December 31, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason Martin & Brian Noe fill in for the guys and continuing the theme of "trust" rank the coaches remaining in the College Football Playoff based on how much they trust them. Also, Michigan being in good hands with Kyle Wittingham, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One more day left in twenty twenty five. Been a
fast year for me. I don't know if it has
been for you, But we are excited to be here
in the Fox Sports Radio studios in for two pros
and a cup of Joe on a day where the
college football Playoff gets back into action in the first quarterfinal.
Will be tonight. Before the ball drops, one of these
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teams season will be over, that being Miami in Ohio State.
We talked about that hour one. He's Brian, Now I'm
Jason Martin. Be what's happening?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Man? Are you? Are you excited about the other Bowl
games today?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
There's a couple of nice there's a couple of juicy
matchups if you want them.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Like you know, there's a lot going on in people's
New Year's Eve. I get all that.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
But there's a couple of games that you could watch
this afternoon, even this morning, depending on where you live
in the country.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
A couple that you know, no reason not to watch
the ball today.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hey, man, I'm all over it. I love bollseason, and
I think like there's more negativity toward bull season than
ever where it's just all these opt outs and all
these coaching changes, that you could look at it like that.
But look at last night's game USC and TCU. There
were a ton of opt outs on both sides, and
yet it was a great game. We had like a
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brilliant catch on the side of the end zone, one
of the catches of the year. We had a game
winning touchdown in overtime when it looked like TCU might
not even be in field goal range to tie the game.
It was a great game. It's a lot of fun.
So I think that you could look at it and
be like, oh, these opt outs and I can't even
watch the guys. I know, you could be gruff guy,
you know, But if you just embrace it and look
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at what's good about it, there are a lot of
good games that you're missing out on if you're just
not watching it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
No, I will say this, like some of these games
in the past couple of weeks, like when bullseason comes around.
I'm not sure that there's ever been a year where
I've watched or cared less about most of the games
to this point than this year. But now that's kind
of over, like everything that's going to be played from
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here on out, or at least I don't know eighty
eighty five percent is going to at least have some
of my attention. I don't know they'm watching every down,
but I think that's kind of how a lot of
balls are watched. A lot of the non playoff games
you can just kind of have on and you don't
necessarily have to watch every single play.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But you're right.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I mean both those games. I mean, the Music City
Bowl yesterday came down to a kick and Illinois was
able to beat Tennessee right here in Nashville where I
do the show from, and then you had that great nightcap.
You can't ask for close, closer scenarios than those, and
hopefully you get some of that, and.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Then you get some good teams. You get to see
Archs today, you get to see.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Diego Pavia maybe his last game in his eleventh season.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I know at Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
My wife hasked me last night if he was going
to get another year of eligibility, and I told her
about the running joke, and she's like, he's only had four.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I'm like, yes, I.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Know, I know, I know that it continues to be
a thing, but yeah, I mean, that's gonna be a
fun game today with Iowa, and then.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Of course you get the night cap of the end.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So I mean, I think we've reached the point of
Bowl season where yeah, let's watch this. Of course you've
got Michigan Texas. We haven't talked about this because we
haven't done a show since this happened, but Aaron and
I were on the same page on this on Saturday. Man,
you talk about pulling victory from the jaws of defeat.
It couldn't have been worse timing, a worse situation. Nothing
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funny at all about what happened at Michigan. They end
up with Kyle Whittingham, right, sure, And the only critique
is he's sixty He's sixty six years old. Like that's
a bad critique, folks. Like, if that's all you got,
then you you're just begging at this point because to me,
even not just the football side, just the like the
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way he's built the program, the respect, the kind of
maturity involved is exactly what you need coming off of
Connor stallions and everything that's kind of happened in this
last you know, four or five years at Michigan from
the coaching side, and just there's been issues and you
got an adult in the room on the basketball side
when you had John Beeline and so now you kind
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of bring in another dude who the only thing he
hasn't done is won a national championship, and he did
it at a place where you're not supposed to be
able to do it. He was consistently good there forever,
and now he comes into a spot where it's going
to be so much easier for him to bring in,
you know, just incredibly talented players all across the field.
I think this was to borrow a phrase from John Harball,
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and a plus move was ring there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yes, no, listen, I see it the same way because
think of a couple of things. First off, the timing
of the higher. So this thing happens with Sharon Moore
where he's fired four cause he's hooking up with I
don't know the intern or the undergrad at Michigan, and
that's a whole fiasco. So we got to get rid
of him. And it's like, all right, the coaching carousel
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is pretty much over, Like all these schools have their
new hires, Like all the main candidates are gobbled up.
Who are we gonna get? So to get Kyle Whittingham
with the timing in mind is very impressive. I thought
you said it very well. You have an adult in
the room. That's what you absolutely need. After what just
happened where you have the Connor Stallions, you know, stealing
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signals thing going on, and then Sharon Moore, you know,
hooking up with the undergrad and the next thing we
know that we got a butter knife saying like I'll
do it. I've done, I'll do it like you don't
need this at your university at all. And so to
get Kyle Whittingham, he is steady and and the fit.
That's the other thing is you look at Michigan and
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it started with Jim Harbob where they're running the football,
commitment to the run, gritty approach. That's what Kyle Whittingham is.
I could just see him in the interview, like we
need a guy that really prioritizes running the game physicality.
He's like, hello, are you familiar with my work? This
is what I do, this is who I am. So
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the fit works great too. And look, he might not
coach for the next ten years. He's sixty six years old, okay,
so be it if you get four or five great
years out of him. And then move on. You've got
someone who has steadied everything, and you can have a
lot of success in those four or five years, however
long he's there. I love the hire for Michigan.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, I mean, it's it is a it is a
phenomenal higher And if you need to know anything about
Kyle Whittingham, I went to just various fan forums and
stuff like that and comments on some articles. I wouldn't
see what the general consensus was, and what I saw
repeatedly was stuff like, man, I'm an Oregon fan, Man
I'm a USC fan. Yeah, yeah, I was so happy
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to get away from Kyle Whittingham's team.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Okay, yeah, there you go. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Sure, Like they're just like they're always prepared, they're annoying
to play, Yes, they go out all this other kind
of stuff. He's like, we're so happy we didn't have
to deal with Utah anymore and now he's at Michigan.
And they were just like, that's how good your hire was, Michigan.
I will say, I don't know if you deserved it,
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but sometimes you get what you don't deserve in a
positive sense, and Michigan did like that, and that's right,
Like all the candidates are gone, and I was wondering
how many schools were like, wait, we could have had
him right.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You know, it's kind of when you get a recommendation
like that, that means a lot. If you get rivals
and rival fan base is saying, pooh, glad that guy
is gone, that's a little bit like you know, if
you are in a relationship and you break up and
you get you just go up to let's say the girl, right,
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you go up to my ex girlfriend, You're like, hey, uh,
what happened? And she speaks very highly of me, Like,
then you know that I handled things pretty well.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
If she's just like, oh my gosh, he's the worst.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Let me tell you. I've you got time like that.
I've got like.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Nine things I can list off boom boom boom, bullet
to point fashion. You know, if you if your ex
speaks highly of you, that's very telling. And I think
it's very similar if if a rival fan base is like, hey,
salute Kyle Whittingham, Glad you're gone, dude, man, you are
a pain in the rectum. Like that means a lot,
and I can see why a lot of fan bases
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would say that about him.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, and look, there was talked that you know, maybe
maybe Utah said, hey, we don't want to lose our
coach in waiting, and he's going to take another job
if we can't go ahead and make this move.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And you know, it's probably the right time.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean the thing about Kyle Whittingham in this last
couple of years, he couldn't keep his quarterback healthy, like
rising just he just got injured and injured.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, injured. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It's hard to see and hard to watch because of
how talented you knew he could be. But it's not
like Kyle Whittingham has been like surpassed and he's some
fossil that can't coach and all this other kind of stuff,
like none of that is the case. So if it
is like Kyle saying, oh, yeah, well, you know, he's
earned his shot, I can make a move. Maybe it's
maybe it's time for a change of scenery for me. Anyway,
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I've done all I can do here. Let's let somebody
else do it. Well, there's no reason to think that's
not what's going to happen this time.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Either.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Let's say he is there five years, you don't think
he's gonna have somebody on that staff you like, and
the program will be in a position where it'll be
a much more appetizing job.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
One would think.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I mean, he's coming in at a perfect time because
they weren't great on the field this past year, and
then the stuff off the field was just just horrific.
And so you look at you look at what he's
coming into. He's gonna build this program into one that
I'd be shocked if they're not gonna be seen completely differently,
and that puts you in a good spot. And he's
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going to have a staff. He's gonna have a staff
full of guys that you can trust and that you
like as well. So, I mean, I just think it's
this is a one sauce. Yeah, if you're a Michigan,
this is just and you're watching him against Texas today,
who cares?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Like if they lose, they lose. You're gonna be all
right in the future.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Like you you found the way to hit the lottery
after the powerball was already picked. You went and got
a ticket and still managed to come out of this
thing smelling gold like it. When I saw that name,
I was just like, I've been wondering about him for
years whether or not he would ever go anywhere else,
because you know, he's LDS and he loves Utah and
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he's been there forever, and they're like, you stopped even
seeing his name on coaching lists when jobs open, not
because people didn't want him, but it was just like
he's just gonna stay there. It's like Mark Fugh is
not leaving Gonzaga. Kyle Whittingham's just gonna be at Utah.
And then that dude comes available and Michigan snags him.
That should terrify the rest of the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, And I like how we started off already where
he's like, all right, I'm not going to coach the
bowl game at Utah. Michigan really wanted to get him
there as quickly as possible, and so I like that. Right,
We've got the transfer portal window coming right up January
two to the sixteenth. So Kyle Whittingham, he's not finishing
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everything out today right with Utah in the Las Vegas
Bowl they're taking on Nebraska, he's already getting started at Michigan.
So he's already dug in. And it looked like I
thought that Michigan maybe would just hire the interim head
coach Biff Pogi, who he was at Charlotte for a
little while, and I mean he had a couple of
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games under his belt this season as the interim guy,
and I thought that might be the best they could do.
Is just higher Biff. Maybe it's for a year or two.
He's a bridge guy and at least he's familiar with
the program that sort of thing. But to get Kyle Whittingham,
I think that's an absolute shot in the arm. That's
way better than I thought they were gonna do with
the timing of it, and I think it's a great fit.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I think it's a great job by Michigan. I think
it works for both parties. But I also think that
he's got a big job to do record rooting their
own guys like that. Yes, that's what I want to
see Jason going forward, is you see all these rankings
when it comes to colleges and how much high school
talent they've gotten, right, Like, Hey, the Notre Dame's got
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a high recruiting class. What I want to see going
forward are is also another list, which is, hey, how
many guys on the team were they able to recruit
and keep right? Like I want to see how how
many teams have kept the most talent not just coming in,
but staying on the squad and not going out right.
But that's gonna be a big job for Kyle Whittingham
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here too. You gotta gotta recruit Brice Underwood. Got to
keep him there. Got to find a way to keep
your own guys as well as add to it with
the high school guys.
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That's what we got going on.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I want to talk more about that after the break.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I also want it since trust has been a feature
of this show, I wanted to talk about it in
relation to the NFL. But now I'm gonna go ahead
and tip you off to this because this gives you
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Playoff and rank them in order of.
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Before the game tonight between Ohio State Miami but I
set you up for this before the break, VISTI you
would have time. Yeah, eight coaches, eight teams left in
the college football playoff. You let off with a couple
of questions about trust. Yeah, and so I want to
stick with that theory and stick with that idea, that paradigm,
if you will, and say, from eight to one, let's
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rank the coaches remaining in a college football playoff based
on your trust level in them. So you don't have
to like go eight to one. We can kind of
banter back and forth after each one. But who do
you have the least amount of trust or faith in
on game day? Now that everything is set up, you know,
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all the practice time is done.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Now it's time to get on the field.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Number eight, I would go Pete Golding. He's the errum
coach at Ole Miss and listen, man, it's just one
of these deals where it sounds like we're on the
same page, where hey, he might be a great coach
you know one day, but just like a player, it
takes reps. It takes time. Like he's the interim guy,
he's taking over for Lane Kiffen who left to take
the LSU job. It's a tough ask you're going up
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against Kirby Smart and the Dogs in a quarterfinal college
football playoff game. Like, that's a lot to ask of
a guy who's a former defensive court and is now
just your interim head coach. So all these other guys,
the seven other head coaches, have a world of head
coaching experience that's greater than what Pete Golding has, So
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he's got to be at the bottom from me.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I mean, look, he might be great, and he might
be the great. He may be better than Kiffin as
a head coach of Old Miss, But if you're asking
the question based on trust and faith, it has to
be him because you just don't have enough. There's not
enough data points to back it up, Like there's zero
evidence of any of it, so it would be straight
up blind faith based on absolutely nothing. I will say this,
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the best story imaginable, like rip straight out of a
movie and straight on to like multiple thirty for thirties
is if Kiffen goes to LSU, largely because.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I don't think I can actually win a title in
Old Miss.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I could, I could probably get closed, but it's just
gonna be two hard year after year to try to
win if he goes to LSU and then Pete Golding
wins with that team, Like, imagine if they actually.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Won the national championship.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I don't think they're going to, by the way, but
what a story, because I feel like, do you think
ole Miss is just sympathetic? Like everybody's rooting for ole
Miss in a lot of ways right now because.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Everything that's happened has been out of their control.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And the more stories you've read with the players kind
of talking about the last month, Lane kind of being
checked out and you know, looking at the mistress instead
of the wife and all of that kind of stuff,
like it does like it's I can't imagine at this
point rooting against ole Miss, like because they've just kind
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of had to play football around this circus.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, listen, I think that the first round smacking around
Tu Lane. I think most people were asleep at the
wheel when it came to that game, or they watched
a little bit of it and they're like, Okay, I
see where this is going.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
First off, he was like an eight yard touchdown. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So if they're able to beat Kirby Smart and Georgia,
that would really start some momentum of like, hey, let's
go Old Miss, Like maybe this is a great story,
no Lane Kiff, And they might be even hate rooting
for Old Miss just because they want Lane Kiffin to
look stupid for leaving, right, Like it could be part
of that too, is and I think of that. I
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still think of Pete Golding as the interim guy. He's
the actual head coach.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
When I'm like, no, they don't have an interim tech.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
He was for a second and then they're like, you
know what, screw it. This probably the best we can do.
He's the head guy, but he doesn't have head coaching experience,
so yeah, he's at the bottom of the list for me.
And going up against Kirby, that's a man. If you're
thinking about a way, think about this. If you're putting
your list together of coaches that you trust, you can
very well have Kirby smart number one, Pete Golding number eight.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah could matchup. Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
So if you're looking at a you know, like laying
six and a half with the dogs, that might be
the way to go, might be the way to go
if you're breaking down the coaching matchups like this, all right,
so who do you have next?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Who do you have seventh in your list of trust
on the coaches in the college football Playoff Chris to Ball, Yeah,
I have the body.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
We're together there on that.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I think it's gonna get more interesting as we ca Yeah, dude, I.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Just just look at look at what's on the resume. Okay,
it's not just being tight and being conservative to a fault.
And look at a couple of guys. I'll tell you
what real fast Jason. As a Dolphins fan, I was
pleading with the football guides in the twenty twenty draft
for my fins to not draft Justin Herbert. And I
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watched every Oregon game I was in Portland. I talked
Ducks football the time. I watched every game, and I
didn't think Herbert was special at all based on how
Mario Christball misused him.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Dude, his final.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Year, Herbert's final year at Oregon was baffling. Like the
year before. He could be the number one pick, and
then he came back to school and then it was due.
This guy's gonna be a bust.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I beg. It's the NFL and he's borderline like
rookie Pro bowler.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
He's fantastic in the NFL. But Crystal Ball is so conservative,
so he coaches scared. It's so weird. As a former
offensive lineman, I would think it's almost like Dan Campbell
in a way where it's like, let's go, we're aggressive here,
we're gambling. It's not the way it is. And the
weird part about it is when they needed to be
conservative against Georgia Tech a couple of years ago, they
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have the game one. All you have to do is
kneel on the ball and run out the clock and
you win. And they didn't even do that. He's like,
let's run some running plays over here. They fumbled, Georgia
Tech scores a touchdown. It was a debacle. Mario Cristobal
cannot be trusted whatsoever. And that doesn't mean he's destined
to screw everything up, but it's as far as trust goes, no,
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you can't trust him at all.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
All Right, So those two we completely agree on. I
feel like we probably will here too.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
But give me your number.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Six, Ryan Day, ah man, I could, I couldn't quite
get there, but yeah, yeah, I'm not shocked.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I'm not shocked the way I.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Think of Ryan Day. And I'm curious who your number
six coach? Is in the pyramid of trust. I love
this a great topic. I go Ryan Day because listen,
even though he's coming off of a national championship last season,
we've seen him get tight to a fault time and
time and time again. Can't beat Michigan time and time
and time again with the much more talented team. I
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just can't think about considering the late great bum Phillips,
fantastic former NFL coach, no longer with us, but he
has one of the famous quotes in all of football history.
He was talking about Don Shula, and he said he
can take his in and beat urine, and he can
take urine and beat his in, which means, if you
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translate the the bum Phillip bum Phillips vernacular, here, he's
saying he can take your team. He can take his
team and beat your team, and then he could also
take your team and beat his team. The latter is
something Ryan Day is completely incapable of doing. He can
take his team and beat your team and just out
talent you. He cannot take your team and beat his team.
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He can't take the lesser talented team and beat a
more talented team. He had a hard time doing the
first part of it against Michigan for years. So I
don't think highly of Ryan Day at all. He's way
too tight. He's way too conservative. You can feel it
as a team. The team gets tight in turn because
he's so tight. So yeah, I don't base this on
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winning a title last season. He's got some things in
his favor, no doubt, But overall, no, I think it's
more so the byproduct of great talent instead of great coaching.
So I've got him sixth on my list of trust.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
All right, So I've got maguire.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, And it's not because I think he's a bad coach.
It's just again, I don't know enough. I mean, he's
thirty five, seventeen at Texas Tech. There's nothing wrong with that.
We understand why Texas Tech is still in this thing.
We knew what they were doing before the season. I
had them in my playoff. I felt like this was
going to be an experiment that if it worked, holy cow,
are we gonna see. You know, at least, if you
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where you have deep pockets, if you have the right
kind of enthusiasm, you're gonna see stuff like this. But
I mean, I just don't know enough about what he
looks like on this level against this kind of competition. Yeah,
I'm not counting them out. I do have them losing
to Oregon, but I mean the defense is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I just don't trust the offense quite as much. He
might be great, I just at.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
The very least I have seen Ryan Day win a championship.
I've seen him in pressure moments. That doesn't always reflect
the best on him to your point, but I just
I know a little bit more about Ryan Day to
do Joey McGuire.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
So that's why I would put McGuire six fair Enough,
I flip flopped him. I had Joeyah fifth on my
list for basically the same reasons you're talking about, where
he's done a really good job. They've had obviously a
phenomenal season. I just don't know enough about him come
playoff time and we're gonna get some answers here. So
it's more so the unknown with McGuire. So that's why
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I just put Ryan Day sixth and then McGuire fifth.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
On my list. Yeah, so I flipped him. Yeah, No,
it's fair that Day at five for.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Basically the same same reasons that you laid out. He's
definitely not somebody who built the program from nothing Like
he's somebody that at the very least you could say
he was on second with a big lead towards third,
but he was probably already on third.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Base when he took that job. Hadn't done a bad job.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But you can look, I feel like there are there's
at least a handful of coaches that could be in
the same spot as he's been and done almost.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Exactly what he's done. That's right, So I think that's
what it is.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I just don't know that he has like distinguished himself
as this gravitating or something.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
With the talent that they have with U.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And he has built a great staff, but you know,
you're losing a few of those guys now. So I
definitely agree with you and his decisions when it comes
to just being conservative in big games, that's a real concern. Like,
with the talent you have, you should be aggressive all
the time, it feels like to me, and he's just
not been that way. So, uh, we don't have to
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belabor it just because you made good points about him.
So who do you have fourth?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Now? Is when it gets pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, I go Dan Lanning. I go with the Oregon
coach and listen, we're in the top half of trust,
so there's nothing wrong with being fort all these guys
are good. Yeah, I'd go with the Oregon head coach
where he's had a ton of regular season success. It's
just we haven't seen the playoff success. Obviously, they got
blown out of the water against Ohio State last season.
But what I like about Lanning is, look, he's a grinder,
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and I like it's like, I like the tone that
he sets where he's he takes things personally. You know,
I think it was a dumb quote, but I do
like that he's feisty. Where, yeah, they're getting ready to
play Colorado last year and he's like they're fighting for clicks,
we're fighting for wins. I thought that was totally unfair.
But he's feisty. Like he's like that that yappy dog
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that's a little bit bigger than the you know, he's
not quite a chihuahua, you know, he's like a mid
sized dog that's yappy and like, what's up?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You want some of this? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Like that's that's Dan Lanning as a coach, and I
like that in terms of like a twelve team college
football playoff and trying to emerge from this take it
on Texas Tech. I think that serves you well overall.
It's just we got to see more playoff success. So
I'd have him fourth on my list.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Okay, so I would too, and it's mainly just because
I I want to see a couple more signature wins.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Out of his program.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Right, most of the best games I've seen him Kasher games,
they've lost.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And it's not because he's been bad.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm not including the Ohio State game that was just
I was insane last year at college Football Playoff, but
like the bad with Debor's Washington teams, the Indiana loss
this season, like he's done a good job and losses,
but they've lost most of those games.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I just want to see them.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
He's the guy I want to see take the next
step because I really like him.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I like the way he goes about what he does.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I like the confidence, borderline cockiness here and there, but
I think you kind of have to have a little
bit of that, and I like the way his teams play.
Him saying that we were below the standard because of
the second half against James Madison did have me roll
my eyes because it's not like the starters are in the.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Game at that point in time.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
And I just think that was an overblown storyline that oh,
this is getting close. I know it's really not. But yeah,
I'm not going there. But yeah, I've got Landing it
for as well.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But I like him.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
This is kind of the year where like, if they
can step up win a couple of the couple of
games from here, you might have a completely different feeling
about him. But I love that the way that he's
built that program, and I like them going forward. So
but I'm with you. So I've got him at four. Yeah,
who do you have at three?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I went Kaylin to Bore and a couple of things
with this. I like Kaylin a lot. What he did
at Washington very good, got to a championship game. They
crashed and burned against Michigan, but it's it's not a
mortal sin to lose to a Jim Harbaugh team that
was really good that season. And I look at Kaylin,
now what I like about him. He's aggressive, man, He
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is not shy of being maybe even overly aggressive. You
go back to the Iron Bowl against Auburn this season
and they're going for it on fourth and two, they
didn't take the points, they didn't take a field goal
to take the lead. They went for it on fourth
and two. If he doesn't get that first down, if
they don't get that first down, and somehow Auburn wins
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that game, j Mart good lord, like they are ready
to not just get him out of town. They are
ready to like uh and his end and his days
here on earth is what they'd be ready to do.
So for him to make that gutsy of a call,
which was like borderline reckless, to not take the points
and go for it on fourth and two, it worked out.
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But he is not afraid at all to be public
enemy number one. He's like, I think this gives us
the best chance to win. So this is the decision.
This is the call. I really respect that about him.
It's more so what he has right now. Do I
trust him with no running game, wait man, no pass rush,
with a quarterback in ty Simpson who's been good most
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of this year.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
But he's not Michael Pennock Junior.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Right, that's right, and they're overly relying on him. He's
been skittish, he's been inaccurate down the stretch. I don't
trust him at all in this spot, so that's a
big part of it as well.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, so I agree with that, and I think that's
exactly the way to talk about it is. You can't
separate in a lot of these cases, but especially in
Alabama's case, you cannot separate the coach from what he
has on that team right now. And without jam Miller,
they haven't ever run it at all. But even with
Jam they haven't been that good. The old line has
not been good, the defense has not been as advertised. Uh,
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you can have them a lot in the passing game,
and then yeah, Simpson played his best early in the season.
Actually probably during the middle of the seasons, probably when
he really kind of hit his stride. But I mean,
Ryan Williams has disappeared completely on that team.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I still think Debor de Bor is just a different
kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like when you listen to him and stuff, you like him,
you like him, you trust him, you like the way
he's doing things. But I think that's the difference between them,
is that when you look at, uh, some of these other.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Guys, the Bor just doesn't have the horses this year.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
That's right, I know, you look at you look at
that matchup with Indiana. You're like, but it's still Alabama.
It's like, yeah, it's Alabama in name only, it's not
this is not that same Alabama team.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I think I'm gonna hold off.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Okay, we're gonna go to break and we'll come back
and we'll do two in one, and then I have
at least one other question I want to pose to you,
like just based on something we talked about the last
time we hosted together. So two and one, honestly, you
could say two and one, you're arguing between maybe the
two best coaches in the sport.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Period at this point. Yeah, at least I think it's arguable.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
There's a couple other guys you might want to throw
in there that didn't make the College Football Playoff. Don't
want to open up wounds about notre name, but Marcus
Freeman's definitely a good coach.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
No other guys, and we already talked about winning haam.
But we'll do that.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
On the other side, if you've ever wanted to try
an Olympic and Paralympic sport, you should try fencing. It's fast,
it's safe, it's easy to start. Find a beginner class.
That's what's important to me because I don't know if
they're gonna hand me any kind of a weapon if
it's not a very beginner class.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But I'm gonna look into USA fencing.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Go to USA Fencing dot org slash try fencing. That's
USA Fencing dot org slash try fencing. So we're down
to two. Is it's Signetti or Smart that you trust
the most of the coaches remaining in the college football Playoff.
We will decipher that and get you an answer when
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Speaker 2 (34:57):
All right, two coaches left.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
We ranked eight to two of the college football playoff
coaches that we trust the most, and we are down
to two.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It's Kurt Signetti and it is Kirby Smart.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
What I want to know is that the anti Indiana
pro Notre Dame bias is going to come out here.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Oh man, yeah, now, Notre Dame. I'm totally cool with you.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You know, I'm just trying to throw some fuel on
a non existent fire.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Right there you go.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I like, so, who do you have at number two?
Number two?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I went Signetti?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah you did, because you're a Notre Dame hall and
we all know it.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
No, no, no, I went with Signetti for a couple
of reasons. One, listen, it's almost all positive. You look
at what he's done. He took over for a program
Jason that in the final three years before he got there,
their record was nine and twenty seven. And what has
he done? He turned him around instantaneously. First year they
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went to the playoff. Second year they not only made
it back to the playoff one seed that's undefeated and
they have the Heisman winner. Pretty good for an encore,
right there. Yes, yes, And you could look at this
and say he doesn't have one playoff win yet, right,
And that's true. He doesn't have that, and that's one
of the main reasons I don't have him number one
on this list. But I'll tell you what. There was
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one time I drove through Oklahoma and the sky was
just turning black, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this
looks like the movie Twister, Right, there's a storm coming, man, Like,
I didn't have to be a resident of Oklahoma to
know that a storm was a bruin, you know. And
that's how I feel about Signetti. I don't have to
see playoff success to know that playoff success is coming,
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and a lot of it I think is coming for
him this season. So I've got him number two mostly
for great reasons. The only reason I slat him under
Kirby Smart, who's won two titles, is because Signetti doesn't
have one playoff win, So I can't put him number one.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Do you know how easy it would have been for
Indiana to have just been like, oh, that was a
good story last year. Thanks for showing up against Notre Dame.
Uh that's gonna be good for Indiana fans for the
next fifty years.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And well you'll see this again.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Do you know how easy it would have been for
them to just go right on back into the background.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh, it would have been so easy, been so easy.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
They came back. They are significantly better than they were
last year. And they were good, really good last year.
But like, this is no longer like some cute story.
This is a uh oh, we might actually have to
take this seriously for a very long time. I've got
Signetti number two as well. But this is my title
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game in my bracket. I've got this, and it actually
comes down to it doesn't come down to the coaches,
because I trust both of them, and like we said,
I trust Debor quite a bit, Landing I trust quite
a bit. And I think there is a tier list,
and I think that that's probably where it stops for me.
I think at that point there's there's a drop off
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before you get four to five. But there's nothing Signetti
has done wrong other than he just hasn't quite had
enough time to show me on this stage what he
can do. So we're gonna see that potentially this year.
So that obviously means we both have Kirby Smart number one.
I'll just say the biggest reason for me isn't the
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fact that he's already done this a few times. It's
that his decisions as a coach, specifically even in games
this year, the Old Miss game turned because the first
time they played because he got super aggressive, he pulls
fakes out, like there's just stuff that he does where
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it's just like he completely turned the momentum of that game.
And it wasn't just because the players executed. It's because
he had the guts to trust them enough that he
put them in situations where it's like, hey man, we've
got to pull this thing off or this is gonna
look real bad. I just love the aggressive nature and
the craftiness, yeah, with which.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
He's a very shrewd coach.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
With the way that he performs on the sidelines, and
that is a rare skill.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, the reasons I have him number one, it's it's
not just the resume and winning a couple of titles,
which obviously matters a ton, It's that his personality is
the team's personality, you know, his fingerprints are all over
this team and they just battle.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Man, he is a feisty guy. He's like a bulldog.
He's like a bulldog coaching the Bulldogs. And that's how
they play, that's how they behave. They just will. Like
the Tennessee game, it looked like they didn't have a
chance to win that game, and they just keep coming
after you and then maybe they hit a pass and
maybe they get a stop, and maybe they're right back
in it, maybe they win it at the end of
the day. He's just he's phenomenal. He said it before
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this year. It's my favorite quote, We're hard to kill,
and Oklahoma loved it so much they ripped it off
of him and try to make it their whole thing.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And then also the last thing, the defense looks so
much better throughout the season. That is the trademark of
great coaching. They didn't just get new players, they didn't
go to the portal mid season. They looked really bad
at the beginning of the year. They looked so much better.
They punked Alabama in the SEC title game. Their defense
looks so much better, And that's a trademark of great
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coaching right there.
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One more day left in twenty twenty five. Been a
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Will be tonight. Before the ball drops, one of these
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teams season will be over, that being Miami in Ohio State.
We talked about that hour one. He's Brian, Now I'm
Jason Martin. Be what's happening?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Man? Are you? Are you excited about the other Bowl
games today?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
There's a couple of nice there's a couple of juicy
matchups if you want them.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Like you know, there's a lot going on in people's
New Year's Eve. I get all that.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
But there's a couple of games that you could watch
this afternoon, even this morning, depending on where you live
in the country.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
A couple that you know, no reason not to watch
the ball today.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hey, man, I'm all over it. I love bollseason, and
I think like there's more negativity toward bull season than
ever where it's just all these opt outs and all
these coaching changes, that you could look at it like that.
But look at last night's game USC and TCU. There
were a ton of opt outs on both sides, and
yet it was a great game. We had like a
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brilliant catch on the side of the end zone, one
of the catches of the year. We had a game
winning touchdown in overtime when it looked like TCU might
not even be in field goal range to tie the game.
It was a great game. It's a lot of fun.
So I think that you could look at it and
be like, oh, these opt outs and I can't even
watch the guys. I know, you could be gruff guy,
you know, But if you just embrace it and look
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at what's good about it, there are a lot of
good games that you're missing out on if you're just
not watching it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
No, I will say this, like some of these games
in the past couple of weeks, like when bullseason comes around.
I'm not sure that there's ever been a year where
I've watched or cared less about most of the games
to this point than this year. But now that's kind
of over, like everything that's going to be played from
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here on out, or at least I don't know eighty
eighty five percent is going to at least have some
of my attention. I don't know they'm watching every down,
but I think that's kind of how a lot of
balls are watched. A lot of the non playoff games
you can just kind of have on and you don't
necessarily have to watch every single play.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But you're right.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I mean both those games. I mean, the Music City
Bowl yesterday came down to a kick and Illinois was
able to beat Tennessee right here in Nashville where I
do the show from, and then you had that great nightcap.
You can't ask for close, closer scenarios than those, and
hopefully you get some of that, and.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Then you get some good teams. You get to see
Archs today, you get to see.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Diego Pavia maybe his last game in his eleventh season.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I know at Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
My wife hasked me last night if he was going
to get another year of eligibility, and I told her
about the running joke, and she's like, he's only had four.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I'm like, yes, I.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Know, I know, I know that it continues to be
a thing, but yeah, I mean, that's gonna be a
fun game today with Iowa, and then.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Of course you get the night cap of the end.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So I mean, I think we've reached the point of
Bowl season where yeah, let's watch this. Of course you've
got Michigan Texas. We haven't talked about this because we
haven't done a show since this happened, but Aaron and
I were on the same page on this on Saturday. Man,
you talk about pulling victory from the jaws of defeat.
It couldn't have been worse timing, a worse situation. Nothing
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funny at all about what happened at Michigan. They end
up with Kyle Whittingham, right, sure, And the only critique
is he's sixty He's sixty six years old. Like that's
a bad critique, folks. Like, if that's all you got,
then you you're just begging at this point because to me,
even not just the football side, just the like the
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way he's built the program, the respect, the kind of
maturity involved is exactly what you need coming off of
Connor stallions and everything that's kind of happened in this
last you know, four or five years at Michigan from
the coaching side, and just there's been issues and you
got an adult in the room on the basketball side
when you had John Beeline and so now you kind
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of bring in another dude who the only thing he
hasn't done is won a national championship, and he did
it at a place where you're not supposed to be
able to do it. He was consistently good there forever,
and now he comes into a spot where it's going
to be so much easier for him to bring in,
you know, just incredibly talented players all across the field.
I think this was to borrow a phrase from John Harball,
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and a plus move was ring there you go.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yes, no, listen, I see it the same way because
think of a couple of things. First off, the timing
of the higher. So this thing happens with Sharon Moore
where he's fired four cause he's hooking up with I
don't know the intern or the undergrad at Michigan, and
that's a whole fiasco. So we got to get rid
of him. And it's like, all right, the coaching carousel
(05:02):
is pretty much over, Like all these schools have their
new hires, Like all the main candidates are gobbled up.
Who are we gonna get? So to get Kyle Whittingham
with the timing in mind is very impressive. I thought
you said it very well. You have an adult in
the room. That's what you absolutely need. After what just
happened where you have the Connor Stallions, you know, stealing
(05:25):
signals thing going on, and then Sharon Moore, you know,
hooking up with the undergrad and the next thing we
know that we got a butter knife saying like I'll
do it. I've done, I'll do it like you don't
need this at your university at all. And so to
get Kyle Whittingham, he is steady and and the fit.
That's the other thing is you look at Michigan and
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it started with Jim Harbob where they're running the football,
commitment to the run, gritty approach. That's what Kyle Whittingham is.
I could just see him in the interview, like we
need a guy that really prioritizes running the game physicality.
He's like, hello, are you familiar with my work? This
is what I do, this is who I am. So
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the fit works great too. And look, he might not
coach for the next ten years. He's sixty six years old, okay,
so be it if you get four or five great
years out of him. And then move on. You've got
someone who has steadied everything, and you can have a
lot of success in those four or five years, however
long he's there. I love the hire for Michigan.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, I mean, it's it is a it is a
phenomenal higher And if you need to know anything about
Kyle Whittingham, I went to just various fan forums and
stuff like that and comments on some articles. I wouldn't
see what the general consensus was, and what I saw
repeatedly was stuff like, man, I'm an Oregon fan, Man
I'm a USC fan. Yeah, yeah, I was so happy
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to get away from Kyle Whittingham's team.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Okay, yeah, there you go. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Sure, Like they're just like they're always prepared, they're annoying
to play, Yes, they go out all this other kind
of stuff. He's like, we're so happy we didn't have
to deal with Utah anymore and now he's at Michigan.
And they were just like, that's how good your hire was, Michigan.
I will say, I don't know if you deserved it,
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but sometimes you get what you don't deserve in a
positive sense, and Michigan did like that, and that's right,
Like all the candidates are gone, and I was wondering
how many schools were like, wait, we could have had
him right.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You know, it's kind of when you get a recommendation
like that, that means a lot. If you get rivals
and rival fan base is saying, pooh, glad that guy
is gone, that's a little bit like you know, if
you are in a relationship and you break up and
you get you just go up to let's say the girl, right,
(07:49):
you go up to my ex girlfriend, You're like, hey, uh,
what happened? And she speaks very highly of me, Like,
then you know that I handled things pretty well.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
If she's just like, oh my gosh, he's the worst.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Let me tell you. I've you got time like that.
I've got like.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Nine things I can list off boom boom boom, bullet
to point fashion. You know, if you if your ex
speaks highly of you, that's very telling. And I think
it's very similar if if a rival fan base is like, hey,
salute Kyle Whittingham, Glad you're gone, dude, man, you are
a pain in the rectum. Like that means a lot,
and I can see why a lot of fan bases
(08:26):
would say that about him.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, and look, there was talked that you know, maybe
maybe Utah said, hey, we don't want to lose our
coach in waiting, and he's going to take another job
if we can't go ahead and make this move.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And you know, it's probably the right time.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean the thing about Kyle Whittingham in this last
couple of years, he couldn't keep his quarterback healthy, like
rising just he just got injured and injured.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, injured. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It's hard to see and hard to watch because of
how talented you knew he could be. But it's not
like Kyle Whittingham has been like surpassed and he's some
fossil that can't coach and all this other kind of stuff,
like none of that is the case. So if it
is like Kyle saying, oh, yeah, well, you know, he's
earned his shot, I can make a move. Maybe it's
maybe it's time for a change of scenery for me. Anyway,
(09:11):
I've done all I can do here. Let's let somebody
else do it. Well, there's no reason to think that's
not what's going to happen this time.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Either.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Let's say he is there five years, you don't think
he's gonna have somebody on that staff you like, and
the program will be in a position where it'll be
a much more appetizing job.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
One would think.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I mean, he's coming in at a perfect time because
they weren't great on the field this past year, and
then the stuff off the field was just just horrific.
And so you look at you look at what he's
coming into. He's gonna build this program into one that
I'd be shocked if they're not gonna be seen completely differently,
and that puts you in a good spot. And he's
(09:53):
going to have a staff. He's gonna have a staff
full of guys that you can trust and that you
like as well. So, I mean, I just think it's
this is a one sauce. Yeah, if you're a Michigan,
this is just and you're watching him against Texas today,
who cares?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Like if they lose, they lose. You're gonna be all
right in the future.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Like you you found the way to hit the lottery
after the powerball was already picked. You went and got
a ticket and still managed to come out of this
thing smelling gold like it. When I saw that name,
I was just like, I've been wondering about him for
years whether or not he would ever go anywhere else,
because you know, he's LDS and he loves Utah and
(10:30):
he's been there forever, and they're like, you stopped even
seeing his name on coaching lists when jobs open, not
because people didn't want him, but it was just like
he's just gonna stay there. It's like Mark Fugh is
not leaving Gonzaga. Kyle Whittingham's just gonna be at Utah.
And then that dude comes available and Michigan snags him.
That should terrify the rest of the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, And I like how we started off already where
he's like, all right, I'm not going to coach the
bowl game at Utah. Michigan really wanted to get him
there as quickly as possible, and so I like that. Right,
We've got the transfer portal window coming right up January
two to the sixteenth. So Kyle Whittingham, he's not finishing
(11:09):
everything out today right with Utah in the Las Vegas
Bowl they're taking on Nebraska, he's already getting started at Michigan.
So he's already dug in. And it looked like I
thought that Michigan maybe would just hire the interim head
coach Biff Pogi, who he was at Charlotte for a
little while, and I mean he had a couple of
(11:30):
games under his belt this season as the interim guy,
and I thought that might be the best they could do.
Is just higher Biff. Maybe it's for a year or two.
He's a bridge guy and at least he's familiar with
the program that sort of thing. But to get Kyle Whittingham,
I think that's an absolute shot in the arm. That's
way better than I thought they were gonna do with
the timing of it, and I think it's a great fit.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I think it's a great job by Michigan. I think
it works for both parties. But I also think that
he's got a big job to do record rooting their
own guys like that. Yes, that's what I want to
see Jason going forward, is you see all these rankings
when it comes to colleges and how much high school
talent they've gotten, right, Like, Hey, the Notre Dame's got
(12:13):
a high recruiting class. What I want to see going
forward are is also another list, which is, hey, how
many guys on the team were they able to recruit
and keep right? Like I want to see how how
many teams have kept the most talent not just coming in,
but staying on the squad and not going out right.
But that's gonna be a big job for Kyle Whittingham
(12:34):
here too. You gotta gotta recruit Brice Underwood. Got to
keep him there. Got to find a way to keep
your own guys as well as add to it with
the high school guys.
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That's what we got going on.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I want to talk more about that after the break.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
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of this show, I wanted to talk about it in
relation to the NFL. But now I'm gonna go ahead
and tip you off to this because this gives you
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Playoff and rank them in order of.
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Speaker 2 (16:38):
Gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Before the game tonight between Ohio State Miami but I
set you up for this before the break, VISTI you
would have time. Yeah, eight coaches, eight teams left in
the college football playoff. You let off with a couple
of questions about trust. Yeah, and so I want to
stick with that theory and stick with that idea, that paradigm,
if you will, and say, from eight to one, let's
(17:02):
rank the coaches remaining in a college football playoff based
on your trust level in them. So you don't have
to like go eight to one. We can kind of
banter back and forth after each one. But who do
you have the least amount of trust or faith in
on game day? Now that everything is set up, you know,
(17:23):
all the practice time is done.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Now it's time to get on the field.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Number eight, I would go Pete Golding. He's the errum
coach at Ole Miss and listen, man, it's just one
of these deals where it sounds like we're on the
same page, where hey, he might be a great coach
you know one day, but just like a player, it
takes reps. It takes time. Like he's the interim guy,
he's taking over for Lane Kiffen who left to take
the LSU job. It's a tough ask you're going up
(17:50):
against Kirby Smart and the Dogs in a quarterfinal college
football playoff game. Like, that's a lot to ask of
a guy who's a former defensive court and is now
just your interim head coach. So all these other guys,
the seven other head coaches, have a world of head
coaching experience that's greater than what Pete Golding has, So
(18:11):
he's got to be at the bottom from me.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I mean, look, he might be great, and he might
be the great. He may be better than Kiffin as
a head coach of Old Miss, But if you're asking
the question based on trust and faith, it has to
be him because you just don't have enough. There's not
enough data points to back it up, Like there's zero
evidence of any of it, so it would be straight
up blind faith based on absolutely nothing. I will say this,
(18:37):
the best story imaginable, like rip straight out of a
movie and straight on to like multiple thirty for thirties
is if Kiffen goes to LSU, largely because.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I don't think I can actually win a title in
Old Miss.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I could, I could probably get closed, but it's just
gonna be two hard year after year to try to
win if he goes to LSU and then Pete Golding
wins with that team, Like, imagine if they actually.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Won the national championship.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I don't think they're going to, by the way, but
what a story, because I feel like, do you think
ole Miss is just sympathetic? Like everybody's rooting for ole
Miss in a lot of ways right now because.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Everything that's happened has been out of their control.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And the more stories you've read with the players kind
of talking about the last month, Lane kind of being
checked out and you know, looking at the mistress instead
of the wife and all of that kind of stuff,
like it does like it's I can't imagine at this
point rooting against ole Miss, like because they've just kind
(19:40):
of had to play football around this circus.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, listen, I think that the first round smacking around
Tu Lane. I think most people were asleep at the
wheel when it came to that game, or they watched
a little bit of it and they're like, Okay, I
see where this is going.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
First off, he was like an eight yard touchdown. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So if they're able to beat Kirby Smart and Georgia,
that would really start some momentum of like, hey, let's
go Old Miss, Like maybe this is a great story,
no Lane Kiff, And they might be even hate rooting
for Old Miss just because they want Lane Kiffin to
look stupid for leaving, right, Like it could be part
of that too, is and I think of that. I
(20:22):
still think of Pete Golding as the interim guy. He's
the actual head coach.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
When I'm like, no, they don't have an interim tech.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
He was for a second and then they're like, you
know what, screw it. This probably the best we can do.
He's the head guy, but he doesn't have head coaching experience,
so yeah, he's at the bottom of the list for me.
And going up against Kirby, that's a man. If you're
thinking about a way, think about this. If you're putting
your list together of coaches that you trust, you can
very well have Kirby smart number one, Pete Golding number eight.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah could matchup. Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
So if you're looking at a you know, like laying
six and a half with the dogs, that might be
the way to go, might be the way to go
if you're breaking down the coaching matchups like this, all right,
so who do you have next?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Who do you have seventh in your list of trust
on the coaches in the college football Playoff Chris to Ball, Yeah,
I have the body.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
We're together there on that.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I think it's gonna get more interesting as we ca Yeah, dude, I.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Just just look at look at what's on the resume. Okay,
it's not just being tight and being conservative to a fault.
And look at a couple of guys. I'll tell you
what real fast Jason. As a Dolphins fan, I was
pleading with the football guides in the twenty twenty draft
for my fins to not draft Justin Herbert. And I
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watched every Oregon game I was in Portland. I talked
Ducks football the time. I watched every game, and I
didn't think Herbert was special at all based on how
Mario Christball misused him.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Dude, his final.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Year, Herbert's final year at Oregon was baffling. Like the
year before. He could be the number one pick, and
then he came back to school and then it was due.
This guy's gonna be a bust.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I beg. It's the NFL and he's borderline like
rookie Pro bowler.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
He's fantastic in the NFL. But Crystal Ball is so conservative,
so he coaches scared. It's so weird. As a former
offensive lineman, I would think it's almost like Dan Campbell
in a way where it's like, let's go, we're aggressive here,
we're gambling. It's not the way it is. And the
weird part about it is when they needed to be
conservative against Georgia Tech a couple of years ago, they
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have the game one. All you have to do is
kneel on the ball and run out the clock and
you win. And they didn't even do that. He's like,
let's run some running plays over here. They fumbled, Georgia
Tech scores a touchdown. It was a debacle. Mario Cristobal
cannot be trusted whatsoever. And that doesn't mean he's destined
to screw everything up, but it's as far as trust goes, no,
(22:52):
you can't trust him at all.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
All Right, So those two we completely agree on. I
feel like we probably will here too.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
But give me your number.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Six, Ryan Day, ah man, I could, I couldn't quite
get there, but yeah, yeah, I'm not shocked.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I'm not shocked the way I.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Think of Ryan Day. And I'm curious who your number
six coach? Is in the pyramid of trust. I love
this a great topic. I go Ryan Day because listen,
even though he's coming off of a national championship last season,
we've seen him get tight to a fault time and
time and time again. Can't beat Michigan time and time
and time again with the much more talented team. I
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just can't think about considering the late great bum Phillips,
fantastic former NFL coach, no longer with us, but he
has one of the famous quotes in all of football history.
He was talking about Don Shula, and he said he
can take his in and beat urine, and he can
take urine and beat his in, which means, if you
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translate the the bum Phillip bum Phillips vernacular, here, he's
saying he can take your team. He can take his
team and beat your team, and then he could also
take your team and beat his team. The latter is
something Ryan Day is completely incapable of doing. He can
take his team and beat your team and just out
talent you. He cannot take your team and beat his team.
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He can't take the lesser talented team and beat a
more talented team. He had a hard time doing the
first part of it against Michigan for years. So I
don't think highly of Ryan Day at all. He's way
too tight. He's way too conservative. You can feel it
as a team. The team gets tight in turn because
he's so tight. So yeah, I don't base this on
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winning a title last season. He's got some things in
his favor, no doubt, But overall, no, I think it's
more so the byproduct of great talent instead of great coaching.
So I've got him sixth on my list of trust.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
All right, So I've got maguire.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, And it's not because I think he's a bad coach.
It's just again, I don't know enough. I mean, he's
thirty five, seventeen at Texas Tech. There's nothing wrong with that.
We understand why Texas Tech is still in this thing.
We knew what they were doing before the season. I
had them in my playoff. I felt like this was
going to be an experiment that if it worked, holy cow,
are we gonna see. You know, at least, if you
(25:15):
where you have deep pockets, if you have the right
kind of enthusiasm, you're gonna see stuff like this. But
I mean, I just don't know enough about what he
looks like on this level against this kind of competition. Yeah,
I'm not counting them out. I do have them losing
to Oregon, but I mean the defense is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I just don't trust the offense quite as much. He
might be great, I just at.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
The very least I have seen Ryan Day win a championship.
I've seen him in pressure moments. That doesn't always reflect
the best on him to your point, but I just
I know a little bit more about Ryan Day to
do Joey McGuire.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
So that's why I would put McGuire six fair Enough,
I flip flopped him. I had Joeyah fifth on my
list for basically the same reasons you're talking about, where
he's done a really good job. They've had obviously a
phenomenal season. I just don't know enough about him come
playoff time and we're gonna get some answers here. So
it's more so the unknown with McGuire. So that's why
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I just put Ryan Day sixth and then McGuire fifth.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
On my list. Yeah, so I flipped him. Yeah, No,
it's fair that Day at five for.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Basically the same same reasons that you laid out. He's
definitely not somebody who built the program from nothing Like
he's somebody that at the very least you could say
he was on second with a big lead towards third,
but he was probably already on third.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Base when he took that job. Hadn't done a bad job.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But you can look, I feel like there are there's
at least a handful of coaches that could be in
the same spot as he's been and done almost.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Exactly what he's done. That's right, So I think that's
what it is.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I just don't know that he has like distinguished himself
as this gravitating or something.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
With the talent that they have with U.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And he has built a great staff, but you know,
you're losing a few of those guys now. So I
definitely agree with you and his decisions when it comes
to just being conservative in big games, that's a real concern. Like,
with the talent you have, you should be aggressive all
the time, it feels like to me, and he's just
not been that way. So, uh, we don't have to
(27:24):
belabor it just because you made good points about him.
So who do you have fourth?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Now? Is when it gets pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, I go Dan Lanning. I go with the Oregon
coach and listen, we're in the top half of trust,
so there's nothing wrong with being fort all these guys
are good. Yeah, I'd go with the Oregon head coach
where he's had a ton of regular season success. It's
just we haven't seen the playoff success. Obviously, they got
blown out of the water against Ohio State last season.
But what I like about Lanning is, look, he's a grinder,
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and I like it's like, I like the tone that
he sets where he's he takes things personally. You know,
I think it was a dumb quote, but I do
like that he's feisty. Where, yeah, they're getting ready to
play Colorado last year and he's like they're fighting for clicks,
we're fighting for wins. I thought that was totally unfair.
But he's feisty. Like he's like that that yappy dog
(28:15):
that's a little bit bigger than the you know, he's
not quite a chihuahua, you know, he's like a mid
sized dog that's yappy and like, what's up?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You want some of this? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Like that's that's Dan Lanning as a coach, and I
like that in terms of like a twelve team college
football playoff and trying to emerge from this take it
on Texas Tech. I think that serves you well overall.
It's just we got to see more playoff success. So
I'd have him fourth on my list.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Okay, so I would too, and it's mainly just because
I I want to see a couple more signature wins.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Out of his program.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Right, most of the best games I've seen him Kasher games,
they've lost.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And it's not because he's been bad.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm not including the Ohio State game that was just
I was insane last year at college Football Playoff, but
like the bad with Debor's Washington teams, the Indiana loss
this season, like he's done a good job and losses,
but they've lost most of those games.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I just want to see them.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
He's the guy I want to see take the next
step because I really like him.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I like the way he goes about what he does.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I like the confidence, borderline cockiness here and there, but
I think you kind of have to have a little
bit of that, and I like the way his teams play.
Him saying that we were below the standard because of
the second half against James Madison did have me roll
my eyes because it's not like the starters are in the.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Game at that point in time.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
And I just think that was an overblown storyline that oh,
this is getting close. I know it's really not. But yeah,
I'm not going there. But yeah, I've got Landing it
for as well.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But I like him.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
This is kind of the year where like, if they
can step up win a couple of the couple of
games from here, you might have a completely different feeling
about him. But I love that the way that he's
built that program, and I like them going forward. So
but I'm with you. So I've got him at four. Yeah,
who do you have at three?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I went Kaylin to Bore and a couple of things
with this. I like Kaylin a lot. What he did
at Washington very good, got to a championship game. They
crashed and burned against Michigan, but it's it's not a
mortal sin to lose to a Jim Harbaugh team that
was really good that season. And I look at Kaylin,
now what I like about him. He's aggressive, man, He
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is not shy of being maybe even overly aggressive. You
go back to the Iron Bowl against Auburn this season
and they're going for it on fourth and two, they
didn't take the points, they didn't take a field goal
to take the lead. They went for it on fourth
and two. If he doesn't get that first down, if
they don't get that first down, and somehow Auburn wins
(30:50):
that game, j Mart good lord, like they are ready
to not just get him out of town. They are
ready to like uh and his end and his days
here on earth is what they'd be ready to do.
So for him to make that gutsy of a call,
which was like borderline reckless, to not take the points
and go for it on fourth and two, it worked out.
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But he is not afraid at all to be public
enemy number one. He's like, I think this gives us
the best chance to win. So this is the decision.
This is the call. I really respect that about him.
It's more so what he has right now. Do I
trust him with no running game, wait man, no pass rush,
with a quarterback in ty Simpson who's been good most
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of this year.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
But he's not Michael Pennock Junior.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Right, that's right, and they're overly relying on him. He's
been skittish, he's been inaccurate down the stretch. I don't
trust him at all in this spot, so that's a
big part of it as well.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, so I agree with that, and I think that's
exactly the way to talk about it is. You can't
separate in a lot of these cases, but especially in
Alabama's case, you cannot separate the coach from what he
has on that team right now. And without jam Miller,
they haven't ever run it at all. But even with
Jam they haven't been that good. The old line has
not been good, the defense has not been as advertised. Uh,
(32:09):
you can have them a lot in the passing game,
and then yeah, Simpson played his best early in the season.
Actually probably during the middle of the seasons, probably when
he really kind of hit his stride. But I mean,
Ryan Williams has disappeared completely on that team.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I still think Debor de Bor is just a different
kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like when you listen to him and stuff, you like him,
you like him, you trust him, you like the way
he's doing things. But I think that's the difference between them,
is that when you look at, uh, some of these other.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Guys, the Bor just doesn't have the horses this year.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
That's right, I know, you look at you look at
that matchup with Indiana. You're like, but it's still Alabama.
It's like, yeah, it's Alabama in name only, it's not
this is not that same Alabama team.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I think I'm gonna hold off.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Okay, we're gonna go to break and we'll come back
and we'll do two in one, and then I have
at least one other question I want to pose to you,
like just based on something we talked about the last
time we hosted together. So two and one, honestly, you
could say two and one, you're arguing between maybe the
two best coaches in the sport.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Period at this point. Yeah, at least I think it's arguable.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
There's a couple other guys you might want to throw
in there that didn't make the College Football Playoff. Don't
want to open up wounds about notre name, but Marcus
Freeman's definitely a good coach.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
No other guys, and we already talked about winning haam.
But we'll do that.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
On the other side, if you've ever wanted to try
an Olympic and Paralympic sport, you should try fencing. It's fast,
it's safe, it's easy to start. Find a beginner class.
That's what's important to me because I don't know if
they're gonna hand me any kind of a weapon if
it's not a very beginner class.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But I'm gonna look into USA fencing.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Go to USA Fencing dot org slash try fencing. That's
USA Fencing dot org slash try fencing. So we're down
to two. Is it's Signetti or Smart that you trust
the most of the coaches remaining in the college football Playoff.
We will decipher that and get you an answer when
we come back. It's Two Pros and a Cup of
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Speaker 2 (34:57):
All right, two coaches left.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
We ranked eight to two of the college football playoff
coaches that we trust the most, and we are down
to two.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It's Kurt Signetti and it is Kirby Smart.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
What I want to know is that the anti Indiana
pro Notre Dame bias is going to come out here.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Oh man, yeah, now, Notre Dame. I'm totally cool with you.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You know, I'm just trying to throw some fuel on
a non existent fire.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Right there you go.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I like, so, who do you have at number two?
Number two?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I went Signetti?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah you did, because you're a Notre Dame hall and
we all know it.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
No, no, no, I went with Signetti for a couple
of reasons. One, listen, it's almost all positive. You look
at what he's done. He took over for a program
Jason that in the final three years before he got there,
their record was nine and twenty seven. And what has
he done? He turned him around instantaneously. First year they
(35:55):
went to the playoff. Second year they not only made
it back to the playoff one seed that's undefeated and
they have the Heisman winner. Pretty good for an encore,
right there. Yes, yes, And you could look at this
and say he doesn't have one playoff win yet, right,
And that's true. He doesn't have that, and that's one
of the main reasons I don't have him number one
on this list. But I'll tell you what. There was
(36:16):
one time I drove through Oklahoma and the sky was
just turning black, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this
looks like the movie Twister, Right, there's a storm coming, man, Like,
I didn't have to be a resident of Oklahoma to
know that a storm was a bruin, you know. And
that's how I feel about Signetti. I don't have to
see playoff success to know that playoff success is coming,
(36:40):
and a lot of it I think is coming for
him this season. So I've got him number two mostly
for great reasons. The only reason I slat him under
Kirby Smart, who's won two titles, is because Signetti doesn't
have one playoff win, So I can't put him number one.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Do you know how easy it would have been for
Indiana to have just been like, oh, that was a
good story last year. Thanks for showing up against Notre Dame.
Uh that's gonna be good for Indiana fans for the
next fifty years.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And well you'll see this again.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Do you know how easy it would have been for
them to just go right on back into the background.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh, it would have been so easy, been so easy.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
They came back. They are significantly better than they were
last year. And they were good, really good last year.
But like, this is no longer like some cute story.
This is a uh oh, we might actually have to
take this seriously for a very long time. I've got
Signetti number two as well. But this is my title
(37:36):
game in my bracket. I've got this, and it actually
comes down to it doesn't come down to the coaches,
because I trust both of them, and like we said,
I trust Debor quite a bit, Landing I trust quite
a bit. And I think there is a tier list,
and I think that that's probably where it stops for me.
I think at that point there's there's a drop off
(37:57):
before you get four to five. But there's nothing Signetti
has done wrong other than he just hasn't quite had
enough time to show me on this stage what he
can do. So we're gonna see that potentially this year.
So that obviously means we both have Kirby Smart number one.
I'll just say the biggest reason for me isn't the
(38:18):
fact that he's already done this a few times. It's
that his decisions as a coach, specifically even in games
this year, the Old Miss game turned because the first
time they played because he got super aggressive, he pulls
fakes out, like there's just stuff that he does where
(38:39):
it's just like he completely turned the momentum of that game.
And it wasn't just because the players executed. It's because
he had the guts to trust them enough that he
put them in situations where it's like, hey man, we've
got to pull this thing off or this is gonna
look real bad. I just love the aggressive nature and
the craftiness, yeah, with which.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
He's a very shrewd coach.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
With the way that he performs on the sidelines, and
that is a rare skill.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, the reasons I have him number one, it's it's
not just the resume and winning a couple of titles,
which obviously matters a ton, It's that his personality is
the team's personality, you know, his fingerprints are all over
this team and they just battle.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Man, he is a feisty guy. He's like a bulldog.
He's like a bulldog coaching the Bulldogs. And that's how
they play, that's how they behave. They just will. Like
the Tennessee game, it looked like they didn't have a
chance to win that game, and they just keep coming
after you and then maybe they hit a pass and
maybe they get a stop, and maybe they're right back
in it, maybe they win it at the end of
the day. He's just he's phenomenal. He said it before
(39:50):
this year. It's my favorite quote, We're hard to kill,
and Oklahoma loved it so much they ripped it off
of him and try to make it their whole thing.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And then also the last thing, the defense looks so
much better throughout the season. That is the trademark of
great coaching. They didn't just get new players, they didn't
go to the portal mid season. They looked really bad
at the beginning of the year. They looked so much better.
They punked Alabama in the SEC title game. Their defense
looks so much better, And that's a trademark of great
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