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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Let's give this. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Wait
to go, Lorena.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
This is great. I'm so happy that Lamar.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Is not even here to enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
You're to enjoy it tomorrow, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
This awful song for an awful show.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's better than the last song. It's it's enough grade
from the last one.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It definitely is. I still don't understand why he decided
he wanted no part of picking music anymore. Like he's
all about music. He loves, he loves music, he loves
adding music to his Instagram posts, he loves he's always
listening to music when he comes into work, and this
is his hour, and he just didn't pick any music.
I don't get it. What happened. He was a big
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fan of it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I don't know, man, Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna try to figure this one out. I just know
it's a hell of a job done by Lorena and
everyone behind the scenes to make that happen.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It was. Yeah, it's really really unfortunate. It is two
pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn Jonas Knox with you know, LeVar Arrington, he
is he is not with us here.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So he's dodging us.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He's dodging us after that grand proclamation on the Golden
State Warriors being done in this series versus the Houston Rockets,
who now have a two to one lead and play tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
At ten pm Eastern Time at home.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So looking like it made up being up three to one. Yeah,
not even sure if Jimmy Butler will play in tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I mean, so Jimmy Butler, who does have a deep
what is it a deep glute contusion? Is that what
they're calling it?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Like, yeah, which was odd too because they're saying that,
you know, the pain management is not an issue with it,
because you can't just like shoot it up and go play,
and I'm like, are you.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Sure about that.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I've had a lot of guys go through some various
injuries and play through pain, and typically the nectar of
the Gods, as LaVar would say, can can help a
little bit in this case.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So maybe he doesn't want a needle near his ass.
Maybe that's it. I'm assuming that's where they would shoot
him up, because they shoot you up right in the
location of the injury, right, it's not like in an
overall numb.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's not true. No, it's not true.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
They can give it to you anywhere.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, usually just get a shot in your ass.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, if it's a local anesthesia, I believe it's how
I'll be utilized, Like novacane for example, that is more
shot in locally to the area. Like when I had
like kind of had some torrent collage in my ribs
and like I had had a little fracture there, like
they would just shoot it up so like and it
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was great. It's like the greatest thing in the world
for the next four hours. As soon as it wears off,
you're like brought back to reality.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
The stinks so well, hopefully LeVar will be back and sold.
Jimmy Butler and we can get to all that fun
stuff coming up tomorrow. It is two pros and a
cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Obviously, the
big story from the weekend the fall of Shadoor Sanders.
But he does end up with the Cleveland Browns about
I don't know, one hundred and twenty four picks later.
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Then a lot of people expected him to be drafted.
So he goes to the Browns in the fifth round
of pick one. And so one of the unfortunate storylines
that was attached to this whole Shadoor Sanders circus over
the weekend was the fact that he was prank called.
So Friday night, or excuse me, Thursday night, he received
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a prank call from somebody saying that a it's Mickey
Loomis with the Saints. We're going to be drafting you.
And well, let's take a listen, said one, what's.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Time for me?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
This is Mickey Loomis here, jam of the Thanks.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
How you doing good? How are you?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Man?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I'm good. I've been waiting on you. Yeah, we have.
It's been a long wait.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I'll take you with her.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Next year, right here?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Man, alright, but you're gonna have to wait a little
bit longer that season.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Okay, Now, as it turns out, that was actually Jax Oldbrick.
If the last name sounds familiar, it's Jeff Oldbrick, Falcons
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defensive coordinator, former interim coach of the New York Jets.
It's his son who apparently his dad's iPad was open,
and he went into his dad's iPad and he gathered
the phone number of Shador Sanders to make the crank
call that you just heard. And I think it's terrible
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because this only happened to Shad or Sanders. Okay, you
don't see this happening to anybody else, all right, yeah,
you know you don't see.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well, let's first address the obvious, because there's a couple
ways I look at this.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Personally as having gone through someone who was drafted. It's
a dream, you know. This is something that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Players put a lot of time, effort, sacrifice into for
that moment you get the call, and that call, for
many players who get drafted, that's one of the most
memorable moments of their life. So to have someone do
something so immature, so ridiculously stupid, to take away from
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that or like impart themselves on someone else's dream or
that moment.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It stinks. It stinks all the way around.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So I hate this for Shador and then every other
player that it's happened to, And we'll get to that
in a second. But here's the other side of the conversation,
as dumb as it was, and Jackson's come out and apologized.
I think he called Shador Sanders too, at least it
looked like on social media to own up to how
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stupid of a mistake it was. It's hard for me
to say much about it because, like I've done a
ton of prank calls, like I used to grow up
listening to the Jerky Boys, which, like anyone who grew
up during that area, like you go find that cassette tape,
you pop it in and if you had a two
hour drive, you'd be listening to Jerky Boys the entire
way there.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And it was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It was one of the stupidest, most immature things you
would do or listen to, but it was funny. It's
just unfortunate that it's like taking in this moment where
it's such a huge moment for someone like Shador again
who had expectations of going in the first round who
had expectations going the second, third round and really didn't
even get drafted of the fifth.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
So it was a grueling process for him.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
So it's unfortunate that it had to play out that way,
and especially considering it was the son of a guy
who's a defensive coordinator in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So I want you to be honest here, all right,
and I want you to tell the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing about the truth. All right. Yeah, when's the
last time you crane called somebody?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's been a while, But I thought back in this
situation because I try to be self aware enough to
be like, I really can't pass judgment on someone when like,
like I think I told you, like we had a
car got like egged one night, and I was like, yeah,
I really can't say anything here because I did some
juvenile stuff back in the day. It's like a bunch
of kids to tp people's houses if your house gets TV,
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and it's like, yeah, you kind of had that coming.
In this instance, I was thinking, like, man, we made
some we had some crank calls back in the day,
and I feel like, I feel like there's a number
of people who probably weren't too excited about the the
bit that we were playing.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
So it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I don't know that we've I don't know that I've
done with since like maybe high school or something.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But I crank called Andy Furman from the well that's desert,
That's deserving well, But I did it from because he
was off. It was like a holiday when I was
producing their show, him and Mike North and they were off,
and so I was still in the studio and so
I called him from the studio line because I knew
he would see an eight one eight number and freak
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out because he goes into panic mode real easy. And
he answered the phone and I told him I was
Mike Rogers from Clear Channel and I was from the
HR Department, and he said something that was uncomfortable on
the air. He had me on speakerphone. He was driving
to vacation with his family, and he started freaking out
and he would and I could tell he was nervous.
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And Frank Pollock, the old tech producer, was in the studio,
laughing his ass off, and finally I told him who
I was. He goes He almost gave me a heart attack.
His voice was quiver, and I realized, man, that's not
a nice thing to do at all, because he literally
almost went into convulsions because I crank called him, telling
him I was from the HR Department. But I would
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say that's not quite as mean as calling somebody who's
waiting out for the draft right and trying to get
trying to get picked, only to hear you know that
it's Jeff Ulbrick's son, which by they could you met
Jeff Ulbrick a little bit of a meathead. You imagine
getting a call from him saying you are going to
call him.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Buddy, call, I am driving to where my son's at
and beating him. I've got two sons, and I can
promise you like to do something like that to someone
else in that moment. Like again, it's it's all fun
and games in other instances, but not that, and especially
not concerning how confidential the information was that they found
and just how stupid it is for kids to put
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stuff on camera and all of that. But that's beside
the point. Can we get to can we stop with
the race bating? Like all the people out there who
want to make this like a racial issue, it is,
he wasn't the only one who was prank called. By
the way, this draft. Forget last year where Cooper dejan
was prank called. No one wants to talk about that.
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Tyler Warren was also prank called. There's a third player
who was actually prank called thirty minutes after he has
gotten drafted and someone told him he was getting traded.
So there's one of a few things happening here. It's
either these numbers are getting out from NFL personnel who
think it's funny, or their kids find it and they're
not locked up as tight as they should be. Or
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it's just a matter of like some of these players
numbers are getting out there. But so how it typically works,
and again you know this stuff is usually all confidential,
like they get a cell phone the day before if
you're not there at the draft. So I guess the
other thing I'd say if you want to eliminate this
is go to the draft. Like maybe maybe that's where
we need Robert Stacks music right now. Yeah, maybe maybe
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that's what we need right now. This is all like
done by the NFL as a conspiracy theory to try
to get more people to attend the draft. Good call,
I mean, because if they if you don't want to
be pret called, you better you better attend the draft.
You better get there, because that's it's not possible there right,
you get your name announced, they'd tell you, like, you
walk out to the stage, you're there, you see Roger,
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you see whoever's with the team, and then you're being selected.
So maybe this is all behind the scenes effort for
the NFL to actually draft have players at the draft.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm a sucker for conspiracy theories. I'm into that one.
Let's roll with it, all right, let's go like that.
That's a good one. I'm I'm and let's see how
many people we can convince of that. But that that's
why these crank calls are happening, because they want more
people to go to the draft so they don't have
to deal with them.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I'm in.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I mean, they're they're trying their best. It's a hard
sell for some of these kids. Although I do believe
there was a player who went to the draft this
year that was drafted in the fourth round.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It like a Baron Sorel.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah yeah, And he got drafted from out of Texas
and he got drafted, uh, and he stayed there the
entire time and then ended up getting drafted by Green Bay,
which was awesome that he got the walk, the celebration,
the treatment. You could tell by the outfit he wore,
though he packed for one night because that was that
was kind of a fun which suit.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I don't know that he thought he was getting drafted
day one. I thought I thought he thought he was
getting drafted day two, and then he slid into the
fourth So I can understand that, but it's a long way.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
It'd be a tough sell.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And we've also seen in the past, like teams like
New England who valued Cole Strange as a first round pick. Meanwhile,
you have less need and Sean McVay laughing because like, oh,
we looked at that guy in the fourth rounds like
he's having to be there. You know, they're laughing about it,
thinking he could be there on day three. So there's
a wide disparity between what certain teams think and what
they value versus others. And I also think that's going
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back to the initial part of the conversation with Shador.
It's one of the reasons why you know, you look
at what these teams value, what they look at Well,
Cleveland's only when it took him in the fifth round,
and they obviously value things differently and see things differently
than a lot of other teams, which at that point
probably either the need have a need at a quarterback
or didn't value some of the things that shared or
brings at that spot. But let's just stop, all right.
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This isn't just on Shador. It's not a racial thing.
It's happened to a bunch of players. It's unfortunate if
it's immature, but we're look, it's a bunch of dudes
being idiots, and like if you're if you think that's
gonna stop anytime soon, you're out of your mind.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Okay, can we get the Unsolved Mysteries music again?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Please?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
From Robert Stack? I would? I think I think it
was one racist and here's why, And it was there
was racial tones attached to it. Racist shod Or Sanders obvious.
I believe they also Crane called Tyler Warren because they
thought his name was Tyrone. Racist. Third, I think they
Crane called Cooper de Jean because they thought there's no
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way there's another white defensive back in the NFL. Racist.
So I one percent believe that it was racism attached
to it and.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I'm gonna go gott to be racist.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh no, so put that in your racist pipe and smoke.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, put that in pipe and smoke it.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's just it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Du Yeah, there's no like come on, man, like I
get it that that stuff is real. It does exist,
just not there like that's not like he's he was
the story of the draft, the fact that you know,
Jeff Ulbrick had is iPad out and the sun went
in there and grabbed it and started making folk. First
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of all, why would you release the video? Like why
why would that video come out?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Be cause kids are stupid, honestly, Like I still recall
camera phones coming out between my junior and senior year
in college. I mean that's how like I'm dating myself
at this point. And then there was the Facebook and
everyone in school was like why would I join that.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I don't want people to know what I'm doing. I
want my parents to know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I Mean, we had we had one friend and she
she used to always because they used to broadcast the
Masses and Notre Dame on Hallmark, and I was like.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Go out and have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
But as long as she was up front at the
upfront in the pew uh for Mass early morning on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
It was all good, Like the parents are like, oh,
there she is, she's a mass. She's fine.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I mean, look, that's you know, it covers everything, it
erases everything, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Just I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm just saying I'd never understand why some of these
I mean maybe for Clout, maybe they're trying to think
of it because I think it's it's cool or it's
funny to be that guy. Like there's really no road
that leads them to being someone that's going to be
looked upon favorably after that.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, it's it's also why would you want like if
you're an employer and you're looking into somebody's background, like
regardless if you find out and look, this isn't a
crime against humanity, Like it was a prank and it's
all that, But it does show that you've got clown tendencies.
Like it does show that. So you know, he apologized.
He wrote some long Instagram post. As you mentioned, he
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called him and they had a conversation about it and
hopefully he learns from it. But he put he put
his dad in a really difficult spot like that. That's
an uncomfortable spot to be in.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And honestly the Falcons for that matter too, because now
they have to reinvent their security system protocol for all
of that information, which is kind of sad you'd have
to do that in the first place, and it's I mean,
the only thing I could think is that you force
all of your employees to keep everything at the facility
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and not allow anything that's sensitive material to leave that building.
And that's a space that you're going to say, well,
maybe we don't feel comfortable having our family members come
up and see their dad or visit with their kids
and stuff in their office because there's too much sensitive information.
So really it's only going to be harder I was
going to say on Jack's on their family and potentially
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other coaches for that matter, because the selfish, immature acts
of one kid, because that's how you'd lock it down.
You just say, okay, you can't take anything home, and
that way this could not happen at least in that
capacity again, where you have to have anything that they
know pop in the office and see.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Or are able to look at.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
We just won't allow them to visit in certain areas
and we won't allow them to take home an iPad
work from home, you have to come in the office more.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
By the way, were there's certain businesses you would prank call,
Like would you call like grocery stores or restaurants or
pizza places? Like what was the protocol there when you
guys were slack?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, pizza pizza places were like pretty like low hanging
fruit for that. There's there's times you'd call like you
want to say, this is so bad and this isn't
even all my doing.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
This is by the way, Lee worked at a pizza
place before he came to Fox Sports Radio. That tells
you anything.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, did you ever get any frank calls? People calling
you up ordering a certain type of pizza?
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Yeah, there's some shenanigan. It's probably some stuff that went
over my head at the time.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I do remember those are actual orders.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Yeah, yeah, I do remember one prank call here at
the station though, I was working with Samboteche on the
loose Cannons. I was an intern, I was fresh, I
was fresh off the boat, and I.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Got loose cannons.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Loose cannons with Paddle'brian and Steve Hartman and uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I was the call screener as an intern, and I
got a call on the hotline and Sam had had
to leave the studio to do something else. So he
told me. He's like, hey, there's an expected call on
the hotline. It's going to be really important call. I
can't tell you who it is. And serendipitously, Rog Groves,
another famous producer here at the network, called and he
would do this often, would pretend to be somebody. So
he pretended he was DeShawn Jackson because he knew Sam
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was a big Eagles.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Fan because black, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
So I ran down the hall was like, hey, Sam,
Deshaun Jackson's on the phone, and Sam like took my
word for it, almost put a wide air and then
he looked, he double checked and looked at me like
I was an idiot, which I was, ra dude.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh that's great. No, there was.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
There's a few others that that man, and it was
it was also it was not all my own doing,
but someone was on original.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You're trying to like replay the Jerky Boys, you know,
some of their calls, if you could get that.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Going, man, My my buddy and I one night there
was nothing to do. We had no lives. So we
went to my house and we were just sitting at
my mom's house. We're in my room and we're drinking
and we just started prank calling QBC so they would
have these items that would go up for sale and
he would call on his phone. He would call because
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we didn't have cell phone, so he would call on
on house line, and then I would call on my
house line and we would say, yeah, i'll give you,
I'll give you this much to see the price go
up on the screen, and then he would call and
the price would go up, and then finally the QBC
operators are like, hey man, you guys really need to
get an e fing life. And you hang up and
the prices all shot back down like forty bucks, and
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we were dying. My mom comes to the room and
she's like, what are you guys doing And we tell her.
She's like why, like, I don't know, Yeah, we completely yeah,
I know, we have no life. What do you want
from us? But yeah, nobody was harmed, so as I
think everybody should be. It should be all good. Now
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it is two pros and a cup of Joe Here
on Fox Sports Radio Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here.
Coming up next though, we might have gotten a sneak
peek into what one team is expecting at quarterback next
year in the NFL, and we'll have that for you
right here on FSR.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox
Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up a little over fifteen minutes from now. We've got
a Monday tradition, the FSR IR. That's where we report
any issues, injuries, ailments from a long weekend. That'll be
yours here again a little over fifteen minutes from now.
By the way, lead, do we know why there's a
roll of toilet paper in the studio? Just sitting up
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here we mentioned tepeeing people's houses. What's what the toilet paper?
You know?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
That's funny.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
We were both sitting there, I think, staring at the
toilet paper, wondering what was going on. I have no idea.
I don't see any paper towel roles, so maybe it's
just a makeshift.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, well filling all right. That the things that happen
here on the weekend or are very strange, but nonetheless
we continue on here. So, based on the Steelers handling
of the quarterback position in the draft, safe to say
that they're pretty confident that Aaron Rodgers is going to
be their guy coming up next year. They get definitely,
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you'd have to think so, right, Yeah, because there's a
number of teams who are pegged for shudore standers to
go to and Pittsburgh was one of them. I mean,
Pittsburgh was one of those teams where they're like.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Hey, if anyone would take in should or if there
was a concern about, you know, the environment he's going
into and what that's going to look like, like Mike
Tomlin would be able to to draft him and put
him in a spot it's a need for them. But
instead they go with Will Howard in the sixth round
of the draft, who you know, obviously had a great
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finish to his college career, winning a national championship, playing
some really good football down the stretch for Ohio State,
UH in particular in the college Football playoffs. But they
can't be thinking that the combination of Mason Rudolph, Will
Howard and was Skylar Thompson is it.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
So my bet is they're they're waiting on Aaron Rodgers and.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
He's he's going through some stuff which I think has
been reported and documented, and as soon as he gets
to a point where feels better about it, I think
that's where he'd be joining the team.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I have a hard time believing.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
That they are not going to address it in one
of a few ways. They're they're gonna they're waiting on Rogers.
He decides to come, he's there. I think the next
step would be if Rogers decides to retire, he doesn't
want to do this anymore, then it's Kirk Couzins, And
if that's not a deal they want to do, maybe
they just played through the season and they prepare themselves
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for being there at the top of next year's draft,
where you're gonna have a number of quarterbacks that are
released anticipated to be ranked higher than this.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Year's draft class.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So one of the things that I saw that was
speculated about on Saturday as it relates to the quarterbacks
taken later on and shod Or Sanders being involved in this,
is that Cleveland traded up to draft shoud Or Sanders.
And one of the things that was thrown out there
was did they think that Philly was going to take him?
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Because Philly did end up taking a quarterback later on,
but it was Philly potentially looking at shad Or Sanders
saying all right, why not? Because around later they ended
up taking Kyle McCord. And maybe that also, I.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Think they were more looking at Calum McCord. Okay, it's
more of the thought there. And so because that.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Maybe would tie into why you think the Steelers would
have taken Will Howard potentially that those two could be connected.
They were taken just a couple of picks apart, and
those were the you know, two of the I believe
four quarterbacks that went in round six or five quarterbacks
that went in round six.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Kind of on that run.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
But col McCord's a PA guy, so I think, you know,
he's born in Philly, So I think maybe that's the
dots you're trying to connect there.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
But it made kind of sense that.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You know they would leapfrog them, but it's also a
place that I think he can excel in that system,
and he played some of his best football last year
at Syracuse, so it makes some sense.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And the people I talked to were hired on Cayle McCord.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Than they were Will Howard, which is interesting considering what
Will Howard accomplished this past year.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
But cal McCord left. You know, I could have easily.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Been his spot, his job at Ohio State, but he
left to go to Syracuse because you know, again reportedly,
they wouldn't guarantee him to be the guy after what
he accomplished the year before.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
So incomes Will Howard.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
He takes advantage of the opportunity and goes on to
win a national championship. But it's Kyle Viccord, who, at
least in the eyes of some of other people who
were drafting that I talked to, liked him better than
Will Howard. So in an interesting dynamic how that all
played itself out. But I think that's who Philly was
trying to get, a hometown kid who you know, they
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thought maybe Pitt was trying to target and made some
more sense for them.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Your guy Ryley Enard staying in Indiana, how about that?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's right, that's right, sixth round of the Colts.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Good good fit there too, I think for you know,
if you asked me to give a comp you know,
I think he reminds me a lot of Daniel Jones.
Like as far as similarities, now, Daniel Jones was a
much more polished passer when he had come out from Duke,
and he had displayed that at the college level. He
displayed that in a system that was very nfl ready
in regards to what David Cutcliffe had put on his
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plate while he was at Duke and what he asked
of him. So different scenarios in that regard, and I
think there's you know, obviously Daniel Jones was looked at
so highly the Giants took him in the first round,
and that's not the case with Riley. There's still a
lot of development development there. But toughness, leadership, the ability
to take off and run. That's going to be part
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of the offense. That was Shane Steichen and you look
at you know who they've got obviously Anthony Richardson, Daniel
Jones now as well. You know, all those guys can
do that. They can all play a role in the
run game to some degree. Maybe not as dynamic as
Anthony Richardson is, but all those guys can run and move,
so h he's a perfect fit for I think what
they're trying to get out of that position, in that
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quarterback groom, and look, it's kind of anyone's game. I
know they invested their first round pick and Anthony Richardson,
but he's had his issues obviously, and they brought in
Daniel Jones, and Daniel Jones wants to play, and I
think he've used this as a good opportunity. So there's
a chance, depending on how this all works out, he
could he could maybe see the field. He could see
an opportunity out there if things alter for Anthony Richardson,
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if he doesn't continue to grow, or if Daniel Jones
ends up having an issue not playing well enough to solidify.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Himself in that spot.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Let me ask you about Quinn yours because are you
surprised based on where things started with him in college,
you know, at Columbus and then he goes over to Texas.
Are you surprised he's the last quarterback taken in the draft,
Because I am, and.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I think there's a deeper conversation to be had there
about had he stayed and you know, he talked about
not wanting to transfer again. He'd already done that from
Ohio State, you know, back to Texas, and he understands
the undertaking that goes along with that as well as.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Just not wanting to do that.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Right, he wanted to be known as a Texas quarterback
and that will be his legacy when it's all said
and done. And it's to me, it's nice that he
was thoughtful about it because one of the things that
in this stinks because we're bringing off the back of
Riley Leonard and I know there's a lot of Notre
Dame fans that are excited about, you know, what they
were able to pomplished last year with him. But there's
an element of when people are like Alhwa's noted. Amn,
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I'm like, well, all right, how are we defining that?
Like did he get his degree from there? Did he
did he he choose to come? You know what I'm
saying Like, there's there's some elements to this whole transfer
portal thing that kind of rubs me the wrong way
as an alumnus of saying like let's just be careful
how we're throwing out or defining what guys are, all right,
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because what do you have come to your school to
play if there was no money involved?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Right? Probably not?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
So, so let's not like if that's how you would
have defined him, great, because this is your era of football.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
But they didn't choose to go there in the first place.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And a lot of the reason why they went there
was because of money, and if the money wasn't there,
they probably would have went somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So that that does kind of bother me a bit.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
And what I liked about Quinn was he could have
gotten paid more than he's going to make on his
rookie deal in its entirety as a seventh round draft pick,
if you would have went to another school that was
as looking to bring him in. So it's kind of
crazy to think that way and look at what money
he left on the table. But I think he looked
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at his you know, what he was able to accomplish
at Texas and you know, his legacy there and said like,
I don't want to mess with that. So does he
did he think he was going to drop the seventh round?
I'm sure he didn't but you know, outside of a
handful of games, in some big moments where he did
really play well and he played sough and he made
some throws, he just did not look right this season.
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The arm didn't seem to have the same pop and
zip to it. I know he was playing through an
emblique injury.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I get that. I know he had an issue with
injuries during his time there.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
The hardest thing for me with evaluating him was seeing
that his best tape was behind him. And I think
the other thing that was tough was when you saw
Arch Manning and I remember going to a practiceeing Malik Murphy,
who was you know, at Duke most recently, who had
transferred in texts at this point, Arch Manning, and then
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Quinn yours And when you stood there and looked at
all three of them, and Elie Murphy's a big young man,
ton of He's got a ton of zip on the ball.
But both him and Arch really separated themselves as far
as that their size, Like when you just looked at
them and you're like, oh man, those guys are like bigger,
they're more athletic, they feel like they're better prepared for
that next level from the brutality of a seventeen maybe
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eighteen game season one day. You didn't get the sense
of that when you stood next to Quinn or when
you watched Quinn, So that I think became more of
a reality too, of just what he projects to be
at the next level as compared to what he was
able to accomplish at the college level. And that's the
reality for a lot of these guys, right is That's
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what it is. It's a projection. And look, we don't
have time for it now. I'd love to do it
at some point though, talk about the mel kiper rant
and talk about what became viral from Melkipe for this
past weekend, because I do think he's wrong in a sense,
and I'll explain why. But in this case with Quinn yours,
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I don't know that he was misevaluated based on this
year's tape. They just if there wasn't a ton that
you got you really excited about taking him earlier in
their draft.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
By the way, you want a fun little impromptu can
you guess the odds or the favorites game? Here on
the show here on a Monday morning post draft, I
have the odds for who will be the number one
pick in next year's NFL draft. Do you want to
try and take a couple of stabs at this who
some of the top names are?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I mean, I know arch Manning has got to be.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
One, he's number one plus two?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Okay, what other quarterbacks could be in the Garrett Nesmeyer
he's third, okay at plus four fifty.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I know the North Sellers is up there. I don't
know that here someone has.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Of his number one though he's thirty to one. He's
a little bit further down off.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Do we need to go off quarterback?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
No, you can stay a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
For the time.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I'm trying to think, is Carson Beck can't.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Be up there? Is he? Uh? Well, he's tied with
the Larimore Sanders.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Trying to think who else would be available at that
point that would be able to.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's somebody that you, I'll put it this way, Jeremiah
Smith if he was draft eligible, but he's not draft eligibles.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Somebody that we've talked about on this show several times before.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That's not a good, good hint.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Well, I mean, for for obvious reasons. No, ok that
is correct? Ralur second to arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay, Well, Okay, I mean, okay, he needs to have
a good year.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He needs to have a big year. I would say
this past year is a good step. He's to keep
kind of building on that.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And then after those three so you get arch Manning.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
If it's another quarterback, it'd probably be sellers out thing
out of South Carolina Cade Club Nick at eighteen to one. Yeah,
which he's actually one that I think will be higher
on some others. And the non quarterback in the top five,
tied with Keldrick falk is TJ.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Parker at a close the d M there. So those
are your those are your odds to go number one
in the draft next year.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Okay, there's an.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Arch Manning sitting the top of the list at plus
two hundred.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I'm really curious to see, Like Caden Proctor, the tackle
at Alabama, there's a few Caleb downs, how high will
he go? He's just a special player man at the
safety out of Ohio State. Just he kind of has
it's like one of those players that I'm not going
to put him in Ed Reid territory, but he kind
of has that something about him, you know what I'm saying,
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Like there's just something about him that it makes you
think he comes in and he just completely ignites your defense. So,
Anthony Hill Junior out of Texas linebacker, it's a it's
a position that with his kind of his versatility playing
on off the ball, I could be curious to see
where he's looked at to go because he's a special
player too.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, so so it should be a fun And if
they announced the location of next year's draft, Lee, whor's
where are they having the draft next year? Is it
they've already done Nashville twenty twenty six NFL. Please don't
say it's not London for christ Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, And by the way, the rights for it are
still up in the air if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Ok So, I mean, listen, I like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Could they have could they have come off of a
better like weekend? With the ratings the way it was viewed, first, second,
third round all that? Oh yeah, I mean it might
fetch Man. Here's the hard thing from a ratings standpoint,
I don't know how they value it. Like the first night,
I haven't I seen the number four. Maybe you can
look it up, Lee, But just the second day being
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over seven million average viewership for that for such a
long window. I just man, I mean, this thing may
be one hundred million bucks per year just to be
able to put on the draft like that singular event,
and probably worth it as well.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
I think I'm seeing first night thirteen point six, okay,
and then.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
So that would be so just if we're looking at
from the standpoint college ball playoff games were about that,
like first round somewhere in that ballpark. As they got
to the semi finals, that the number grew. But those
would go for fifty million at least. They were reportedly
going for about fifty million, So they'll be somewhere north
of that. Because the total viewership I think across all
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those days, I don't know, it's got to be closer
to like fifty million people viewing.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
That's crazy, man, as far as total viewership's crazy for
basically for a non actual game, like not a game,
literally a television show involving the two most popular sports
the NFL in college football, that's awesome. It is two
pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up next,
(36:06):
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Speaker 6 (36:10):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 2 (36:21):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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Speaker 3 (37:00):
After your sports weekend happens.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
So it's time to get the fsr IR report.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
All right, anybody got anything rad you got any stories
from the road, any Donnybrooks skirmishes, outburst fights, anything.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
I saw Lorraina's car come driving into the parking lot today.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
It looks like she might have had a little IR.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Oh no, listen, listen.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
You know I worked the Renaissance Fair on the weekends,
and we had so much rain this weekend. It was
it was wild. We have like an outdoor type booth.
The river came from the road into our booth. I
had to sweep mud off of the rugs in our shop.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Is the Renaissance Fair every weekend, every.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Weekend the eighteenth for how long?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Okay, yeah, it's about six weeks.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay, God, I'll bet everybody there smells terrible.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
There was two women who actually smelled like farm animals.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
And oh yeah, you gotta make it every seem realistic.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Uh, isn't that what you're looking for?
Speaker 7 (38:02):
No, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Okay, totally outfits for I don't I don't really have
an IR story. We did have a bunch of sports
this weekend we tried, which very humbling. The first couple
of lacrosse games. Yeah, we had soot.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
It's about how you respond.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I've heard they responded well, and lacrosse. At least soccer
was was good successful weekend, but lacrosse first couple of games.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I mean, these older girls do like what they were doing.
They had played and.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
It was big, bing bing goal just passing around like
they I'm like. I talked to my daughter afterwards, I said, look,
you got sisters. You know you can go practice and
play anytime you want, But like you guys, got to
work on your passing more.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
It's too many ground balls.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
And when you're going up against bigger girls who are
a little bigger's, a little stronger, a little faster, like,
they're probably going to beat you out to that. So yeah,
that was a little bit of a humbling experience for them.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
My son was sial established for t ball game this
weekend and got rained out, kind of pissed off.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah that's tough.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, Southern California got rained down. I know you're probably
thinking like, oh, I mean he probably didn't play that day.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
No, no, no, no, no, of course please. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
We found a little little baseball field up the road
and just started raking, hitting bombs, rain drops. In between
rain robs. He was he was hitting lasers.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Are you are you gonna be like the next Todd Moranovich,
as far as like, can't you let your kid have fun?
Can you go take it to you something fun, not
just taking to the baseball and try to make it like.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Whatever you want to be.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
You've accused me of being Todd Marinovich before. I'd like
to point out again, I've never popped up in somebody's
fountain naked because I was a drug addict. Okay, so
that is not the difference between still time Jonas.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah, the night's still young Jonas.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, there's big, big, huge difference there. But you know
it's like, look, all right, I'll say this, and I'm
not trying out anybody, but I see a lot of
a lot of better parents who are just okay with
all right, throw them an iPad, and I just I can't,
I can't do it. Won't do it now, you're too
cheap to biom an iPad. Yeah, well that's there's that's
the other point. There's that as well too, So just
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go rake hit bombs