July 21, 2025 • 37 mins
It is revealed that part of the reason for former ED of the NFLPA, Lloyd Howell, stepping down was because of lavish “Player Engagement Events” at a famous South Florida gentlemen’s club. Plus, Lee’s dog sitting escapades on the FSR IR.
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh yeah, I gotta tell you, man, with LeVar not here,
this land's a little different.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, it feels like we just walked into a room
we probably shouldn't be in.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Was that the uh, the JaMarcus Russell draft party you
and your family walked into?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Was that the I mean that wash this and like
Fat Joe or something was all right back during his heyday.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Good seeing everybody, We're out of here.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Paris squad. I just love the fact that my now
eighty eight year old grandmother and walked through that thing.
I mean, I don't know if she'd never been a
club in her life, at least not like that, And
we walked right through the front door and right out
the back. All right, Grandma, have to get out of here.
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Speaker 3 (01:42):
The gift that keeps giving in the National Football League
now the NFLPA. We said, you know, maybe there'll be
some wholesale changes here, you know, because it does appear
like this collusion stuff that came out and Lloyd Howell
and the conflict of interest and everything that came along
with it. And then Lloyd Howel decided, you know what,
(02:03):
We're just gonna go ahead and step down. I'm gonna
step down here. You know, you're thinking, maybe he just
doesn't want to be a distraction anymore, maybe just you know,
once the focus to be back on the players, et cetera,
et cetera. Then it turns out that an outside investigator
hired by the union found that Lloyd Howell charged the
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union for strip club visits during his time with the NFLPA,
most notably these two. He was picked up at the
airport by a car service in Fort Lauderdale back in
twenty twenty three, and he went straight to a place
called Tutsie's Cabaret for eight hours.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh yeah, I'm not listening.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
People know Toutsies.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I have not been to Tutsi's Cabaret. But I'm assuming
if you go there for eight hours, you had a
good time.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
A nice meal, good time. I'm not sure that's a prerequisite,
by the way, for being the executive director of the NFLPA.
You know, just because you represent the players doesn't mean
you need to be a player.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I'm saying. I mean, look, one time, that was a
one time thing.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
He just he had just gotten off a plane.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Maybe there was a you know, a hot flight attendant,
and he was like, you know what, enough's enough. I
got to go take advantage of this mood that I'm in.
So I'm gonna go to Tutsi's for a couple hours listen,
or a few or eight whatever you want to call it.
That's fine. Just one time is enough. Then it turns
out that back in February, February twenty first, to be exact,
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not long after they had that conversation in court about collusion,
you know, when they should have been filing an appeal
at that time. They had a window of time to
appeal the decision in court, but they were busy because
on February twenty first, during the Player's summit in Atlanta,
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Lloyd Howl accompanied employees to the Magic City Strip Club
for an outing that incurred a little over twenty four
hundred dollars in charges, including cash withdrawals ranging from two
hundred dollars to five hundred and twenty five dollars from
a club atm Sources and documents show they used quote
two VIP rooms. According to the expense report, the purpose
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of the strip club outing was quote player engagement event
to support and grow our union. Something was growing. I
don't know if it was the union, but I could
assure you members of the union grew at Magic City
that night.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I can assure you of that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well. I think there were some Lloyd hal fans who
probably got a little excited that night. They probably didn't
want to blow all their excitement and way particular night
or spot, But you know, look, we make light of this. Oh,
this is one of the examples of why Again I
keep going back to it, and people will probably get
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upset when I say this. The NFLPA is the worst
run union. And I'm saying this as someone who I
don't like admitting that. I don't like saying that there's
some good benefits that the NFL players have post career
or even throughout their career compared to other professional sports leagues.
But these are the types of things that happen behind
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the scenes that is just abuse. I mean, think about
how many hard working guys who never tap into having
to use some of the some of the different resources
that the NFLPA provides, and so they're paying their fair share,
and meanwhile, this is where a portion of those funds
are going to. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's probably
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one of the reasons too, why JC Tretter decided to
resign as well, even though he's saying it's not due
to all the other stuff people are saying out there.
He's making his own decision on this. That's fine. You know,
he's been in the room, he knows exactly what happened.
But he was too attached to Lloyd Howe and getting
him to become the executive director and then coming back
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as the chief strategy officer. So maybe they were working
in cahoots. Mind you used to be a strip club
in Columbus, Ohio koots not using it that way right now,
but maybe Lloyd Howe. Yeah, apparently that a great lunch.
So I don't know. That's just what the meat wagon
tells me. Lloyd Howe and J. C. Tredder were working
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in cahoots on these different player and engagements at strip clubs.
I don't know. Maybe it was their idea, maybe it wasn't.
At this point, I think we can just widely speculate,
but I would think that someone who graduated from Penn
and as an NBA from Harvard and Lloyd Howe would
realize this is not going to look good if I'm
a part of this. But apparently maybe they're not teaching
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that Harvard. Maybe they are, I don't know, I don't know.
Maybe that's part of Harvard business score nowise I mean
to a player engagement, I'm engaging all the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
To see and also, by the way, Lloyd Hall had
some of this stuff in his past specifically strip clubs
in his past where a previous employer there were issues
about stuff that he was trying to write off or
expense rather to the company back in like twenty fifteen.
So it wasn't like this was a well, look, you
know he one night, bad judgment. Now there were multiple times,
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one one back in February, the other in twenty twenty
three that we know about or that's come out. And
then you had another incident and there was you know,
sexual discrimination accusations against Lloyd Howell and all this stuff.
So you just see all this stuff breakdown, and then
you've got you know, Jonathan Jones talks of CBS talks
with JC Tredder and the way that landed with me
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because there was a lot it felt like j. C.
Tredder wanted to get and I think he said his mind,
wanted to get his side of the story out first
because I think there's probably something coming out on him soon.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's what it felt like to me.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And he got really aggressive with it and just said, oh,
I just want to be with my family. I have
no interest in any more involvement in the NFLPA.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I just want to go spend time with my family.
That to me feels like something else is going to
come out, and it's probably going to come out on j. C.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Tredder.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
That's what it landed like to me.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Maybe not specifically about him, but something's going to come
out that's going to involve him. And here's the thing is,
I think most people who sign up to be a
part of the union have to realize that you're going
to be taking bullets for the union, the players, a
lot of things that are going on. He talked about
that too in his piece with Jonathan Jones, or at
least what he had reportedly said to Jonathan Jones. And
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that's what you sign up for. That's what that job is.
If you don't like it, don't sign up for it
in the first place. But it feels like he was
angling to eventually maybe take over as executive director and
that was how this whole thing was orchestrated and set up.
So I look at it and just say, it's once
again an example of an NFLPA that struggles to find
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the best to take over at that executive director job.
And you know, moving forward, who do they go get
to replace them? There's gonna be a vote soon, at
least reportedly that's what we're hearing. Will it be Don Davis? Well,
I mean, and look, I'm sure fans don't care on
the outside. I mean, this doesn't matter to the product
they're going to see on Sundays. It's not gonna change
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anything in that regard. But this is more of the
business behind the scenes where the owners are once again
getting a leg up because if they're looking across the
negotiating table at the NFLPA right now, it looks weak
and it looks like they're gonna be able to take
advantage of whatever comes next. So don't I don't know
where the NFLPA goes from here and who they're looking
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at to try to bring in as the full time
executive director or if whoever they vote is the interim
executive director gets opportunity to make it their full time gig.
But this should be a wake up call. I said
it last week. This is damning. It should be a
wake up call, and there should be a lot of
frustrated and angry union members if we're being awesome ourselves.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, because now you're looking at this going so these
are the guys that are supposed to be getting our
messaging across These are the guys that we trust with.
You know, we're putting our lives on the line. We'd like,
you know, something better for us and our future moving forward,
and you know, instead we got these guys going to
tootsies after a flight and like, it's just I mean,
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and here's what, here's what I would say. I do
think it's do people listening. It may not affect say,
your fantasy football team on a Sunday specifically, but I
think it affects how the league looks because the extra games,
everything that comes along with it that you know owners
have been pushing for that. You know, players have said, well,
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we need and we want that. And I wasn't aware
of the lack of the players and unions, their lack
of being able to get a deal done until working
with you and hearing former players who have been through
it talk about, Look, man, we need this, We need that.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
We need that.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
We don't need a larger window so we can smoke weed.
We don't need less padded practices, we need this. We
need long term healthcare. Like we these are the things
that we need and they never get done. And then
when you see stuff like this come out you go, well,
christ Man, like, how are they supposed to win any
negotiation with the owners or get anything done when this
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is what's happening behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I mean, maybe have the owners at the strip club
with them, great call. Maybe that would have helped negotiations.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I mean great call.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean, by the way, I'm just saying, I think
there's a few out there that have been well documented
that would not They wouldn't say no.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
But the thing is, robber Craft just gets straight to
the point like this. I didn't have to name names
for the record. I did not name names.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, I just did.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
That's on you.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I just did. Robert crafts like a lap dance. Seriously,
kiss my ass. I'm going right over there.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And I'll see you guys in fifteen minutes, and I'm
gonna be relaxed afterwards.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Laugh, dance, don't leave.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I don't think he'd be disappointed if he's going.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
To Tutsi's so, by the way, Uh, this is important,
important stuff here on this show, because you count on
this show to get this stuff done. Uh we have
got information lead the lap Oh yeah, our executive producer.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Can this be Lee's intro song from now on?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yay, we'd be.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So Lead the Lap are executive Lee.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's like the whitest thing you've ever done. He can well,
I wish you could see his face when he does it. Hey,
by the way, Lee, that should be a home game
for you. Come on, pick up your game a little bit.
So Lead the Lap has done some research. He's done
copious research. So you've got both Tutsi's Cabaret and Cahoots.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
What I can find for Cahoots gone but not forgotten
because they're pages.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Their pages have gone down.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But I found some information including some Columbus uh, the
City of Columbus having to pay out six exotic dancers
because they were being targeted by undercover wece. That's an
interesting story there.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Get Yeah, if you.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Were going there, you could get half off Martini's on Mondays.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
That's you know.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Can't find as many deals as I can find on Tutsies,
which is still going. In fact a great deal, and
I can understand why they were meeting there because you
can get a great party room package for two thousand
dollars which comes which comes with fourteen hundred dollars to
spend on food and drink, so.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Just changes everything you're actually spending those moneys in an
economic manner for their meeting. Agail's the cheapest place they
could find for a meeting in South Florida.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, you get a private room with like pay per
view all free pay per view events so you could
watch the games all.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So actually I've completely turned course on this and they
were actually doing the union of favor and they found
the cheapest place to have this meeting.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So hold on. So that's at Tootsies.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
This is that Tutsies where you get and their menus.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
By the way, how about the fact that have at
the fact that Lloyd Howell got off a flight and
was like, man, I don't want to go home, go home?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Does does do you feel like he needed to do
it for the street cred It's like, yeah, I'm one
of the guys. I'm going to come out here and
you know what I'm saying, Like I'm the executive director, but
I need to meet everyone at a strip club just
to be like I'm one of the boys.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
How about the balls on him to try and expense it,
like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Like though, you're like you Pen Harvard, NBA guy, and
you don't think that as you're walking in this situation.
This is gonna go wong at some point. I mean,
this is like this will be a case study at
Harvard Business School at some point, or someone will write
one and throw Harvard's name on it and sell it
or license at that other school.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I'll even give Lee credit, all right, Lee who loves
to bend the elbow. He loves to lick the lid
when we go on like this super Bowl week or
we go on work trips. I've had conversations about Lee
about like, listen, you know that you can expense certain
things whatnot we get a per diem, and Lee has
told me specifically, yeah, I'm not going to expense my
alcohol for first of all, the company would go broke. Secondly,
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it's just kind of a bad look, Lloyd. How's like
Magic City Player engagement?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Okay, as much itemized on the receipt, you know, sometimes
they don't necessarily itemize what's on there?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
All right? So what else about?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
By the way, on Cahoots, there is a yelp that
does have some reviews. The first most prominent reviews are
from people locally in the Columbus.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Area, won by the name of Jake.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
The other pat In, what is the what are you
else you've seen about Cahoots there in Columbus?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, they from like I said, it's uh, it's mostly
the news story about them suing the local police for
the undercover vice reviews.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You're talking about, though, Jonas. This one says pat says
has a great lunchtime buffet. I didn't let the melons.
What that means getting the way? Oh okay, I know
what that means. I know what that means.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And here's a.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Jake character says, I had wings, but the thighs are better.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I see an awkward layout.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Girls are excited to be there, but little talent, very
orchestrated routines. Vibe is bland, average age twenty one, music
isn't current.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I'm seeing another one here from the Jake character that
you mentioned. Had a great time with my friend Gus
after a golf tournament. The tacos are awesome. So I
apparently this is a thing. So Cahoots it used to
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be yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Gone but never forgotten.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
That's what their Instagram page is on.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Uh does it really?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Decided Instagram page for a defunct strip club. Maybe maybe
that's a new thing, Like maybe somebody needs to go
around scouring these cities and just find every strip club
that's shut down and create on Instagram account.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And by the way, this is two different worlds. So
that's Columbus, Ohio. Out here in southern California. The Cahoots
that I know is in Moore Park. It's a feeding
pet store, So two completely different cahoots, uh, in different
parts of the country.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
The Californias may have felt like they look the same
when they get there, probably, I mean pressed.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That's a very good point, uh Leah.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Anything else you'd like to add on either a Tutsis
cabaret or Cahoots.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well tutsies, I mean, next time I go or first
time I go, I'm gonna get me some world famous
fried lobster tail looks great, some seafood rice, maybe some
famous toutsy slow roasted ribs. They got a great combo
meal where it comes with grilled shrimp they're famous for.
And their dessert you get banana caramel fried cheesecake for
only seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Lee, do you ever contemplate? I mean, I know it's
in South Florida, so you'd assume the fish is fresh,
But do you ever contemplate when you're eating fish, you
know whereere did you get it from?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I do, But worst decision I ever made in my
life was getting oysters in Venice, Italy.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I didn't really think.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
About it before I did it, and then I did.
As soon as I tasted it, I was like, why
would I have ever gotten oysters in Venezia?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The way I guess? Real quick, I guess the worst
thing that could happen to you at Tootsies is probably
not food poisoning. It's probably getting something else.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right, I would say, Lee, do you remember You probably
don't remember this the night that you bailed and face
planted in New Orleans for the super I remember most
of the Well, so we went to a place in
New Orleans and they had oysters.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That they were like fresh.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, I remember, okay, because.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You dozed off with the bar top and almost knocked
the plate of oysters over the bar.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's how the guy sitting on the other side of
the league goes, hey, buddy, you are right.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That's just a Wednesday, New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The bar so good.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Those were delicious.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Well, hey, look, uh, the NFL p A has got
problems they're hoping to rid themselves of those problems and now, uh,
now maybe.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We'll get this whole thing figured out here.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But that's a good thing he resigned though. You know, imagine,
imagine this coming out and then he's still the executive
director and answer to this, that's all right, now it's
time to throw in the towel.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
It's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
None of this would have come out if Pablo Torri
didn't get ahold of the transcripts. Think about like, if
he hadn't done enough digging to try and get this information,
none of that stuff would have come out, and this
would have all still been going on, and it would
have been like, man, really hope they can get a
better deal for us. Meanwhile, there whatever strip club they're
at this week or next year.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You know we need to do We need to have
Lee try to call maybe either in the next segment
during the break and just give us an idea of
how much it costs to get a conference room at
one of these hotels in South Florida versus the deal
that he just signed up for the VIP room at tutsis. Honestly, yeah,
maybe they called around and they're like, dude, you're not
gonna believe this, but we actually can't find a better
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deal than Tutsi's VIP room special. So that's where your
meeting when you go out in Courlando.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, Lee, Lee, you think you can make that happen
on We'll get a price point on that. Moving forward,
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If you are listening to us. A few minutes ago,
really important stuff out of the NFL. The NFLPA is
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in shambles. Lloyd Howe, the former executive director J C.
Tretder or gone. The Lloyd Howe conversation took a turn
in the past few days when the evidence came out
that Lloyd was trying to expense strip club visits while
working with the NFLPA, most notably at Tootsi's and Magic City.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Magic City has exposed a lot of athletes, a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
At sports are getting called out.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Meanwhile, Rob Parker like he'll just go there and broadcast it,
like he's got no issue talking about magic Has he.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Done a show from Magic City yet?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
No, But there is the conversations that Rob has had
and then there's the stuff that I've seen from Magic
City when Rob's gone, And those are two different things
that he talks about publicly and what he talks about privately.
So I don't want to air his dirty laundry. Here,
but maybe Rob Arker could be the next executive director
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of the NFLPA. So upon that whole discussion that we
were having, Brady brought up the phenomenal point, what would
be the difference in cost between getting a meeting at
a conference room and having a meeting at Magic City
or at Tootsies or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And so yeah, I mean again, I think there's two
ways of looking at this. As we're winning on lead here.
There's one direction, which is you go to the traditional route.
You find a nice hotel conference room where all the
boys can come stay, you guys can converse, do some business.
That can get it pricey. Can get expensive, and we've
learned that here at Fox Sports Radios. I'm gallivanting across
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the country trying to find different places to do the
show from that can get pricey. So look, if this
is thinking outside the box, Yes, looks about on the surface,
but maybe just maybe they were trying to save the
NFLPA a few bucks. Lee, what have we found out?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Well, I have.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Looked around different areas between Fort lad Dale in Miami,
and you could find some really nice spots, so nice
that I have to find a sales representative I put
in a few calls. They're going to get back to me. Unfortunately,
it's still too early for them to be in the offices.
But I have found a few places where these are
the crumier spots that are like one hundred and fifty
bucks an hour. So if you put that to you know,
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eight hours, that's going to be twelve hundred bucks. But
that doesn't come with fourteen hundred dollars that goes towards
food and beverage plus holds.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
What was the total cost? What was the total cost
of the vip room?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
The vip room was two thousand dollars. It's a private
room with TVs, your own VIP hostess, and fourteen hundred
dollars to spend on food and beverage.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Wait, so is that like fourteen hundred in addition to
the spending the two thousand, Like that's value or you
have to hit that minimum.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I think that's included, is what it says. Let me
double it says for I know right.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Well, no, I'm saying, like I think they're going to
be charging you fourteen hundred dollars for food and whatnot?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Fourteen hundred We always spend tab for drinks and food
of your choice.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Right, I wonder if part of that is, you know,
what's probably the minimum therely, Well, why don't we just
charge a flat fee and then as soon as these
guys get in here in the front of their pants
get a little tight, we'll go ahead and now we'll
throw on an extra charge and next thing you know,
you're paying a little bit more than you thought you were.
I mean, the hotel conference room just seems like it
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would be much easier, but not quite as entertaining.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
They're very nice, but I don't know if they come
with their own private hostess, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Think that's really holding them Backly, you don't think they
could find one of those walking through the room to
their VIP suite or whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I'm just saying, I don't see it necessarily on the website.
But you know what I did, I.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Did like that they pointed out here again, this was
ESPN who did this deep dive on finding out all
this stuff on Lloyd. How I do like how they
pointed out here in the revelation when it came to
how much he was spending or what he was trying
to do, there was cash withdrawals two hundred to five
hundred twenty five dollars from a club atm at Magic City.
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Sources and documents say so basically, what that means is
that a guy went up there said, you know what,
I'm just going to take two hundred bucks out and
then went back because the two hundred didn't get him
far enough and went back and took five twenty five
out just because I'm not taking any chances here, Like,
I got to make sure that next time I go
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in there, two hundred dollars, that's not cutting it. Five
twenty five and that way you're gonna get at least
five six songs in a row. And maybe just maybe,
depending on what your wardrobe is for the night. Maybe
he's wearing bike shorts. Everybody goes, So I'm happy, if
you know what I mean. So it is interesting that
this was the NFLPA and then everyone was wondering why
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it is that they couldn't seem to get deals done
when it came to negotiate with the owners. They're busy.
They're busy, clearly busy. So Lee, that's that's where we look.
So you would say that the best bang for your buck,
no pun intended, would be you think Tutsi's or you
think a conference room.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Tutsi's cabaret, or Ocean Point Slash or the Palms in
uh in Miami.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yes, the Palm's a hotel spot yea. Or Ocean Point
Wedding and Events.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Those are good spots, very pretty beach front.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And we were unable to get anybody on the phone
at this time.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
No, I've put it.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I've put in a requests, so maybe by the end
of the show I'll have an update for you.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
What about Tutsies? Anybody at Tutsi's right now?
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I bet you you know right now?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Come on, all right? It says it doesn't own it's
also what.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Is it eleven down there in Miami? I think it's
a twenty four to seven club, strip club, so you
could probably call that place.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Ah damn, you know what.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Tutsi's closes at six am?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, right as we go on the air, because well
they want to listen to the show, clearly, but there's
got to be somebody still there cleaning up. And there's
a lot to clean up it too. The prices ye
like yeah, let's see, Uh do you want to do?
You want to try and call and see what the
answering machine is like at Tutsies, just to see if
we can get that on the air.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
We'll just see exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Just some people know, we're not making this stuff up here.
We're like, we're doing our due diligence, all right. We're
trying to get to the bottom of what's so great
about Tutsies that people from the nfl p A have
to go right off a flight instead of going home.
That's that's how we're trying to get to the bottom
up here. All right, So Lee is going to effort
getting uh for.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Our address and directions. Press one for our hours of operation.
Press two for party reservations. Press four resources accounts payable.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
All right, so we're going to get.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
To you.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Entertainers. Press seven.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Leading even wait, that could be you, buddy, entertain.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
This is not a personal call. This is for show research.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
What are your fat bones? Hit the wrong button.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
For drink special?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Deep?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, are you having to call back because you hit
entertain There's no male strippers at this place?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Ah no, yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, there's that mailbox is full for reservation buy Oh hey,
that's about right.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm sure after this old debacle, everyone's trying to schedule Manning,
you tell me I get a VIP suite there for
two thousand bucks for eight hours.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, you think Tony Clark from the MLBPA is like, well, geez,
I don know that was on the table.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't know that was a possibility.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Nobody will find out about it unless Pablo Tory gets
ahold of it. That's great, all right, Well, listen, I
think we've uh, I think we've really uncovered a lot here.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I'm glad it took a Harvard NBA guy.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Mostly is bananas.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Next time someone from Howard sticks up their noses, you
just remember, all right, this is how it all went out.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
God, Well, look there we go. That's how to sum
up the state of affairs with the Players Association of
the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
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Speaker 2 (31:44):
All right, Lee, what do we got?
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Well, as you know, my dog sitting week is coming
to an end. In fact, oh, the dog made it. Well,
there's still time.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
There's about three hours left until his owner arrives at Lax.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
We set the over under it. What Saturday the dog
wouldn't make it the Saturday.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah, he made it strong and well it was a
close one because Saturday night I decided to uh, basically
have a little not shin dig but just you know,
hang out at the neighbors spot because he's got a
really good wet bar. And I think I helped myself
to a little too much that I probably need to
replace some I think I killed.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I think I killed a bottle and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Or two of what of what?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
The cheap stuff I didn't like he's got. You know,
I help myself to sell gin basically a huge bottle
of bombay.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
And doesn't gin kill the most brain cells of all
the alcohol?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I don't know how do we rock that?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
How would I know it that's true? I mean, if
I'm doing that much, you know the way.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
One minor observation of lead a lap coming back from Briggs.
Whenever there's a song on, Lee tends to sing the
girl part of the song as it's playing. You know, yeah,
I noticed that I felt that was interesting. I don't
see many guys sing the girl part of songs.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Well, you know, some people aren't comfortable in their own skin,
you know.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So you're saying he blew through a whole bottle of
bombas after No.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I didn't kill the bombay, but I did put a
sizeable dent in it.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
He doesn't drink gin, so I felt fine about that one.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Uh yeah, no big deal.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Then, yeah, he had lots of He had lots of
scotch and whiskeys, so I killed the cheap JMO.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Still, one of my favorite Lee moments that you had
to be there to really witness, was when we were
in Ireland and you know, we're waiting on the Uber.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Or whatever they call it out there.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
The free Now like whatever those ubers are in Ireland,
and we're waiting downstairs outside to go do the show
because the show doesn't start till eleven am local time,
and we're just all kind of sitting there, a little
jet lagged, maybe a little bit hungover. Lee just says,
in a quiet moment, into that whiskey a little bit
(34:01):
in the room when I got back there last night, you.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Mean the whiskey in that bottle.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
The whiskey they gave to the entire show, and Lee
had it in his room.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I just couldn't resist.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
He had to scratch the itch after he had already
gone out drinking for the night.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh boy, I had to kill it.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I mean, they're not gonna let me onto the plane
with that bottle, so you had to enjoy it while
you're there.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I guess win in Dublin, I guess.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
But the dog is okay. Dog is okay.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Like I said, he's got a few more hours left.
And then the next morning, as I was hungover, I
walked him all the way to my folks place, and
then he decided to urinate all over my parents' house.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
How old is that dog?
Speaker 4 (34:38):
By the way, included on one of my shirts.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He's uh, like, you're certainly he does that. Already thought
it was a place to go to the bathroom. Maybe
it smells like a toilet.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Soone well, and I couldn't figure out if maybe my
you know my dogs that I they're my parents' dogs.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I call them my dogs.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I think they started to urinate all over the place
because this strange dog had come in.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
You started dogs everywhere the war zone of urination.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, it might what is it contagious?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
All these dogs are just like laying down their.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Territory, wait better outside?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
How do your parents take that?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
They were all too happy about it.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I mean, obviously, you guys know I put this dog
usually comes with a diaper. But I didn't realize I
was gonna be walking all the way to the folks place.
They just happened to be closer to them than I
wasn't mine at that point.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
So and how and the dog is howled again.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
He's probably twelve years old something like that.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
If you can't potty train a dog, just I mean,
what's the point of his It's.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Well, he's still intact. You know, he hasn't been robbed
of his family jewels.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
He's just dog.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
So those kind of dogs, I think they are more
inclined to mark their two.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Are you talking about? I had a box and we
never got him taken off. He's fine, he would we're
a diaper everywhere.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Well, yeah, some breeds are better than he's not my dog.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Not my dog. I don't know many people that don't
neuter their dog or spade their dog. And they're saying, oh,
they need to wear a diaper.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Yeah, But like I agree.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I've never heard of dog diapers in my life.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I don't even put it like I I gave up
on using them. I was tired of doing it, but
turned out it did backfire and my parents place.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
So you literally had one job changed the dog's diapers
and he didn't even do that.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
I did from time to time.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
You're ready to have a kid, Lee, let me tell you.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
I ran out of diapers, like I had to order
more diapers.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But you know how old that dog is deceased? That's
how old that dog is. Okay, that thing is dead.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'll put it.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
By the time the NFL season starts, what is the
September eighth or whatever it is, September seventh, that dog
will no longer be with us. I'll call my shot.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I made it a week.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
I got him, I got him home, all right, that's
all that matters.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You imagine he gets home today and that dogs.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Can you imagine if we had to have leeve watch
one of our kids.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Oh god, great time, uncle, he is the best.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Trust you.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Oh that's not good, Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Loreno will help. She'll do all the work.
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh yeah, I gotta tell you, man, with LeVar not here,
this land's a little different.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, it feels like we just walked into a room
we probably shouldn't be in.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Was that the uh, the JaMarcus Russell draft party you
and your family walked into?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Was that the I mean that wash this and like
Fat Joe or something was all right back during his heyday.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Good seeing everybody, We're out of here.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Paris squad. I just love the fact that my now
eighty eight year old grandmother and walked through that thing.
I mean, I don't know if she'd never been a
club in her life, at least not like that, And
we walked right through the front door and right out
the back. All right, Grandma, have to get out of here.
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Speaker 2 (01:38):
And we've got the the very latest on.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The gift that keeps giving in the National Football League
now the NFLPA. We said, you know, maybe there'll be
some wholesale changes here, you know, because it does appear
like this collusion stuff that came out and Lloyd Howell
and the conflict of interest and everything that came along
with it. And then Lloyd Howel decided, you know what,
(02:03):
We're just gonna go ahead and step down. I'm gonna
step down here. You know, you're thinking, maybe he just
doesn't want to be a distraction anymore, maybe just you know,
once the focus to be back on the players, et cetera,
et cetera. Then it turns out that an outside investigator
hired by the union found that Lloyd Howell charged the
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union for strip club visits during his time with the NFLPA,
most notably these two. He was picked up at the
airport by a car service in Fort Lauderdale back in
twenty twenty three, and he went straight to a place
called Tutsie's Cabaret for eight hours.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh yeah, I'm not listening.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
People know Toutsies.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I have not been to Tutsi's Cabaret. But I'm assuming
if you go there for eight hours, you had a
good time.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
A nice meal, good time. I'm not sure that's a prerequisite,
by the way, for being the executive director of the NFLPA.
You know, just because you represent the players doesn't mean
you need to be a player.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I'm saying. I mean, look, one time, that was a
one time thing.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
He just he had just gotten off a plane.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Maybe there was a you know, a hot flight attendant,
and he was like, you know what, enough's enough. I
got to go take advantage of this mood that I'm in.
So I'm gonna go to Tutsi's for a couple hours listen,
or a few or eight whatever you want to call it.
That's fine. Just one time is enough. Then it turns
out that back in February, February twenty first, to be exact,
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not long after they had that conversation in court about collusion,
you know, when they should have been filing an appeal
at that time. They had a window of time to
appeal the decision in court, but they were busy because
on February twenty first, during the Player's summit in Atlanta,
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Lloyd Howl accompanied employees to the Magic City Strip Club
for an outing that incurred a little over twenty four
hundred dollars in charges, including cash withdrawals ranging from two
hundred dollars to five hundred and twenty five dollars from
a club atm Sources and documents show they used quote
two VIP rooms. According to the expense report, the purpose
(04:24):
of the strip club outing was quote player engagement event
to support and grow our union. Something was growing. I
don't know if it was the union, but I could
assure you members of the union grew at Magic City
that night.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I can assure you of that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well. I think there were some Lloyd hal fans who
probably got a little excited that night. They probably didn't
want to blow all their excitement and way particular night
or spot, But you know, look, we make light of this. Oh,
this is one of the examples of why Again I
keep going back to it, and people will probably get
(05:06):
upset when I say this. The NFLPA is the worst
run union. And I'm saying this as someone who I
don't like admitting that. I don't like saying that there's
some good benefits that the NFL players have post career
or even throughout their career compared to other professional sports leagues.
But these are the types of things that happen behind
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the scenes that is just abuse. I mean, think about
how many hard working guys who never tap into having
to use some of the some of the different resources
that the NFLPA provides, and so they're paying their fair share,
and meanwhile, this is where a portion of those funds
are going to. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's probably
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one of the reasons too, why JC Tretter decided to
resign as well, even though he's saying it's not due
to all the other stuff people are saying out there.
He's making his own decision on this. That's fine. You know,
he's been in the room, he knows exactly what happened.
But he was too attached to Lloyd Howe and getting
him to become the executive director and then coming back
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as the chief strategy officer. So maybe they were working
in cahoots. Mind you used to be a strip club
in Columbus, Ohio koots not using it that way right now,
but maybe Lloyd Howe. Yeah, apparently that a great lunch.
So I don't know. That's just what the meat wagon
tells me. Lloyd Howe and J. C. Tredder were working
(06:35):
in cahoots on these different player and engagements at strip clubs.
I don't know. Maybe it was their idea, maybe it wasn't.
At this point, I think we can just widely speculate,
but I would think that someone who graduated from Penn
and as an NBA from Harvard and Lloyd Howe would
realize this is not going to look good if I'm
a part of this. But apparently maybe they're not teaching
(06:58):
that Harvard. Maybe they are, I don't know, I don't know.
Maybe that's part of Harvard business score nowise I mean
to a player engagement, I'm engaging all the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
To see and also, by the way, Lloyd Hall had
some of this stuff in his past specifically strip clubs
in his past where a previous employer there were issues
about stuff that he was trying to write off or
expense rather to the company back in like twenty fifteen.
So it wasn't like this was a well, look, you
know he one night, bad judgment. Now there were multiple times,
(07:31):
one one back in February, the other in twenty twenty
three that we know about or that's come out. And
then you had another incident and there was you know,
sexual discrimination accusations against Lloyd Howell and all this stuff.
So you just see all this stuff breakdown, and then
you've got you know, Jonathan Jones talks of CBS talks
with JC Tredder and the way that landed with me
(07:53):
because there was a lot it felt like j. C.
Tredder wanted to get and I think he said his mind,
wanted to get his side of the story out first
because I think there's probably something coming out on him soon.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's what it felt like to me.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And he got really aggressive with it and just said, oh,
I just want to be with my family. I have
no interest in any more involvement in the NFLPA.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I just want to go spend time with my family.
That to me feels like something else is going to
come out, and it's probably going to come out on j. C.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Tredder.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
That's what it landed like to me.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Maybe not specifically about him, but something's going to come
out that's going to involve him. And here's the thing is,
I think most people who sign up to be a
part of the union have to realize that you're going
to be taking bullets for the union, the players, a
lot of things that are going on. He talked about
that too in his piece with Jonathan Jones, or at
least what he had reportedly said to Jonathan Jones. And
(08:47):
that's what you sign up for. That's what that job is.
If you don't like it, don't sign up for it
in the first place. But it feels like he was
angling to eventually maybe take over as executive director and
that was how this whole thing was orchestrated and set up.
So I look at it and just say, it's once
again an example of an NFLPA that struggles to find
(09:09):
the best to take over at that executive director job.
And you know, moving forward, who do they go get
to replace them? There's gonna be a vote soon, at
least reportedly that's what we're hearing. Will it be Don Davis? Well,
I mean, and look, I'm sure fans don't care on
the outside. I mean, this doesn't matter to the product
they're going to see on Sundays. It's not gonna change
(09:31):
anything in that regard. But this is more of the
business behind the scenes where the owners are once again
getting a leg up because if they're looking across the
negotiating table at the NFLPA right now, it looks weak
and it looks like they're gonna be able to take
advantage of whatever comes next. So don't I don't know
where the NFLPA goes from here and who they're looking
(09:53):
at to try to bring in as the full time
executive director or if whoever they vote is the interim
executive director gets opportunity to make it their full time gig.
But this should be a wake up call. I said
it last week. This is damning. It should be a
wake up call, and there should be a lot of
frustrated and angry union members if we're being awesome ourselves.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, because now you're looking at this going so these
are the guys that are supposed to be getting our
messaging across These are the guys that we trust with.
You know, we're putting our lives on the line. We'd like,
you know, something better for us and our future moving forward,
and you know, instead we got these guys going to
tootsies after a flight and like, it's just I mean,
(10:38):
and here's what, here's what I would say. I do
think it's do people listening. It may not affect say,
your fantasy football team on a Sunday specifically, but I
think it affects how the league looks because the extra games,
everything that comes along with it that you know owners
have been pushing for that. You know, players have said, well,
(10:59):
we need and we want that. And I wasn't aware
of the lack of the players and unions, their lack
of being able to get a deal done until working
with you and hearing former players who have been through
it talk about, Look, man, we need this, We need that.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
We need that.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
We don't need a larger window so we can smoke weed.
We don't need less padded practices, we need this. We
need long term healthcare. Like we these are the things
that we need and they never get done. And then
when you see stuff like this come out you go, well,
christ Man, like, how are they supposed to win any
negotiation with the owners or get anything done when this
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is what's happening behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I mean, maybe have the owners at the strip club
with them, great call. Maybe that would have helped negotiations.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I mean great call.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean, by the way, I'm just saying, I think
there's a few out there that have been well documented
that would not They wouldn't say no.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
But the thing is, robber Craft just gets straight to
the point like this. I didn't have to name names
for the record. I did not name names.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, I just did.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
That's on you.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I just did. Robert crafts like a lap dance. Seriously,
kiss my ass. I'm going right over there.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And I'll see you guys in fifteen minutes, and I'm
gonna be relaxed afterwards.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Laugh, dance, don't leave.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I don't think he'd be disappointed if he's going.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
To Tutsi's so, by the way, Uh, this is important,
important stuff here on this show, because you count on
this show to get this stuff done. Uh we have
got information lead the lap Oh yeah, our executive producer.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Can this be Lee's intro song from now on?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yay, we'd be.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So Lead the Lap are executive Lee.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's like the whitest thing you've ever done. He can well,
I wish you could see his face when he does it. Hey,
by the way, Lee, that should be a home game
for you. Come on, pick up your game a little bit.
So Lead the Lap has done some research. He's done
copious research. So you've got both Tutsi's Cabaret and Cahoots.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
What I can find for Cahoots gone but not forgotten
because they're pages.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Their pages have gone down.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But I found some information including some Columbus uh, the
City of Columbus having to pay out six exotic dancers
because they were being targeted by undercover wece. That's an
interesting story there.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Get Yeah, if you.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Were going there, you could get half off Martini's on Mondays.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
That's you know.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Can't find as many deals as I can find on Tutsies,
which is still going. In fact a great deal, and
I can understand why they were meeting there because you
can get a great party room package for two thousand
dollars which comes which comes with fourteen hundred dollars to
spend on food and drink, so.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Just changes everything you're actually spending those moneys in an
economic manner for their meeting. Agail's the cheapest place they
could find for a meeting in South Florida.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, you get a private room with like pay per
view all free pay per view events so you could
watch the games all.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So actually I've completely turned course on this and they
were actually doing the union of favor and they found
the cheapest place to have this meeting.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So hold on. So that's at Tootsies.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
This is that Tutsies where you get and their menus.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
By the way, how about the fact that have at
the fact that Lloyd Howell got off a flight and
was like, man, I don't want to go home, go home?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Does does do you feel like he needed to do
it for the street cred It's like, yeah, I'm one
of the guys. I'm going to come out here and
you know what I'm saying, Like I'm the executive director, but
I need to meet everyone at a strip club just
to be like I'm one of the boys.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
How about the balls on him to try and expense it,
like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Like though, you're like you Pen Harvard, NBA guy, and
you don't think that as you're walking in this situation.
This is gonna go wong at some point. I mean,
this is like this will be a case study at
Harvard Business School at some point, or someone will write
one and throw Harvard's name on it and sell it
or license at that other school.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I'll even give Lee credit, all right, Lee who loves
to bend the elbow. He loves to lick the lid
when we go on like this super Bowl week or
we go on work trips. I've had conversations about Lee
about like, listen, you know that you can expense certain
things whatnot we get a per diem, and Lee has
told me specifically, yeah, I'm not going to expense my
alcohol for first of all, the company would go broke. Secondly,
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it's just kind of a bad look, Lloyd. How's like
Magic City Player engagement?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Okay, as much itemized on the receipt, you know, sometimes
they don't necessarily itemize what's on there?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
All right? So what else about?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
By the way, on Cahoots, there is a yelp that
does have some reviews. The first most prominent reviews are
from people locally in the Columbus.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Area, won by the name of Jake.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
The other pat In, what is the what are you
else you've seen about Cahoots there in Columbus?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, they from like I said, it's uh, it's mostly
the news story about them suing the local police for
the undercover vice reviews.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You're talking about, though, Jonas. This one says pat says
has a great lunchtime buffet. I didn't let the melons.
What that means getting the way? Oh okay, I know
what that means. I know what that means.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And here's a.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Jake character says, I had wings, but the thighs are better.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I see an awkward layout.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Girls are excited to be there, but little talent, very
orchestrated routines. Vibe is bland, average age twenty one, music
isn't current.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I'm seeing another one here from the Jake character that
you mentioned. Had a great time with my friend Gus
after a golf tournament. The tacos are awesome. So I
apparently this is a thing. So Cahoots it used to
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be yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Gone but never forgotten.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
That's what their Instagram page is on.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Uh does it really?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Decided Instagram page for a defunct strip club. Maybe maybe
that's a new thing, Like maybe somebody needs to go
around scouring these cities and just find every strip club
that's shut down and create on Instagram account.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And by the way, this is two different worlds. So
that's Columbus, Ohio. Out here in southern California. The Cahoots
that I know is in Moore Park. It's a feeding
pet store, So two completely different cahoots, uh, in different
parts of the country.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
The Californias may have felt like they look the same
when they get there, probably, I mean pressed.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That's a very good point, uh Leah.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Anything else you'd like to add on either a Tutsis
cabaret or Cahoots.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well tutsies, I mean, next time I go or first
time I go, I'm gonna get me some world famous
fried lobster tail looks great, some seafood rice, maybe some
famous toutsy slow roasted ribs. They got a great combo
meal where it comes with grilled shrimp they're famous for.
And their dessert you get banana caramel fried cheesecake for
only seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Lee, do you ever contemplate? I mean, I know it's
in South Florida, so you'd assume the fish is fresh,
But do you ever contemplate when you're eating fish, you
know whereere did you get it from?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I do, But worst decision I ever made in my
life was getting oysters in Venice, Italy.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I didn't really think.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
About it before I did it, and then I did.
As soon as I tasted it, I was like, why
would I have ever gotten oysters in Venezia?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The way I guess? Real quick, I guess the worst
thing that could happen to you at Tootsies is probably
not food poisoning. It's probably getting something else.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right, I would say, Lee, do you remember You probably
don't remember this the night that you bailed and face
planted in New Orleans for the super I remember most
of the Well, so we went to a place in
New Orleans and they had oysters.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That they were like fresh.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, I remember, okay, because.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You dozed off with the bar top and almost knocked
the plate of oysters over the bar.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's how the guy sitting on the other side of
the league goes, hey, buddy, you are right.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That's just a Wednesday, New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The bar so good.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Those were delicious.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Well, hey, look, uh, the NFL p A has got
problems they're hoping to rid themselves of those problems and now, uh,
now maybe.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We'll get this whole thing figured out here.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But that's a good thing he resigned though. You know, imagine,
imagine this coming out and then he's still the executive
director and answer to this, that's all right, now it's
time to throw in the towel.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
It's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
None of this would have come out if Pablo Torri
didn't get ahold of the transcripts. Think about like, if
he hadn't done enough digging to try and get this information,
none of that stuff would have come out, and this
would have all still been going on, and it would
have been like, man, really hope they can get a
better deal for us. Meanwhile, there whatever strip club they're
at this week or next year.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You know we need to do We need to have
Lee try to call maybe either in the next segment
during the break and just give us an idea of
how much it costs to get a conference room at
one of these hotels in South Florida versus the deal
that he just signed up for the VIP room at tutsis. Honestly, yeah,
maybe they called around and they're like, dude, you're not
gonna believe this, but we actually can't find a better
(20:43):
deal than Tutsi's VIP room special. So that's where your
meeting when you go out in Courlando.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, Lee, Lee, you think you can make that happen
on We'll get a price point on that. Moving forward,
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If you are listening to us. A few minutes ago,
really important stuff out of the NFL. The NFLPA is
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in shambles. Lloyd Howe, the former executive director J C.
Tretder or gone. The Lloyd Howe conversation took a turn
in the past few days when the evidence came out
that Lloyd was trying to expense strip club visits while
working with the NFLPA, most notably at Tootsi's and Magic City.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Magic City has exposed a lot of athletes, a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
At sports are getting called out.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Meanwhile, Rob Parker like he'll just go there and broadcast it,
like he's got no issue talking about magic Has he.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Done a show from Magic City yet?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
No, But there is the conversations that Rob has had
and then there's the stuff that I've seen from Magic
City when Rob's gone, And those are two different things
that he talks about publicly and what he talks about privately.
So I don't want to air his dirty laundry. Here,
but maybe Rob Arker could be the next executive director
(23:02):
of the NFLPA. So upon that whole discussion that we
were having, Brady brought up the phenomenal point, what would
be the difference in cost between getting a meeting at
a conference room and having a meeting at Magic City
or at Tootsies or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And so yeah, I mean again, I think there's two
ways of looking at this. As we're winning on lead here.
There's one direction, which is you go to the traditional route.
You find a nice hotel conference room where all the
boys can come stay, you guys can converse, do some business.
That can get it pricey. Can get expensive, and we've
learned that here at Fox Sports Radios. I'm gallivanting across
(23:41):
the country trying to find different places to do the
show from that can get pricey. So look, if this
is thinking outside the box, Yes, looks about on the surface,
but maybe just maybe they were trying to save the
NFLPA a few bucks. Lee, what have we found out?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Well, I have.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Looked around different areas between Fort lad Dale in Miami,
and you could find some really nice spots, so nice
that I have to find a sales representative I put
in a few calls. They're going to get back to me. Unfortunately,
it's still too early for them to be in the offices.
But I have found a few places where these are
the crumier spots that are like one hundred and fifty
bucks an hour. So if you put that to you know,
(24:18):
eight hours, that's going to be twelve hundred bucks. But
that doesn't come with fourteen hundred dollars that goes towards
food and beverage plus holds.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
What was the total cost? What was the total cost
of the vip room?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
The vip room was two thousand dollars. It's a private
room with TVs, your own VIP hostess, and fourteen hundred
dollars to spend on food and beverage.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Wait, so is that like fourteen hundred in addition to
the spending the two thousand, Like that's value or you
have to hit that minimum.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I think that's included, is what it says. Let me
double it says for I know right.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Well, no, I'm saying, like I think they're going to
be charging you fourteen hundred dollars for food and whatnot?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Fourteen hundred We always spend tab for drinks and food
of your choice.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Right, I wonder if part of that is, you know,
what's probably the minimum therely, Well, why don't we just
charge a flat fee and then as soon as these
guys get in here in the front of their pants
get a little tight, we'll go ahead and now we'll
throw on an extra charge and next thing you know,
you're paying a little bit more than you thought you were.
I mean, the hotel conference room just seems like it
(25:25):
would be much easier, but not quite as entertaining.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
They're very nice, but I don't know if they come
with their own private hostess, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Think that's really holding them Backly, you don't think they
could find one of those walking through the room to
their VIP suite or whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I'm just saying, I don't see it necessarily on the website.
But you know what I did, I.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Did like that they pointed out here again, this was
ESPN who did this deep dive on finding out all
this stuff on Lloyd. How I do like how they
pointed out here in the revelation when it came to
how much he was spending or what he was trying
to do, there was cash withdrawals two hundred to five
hundred twenty five dollars from a club atm at Magic City.
(26:11):
Sources and documents say so basically, what that means is
that a guy went up there said, you know what,
I'm just going to take two hundred bucks out and
then went back because the two hundred didn't get him
far enough and went back and took five twenty five
out just because I'm not taking any chances here, Like,
I got to make sure that next time I go
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in there, two hundred dollars, that's not cutting it. Five
twenty five and that way you're gonna get at least
five six songs in a row. And maybe just maybe,
depending on what your wardrobe is for the night. Maybe
he's wearing bike shorts. Everybody goes, So I'm happy, if
you know what I mean. So it is interesting that
this was the NFLPA and then everyone was wondering why
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it is that they couldn't seem to get deals done
when it came to negotiate with the owners. They're busy.
They're busy, clearly busy. So Lee, that's that's where we look.
So you would say that the best bang for your buck,
no pun intended, would be you think Tutsi's or you
think a conference room.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Tutsi's cabaret, or Ocean Point Slash or the Palms in
uh in Miami.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yes, the Palm's a hotel spot yea. Or Ocean Point
Wedding and Events.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Those are good spots, very pretty beach front.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And we were unable to get anybody on the phone
at this time.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
No, I've put it.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I've put in a requests, so maybe by the end
of the show I'll have an update for you.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
What about Tutsies? Anybody at Tutsi's right now?
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I bet you you know right now?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Come on, all right? It says it doesn't own it's
also what.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Is it eleven down there in Miami? I think it's
a twenty four to seven club, strip club, so you
could probably call that place.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Ah damn, you know what.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Tutsi's closes at six am?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, right as we go on the air, because well
they want to listen to the show, clearly, but there's
got to be somebody still there cleaning up. And there's
a lot to clean up it too. The prices ye
like yeah, let's see, Uh do you want to do?
You want to try and call and see what the
answering machine is like at Tutsies, just to see if
we can get that on the air.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
We'll just see exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Just some people know, we're not making this stuff up here.
We're like, we're doing our due diligence, all right. We're
trying to get to the bottom of what's so great
about Tutsies that people from the nfl p A have
to go right off a flight instead of going home.
That's that's how we're trying to get to the bottom
up here. All right, So Lee is going to effort
getting uh for.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Our address and directions. Press one for our hours of operation.
Press two for party reservations. Press four resources accounts payable.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
All right, so we're going to get.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
To you.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Entertainers. Press seven.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Leading even wait, that could be you, buddy, entertain.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
This is not a personal call. This is for show research.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
What are your fat bones? Hit the wrong button.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
For drink special?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Deep?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, are you having to call back because you hit
entertain There's no male strippers at this place?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Ah no, yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, there's that mailbox is full for reservation buy Oh hey,
that's about right.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm sure after this old debacle, everyone's trying to schedule Manning,
you tell me I get a VIP suite there for
two thousand bucks for eight hours.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, you think Tony Clark from the MLBPA is like, well, geez,
I don know that was on the table.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't know that was a possibility.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Nobody will find out about it unless Pablo Tory gets
ahold of it. That's great, all right, Well, listen, I
think we've uh, I think we've really uncovered a lot here.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I'm glad it took a Harvard NBA guy.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Mostly is bananas.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Next time someone from Howard sticks up their noses, you
just remember, all right, this is how it all went out.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
God, Well, look there we go. That's how to sum
up the state of affairs with the Players Association of
the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
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So it's time to get the FSR IR report.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
All right, Lee, what do we got?
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Well, as you know, my dog sitting week is coming
to an end. In fact, oh, the dog made it. Well,
there's still time.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
There's about three hours left until his owner arrives at Lax.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
We set the over under it. What Saturday the dog
wouldn't make it the Saturday.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah, he made it strong and well it was a
close one because Saturday night I decided to uh, basically
have a little not shin dig but just you know,
hang out at the neighbors spot because he's got a
really good wet bar. And I think I helped myself
to a little too much that I probably need to
replace some I think I killed.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I think I killed a bottle and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Or two of what of what?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
The cheap stuff I didn't like he's got. You know,
I help myself to sell gin basically a huge bottle
of bombay.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
And doesn't gin kill the most brain cells of all
the alcohol?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I don't know how do we rock that?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
How would I know it that's true? I mean, if
I'm doing that much, you know the way.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
One minor observation of lead a lap coming back from Briggs.
Whenever there's a song on, Lee tends to sing the
girl part of the song as it's playing. You know, yeah,
I noticed that I felt that was interesting. I don't
see many guys sing the girl part of songs.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Well, you know, some people aren't comfortable in their own skin,
you know.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So you're saying he blew through a whole bottle of
bombas after No.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I didn't kill the bombay, but I did put a
sizeable dent in it.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
He doesn't drink gin, so I felt fine about that one.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Uh yeah, no big deal.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Then, yeah, he had lots of He had lots of
scotch and whiskeys, so I killed the cheap JMO.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Still, one of my favorite Lee moments that you had
to be there to really witness, was when we were
in Ireland and you know, we're waiting on the Uber.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Or whatever they call it out there.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
The free Now like whatever those ubers are in Ireland,
and we're waiting downstairs outside to go do the show
because the show doesn't start till eleven am local time,
and we're just all kind of sitting there, a little
jet lagged, maybe a little bit hungover. Lee just says,
in a quiet moment, into that whiskey a little bit
(34:01):
in the room when I got back there last night, you.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Mean the whiskey in that bottle.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
The whiskey they gave to the entire show, and Lee
had it in his room.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I just couldn't resist.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
He had to scratch the itch after he had already
gone out drinking for the night.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh boy, I had to kill it.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I mean, they're not gonna let me onto the plane
with that bottle, so you had to enjoy it while
you're there.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I guess win in Dublin, I guess.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
But the dog is okay. Dog is okay.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Like I said, he's got a few more hours left.
And then the next morning, as I was hungover, I
walked him all the way to my folks place, and
then he decided to urinate all over my parents' house.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
How old is that dog?
Speaker 4 (34:38):
By the way, included on one of my shirts.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He's uh, like, you're certainly he does that. Already thought
it was a place to go to the bathroom. Maybe
it smells like a toilet.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Soone well, and I couldn't figure out if maybe my
you know my dogs that I they're my parents' dogs.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I call them my dogs.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I think they started to urinate all over the place
because this strange dog had come in.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
You started dogs everywhere the war zone of urination.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, it might what is it contagious?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
All these dogs are just like laying down their.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Territory, wait better outside?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
How do your parents take that?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
They were all too happy about it.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I mean, obviously, you guys know I put this dog
usually comes with a diaper. But I didn't realize I
was gonna be walking all the way to the folks place.
They just happened to be closer to them than I
wasn't mine at that point.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
So and how and the dog is howled again.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
He's probably twelve years old something like that.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
If you can't potty train a dog, just I mean,
what's the point of his It's.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Well, he's still intact. You know, he hasn't been robbed
of his family jewels.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
He's just dog.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
So those kind of dogs, I think they are more
inclined to mark their two.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Are you talking about? I had a box and we
never got him taken off. He's fine, he would we're
a diaper everywhere.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Well, yeah, some breeds are better than he's not my dog.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Not my dog. I don't know many people that don't
neuter their dog or spade their dog. And they're saying, oh,
they need to wear a diaper.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Yeah, But like I agree.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I've never heard of dog diapers in my life.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I don't even put it like I I gave up
on using them. I was tired of doing it, but
turned out it did backfire and my parents place.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
So you literally had one job changed the dog's diapers
and he didn't even do that.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
I did from time to time.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
You're ready to have a kid, Lee, let me tell you.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
I ran out of diapers, like I had to order
more diapers.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But you know how old that dog is deceased? That's
how old that dog is. Okay, that thing is dead.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'll put it.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
By the time the NFL season starts, what is the
September eighth or whatever it is, September seventh, that dog
will no longer be with us. I'll call my shot.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I made it a week.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
I got him, I got him home, all right, that's
all that matters.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You imagine he gets home today and that dogs.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Can you imagine if we had to have leeve watch
one of our kids.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Oh god, great time, uncle, he is the best.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Trust you.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Oh that's not good, Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Loreno will help. She'll do all the work.
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