went away.
It's like, ahh maybe he's ten now, right, And so
it's fair to mention Eagles offense lines fantastic. Sakuon Barkley's great,
They DeVante Smith and and and and A. J. Brown.
The even like even the backups like what's this? Uh
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Kenneth Gainwell was there last year? Yeah? Sure the Super Bowl?
Still can't just you know it was I had that,
I had the right process. Brian just didn't get it home.
Again that that's part of it, right. But also I
think Howie Roseman, I mean, the Eagles gym deserves credit
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for building the roster around Jalen Hurts to make it worked.
A lot of times, you know people or people general
managers can't figure it out, can't figure how to how
to put together. And they put it together. They're young,
they're mostly young on defense, and they spend their money
on offense and it's paid off. Look at what that
that offense is. Well, look at what the team has become,
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like Jaylen Hurts has become. But I will give jayl
Hurts credit because in the Super Bowls he's been fantastic.
Oh he was, But even the one they lost, he
threw for the three fifty four hundred yards. But yes,
I think Hurts benefits the most from the players around him.
But again, I want to make sure that it's not
it's not a knock, it's just the truth. He has
a lot around him. He takes advantage of it really
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really well.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
We got a little bit of a glimpse with Rock
Purdy the last year, right where man the party fanatics,
when when Purdy was really putting up numbers, when he
had the full complement of a strong supporting cast. You
can see when you watch in week to week, you're like, Okay,
he's good. We're not saying he's bad, but he benefits
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more from the supporting cast. Then the supporting cast benefits
from him. And I feel like it's a similar situation
with Jalen Hurts. And you saw a little bit of
it last year when Brock Purdy there are a lot
of injuries to his supporting cast. All of a sudden,
he doesn't have Brandon Nyuk and he's got an injured
Trent Williams and what do you know, his numbers aren't
looking too good, right, Like it makes a difference. And
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so it's if you watch Jalen Hurts week in and
week out, there are times when he makes the wrong read,
makes the wrong decision too often.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
He holds the ball too long? Is when he does
he holds the ball way too long? Does that?
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:50):
That I think is the thing that he's got to
work on the most. I mean, there was a tho.
I don't know if you saw this on the internet,
you probably are on our offensive line internet all the time.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Offensive line Internet.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
There's this whole thing going on where like Lions fans
were upset that that some sacks were credited to pay
so the work credit to Lane Johnson, and they put
out a film like how come Lane wasn't how come
this wasn't a And it's like, well, Hurts have the
ball too long? Every one of them was Hurts holding
the ball too long. That's why it wasn't a sack
on on Lane Johnson. And Hurts has got to work
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on that, right. I mean, like if you were saying, like, Okay,
how do I work on my game of so offseason?
It's that and I'm not saying again it's a detriment
to his entire play, but he's got to be better
at getting rid of the ball and finding the outlets
and finding guys to to to throw the ball to
when it gets a little clustered in the you know,
in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, not saying he's bad. He's good.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
But I'd be lying to you if I said I
think he would be as good with the Saints this year,
you know, Like, No, I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
The athlete that I think is hurt the most by
a horrible supporting cast, I think it's Angel Reese. I
think that who it is. And my argument would be this, Jeff, Like,
Angel Reese is a specialist. Like, let's cut down to it.
What she does is rebound really well, pretty good defender. Offensively,
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she's basically Dennis Rodman with a little more offense. That's
really what she is. And so when she's on a
bad Chicago Sky team and they're freaking terrible, Jeff, they
van der Sleute is hurt. They don't have great talent.
It exposes her weaknesses. When she's expected to score a
little bit then more than she's really capable of doing.
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It exposes her. It'd be like Rodman played for the
Pistons and the Bulls, and he was surrounded by an
awesome supporting cast, like top shelf supporting cast, and so
he could focus on what he did best, which was
rebounding and play defense. And he was a huge asset
to both of those teams. If Rodman played in a
different era, say played right now and he play for
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the Charlotte Hornets and he needed to score, he'd be
a disaster. That's what angel Reese is. She's a limited player,
and she's a specialist on a good team. She's an
asset on a bad team. She gets exposed. It's like
Draymond Green with the Warriors, is a dude, really valuable?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Ye valuable Steph Curry.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, if Draymond Green is on the Wizards, he's just
a guy.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Yeah. I actually would like to see Angelies play seasons
with a better you know or no, she won't put
the number she does now, but you know her ability
to rebound, and I know people like to say it's
just her rebound, it's not her misshots. It's not. But
to see her on a team that can compliment when
she does well, I think it's going to go really well.
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But when she is on a team and the number
one option offensively, that's that's an issue. And I'm not
saying she is every night for the Sky who played
by the Way in like three hours, I know, which
is crazy, but you know, they just you know, at
the end of games, when the games are close and
she's the player you draw out of bounds play for,
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it's not gonna it's not gonna work well. And that's
where they're at right now with their team, and they
obviously can get better, they just don't have the talent
right now to do that. So I'm curious to see
when they get there. What does she look like as
a player, because she can look we know she can rebound,
we know she can at times be effective around the basket,
but you can't shoot like forty one and all your
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shots are basically within, you know, a couple of feet
of the basket, so and be your number one scoring option.
But as a number two, as a three with the
rebounding and defense, it's it's very it's it's a it
can be successful, but yeah, the worst plus minus for
anyone not uh can And she also leads the league
in turnovers, so I look, I know Clark has more
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turnovers than her guys. We don't have to compare them
both of them, you know, per game, but you know,
to be first and turnovers, you're You're not a point guard.
So the first turnover is terrible plus minus. But also
a ton of stats. I mean again, I made this
camp yesterday. Feels very Russell Westbrook. Yeah, where a ton
of stats. You can't argue that they are impactful on
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the court, But are you is it leading to to
wins in the.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
End, No doubt? Yeah, So anybody else come to mind?
That would be my list. The player who benefits the
most from a great supporting cast, I'd say Jalen Hurts.
The player who is hurt or exposed the most by
a week supporting cast.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I think Angel Reese.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Coming to mind. I think Justin Herbert, if just with
better people around him, can be really, really, really good.
He just yeah, I think he's one of those guys.
We just haven't seen it yet, and I'm hopeful with
Harvard that we we see it soon.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Now as far as Justin Cooper's poker tournament, I can't
wait to hear this. So Coop, I don't want to
steal this story. You know, I'll start telling the story.
I'll do the whole thing, but I'll start. I'll start
to give you the cliffs Notes version over here. Right, So,
Coop is in Vegas. He's with this girl, he's married,
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and there's a poker tournament going on in the hotel
he was staying at, and he's like, it's one hundred
and fifty dollars buy in. And he's like, man, I
should I.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Enter this thing?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's only at level three, you know, it just started.
And his wife, being the supportive wife that she is,
she's like, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
What you want to do it, just go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
And then right, so he gets in this thing and
Coop is playing the best poker of his freaking life. Okay,
he's aggressive. It's I bought in for one hundred and fifty.
I'm going to be aggressive. I'm going to bluff a
little bit more at times. If I have a hand,
I'm going to just be aggressive. And so he builds
his chip stack and he finds himself in the final
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three Jeff final three people. He's one of them and
the other two they're like, they're talking about chopping it.
They're like, hey, you know what, what do you think
about chopping this pot instead of playing it all on,
playing it all the way out. And Coop's like, you
know what, I haven't won one of these Vegas tournaments.
I kind of want to go for the win here.
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And so the other two were like, all right, let's
do it. So Coop he takes out one of the
three right, takes him as he down on the final two,
and so he's at about a four hundred thousand dollars chipstack.
The other guy's about seven hundred thousand in chipstack. And
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so Coop he looks down, he sees his pocket sixes.
He's like, all right, so he raises it. The other
guy goes all in. Jeff Well halls Coop's back, go ahead,
you take it from here.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Coop, I raised it pre flop.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
He just calls me, uh huh.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Then the flop comes out four four five, Then I bet.
Then he raised me all in, yeah, and I call
him snap call, Snap call, and he has nine to five.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So my sixes are good.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
That's the dolly parton by the way.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yes, yes, yes it is. And then and then a
nine on the turn. That's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Jeff my guy, Coop was dominating this dirt bag, dominating
him with.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
His pocket sixes. He had sixes compared to fives.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And this guy with his Dolly parton hand turns a
nine and all of a sudden he's crushing Coop.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That's brutal.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Was this Is this equivalent to like the my Valkyrie's
bet last night? Is that how this feels?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I think this feels way worse. Although the Valkyries that
that was disgusting sports.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Turt like, what was it? What was it? What was
what percent? Were you supposed to win that hand? He
was supposed to win the hand?
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Right? Oh?
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Absolutely, yeah, I don't know the exact percentage. And and
even if I won that hand, I mean I guess
I would have had you know, I would have had
a chip lead, but it's still we still probably would
have been battling heads up for a little while. And
this was a small tournament, one hundred and fifty dollars
buy in, so the difference between first and second place,
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I think he got like an extra I don't know,
maybe the eleven hundred dollars, twelve hundred dollars, but.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
The prestige, Yeah, exactly, you want that win exactly, Well,
you'll put on your mantle. Yeah. Man, So how'd your
whole tournament and how'd your hold your whole Worldters a
Poker tournament?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Go?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
I know you were in a couple of different events.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
Yeah. So my best World Series of Poker event this year.
I did the Gladiators of Poker tournament, which is the
smallest bay In tournament that they have, and it was
three hundred bucks. Twenty four thousand, like three hundred people
entered the tournament.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I've finished in the twenty four thousandth percentile.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Brian.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, I went in that thing, but Coop did way
better than me. Made it to day two. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
I made it to day two and cashed at five
hundred and seventieth place.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Wait, how do I not know that, Brian, that you
left to these tournaments too?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I entered that one. That was the only one I did.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Coop talked me into it because he was like, I'm
on to day two and I'm like, wait a minute.
They had various day ones, right, so I'm like, theoretically,
if I survived day one as well, we could find
ourselves at the same day two table and we could
like lockhorns count me in and I did not get
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to day two.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I come close the day too, Jeff.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Interesting, I'm not at all poker players. I love hearing
the story, my buddy. I think it's like, dude, like,
let's go play.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I don't know what, oh man, love playing cards. I
was an idiot, though. You learn so fast in these
tournaments because I just made a simple mistake my head.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I'll go quick because.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You know, I'm want to give you intimate details, and
it drags on. But I had ace jack and I
flopped an ace, and I just I bet a mediocre
you know, like it was just twelve hundred in chipstack.
This is not actual money. Some people think this is
actual money. It's your chip stack. So I bet twelve
(34:15):
hundred dollars in chips and the guy called me so
I and then after the turn it was nothing. It
was like a three or something random, and so I
bet another twelve hundred. That was my mistake, Jeff. I
let him see the river card. And so this guy
he ended up with queens and sevens. He rivered a seven,
(34:38):
so he had two pair and my aces were no good.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Yeah, you should have gone with a bigger, a bigger.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, bigger raised bigger raised after the turn. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
you can't let him see that extra card, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Interesting, Yeah, I have not played colleges. Went like right
when Rods is a poker, it became like a you know,
it was huge, and so we plat a ton in
college and I just was was very very bad, really
very quickly. It wasn't one of my things. Yeah, I'll
just you know again, I'll just skip have I mean, yeah,
(35:15):
I've got the point too, where you know, I do
so much of sports wagering that I don't even know
if I like like table games anymore. Like I'd rather
lose my bet on the Valkyries than lose money. Like
when someone rolls a seven, you know, it's yeah, sure,
I'm like, at least I get some handicapping. I thought
(35:38):
I was on the right side rolling a seven. You're like, oh,
you know.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It's funny. I don't understand myself.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I need to be more like I am in sports
betting the way I am with playing cards. Because when
that guy rivered a seven, I didn't like lose my mind.
I wasn't angry. I was just mad at myself, like
I was stupid. That was it, Like, no, angry reaction.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Nothing. It's totally cool.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
But if Chet Holmgren is a free throw at the
end of the first quarter in Game seven and I
lose my first quarter, bet, I am incensed. Jeff, I'm
a maniac, and you're you can't live like that. You
just can't go about it like that.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I think it's interesting, right, Like I feel the same
way about like I yeah, yeah, chats jeez, I that
guy I know money on Chet here this postseason?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
All right, Hey, coming up next, we're gonna have a
little bit of fun with copyright lawsuits. I've got some
championship audio for you, Okay, So we're gonna have some
fun with that.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Coming up.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No. We're in for two
probes and a cup of Joe right here on Fox
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Speaker 1 (37:22):
All right, So it's time to pay this off, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
We were talking about lawsuits yesterday, you know, the copyright lawsuits.
Oh man, I love this audio. Okay, so you tell
me if you think something a little shady's going on here.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So this was our man, Ed Sheeran. He was accused
and he was being sued, right. Some were alleging our guy,
Sammy Switch. He was alleging that Ed Sheeran ripped off
some of his music. Okay, so you tell me if
you think Sammy Switch has a leg to stand on.
Here this is the part that Sammy thought was ripped off.
(37:58):
All right, check this out. Okay, just a little why
oh why? I think this was Ed Sheeran. You think
this is a ripoff?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It's pretty similar to me, don't.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
I think that the beats a little different.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
But yeah, it's yeah, yeah, yeah, you said it right.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
So the funny part of this was Ed Sheeran and
his co writers. They denied copying the song, and they
claimed that the similarities were coincidental, total coincidence, right, and
this is the best part. They argued that Ed Sheeran
had not heard Oh Why before writing Shape of You.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I mean, how can you argue with that? He just
said you didn't hear that song? How can he copy
a song he's never heard before?
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Of course you can't know.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And the judge went for it. The judge like, you know,
why would Ed lie about that? I'm a I'm gonna
rule an Ed's favor over you.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
It's so hard to win those copyright lawsuits. Music like music,
obviously samples. I mean everyone samples off each other. Everyone
makes their own, their own, their own, you know everyone.
There's very very few that you know, don't sound for anyone.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
This one, this is the best one. So this is
our girl, Dua lipa. All right, you've heard this song
many times. Get a little taste, a little feel for it. Okay,
Now this is from article sound system like a reggae band.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
It's the same exact song. I've heard this.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, listen, listen to this, dude, come.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Except the reggae band did not have the baby on those.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
That's truth, they did not have that. This is my favorite.
Somebody put both songs together. They sped up the article
sound System song. But listen to this like when they're
played on top of each other. Unbelievable, right, that's crazy.
(40:30):
I did a little sample of myself where I put
Slayer and a VICI at the same time. You know,
we'll get to that around the corner here to love
that audio. Also, do you blame this team at all?
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