May 26, 2025 • 40 mins
The guys talk about the NFL voting to allow its players to participate in Olympic flag football and what that means for current flag football players, for the game of football in general, and much more. Also, is SGA overrated?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The New York Knicks have at least kept themselves alive
in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We have a series.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It looked a few days ago like all of our
final series were going to be a joke and then
we were going to end up with a couple of
quick ones.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But instead, now.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
As we sit here on Memorial Day, we have two
series that are sitting at two to one and a
reminder of how different twenty four hours can make a
playoff series. Look, he's Buck rising up, Jason Fitzwer hanging
out with you on Fox Sports Radio. We get to
flag football in just a second. Some important information there
that I think everybody will be interested in. But Buck,
there is a level of calm for Knicks fans today.
(00:37):
I think after you lose the first two in the garden,
you have to acknowledge it. But I will also say this,
as much as we expect the teams that are up
to nothing to take a bunch of haymakers in the beginning,
like we expected Minnesota would come out with the thunder
the gods, they did, we expected that the Knicks would
come out with the backs against the wall, and frankly,
I mean they did. Even though it looked like this
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game was going to be ea easy Indiana win. I
would argue that game four, when you're at two to one,
is the time that you get the best from everybody,
Like you talk about the hate. Like, if you're Indiana,
you know you can't go back to the garden tied
to You've lost all your momentum.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So there's an urgency to that. If you're SGA in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
City, you just got your ass whooped by so much
a couple of days ago, You're gonna come into this
one and have a different level of man.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
We have got to make a statement. I do think
the over.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Hyped portion of sports talk breakdowns of Game three is always, well,
you know, the backs up against the wall, they're gonna
come out swinging in this next game. I would fully
expect Indiana to come out swinging against the Knicks. I
think the Knicks are gonna have to handle Indiana's momentum
early in the next game, just like today when we
watch Oklahoma City take on Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There's gonna be a.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Different level of fire from OKC because they know that
two to two feels that much different than three to one.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's just gonna be interesting to see who becomes the
first home team to win a game in that particular
series between the Pacers and the next Because to your point,
there are so many pivotal moments, it was more important
for Indiana to go to New York to win the
way that they did to get Game two was I
thought unbelievable, unbelievable to steal that level of joy, to
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steal the momentum away from the next because it's been
I mean, the Knicks. You and I have had this
discussion throughout the course of these playoffs when we've been
able to do shows together.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
FITZI and the idea that.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
America has kind of adopted New York basketball because it
is so much fun, because it comes with so much joy,
because it comes with so much celebration at every turn.
Whether you believe that celebration to be earned or whether
you believe it to be premature at this point in time,
I don't know if it really calms things down for
Knicks fans though, because you're still trailing in this series,
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you can't rely on home corn advantage. Nobody has been
really able to rely on home court advantage throughout the
course of these playoffs, as we've talked about at great length,
and to see Karl Anthony Towns, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I wouldn't speak for Knicks fans.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I'm speaking as a Pacers fan who is not happy
with the fact that my team gave up the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
And I do believe that they gave it up. And
I know that was injuries to Naysmith.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
That's critical as they're arguably one of their best defenders,
and that Karl Anthony Towns is capable of going super
saying the way that he did in the fourth quarter
last night. But like, if you're a Knicks fan, are
you calmed by the fact that Kat bailed you out
in that moment because you are going to have to
lean on him again, And as we talked about in
the first hour, Fitsie, I don't know if he is
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the kind of player that will bring the fan base
that kind of that kind of calm, that kind of reserve,
that kind that ability night in and night out to
give you. Maybe not what he did in the fourth
quarter because he was not you know, he wasn't relevant
for the first three and then just loses his mind
and in a way that they absolutely had to have.
(03:59):
But you don't want to. You don't want to be
in a position and need Carl Anthony Downs to do that.
You want to be able to look at that and say, oh,
he had a nice performance. Brunton had a nice performance.
We're spreading the ball around, even though it's a short
rotation off the bench for Tom Thibodeau. I just I
can't imagine that the Knicks fans are super calm down
by last night's situation, just kind of wiping the sweat
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off their brow.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I mean it'll be chaos Game five of the Garden
either way, because that series is either tied and that's
our opportunity to take the lead, or they're fighting for
dear life at the Garden. Either way, it's electric. By
the way, you mentioned some players, I will update you.
We put out a pole if you had to pick
one player remaining in the NBA Playoffs to build your
team around, which one would it be? Jalen Brunson in
last place behind Tyrese Haliburton, who knew surprises me a
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little bit. SGA raining the MVP, the leader on the
board at this point with forty four percent of the
vote over Anthony Edwards. So the general population does not
agree with you and I that we both took Anthony
Edwards squarely in this bucks give me a look of
disgust and doubt.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Oh, the general population is clearly still drunk from Memorial
Day weekend if they're picking SGA over Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And I mean, I honestly wouldn't dispute.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You mean picking the MVP over and Okay, yeah, so
you are an MVP hater.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's what we've just discovered.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I am a hater of this MVP, not not like
I mean, I don't like watching him play, if I
can be completely honest, like, he does not play an
aesthetically pleasing style of basketball. To me, I feel about
SGA similar to the way that I feel about James Harden,
in which he's a you know, he's just a he's
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a foul line merchant in a lot of these situations.
And to his credit, it's a successful formula.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
It has resulted in winning basketball.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
They were the best regular season team, understandably, so they
have a they have a quality roster in Oklahoma City,
and SGA is able to take advantage of the things
that he's able to take advantage of. But yeah, I
would absolutely take Anthony Edwards. I think people are insane
for that. That's that's nonsense to me.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And nice about it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Way say something that you made me say something nice
about Timothy Shallomey.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You need to say something nice about the m v P.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
His commercials aren't the worst thing in the world, even
though most people say they are.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
The MPO, well, not me to say something nice after
a long pause.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And I don't know those those commercials are are cheeks,
absolutely terrible commercial that's what he got.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, I don't like. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And Willie Walker sucked. Willie Walker sucked. And now that
we're being honest, I can be finally honest.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Different.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Chalome is an incompletely different class of of of superstar
Dylan movie.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I don't know, okay, okay, okay, movies.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
It's a little long. It's a little longer than it
needs to be.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Like, I understand it's tough to sum up Bob Dylan's
life in a in a two hour major motion picture,
But it's just there are some parts they're going to
trim the fat.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Do most people really need a summary of Bob Dylan's life.
I'm just being like, Look, I'm the guy that has
the music background. And you know, I'm sitting here with
the Humble Brag with a bunch of golden Platinum records
on the wall behind me, and you know, a Grammy,
and I'm sitting there saying most of the world just
absolutely crawling over themselves to get the backstory of Bob Dylan.
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Did I miss that part of it?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Like not?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I think people are board. We're just looking for for movies.
You know, movies are wildly on original at this point
in time. Anything that even strikes you as remotely different
you'll gravitate towards.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Is how I feel about those things.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'd rather see the leelan Stitch live action go ahead,
Hell yes, hell, yes, yeah. I mean the Leelo and
Stitch live action does look like it's going to be spectacular.
We've managed to do nothing but harmed all of this. Okay,
At this point, SGA though still leading in the polls.
So it just shows you that Anthony Edward's not getting
the level of love that you and I think that
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Anthony Edwards deserves, and inevitably Anthony Edwards is going to
continue to get that.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It depends on what happens.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Do you believe that if SGA wins a title this
year that that will change any of I mean, will
that change anything for you with SGA or are you
on the championships?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I think it's an excellent team like he is.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He is, of course excellent. I am not like that
is truly. I don't say that tongue in cheek. I
don't say that, you know, to begrudgingly or anything like that.
Like Shay Gilgess, Alexander is an excellent basketball player. I
just don't love watching him as somebody.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Who enjoys the sport of basketball.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I'm sure many people feel the same way about a
variety of different players in the league.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
This one just happens to be on the.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Best team in the NBA during the regular season and
arguably still at this point in time. As they've as
they've managed their way through the playoffs and survived the
Denver Series the way that they.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Did, I.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Feel like I'm going to I understand that basketball you
have the ability to take over a game as one
individual player more than any of the other major team sports.
Right football, we just saw this with Patrick Mahomes against
the Philadelphia Eagles. He is the best quarterback that I've
ever seen, and he was completely and totally overwhelmed by
a better football team than he had. But I just feel,
I feel that SGA is an excellent player on the
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best team in basketball, and that when likely they win
the title, depending on if they're playing the next or
if they're playing the Pacers', I steadfastly believe that it
will be the Oklahoma City Thunder winning a championship this year.
I just don't think that's going to change the narrative
too much for me, because I think all their parts
and pieces work so well together and that he is
just a particularly excellent part.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So Buck Rising on Twitter is spelled r E I
s I n G, just so you get Buck Rising
on Twitter for the SGA is overrated and Haliburton is not.
That's what we've gotten so far, Yes, and we got
Mahomes is better than Mahomes is better than Brady. That's
what you've given me there, because you've definitely seen Brady play, so.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Absolutely is a better quarterback.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean, Tom, it's this, this is Michael Jordan Lebron,
It's Brady is the Grady is the better winner.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Mahomes is the better player. Like that's nonsense.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
If people want to at me about that they're more
than welcome to it's just a stupid argument.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well this is this is electric.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Speaking of stupid arguments, you've got star flag football players,
if you can, usually actually use those three words together,
star flag football. But you have Star flag football players
out there saying that NFL players don't belong, and they're
missing the entire point of why flag football is going
to involve the NFL. We'll tell you about a next
seas Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzwer hanging out with you
(10:41):
for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
On Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
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Speaker 1 (10:58):
So too early in the morning to fall all alone. Wait, Ardy,
it's two Pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
That's flattering for me.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
He's a buck Rising.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I'm Jason fitz I'm not in love with you. You're fine,
You're You're fine, all right. I'm just saying, Avril Levine,
call me. I keep saying call me, but I don't
know where she's going to get my number from.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I mean, certainly not from Fox Sports.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But that's six eighteen am Central time where I'm at.
I know, you've got a little more sunlight in the
great state of Connecticut at this point in time than
we do in Tennessee. But I can't imagine that if
this is going to be an opportunity to connect with Avril,
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It's going to be because of this.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, maybe she's hopping on a bus after a late
night you know, maybe she's West Coast or something, and
she's a she's hopping on the bus and it's you know,
four in the morning, and you know, there we go.
Although I'm looking at the through her schedule, she's not
on the West Coast. We don't stand a chance. Oh
she's coming to New York though soon.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Look I'm looking at them to make my way down
to Madison's work arden next week. You're gonna have a
restraining order against you you if you keep if you
continue to talk about it this way.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Oh, yeah, you're right, it's it's it's I'm just saying,
you know, like we've never been in the same city
at the same time, and uh and uh.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know ben single, Like there we go, Like Avril
called me Avril.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
We did play when I was see when I was
with the band, we played the iHeart Music Festival together
out in Vegas at the same time, Like we played
right before Miley and Avril, and like Avril was backstage
and I, yeah, I just sat in the corner like
an immature child, incapable of actually talking to her. So
I blew it. I blew my chance. But maybe you
never know. You never never know when you'll.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Get a second chance.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I will see Buck rising Jason Fitz a little bit
of flag football talk here, and hear me out flag
football as it relates to NFL fans, because we all
saw the news last week the NFL approved the process
of involving football players NFL players in the Olympics with
flag football, and I keep hearing people roll their eyes
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to it, and I just want to explain Buck a
little bit of why this is such a key moment
for the league. Because we were getting ready for Inside Coverage,
one of the NFL shows I host for Yahu Sports,
and our insider Charles Robinson, when we were doing our
production meetings, said, well, you know what, this is all about, right,
and the rest of us were like, no, no, please,
go on tell us. So we started this deep dive
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explanation that I frankly had never thought of about why
the league for years has been looking at the particularly
the success that basketball the NBA has had in places
like China, and one of the advance's advantages that the
NBA has in China is all you need is a
ball in a hoop. So as long as you have
a ball in the hoop, you can play. Part of
the globalization of soccer has always been all you need
is field the ball.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, you can't do that in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
There's so many rules and so much to explain and
so much that goes into it.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's hard for new places to pick it up.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And for years they've been trying to figure out how
to grow flag football because specifically it's the easiest way
to make sure that all you need is a ball
in a field. So they look at this and they say, Okay,
there's monetizing opportunities here, like we need to find a
way to grow internationally above and beyond the series of
international games, and they look at flag football as a
huge way to do this. And then the players are
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looking around and they're looking specifically at the growth in
marketing for somebody like Kobe when he started to go
over to China and have success, and what do they.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Get to do over there.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Well, if you're an NFL player playing in flag football
and you're a Nike athlete, right when we hit the
Olympics in a couple of years, Nike's going to trot
those athletes all over the world during the summer. They're
going to go everywhere, and they're going to play without
helmets on, which is rare. So like, if you're a
Titans fan and you're watching cam Ward, you're really watching
the side of his head. You're seeing a helmet, right,
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Like it is tougher for football players to be recognizable
on the street because so many of them are known
for the helmets that they wear. This is your opera
or tunity to suddenly be trodden all over the world,
make a ton of marketing money out of your shoe
deal because your shoe company is sending you everywhere while
the league is growing its sport in front of people
that otherwise may not be willing to pick it up.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
And it's the introduce. It's the gateway drug that gets
you into football. So when you start thinking about the
money and what it means for the NFL, I think
what we have to understand NFL fans have to understand
this game is not for you. It's it's not being geared.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
To it like the NFL doesn't care if NFL fans
like flag football.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
The NFL needs people in China.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And Egypt and Asia and Japan and all of these
places that right now aren't flocking to the sport. They
want them to fall in love with flag football is
a gateway drug that gets them into the NFL as
the international series grows. And that's why when you follow
the dollars and cents, you understand that this is a
huge initiative for the league.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
To your point, the NFL already has the NFL fan base.
This is kind of the thing. And I don't know
if we are going to get to this today fits
your This is a topic of discussion for another day.
But the changes that are happening happening in collegiate athletics
and most specifically college football right where college football fans
are up in arms about what they consider to be
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I think on a lot of cases certainly in this
part of the country, in Tennessee where I'm at, almost
a direct attack on the traditions of college football and
kind of the ethos of what the sport is because
it's being taken over by essentially the television networks as
they try and squeeze every last dollar, every last viewership
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opportunity out of America's second most popular sport by not
completely transforming it into an NFL like model, but trending
more in that direction than college football fans.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Are certainly comfortable with it.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
But it's not about college football fans, because college football
fans are already there. They're trying to figure out how
much further they can expand the footprint of the college
game to make sure that they can, to your point,
grab dollar.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
In sense that's in front of them.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That way, the NFL has always been the king of this,
Roger Goodell most recently just getting another contract extension, because
I don't think any person is more single handedly responsible
for transforming the fortunes.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Of a league than Roger Goodell is.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
With the NFL, the opportunities that they've been able to
take the way that they have pushed this globalization of
the game in the ways that they're still finding that,
they're still finding other opportunities to further globalize the game.
It's all a part of the grand plan, right, And
at the end of the day, all of you, the
answer to all of your questions is always money. The
only I mean, what's the only real drawback of the
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flag football thing?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Can you tell me? Because there's only one thing that
immediately comes to my.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Mind injury, right, the only the only drawback in my
mind is the potential for catastrophic injury. But when pressed,
our insiders have talked to people around the league and
there are two different mindsets on this.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Let me be clear.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Coaches and gms want nothing to do with it. They
want the players have nothing to do with this. The
guys that sit in the owner suites look at all
of the players and the risk of injury as collateral damage.
If there's a chance that a superstar player goes down
with an injury in the Olympics, but it grows their
business by billions of dollars, which they think international growth
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can do.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Man owners don't care. They're willing to take that risk.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So the one risk that we as fans are sitting
here just obsessed about Like, Yeah, I'm the first to
admit that as a Raiders fan, I would love for
none of my favorite team's players to make the Olympics squad.
And I do think that's one portion of this that
we have to remember, Like all these players talking about
wanting to play, how are they gonna feel when they
have to actually go out there and try out for
this team?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And like who's gonna be selected? And how are they
going to be selected?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Like are players gonna be willing to take the ego
hit that comes with the possibility they don't get selected,
Like all of these things, but above and beyond that,
if your favorite player is in the Olympics and he,
God forbid, gets hurt, the Jerry Jones of the world
have made it clear behind closed door that they're comfortable
with that risk if it means that suddenly they can
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sign a new TV contract in China worth billions.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Of dollars, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I do wonder just to push back slightly on
what you're saying about coaches and general managers, because Fitzian
and maybe it's just talking to coaches locally down here,
and obviously the Titans of the team that I've covered
my entire career as a reporter and the NFL. You
pick up people throughout the court. More time you spend
in the league, the more people you get to know.
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People start to spread out. They go to other places,
they coach in other spots and things like that. You
try to keep connections that way. But when you talk
to coaches about that, there's almost and it may be begrudging.
It may be more begrudging for some than it is
for others, but there's almost an understanding of it is
very difficult, especially in the NFL, which is supposed to
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be successfully built for parody, and I think in a
lot of ways is even though the NBA is getting
ready to give us a seventh different champion year over year,
in the NFL, it's really just you're talking about Kansas City,
you're talking about Philadelphia. Before that, you were talking about
the Patriots and things like that. There seems to be
more runs of dominance in the NFL than there is
at a championship level than there has been just about
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every other major sport that coaches will acknowledge there is
something singular to be able to win a gold medal
for your country. This is to kind of get back
to the Knicks by a little bit of a different
kind of a conversation. This is Carmelo Anthony in the Olympics, right,
Carmelo Anthony is one of the greatest basketball players in
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USA basketball history. He is one of our greatest champions
when it comes to playing in international competition. He mellow
did more good for himself and for I just just
general goodwill around the sport by being such a willing
participant in USA basketball despite not having championship success in
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the NBA the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I think coaches are at.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Least willing to acknowledge there is something so singular about
competing for your country that way, about the experiences that
it brings. Yes there is growth, Yes there is financial opportunity.
Those things will always be a part of the conversation
because it is what drives all of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
But I think that more coaches than you might then
you might realize, are okay with the idea of it's
really really hard to do what we're trying to do
here at the NFL level. If you can give yourself
the opportunity to go to go medle for your country,
that may maybe it's not as important to the NFL
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coach because at the end of the day, they're keeping
their job based on their ability or inability to win
Super Bowls in the National Football League. But coaches will
also acknowledge that the competitors at the highest level, there's
just there's not anything else like this, and this is
the first time that NFL football players have really been
presented with an opportunity like this.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
To that end, that's part of the reason.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You know, again, go back to Charles Robinson at Yahoo
Sports talked a little bit to some people in the
league that seem to think, oh, players aren't going to
really want to go through this process. But when you
talk to people around the players union, they'll tell you
exactly what you just said. Fifty three players every year
plus but at least fifty three players walk with the Super.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Bowl ring every year no matter what.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Right, You've got about a dozen players total that will
get a Olympic medal every four years. And then when
you start to talk about some of the legacy conversation
in twenty years, it's not just going to.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Be well, how many Super Bowls did Mahomes win.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It's like, well, Mahomes won three Super Bowls, five Super Bowls,
and he also won three gold medals. Like that's all
very real for these players, and so yeah, I mean
it's a huge and look one of the coolest.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Experiences I've ever had.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Like when I was with the band, we had the
song for Team USA in twenty sixteen, so we got
to go to Rio and we spent a couple of
weeks out there and like did the Today Show and
all that stuff, all the NBC shows while we were
out there, but we got to perform at the Team
USA house and just watching the Olympians that were coming
in with their medals after they won them. Because once
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you're done with the Olympics, for a lot of the guys,
you just get to hang out.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Guys and girls you just couldn't hang out.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So they were coming in with their gold and silver
medals and watching everybody myself included, flock to just see
it to hold it, like it's such a special and
rare thing to get the opportunity to even be around.
And then you think about what that means, Like baseball
players have been dealing with this for years, Like if
you're a baseball player lucky enough to represent your country
and then you go out and win a medal, you
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come back into the locker room man like that.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
There is there's power to that. So I one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
For players, it's such a huge incentive, Like it's a
huge incentive for the moment to have the medal. It's
a huge incentive for the moment to be all over
the world, especially this first one, you know, the Olympics
in La. You just think about all of these different pieces.
Of course, if you're a player, in my mind, like
it's simple, you want to play, you want something to
do with this. Now, flag football players, it should be noted,
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are pushing back and.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
The most air quotes. The most famous flight footballer.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
A quarterback that has already told everybody he's better than Mahomes,
has made a clear look at flag football.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
At flag football.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Make sure you make sure you give him the appropriate contract.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I mean, he's not saying that he's a better quarterback
than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But he is saying he is a better quarterback in
flag football, and it's a different game in his football.
IQ understands that different game. Okay, I couldn't roll my
eyes any any harder to this. Are we going to
presume that the IQ required for flag football is so
outside the nomenclature of what is required to play in
the NFL that Patrick Mahomes can't figure it out. Like
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Patrick Mahomes is gonna look at the tape on flag
football and be like, oh, no, man, this I don't
know this guy over here that's like five nine with
tiny baby hands that's throwing the football. It looks it
looks difficult in the footage of throwing the throwing the football.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Like that guy is suddenly going to outperform mall.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Like I hope that it would be awesome if we
got into trials and all of a sudden, all these
NFL players went in there and tried out and got
their asses kicked by flag football guys, like good glory,
be to God.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Good on. I'm like, go get your medal and become
a superstar.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
But I really have that just experience watching flag football.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Hey, you don't know me and my God come out
like my football got okay.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I will not pass judgment at this particular time, though,
I am I am skeptical.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I am skeptical.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So the quarterback, the aforementioned flag football quarterback that you're referencing,
His name is Darryl Ducett.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
They call him Whosh all right, And he.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Gave an interview recently to the Washington Post upon the
news that the NFL unanimously approved the opportunity for NFL
players to participate in the upcoming Olympics in the flag
football competition. And this is the quote, the flag guys
deserve their opportunity, That's all we want. We felt like
we worked hard to get the sport to where it's at,
and when the NFL guys about it, it was like we
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were getting kicked to the side. I felt like I
was the guy who could speak out for my peers,
for my brothers that's been working hard to get to
this level, for us.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
To not be forgotten.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So not to tug at your heartstrings any more, fancy,
given the way that you started this radio show basically
fans plaining to everybody that was in, was was was
in within the sound of your voice this morning, about
how they should celebrate their team and experience their sports joy.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
He dus said, is going to be such low hanging
fruit here.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
He's going to be an impossibly easy target for people
like you and I to tee off on. Because of course,
we think that the flag football players should be pushed
aside for superior athletes if that's what gives our country
the best opportunity to win the gold medal. It's not
about you know, And I don't want to sit here
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and discount what he's saying, because I do think there's
truth in that. To get flag football to a point
where it is now an Olympics sports that means something.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
These guys have.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
These guys are playing it purely for the love of
their sport, right. It's not about the financial gain that
comes with it, although I'm sure that there's more financial
incentive than you or I may actually realize. But at
the end of the day, the vast majority of the
public is not going.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
To care about that.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
This person knows that and is still putting his neck
out there anyway to be like, yeah, I don't care
what you say about me. I feel a certain type
of way about this. I feel like we deserve our opportunity,
and I think he's right. And if he gets beaten
out by the people who are better than this, are
better at this, who are physically superior to him, and
it just takes a little bit of a learning curve
that's okay too, because I just I don't have a
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problem with the comments, you know, like, I think that
he is doing something that not a single other flag
football player is willing or able to do, and that
he's just going to be the one who gets individually
dragged for it.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Look a couple of things here.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Number one, there's footage out there of some flag football
guys taking on some NFL guys.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Who's was one of them. It's all over Twitter.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
People keep throwing the YouTube highlights up and he killed everybody.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's just absolutely annihilated everybody. I hear that. I understand that.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I also think there's a difference between stepping out on
the field and be like, oh, we're playing five football
today versus what's going to happen with the American team,
which is going to be practices and explaining some of
the best practices on how to approach the game. So
I think there's some variance on that Number two, who's
just thirty five years old. I just looked it up,
and so he will according to the Worldwide Interwebs based
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on his birthday, he will be thirty eight thirty nine
when the Olympics start. So am I willing to sit
here in bank that like a thirty nine year old
five foot seven quarterback is going to be the quarterback
of Team USA in four years.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Who the hell knows.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
But the biggest part about it is Buck, I love
somebody that's confident, come in and win your job.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
That's fine, And he's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Every person playing flag football right now deserves every chance
at playing flag football in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I just don't know why you where your benefit is
in poking the belly of the beast other than having
people know your name. And if the only reason that
you're talking right now is because you want people to
know your name, then you got to be prepared for
the fact that that talk might get you dragged. That's
just what's gonna happen now. I would argue, if the
Darrell do Says of the world say nothing right and
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Ducett just does his chop and comes into camp in
a few years and beats out Mahomes, you have the
best story right there. You have the world will fall
in love with. Oh my god, this five to seven
forty year old dude took out Mahome like the benefit
of the doubt you get in that situation is spectacular,
Like just just let your play do the talk for you.
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In that situation, he's got no win right now, and
going out and saying I can take down Mahomes. I
can take down Mahomes. I can take down Mahomes like
because if Mahomes decides he wants to play in the Olympics,
now we're all going to be watching him in a
much different way. We're gonna watch that whatever the qualifying is,
however they decide who's gonna make the team, we are
going to consume that content much differently now, particularly for
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who's where we would usually be rooting for the guy
we've never heard of. The You're like, oh my god,
this guy is five to three and he's out there
to get in the wide receiver spot instead.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Of justin Jefferson. What a great story. Like that's different.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Who's has lost to any of that because he's talking
his talk now, so now all of a sudden, I mean,
from the outset, he better live up to that talk.
He has not made his life easier.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
No, But like FITZI as somebody who and I know
obviously you do interviews with athletes for a living and
I do a different kind of interview just because I'm
in a locker room four days a week and talking
to football players on one specific team about you know,
the ins and outs of It's, you know, not quite
a beat reporter anymore at this point in my life, but.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Still like covering one team that way.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And getting the opportunity to talk to those guys. He's
responding to questions that he's being asked. It's not like
he's just out here running to a podium calling an
emergency press conference and giving his thoughts about how much
better at flag football he would be than Patrick Jackson
or Josh.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
He's being asked about these things.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Sure, ask go ahead, ask me, ask me about taking
on the NFL. Go ahead, ask me the question that
you would ask Whosh about taking on NFL players.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Do you think that you are able to play flag
football at a higher level than the best athletes in
the planet at playing football?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
You know, what all I can worry about is being
the best version of myself, and that's what I do
every day. And frankly, if the NFL players are going
to come in and compete, that's great for our country
because what we want of the best players to make
this team at the end, I'm gonna fight to be
one of those, and I'm gonna let my work speak
for itself. But you know, we've got plenty of time
between now and then for me to become the best
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quarterback that I can be. And I know if I
want to take down these guys, I'm gonna have to
be at my best.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
So I'm just going to focus at being my best.
How hard was that?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Can I get a collective boo of Jason Fitz right
now from the people back in Los Angeles as well?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Boom?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
How hard does it fits?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You don't want that kind of I mean, okay, maybe
that's the thing that diplomatic quarterbacks have get whitewashed through
the PR process. Say, I understand that that is our
perpetual existence. I like that this guy believes in himself. Okay,
that is the competitor that I went out on the field.
Even if he loses the competition, that guy is going
to go down swinging.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
No.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I hate that. I hate every part of that.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Look I love I think at some point, make your
life simple.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
If you are the best at something, make your life simple,
like just you don't you don't make anything simple. When
you bring more arrows to what you're doing, like when
you become a bigger target, you have not simplified anything
in your life. Hush is somebody that nobody had heard
of until and again, I want to say that loudly.
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There is currently a professional flag football league. There is
currently a flag football a group of players playing flag
football right now that believe that they should go to
the Olympics that nobody's heard of, nobody gives a damn about,
and they aren't growing the game in any real.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Palpable way because it's not getting on TV.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Right Nobody is sitting here saying I like, I covered
the XFL for ESPN when the XFL came back, I
covered a league that nobody watches, and it is it
is just a tough beat to be on, Like it
is just not easy.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
And you think nobody's watching the UFL.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
How many people are watching flag football on any given day,
The answer is your friends and family, Like your mom
watches it on some website because she's proud of her
kid for continuing to play football.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That is the condescending truth.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It is not nice to say you've got you've got
family members streaming flag football games on meth streams.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yes, yes, that's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It's like, oh, guys, you can find the content on
flag football dot tv and just watch her games like that.
You know, that's what's happening on this right, Like, so
there is at some point of like understand like there
are just certain.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
People that are a bigger draw and it's okay.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Like if I walked onto a set today and I
was like, you know what, I cannot wait to do
this TV show and I'm sitting backstage and I'm like,
I can't wait for this, And all of a sudden,
as I'm sitting there, like Steven A walks into the
room and Acho walks into the room, and they're like,
all right, we're only taking two panelists. I might think
that I'm a better panelist than two people, that I
might think that I'm more prepared to talk about all
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of it. And I'm still gonna read the room a
little bit and be like, well damn that just happened,
so like, and I don't make anything easier for anybody
if right before we go out there, I'm like, look,
I know everybody believes in Steven aanacho, but I can
take both of them like. It's just I'm making your
life easier. Who she's not making his life any easier.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You can at least.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Acknowledge that I can't.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Media training will continue the dudes and don'ts continue you
what you shouldn't do to your body. What one superman
has done that is absolutely shocking. We'll tell you about
it and we're act to it next. He's Buck Rising Up, Jason.
We're hanging in for two Pros and a cup of
Joe on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
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It's a fucking fits takeover of two pros and a
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cup of Joe. Hanging out with you on this Memorial
Day again. We want to take a moment and thank
everybody for their sacrifice and service. It's the reason we
get to do what we do is because people.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Better than us, brave than us, stronger than us, sacrificed
so much to give us these opportunities.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It means a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I've had the opportunity of my radio career over the
course of whatever the last almost ten years, to do
a lot of Memorial Day shows, and it always sort
of hits my heart. It hits my heart in a
really cool way because it reminds you what's important, It
reminds you what's not important. It reminds you how small
sports can be, and it also remind you how something
that is so insignificant in the grand scheme of things
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is so significant to so many of us and the
fandom that we feel.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
So there's something beautiful to.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Me buck about, you know, Memorial Day radio particularly and
getting to hang out with everybody.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Absolutely, and to your point about the silliness of what
we do versus the importance of what they do. We
are about to talk about one of the dumbest things
I've ever seen in my entire life, which is somebody
taking that level of fandom to such an extreme fitsy
And I am not the fan police. I'm not here
to cast too much judgment on how people express their emotions.
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I am pro New York Knicks celebration. Unless it's at
the expense of my team, the Indiana Pacers, which I
was upset to see the next be able to outlast
the Pacers last night in Indiana in game in Game three,
the Chicago Bears fan that we are getting ready to
talk about right now. Though there are a few more
questionable things than a tattoo of your favorite team. The
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only thing more questionable than a tattoo of your favorite
team is a tattoo of a loved one because sometimes
or a significant other, because a lot of times those
things can go one way, and those are very painful
memories to go through. And then also to remove the
video that I have sent you and that I have
sent the rest of the team here this morning for
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us to talk about and review.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Is one of the.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Dumbest tattoos I think I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, so there's a Bears fan that again eighties wrestling
reference bam Ba Bigelow fully polled like it looks like
a big head, right, and the top of his head
the area that you know, if you have male pattern
paulled in this the area that would be the most
bald is covered with the most ginormous Bears tattoo I've
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ever seen, and I mean it's the full bear head.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Like you know, it's not just the sea. It's not
the Chicago Sea, right, it's the bear.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And it's it looks it's beautiful. It's really well done.
The artist did a very nice job on the piece itself.
It is the size of his entire top of his head.
And look, I've got more tattoos than most people. I'm
I never know how to count them because, like people say,
how many tattoos do you have?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Both of my arms are sleeved, so I've spent a
lot of hours in the chair at number one.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
You're right, like a cover ups.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
In general are painful and difficult, and you know, in
this one, maybe you just grow your hair out if
you can, but I I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
But too, like I gotta assume that man is not
putting that thing on his head if you can grow hair, right, Like,
that's that's there for the world to.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Say, who's your audience for a top of the head tattoo?
Like I genuinely did. Look when I started my arms,
I'm like, Okay, how do I want these to show?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
What do I want people to see? From them. I
didn't really I realized when.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I got a tattoo, my first tattoo, I realized I
was making a statement, but I didn't realize I was
gonna have to.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Justify that statement all the time.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Like I get asked all almost every day, Oh, what
are your tattoos? Because they're big and they're colorful and
they show up. I a thousand percent understand that I
made that conscious decision. Top of the head guy, Like,
what are you doing everywhere you go? You just dipping
your head like you're showing people to your top of
your head everywhere. Yeah, that's a pain in the ass,
Like I don't even understand who the audience.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Is to look at the tattoo.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
And then also, like what level of success do the
bears have to have for the rest of your life
for you to justify that tattoo, Like you're gonna get
asked about it every day.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
There is no level of success that justifies that that
tattoo that is that is such we you were just
complaining about the TikTok generation and a commercial break because
I informed you of what you think about means versus
what TikTok thinks about means At this point in time, and.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Uh we willy nilly changed the meaning of words out here.
You yo, yeah, slippers slippers.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
We are in such a clout chasing generation of human
beings that there is no level of success for any
team that justifies that monstrosity being on top your head.
This man did it for the moment. He did it
for the discussion. It worked. We're talking about it because
it is so ghastly and so god awful that you
can't help but talk about what kind of person or
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what is going through this human beings mind that he
would take this thing to such an extreme to tattoo
the Bear's alternate logo across his entire skull. I mean,
I don't know, maybe you disagree with me. I know
you are passionate about the Raiders. I know you have
Raiders tattoos. I know that they are not to that extent,
but there is nothing to me that would justify what
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the hell this man did to the top of a skull.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
No, my right arm is everywhere I've ever lived in
the skyline with the moments. I'm proud of stuff in
my life carved out throughout it. One of them is
the Raiders shield with the American flag in it, from
playing the national anthem for them that made sense.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
This one doesn't. We'll get back to the Knicks and
some more college football talk next
The New York Knicks have at least kept themselves alive
in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We have a series.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It looked a few days ago like all of our
final series were going to be a joke and then
we were going to end up with a couple of
quick ones.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But instead, now.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
As we sit here on Memorial Day, we have two
series that are sitting at two to one and a
reminder of how different twenty four hours can make a
playoff series. Look, he's Buck rising up, Jason Fitzwer hanging
out with you on Fox Sports Radio. We get to
flag football in just a second. Some important information there
that I think everybody will be interested in. But Buck,
there is a level of calm for Knicks fans today.
(00:37):
I think after you lose the first two in the garden,
you have to acknowledge it. But I will also say this,
as much as we expect the teams that are up
to nothing to take a bunch of haymakers in the beginning,
like we expected Minnesota would come out with the thunder
the gods, they did, we expected that the Knicks would
come out with the backs against the wall, and frankly,
I mean they did. Even though it looked like this
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game was going to be ea easy Indiana win. I
would argue that game four, when you're at two to one,
is the time that you get the best from everybody,
Like you talk about the hate. Like, if you're Indiana,
you know you can't go back to the garden tied
to You've lost all your momentum.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So there's an urgency to that. If you're SGA in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
City, you just got your ass whooped by so much
a couple of days ago, You're gonna come into this
one and have a different level of man.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
We have got to make a statement. I do think
the over.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Hyped portion of sports talk breakdowns of Game three is always, well,
you know, the backs up against the wall, they're gonna
come out swinging in this next game. I would fully
expect Indiana to come out swinging against the Knicks. I
think the Knicks are gonna have to handle Indiana's momentum
early in the next game, just like today when we
watch Oklahoma City take on Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There's gonna be a.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Different level of fire from OKC because they know that
two to two feels that much different than three to one.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's just gonna be interesting to see who becomes the
first home team to win a game in that particular
series between the Pacers and the next Because to your point,
there are so many pivotal moments, it was more important
for Indiana to go to New York to win the
way that they did to get Game two was I
thought unbelievable, unbelievable to steal that level of joy, to
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steal the momentum away from the next because it's been
I mean, the Knicks. You and I have had this
discussion throughout the course of these playoffs when we've been
able to do shows together.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
FITZI and the idea that.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
America has kind of adopted New York basketball because it
is so much fun, because it comes with so much joy,
because it comes with so much celebration at every turn.
Whether you believe that celebration to be earned or whether
you believe it to be premature at this point in time,
I don't know if it really calms things down for
Knicks fans though, because you're still trailing in this series,
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you can't rely on home corn advantage. Nobody has been
really able to rely on home court advantage throughout the
course of these playoffs, as we've talked about at great length,
and to see Karl Anthony Towns, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I wouldn't speak for Knicks fans.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I'm speaking as a Pacers fan who is not happy
with the fact that my team gave up the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
And I do believe that they gave it up. And
I know that was injuries to Naysmith.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
That's critical as they're arguably one of their best defenders,
and that Karl Anthony Towns is capable of going super
saying the way that he did in the fourth quarter
last night. But like, if you're a Knicks fan, are
you calmed by the fact that Kat bailed you out
in that moment because you are going to have to
lean on him again, And as we talked about in
the first hour, Fitsie, I don't know if he is
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the kind of player that will bring the fan base
that kind of that kind of calm, that kind of reserve,
that kind that ability night in and night out to
give you. Maybe not what he did in the fourth
quarter because he was not you know, he wasn't relevant
for the first three and then just loses his mind
and in a way that they absolutely had to have.
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But you don't want to. You don't want to be
in a position and need Carl Anthony Downs to do that.
You want to be able to look at that and say, oh,
he had a nice performance. Brunton had a nice performance.
We're spreading the ball around, even though it's a short
rotation off the bench for Tom Thibodeau. I just I
can't imagine that the Knicks fans are super calm down
by last night's situation, just kind of wiping the sweat
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off their brow.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I mean it'll be chaos Game five of the Garden
either way, because that series is either tied and that's
our opportunity to take the lead, or they're fighting for
dear life at the Garden. Either way, it's electric. By
the way, you mentioned some players, I will update you.
We put out a pole if you had to pick
one player remaining in the NBA Playoffs to build your
team around, which one would it be? Jalen Brunson in
last place behind Tyrese Haliburton, who knew surprises me a
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little bit. SGA raining the MVP, the leader on the
board at this point with forty four percent of the
vote over Anthony Edwards. So the general population does not
agree with you and I that we both took Anthony
Edwards squarely in this bucks give me a look of
disgust and doubt.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Oh, the general population is clearly still drunk from Memorial
Day weekend if they're picking SGA over Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And I mean, I honestly wouldn't dispute.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You mean picking the MVP over and Okay, yeah, so
you are an MVP hater.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's what we've just discovered.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I am a hater of this MVP, not not like
I mean, I don't like watching him play, if I
can be completely honest, like, he does not play an
aesthetically pleasing style of basketball. To me, I feel about
SGA similar to the way that I feel about James Harden,
in which he's a you know, he's just a he's
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a foul line merchant in a lot of these situations.
And to his credit, it's a successful formula.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
It has resulted in winning basketball.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
They were the best regular season team, understandably, so they
have a they have a quality roster in Oklahoma City,
and SGA is able to take advantage of the things
that he's able to take advantage of. But yeah, I
would absolutely take Anthony Edwards. I think people are insane
for that. That's that's nonsense to me.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And nice about it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Way say something that you made me say something nice
about Timothy Shallomey.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You need to say something nice about the m v P.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
His commercials aren't the worst thing in the world, even
though most people say they are.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
The MPO, well, not me to say something nice after
a long pause.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And I don't know those those commercials are are cheeks,
absolutely terrible commercial that's what he got.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, I don't like. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And Willie Walker sucked. Willie Walker sucked. And now that
we're being honest, I can be finally honest.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Different.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Chalome is an incompletely different class of of of superstar
Dylan movie.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I don't know, okay, okay, okay, movies.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
It's a little long. It's a little longer than it
needs to be.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Like, I understand it's tough to sum up Bob Dylan's
life in a in a two hour major motion picture,
But it's just there are some parts they're going to
trim the fat.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Do most people really need a summary of Bob Dylan's life.
I'm just being like, Look, I'm the guy that has
the music background. And you know, I'm sitting here with
the Humble Brag with a bunch of golden Platinum records
on the wall behind me, and you know, a Grammy,
and I'm sitting there saying most of the world just
absolutely crawling over themselves to get the backstory of Bob Dylan.
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Did I miss that part of it?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Like not?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I think people are board. We're just looking for for movies.
You know, movies are wildly on original at this point
in time. Anything that even strikes you as remotely different
you'll gravitate towards.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Is how I feel about those things.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'd rather see the leelan Stitch live action go ahead,
Hell yes, hell, yes, yeah. I mean the Leelo and
Stitch live action does look like it's going to be spectacular.
We've managed to do nothing but harmed all of this. Okay,
At this point, SGA though still leading in the polls.
So it just shows you that Anthony Edward's not getting
the level of love that you and I think that
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Anthony Edwards deserves, and inevitably Anthony Edwards is going to
continue to get that.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It depends on what happens.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Do you believe that if SGA wins a title this
year that that will change any of I mean, will
that change anything for you with SGA or are you
on the championships?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I think it's an excellent team like he is.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He is, of course excellent. I am not like that
is truly. I don't say that tongue in cheek. I
don't say that, you know, to begrudgingly or anything like that.
Like Shay Gilgess, Alexander is an excellent basketball player. I
just don't love watching him as somebody.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Who enjoys the sport of basketball.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I'm sure many people feel the same way about a
variety of different players in the league.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
This one just happens to be on the.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Best team in the NBA during the regular season and
arguably still at this point in time. As they've as
they've managed their way through the playoffs and survived the
Denver Series the way that they.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Did, I.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Feel like I'm going to I understand that basketball you
have the ability to take over a game as one
individual player more than any of the other major team sports.
Right football, we just saw this with Patrick Mahomes against
the Philadelphia Eagles. He is the best quarterback that I've
ever seen, and he was completely and totally overwhelmed by
a better football team than he had. But I just feel,
I feel that SGA is an excellent player on the
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best team in basketball, and that when likely they win
the title, depending on if they're playing the next or
if they're playing the Pacers', I steadfastly believe that it
will be the Oklahoma City Thunder winning a championship this year.
I just don't think that's going to change the narrative
too much for me, because I think all their parts
and pieces work so well together and that he is
just a particularly excellent part.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So Buck Rising on Twitter is spelled r E I
s I n G, just so you get Buck Rising
on Twitter for the SGA is overrated and Haliburton is not.
That's what we've gotten so far, Yes, and we got
Mahomes is better than Mahomes is better than Brady. That's
what you've given me there, because you've definitely seen Brady play, so.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Absolutely is a better quarterback.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean, Tom, it's this, this is Michael Jordan Lebron,
It's Brady is the Grady is the better winner.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Mahomes is the better player. Like that's nonsense.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
If people want to at me about that they're more
than welcome to it's just a stupid argument.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well this is this is electric.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Speaking of stupid arguments, you've got star flag football players,
if you can, usually actually use those three words together,
star flag football. But you have Star flag football players
out there saying that NFL players don't belong, and they're
missing the entire point of why flag football is going
to involve the NFL. We'll tell you about a next
seas Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzwer hanging out with you
(10:41):
for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
On Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
So too early in the morning to fall all alone. Wait, Ardy,
it's two Pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
That's flattering for me.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
He's a buck Rising.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I'm Jason fitz I'm not in love with you. You're fine,
You're You're fine, all right. I'm just saying, Avril Levine,
call me. I keep saying call me, but I don't
know where she's going to get my number from.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I mean, certainly not from Fox Sports.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But that's six eighteen am Central time where I'm at.
I know, you've got a little more sunlight in the
great state of Connecticut at this point in time than
we do in Tennessee. But I can't imagine that if
this is going to be an opportunity to connect with Avril,
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It's going to be because of this.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, maybe she's hopping on a bus after a late
night you know, maybe she's West Coast or something, and
she's a she's hopping on the bus and it's you know,
four in the morning, and you know, there we go.
Although I'm looking at the through her schedule, she's not
on the West Coast. We don't stand a chance. Oh
she's coming to New York though soon.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Look I'm looking at them to make my way down
to Madison's work arden next week. You're gonna have a
restraining order against you you if you keep if you
continue to talk about it this way.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Oh, yeah, you're right, it's it's it's I'm just saying,
you know, like we've never been in the same city
at the same time, and uh and uh.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know ben single, Like there we go, Like Avril
called me Avril.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
We did play when I was see when I was
with the band, we played the iHeart Music Festival together
out in Vegas at the same time, Like we played
right before Miley and Avril, and like Avril was backstage
and I, yeah, I just sat in the corner like
an immature child, incapable of actually talking to her. So
I blew it. I blew my chance. But maybe you
never know. You never never know when you'll.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Get a second chance.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I will see Buck rising Jason Fitz a little bit
of flag football talk here, and hear me out flag
football as it relates to NFL fans, because we all
saw the news last week the NFL approved the process
of involving football players NFL players in the Olympics with
flag football, and I keep hearing people roll their eyes
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to it, and I just want to explain Buck a
little bit of why this is such a key moment
for the league. Because we were getting ready for Inside Coverage,
one of the NFL shows I host for Yahu Sports,
and our insider Charles Robinson, when we were doing our
production meetings, said, well, you know what, this is all about, right,
and the rest of us were like, no, no, please,
go on tell us. So we started this deep dive
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explanation that I frankly had never thought of about why
the league for years has been looking at the particularly
the success that basketball the NBA has had in places
like China, and one of the advance's advantages that the
NBA has in China is all you need is a
ball in a hoop. So as long as you have
a ball in the hoop, you can play. Part of
the globalization of soccer has always been all you need
is field the ball.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, you can't do that in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
There's so many rules and so much to explain and
so much that goes into it.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's hard for new places to pick it up.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And for years they've been trying to figure out how
to grow flag football because specifically it's the easiest way
to make sure that all you need is a ball
in a field. So they look at this and they say, Okay,
there's monetizing opportunities here, like we need to find a
way to grow internationally above and beyond the series of
international games, and they look at flag football as a
huge way to do this. And then the players are
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looking around and they're looking specifically at the growth in
marketing for somebody like Kobe when he started to go
over to China and have success, and what do they.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Get to do over there.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Well, if you're an NFL player playing in flag football
and you're a Nike athlete, right when we hit the
Olympics in a couple of years, Nike's going to trot
those athletes all over the world during the summer. They're
going to go everywhere, and they're going to play without
helmets on, which is rare. So like, if you're a
Titans fan and you're watching cam Ward, you're really watching
the side of his head. You're seeing a helmet, right,
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Like it is tougher for football players to be recognizable
on the street because so many of them are known
for the helmets that they wear. This is your opera
or tunity to suddenly be trodden all over the world,
make a ton of marketing money out of your shoe
deal because your shoe company is sending you everywhere while
the league is growing its sport in front of people
that otherwise may not be willing to pick it up.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
And it's the introduce. It's the gateway drug that gets
you into football. So when you start thinking about the
money and what it means for the NFL, I think
what we have to understand NFL fans have to understand
this game is not for you. It's it's not being geared.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
To it like the NFL doesn't care if NFL fans
like flag football.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
The NFL needs people in China.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And Egypt and Asia and Japan and all of these
places that right now aren't flocking to the sport. They
want them to fall in love with flag football is
a gateway drug that gets them into the NFL as
the international series grows. And that's why when you follow
the dollars and cents, you understand that this is a
huge initiative for the league.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
To your point, the NFL already has the NFL fan base.
This is kind of the thing. And I don't know
if we are going to get to this today fits
your This is a topic of discussion for another day.
But the changes that are happening happening in collegiate athletics
and most specifically college football right where college football fans
are up in arms about what they consider to be
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I think on a lot of cases certainly in this
part of the country, in Tennessee where I'm at, almost
a direct attack on the traditions of college football and
kind of the ethos of what the sport is because
it's being taken over by essentially the television networks as
they try and squeeze every last dollar, every last viewership
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opportunity out of America's second most popular sport by not
completely transforming it into an NFL like model, but trending
more in that direction than college football fans.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Are certainly comfortable with it.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
But it's not about college football fans, because college football
fans are already there. They're trying to figure out how
much further they can expand the footprint of the college
game to make sure that they can, to your point,
grab dollar.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
In sense that's in front of them.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That way, the NFL has always been the king of this,
Roger Goodell most recently just getting another contract extension, because
I don't think any person is more single handedly responsible
for transforming the fortunes.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Of a league than Roger Goodell is.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
With the NFL, the opportunities that they've been able to
take the way that they have pushed this globalization of
the game in the ways that they're still finding that,
they're still finding other opportunities to further globalize the game.
It's all a part of the grand plan, right, And
at the end of the day, all of you, the
answer to all of your questions is always money. The
only I mean, what's the only real drawback of the
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flag football thing?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Can you tell me? Because there's only one thing that
immediately comes to my.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Mind injury, right, the only the only drawback in my
mind is the potential for catastrophic injury. But when pressed,
our insiders have talked to people around the league and
there are two different mindsets on this.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Let me be clear.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Coaches and gms want nothing to do with it. They
want the players have nothing to do with this. The
guys that sit in the owner suites look at all
of the players and the risk of injury as collateral damage.
If there's a chance that a superstar player goes down
with an injury in the Olympics, but it grows their
business by billions of dollars, which they think international growth
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can do.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Man owners don't care. They're willing to take that risk.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So the one risk that we as fans are sitting
here just obsessed about Like, Yeah, I'm the first to
admit that as a Raiders fan, I would love for
none of my favorite team's players to make the Olympics squad.
And I do think that's one portion of this that
we have to remember, Like all these players talking about
wanting to play, how are they gonna feel when they
have to actually go out there and try out for
this team?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And like who's gonna be selected? And how are they
going to be selected?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Like are players gonna be willing to take the ego
hit that comes with the possibility they don't get selected,
Like all of these things, but above and beyond that,
if your favorite player is in the Olympics and he,
God forbid, gets hurt, the Jerry Jones of the world
have made it clear behind closed door that they're comfortable
with that risk if it means that suddenly they can
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sign a new TV contract in China worth billions.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Of dollars, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I do wonder just to push back slightly on
what you're saying about coaches and general managers, because Fitzian
and maybe it's just talking to coaches locally down here,
and obviously the Titans of the team that I've covered
my entire career as a reporter and the NFL. You
pick up people throughout the court. More time you spend
in the league, the more people you get to know.
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People start to spread out. They go to other places,
they coach in other spots and things like that. You
try to keep connections that way. But when you talk
to coaches about that, there's almost and it may be begrudging.
It may be more begrudging for some than it is
for others, but there's almost an understanding of it is
very difficult, especially in the NFL, which is supposed to
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be successfully built for parody, and I think in a
lot of ways is even though the NBA is getting
ready to give us a seventh different champion year over year,
in the NFL, it's really just you're talking about Kansas City,
you're talking about Philadelphia. Before that, you were talking about
the Patriots and things like that. There seems to be
more runs of dominance in the NFL than there is
at a championship level than there has been just about
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every other major sport that coaches will acknowledge there is
something singular to be able to win a gold medal
for your country. This is to kind of get back
to the Knicks by a little bit of a different
kind of a conversation. This is Carmelo Anthony in the Olympics, right,
Carmelo Anthony is one of the greatest basketball players in
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USA basketball history. He is one of our greatest champions
when it comes to playing in international competition. He mellow
did more good for himself and for I just just
general goodwill around the sport by being such a willing
participant in USA basketball despite not having championship success in
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the NBA the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I think coaches are at.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Least willing to acknowledge there is something so singular about
competing for your country that way, about the experiences that
it brings. Yes there is growth, Yes there is financial opportunity.
Those things will always be a part of the conversation
because it is what drives all of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
But I think that more coaches than you might then
you might realize, are okay with the idea of it's
really really hard to do what we're trying to do
here at the NFL level. If you can give yourself
the opportunity to go to go medle for your country,
that may maybe it's not as important to the NFL
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coach because at the end of the day, they're keeping
their job based on their ability or inability to win
Super Bowls in the National Football League. But coaches will
also acknowledge that the competitors at the highest level, there's
just there's not anything else like this, and this is
the first time that NFL football players have really been
presented with an opportunity like this.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
To that end, that's part of the reason.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You know, again, go back to Charles Robinson at Yahoo
Sports talked a little bit to some people in the
league that seem to think, oh, players aren't going to
really want to go through this process. But when you
talk to people around the players union, they'll tell you
exactly what you just said. Fifty three players every year
plus but at least fifty three players walk with the Super.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Bowl ring every year no matter what.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Right, You've got about a dozen players total that will
get a Olympic medal every four years. And then when
you start to talk about some of the legacy conversation
in twenty years, it's not just going to.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Be well, how many Super Bowls did Mahomes win.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It's like, well, Mahomes won three Super Bowls, five Super Bowls,
and he also won three gold medals. Like that's all
very real for these players, and so yeah, I mean
it's a huge and look one of the coolest.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Experiences I've ever had.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Like when I was with the band, we had the
song for Team USA in twenty sixteen, so we got
to go to Rio and we spent a couple of
weeks out there and like did the Today Show and
all that stuff, all the NBC shows while we were
out there, but we got to perform at the Team
USA house and just watching the Olympians that were coming
in with their medals after they won them. Because once
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you're done with the Olympics, for a lot of the guys,
you just get to hang out.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Guys and girls you just couldn't hang out.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So they were coming in with their gold and silver
medals and watching everybody myself included, flock to just see
it to hold it, like it's such a special and
rare thing to get the opportunity to even be around.
And then you think about what that means, Like baseball
players have been dealing with this for years, Like if
you're a baseball player lucky enough to represent your country
and then you go out and win a medal, you
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come back into the locker room man like that.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
There is there's power to that. So I one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
For players, it's such a huge incentive, Like it's a
huge incentive for the moment to have the medal. It's
a huge incentive for the moment to be all over
the world, especially this first one, you know, the Olympics
in La. You just think about all of these different pieces.
Of course, if you're a player, in my mind, like
it's simple, you want to play, you want something to
do with this. Now, flag football players, it should be noted,
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are pushing back and.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
The most air quotes. The most famous flight footballer.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
A quarterback that has already told everybody he's better than Mahomes,
has made a clear look at flag football.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
At flag football.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Make sure you make sure you give him the appropriate contract.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I mean, he's not saying that he's a better quarterback
than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But he is saying he is a better quarterback in
flag football, and it's a different game in his football.
IQ understands that different game. Okay, I couldn't roll my
eyes any any harder to this. Are we going to
presume that the IQ required for flag football is so
outside the nomenclature of what is required to play in
the NFL that Patrick Mahomes can't figure it out. Like
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Patrick Mahomes is gonna look at the tape on flag
football and be like, oh, no, man, this I don't
know this guy over here that's like five nine with
tiny baby hands that's throwing the football. It looks it
looks difficult in the footage of throwing the throwing the football.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Like that guy is suddenly going to outperform mall.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Like I hope that it would be awesome if we
got into trials and all of a sudden, all these
NFL players went in there and tried out and got
their asses kicked by flag football guys, like good glory,
be to God.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Good on. I'm like, go get your medal and become
a superstar.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
But I really have that just experience watching flag football.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Hey, you don't know me and my God come out
like my football got okay.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I will not pass judgment at this particular time, though,
I am I am skeptical.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I am skeptical.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So the quarterback, the aforementioned flag football quarterback that you're referencing,
His name is Darryl Ducett.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
They call him Whosh all right, And he.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Gave an interview recently to the Washington Post upon the
news that the NFL unanimously approved the opportunity for NFL
players to participate in the upcoming Olympics in the flag
football competition. And this is the quote, the flag guys
deserve their opportunity, That's all we want. We felt like
we worked hard to get the sport to where it's at,
and when the NFL guys about it, it was like we
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were getting kicked to the side. I felt like I
was the guy who could speak out for my peers,
for my brothers that's been working hard to get to
this level, for us.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
To not be forgotten.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So not to tug at your heartstrings any more, fancy,
given the way that you started this radio show basically
fans plaining to everybody that was in, was was was
in within the sound of your voice this morning, about
how they should celebrate their team and experience their sports joy.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
He dus said, is going to be such low hanging
fruit here.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
He's going to be an impossibly easy target for people
like you and I to tee off on. Because of course,
we think that the flag football players should be pushed
aside for superior athletes if that's what gives our country
the best opportunity to win the gold medal. It's not
about you know, And I don't want to sit here
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and discount what he's saying, because I do think there's
truth in that. To get flag football to a point
where it is now an Olympics sports that means something.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
These guys have.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
These guys are playing it purely for the love of
their sport, right. It's not about the financial gain that
comes with it, although I'm sure that there's more financial
incentive than you or I may actually realize. But at
the end of the day, the vast majority of the
public is not going.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
To care about that.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
This person knows that and is still putting his neck
out there anyway to be like, yeah, I don't care
what you say about me. I feel a certain type
of way about this. I feel like we deserve our opportunity,
and I think he's right. And if he gets beaten
out by the people who are better than this, are
better at this, who are physically superior to him, and
it just takes a little bit of a learning curve
that's okay too, because I just I don't have a
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problem with the comments, you know, like, I think that
he is doing something that not a single other flag
football player is willing or able to do, and that
he's just going to be the one who gets individually
dragged for it.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Look a couple of things here.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Number one, there's footage out there of some flag football
guys taking on some NFL guys.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Who's was one of them. It's all over Twitter.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
People keep throwing the YouTube highlights up and he killed everybody.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's just absolutely annihilated everybody. I hear that. I understand that.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I also think there's a difference between stepping out on
the field and be like, oh, we're playing five football
today versus what's going to happen with the American team,
which is going to be practices and explaining some of
the best practices on how to approach the game. So
I think there's some variance on that Number two, who's
just thirty five years old. I just looked it up,
and so he will according to the Worldwide Interwebs based
(28:35):
on his birthday, he will be thirty eight thirty nine
when the Olympics start. So am I willing to sit
here in bank that like a thirty nine year old
five foot seven quarterback is going to be the quarterback
of Team USA in four years.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Who the hell knows.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
But the biggest part about it is Buck, I love
somebody that's confident, come in and win your job.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
That's fine, And he's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Every person playing flag football right now deserves every chance
at playing flag football in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I just don't know why you where your benefit is
in poking the belly of the beast other than having
people know your name. And if the only reason that
you're talking right now is because you want people to
know your name, then you got to be prepared for
the fact that that talk might get you dragged. That's
just what's gonna happen now. I would argue, if the
Darrell do Says of the world say nothing right and
(29:28):
Ducett just does his chop and comes into camp in
a few years and beats out Mahomes, you have the
best story right there. You have the world will fall
in love with. Oh my god, this five to seven
forty year old dude took out Mahome like the benefit
of the doubt you get in that situation is spectacular,
Like just just let your play do the talk for you.
(29:48):
In that situation, he's got no win right now, and
going out and saying I can take down Mahomes. I
can take down Mahomes. I can take down Mahomes like
because if Mahomes decides he wants to play in the Olympics,
now we're all going to be watching him in a
much different way. We're gonna watch that whatever the qualifying is,
however they decide who's gonna make the team, we are
going to consume that content much differently now, particularly for
(30:11):
who's where we would usually be rooting for the guy
we've never heard of. The You're like, oh my god,
this guy is five to three and he's out there
to get in the wide receiver spot instead.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Of justin Jefferson. What a great story. Like that's different.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Who's has lost to any of that because he's talking
his talk now, so now all of a sudden, I mean,
from the outset, he better live up to that talk.
He has not made his life easier.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
No, But like FITZI as somebody who and I know
obviously you do interviews with athletes for a living and
I do a different kind of interview just because I'm
in a locker room four days a week and talking
to football players on one specific team about you know,
the ins and outs of It's, you know, not quite
a beat reporter anymore at this point in my life, but.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Still like covering one team that way.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And getting the opportunity to talk to those guys. He's
responding to questions that he's being asked. It's not like
he's just out here running to a podium calling an
emergency press conference and giving his thoughts about how much
better at flag football he would be than Patrick Jackson
or Josh.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
He's being asked about these things.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Sure, ask go ahead, ask me, ask me about taking
on the NFL. Go ahead, ask me the question that
you would ask Whosh about taking on NFL players.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Do you think that you are able to play flag
football at a higher level than the best athletes in
the planet at playing football?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
You know, what all I can worry about is being
the best version of myself, and that's what I do
every day. And frankly, if the NFL players are going
to come in and compete, that's great for our country
because what we want of the best players to make
this team at the end, I'm gonna fight to be
one of those, and I'm gonna let my work speak
for itself. But you know, we've got plenty of time
between now and then for me to become the best
(31:49):
quarterback that I can be. And I know if I
want to take down these guys, I'm gonna have to
be at my best.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
So I'm just going to focus at being my best.
How hard was that?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Can I get a collective boo of Jason Fitz right
now from the people back in Los Angeles as well?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Boom?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
How hard does it fits?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You don't want that kind of I mean, okay, maybe
that's the thing that diplomatic quarterbacks have get whitewashed through
the PR process. Say, I understand that that is our
perpetual existence. I like that this guy believes in himself. Okay,
that is the competitor that I went out on the field.
Even if he loses the competition, that guy is going
to go down swinging.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
No.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I hate that. I hate every part of that.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Look I love I think at some point, make your
life simple.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
If you are the best at something, make your life simple,
like just you don't you don't make anything simple. When
you bring more arrows to what you're doing, like when
you become a bigger target, you have not simplified anything
in your life. Hush is somebody that nobody had heard
of until and again, I want to say that loudly.
(32:54):
There is currently a professional flag football league. There is
currently a flag football a group of players playing flag
football right now that believe that they should go to
the Olympics that nobody's heard of, nobody gives a damn about,
and they aren't growing the game in any real.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Palpable way because it's not getting on TV.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Right Nobody is sitting here saying I like, I covered
the XFL for ESPN when the XFL came back, I
covered a league that nobody watches, and it is it
is just a tough beat to be on, Like it
is just not easy.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
And you think nobody's watching the UFL.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
How many people are watching flag football on any given day,
The answer is your friends and family, Like your mom
watches it on some website because she's proud of her
kid for continuing to play football.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That is the condescending truth.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It is not nice to say you've got you've got
family members streaming flag football games on meth streams.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yes, yes, that's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It's like, oh, guys, you can find the content on
flag football dot tv and just watch her games like that.
You know, that's what's happening on this right, Like, so
there is at some point of like understand like there
are just certain.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
People that are a bigger draw and it's okay.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Like if I walked onto a set today and I
was like, you know what, I cannot wait to do
this TV show and I'm sitting backstage and I'm like,
I can't wait for this, And all of a sudden,
as I'm sitting there, like Steven A walks into the
room and Acho walks into the room, and they're like,
all right, we're only taking two panelists. I might think
that I'm a better panelist than two people, that I
might think that I'm more prepared to talk about all
(34:27):
of it. And I'm still gonna read the room a
little bit and be like, well damn that just happened,
so like, and I don't make anything easier for anybody
if right before we go out there, I'm like, look,
I know everybody believes in Steven aanacho, but I can
take both of them like. It's just I'm making your
life easier. Who she's not making his life any easier.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You can at least.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Acknowledge that I can't.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Media training will continue the dudes and don'ts continue you
what you shouldn't do to your body. What one superman
has done that is absolutely shocking. We'll tell you about
it and we're act to it next. He's Buck Rising Up, Jason.
We're hanging in for two Pros and a cup of
Joe on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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listen live. It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe
on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz.
It's a fucking fits takeover of two pros and a
(35:23):
cup of Joe. Hanging out with you on this Memorial
Day again. We want to take a moment and thank
everybody for their sacrifice and service. It's the reason we
get to do what we do is because people.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Better than us, brave than us, stronger than us, sacrificed
so much to give us these opportunities.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It means a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I've had the opportunity of my radio career over the
course of whatever the last almost ten years, to do
a lot of Memorial Day shows, and it always sort
of hits my heart. It hits my heart in a
really cool way because it reminds you what's important, It
reminds you what's not important. It reminds you how small
sports can be, and it also remind you how something
that is so insignificant in the grand scheme of things
(36:04):
is so significant to so many of us and the
fandom that we feel.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
So there's something beautiful to.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Me buck about, you know, Memorial Day radio particularly and
getting to hang out with everybody.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Absolutely, and to your point about the silliness of what
we do versus the importance of what they do. We
are about to talk about one of the dumbest things
I've ever seen in my entire life, which is somebody
taking that level of fandom to such an extreme fitsy
And I am not the fan police. I'm not here
to cast too much judgment on how people express their emotions.
(36:39):
I am pro New York Knicks celebration. Unless it's at
the expense of my team, the Indiana Pacers, which I
was upset to see the next be able to outlast
the Pacers last night in Indiana in game in Game three,
the Chicago Bears fan that we are getting ready to
talk about right now. Though there are a few more
questionable things than a tattoo of your favorite team. The
(37:01):
only thing more questionable than a tattoo of your favorite
team is a tattoo of a loved one because sometimes
or a significant other, because a lot of times those
things can go one way, and those are very painful
memories to go through. And then also to remove the
video that I have sent you and that I have
sent the rest of the team here this morning for
(37:21):
us to talk about and review.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Is one of the.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Dumbest tattoos I think I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, so there's a Bears fan that again eighties wrestling
reference bam Ba Bigelow fully polled like it looks like
a big head, right, and the top of his head
the area that you know, if you have male pattern
paulled in this the area that would be the most
bald is covered with the most ginormous Bears tattoo I've
(37:50):
ever seen, and I mean it's the full bear head.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Like you know, it's not just the sea. It's not
the Chicago Sea, right, it's the bear.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And it's it looks it's beautiful. It's really well done.
The artist did a very nice job on the piece itself.
It is the size of his entire top of his head.
And look, I've got more tattoos than most people. I'm
I never know how to count them because, like people say,
how many tattoos do you have?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Both of my arms are sleeved, so I've spent a
lot of hours in the chair at number one.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
You're right, like a cover ups.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
In general are painful and difficult, and you know, in
this one, maybe you just grow your hair out if
you can, but I I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
But too, like I gotta assume that man is not
putting that thing on his head if you can grow hair, right, Like,
that's that's there for the world to.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Say, who's your audience for a top of the head tattoo?
Like I genuinely did. Look when I started my arms,
I'm like, Okay, how do I want these to show?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
What do I want people to see? From them. I
didn't really I realized when.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I got a tattoo, my first tattoo, I realized I
was making a statement, but I didn't realize I was
gonna have to.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Justify that statement all the time.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Like I get asked all almost every day, Oh, what
are your tattoos? Because they're big and they're colorful and
they show up. I a thousand percent understand that I
made that conscious decision. Top of the head guy, Like,
what are you doing everywhere you go? You just dipping
your head like you're showing people to your top of
your head everywhere. Yeah, that's a pain in the ass,
Like I don't even understand who the audience.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Is to look at the tattoo.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
And then also, like what level of success do the
bears have to have for the rest of your life
for you to justify that tattoo, Like you're gonna get
asked about it every day.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
There is no level of success that justifies that that
tattoo that is that is such we you were just
complaining about the TikTok generation and a commercial break because
I informed you of what you think about means versus
what TikTok thinks about means At this point in time, and.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Uh we willy nilly changed the meaning of words out here.
You yo, yeah, slippers slippers.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
We are in such a clout chasing generation of human
beings that there is no level of success for any
team that justifies that monstrosity being on top your head.
This man did it for the moment. He did it
for the discussion. It worked. We're talking about it because
it is so ghastly and so god awful that you
can't help but talk about what kind of person or
(40:10):
what is going through this human beings mind that he
would take this thing to such an extreme to tattoo
the Bear's alternate logo across his entire skull. I mean,
I don't know, maybe you disagree with me. I know
you are passionate about the Raiders. I know you have
Raiders tattoos. I know that they are not to that extent,
but there is nothing to me that would justify what
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the hell this man did to the top of a skull.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
No, my right arm is everywhere I've ever lived in
the skyline with the moments. I'm proud of stuff in
my life carved out throughout it. One of them is
the Raiders shield with the American flag in it, from
playing the national anthem for them that made sense.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
This one doesn't. We'll get back to the Knicks and
some more college football talk next
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