August 15, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason and Buck fill-in for the guys, diving into Rashee Rice suspension case being delayed, alien conspiracy theories, Michael Porter Jr.’s take on sports gambling among players and how guardrails are actually working. Plus, some Over/Unders!
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All the way down to my core. I do not
believe that the NFL is sitting down trying to figure
out how to give the Kansas City Chiefs an advantage
over your favorite team. But I also believe that the metrics,
the eyeballs, all of these things, along with some actions
by the league, feed the perception. The question is what
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this comes from her she Rice. His hearing will be
on the thirtieth. It is likely at this point he
will play at least the first four games because of
the timing of his hearing and the suspension that he
will be facing for his accident and issue. But remember
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he played guilty the same day that Jordan Addison did.
Jordan Addison is already facing his three games suspension, which
has everybody from fans to pro football talk saying this
looks suspicious and it just feeds a conspiracy theory conversation
about whether or not the league is biased towards the Chiefs.
Now you said earlier, I spent too much time on
social media. I will at least point out I'm a
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Raiders fan all the way to my core. Everybody knows that, right,
you can't grow up a Raiders fan without just hearing
institutionally the league has it out for Vegas. I do
not believe, and I say this all the time. A
Raiders fans hate it. I don't believe the league has
it out for the Raiders. They don't need to have
it out for the Raiders. Like teams that suck just suck,
like the league doesn't have to help the team suck.
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It's just the fact is the Raiders are cash grab
and they're a rating skinner. So I genuinely believe the
NFL actually likes it better when the Raiders are good. Now,
for years I heard well officials have it out for
the Raiders, and I actually asked Jack del Real when
we worked together at ESPN. I got my job at ESPN,
I'm working with them all the time. I saw them
on the morning show, pulled them aside on the halls,
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and I said, Jack, do you believe that the officials
have it out for the Raiders? And he said no.
What I do know is that officials are assigned to
the matchups based on the quality of the matchup and
the quality of teams playing it. So when you are
usually a bad football team and you are playing other
teams that are usually bad, you end up with the
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least experienced or the least the lowest graded officiating group.
Happens all the time, So I believe what happens is
is Jack telling me this, educating me this in the
halls of ESPN. I do believe that sometimes fans think
that there's a bias, when in fact it's just get
you get worse refs that just happens. We don't think
of that sort of context any of this conversation. Richie's
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a really good example. He's going to face a suspension,
but not until he goes through this hearing. Well, according
to some reports, the hearing is happening because the NFL
already suggested a penalty and the Chiefs and the player
don't agree with it, so now they're going to an arbiter,
Like we don't know that that happened with Jordan Addison.
And that's why I don't buy into any of these series,
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Like guess what nobody has to give the Chiefs an advantage.
They're really stinking good. They win games well.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And the other part of this is like, are you
willing to pursue whatever tools or whatever paths are at
your disposal, like you know, pushing back on the league's
penalty and going through the independent arbitrator process and potentially
expanding the window here. There are well run organizations that
will have good advice on these things, and we'll take
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advantage of whatever tools are at their disposal. It's kind
of like when we have off season discussions fitsie each
and every year. And I don't know how much of
this you do on national radio, but certainly on the
local show.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
God knows.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
We try to become capologists every free agency period. But
you have what you have at your disposal, which is,
you know, a fair amount of resources at this point
in time. Places like SPA Track and over the Cap
do a really nice job helping to inform everybody so
that fans, media and everybody else externally can have a
more a fuller picture of how teams actually go about this.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
But of course we don't have every level of detail.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
On what it is to maneuver the cap, all the
different loopholes that exist for lack of a better term,
that would allow teams to move money around or to
make sure to get creative with the finances, to make
sure that they can fit certain contracts under their cap,
or things like void years that I didn't know existed
until Drew Brees became a thing, or Tom Brady started
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to use them with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers during his
time here as he was trying to build more competitive
teams or working with the Bucks to build more competitive teams.
There's all manner of things that teams have at their disposal,
all manner of things that lie in the rules and regulations,
in the fine details of the NFL's the NFL's governing body,
that would allow you to take advantage of things like this.
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And if the Chiefs are doing it better than the
Vikings are, or using something at their disposal that the
Vikings don't necessarily have, Yes, the optics of it externally
looks suspicious. But again, in all of these conversations context matters,
we cannot possibly have the full extent of information because
we are not in each and every one of these
meeting rooms and not taking detailed notes and each of
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each and every one of these hearings. The way that
people want to just throw their hands up in the
air be frustrated by it because it's easier to do
and send out a tweet about the league's conspiring against
every other team that's not named the Kansas City Chiefs,
or conspiring in favor of the Kansas City Chiefs, because
that's frankly the lazier version of it. It takes more time, effort,
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and energy to actually worm your way through all the
different reasons why this would become a thing, rather than
assuming the lowest common denominator, which is the league is
biased for the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I years ago was having a conversation with Jim Dapolis,
who on Twitter I think is ref Jim d and
he was a long time ref in the NFL, and
we were just sitting back shooting that you know, up
and talking about blown calls and just moments, right, And
I asked him what he thinks about the most in
his career as we were talking, and he literally is
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He's sitting next to me, was getting emotional. He's like,
I still remember, and he started recounting different games where
he blew a call and he's like the impact that
that has on so many lives when you blow a call.
And I walked away from that thinking so much about
the narrative we have around officials, right, and this concept
that well, that official is obviously biased for Patrick Mahomes.
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And then it doesn't get easier when you see the
micd up stuff and you hear quarterbacks talking to the
rest and they're joking around, and like you got a
rev asking Joe Burrow where you know where he got
his swords from? And people are like, see that ref
is obviously no, Like I think.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
God forbid.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
They have human conversations like each and every one of
us would on any given day at our jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, and then we just presumed that suddenly that official
can't shut off whatever he thinks and just do his
job like he's again, I go back to feeding little timmy, right,
Like that official is going to be graded based on
his performance in that game, which is going to impact
whether or not he gets playoff games, which impacts whether
or not he gets the Super Bowl, and every one
of those games gives him a cash bonus. So like, yes,
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if I could just you know, maybe all of the
other guys, if I could dedicate my life to becoming
an official just so I could screw the Chiefs, the
Broncos or the Chargers out of a Super Bowl, I
would do that. That's why I shouldn't be an official,
right Like I would, I'd walk out in there and
be like, jokes on, you pass interference, you lost the
Super Bowl, And then I should rip my official off.
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I'd rip my official jersey off, and underneath it would
be my Raiders' shirt and I would evil, maniacal laugh
all the way out like that, I would do that.
I'm not a professional, right, Like, officials work so hard
for so long, and then we sit down in this
weird society where we can take it frame by frame
and we suddenly decide. Like I was playing in an
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adult kickball league and got into a just massive argument
with the first place base on because I don't think
that the bunt had to go pass the line between
first and third. He was wrong, and I'm ripping him up.
And I realized, like, this is kickball. Nobody cares think
about what we do to NFL officials, to NBA officials,
every single time we see this frame by frame, like
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God forbids, somebody missed one call. Then all of a
sudden it's like, well, the league's paying them. Are you
buying any of this?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
There's too much money involved to think that the league
would do anything like this intentionally, especially now that the
gambling dollars are all over the place.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
That's that, and that's a conversation that we can have,
you know, sports wide here a little later with the
Michael Porter Junior stuff as we as we work our
way through this morning on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
But no, I'm not buying any of it.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I I get so fed up with the level of
discourse around these things that I, Fitzy, it's probably a
bad quality of mine. But I was talking yesterday about
you responding to tweets that we were getting when we
filled in Forgotlieb about whatever Shadoor opinion you had, and
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somebody spun it out on Twitter because they heard one thing.
They heard whatever they wanted to hear you say, because
you invoke the name, and that's a polarizing name. The
Chiefs are a polarizing topic, especially when it comes to
the objectivity or perceived lack thereof, that the NFL has
and how much you know, how much they're all over
the place, and how much success they've had, and all
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the different things that success breeds that I just shut
out so much of this stuff. I'm so happy to
ignore every conspiracy theory that has thrown my way because
I don't I don't. I know it's not true, Like
I know it's not true, Fitzy. Every year, when when
you cover a team as a beat reporter the way
that I do with with the Titans when officials come in,
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when the when the teams bring officials into officiate training
camp to kind of get guys in the mindset of all, right, well,
this would be a penalty in a normal situation. We're
gonna we're gonna help you guys that are adjusting to
rule changes that we have each and every year that
the league votes on.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
What have you.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Every year they go out of their way, the officials
when they come to town to offer the media the opportunity
to sit through essentially a lecture about all the different
rule changes or how officials are viewing these things, frame
by frame examples of plays that are called, and not
just showing examples of correct calls, but showing examples of
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mistakes that were made in the same way that the
NBA has, like the Final two Minute Report and stuff
like that. Now, for all the good that the Final
two Minute Report does, when you're throwing your hands up
in the air and yelling about miscalls, because there is
still human air, and I think we have mitigated as
much of the human error as humanly possible, especially when
we're talking about the the I can't remember what the
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exact term is for the for the GPS tracking that
we now have in the football to determine the exact
spot as opposed to just relying on you know, a
bunch of sixty year olds who are working a chain
gang on a weekend and things like that. But we've
narrowed it down and continue to fine tune it to
such a such a point that it almost takes some
of the drama and some of the fun out of
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those those dramatic moments, those those moments that are filled
with suspense that do matter a great deal. But there again,
there is so much money involved in each and every
play and each and every snap and each and every
player prop that gets hit or doesn't get hit, that
people want to turn it into something that it's not,
when in reality, there's no way for these things to
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be perfect. There's simply no way for these things to
be perfect. So whatever you assume about what an official
is doing in favor or against a particular team because
you believe there to be slats, like, how many actually
documented cases of an official fixing results have there been
in the last twenty years?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I mean since since what's what's the NBA officials name
that was.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Fixing games Donegie Tim Tim donaghie, right, the most famous
example of that. Like not to say that it couldn't
ever happen, or that an environment exists that it could
never happen, but like the percentage chance that those things
are actually taking place and that it's just going on
in the league as willing to turn a blind eye
is so impossibly ignorant that I just don't know how
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people can get themselves in that mindset.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
There's a event every year at ESPN called the College
Football Seminar, and they bring every single person that covers
rights or talks about college football and any capacity into
one room. A few years ago, I was at that seminar.
I was at that seminar many times, but one year
I was at that seminar and the officials came up
and they were educating the entire room, hundreds of people
on targeting. And so they played the plays and they
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explained targeting, and then they showed us replays over and
over and over again, and then we essentially took a
quiz as a group to try and figure out from
what we were just taught what was and what wasn't
targeting and when I tell you that no more than
sixty seventy percent could ever agree on any play, and
we were wrong all the time. We sat there and
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got a second by second, frame by frame explanation. And
that's why every time I see somebody on TV tell
me definitively, oh that's targeting or oh that's definitely not targeting,
I laugh because I've sat in the room with the
everybody from Kirk kurb Street all the way down to
a production assistant you've never heard of, all being quizzed
on it, and we couldn't get it right. It's it's
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there is nothing exact about the inexact science of officiating.
There is something, though, you just mentioned about gambling that
I think is key. There is one reason why we
should actually look at all of the gambling controversy as
a great thing for sports. I'll tell you what that
is next.
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August buck. Let me let me ask you this. Aliens.
We enter out on aliens, I mean, just in general,
I'm not much of it. I'm not a conspiracy theorist
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at all. I don't really care, and so are you?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
In aliens exist? Where are we on this one?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
They have to, right, I mean, what what is the oh,
here we go? What is what is the definition of
intelligent life?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
You know?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I mean would you human beings be considered intelligent life?
I'm sure somebody else the world would think. Yeah, correct, Lorena,
absolutely correct.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
If this, if.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
The last hour and a half or less than an
hour and a half of radio is evidence of anything,
it is that human beings are not overwhelmingly intelligent. And
I'm referencing mostly fits in myself, but yeah, I'm I
I believe that there. However, you would define another life
form elsewhere in the vastness that is the universe.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
We can't possibly be the only things out here.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
With with the level of quote unquote intelligence that we
assign ourselves.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Surely not. If so, the universe is doomed.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But are they among us?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
That is the question? Now, Lee you you are you
are a proponent of this? Yes?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Well yeah, look at the ocean, Look at octopus. Look
at their das an alien First, they all have DNA.
That's uh, that is defined kind of as alien. It's
unlike any other DNA on the planet.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well, like, that's not as much fun if it's an
alien that we can't talk to or like, like, I mean,
just an alien floating around the waters.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
You should watch Octopus, teacher. There's a bond between the
director and the octopuses. I mean there is communication. Doesn't
have to be our kind.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Well, and do the do the OCTOPI I believe in
do they do?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
They do?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
They find us to be unintelligent because they are trying
to communicate with us and we are speaking some kind
of gibberish to them.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And do we keep eating them and deep frying them? Well,
they are delicious, they do, Like, No, octopus are not
delicious at all. I look, I'm a little dumbounded here.
Like the concept is supposed to be this alien was
so advanced that they found their way to Earth from
God knows where, which can't be an easy thing to do,
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only to then be susceptible to simply being caught in
deep fried and eaten like that just feels like there's
a disconnect somewhere where. So why in every alien movie
do they always land in like New York? Like, if
I'm an alien and I'm looking at the globe, if
I'm gonna land my spaceship somewhere, I'm probably gonna pick
an area with a bunch of like open land, Like
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what wouldn't you just Egypt? There's plenty of room there, Like,
I just don't understand why they always land in a
in a city of some salts.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Send them to my homeland. Don't put that all. Get
out of here.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
And that's my point about Octimus, though, is that you know,
the the odds are that they would land in an ocean.
They're probably just some spore, thank you, Octopi, some spore
on an asteroid that landed in the ocean millions and
years years ago.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And here we are well.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And also FITSI the hubris of you, the entitlement of
you to think that they weren't here first, Like, well
you are.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
The one gentrifying there the other way around, all right.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, I mean here again loudly, I want to say,
I feel like there's probably a pretty good chance aliens exist.
I just don't care. Like if I find out today
that my three best friends are aliens, well they were
my three best friends yesterday. They'll still be my three
best friends tomorrow. Like if you were an alien all
this time, you didn't have the power to make the
raiders better than Like what was really like your powerless alien.
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I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
No, no, no, alien does not connote superpower. Like what
are you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Well, I mean, if you're powerful enough to get to
this world, you're supposed to have some advanced something, right,
So now you're telling me that like aliens just sort
of happen stanced over here, and they're just like taking
over sections of the land and they're just like, you know,
like just squatters, squatters rights on aliens. I want them
to be here for a purpose. They're supposed to be
here for advancement or a battle or something, not just
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like hanging out.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Purpose of advancement. Would you say that you're here for bud.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Oh no, no, no, I'm but I'm not an alien,
right like the aliens coming here would be the strong
disagree m that. Look, I just just I might be
a vampire. Like just because I look particularly young from
my age doesn't mean I'm actually an alien.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Botox does not mean you're a vampire.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Oh, only one of us has had botox? Are you
related to Jonas? Uh? The the look buck out here
throwing botox shade? By the way, Puck, how old are you, buddy?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
How uh? Thirty two? A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Thirty two. You are, I am old enough to be
your dad and have not yet had any injection put
in my face. Thank you very much, So.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Every three months, baby, Wow two.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Do aliens get botox? Or do aliens do the botox?
I see this is where this is where people driving
themselves crazy with this.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I think the botox is the alien life form.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Uh nothing, nothing, nothing derived from humanity can can hold
you together that well, I think the botox is the alien.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I'll let the aliens figure it out. We'll figure out gambling.
He's buck rising up, Jason fitzbucking well. I mean we'll
try and figure out.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Don't don't give him, don't give him the golf clap
for that. That was not as good at tease as
he wanted it to be.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Wow, this is this is We're barely an hour a
half into this and mommy and daddy are fighting on
a morning. It's Friday morning. How can we be this
snippy on a Friday morning? What you mean?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I've just I've just started to wake wake up after
an hour and a half of radio. Now now I
can get to you know, Now I can be me
a little bit and you go, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's what I'm saying. An hour and a half in. Now,
now I'm really feeling it now, so I'm now, I'm awake.
Now I'm I'm ready to rock. Now I can gain
more of me instead instead of this you know, sleepy
dope that just rolled out of bed.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
You know you screaming about Shador's sanders at me.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Okay, So to recap, you said your words were not
slurred in the first hour because you went out. You
said that you went to Magic City Wings or Magic
City for the Wings and only the Wings that you
stayed in last night. And now suddenly it's seven thirty
Eastern time. Now you're feeling froggy. Now you're feeling awake
and glorious. But there was no reason that you were
tired when the show started.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
There in a hanging.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Listen, I have had six damn days here in Atlanta
to go get my strip club wings, and I have
taken full advantage at this point in time. No, I
I waddled downstairs to the God help the people that
are that are also staying in this hotel that I've
just been screaming into a microphone in my room. For
for the last five or five or six days straight
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having to hear Shador Sanders rants and conspiracy theories about
the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
No.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I waddled downstairs to the to the common area. I
got my cup of coffee in a banana. I've my
headache that I woke up with has dissuaded. And not
because I'm hungover because of the strip club wings, but
because for some reason, Fincy, I just wake up with
a with a not a hangover with with a headache anymore.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I don't know what to do about that.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Perhaps I should be taking advantage of the fine people
at Mattress Firm that way.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Maybe you should, you know, instead of uber eats stripper wings,
maybe you eat your way, maybe be your way over
to a gym and just work that out, buddy, and
then you'll feel better. You'll sweat it out. Just got
a lot of I'm dripping with judgment and the look
I'm getting from book rising.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Right now, I don't want to hear you dripping with anything.
Oh God, whatever the hell is holding up your alien
life form hair.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It's perfect already, you know, just wakes up this way.
Now you get to see it, Okay.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
So look like you got electrocuted. Maybe wakes up this way.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, well this is what happens. Look, you come at me, buddy,
Come at me, see me when you're almost fifty, and
we'll figure out if your hair looks this good, buddy.
Let let we'll just we'll figure that out.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I will have taken three trips to Turkey to make
sure my hair looks that good.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
By then that is that is fus.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, just you're gonna start saving up for that trip.
Now that's that's the way it's done. I'll use my
gambling winnings to get there. And gambling has me thinking
about Michael Porter Junior, who I'm I'm a little man.
I'm a little shooketh that Michael Porter Junior, who I
love the fact that he just says what is on
his mind when he's on his mind. But he was
on one night with Steiny the podcast and he talked
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about sports gambling with his friends, and look, it's pretty
staggering when he starts talking about the advantage that it
can create when you can just look at your buddies
and say, hey, you know what, maybe play the under tonight.
And then you get injured and like your one buddy
can make ten grand, and another buddy can make ten
Brandon grand, and he's talking about this buck, and I
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just I'm stunned because I cannot believe that a player
in the league doesn't understand the systems that are in
place to catch that exact thing, like if any sports
but there's a national register that looks at all bets
that are placed if any sports books. He's an unusual
amount of activity being placed on the under of Michael
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Porter Junior for you know, ten thousand dollars and there's
five or six bets on it, and they see it.
There isn't a chance in hell that doesn't get flagged.
Like these are the moments that I keep looking at
everybody saying, hey, the gambling issue when it comes to players.
The fact that we're getting people flagged all the time
shows you that the guardrails are actually working.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Let me let me hear the full or the audio context.
If I could lay from the One Night with Steiny podcast.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
You get mad at these dudes like they do the
sports betting, but think about it, if you could get
all your homies rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand
dollars on my under, you know, this one game, I'm
gonna act like I got an injury and I'm I'm
gonna sit out. I'm gonna come out after three minutes
and they all get a little bad because you did
it one game like that is so not okay. But
(25:34):
some people probably think like that. They come from nothing
and all their homies have nothing, and they're like, Bro,
if I if I come out of this game after
three minutes and y'all all hit on my under we're
all getting a little bad, you know what I mean.
And I obviously my brother went through his situation. You know,
Malik Beasley's going through a situation right now. Terry Rozier
was in some hot water. But the whole sports gambling
(25:54):
like entity, Bro, it's it's it's bad, and it's it's
only gonna get worse. Bro, Like we we really do
get death threats, so that is courtesy.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
That's Michael Porter Junior on the One Night with Steiny
podcasts discussing and he talked about a variety of different subjects.
This is a pretty pretty interesting listen if you haven't
caught the full podcast yet. He also talked about like
dating in NBA circles and the impact of gambling on that,
but is is larger point about the betting impact going
(26:26):
to get worse, and you know how much of this
has detracted from the integrity of the game or the
enjoyment of the game, specifically on the professional athletes sides
Like I, I don't disagree with him, especially when you're
you've got so many these these gambling entities that are
(26:48):
promoting themselves on college campuses and things like that, and
they're there are the instances are few and far between,
like the guardrails to your point, and I believe you
mentioned this earlier, or if not, you've you've mentioned off
air or in previous shows that we've done together, that
the system is working to make sure that we catch
these things and there are very few and far between
(27:09):
instances that these things are actually happening. So it's just
are you Are you smart enough to avoid the temptation
of what of what Michael Porter Junior has just described there,
Even though yeah, it sounds all pretty routine, it could
cost you what ten grand you could make for you
and your buddies if you're faking an injury and hitting
you're under, or betting you're under and faking an injury
(27:30):
and then making sure that that under hits you cost
yourself so much more in the long term as far
as earnings. How could you possibly rationalize it that way?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Like, I get that, and.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Ten thousand dollars is not an amount of money to
turn your nose up at, even if you're a professional athlete.
But like that logic to me what he's describing it,
it simply does not make sense, especially when you talk
about the NBA and the amount of money that even
fringe like you know, seventh or eighth guys off the
bench are making relative to ten thousand dollars, that's a
(28:04):
drop in the bucket.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
That's couch that's couch cushion change.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, that's the the hard part about this is again,
there are national systems.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It's funny. I like to watch old Law and Order
and you know, the like the early nineties.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Original law were making new law and orders.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, they still make law order. Yeah yeah, you can't
stick Yeah, no, of course it's not peacock like I
haven't gotten I listened to Law and Order. I literally
listened to Law and Order every day while I'm in
the gym. That's it. I don't like rage music when
I work out, and so I just like to go
into like a weird spot where like I don't think,
and I've watched every episode of the old Law and Order,
so I just started season one earlier this year. I'm
(28:42):
up to like season seven now. So yeah, there's new
new seasons. But the funny thing is I literally saw
an episode from I think season four or five where
one of the new cops was having to teach everybody
how to use email and the internet because they didn't
even realize that existed. And part of what they're starting
to do in these old season and say, hey, we
can cross reference to this person and see if they're
(29:03):
wanted in another state, because that didn't really exist in
an easy way in the early nineties. If you're you know,
if you're a junkie for true crime and serial killers,
you'll see that. Back in the seventies and eighties, like
they would be all over the place, and because there
wasn't an easy way for anybody to communicate from Washington
to Florida, it became really hard to catch people like
Ted Bundy. Like that's because technology didn't exist the way
(29:26):
that it exists today. Well, now technology is such that
gambling is the databases that exists for regulation exists nationally.
So even if you've got one body over here in
Maine and one body over here in Wisconsin and you're
telling them to put that ten thousand dollars out, it
is going to cause a flag. And this is where
I come back to, you know, my childhood. I grew
(29:48):
up in Las Vegas as a kid, and my parents
were both casino managers. And you know, I remember when
we left Vegas, everybody would always ask my parents, like
we'd be sitting around with you know, friends and friends, family,
and it was always all man, you know, casinos they cheat,
don't they. Now this is you know, post mob era
or the mob are a very different post mob ere
And I so distinctly remember my mom, who's always been
(30:09):
blunting in communication, saying, no, casinos don't have to cheat
because people are stupid. And the whole point that she
constantly made is that regulations exist where everything is tracked,
and you can't cheat in a casino even if you
want to, because it's not worth the risk. Casinos are
so wildly regulated, just like sports gambling is all you
(30:29):
gotta do is rely on people to lose self control
and so when the advantage always goes to the house,
eventually people will make a bet they shouldn't make, and
the house always wins. There's a reason those big fancy
casinos exist in Vegas. The house always wins. Like DraftKings
isn't here taking bets because most people get the best
of DraftKings. They're taking bets because they're making money hand
over fist. So all of these companies are making money
(30:50):
because most people are out there just playing parlay after
parlay after parlay, and they show you the one ticket
that won, but they don't show you the one hundred
tickets that lost over the course of the year.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That's that's the way this whole gambling thing works. So
for athletes that are sitting here saying, oh, I'm gonna
go make ten grand for my friend because I have
insider information, at what risk, at what costs? Because the
regulations will find you and they have found them. Like
the reason that two Cleveland Guardians pitchers are under investigation
is because you can't do these things without people figuring
out quickly, especially if there's any real money. So if
(31:22):
you're placing any actual dollars on any of this, it's
simply going to flag somebody, and if you're not placing
any actual dollars on it, then it's not worth the risks.
So I just think that we're turning something that's actually
being positively regulated into some sort of a massive chaos,
like massive crisis that I just don't think exists.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
You know what I think is more detrimental to athletes
than the gambling environment right now, go on podcast appearances,
listen as people who's speaking to microphones for a living.
(32:02):
I acknowledge that we are guilty of oversharing, but like
some of these, some of these conversations that are being
had by athletes where where you would never never in
a million world, in a million years, FITZI. You know,
I do postgame locker room stuff all the time. As
a beat reporter. I cover a team on a day
(32:24):
to day basis. I'm in the locker room probably four
days a week. In press conference settings like these things
would never be said in front of media that way.
And yet you know, an athlete gets in a podcast
setting in a situation where they're probably surrounded by people
that they trust far more than you know, the media
vultures like myself, and things like that, and they overshare
(32:46):
or share some of the most bird brain stuff you've
ever heard. I think, I think that the podcast appearances
and how many people have these different platforms that will
get aggregated like this far more detrimental to the to
the to the well being of these of these athletes
(33:07):
than anything else, because you, even if you believe some
of this stuff, or even if you are feeling this
type of way, like there is there is something to
the oversharing of it that will that will allow your
words to be twisted or or give your words more
meaning than you actually intended them to have, because your
words do matter, and now they're being documented and literally
(33:28):
every platform. And I'm not against people having podcasts, like
I like hearing more transparency from athletes. I like I
like getting a better look at how they actually feel,
because God knows, they're not willing to share it with
a lot of us who are asking them these questions
on a day to day basis. And and you know,
most of it well intentioned. Some some people are out
to get you for for clickbait and otherwise, but just
(33:50):
I find it so funny that athletes are so guarded
in certain settings and then you know they sit down
on a on a couch with a couple of sure mics,
and and all of a sudden, it's it's everything's fair
game and no rules apply, and logic and reason don't
actually matter here.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You forget where you are sometimes. The very first digital
livestream show that I did at ESPN at the time
with Mina Kimes, like, there was a bunch of us
for the NFL and we were live and we were
not on any sort of a delay because we're all pros.
We've all done TV and radio and there's no big deal.
Thirty seconds in, Mina drops an F bomb because and
she immediately says, she's like, I'm so sorry, but like
(34:27):
we were all sitting on the couch just shoot, like
it felt like the night before when we were sitting
on you know, Michael of Junior scouch having the same conversations.
This time there were just microphones and you forget, And
that is that is absolutely part of this. Like you
get comfortable, and when you're comfortable, you say something maybe
maybe you shouldn't. One thing that I'm certain of is
when you get comfortable, it's always good time to eat
(34:48):
some free hamburgers. Free hamburgers have taken Baseball black stom.
We'll tell you about it next. Yeah, yeah, what what?
What are you looking at me like?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
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Are we doing that?
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Next? Oh? We could do?
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Speaker 5 (34:59):
I didn't you want to?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You never responded to the group text this morning asking
about it. I don't know what this? Would you rather?
The best game show in the history of sports talk
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Speaker 6 (36:24):
Rather?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
It's easy? Guys, don't think too hard on Would you
rather bucket, touch or fix it? All right, Producer Lee's
gonna come in, give us a question. We'll figure out
would we rather Lee?
Speaker 5 (36:37):
What do you go for us?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (36:39):
Would you rather have your name forever misspelled on your
Hall of Fame plaque or be remembered only for your
blooper real?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Remember those old NFL folly films?
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Brother, I covered Will Levis for a season.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
All I know is is miscues and gaffs and memes
from a from a whole NFL season.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Man, that's a.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I would probably rather have my name misspelled, like I
could get over that. People are gonna misspell my name anyway,
and honestly, they'd probably pronounce it correctly more often if
it was misspelled, because rising is spelled r E I
s I n G, And more often than not, I
(37:22):
hear people call it.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Recing or reestling, like the lines I might do that.
It's okay, there's nothing wrong with it. I get it.
It's human error.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
So maybe the mispronunciation would act or the misspelling would
actually lead to better pronunciation.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
You know, you could just change the way your last
name is spelled for purposes and being on air would
make life easier. Oh, my last name is only fits
f i Tz. That's it. It's not Fitzgerald, fitz him as,
not any of those things. It's only Fits. The amount
of mail I get for Jason Fritz Frigz always makes
me laugh, But like that feels fitting to me. It
feels appropriate that you would have a hall of fame.
(37:56):
But if I ever had a hall of fame, black
for anything, my name should be misspelled. I'll go with
the miss spelling.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Buckling and Jason Fritz.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I think you should be only fits fans man feet
mixed coming at.
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a hand model.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
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OnlyFans the models make on their feet, I look down
at mine. I'm like, yeah, fitz feet Maybe that's what
like FITZI feet feet by fits, I don't know, Like
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if things get My toes are going out on only
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Speaker 7 (38:39):
Would you rather have to use only sports commentary, catchphrases
and voice in every conversation or only be able to
answer questions in the form of stadium chants?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Oh, answer answer questions in the form of stadium chants,
because that will just absolutely infuriate my co host. Like
if every time he's like, what do you want for
dinner and I'm like, I want ways, I want waits, No,
i want ways, Oh my god, yeah, I'm allay, no, give.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Me the other one, that that would be so obnoxious.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Also, there's just not creative like stadium chance we are,
at least in American sports, like at least at least
international soccer and stuff like that, Like they're creative with
that their songs are fun and things like that, you
get the.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Whole stadium going.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Like just repeating the same inane thing over and over
and over again makes me insane.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
Guys, would you rather only be able to watch w
NBA games or preseason football?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Preseason football? I listen.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I It's it's nothing against it's nothing against the women
that play in the w NBA or anything like that. Like,
I just I have not gotten myself to be interested
in the w NBA, and that's that's a personal preference.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
It's if you're down for that, it's fine.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I think a lot of people are talking about the
w NBA as if they actually watch it without actually
watching the w NBA, which is always funny for me
to listen to that level of analysis. But I'm already
I'm already going through preseason football anyway. At least that's
something that I enjoy.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, I will say, by the way, the amount of
people that say they hate the W that have never
watched it, or say they love the w that have
never watched it is really alarming to me. True sermon
in my ain is probably preseason football because I just
I do what I do because I love football, Like
I think we can all admit that, like, that's okay
to admit I I do watch more w than most people.
I'm also willing to admit that, but also I wish
(40:26):
we could be more fair in the way we cover it,
sometimes good and bad. All Right, Buck mentioned it. The
ap pole is out. We'll tell you who's overrated.
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All the way down to my core. I do not
believe that the NFL is sitting down trying to figure
out how to give the Kansas City Chiefs an advantage
over your favorite team. But I also believe that the metrics,
the eyeballs, all of these things, along with some actions
by the league, feed the perception. The question is what
(01:02):
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this comes from her she Rice. His hearing will be
on the thirtieth. It is likely at this point he
will play at least the first four games because of
the timing of his hearing and the suspension that he
will be facing for his accident and issue. But remember
(01:49):
he played guilty the same day that Jordan Addison did.
Jordan Addison is already facing his three games suspension, which
has everybody from fans to pro football talk saying this
looks suspicious and it just feeds a conspiracy theory conversation
about whether or not the league is biased towards the Chiefs.
Now you said earlier, I spent too much time on
social media. I will at least point out I'm a
(02:11):
Raiders fan all the way to my core. Everybody knows that, right,
you can't grow up a Raiders fan without just hearing
institutionally the league has it out for Vegas. I do
not believe, and I say this all the time. A
Raiders fans hate it. I don't believe the league has
it out for the Raiders. They don't need to have
it out for the Raiders. Like teams that suck just suck,
like the league doesn't have to help the team suck.
(02:33):
It's just the fact is the Raiders are cash grab
and they're a rating skinner. So I genuinely believe the
NFL actually likes it better when the Raiders are good. Now,
for years I heard well officials have it out for
the Raiders, and I actually asked Jack del Real when
we worked together at ESPN. I got my job at ESPN,
I'm working with them all the time. I saw them
on the morning show, pulled them aside on the halls,
(02:54):
and I said, Jack, do you believe that the officials
have it out for the Raiders? And he said no.
What I do know is that officials are assigned to
the matchups based on the quality of the matchup and
the quality of teams playing it. So when you are
usually a bad football team and you are playing other
teams that are usually bad, you end up with the
(03:17):
least experienced or the least the lowest graded officiating group.
Happens all the time, So I believe what happens is
is Jack telling me this, educating me this in the
halls of ESPN. I do believe that sometimes fans think
that there's a bias, when in fact it's just get
you get worse refs that just happens. We don't think
of that sort of context any of this conversation. Richie's
(03:40):
a really good example. He's going to face a suspension,
but not until he goes through this hearing. Well, according
to some reports, the hearing is happening because the NFL
already suggested a penalty and the Chiefs and the player
don't agree with it, so now they're going to an arbiter,
Like we don't know that that happened with Jordan Addison.
And that's why I don't buy into any of these series,
(04:00):
Like guess what nobody has to give the Chiefs an advantage.
They're really stinking good. They win games well.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And the other part of this is like, are you
willing to pursue whatever tools or whatever paths are at
your disposal, like you know, pushing back on the league's
penalty and going through the independent arbitrator process and potentially
expanding the window here. There are well run organizations that
will have good advice on these things, and we'll take
(04:29):
advantage of whatever tools are at their disposal. It's kind
of like when we have off season discussions fitsie each
and every year. And I don't know how much of
this you do on national radio, but certainly on the
local show.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
God knows.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
We try to become capologists every free agency period. But
you have what you have at your disposal, which is,
you know, a fair amount of resources at this point
in time. Places like SPA Track and over the Cap
do a really nice job helping to inform everybody so
that fans, media and everybody else externally can have a
more a fuller picture of how teams actually go about this.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
But of course we don't have every level of detail.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
On what it is to maneuver the cap, all the
different loopholes that exist for lack of a better term,
that would allow teams to move money around or to
make sure to get creative with the finances, to make
sure that they can fit certain contracts under their cap,
or things like void years that I didn't know existed
until Drew Brees became a thing, or Tom Brady started
(05:29):
to use them with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers during his
time here as he was trying to build more competitive
teams or working with the Bucks to build more competitive teams.
There's all manner of things that teams have at their disposal,
all manner of things that lie in the rules and regulations,
in the fine details of the NFL's the NFL's governing body,
that would allow you to take advantage of things like this.
(05:49):
And if the Chiefs are doing it better than the
Vikings are, or using something at their disposal that the
Vikings don't necessarily have, Yes, the optics of it externally
looks suspicious. But again, in all of these conversations context matters,
we cannot possibly have the full extent of information because
we are not in each and every one of these
meeting rooms and not taking detailed notes and each of
(06:11):
each and every one of these hearings. The way that
people want to just throw their hands up in the
air be frustrated by it because it's easier to do
and send out a tweet about the league's conspiring against
every other team that's not named the Kansas City Chiefs,
or conspiring in favor of the Kansas City Chiefs, because
that's frankly the lazier version of it. It takes more time, effort,
(06:32):
and energy to actually worm your way through all the
different reasons why this would become a thing, rather than
assuming the lowest common denominator, which is the league is
biased for the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I years ago was having a conversation with Jim Dapolis,
who on Twitter I think is ref Jim d and
he was a long time ref in the NFL, and
we were just sitting back shooting that you know, up
and talking about blown calls and just moments, right, And
I asked him what he thinks about the most in
his career as we were talking, and he literally is
(07:04):
He's sitting next to me, was getting emotional. He's like,
I still remember, and he started recounting different games where
he blew a call and he's like the impact that
that has on so many lives when you blow a call.
And I walked away from that thinking so much about
the narrative we have around officials, right, and this concept
that well, that official is obviously biased for Patrick Mahomes.
(07:25):
And then it doesn't get easier when you see the
micd up stuff and you hear quarterbacks talking to the
rest and they're joking around, and like you got a
rev asking Joe Burrow where you know where he got
his swords from? And people are like, see that ref
is obviously no, Like I think.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
God forbid.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
They have human conversations like each and every one of
us would on any given day at our jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, and then we just presumed that suddenly that official
can't shut off whatever he thinks and just do his
job like he's again, I go back to feeding little timmy, right,
Like that official is going to be graded based on
his performance in that game, which is going to impact
whether or not he gets playoff games, which impacts whether
or not he gets the Super Bowl, and every one
of those games gives him a cash bonus. So like, yes,
(08:07):
if I could just you know, maybe all of the
other guys, if I could dedicate my life to becoming
an official just so I could screw the Chiefs, the
Broncos or the Chargers out of a Super Bowl, I
would do that. That's why I shouldn't be an official,
right Like I would, I'd walk out in there and
be like, jokes on, you pass interference, you lost the
Super Bowl, And then I should rip my official off.
(08:27):
I'd rip my official jersey off, and underneath it would
be my Raiders' shirt and I would evil, maniacal laugh
all the way out like that, I would do that.
I'm not a professional, right, Like, officials work so hard
for so long, and then we sit down in this
weird society where we can take it frame by frame
and we suddenly decide. Like I was playing in an
(08:48):
adult kickball league and got into a just massive argument
with the first place base on because I don't think
that the bunt had to go pass the line between
first and third. He was wrong, and I'm ripping him up.
And I realized, like, this is kickball. Nobody cares think
about what we do to NFL officials, to NBA officials,
every single time we see this frame by frame, like
(09:09):
God forbids, somebody missed one call. Then all of a
sudden it's like, well, the league's paying them. Are you
buying any of this?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
There's too much money involved to think that the league
would do anything like this intentionally, especially now that the
gambling dollars are all over the place.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
That's that, and that's a conversation that we can have,
you know, sports wide here a little later with the
Michael Porter Junior stuff as we as we work our
way through this morning on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
But no, I'm not buying any of it.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I I get so fed up with the level of
discourse around these things that I, Fitzy, it's probably a
bad quality of mine. But I was talking yesterday about
you responding to tweets that we were getting when we
filled in Forgotlieb about whatever Shadoor opinion you had, and
(09:58):
somebody spun it out on Twitter because they heard one thing.
They heard whatever they wanted to hear you say, because
you invoke the name, and that's a polarizing name. The
Chiefs are a polarizing topic, especially when it comes to
the objectivity or perceived lack thereof, that the NFL has
and how much you know, how much they're all over
the place, and how much success they've had, and all
(10:20):
the different things that success breeds that I just shut
out so much of this stuff. I'm so happy to
ignore every conspiracy theory that has thrown my way because
I don't I don't. I know it's not true, Like
I know it's not true, Fitzy. Every year, when when
you cover a team as a beat reporter the way
that I do with with the Titans when officials come in,
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when the when the teams bring officials into officiate training
camp to kind of get guys in the mindset of all, right, well,
this would be a penalty in a normal situation. We're
gonna we're gonna help you guys that are adjusting to
rule changes that we have each and every year that
the league votes on.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
What have you.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Every year they go out of their way, the officials
when they come to town to offer the media the opportunity
to sit through essentially a lecture about all the different
rule changes or how officials are viewing these things, frame
by frame examples of plays that are called, and not
just showing examples of correct calls, but showing examples of
(11:20):
mistakes that were made in the same way that the
NBA has, like the Final two Minute Report and stuff
like that. Now, for all the good that the Final
two Minute Report does, when you're throwing your hands up
in the air and yelling about miscalls, because there is
still human air, and I think we have mitigated as
much of the human error as humanly possible, especially when
we're talking about the the I can't remember what the
(11:41):
exact term is for the for the GPS tracking that
we now have in the football to determine the exact
spot as opposed to just relying on you know, a
bunch of sixty year olds who are working a chain
gang on a weekend and things like that. But we've
narrowed it down and continue to fine tune it to
such a such a point that it almost takes some
of the drama and some of the fun out of
(12:01):
those those dramatic moments, those those moments that are filled
with suspense that do matter a great deal. But there again,
there is so much money involved in each and every
play and each and every snap and each and every
player prop that gets hit or doesn't get hit, that
people want to turn it into something that it's not,
when in reality, there's no way for these things to
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be perfect. There's simply no way for these things to
be perfect. So whatever you assume about what an official
is doing in favor or against a particular team because
you believe there to be slats, like, how many actually
documented cases of an official fixing results have there been
in the last twenty years?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I mean since since what's what's the NBA officials name
that was.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Fixing games Donegie Tim Tim donaghie, right, the most famous
example of that. Like not to say that it couldn't
ever happen, or that an environment exists that it could
never happen, but like the percentage chance that those things
are actually taking place and that it's just going on
in the league as willing to turn a blind eye
is so impossibly ignorant that I just don't know how
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people can get themselves in that mindset.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
There's a event every year at ESPN called the College
Football Seminar, and they bring every single person that covers
rights or talks about college football and any capacity into
one room. A few years ago, I was at that seminar.
I was at that seminar many times, but one year
I was at that seminar and the officials came up
and they were educating the entire room, hundreds of people
on targeting. And so they played the plays and they
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explained targeting, and then they showed us replays over and
over and over again, and then we essentially took a
quiz as a group to try and figure out from
what we were just taught what was and what wasn't
targeting and when I tell you that no more than
sixty seventy percent could ever agree on any play, and
we were wrong all the time. We sat there and
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got a second by second, frame by frame explanation. And
that's why every time I see somebody on TV tell
me definitively, oh that's targeting or oh that's definitely not targeting,
I laugh because I've sat in the room with the
everybody from Kirk kurb Street all the way down to
a production assistant you've never heard of, all being quizzed
on it, and we couldn't get it right. It's it's
(14:14):
there is nothing exact about the inexact science of officiating.
There is something, though, you just mentioned about gambling that
I think is key. There is one reason why we
should actually look at all of the gambling controversy as
a great thing for sports. I'll tell you what that
is next.
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August buck. Let me let me ask you this. Aliens.
We enter out on aliens, I mean, just in general,
I'm not much of it. I'm not a conspiracy theorist
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at all. I don't really care, and so are you?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
In aliens exist? Where are we on this one?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
They have to, right, I mean, what what is the oh,
here we go? What is what is the definition of
intelligent life?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
You know?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I mean would you human beings be considered intelligent life?
I'm sure somebody else the world would think. Yeah, correct, Lorena,
absolutely correct.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
If this, if.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
The last hour and a half or less than an
hour and a half of radio is evidence of anything,
it is that human beings are not overwhelmingly intelligent. And
I'm referencing mostly fits in myself, but yeah, I'm I
I believe that there. However, you would define another life
form elsewhere in the vastness that is the universe.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
We can't possibly be the only things out here.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
With with the level of quote unquote intelligence that we
assign ourselves.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Surely not. If so, the universe is doomed.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But are they among us?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
That is the question? Now, Lee you you are you
are a proponent of this? Yes?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Well yeah, look at the ocean, Look at octopus. Look
at their das an alien First, they all have DNA.
That's uh, that is defined kind of as alien. It's
unlike any other DNA on the planet.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well, like, that's not as much fun if it's an
alien that we can't talk to or like, like, I mean,
just an alien floating around the waters.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
You should watch Octopus, teacher. There's a bond between the
director and the octopuses. I mean there is communication. Doesn't
have to be our kind.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Well, and do the do the OCTOPI I believe in
do they do?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
They do?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
They find us to be unintelligent because they are trying
to communicate with us and we are speaking some kind
of gibberish to them.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And do we keep eating them and deep frying them? Well,
they are delicious, they do, Like, No, octopus are not
delicious at all. I look, I'm a little dumbounded here.
Like the concept is supposed to be this alien was
so advanced that they found their way to Earth from
God knows where, which can't be an easy thing to do,
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only to then be susceptible to simply being caught in
deep fried and eaten like that just feels like there's
a disconnect somewhere where. So why in every alien movie
do they always land in like New York? Like, if
I'm an alien and I'm looking at the globe, if
I'm gonna land my spaceship somewhere, I'm probably gonna pick
an area with a bunch of like open land, Like
(18:14):
what wouldn't you just Egypt? There's plenty of room there, Like,
I just don't understand why they always land in a
in a city of some salts.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Send them to my homeland. Don't put that all. Get
out of here.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
And that's my point about Octimus, though, is that you know,
the the odds are that they would land in an ocean.
They're probably just some spore, thank you, Octopi, some spore
on an asteroid that landed in the ocean millions and
years years ago.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And here we are well.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And also FITSI the hubris of you, the entitlement of
you to think that they weren't here first, Like, well
you are.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
The one gentrifying there the other way around, all right.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, I mean here again loudly, I want to say,
I feel like there's probably a pretty good chance aliens exist.
I just don't care. Like if I find out today
that my three best friends are aliens, well they were
my three best friends yesterday. They'll still be my three
best friends tomorrow. Like if you were an alien all
this time, you didn't have the power to make the
raiders better than Like what was really like your powerless alien.
(19:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
No, no, no, alien does not connote superpower. Like what
are you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Well, I mean, if you're powerful enough to get to
this world, you're supposed to have some advanced something, right,
So now you're telling me that like aliens just sort
of happen stanced over here, and they're just like taking
over sections of the land and they're just like, you know,
like just squatters, squatters rights on aliens. I want them
to be here for a purpose. They're supposed to be
here for advancement or a battle or something, not just
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like hanging out.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Purpose of advancement. Would you say that you're here for bud.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Oh no, no, no, I'm but I'm not an alien,
right like the aliens coming here would be the strong
disagree m that. Look, I just just I might be
a vampire. Like just because I look particularly young from
my age doesn't mean I'm actually an alien.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Botox does not mean you're a vampire.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Oh, only one of us has had botox? Are you
related to Jonas? Uh? The the look buck out here
throwing botox shade? By the way, Puck, how old are you, buddy?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
How uh? Thirty two? A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Thirty two. You are, I am old enough to be
your dad and have not yet had any injection put
in my face. Thank you very much, So.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Every three months, baby, Wow two.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Do aliens get botox? Or do aliens do the botox?
I see this is where this is where people driving
themselves crazy with this.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I think the botox is the alien life form.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Uh nothing, nothing, nothing derived from humanity can can hold
you together that well, I think the botox is the alien.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I'll let the aliens figure it out. We'll figure out gambling.
He's buck rising up, Jason fitzbucking well. I mean we'll
try and figure out.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Don't don't give him, don't give him the golf clap
for that. That was not as good at tease as
he wanted it to be.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Wow, this is this is We're barely an hour a
half into this and mommy and daddy are fighting on
a morning. It's Friday morning. How can we be this
snippy on a Friday morning? What you mean?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I've just I've just started to wake wake up after
an hour and a half of radio. Now now I
can get to you know, Now I can be me
a little bit and you go, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's what I'm saying. An hour and a half in. Now,
now I'm really feeling it now, so I'm now, I'm awake.
Now I'm I'm ready to rock. Now I can gain
more of me instead instead of this you know, sleepy
dope that just rolled out of bed.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
You know you screaming about Shador's sanders at me.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Okay, So to recap, you said your words were not
slurred in the first hour because you went out. You
said that you went to Magic City Wings or Magic
City for the Wings and only the Wings that you
stayed in last night. And now suddenly it's seven thirty
Eastern time. Now you're feeling froggy. Now you're feeling awake
and glorious. But there was no reason that you were
tired when the show started.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
There in a hanging.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Listen, I have had six damn days here in Atlanta
to go get my strip club wings, and I have
taken full advantage at this point in time. No, I
I waddled downstairs to the God help the people that
are that are also staying in this hotel that I've
just been screaming into a microphone in my room. For
for the last five or five or six days straight
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having to hear Shador Sanders rants and conspiracy theories about
the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
No.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I waddled downstairs to the to the common area. I
got my cup of coffee in a banana. I've my
headache that I woke up with has dissuaded. And not
because I'm hungover because of the strip club wings, but
because for some reason, Fincy, I just wake up with
a with a not a hangover with with a headache anymore.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I don't know what to do about that.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Perhaps I should be taking advantage of the fine people
at Mattress Firm that way.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Maybe you should, you know, instead of uber eats stripper wings,
maybe you eat your way, maybe be your way over
to a gym and just work that out, buddy, and
then you'll feel better. You'll sweat it out. Just got
a lot of I'm dripping with judgment and the look
I'm getting from book rising.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Right now, I don't want to hear you dripping with anything.
Oh God, whatever the hell is holding up your alien
life form hair.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It's perfect already, you know, just wakes up this way.
Now you get to see it, Okay.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
So look like you got electrocuted. Maybe wakes up this way.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, well this is what happens. Look, you come at me, buddy,
Come at me, see me when you're almost fifty, and
we'll figure out if your hair looks this good, buddy.
Let let we'll just we'll figure that out.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I will have taken three trips to Turkey to make
sure my hair looks that good.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
By then that is that is fus.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, just you're gonna start saving up for that trip.
Now that's that's the way it's done. I'll use my
gambling winnings to get there. And gambling has me thinking
about Michael Porter Junior, who I'm I'm a little man.
I'm a little shooketh that Michael Porter Junior, who I
love the fact that he just says what is on
his mind when he's on his mind. But he was
on one night with Steiny the podcast and he talked
(24:04):
about sports gambling with his friends, and look, it's pretty
staggering when he starts talking about the advantage that it
can create when you can just look at your buddies
and say, hey, you know what, maybe play the under tonight.
And then you get injured and like your one buddy
can make ten grand, and another buddy can make ten
Brandon grand, and he's talking about this buck, and I
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just I'm stunned because I cannot believe that a player
in the league doesn't understand the systems that are in
place to catch that exact thing, like if any sports
but there's a national register that looks at all bets
that are placed if any sports books. He's an unusual
amount of activity being placed on the under of Michael
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Porter Junior for you know, ten thousand dollars and there's
five or six bets on it, and they see it.
There isn't a chance in hell that doesn't get flagged.
Like these are the moments that I keep looking at
everybody saying, hey, the gambling issue when it comes to players.
The fact that we're getting people flagged all the time
shows you that the guardrails are actually working.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Let me let me hear the full or the audio context.
If I could lay from the One Night with Steiny podcast.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
You get mad at these dudes like they do the
sports betting, but think about it, if you could get
all your homies rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand
dollars on my under, you know, this one game, I'm
gonna act like I got an injury and I'm I'm
gonna sit out. I'm gonna come out after three minutes
and they all get a little bad because you did
it one game like that is so not okay. But
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some people probably think like that. They come from nothing
and all their homies have nothing, and they're like, Bro,
if I if I come out of this game after
three minutes and y'all all hit on my under we're
all getting a little bad, you know what I mean.
And I obviously my brother went through his situation. You know,
Malik Beasley's going through a situation right now. Terry Rozier
was in some hot water. But the whole sports gambling
(25:54):
like entity, Bro, it's it's it's bad, and it's it's
only gonna get worse. Bro, Like we we really do
get death threats, so that is courtesy.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
That's Michael Porter Junior on the One Night with Steiny
podcasts discussing and he talked about a variety of different subjects.
This is a pretty pretty interesting listen if you haven't
caught the full podcast yet. He also talked about like
dating in NBA circles and the impact of gambling on that,
but is is larger point about the betting impact going
(26:26):
to get worse, and you know how much of this
has detracted from the integrity of the game or the
enjoyment of the game, specifically on the professional athletes sides
Like I, I don't disagree with him, especially when you're
you've got so many these these gambling entities that are
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promoting themselves on college campuses and things like that, and
they're there are the instances are few and far between,
like the guardrails to your point, and I believe you
mentioned this earlier, or if not, you've you've mentioned off
air or in previous shows that we've done together, that
the system is working to make sure that we catch
these things and there are very few and far between
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instances that these things are actually happening. So it's just
are you Are you smart enough to avoid the temptation
of what of what Michael Porter Junior has just described there,
Even though yeah, it sounds all pretty routine, it could
cost you what ten grand you could make for you
and your buddies if you're faking an injury and hitting
you're under, or betting you're under and faking an injury
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and then making sure that that under hits you cost
yourself so much more in the long term as far
as earnings. How could you possibly rationalize it that way?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Like, I get that, and.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Ten thousand dollars is not an amount of money to
turn your nose up at, even if you're a professional athlete.
But like that logic to me what he's describing it,
it simply does not make sense, especially when you talk
about the NBA and the amount of money that even
fringe like you know, seventh or eighth guys off the
bench are making relative to ten thousand dollars, that's a
(28:04):
drop in the bucket.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
That's couch that's couch cushion change.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, that's the the hard part about this is again,
there are national systems.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It's funny. I like to watch old Law and Order
and you know, the like the early nineties.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Original law were making new law and orders.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, they still make law order. Yeah yeah, you can't
stick Yeah, no, of course it's not peacock like I
haven't gotten I listened to Law and Order. I literally
listened to Law and Order every day while I'm in
the gym. That's it. I don't like rage music when
I work out, and so I just like to go
into like a weird spot where like I don't think,
and I've watched every episode of the old Law and Order,
so I just started season one earlier this year. I'm
(28:42):
up to like season seven now. So yeah, there's new
new seasons. But the funny thing is I literally saw
an episode from I think season four or five where
one of the new cops was having to teach everybody
how to use email and the internet because they didn't
even realize that existed. And part of what they're starting
to do in these old season and say, hey, we
can cross reference to this person and see if they're
(29:03):
wanted in another state, because that didn't really exist in
an easy way in the early nineties. If you're you know,
if you're a junkie for true crime and serial killers,
you'll see that. Back in the seventies and eighties, like
they would be all over the place, and because there
wasn't an easy way for anybody to communicate from Washington
to Florida, it became really hard to catch people like
Ted Bundy. Like that's because technology didn't exist the way
(29:26):
that it exists today. Well, now technology is such that
gambling is the databases that exists for regulation exists nationally.
So even if you've got one body over here in
Maine and one body over here in Wisconsin and you're
telling them to put that ten thousand dollars out, it
is going to cause a flag. And this is where
I come back to, you know, my childhood. I grew
(29:48):
up in Las Vegas as a kid, and my parents
were both casino managers. And you know, I remember when
we left Vegas, everybody would always ask my parents, like
we'd be sitting around with you know, friends and friends, family,
and it was always all man, you know, casinos they cheat,
don't they. Now this is you know, post mob era
or the mob are a very different post mob ere
And I so distinctly remember my mom, who's always been
(30:09):
blunting in communication, saying, no, casinos don't have to cheat
because people are stupid. And the whole point that she
constantly made is that regulations exist where everything is tracked,
and you can't cheat in a casino even if you
want to, because it's not worth the risk. Casinos are
so wildly regulated, just like sports gambling is all you
(30:29):
gotta do is rely on people to lose self control
and so when the advantage always goes to the house,
eventually people will make a bet they shouldn't make, and
the house always wins. There's a reason those big fancy
casinos exist in Vegas. The house always wins. Like DraftKings
isn't here taking bets because most people get the best
of DraftKings. They're taking bets because they're making money hand
over fist. So all of these companies are making money
(30:50):
because most people are out there just playing parlay after
parlay after parlay, and they show you the one ticket
that won, but they don't show you the one hundred
tickets that lost over the course of the year.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That's that's the way this whole gambling thing works. So
for athletes that are sitting here saying, oh, I'm gonna
go make ten grand for my friend because I have
insider information, at what risk, at what costs? Because the
regulations will find you and they have found them. Like
the reason that two Cleveland Guardians pitchers are under investigation
is because you can't do these things without people figuring
out quickly, especially if there's any real money. So if
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you're placing any actual dollars on any of this, it's
simply going to flag somebody, and if you're not placing
any actual dollars on it, then it's not worth the risks.
So I just think that we're turning something that's actually
being positively regulated into some sort of a massive chaos,
like massive crisis that I just don't think exists.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
You know what I think is more detrimental to athletes
than the gambling environment right now, go on podcast appearances,
listen as people who's speaking to microphones for a living.
(32:02):
I acknowledge that we are guilty of oversharing, but like
some of these, some of these conversations that are being
had by athletes where where you would never never in
a million world, in a million years, FITZI. You know,
I do postgame locker room stuff all the time. As
a beat reporter. I cover a team on a day
(32:24):
to day basis. I'm in the locker room probably four
days a week. In press conference settings like these things
would never be said in front of media that way.
And yet you know, an athlete gets in a podcast
setting in a situation where they're probably surrounded by people
that they trust far more than you know, the media
vultures like myself, and things like that, and they overshare
(32:46):
or share some of the most bird brain stuff you've
ever heard. I think, I think that the podcast appearances
and how many people have these different platforms that will
get aggregated like this far more detrimental to the to
the to the well being of these of these athletes
(33:07):
than anything else, because you, even if you believe some
of this stuff, or even if you are feeling this
type of way, like there is there is something to
the oversharing of it that will that will allow your
words to be twisted or or give your words more
meaning than you actually intended them to have, because your
words do matter, and now they're being documented and literally
(33:28):
every platform. And I'm not against people having podcasts, like
I like hearing more transparency from athletes. I like I
like getting a better look at how they actually feel,
because God knows, they're not willing to share it with
a lot of us who are asking them these questions
on a day to day basis. And and you know,
most of it well intentioned. Some some people are out
to get you for for clickbait and otherwise, but just
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I find it so funny that athletes are so guarded
in certain settings and then you know they sit down
on a on a couch with a couple of sure mics,
and and all of a sudden, it's it's everything's fair
game and no rules apply, and logic and reason don't
actually matter here.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You forget where you are sometimes. The very first digital
livestream show that I did at ESPN at the time
with Mina Kimes, like, there was a bunch of us
for the NFL and we were live and we were
not on any sort of a delay because we're all pros.
We've all done TV and radio and there's no big deal.
Thirty seconds in, Mina drops an F bomb because and
she immediately says, she's like, I'm so sorry, but like
(34:27):
we were all sitting on the couch just shoot, like
it felt like the night before when we were sitting
on you know, Michael of Junior scouch having the same conversations.
This time there were just microphones and you forget, And
that is that is absolutely part of this. Like you
get comfortable, and when you're comfortable, you say something maybe
maybe you shouldn't. One thing that I'm certain of is
when you get comfortable, it's always good time to eat
(34:48):
some free hamburgers. Free hamburgers have taken Baseball black stom.
We'll tell you about it next. Yeah, yeah, what what?
What are you looking at me like?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Not playing America's favorite game show?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Are we doing that?
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Next? Oh? We could do?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Would you rather next?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I didn't you want to?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You never responded to the group text this morning asking
about it. I don't know what this? Would you rather?
The best game show in the history of sports talk
radio is next? Unless I kill Buck Rising, We'll do
it Fucking Fits on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz Bucking Fits takeover. Don't
forget with the iHeart Radio app. You can stream us
wherever you happen to be. Who doesn't love that? Catch
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(35:48):
live all day, every day, and be sure to select
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iHeart app so it will always pop up on the
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like radio. What's old is New again? In society? Got like,
I just want one service that bundles everything together. And
what do you know? That's called cable? Okay, it is
time for the single greatest grant game show in the
(36:09):
history of sports talk radio. Right to get out of Look, look,
this is this is gonna be. Our relationship is hanging
on by a thread. Here are you ready for this book?
It is time for wo you.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Rather?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
It's easy? Guys, don't think too hard on Would you
rather bucket, touch or fix it? All right, Producer Lee's
gonna come in, give us a question. We'll figure out
would we rather Lee?
Speaker 5 (36:37):
What do you go for us?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (36:39):
Would you rather have your name forever misspelled on your
Hall of Fame plaque or be remembered only for your
blooper real?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Remember those old NFL folly films?
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Brother, I covered Will Levis for a season.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
All I know is is miscues and gaffs and memes
from a from a whole NFL season.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Man, that's a.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I would probably rather have my name misspelled, like I
could get over that. People are gonna misspell my name anyway,
and honestly, they'd probably pronounce it correctly more often if
it was misspelled, because rising is spelled r E I
s I n G, And more often than not, I
(37:22):
hear people call it.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Recing or reestling, like the lines I might do that.
It's okay, there's nothing wrong with it. I get it.
It's human error.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
So maybe the mispronunciation would act or the misspelling would
actually lead to better pronunciation.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
You know, you could just change the way your last
name is spelled for purposes and being on air would
make life easier. Oh, my last name is only fits
f i Tz. That's it. It's not Fitzgerald, fitz him as,
not any of those things. It's only Fits. The amount
of mail I get for Jason Fritz Frigz always makes
me laugh, But like that feels fitting to me. It
feels appropriate that you would have a hall of fame.
(37:56):
But if I ever had a hall of fame, black
for anything, my name should be misspelled. I'll go with
the miss spelling.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Buckling and Jason Fritz.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I think you should be only fits fans man feet
mixed coming at.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
So would it be fetould? I think I could be
a hand model.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Look.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
No.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I Like, every time I hear somebody talk about what
OnlyFans the models make on their feet, I look down
at mine. I'm like, yeah, fitz feet Maybe that's what
like FITZI feet feet by fits, I don't know, Like
I'm I'm work shopping this fits. I mean, I'm work
shopping this. But let's just, you know, let's just see
if things get My toes are going out on only
fans go ahead, but only feet, fellows.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Would you rather have to use only sports commentary, catchphrases
and voice in every conversation or only be able to
answer questions in the form of stadium chants?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Oh, answer answer questions in the form of stadium chants,
because that will just absolutely infuriate my co host. Like
if every time he's like, what do you want for
dinner and I'm like, I want ways, I want waits, No,
i want ways, Oh my god, yeah, I'm allay, no, give.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Me the other one, that that would be so obnoxious.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Also, there's just not creative like stadium chance we are,
at least in American sports, like at least at least
international soccer and stuff like that, Like they're creative with
that their songs are fun and things like that, you
get the.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Whole stadium going.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Like just repeating the same inane thing over and over
and over again makes me insane.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
Guys, would you rather only be able to watch w
NBA games or preseason football?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Preseason football? I listen.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I It's it's nothing against it's nothing against the women
that play in the w NBA or anything like that. Like,
I just I have not gotten myself to be interested
in the w NBA, and that's that's a personal preference.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
It's if you're down for that, it's fine.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I think a lot of people are talking about the
w NBA as if they actually watch it without actually
watching the w NBA, which is always funny for me
to listen to that level of analysis. But I'm already
I'm already going through preseason football anyway. At least that's
something that I enjoy.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, I will say, by the way, the amount of
people that say they hate the W that have never
watched it, or say they love the w that have
never watched it is really alarming to me. True sermon
in my ain is probably preseason football because I just
I do what I do because I love football, Like
I think we can all admit that, like, that's okay
to admit I I do watch more w than most people.
I'm also willing to admit that, but also I wish
(40:26):
we could be more fair in the way we cover it,
sometimes good and bad. All Right, Buck mentioned it. The
ap pole is out. We'll tell you who's overrated.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Next.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
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