July 23, 2025 • 40 mins
The guys talk about Bengals DE Trey Hendrickson holding out of training camp as the team continues to live up to their penny-pinching reputation, what Joe Burrow can realistically do about it, the College Sports Commission, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh yeah, come on, Brady.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
This is a perfect song, by the way, for segueing
to the topic we're gonna talk about next.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, I have no idea what even this song is.
I'll be honest with you. Yeah, it is Two Pros
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And we've got Brady Quinn live in Las Vegas. By
the way, you able to get a nice restaurant in
Vegas has got plenty. Were you able to partake in
some good eats.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
You may find this you may find this a bit surprising, Jonas,
But given our time slot and how that impacts my
life out here, no, absolutely not. I'll usually try to
after this, pack up my stuff, get ready to head over,
and you were kind of taping interviews throughout the rest
of the day. So unfortunately, no, due to this radio
(01:37):
show in our time slot, I've not gotten to indulge
or even throw. You know, craps, play a hand of blackjack,
you know, a little roulette, nothing.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I've had craps explained to me at least one hundred times,
and I still don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
You do blackjack, right, you can fear that out?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, blackjack, but that feels easy. But then you've got
the pass line, you've got you know, if it's a
seven or eleven?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, yeah, first roll.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Okay. Still I don't understand it, And maybe it's because
I'm bombed every time somebody's explaining it to me, but
I do not understand how you win it crafts and
everything that I hear from everybody is that if that's
the game, if you want to win, that's the one
that you win the most at, Like if you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Win any I mean, first role are your best odds
that after that it goes downhill.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
But it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'll say that for anyone who's been with a group
of people playing craps, it can be so much fun.
You also can lose a lot of money really fast,
so you have to be careful about playing that particular game.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The one that got me was three card poker, and
it got me because the first hand I ever played,
I pulled three eights and I ended up winning like
three hundred bucks or whatever it was, and I was hooked.
And I've never won. That's used like a fortune. I've
never won since, not one time, and I fall forward
every time because you've got to annie up. But you've
got it's more on top of more on top of more,
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so you end up losing your ass. So for anybody
out there who was losing their ass in Vegas, you know,
thoughts and prayers and hopefully hopefully things will turn around
for you later on. Today we do have some hopes
that maybe things will turn around for somebody in the
NFL and that's somebody is none other than Trey Hendrickson,
the star pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals. This from
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Diana Rossini, who wrote this on social media yesterday on
x Quote. Just spoke to Bengals pass rusher Trey Hendrickson,
who is currently in Jacksonville. For the last thirty days,
He'd been at his home in Cincinnati and training, but
his training camp approached, he and his wife decided to leave.
They received two offers and a twenty four hour span,
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none containing the guarantees passed the first year he was
looking for. Hendrickson didn't want to hear the practice whistles
while being a distraction to his teammates, so he and
his wife Alyssa, decided I had to pack up and
head to Florida. Down in Jacksonville, Hendrickson continues to train,
hoping that a deal could be worked out.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I was more than willing to take less in some
ways in order to make this work. So that from
Diana Rossini on the subject of Trey Hendrickson and why
he has not agreed to a deal with the Cincinnati Bengals.
I mean it just it discontinues on and I get
this funny feeling this thing's going to end poorly. Either
(04:28):
he's going to get traded or he's just not going
to get a deal with the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Based on that report, does it feel like the Bengals
are almost betting against him being able to keep this
sort of productivity?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
And that's what it feels like. If you're only able
to give.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Him one year of guarantees in the deal, you're looking
at his age and you're saying he's either going to
be subject to injury or he's going to have a
dramatic decline in his level of play. Now, I also
say this too about Al Golden, and we you and
I have talked about this before in regards to scheme
and sometimes the coordinators and how that can play a
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factor into how they value players, and some organizations and
how those coaches play a factor in how much they value,
you know, a big contract extension like this, because if
you've got a more elaborate scheme, where're gonna be pressuring
like Al Golden does. And I assume what he did
a Notre Dame WI Vise very similar to what he's
going to do in Cincinnati. I'm not saying that you
(05:24):
don't need talented players. You always need talented players. But
when you talk about a guy who's got what seventeen
sacks the past two years, you know you are at
times trying to isolate him and you can get away
with a four man rush because he's so productive, and
I'm sure every defense coordinator would love that luxury. But
if you're a guy who likes to bring pressure and
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likes to, you know, do a variety of things, maybe
not as necessary, right because you're going to find a
way of getting free runners based on the protection, and
you're going to scheme up some things to get pressure.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
You don't need to necessarily pay you.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
A ton of money out for it if that's the case.
So I do wonder how you know that new defensive
scheme without golden calling the defense is factors in to
some degree to to any of this. But when I
hear only one year of guarantees, what it's saying to
me is like they don't believe that he's going to
be able to maintain his production. They don't believe he's
going to be able to maintain his level of health,
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which is unfortunate. So hopefully they can get to a
point where they at least give him two years of guarantees.
You know, it used to be quarterbacks were the only
ones who got into the third year. We're seeing some
of the top players now other positions get that. And
we've obviously seen players like Deshaun Watson get a fully
guaranteed deal, but those are few and far between.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
As we know.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The owners have colluded to make sure that doesn't happen again.
This is what doesn't make any sense about what the
Bengals are doing. If this is the approach, and the
report is true, he's only getting one year of guarantees.
I could understand if there was a history of injuries,
especially over the past couple of years, as he's gotten older.
There hasn't he started every game the past two years.
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He's gotten better as the contract has gone on from
twenty twenty one to now, he's gotten better, and he's
been healthy the previous two years. So if anybody's got
a gripe, or if anybody's got a hey, you know,
look at what I've done. There's no evidence to support
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the fact that maybe I'm slipping as I'm getting a
little bit older. In fact, I've gotten better the previous
two seasons it's Trey Hendrickson. And yet for some reason,
if that's the case, and the Bengals are like, yeah,
we're just not sure if you can keep this up.
What has given you any indication of that. He hasn't
missed games like he's produced. He's been one of your
only producers on the defensive side of the ball. Without him,
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what is this defense? And then it goes to the
Shamar Stewart stuff where it's like, Okay, well, at least
we've got a backup plan. You don't even have that
like that. That's the part of this I don't understand.
And I know that you're paying somebody not for what
they've did, for what they can do, but at a
certain point you do have to look at this and go,
what evidence do we have to support us thinking that
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he can't last, or that he can't hold up physically
or whatever it is at this at this stage of
his career, when all the evidence would point to no,
he actually has and in fact, he's gotten better the
previous two years.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
That's a part of this.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's also odd too, because we've seen like older pass
rushers still be able to play extremely well late into
their career, and if you look at how the leagues
continue to evolve, it's not as if we're talking.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
About, you know, a guy who is going to be.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Going up against a lot of you know, I formations,
base personnel sets where you're gonna be playing against the
run more often than not. I mean, these guys are there,
everyone's throwing more, everyone's playing more spread formations. So he's
going to have the opportunity to be in there on
passing downs or even passing situations to impact the game. So,
you know, not only do you like to have Shamar
Stewart in there as a young player, but you'd like
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to have a veteran that at least if it's you know,
for a year, you know they can you know, they
can model this after it. And to be quite honest,
that's the other part of the equation is they're only
probably willing to do one year of guarantees because they
don't want to have to thrust Shamar Steward, as we
talked to Pete Prisco about yesterday, into starting and playing
right away. He hasn't been there all off season. They
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can't seem to figure out that contractual situation. So even
if they do get him in at some point, you'd
like him to be able to sit and watch and
then slowly work him in until he's playing a more
pivotal role. And then two years from now, you know,
let that be his opportunity to be the guy. And
at that point in time, you're going to with the
Trey Hendrickson say, hey, there's no guarantees left on this deal.
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That makes it much easier to trade. That makes us
much much easier to move on from you if we
need to, if there's an issue. You know, creates more
flexibility for the ownership.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
So you can.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Understand too why they only have one year of guarantees
in it, and and because of you know who's waiting
in the wings. And you can understand why Trey Hendrickson
would be frustrated by that because to a certain degree,
he knows that's the writing on the wall, Like he
knows exactly the move that they made. Even though you
know Sam Hubber retired, you know, they still are looking
at it saying like this is eventually going to end,
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and we've got your replacement waiting to you know, sitting
right behind you, waiting to come in for that moment.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
We just haven't Pharaoh's contract yet.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
How could Joe Burrow factor into this? Could he put
pressure on the organization publicly? I know it's not you know,
maybe his job to do that, But if he's the guy,
if he's the face of the franchise, and you know
he has spoken about yeah, listen, it's not ideal. You know,
we've got you know, he's made mention of it before
in the off season. But if they start asking him questions,
(10:38):
how could he put pressure on them to try and
get this deal done? Because he wanted to get the
t Higgins deal done, they got it done. He wanted
to get Jamar Chase done. They got it done. They
obviously got his deal done. Why not step on the
gas and put heat on the organization to get this done.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Well, that'd be a better question for him.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
But of course he could, you know, put pressure on
them by publicly stating we need to get this done
or publicly advocating for Trey and not that. I mean
that would be a comment that if he said it
out loud or to the media, I would assume Mike
Brown would be walking down to his locker soon after that.
I mean, that's that's where this thing goes. So he's
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aware of that he's been compensated handsomely. And you know,
as much as you want to help out your teammates,
there's also elements of like, well how much are you
willing to help out? And maybe that'd be a conversation
Mike Brown would wouldn't have with him, you know, But
again that hasn't happened yet, not saying it won't if
we don't get to that point. But because I'm sure
they're going to continue to keep asking Joe Burrow about this,
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and again I keep going back to the track record.
I know Bengals fans probably hate hearing this and that
sound like it's a broken record, But Carson Palmer got
frustrated with this and it eventually drove him away from
the franchise. And you have to beg It begs to
ask the question, will Joe Burrow get frustrated with this?
If every single time you know, we look at this
Bengals organization is are they willing to step up? You know,
(11:59):
we never got our clip yesterday together. Of all the
many things that I told you, Pete Prisco would say
in defense.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Of the Bengals, by the way your best performance in
the history of this show is I don't know about that,
but the.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Prediction, I mean, it's again, it's very easy to tell
with Pete because he's got his buddies and he defends
his buddies and like anyone would, but he's also blinded
to the fact that they are cheap. I mean, I
know guys who played for that organization. Trust me, they
are cheap, all right. They will any play Let's play
with them, and they play anywhere else. They'll tell you that.
(12:30):
So that being said, I do think Burrow could help,
but it might come at the expense of maybe his
relationship with Mike Brown or the organization and how that
would feel.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Like I do wonder about that when you mentioned people
who have been there, because I TJ. Hush Manzada has
talked about just how cheap they were when he was
a part of it, and then you hear the Carson
Palmer stuff. He basically just decided to retire, like really
good quarterback just decided I got to get the hell
out of here. I can't be a part of this anymore.
And I do wonder all this offseason has done, even
(13:03):
though they paid T. Higgins and even though they paid
Jamar Chase. Like, if you're a defensive player, like, are
you even considering the Bengals in free agency? Like based
on all of this. If you're a guy in the draft,
are are you looking at the Bengals when their pick
comes up and you're playing on that side of the ball, thinking, oh, please,
please not this? Like all they've done is prove people
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right about how frugal and cheap the organization is. And
Bengal fans can get pissy about it all they want.
Andy Furman just text me, by the way, all of
a sudden, he's a Bengals ball washer, a guy's been
ripping the organization for thirty five years, going all the
way back to Sam Weish, and now he's texting me.
Going but Trey's under contract. Apparently that doesn't mean anything, dude.
He's outperformed his deal. Max Crosby went down with an
(13:52):
injury last year and got paid this offseason. Miles Garrett
got paid, TJ Watt got paid. He's made Trey Henderson
is making half of what those guys have made, and
he had a better year than all of them last year. Like,
I don't there's no argument for the Bengals at this point,
and for some reason you got people like fanboys like
Andy Ferman who's gonna sit there and cave up for him.
(14:13):
It's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm not sure where you want me to go with that.
It felt like you really had something in your chest
you needed it to get out there.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Because I don't understand anybody that's saying, well, I mean
why you know, whether they want to argue the age, No,
it's about production. And if you want to argue health,
he's been healthy. But it's about production. The numbers are there,
and for some reason the contract isn't. It just doesn't
make any sense. Also, Angles are going to bangle man.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
That's what they do.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Also, there's a gnat all right, there's a gnat in
the studio that literally keeps hovering around my coffee and
it's pissing me off. And I didn't know Nats suffered
around coffee. I thought it was like, you know, when's
the last time you showered this morning?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah? And Lee's not here, so we can't even blame him.
But that's how filthy this studio though. Oh, Coop's got
great hygiene. Coops, do you, Coop?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean, i'd say so.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
I'm saying as long as like anything that Lee does
doesn't rub off on you the way I think it's
already starting to rub off on Loraina.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I know that much.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Listen, listen the difference between Coop and Lee. It's like
a night and day fire and ice.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
May. You don't seem to be bothered by it.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
So no, you know, it is what it is. You
just deal with the cards you've been dealt.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
By the way, do you know what Lee has done
to that chair? Like how many times he's like, oh,
past gas in that chair?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Have you sanitize that? Coop when you come in, like,
how's that work?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It's disgusting?
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Well seeah, he usually comes in after me. I don't
think about it, but maybe I should. And I don't
know that Lorena, like you know, is okay with it,
because there's times after the when I'm done with the
Ben Maller Show and I'm doing some post work in
the other room, and then I just hear Lorena yelling Lee,
Oh he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I think she likes it.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
There's a certain element of like love that Loveranda has
for Lee.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Quit quit goodbye?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
What does that mean? I'm just saying it. It sounds
like sometimes like you defend him. I'm like, I don't.
There's is indefensible, like the way he gases up everyone there.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I can't take that. I don't know how he I
won't stand for it. I don't know how he is
just okay with it or doesn't seem to think that
there's anything wrong with it. Nobody behaves like that, Like
Coop doesn't Coop doesn't you know, cut a fart and
then just let everybody sit in it and be like, yeah,
sorry man, chili dog last night. No, no, take it
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outside or is sorena?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Put it?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Go use the bathroom and then do it in there.
There's a reason why they call it a fart fan.
All right. You turn on a bathroom light and there's
a fart fan, so it can it can either drown
it out or suck the aroma out of the building.
Lee just lets everybody walk through his gas cloud, and
he looks around like we're the weirdos, Like why do
you guys not have issues with this?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
The other problem is like he's walking around with crap
in his pants. There are small crap particles, you know,
Like he needs to go to the restaurant house. By
the way, if you do break, if you do, I
mean we're being real, Like he literally has crapped his pants.
It's just not a complete dumbout it is.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
That is true.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Now you put it that way, that is true. God,
what a revolting human being. But Lee will be back
next week. So so for anybody that's a big fan
of Lea the Lab, he'll be back next week. We
assume if he gets through whatever this vacation is in
one piece. It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, Jonas NOx with
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Speaker 3 (19:18):
So we are going to have our Midweek Awards coming
up here in a little over twenty minutes from now.
That will be yours here on FSR. By the way,
I was thinking about this during the break because we're
on the subject of Lee's gas issues. The one thing
I do appreciate about our show is that none of
the I guess stuff that we talk about on the
air is manufactured. Like those are real stories, Like anything
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about Lee is a real story, anything about like all
of this stuff is real. And I was thinking, there's
so many shows that try and manufacture drama behind the
scenes and no, no, like we really legitimately have a producer
who's a slob, well.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Like amongst other things. As I said to you before,
someone stopped me and asked me and say, hey, does
Lee really drink as much as you guys get my
hard time?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I said more?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Yeah, more than we actually even admit to. Whatever you
think it is, it's worse. Let's probably a legit bit
problem for being serious, Like.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
The stories in New Orleans are all real, he like.
I woke up from a nap, called him and said, hey,
you want to go get something to eat? And he
said sure, and met up with him at I think
it was twelve thirty one o'clock, and he had told
me that he had already thrown up because him and
(20:43):
LeVar went to breakfast and Lee had whatever.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
The hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, they had hurricanes. He had three of them and
was already butchered by the time we got to lunch.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Yeah, he left you go.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
He finished a radio show and then fifteen minutes later
was sitting at the hotel restaurant having beignets and hurricanes
with the bar and ended up.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Actually he blamed the beignets. That was the best part.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, well that's what did it, Okay, Yeah, it wasn't
the three hurricanes you had at eight thirty morning.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
To that point he was already sitting or standing at
the bar with a hurricane. And we all walked back together.
Within the time though, I walked into the lobby and
I saw someone, So I was talking to someone and
I look, he's already at the bar with a hurricane. Yeah,
Like that's how fast you.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Find so yeah, none of these stories are made up,
so people understand these are all legitimate, These are all real.
None of it is manufactured.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Also, so different than the island trip. Right when we
walked in the stadium, we went down for the event
where you were kind of hosting with Joe Montana and I.
He just walks straight to the bar and asked for
a G and T. He didn't talk to anyone.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You've got these like younger people that are just helping out,
Like it's like banquet style, like they're just trying to
help out, and they're hired bartenders. And Lee walks up
to him says, I'll get a G and T. They're like, wait,
what what is a G and T? They already have
drinks board, the Guinness is there, and Lee goes off
script and orders a Gin and Tonic with a nickname
(22:30):
attached to it that nobody knew what it was, Like,
what is a G and T?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Yeah, he's no, I don't want to pile on here.
But the thought that crosses my mind a lot is
what do you what do you think like the monthly
expenditure is on drinks?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, that's actually tough because he he does try to fight.
I mean he drinks well drinks. He does try to
find value. Yeah, I still would put it at five
hundred bucks, and I think that's actually ridiculously high for
his consumption.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So coop, so for him, he wanted to save money
on the flight to Ireland, and so he brings these
mini bottles. So he goes to the liquor store. He
doesn't buy like Jack Daniels. He buys Evan Williams because
it's cheaper. Yeah, it's cheaper. And I swear to God,
I've never even heard of him. I swear to guy,
I had no idea what Evan Williams was until Lee
(23:25):
told me about it. And he buys these mini bottles.
He puts them in his carry on and then he'll
reach up and he'll grab stuff out of his carry
on and put it in his That's why he always
has cargo shorts, like he's got cargo shorts, because he
puts the mini bottles in the pockets on the side
of his cargo shorts. And a guy on the plane
got pissed off at him because Lee kept crossing over
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the guy to go get to his bag, and the
guy was like, dude, what do you why do you
keep going to your bag. It was because he was
taking many bottles out and putting him in his cargo
shorts so he didn't have to spend any money on
drinks on the plane.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, that's so.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
He is a bargain drinker and he knows he knows
how to do it. So good for Lee, who, by
the way, right now, I can assure you at four
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do want to get your thoughts here and to help
me out with this. The College Sports Commission, all right,
the College Sports Commission fill me in as to how
this pertained on the future of college football and how
people are getting paid moving forward.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
That was just working all right.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So the College Sports Commission, the CSC is how you're
gonna hear people talk about it. It was a newly
established independent regulatory body. It's designed to oversee and enforce
like reforms in all of college athletics from the House
and NCAA settlement, and its primary responsibility is to regulate
and enforce rules surrounding the revenue share. So in particular,
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really nil like that's the focus is. It's going to
be a third party entity that's going to look at
a lot of the deals that come through and decide
whether or not they're able or permissible under this new settlement. Now,
I'm sure there could be the potential of lawsuits someone
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challenging that, but within the past week it's already flipped
from what the thought was. So up until yesterday, there
was at that the College Sports Commission was not going
to allow these collectives, right, these alumni based groups who
are for profit entities that have put together funds to
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essentially pay players above and beyond the twenty and a
half million that each school has to pay out to
its student athletes.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
In the REV share.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
So what this ultimately means for the teams and the
universities that have the deep pockets, their rosters are only
gonna be that much deeper, that much better, and you know,
they're that much richer. So it's going to create even
more inequities within college football in my opinion, as opposed
to creating a more.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Level playing field.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
So I'm not saying this is a step back because
I'm not a fan of trying to cap what these
players are able to earn to earn, However, the collective
conversations are a little bit different. You know, that is
something that it's really outside of it being clear through
their clearinghouse process with how they go about these deals,
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there's no limit on what a team could be able
to spend. So if I mean we're getting into an
era where we're going to see a lot of the Georgia's,
Ohio States, Alabama's, I'll throw Oregon Notre Dame like a
lot of those schools in their Penn state that have
deep pockets. They're going to be able to pay above
and beyond what some other schools are able to pay
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and that's probably not good for college football is We're
gonna most likely see some teams that make Cinderella runs
into the playoff, but it's going to end rather quickly
because they're not going to be able to go up
against the big boys who have much deeper rosters and
teams as they're rolling through kids who are highly recruited
either out of high school or guys who played on
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smaller schools that want a shot to play at a
higher level and are getting paid more now. So that's
one of the big changes that just came out yesterday
in college sports.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
How does that impact Like a team like say Texas Tech,
who goes out and as all these you know, are
able to get commits from all these five stars that
they normally wouldn't have gotten in previous years, there was
a thought that, all right, well, now this is going
to even the playing field. So basically, no, that's not
the case. The usual suspects are going to have the
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advantages here as opposed.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
To someone well, no, I mean Texas Tech or anyone
else is going to have the advantage too, as long
as they have deep pockets with it.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I mean, that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
It's just allowing a lot of those nil payments not
to become part of the equation. So you're looking at
rosters that let's say, of the twenty and a half
million that's being you know, spread to student athletes at
the school just to make Mathews, let's say eighteen million
of it is going to mention, you know, is going
to football. All right, So your roster is going to
be constructive of eighteen million for everyone, with the exception
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of these other schools that now have you know, maybe
twenty million, thirty million to spend a year on these
football players they want to bring in. So it's not
an eighteen million dollar roster. It's really a thirty eight
million dollar roster or a forty eight million dollars roster.
And that's where there's going to be the inequities between
you know, Ohio States and Georgia and all these other
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schools and everyone else, because they're able to spend just
that much more.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, So Cinderella is not probably not making a run
anytime soon. In college football. I will I'll say this
when we're talking about the expanded college football Playoff and
whatever format they come up with, anything's better than the
idea that the NCAA or whoever's putting together of the
NCAA tournament for basketball, Like they're talking about seventy six teams.
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They're taught like, dude, you already have enough. You don't
need to add more teams. But for whatever reason, they
view it as well, you know, if there's an opportunity
to expand and there's more money involved, you know, we
can give other teams a chance. Anybody that's a realistic
threat to win a title or a realistic contender is
already in the tournament. So, like you just anything that
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college football is doing, and maybe it's confusing, maybe people
are sick of it, but it's better than what college
basketball is trying to implement, which is expanding their tournament
to try and add more teams when they've already got
sixty eight. It just I don't know what that does
to play in games. I don't know what that does.
It just feels like everybody's trying to get as much
cash as they can and it's taking away from what
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should be a specialized and a special tournament that everybody
looks forward to each March. So whatever college football is doing,
I'll take it over. Whatever college basketball is trying to
do that well.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
In college basketball's defense, and I haven't seen that or
don't really know how they're going to handle the playing games.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
But what's that a quarter of the.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
College basketball teams and men's basketball, there's what three three
hundred teams in Division one something like that. Yeah, so
if you go to about that number, it be about
a quarter of the teams that get access to it.
So I think when you actually do the math on it,
I don't have quite as big of an issue. I
just it kind of goes back to the initial conversation
we're having if we're going to go down this route.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
College football is always about the regular.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Season, and then we go about you know, naming who
the national champion was, and you can argue like, hey,
this wasn't the best way of doing it, but it
made for more compelling matchups, rivalries, non conference games, et cetera.
And now with the way ESPN's impacting, it's it's almost
changing it to a college basketball model. Whereas like, if
you look at college basketball, what's the only thing you
(31:23):
can remember or think of when you think of college basketball.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
It's March Madness.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, it's a tournament, and that's what's I think a
big shift between you know, what's happening in college sports is,
besides it becoming less regionalized and more nationalized with the
brands and a lot of the events, it's also becoming
something that we're looking at it entirely different. We're now
just once again saying, well, ho hum, like we'll see
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when they get in the playoff.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I mean, if you watched.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Ohio State finished last season, and you could tell me
on Sunday the day after they got beat by Michigan
for the fourth year in a row, if you could
have sat there and told me that they were going
to win a national championship, I'd be I'd laugh at you.
I don't think anyone thought that was going to.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Be the case.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
They still dominant at times in the playoff, like what
they were doing to Oregon.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I mean sure, but we didn't see that no, at
any point time really in the season, maybe a quarter
of it or half of it. So I just think
it changes the entire way right now with the way
things are evolving with how we view the sport really
in college sports, but in particular college football. When you
look at the things you focus on the most now
and now it's just all about getting the playoff and
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how many teams get in.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
How are we constructing that model?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Are you getting the itch to go back to Ireland
when you see when you see, I mean listen in
Iowa State, Kansas State, I can't imagine it's going to
draw the same interest that Notre Dame did back But
you know, we are coming up on the two year
anniversary when we went to Ireland to go cover that event.
Which is one of the great experiences that I've had
in broadcasting, was being able to go to Dublin and
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see that scene. Even though look maybe had no shot whatsoever.
There were a few fans that rolled out, but to
see the way Notre Dame fans packed that country in
that city to take that all in, I just can't
imagine that Ioways stayed in Kansas State or are going
to be able to pull the same draw there in Dublin. Well.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
I actually talked to Matt Campbell about this. He was excited,
you know, he was super excited for the opportunity to
go over there, the fan base, the players, just.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
To see it. He thought it was really neat.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
And he'd always been over there for some promotional stuff,
but I'm still excited for the flyover, Like that was
the one thing where if there was a takeaway it
was all right. They don't do this often, because every
taxi driver we had was mentioning that, like how excited
they were for the flyover, and then his like and
I mean, the national anthem is being played, and there's
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all these people who are like kind of talking making
noise because they could hear the planes coming, but there
it was so overcast they couldn't really see it. And
then once you saw, you're like, oh, oh god, that
was that was a little low, Like maybe maybe the
practice is a little bit more. That was a little
too close to the stadium for comfort there, But I'm
excited for I mean again, that's you know, that'll be
(34:12):
a fun matchup. Hopefully we can get back there in
the future. I just want to acknowledge this, and I
think Coop and Lorena can probably chime in on this.
You are so awkward in public settings. It's really hard.
It's really hard between you and Lee. It's really hard
to go out with you guys, because you want to
be like in a corner at like a pub. Lee
doesn't care where he's at and then it's just it's
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really hard to get you to to like figure out
how to go in one direction.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Listen, I like to hang out. I'm not into the
whole the production of things. You like to sign the
autographs and take pictures and do all that and kind of,
you know, buddy up to everybody there, not me. I go,
I find a spot, I sit down, I have a
couple of drinks, and I'm good. I don't need the attention.
I don't want to talk to anybody. I just want
to hang out and relax. And Pete just totally peaceful, quiet.
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You guys like the rave atmosphere of the fans, the line.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
You're incredibly indecisive on what you want to do and
what you're looking for. Lee will do anything. So like
the combination of you two together isn't good? Okay?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Is this because of the one night we went out?
First of all? That was bad on both of us.
I'm not going to take the rap for that, because
we were trusting Lee to steer us in a direction
of finding a spot, and there was at one point
and I'm not making this up. Do you remember Lee
walking through the streets. He was like like waving to
his nose and we're like, Lee, what are you doing?
(35:37):
He goes, I'm trying to I'm trying to get a sense.
I'm trying to smell. You know, you got to have
you have a smell, so my smell test knows where
we can take us. I'm like, you've never been here before.
You have no idea what Dublin smells like. So that
was on us. He knows what drug smells like, that's
for sure. Yeah, so well listen. I would say this
another memory I had from Dublin since we are a
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month away from the start of the college football seats.
And the one thing that I did notice, and I
noticed it this weekend going into the Pacquiao Barrios fight
in Vegas, like they really didn't check at all to
see if anybody was carrying anything to walk into the stadium,
Like I think they might just looked at our ticket,
and we just walked right in, and I was We went.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
In early, though, so we were kind of before like
the general crowd, so I think we had a little
bit a little bit of a different circumstance.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
So everybody else got check for weapons, not us. Yeah,
I'm sure that did that's the that's the trick. It
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Speaker 2 (37:32):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly all right? Justin Cooper, who's got what
this week? All right, Jonas, looks like you've got the good.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
All right, here's your good. We are a little over
a week away from the start of the NFL season,
and I don't want to hear anybody saying anything about, oh,
it's preseason. It's just in that no, no, kiss my
as it's the Hall of Fame game. It counts. These
are actual teams with actual players, a couple of meatheads
(38:07):
for coaches, and Jim Harbaugh and Dan Campbell. It is
a little over a week away, so we've gotten past
all the other stuff that we've had to go through
this offseason that we were force fed in other sports
and leagues, etc. Football is back training, camps are firing up,
and we've got actual football coming up next week.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
That's the good, all right. Well, we got Brady with
the band.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Oh okay, I can go a number of different directions here.
I think one personal thing that's kind of bothered me though,
is the reaction to Scotty Scheffler's personality. How all of
a sudden it's open season on Scotty Scheffler and how
he would like to win tournaments and conduct himself and
just decide to be a normal human being and want
(38:53):
to be with his family and not, you know, as
some have said, he's not elevating the game. It's like,
can we just let the guy be who he is?
Can we accept him for who he is? Do we
have to try to compare him to Tiger or whoever
else you want to compare him to Englf? Like why
can't we just appreciate him for what he's doing the
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greatest he's displayed as.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
A golfer and leave it at that, Like we don't
need to.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Talk about, well, if he's boring or how are people
would describe his personality or his reactions, That's okay, that's okay.
Like sports has players who are really boring. In fact,
some of the greatest players of all time. You would
find their day to day activities monotonous and boring because
they're trying to become extraordinary at every little thing. So
(39:43):
can we just can we stop with the Scotti Scheffler
and what he is or what he isn't and just
appreciate him for what he's doing right now?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
All right?
Speaker 7 (39:53):
Coop, Hey man, well, I've got the I've got the
ugly here. And this is a breaking news. Actually, the
doctor accused of flying Matthew Perry with ketamine is expected
to please guilty on Wednesday. He faces forty years for
ketamine distribution. And this is a guy that texted that
Matthew Perry was a moron, charging forty five dollars.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
For the drugs. Yeah, I hope this guy goes away
for a while. So Minus Football's back.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Brady's defending it's an ugly, it's an ugly story. Coop's
got a ketamine overdosing the story. Yes, it is ugly,
that is that is for sure.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
It's ugly, but.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
We usually stay in the world with sports. But okay, well,
whatever you want to do, man, it's your.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
It's your deal.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
I was told anything
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh yeah, come on, Brady.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
This is a perfect song, by the way, for segueing
to the topic we're gonna talk about next.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, I have no idea what even this song is.
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And we've got Brady Quinn live in Las Vegas. By
the way, you able to get a nice restaurant in
Vegas has got plenty. Were you able to partake in
some good eats.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
You may find this you may find this a bit surprising, Jonas,
But given our time slot and how that impacts my
life out here, no, absolutely not. I'll usually try to
after this, pack up my stuff, get ready to head over,
and you were kind of taping interviews throughout the rest
of the day. So unfortunately, no, due to this radio
(01:37):
show in our time slot, I've not gotten to indulge
or even throw. You know, craps, play a hand of blackjack,
you know, a little roulette, nothing.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I've had craps explained to me at least one hundred times,
and I still don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
You do blackjack, right, you can fear that out?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, blackjack, but that feels easy. But then you've got
the pass line, you've got you know, if it's a
seven or eleven?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, yeah, first roll.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Okay. Still I don't understand it, And maybe it's because
I'm bombed every time somebody's explaining it to me, but
I do not understand how you win it crafts and
everything that I hear from everybody is that if that's
the game, if you want to win, that's the one
that you win the most at, Like if you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Win any I mean, first role are your best odds
that after that it goes downhill.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
But it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'll say that for anyone who's been with a group
of people playing craps, it can be so much fun.
You also can lose a lot of money really fast,
so you have to be careful about playing that particular game.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The one that got me was three card poker, and
it got me because the first hand I ever played,
I pulled three eights and I ended up winning like
three hundred bucks or whatever it was, and I was hooked.
And I've never won. That's used like a fortune. I've
never won since, not one time, and I fall forward
every time because you've got to annie up. But you've
got it's more on top of more on top of more,
(03:03):
so you end up losing your ass. So for anybody
out there who was losing their ass in Vegas, you know,
thoughts and prayers and hopefully hopefully things will turn around
for you later on. Today we do have some hopes
that maybe things will turn around for somebody in the
NFL and that's somebody is none other than Trey Hendrickson,
the star pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals. This from
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Diana Rossini, who wrote this on social media yesterday on
x Quote. Just spoke to Bengals pass rusher Trey Hendrickson,
who is currently in Jacksonville. For the last thirty days,
He'd been at his home in Cincinnati and training, but
his training camp approached, he and his wife decided to leave.
They received two offers and a twenty four hour span,
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none containing the guarantees passed the first year he was
looking for. Hendrickson didn't want to hear the practice whistles
while being a distraction to his teammates, so he and
his wife Alyssa, decided I had to pack up and
head to Florida. Down in Jacksonville, Hendrickson continues to train,
hoping that a deal could be worked out.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I was more than willing to take less in some
ways in order to make this work. So that from
Diana Rossini on the subject of Trey Hendrickson and why
he has not agreed to a deal with the Cincinnati Bengals.
I mean it just it discontinues on and I get
this funny feeling this thing's going to end poorly. Either
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he's going to get traded or he's just not going
to get a deal with the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Based on that report, does it feel like the Bengals
are almost betting against him being able to keep this
sort of productivity?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
And that's what it feels like. If you're only able
to give.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Him one year of guarantees in the deal, you're looking
at his age and you're saying he's either going to
be subject to injury or he's going to have a
dramatic decline in his level of play. Now, I also
say this too about Al Golden, and we you and
I have talked about this before in regards to scheme
and sometimes the coordinators and how that can play a
(05:03):
factor into how they value players, and some organizations and
how those coaches play a factor in how much they value,
you know, a big contract extension like this, because if
you've got a more elaborate scheme, where're gonna be pressuring
like Al Golden does. And I assume what he did
a Notre Dame WI Vise very similar to what he's
going to do in Cincinnati. I'm not saying that you
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don't need talented players. You always need talented players. But
when you talk about a guy who's got what seventeen
sacks the past two years, you know you are at
times trying to isolate him and you can get away
with a four man rush because he's so productive, and
I'm sure every defense coordinator would love that luxury. But
if you're a guy who likes to bring pressure and
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likes to, you know, do a variety of things, maybe
not as necessary, right because you're going to find a
way of getting free runners based on the protection, and
you're going to scheme up some things to get pressure.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
You don't need to necessarily pay you.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
A ton of money out for it if that's the case.
So I do wonder how you know that new defensive
scheme without golden calling the defense is factors in to
some degree to to any of this. But when I
hear only one year of guarantees, what it's saying to
me is like they don't believe that he's going to
be able to maintain his production. They don't believe he's
going to be able to maintain his level of health,
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which is unfortunate. So hopefully they can get to a
point where they at least give him two years of guarantees.
You know, it used to be quarterbacks were the only
ones who got into the third year. We're seeing some
of the top players now other positions get that. And
we've obviously seen players like Deshaun Watson get a fully
guaranteed deal, but those are few and far between.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
As we know.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The owners have colluded to make sure that doesn't happen again.
This is what doesn't make any sense about what the
Bengals are doing. If this is the approach, and the
report is true, he's only getting one year of guarantees.
I could understand if there was a history of injuries,
especially over the past couple of years, as he's gotten older.
There hasn't he started every game the past two years.
(07:01):
He's gotten better as the contract has gone on from
twenty twenty one to now, he's gotten better, and he's
been healthy the previous two years. So if anybody's got
a gripe, or if anybody's got a hey, you know,
look at what I've done. There's no evidence to support
(07:21):
the fact that maybe I'm slipping as I'm getting a
little bit older. In fact, I've gotten better the previous
two seasons it's Trey Hendrickson. And yet for some reason,
if that's the case, and the Bengals are like, yeah,
we're just not sure if you can keep this up.
What has given you any indication of that. He hasn't
missed games like he's produced. He's been one of your
only producers on the defensive side of the ball. Without him,
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what is this defense? And then it goes to the
Shamar Stewart stuff where it's like, Okay, well, at least
we've got a backup plan. You don't even have that
like that. That's the part of this I don't understand.
And I know that you're paying somebody not for what
they've did, for what they can do, but at a
certain point you do have to look at this and go,
what evidence do we have to support us thinking that
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he can't last, or that he can't hold up physically
or whatever it is at this at this stage of
his career, when all the evidence would point to no,
he actually has and in fact, he's gotten better the
previous two years.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
That's a part of this.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's also odd too, because we've seen like older pass
rushers still be able to play extremely well late into
their career, and if you look at how the leagues
continue to evolve, it's not as if we're talking.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
About, you know, a guy who is going to be.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Going up against a lot of you know, I formations,
base personnel sets where you're gonna be playing against the
run more often than not. I mean, these guys are there,
everyone's throwing more, everyone's playing more spread formations. So he's
going to have the opportunity to be in there on
passing downs or even passing situations to impact the game. So,
you know, not only do you like to have Shamar
Stewart in there as a young player, but you'd like
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to have a veteran that at least if it's you know,
for a year, you know they can you know, they
can model this after it. And to be quite honest,
that's the other part of the equation is they're only
probably willing to do one year of guarantees because they
don't want to have to thrust Shamar Steward, as we
talked to Pete Prisco about yesterday, into starting and playing
right away. He hasn't been there all off season. They
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can't seem to figure out that contractual situation. So even
if they do get him in at some point, you'd
like him to be able to sit and watch and
then slowly work him in until he's playing a more
pivotal role. And then two years from now, you know,
let that be his opportunity to be the guy. And
at that point in time, you're going to with the
Trey Hendrickson say, hey, there's no guarantees left on this deal.
(09:39):
That makes it much easier to trade. That makes us
much much easier to move on from you if we
need to, if there's an issue. You know, creates more
flexibility for the ownership.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
So you can.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Understand too why they only have one year of guarantees
in it, and and because of you know who's waiting
in the wings. And you can understand why Trey Hendrickson
would be frustrated by that because to a certain degree,
he knows that's the writing on the wall, Like he
knows exactly the move that they made. Even though you
know Sam Hubber retired, you know, they still are looking
at it saying like this is eventually going to end,
(10:10):
and we've got your replacement waiting to you know, sitting
right behind you, waiting to come in for that moment.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
We just haven't Pharaoh's contract yet.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
How could Joe Burrow factor into this? Could he put
pressure on the organization publicly? I know it's not you know,
maybe his job to do that, But if he's the guy,
if he's the face of the franchise, and you know
he has spoken about yeah, listen, it's not ideal. You know,
we've got you know, he's made mention of it before
in the off season. But if they start asking him questions,
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how could he put pressure on them to try and
get this deal done? Because he wanted to get the
t Higgins deal done, they got it done. He wanted
to get Jamar Chase done. They got it done. They
obviously got his deal done. Why not step on the
gas and put heat on the organization to get this done.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Well, that'd be a better question for him.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
But of course he could, you know, put pressure on
them by publicly stating we need to get this done
or publicly advocating for Trey and not that. I mean
that would be a comment that if he said it
out loud or to the media, I would assume Mike
Brown would be walking down to his locker soon after that.
I mean, that's that's where this thing goes. So he's
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aware of that he's been compensated handsomely. And you know,
as much as you want to help out your teammates,
there's also elements of like, well how much are you
willing to help out? And maybe that'd be a conversation
Mike Brown would wouldn't have with him, you know, But
again that hasn't happened yet, not saying it won't if
we don't get to that point. But because I'm sure
they're going to continue to keep asking Joe Burrow about this,
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and again I keep going back to the track record.
I know Bengals fans probably hate hearing this and that
sound like it's a broken record, But Carson Palmer got
frustrated with this and it eventually drove him away from
the franchise. And you have to beg It begs to
ask the question, will Joe Burrow get frustrated with this?
If every single time you know, we look at this
Bengals organization is are they willing to step up? You know,
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we never got our clip yesterday together. Of all the
many things that I told you, Pete Prisco would say
in defense.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Of the Bengals, by the way your best performance in
the history of this show is I don't know about that,
but the.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Prediction, I mean, it's again, it's very easy to tell
with Pete because he's got his buddies and he defends
his buddies and like anyone would, but he's also blinded
to the fact that they are cheap. I mean, I
know guys who played for that organization. Trust me, they
are cheap, all right. They will any play Let's play
with them, and they play anywhere else. They'll tell you that.
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So that being said, I do think Burrow could help,
but it might come at the expense of maybe his
relationship with Mike Brown or the organization and how that
would feel.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Like I do wonder about that when you mentioned people
who have been there, because I TJ. Hush Manzada has
talked about just how cheap they were when he was
a part of it, and then you hear the Carson
Palmer stuff. He basically just decided to retire, like really
good quarterback just decided I got to get the hell
out of here. I can't be a part of this anymore.
And I do wonder all this offseason has done, even
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though they paid T. Higgins and even though they paid
Jamar Chase. Like, if you're a defensive player, like, are
you even considering the Bengals in free agency? Like based
on all of this. If you're a guy in the draft,
are are you looking at the Bengals when their pick
comes up and you're playing on that side of the ball, thinking, oh, please,
please not this? Like all they've done is prove people
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right about how frugal and cheap the organization is. And
Bengal fans can get pissy about it all they want.
Andy Furman just text me, by the way, all of
a sudden, he's a Bengals ball washer, a guy's been
ripping the organization for thirty five years, going all the
way back to Sam Weish, and now he's texting me.
Going but Trey's under contract. Apparently that doesn't mean anything, dude.
He's outperformed his deal. Max Crosby went down with an
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injury last year and got paid this offseason. Miles Garrett
got paid, TJ Watt got paid. He's made Trey Henderson
is making half of what those guys have made, and
he had a better year than all of them last year. Like,
I don't there's no argument for the Bengals at this point,
and for some reason you got people like fanboys like
Andy Ferman who's gonna sit there and cave up for him.
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It's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm not sure where you want me to go with that.
It felt like you really had something in your chest
you needed it to get out there.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Because I don't understand anybody that's saying, well, I mean
why you know, whether they want to argue the age, No,
it's about production. And if you want to argue health,
he's been healthy. But it's about production. The numbers are there,
and for some reason the contract isn't. It just doesn't
make any sense. Also, Angles are going to bangle man.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
That's what they do.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Also, there's a gnat all right, there's a gnat in
the studio that literally keeps hovering around my coffee and
it's pissing me off. And I didn't know Nats suffered
around coffee. I thought it was like, you know, when's
the last time you showered this morning?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah? And Lee's not here, so we can't even blame him.
But that's how filthy this studio though. Oh, Coop's got
great hygiene. Coops, do you, Coop?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean, i'd say so.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
I'm saying as long as like anything that Lee does
doesn't rub off on you the way I think it's
already starting to rub off on Loraina.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I know that much.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Listen, listen the difference between Coop and Lee. It's like
a night and day fire and ice.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
May. You don't seem to be bothered by it.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
So no, you know, it is what it is. You
just deal with the cards you've been dealt.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
By the way, do you know what Lee has done
to that chair? Like how many times he's like, oh,
past gas in that chair?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Have you sanitize that? Coop when you come in, like,
how's that work?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It's disgusting?
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Well seeah, he usually comes in after me. I don't
think about it, but maybe I should. And I don't
know that Lorena, like you know, is okay with it,
because there's times after the when I'm done with the
Ben Maller Show and I'm doing some post work in
the other room, and then I just hear Lorena yelling Lee,
Oh he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I think she likes it.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
There's a certain element of like love that Loveranda has
for Lee.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Quit quit goodbye?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
What does that mean? I'm just saying it. It sounds
like sometimes like you defend him. I'm like, I don't.
There's is indefensible, like the way he gases up everyone there.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I can't take that. I don't know how he I
won't stand for it. I don't know how he is
just okay with it or doesn't seem to think that
there's anything wrong with it. Nobody behaves like that, Like
Coop doesn't Coop doesn't you know, cut a fart and
then just let everybody sit in it and be like, yeah,
sorry man, chili dog last night. No, no, take it
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outside or is sorena?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Put it?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Go use the bathroom and then do it in there.
There's a reason why they call it a fart fan.
All right. You turn on a bathroom light and there's
a fart fan, so it can it can either drown
it out or suck the aroma out of the building.
Lee just lets everybody walk through his gas cloud, and
he looks around like we're the weirdos, Like why do
you guys not have issues with this?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
The other problem is like he's walking around with crap
in his pants. There are small crap particles, you know,
Like he needs to go to the restaurant house. By
the way, if you do break, if you do, I
mean we're being real, Like he literally has crapped his pants.
It's just not a complete dumbout it is.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
That is true.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Now you put it that way, that is true. God,
what a revolting human being. But Lee will be back
next week. So so for anybody that's a big fan
of Lea the Lab, he'll be back next week. We
assume if he gets through whatever this vacation is in
one piece. It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, Jonas NOx with
you here. Coming up next though, we are going to
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Speaker 3 (19:18):
So we are going to have our Midweek Awards coming
up here in a little over twenty minutes from now.
That will be yours here on FSR. By the way,
I was thinking about this during the break because we're
on the subject of Lee's gas issues. The one thing
I do appreciate about our show is that none of
the I guess stuff that we talk about on the
air is manufactured. Like those are real stories, Like anything
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about Lee is a real story, anything about like all
of this stuff is real. And I was thinking, there's
so many shows that try and manufacture drama behind the
scenes and no, no, like we really legitimately have a producer
who's a slob, well.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Like amongst other things. As I said to you before,
someone stopped me and asked me and say, hey, does
Lee really drink as much as you guys get my
hard time?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I said more?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Yeah, more than we actually even admit to. Whatever you
think it is, it's worse. Let's probably a legit bit
problem for being serious, Like.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
The stories in New Orleans are all real, he like.
I woke up from a nap, called him and said, hey,
you want to go get something to eat? And he
said sure, and met up with him at I think
it was twelve thirty one o'clock, and he had told
me that he had already thrown up because him and
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LeVar went to breakfast and Lee had whatever.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
The hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, they had hurricanes. He had three of them and
was already butchered by the time we got to lunch.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Yeah, he left you go.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
He finished a radio show and then fifteen minutes later
was sitting at the hotel restaurant having beignets and hurricanes
with the bar and ended up.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Actually he blamed the beignets. That was the best part.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, well that's what did it, Okay, Yeah, it wasn't
the three hurricanes you had at eight thirty morning.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
To that point he was already sitting or standing at
the bar with a hurricane. And we all walked back together.
Within the time though, I walked into the lobby and
I saw someone, So I was talking to someone and
I look, he's already at the bar with a hurricane. Yeah,
Like that's how fast you.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Find so yeah, none of these stories are made up,
so people understand these are all legitimate, These are all real.
None of it is manufactured.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Also, so different than the island trip. Right when we
walked in the stadium, we went down for the event
where you were kind of hosting with Joe Montana and I.
He just walks straight to the bar and asked for
a G and T. He didn't talk to anyone.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You've got these like younger people that are just helping out,
Like it's like banquet style, like they're just trying to
help out, and they're hired bartenders. And Lee walks up
to him says, I'll get a G and T. They're like, wait,
what what is a G and T? They already have
drinks board, the Guinness is there, and Lee goes off
script and orders a Gin and Tonic with a nickname
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attached to it that nobody knew what it was, Like,
what is a G and T?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Yeah, he's no, I don't want to pile on here.
But the thought that crosses my mind a lot is
what do you what do you think like the monthly
expenditure is on drinks?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, that's actually tough because he he does try to fight.
I mean he drinks well drinks. He does try to
find value. Yeah, I still would put it at five
hundred bucks, and I think that's actually ridiculously high for
his consumption.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So coop, so for him, he wanted to save money
on the flight to Ireland, and so he brings these
mini bottles. So he goes to the liquor store. He
doesn't buy like Jack Daniels. He buys Evan Williams because
it's cheaper. Yeah, it's cheaper. And I swear to God,
I've never even heard of him. I swear to guy,
I had no idea what Evan Williams was until Lee
(23:25):
told me about it. And he buys these mini bottles.
He puts them in his carry on and then he'll
reach up and he'll grab stuff out of his carry
on and put it in his That's why he always
has cargo shorts, like he's got cargo shorts, because he
puts the mini bottles in the pockets on the side
of his cargo shorts. And a guy on the plane
got pissed off at him because Lee kept crossing over
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the guy to go get to his bag, and the
guy was like, dude, what do you why do you
keep going to your bag. It was because he was
taking many bottles out and putting him in his cargo
shorts so he didn't have to spend any money on
drinks on the plane.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, that's so.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
He is a bargain drinker and he knows he knows
how to do it. So good for Lee, who, by
the way, right now, I can assure you at four
thirty two Pacific time is drinking. I can assure you
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Go to the Home Depot where the pros go. I
do want to get your thoughts here and to help
me out with this. The College Sports Commission, all right,
the College Sports Commission fill me in as to how
this pertained on the future of college football and how
people are getting paid moving forward.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
That was just working all right.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So the College Sports Commission, the CSC is how you're
gonna hear people talk about it. It was a newly
established independent regulatory body. It's designed to oversee and enforce
like reforms in all of college athletics from the House
and NCAA settlement, and its primary responsibility is to regulate
and enforce rules surrounding the revenue share. So in particular,
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really nil like that's the focus is. It's going to
be a third party entity that's going to look at
a lot of the deals that come through and decide
whether or not they're able or permissible under this new settlement. Now,
I'm sure there could be the potential of lawsuits someone
(25:50):
challenging that, but within the past week it's already flipped
from what the thought was. So up until yesterday, there
was at that the College Sports Commission was not going
to allow these collectives, right, these alumni based groups who
are for profit entities that have put together funds to
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essentially pay players above and beyond the twenty and a
half million that each school has to pay out to
its student athletes.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
In the REV share.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
So what this ultimately means for the teams and the
universities that have the deep pockets, their rosters are only
gonna be that much deeper, that much better, and you know,
they're that much richer. So it's going to create even
more inequities within college football in my opinion, as opposed
to creating a more.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Level playing field.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
So I'm not saying this is a step back because
I'm not a fan of trying to cap what these
players are able to earn to earn, However, the collective
conversations are a little bit different. You know, that is
something that it's really outside of it being clear through
their clearinghouse process with how they go about these deals,
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there's no limit on what a team could be able
to spend. So if I mean we're getting into an
era where we're going to see a lot of the Georgia's,
Ohio States, Alabama's, I'll throw Oregon Notre Dame like a
lot of those schools in their Penn state that have
deep pockets. They're going to be able to pay above
and beyond what some other schools are able to pay
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and that's probably not good for college football is We're
gonna most likely see some teams that make Cinderella runs
into the playoff, but it's going to end rather quickly
because they're not going to be able to go up
against the big boys who have much deeper rosters and
teams as they're rolling through kids who are highly recruited
either out of high school or guys who played on
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smaller schools that want a shot to play at a
higher level and are getting paid more now. So that's
one of the big changes that just came out yesterday
in college sports.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
How does that impact Like a team like say Texas Tech,
who goes out and as all these you know, are
able to get commits from all these five stars that
they normally wouldn't have gotten in previous years, there was
a thought that, all right, well, now this is going
to even the playing field. So basically, no, that's not
the case. The usual suspects are going to have the
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advantages here as opposed.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
To someone well, no, I mean Texas Tech or anyone
else is going to have the advantage too, as long
as they have deep pockets with it.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I mean, that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
It's just allowing a lot of those nil payments not
to become part of the equation. So you're looking at
rosters that let's say, of the twenty and a half
million that's being you know, spread to student athletes at
the school just to make Mathews, let's say eighteen million
of it is going to mention, you know, is going
to football. All right, So your roster is going to
be constructive of eighteen million for everyone, with the exception
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of these other schools that now have you know, maybe
twenty million, thirty million to spend a year on these
football players they want to bring in. So it's not
an eighteen million dollar roster. It's really a thirty eight
million dollar roster or a forty eight million dollars roster.
And that's where there's going to be the inequities between
you know, Ohio States and Georgia and all these other
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schools and everyone else, because they're able to spend just
that much more.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, So Cinderella is not probably not making a run
anytime soon. In college football. I will I'll say this
when we're talking about the expanded college football Playoff and
whatever format they come up with, anything's better than the
idea that the NCAA or whoever's putting together of the
NCAA tournament for basketball, Like they're talking about seventy six teams.
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They're taught like, dude, you already have enough. You don't
need to add more teams. But for whatever reason, they
view it as well, you know, if there's an opportunity
to expand and there's more money involved, you know, we
can give other teams a chance. Anybody that's a realistic
threat to win a title or a realistic contender is
already in the tournament. So, like you just anything that
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college football is doing, and maybe it's confusing, maybe people
are sick of it, but it's better than what college
basketball is trying to implement, which is expanding their tournament
to try and add more teams when they've already got
sixty eight. It just I don't know what that does
to play in games. I don't know what that does.
It just feels like everybody's trying to get as much
cash as they can and it's taking away from what
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should be a specialized and a special tournament that everybody
looks forward to each March. So whatever college football is doing,
I'll take it over. Whatever college basketball is trying to
do that well.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
In college basketball's defense, and I haven't seen that or
don't really know how they're going to handle the playing games.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
But what's that a quarter of the.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
College basketball teams and men's basketball, there's what three three
hundred teams in Division one something like that. Yeah, so
if you go to about that number, it be about
a quarter of the teams that get access to it.
So I think when you actually do the math on it,
I don't have quite as big of an issue. I
just it kind of goes back to the initial conversation
we're having if we're going to go down this route.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
College football is always about the regular.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Season, and then we go about you know, naming who
the national champion was, and you can argue like, hey,
this wasn't the best way of doing it, but it
made for more compelling matchups, rivalries, non conference games, et cetera.
And now with the way ESPN's impacting, it's it's almost
changing it to a college basketball model. Whereas like, if
you look at college basketball, what's the only thing you
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can remember or think of when you think of college basketball.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
It's March Madness.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, it's a tournament, and that's what's I think a
big shift between you know, what's happening in college sports is,
besides it becoming less regionalized and more nationalized with the
brands and a lot of the events, it's also becoming
something that we're looking at it entirely different. We're now
just once again saying, well, ho hum, like we'll see
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when they get in the playoff.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I mean, if you watched.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Ohio State finished last season, and you could tell me
on Sunday the day after they got beat by Michigan
for the fourth year in a row, if you could
have sat there and told me that they were going
to win a national championship, I'd be I'd laugh at you.
I don't think anyone thought that was going to.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Be the case.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
They still dominant at times in the playoff, like what
they were doing to Oregon.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I mean sure, but we didn't see that no, at
any point time really in the season, maybe a quarter
of it or half of it. So I just think
it changes the entire way right now with the way
things are evolving with how we view the sport really
in college sports, but in particular college football. When you
look at the things you focus on the most now
and now it's just all about getting the playoff and
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how many teams get in.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
How are we constructing that model?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Are you getting the itch to go back to Ireland
when you see when you see, I mean listen in
Iowa State, Kansas State, I can't imagine it's going to
draw the same interest that Notre Dame did back But
you know, we are coming up on the two year
anniversary when we went to Ireland to go cover that event.
Which is one of the great experiences that I've had
in broadcasting, was being able to go to Dublin and
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see that scene. Even though look maybe had no shot whatsoever.
There were a few fans that rolled out, but to
see the way Notre Dame fans packed that country in
that city to take that all in, I just can't
imagine that Ioways stayed in Kansas State or are going
to be able to pull the same draw there in Dublin. Well.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
I actually talked to Matt Campbell about this. He was excited,
you know, he was super excited for the opportunity to
go over there, the fan base, the players, just.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
To see it. He thought it was really neat.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
And he'd always been over there for some promotional stuff,
but I'm still excited for the flyover, Like that was
the one thing where if there was a takeaway it
was all right. They don't do this often, because every
taxi driver we had was mentioning that, like how excited
they were for the flyover, and then his like and
I mean, the national anthem is being played, and there's
(33:50):
all these people who are like kind of talking making
noise because they could hear the planes coming, but there
it was so overcast they couldn't really see it. And
then once you saw, you're like, oh, oh god, that
was that was a little low, Like maybe maybe the
practice is a little bit more. That was a little
too close to the stadium for comfort there, But I'm
excited for I mean again, that's you know, that'll be
(34:12):
a fun matchup. Hopefully we can get back there in
the future. I just want to acknowledge this, and I
think Coop and Lorena can probably chime in on this.
You are so awkward in public settings. It's really hard.
It's really hard between you and Lee. It's really hard
to go out with you guys, because you want to
be like in a corner at like a pub. Lee
doesn't care where he's at and then it's just it's
(34:34):
really hard to get you to to like figure out
how to go in one direction.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Listen, I like to hang out. I'm not into the
whole the production of things. You like to sign the
autographs and take pictures and do all that and kind of,
you know, buddy up to everybody there, not me. I go,
I find a spot, I sit down, I have a
couple of drinks, and I'm good. I don't need the attention.
I don't want to talk to anybody. I just want
to hang out and relax. And Pete just totally peaceful, quiet.
(35:01):
You guys like the rave atmosphere of the fans, the line.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
You're incredibly indecisive on what you want to do and
what you're looking for. Lee will do anything. So like
the combination of you two together isn't good? Okay?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Is this because of the one night we went out?
First of all? That was bad on both of us.
I'm not going to take the rap for that, because
we were trusting Lee to steer us in a direction
of finding a spot, and there was at one point
and I'm not making this up. Do you remember Lee
walking through the streets. He was like like waving to
his nose and we're like, Lee, what are you doing?
(35:37):
He goes, I'm trying to I'm trying to get a sense.
I'm trying to smell. You know, you got to have
you have a smell, so my smell test knows where
we can take us. I'm like, you've never been here before.
You have no idea what Dublin smells like. So that
was on us. He knows what drug smells like, that's
for sure. Yeah, so well listen. I would say this
another memory I had from Dublin since we are a
(35:57):
month away from the start of the college football seats.
And the one thing that I did notice, and I
noticed it this weekend going into the Pacquiao Barrios fight
in Vegas, like they really didn't check at all to
see if anybody was carrying anything to walk into the stadium,
Like I think they might just looked at our ticket,
and we just walked right in, and I was We went.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
In early, though, so we were kind of before like
the general crowd, so I think we had a little
bit a little bit of a different circumstance.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
So everybody else got check for weapons, not us. Yeah,
I'm sure that did that's the that's the trick. It
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Speaker 2 (37:32):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly all right? Justin Cooper, who's got what
this week? All right, Jonas, looks like you've got the good.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
All right, here's your good. We are a little over
a week away from the start of the NFL season,
and I don't want to hear anybody saying anything about, oh,
it's preseason. It's just in that no, no, kiss my
as it's the Hall of Fame game. It counts. These
are actual teams with actual players, a couple of meatheads
(38:07):
for coaches, and Jim Harbaugh and Dan Campbell. It is
a little over a week away, so we've gotten past
all the other stuff that we've had to go through
this offseason that we were force fed in other sports
and leagues, etc. Football is back training, camps are firing up,
and we've got actual football coming up next week.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
That's the good, all right. Well, we got Brady with
the band.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Oh okay, I can go a number of different directions here.
I think one personal thing that's kind of bothered me though,
is the reaction to Scotty Scheffler's personality. How all of
a sudden it's open season on Scotty Scheffler and how
he would like to win tournaments and conduct himself and
just decide to be a normal human being and want
(38:53):
to be with his family and not, you know, as
some have said, he's not elevating the game. It's like,
can we just let the guy be who he is?
Can we accept him for who he is? Do we
have to try to compare him to Tiger or whoever
else you want to compare him to Englf? Like why
can't we just appreciate him for what he's doing the
(39:14):
greatest he's displayed as.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
A golfer and leave it at that, Like we don't
need to.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Talk about, well, if he's boring or how are people
would describe his personality or his reactions, That's okay, that's okay.
Like sports has players who are really boring. In fact,
some of the greatest players of all time. You would
find their day to day activities monotonous and boring because
they're trying to become extraordinary at every little thing. So
(39:43):
can we just can we stop with the Scotti Scheffler
and what he is or what he isn't and just
appreciate him for what he's doing right now?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
All right?
Speaker 7 (39:53):
Coop, Hey man, well, I've got the I've got the
ugly here. And this is a breaking news. Actually, the
doctor accused of flying Matthew Perry with ketamine is expected
to please guilty on Wednesday. He faces forty years for
ketamine distribution. And this is a guy that texted that
Matthew Perry was a moron, charging forty five dollars.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
For the drugs. Yeah, I hope this guy goes away
for a while. So Minus Football's back.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Brady's defending it's an ugly, it's an ugly story. Coop's
got a ketamine overdosing the story. Yes, it is ugly,
that is that is for sure.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
It's ugly, but.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
We usually stay in the world with sports. But okay, well,
whatever you want to do, man, it's your.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
It's your deal.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
I was told anything
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