July 22, 2025 • 39 mins
Bengals Owner, Mike Brown, speaks on holdouts from Shemar Stewart and Trey Hendrickson but reporters hold his feet to the fire. The guys share what there are frugal on. Brady apologizes for being a friend. Plus, rivalries aren’t what they used to be in the NFL.
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of NFL, all sorts of fun stuff out there about
the National Football League. We started last hour talking about
Jerry Jones doing what Jerry Jones does. He gets to
Oxnard for training camp and lets it fly talking about
deals and the cautionary tales of handing out deals, and
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then you go from that over to the AFC, where
you've got the Cincinnati Bengals, who were speaking yesterday at
the team's annual luncheon, and Bengals team president Mike Brown
decided to discuss the contract situation with Shamar Stewart, their
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first round pick who was still not signed, and tried
to explain the reasoning behind that decision yesterday.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
This one is surprising. I hesitate to get into the detail,
but basically it turns on whether out ears are guaranteed
if he gets involved in conduct detrimental to football. Well,
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what does that mean? Detrimental to football? In recent years
has been violence to women. That's about the one that
comes to my mind. There are others, probably, but that's
the one that I think. If we get a player
who gets involved in something like that or does something
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that is just unacceptable, guess what.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I don't want to pay him.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I really don't. If he's sitting in.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Jail, I don't think I ought to be paying him.
And so we say that if he got involved in
conduct detrimental, we'd have the right to terminate the guaranteed
part for the back years. His agent says, oh, no,
you can terminate the guaranteed part only for the remaining
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part of the year in which the event occurs. Oddly,
something like this has never occurred with us. I don't
think it's going to occur. So we're sitting here arguing
over something that I think is pretty remote. And I
asked myself sometimes why the hell we're doing it? But
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we are, and he's doing it too, and at some
point we got to put this stuff behind and just
get him up here and get him so he can
be a contributor.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
So there's Mike Brown of the Bengals talking about where
they stand when it comes to Shamar Stewart and whether
or not a deal is going to get done.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Here's the hard for a part from me hearing that
sorry Ford and slipping stink about Lee. No one followed
up and just asked the question that really should be asked, Mike,
why are you guys putting a new.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Language in Schmart Stewart's contract.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I mean, I understand you didn't like the president that
was set beforehand with the language in the contract, but
you have multiple players in your roster who are playing
with contracts that have different language, so you ended upholding
them to that. So why are you doing this to
Shamar Stewart and no one else is doing this, it's
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just you, It's just Cincinnati. Now it's throwing prerogative if
they want to do this.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I think.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Look, everyone agrees that if someone's doing something heinous, they're
gonna get in trouble for it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The league's got to.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Suspend them anyway, they're not gonna be able to play,
And yeah, they shouldn't be owed that. It should avoid
some of the guarantees in fact, something that's already written
in these contracts. So it's a little different from the
perspective of what they're trying to do. But I look
at this and just say, you've already set the press
and with other players not doing this, Like, what makes
you think that you're trying to change it now? Is
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going to work with Shamar Stewart and his agent? How
does that fear to them? My bigger question though, is
if they sign Trey Hendrickson, is that a sign where
this thing really could bleed on or is that a
sign where we really could potentially see Schmar Stewart look
at all options and maybe try to go back to
college football.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Duke Tobin, who is the Bengals executive, he's basically their
general manager, and he talked and gave his thoughts yesterday
as to why the deal still hasn't been done with
Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
The negotiations. Yeah, I won't get into all the details
of it. You know, I don't blame Schamar. He's listening
to the advice that he's paying for. I don't understand
the advice. I don't agree with it. I'm not the
one paying for it. But that's where it is. If
I thought we were treating him unfairly, it would be
a different story. But we're treating him fairly with all
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the rest of the draft picks in.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This year's draft.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Zach Hiller, the agent for Shamar Stewart, heard that and
had this statement quote, Duke Tobin has had no involvement
in this negotiation and it seems to be above his
pay grade.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
So it just it just continues to drag on man
like this. This is why does Shamar Stewart, By the way,
does he have any track record of any arrests of
any Is there anything I don't know like that?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
That's why. And you asked the question like why why now?
I look, I could kind of understand, Hey, this guy's
got a checkered past. There's some stuff there. We want
to make sure that we're going to be safe with
all this. If there's none of that, what am I
missing it? Just like it just feels like more nickel
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and dime stuff with them.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
This becomes the issue for every company. By the way,
this isn't just like exclusive to a sports franchise, but
when they want to change the language within their contracts
with their employees and what's guaranteed to them and what's
not based on certain circumstances, and there comes a point
in time where maybe with their legal counsel wants to,
you know, plant their flag and say this is the year.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
We're gonna do it. Everyone's gonna have to agree with it.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
And in this case, what's I guess what's surprising about
it is the need for the position. Like of all
the people, I mean, this is the position that you
need the most. You have one guy retire, you have
another guy who you haven't who's who's been extremely productive,
that's playing way under his market value in Trey Hendrickson,
and he's in his last year of his deal, still.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Winning on a new deal, and.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Then you draft Schamar Stewart's replacement and you don't want
to sign him to his contract. So when people want
to say, like, oh, you know, you're just a Bengals hater, No, no,
I'm not. I love Joe Burrow. I love watching him
play the game. This team is one of the most
fun teams to watch. The difficulty is you have to
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understand the ownerships. They're cheap and they're not willing to
invest to allow this team to compete for a Super Bowl.
We're gonna have Pete Prisco and I'm sure he'll just
going to defend Duke Tobin because he's close to some
of these guys and he yucks it up with them.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm telling you right now, he will defend Tobin. He
yucks it up with them.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
All Right, So you've you've done this before, call your shot.
If you ask Pete a question about Duke Tobin, what
will his response be?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
All right?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
If we've we've got to get the something along the line.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I think what we do to make it fair is
we play the sound from Duke Tobin and we let
Pete react. And I'm telling you right now, he's going
to react in a Maynor that defends the Bengals in
Duke Tobin. And here's the crazy thing is because when
Joe Burrow was drafted on Draft night, number one overall,
p went out on a limb. He'd said Joe Burrow
would win multiple championships with the Bengals. Now, I was
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there with a few other people who heard this. He
claims it was only one. But really the only reason
why question whether or not Joe Burrow would be able
to win multiple super Bowls with the Bengals, It's not
Joe Burrow. It's the Bengals, and it's because of decision
like this from their ownership or their front office and
how they handle business.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And if you want to, if you if you want.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
To look at one of the reasons why the Bengals
have underperformed, just look at the slow starts they've gotten
off to in the first four games of any season.
Go back to the last five years. Do you want to
know how many winning records they've had that the first
four games at that point three and one are bet
Do you want to know how many they've had?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Zero?
Speaker 6 (09:27):
And if you extrapolate that even further, compare it to
Baltimore for example, the last five years right there at
the top of the division, they've won every single year.
Look at the Steelers by comparison three at the last
five seasons, where five.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Hundred are better.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Oh, and then if you look at like Kansas City
for example, the Bills don't worry just every single year
they've gotten off to a faster start and I had
a winning record after the first four games. If you
don't think that stuff plays a role or factor in
building momentum or allow these teams to be consistently in
the playoffs, you're dead wrong. And the problem is the
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Bengals don't handle business in the offseason. They're either going
to be coming in late with the rookie and then
figuring out the old Trey Hendrickson hold out, or they're
gonna have to, you know, pay Trey Henderson and will
figure out how to make the rest work with Samar Stewart.
Maybe he comes back, maybe he doesn't, whatever the case
may be. This is one of the many issues they've
botched because what was their weakest link coming into the offseason.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's their defense.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, and they didn't address the most important position on defense.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
And Zach Taylor this offseason has said that they're going
to get you know, some playing time in the preseason.
He thinks that's what the issue is when it comes
to their slow starts, because it has been a problem.
That's why. Look last year when people were saying, well,
Kansas City, they didn't want to play Cincinnati. That's why
they they laid an egg in the final week of
the season. Man tough balls. Cincinnati had all those opportunities
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early on. They lost games they should have won because
they couldn't stop anybody, most notably against Baltimore. I think
I think they lost twice to Baltimore last year. Like
that's on them, Like, don't expect somebody else to do
your work late in the season when you had work
to do early and you didn't get it done again,
which has always been the problem over the past four
or five years for the Bengals. Now the subject of
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Trey Hendrickson. Mike Brown did also talk about that, and
he broke down sort of what negotiations are like with
Trey Hendrickson. Here was the Bengals team president.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
We aren't going to trade Trey. We're working to get
Trey signed as we speak here, there are guys over
in the office working to get that. I think it'll
get done. It is the way Trey can be. We
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like Trey as a person. He's a good guy. But
when it comes to these negotiations, and we've been through
a few of them with him, he pushes hard, he
gets emotional. We never have an easy time of it.
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But there's one thing that is consistent. It always gets done,
and I think this one will. But we'll see. I've
been proven wrong before, but I am pretty confident that
we'll get there at the end.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
So there was Don Rickles breaking down the contract negotiations
with Trey Hendrickson. So tell me that guy didn't look
like Don Rickles. He looks a little bit like Don.
I'm telling you, it looks a little bit like Don.
When they showed Mike Brown on TV yesterday discussing the
contract situations with Cincinnati, I was like, Oh, that's the
guy who ran the movie theater on Dirty Work, Like
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I know that guy that was de Niro's right hand
man and Casino, I know that guy. That's Don Rickles. Ultimately,
the fact that Mike Brown breaks down the negotiations with
Trey Hendrickson. The vibe got from that was yeah, yeah, yeah.
Trey says this. He says that he gets emotional, but
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we always end up getting it done. If I'm Trey Hendrickson,
I'm like, dude, kiss my ass like I'm looking. I
want to get paid. And if you're not going to
pay me, trade me, like, send me to somewhere. Don't
make a ridiculous asking price in return. Send me somewhere,
and let's just move on with our lives if it's
not gonna happen here. Because if you're Trey Hendrickson, there's
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no way he can show up at this point, right.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It'd be tough too.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I think he should be dug in and rightfully so,
he's outperformed his contract. They've known now for a couple
of years. And the worst part about this, I your
Cincinnati is there are other trade partners. You know, a
team like the New England Patriots for a rumor to
be in connection with the Sincanti Bengals because they needed
an edge rusher and Trey Hendrickson seemed to be a
really good fit for them, and nothing ever came from it.
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So if you look at from the Bengals standpoint, if
you're a fan, you're probably at least botched that scenario
as you got his you know, replacement in waiting and
Shamar Stewart the first round pick. You could have got
some draft capital in exchange for him, but instead this
whole thing drug on now where I don't think you're
gonna get the best to offer for him because of
how late you are, you know, getting into the season.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
So one Pete Prisco is going to defend Duke Tobin
and the bank.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you he's going. Here's the
weird thing about Pete. Pete's the type where he'll say
things like what's good for me is good for me,
and try to get all the money you can while
you're playing. He'll see all these things, and then he'll
immediately contradict himself when he knows a few people from
the front office of certain organizations and he listen, He's
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gonna argue with me about this. I'm already telling you.
He will argue with me about how they're changing the
language this year in the contracts and why the Bengals should.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Be able to do that.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
He will argue on their behalf. I'm telling you he
does this with the guys that are nice to him
that he knows the organizations.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
All right, so you've called your shot. Pete Prisco will
cape up for the Cincinnati Bengals coming up next hour.
It did give me to thinking, though, because if the
Bengals are this cheap, everybody's got something that they're really
cheap about in their life, like really frugal about. Can
you think of on the top off the top of
your head, just something you're really cheap about, something you
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refuse to pay top dollar for because it just you're
not doing it no matter what. There's certain things you'll
splurge on, you're just not doing it with this.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Probably airlines travel.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I mean, you know, I've told you my stories of
the round up with Old Southwest or like flying Spirit
or some of these like discount airlines, mostly because I'm
okay flying on a lesser airline as long as it's.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
A direct flight.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
So I would say that's like the number one thing
where I don't I don't mind, you know, sit an economy,
sitting in some discount airline, do whatever, as long as
it gets me back to my family faster it's a
direct flight.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I'm down for that sports betting for me. My wife
was giving me a hard time because I was waiting
to cash a ticket. I bet on Max Holloway to
beat Dustin Poier this weekend in the UFC event, and
I was waiting to cash the ticket and the return
was fourteen dollars. Literally, I'm standing behind guys who were
being paid out one hundred dollars bills in front of
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me because they also bet on Max Holloway, these guys
from Hawaii, and I'm watching them count the cash and
I literally give my ticket to this guy and he
goes fourteen, hands me a ten and four ones in return. Oh,
I was like, why even bother? At that point, I'm like,
I don't know. I just wanted some action I cannot find.
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I cannot get to a point to where I'm betting
any more than say, twenty dollars on a sporting event.
I just can't do it. I'm very frugal. That's my
Bengals moment.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
By the way, there's a lot of things that you
could actually throw in that category.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
For you. You're the one of more frugal, cheap people. I like,
what everything else?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Because my truck's a little old.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You literally starve yourself into need food just because it
saves you money.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
No, that's not why, but that is that also a
side perked all that. Yeah, you do, you do end
up saving a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Here about the wedding, did you like purposely have it
during Covido?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, that was great. Yeah. So we had the wedding
during COVID and it was before one of the shutdowns
and or one of the lockdowns, because out out here
in California there was like four hundred lockdowns. And listen,
some people are still locked down, you know, depending on
depending on who you are. You'll see it from time
to time, people driving in their cars wearing you know, masks.
It's it's an interesting phenomenon out here, but things are
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different here in California. And they did a lockdown a
week before our wedding. There was discussions about just canceling
it because the venue wasn't going to be open. We
had a mariachi band hired, they weren't going to be playing, like,
there was all sorts of stuff that was happening, and
I was on the verge of having the discussion with
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my wife about hey, let's just go ahead and just
reschedule this like it's but you know, I want to
make sure that everybody can be here. And then I
thought to myself, we're saving like at least a couple
grand on this thing. Brilliant, And so we just went
through with a little bit of a subpar wedding during
COVID blamed it on the pandemic, for the accommodations not
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being what a lot of people expected them to be,
and we were out. Baby, I think that wedding costs
like fourteen dollars itself, and put.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It on your honeymoon, so that's always good too.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Well, look, we had ye stuff plan that didn't that
didn't go through, but we're hoping to knock that out
in August, so hopefully we'll get that.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Taken care of.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
But look, Lee, do you have anything that you're the
bangles on, very frugal on.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Well, you know me, I'm a well I go for
well drinks, so I'm never going top shelf.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
So yeah, just the Well's fine.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Whenever the bartender asked, you got a call on that,
Wal's fine, and then just you know close. I pretty
much just kind of take what falls to me. I've
always I was always the young one of all the cousins,
so I always just got the hand me downs, so
I'm used to that. And then shopping, like grocery shopping,
I never go name brand. I'll go with the all
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store brand, store brand all the time.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, as long as it says compared to the active
ingredients on the top. Yeah, my mom taught me that. Yeah,
you do that all the time. Just look compared to
the active ingredients. It's just as good. Yeah. Look that's
I mean, bag cereal, Like, why do you need honey
nut cheerios when you can get toasted o's and.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Oh toasted otes are great?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
They're not, Yes, they are, come on half the price.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Are pretty good.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Actually, yeah those are fine. Lareina. What are you cheap about?
What are you the bangles about? Usually gas prices.
Speaker 10 (19:41):
I will always find the cheapest place for gas.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Prices as you will drive around wasting more gas to
find No.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
No, but I but I, but I like mentally recall
where the cheapest spots are. So like, there's one I
passed by the other day, it's three sixty nine. I
love a good cheap gas.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Wow, three sixty nine. Yeah, I'm going there. This tell
me where it's at.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Yeah, we're that's crazy to hear you guys say that
in other parts of the country, that's like, you know, premium.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Oh yeah, it's it's ridiculous out of here four fifty
at least anywhere, Yeah, anywhere you go. But yeah, but
like you're like, what's it like, you're saving what ten
to fifteen cents?
Speaker 10 (20:15):
Yeah, but then you know, the difference between cash and
credit is another ten cents on top of that. Think
about it.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I guess it adds up. Get a gas card, you know,
get something that you'll get money back when you buy gas,
then you got to pay that back. And I'm just
not responding.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Can we swing back to Jonas for the other fourteen
thousand things that he's really cheap on?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
What do you want to hear about?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Pretty much everything? All right?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So what else am I really really cheaping ross dress
for less? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
You will look to find things already a discounted store, absolutely, yeah,
and you'll try to find it even more discount.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Absolutely, Like some people like Nordstrom, you start at Nordstrom rack.
If you can't find it there, maybe you'll have a
conversation about going there. There's also if you go to
a mace Ease down below. Macy's is a place like
on the lower level. It's called off It's like Macy's
off brand or something like that, and it's all the
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stuff that they're going to be getting rid of that
they have down below if you go to a Macy's
and them all somewhere. So there is that if you
want to share. Yeah, like there's there's you know, just
you can find deals. But the Bengals are trying to
find deals with their draft picks and their best players
on defense, and so I think it's it's the same thing.
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And by the way, there's more. You act like you
don't have some things you're cheap about as well too, Brandon,
all right, I already named one. Yeah, like airline travel. Yeah,
all right, So I would say, what else do we got?
You're not going to overpay to golf, like you're not
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You're not going to overpay.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
I mean, I don't know that i'd really I don't
know how to just that. I probably wouldn't. But at
the same time, I would just not golf. I don't
know if that's a fair comparison. Golf isn't cheap it
in general, Like if you.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Were one of those people who.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
So we're gonna say something like that, like Lee, Like
Lee would probably be more in that category than I
would be. Look, i'd go play Pebble or one of
the really nice ones that costs probably a thousand bucks
whatever it is to play, which it's actually way more
than that, because I believe you have to stay on
property and it's a whole thing from there. But I would,
I would pay good money to go play. Of course,
like that, what about cars? You pay money for cars?
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Top dollar for cars?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, no, so you're not a car guy.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, I don't really care what I drive.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, I don't. That's always been the one that's blown
my mind. Like people that spend an exorbitant amount of
money on cars, I've never understood. If you've got one,
that should be enough. Like you've got one to go?
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Are you saying, like Mike Brown in the Bengals have
a bunch of beaters in the parking lot, like they're
just like a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Like just terrible.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, you're truck would fit in there. That's that's I mean,
that's rude. But you're probably right. And look, my truck
just reached the three hundred and eighty three thousand mark. Okay,
so it's an O six and I'm proud of it.
And I've got one car. That's all I need. I've
been my wife has gotten on me, LeVar has gotten
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on me. Everybody's gotten on me. You need a new one,
You need a new one. But you just drive that
thing until you don't drive it anymore. So listen, everybody's
got a little bangles in him. It just depends on you, know,
how you choose to do it. Also, I would say
this about Lee. Nobody is better other than maybe my nephew.
My nephew's really good at this at knowing daily deals
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where you can get stuff for cheap. When it comes
to food, like Lee knows, like that should be a
segment we do Lee's Daily Deal. You know every place
that's got some sort of a deal every single day
of the week.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I do.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
I do know that, But I'll say that that's kind
of where I do spend my most money is eat out.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
And yeah, I've noticed I've noticed that with Lee because
even at nicer restaurants, does not hold back. He looks
for an expensive bottle of wine. He's really trying to
delve into it. I've witnessed this by picking up a
few meals.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
By the way, I've gotten number when Lee drank that
bottle that someone else bought for us by himself.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Because no one's gonna what. Nobody's helping me.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
That's on you guys. By the way, I have I
did receive a text message from somebody listening to the
show who claims to know Brady Quinn very well. Uh,
and they say where you go cheap is on wine.
You never drink good wine. That is definitely not true.
That's that's just what I've been told.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Again.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
You know, I don't wanna uh, I don't want to
air anybody out here who may have said that.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
But you know, well I know some people with sell wine,
so you know, they're just more upset. I don't buy
wine from them. But that's what it's more about.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Also, there was zero appreciation.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
Is that zero?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Zero appreciation for uh, for yesterday's duds?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Is that really what the backstory is?
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Now?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
The backstory is again just let's just get this all
out there. And this is this is gonna be.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
A tough revelation for one of my buddies because basically,
this is what happened I'm gonna air him out.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'm not life forgear about that. We're want to come
back with us. We're gonna break, We'll come back with us,
all right.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So somebody's gonna get that work.
Speaker 11 (25:34):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Somebody listening to Fox Sports Radio who happens to be
a close friend of the show here is going to
get that work here live on the air. It is
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. That's next here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 4 (26:02):
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Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up a
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on this new era of football and how social media
plays an impact on it all. We'll get into that
for you again a little over twelve minutes from now.
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were saying before we went to break, you were going
to out somebody who listens to the show here.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah, well one of my buddies who listens to
the show. Who this is a It wasn't that recent,
but it happened probably in the last few months. Basically
long story short, growing up with them. One of my
best friends. But he's complaining about the fact that we're
friends because I happened to give like a video shout
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out for his company, and he was upset with the
fact that no one really knew we were friends before
that video shout out at his company. But once the
video shoutout happened, then he has to be inconvenience with
people asking him questions about whatever it could be, whether
it was my career, us being friends hanging out. It
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could be current college football, NFL topics, or questions about
our radio show. His whole point was, it's a burden
to be my friend now because it's impacted his career
which I told him, given the fact that I feel
like I've taken care of him pretty darn well throughout
his life, that is one of the most ridiculous things
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everyone's ever said. So now I just constantly apologize for
being his friend.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
So, now, is this somebody who may or may not
have called into the show while warns twice at some
point throughout the course of your friendship here since working
at FSR, I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Sure he's called it at some point.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
I'm pretty sure there was an Easter that he was
pretty hammered on that he called it.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I would seem like
that would seem like it would be a perk to
be your friend, especially all the all the opportunities and doors.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
And I hope that it was a bit rich coming
off of a trip that we took to see some
playoff games. You know, he was a part of that
twenty four hour span where we were able to fly
up and back to South Bend to go watch that game,
and he's standing next to Shane Gillis and other people,
you know, in a booth watching the game. And then
we're down in Columbus the next the next night watching
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Ohio State Tennessee having a good time.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You would think, you would think, but.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
No, by the way, I think. So I remember this
person that we were discussing. I remember, and I don't
know anything. I don't know, you know, the background or
anybody's reputation or anything like that. But at your golf
tournament the year that I went, I remember, after the tournament,
we were going to a place. Some people had had
some drinks and we were going to take an uber
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and somebody was complaining, like, oh, he always does this,
Like does what? And they were complaining because he needed
to be dropped off at his place or needed to
drop his car off at his place so that he
could get the ride in the uber and not have
that responsibility to worry about. And so I heard that
from a couple of people, like, oh, typical him, he
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always does this. So there is a little bit of
a reputation that precedes this individual. But he's fun and
we love him. Yeah, And you know, I don't know.
I don't know what to say about the cheap wine
accusation that that feels a little bit insulting.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You'd know that better than I.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
But yeah, here's the thing is, we're not you know,
we're true friends. We could still be competitive through all
of it. You know, We're not like some of the
guys who kind of act like the friends but make
themselves out to the enemies.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
A good call, good call. Yeah, there is that discussion
to be had here, and we are going to have
that discussion, because if you want to talk about two
of the all time greats in the NFL, apparently there
was a rule you couldn't be friends, you had to
be some enemies. We've got the details on that for you.
That's next here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming off top of
next now, we'll call it about fifteen minutes from now.
Apparently somebody in the world of football's issues were so
bad it's cost them yet again. We'll give you the
details on that for you again about fifteen minutes from
now here on FSR. And before we get to the
(30:55):
talk of enemies, old school versus New School in the NFL.
I want to remind you that you can stream this
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Radio in the iHeartRadio app and it will always pop
up at the top of your screen. So Tom Brady
wrote on his website yesterday about his relationship with Peyton Manning.
He talked about the respect he had for Peyton Manning
and that the respect has grown throughout the years. He
also went on to say this, his respect for Peyton
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Manning was always there, but while we were competing against
each other, I couldn't let that get in the way
of the fact that he was my enemy, that he
didn't respect me, that he thought he was better than
me because he was a number one pick from an
SEC school, or at least that's what I made myself believe.
Convincing myself that those things were true created a sense
of urgency within me to prove him wrong, and it
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provided the extra bit of energy and motivation necessary to
lock in and focus and execute just that much more
so that I could beat him more often than he
could beat me. Brady went on to say, I also
believe this kind of an old school point of view,
considering where we are with social media these days, that
you have to allow your rivals to become your enemies,
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true enemies in your mind and on the field. You
can and should respect them, but you can't look at
them like friendly competition. Brady went on to say this,
I didn't have any real friends on any other teams
when I played. I had the guys on my team
and that was it. That from Tom Brady on his website. Yeah,
those days are over. Like it feels like those days
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are gone because everybody's buddy buddy now, which is a shame.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
I think it's a culmination of things. You know, for quarterbacks,
a lot of these quarterback camps where these young men
get to know each other going through like whether it's
Elite eleven or used through the under Armor series of
Campsy's and Got camps as well. You know that changed
the game to me in regards to quarterbacks, because I
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remember being in high school not ever had having cross
pass with some of the guys that you'd see on
these national lists where you're ranked in the top ten
together and you'd see them maybe every once in a
while where you'd be at a camp for one of
the schools, whether it be Michigan or Ohio State or
Notre Dame, whoever, and at that moment, you're like, I'm
gonna beat this guy. I'm gonna be better than this guy.
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You know, it's different when you're touring around and you're
spending like an intense amount of time and almost like
you're at a camp with some of these kids where
you know you're potentially roommates and you're getting to know
them a little bit. So that's changed in a big way.
I mean, when Tom Brady and Peyton Manning were, you know,
coming out of high school into college college in the NFL,
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it wasn't like that at all. You know, you weren't
going down to the Manning Passing Academy. I think about
obviously Peyton now, who's a huge part of that, but
a lot of these college kids, because how transient things are,
they're going from school to school, and so even if
they're in a quarterback room, they know eventually they'll get
their opportunity, whether it's there or somewhere else, and so
they're still keep in touch. They still are Are you
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act friendly towards one another or more more cheer you know,
you know, I guess, you know, kind of cheering for
one another. It's just to me, it's it's very foreign.
It was something that I could never relate to. I've
always said, you know, a backup quarterback job for a
lot of people out there seems like a great gig
because of how much you get paid, but the spirit
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of it it's awful. I mean, you aren't the guy.
You aren't out there in battle, in competition. You're watching
all your brothers, everyone else out there. It's one of
the worst things that I feel like you have to
do is prepare like you're going to and then you
never get that opportunity. So, you know, looking at how
Tom Brady View had paid man, this draws comparison to
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Michael Jordan for me, where you're trying to make everyone
out to either be an enemy or competition and you're
trying to create that ship on your shoulder. So It's
definitely rare in today's world. But I do think there's
some guys who wouldn't admit it publicly because I think
they're good handling the media. But go ask Josh Allen
if he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder and
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how he feels about everyone les, go Auss, Joe Burrows,
some of these other guys.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I guarantee you if you were.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
On you know, recording it on camera on video, they
would still have some choice words to say.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
You remember when people would complain about Brady Tom Brady
would leave the field and he wouldn't shake certain quarterbacks hands,
or he would leave the field and he wouldn't you know.
Maybe it was Eli Manning was one of them, but
there was there was time throughout, especially later in his career,
where he would just walk off and he would get
criticized for it. Well, he's being a poor sport, he's
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being's this, He's been a dude. He just competed for
three hours in a game that he prepared the entire
week for. They came up short, he lost. He's frustrated.
I get it. Why does he need to sit there
and play nice with the guy afterwards when he just
lost that game that he invested. Well, everybody else is
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doing it. He's not everybody else, as we've seen. That's
not the way he operates. It's not the way he works.
It's why there's been speculation when he was going to
join was it the Raiders or when he was going
to join some team. When he was considering coming back
and ultimately decided on Tampa Bay, that he said, you're
going to go with that fing guy, like that's who,
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That's who Tom Brady was. That that is what made
him great. I like the fact that he was a
little bit of a poor sport. I never had an
issue with him. I swear to god, I thought.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
I only I only have an issue with it is
if whatever you do when you win, do the same
thing when you lose, like you can't be two different
people between him. That to me is what makes you
a bad sport. If you can't handle a lot like
losing the same way you go about handle winning in
regards to your opponent, then to me, that's what makes
it you a bad sport. Like if you're going to
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be the guy who walks out only after you win
to go shake the guy's hands across the way. That's
what I'm saying, because then it comes off as a
whiny cry baby.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Remember when the Bulls I think it was portrayed in
the last Dance where they were upset that the Pistons
walked off the floor before the game was over, and
the Bulls were like, man, what is this like at
least you know, like past the torch on and do
it the right way. And then you come to find out,
oh no, the Celtics did that to the Pistons when
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they walked off the floor like that, Like that's just
old school, That's just the way that things were done
back then and nowadays. I don't know if it's because
of the scrutiny. I don't know if it's because of
the buddy buddy relationships or the passing academies or whatever
it is. It just feels like the era that Tom
Brady's breaking down. The mentality. I just I don't see
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it anymore. I really don't.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
Well, you get some of that radio though, you know,
you get some people who aren't overly fond of other
guys or their people, you know, I mean LeVar Is,
you know, kind of looks out at a lot of
other people as the enemy. Yeah, I think it's it's
probably fair to say.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, he's got that approach for sure. Yeah he I mean, look,
whatever it is that show that he does on Saturdays,
Like I don't even you know, that's not like was
is it?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Undercard on Game? What is the what's the show again? Enemies?
Like there there is a time slot. This is our
time slot and everybody else we're against. That's the way
we operate on this show, and it should be that way,
old school.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I mean, I did.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
I did send some Amma to LeVar this morning. So
I'm sure he'll be getting fired up while he's on
his vacation.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
You think he's awake right now, No chance.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
No chance. But he'll see it.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
He'll see it eventually, he'll watch it and he'll get
all he'll get all triggered and all, he'll get all
fired up.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
So people understand, behind the scenes, Brady and I may
or may not work together to try and get a
rise out of LeVar.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
From time to we poke the bear.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
We'll poke the bear sometimes like one of those like hey,
I wouldn't let him get away with that. But apparently
we're different, just because you know, that's just gonna rev
the engines. Oh I'm all fired up. Oh yeah, so
he's got that to look forward to when he does
wake up and see that text message. So look, tom Brady,
everything worked out great, and the fact that him and
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Peyton Manning can be friends. I do think there is still.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Oh there's still Robber.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
And by the way, I think Peyton Manning flies on
the radar because it's not reported how much he's getting
for what he's doing with Omaha Productions. But I don't know.
That schedule is pretty sweet, kind of gets to make
your own deal, and he's making a lot of money
with it. I mean, Jesus, everybody is tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
But hey, listen, tom Brady's got Sophia ba Gara, so
he's fine. You know, we're all He's still winning that battle.
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
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nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific, talking all sorts
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of NFL, all sorts of fun stuff out there about
the National Football League. We started last hour talking about
Jerry Jones doing what Jerry Jones does. He gets to
Oxnard for training camp and lets it fly talking about
deals and the cautionary tales of handing out deals, and
(01:17):
then you go from that over to the AFC, where
you've got the Cincinnati Bengals, who were speaking yesterday at
the team's annual luncheon, and Bengals team president Mike Brown
decided to discuss the contract situation with Shamar Stewart, their
(01:41):
first round pick who was still not signed, and tried
to explain the reasoning behind that decision yesterday.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
This one is surprising. I hesitate to get into the detail,
but basically it turns on whether out ears are guaranteed
if he gets involved in conduct detrimental to football. Well,
(02:09):
what does that mean? Detrimental to football? In recent years
has been violence to women. That's about the one that
comes to my mind. There are others, probably, but that's
the one that I think. If we get a player
who gets involved in something like that or does something
(02:30):
that is just unacceptable, guess what.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I don't want to pay him.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I really don't. If he's sitting in.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Jail, I don't think I ought to be paying him.
And so we say that if he got involved in
conduct detrimental, we'd have the right to terminate the guaranteed
part for the back years. His agent says, oh, no,
you can terminate the guaranteed part only for the remaining
(02:56):
part of the year in which the event occurs. Oddly,
something like this has never occurred with us. I don't
think it's going to occur. So we're sitting here arguing
over something that I think is pretty remote. And I
asked myself sometimes why the hell we're doing it? But
(03:19):
we are, and he's doing it too, and at some
point we got to put this stuff behind and just
get him up here and get him so he can
be a contributor.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
So there's Mike Brown of the Bengals talking about where
they stand when it comes to Shamar Stewart and whether
or not a deal is going to get done.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Here's the hard for a part from me hearing that
sorry Ford and slipping stink about Lee. No one followed
up and just asked the question that really should be asked, Mike,
why are you guys putting a new.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Language in Schmart Stewart's contract.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I mean, I understand you didn't like the president that
was set beforehand with the language in the contract, but
you have multiple players in your roster who are playing
with contracts that have different language, so you ended upholding
them to that. So why are you doing this to
Shamar Stewart and no one else is doing this, it's
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just you, It's just Cincinnati. Now it's throwing prerogative if
they want to do this.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I think.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Look, everyone agrees that if someone's doing something heinous, they're
gonna get in trouble for it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The league's got to.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Suspend them anyway, they're not gonna be able to play,
And yeah, they shouldn't be owed that. It should avoid
some of the guarantees in fact, something that's already written
in these contracts. So it's a little different from the
perspective of what they're trying to do. But I look
at this and just say, you've already set the press
and with other players not doing this, Like, what makes
you think that you're trying to change it now? Is
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going to work with Shamar Stewart and his agent? How
does that fear to them? My bigger question though, is
if they sign Trey Hendrickson, is that a sign where
this thing really could bleed on or is that a
sign where we really could potentially see Schmar Stewart look
at all options and maybe try to go back to
college football.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Duke Tobin, who is the Bengals executive, he's basically their
general manager, and he talked and gave his thoughts yesterday
as to why the deal still hasn't been done with
Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
The negotiations. Yeah, I won't get into all the details
of it. You know, I don't blame Schamar. He's listening
to the advice that he's paying for. I don't understand
the advice. I don't agree with it. I'm not the
one paying for it. But that's where it is. If
I thought we were treating him unfairly, it would be
a different story. But we're treating him fairly with all
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the rest of the draft picks in.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This year's draft.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Zach Hiller, the agent for Shamar Stewart, heard that and
had this statement quote, Duke Tobin has had no involvement
in this negotiation and it seems to be above his
pay grade.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
So it just it just continues to drag on man
like this. This is why does Shamar Stewart, By the way,
does he have any track record of any arrests of
any Is there anything I don't know like that?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
That's why. And you asked the question like why why now?
I look, I could kind of understand, Hey, this guy's
got a checkered past. There's some stuff there. We want
to make sure that we're going to be safe with
all this. If there's none of that, what am I
missing it? Just like it just feels like more nickel
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and dime stuff with them.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
This becomes the issue for every company. By the way,
this isn't just like exclusive to a sports franchise, but
when they want to change the language within their contracts
with their employees and what's guaranteed to them and what's
not based on certain circumstances, and there comes a point
in time where maybe with their legal counsel wants to,
you know, plant their flag and say this is the year.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
We're gonna do it. Everyone's gonna have to agree with it.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
And in this case, what's I guess what's surprising about
it is the need for the position. Like of all
the people, I mean, this is the position that you
need the most. You have one guy retire, you have
another guy who you haven't who's who's been extremely productive,
that's playing way under his market value in Trey Hendrickson,
and he's in his last year of his deal, still.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Winning on a new deal, and.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Then you draft Schamar Stewart's replacement and you don't want
to sign him to his contract. So when people want
to say, like, oh, you know, you're just a Bengals hater, No, no,
I'm not. I love Joe Burrow. I love watching him
play the game. This team is one of the most
fun teams to watch. The difficulty is you have to
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understand the ownerships. They're cheap and they're not willing to
invest to allow this team to compete for a Super Bowl.
We're gonna have Pete Prisco and I'm sure he'll just
going to defend Duke Tobin because he's close to some
of these guys and he yucks it up with them.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm telling you right now, he will defend Tobin. He
yucks it up with them.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
All Right, So you've you've done this before, call your shot.
If you ask Pete a question about Duke Tobin, what
will his response be?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
All right?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
If we've we've got to get the something along the line.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I think what we do to make it fair is
we play the sound from Duke Tobin and we let
Pete react. And I'm telling you right now, he's going
to react in a Maynor that defends the Bengals in
Duke Tobin. And here's the crazy thing is because when
Joe Burrow was drafted on Draft night, number one overall,
p went out on a limb. He'd said Joe Burrow
would win multiple championships with the Bengals. Now, I was
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there with a few other people who heard this. He
claims it was only one. But really the only reason
why question whether or not Joe Burrow would be able
to win multiple super Bowls with the Bengals, It's not
Joe Burrow. It's the Bengals, and it's because of decision
like this from their ownership or their front office and
how they handle business.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And if you want to, if you if you want.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
To look at one of the reasons why the Bengals
have underperformed, just look at the slow starts they've gotten
off to in the first four games of any season.
Go back to the last five years. Do you want to
know how many winning records they've had that the first
four games at that point three and one are bet
Do you want to know how many they've had?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Zero?
Speaker 6 (09:27):
And if you extrapolate that even further, compare it to
Baltimore for example, the last five years right there at
the top of the division, they've won every single year.
Look at the Steelers by comparison three at the last
five seasons, where five.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Hundred are better.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Oh, and then if you look at like Kansas City
for example, the Bills don't worry just every single year
they've gotten off to a faster start and I had
a winning record after the first four games. If you
don't think that stuff plays a role or factor in
building momentum or allow these teams to be consistently in
the playoffs, you're dead wrong. And the problem is the
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Bengals don't handle business in the offseason. They're either going
to be coming in late with the rookie and then
figuring out the old Trey Hendrickson hold out, or they're
gonna have to, you know, pay Trey Henderson and will
figure out how to make the rest work with Samar Stewart.
Maybe he comes back, maybe he doesn't, whatever the case
may be. This is one of the many issues they've
botched because what was their weakest link coming into the offseason.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's their defense.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, and they didn't address the most important position on defense.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
And Zach Taylor this offseason has said that they're going
to get you know, some playing time in the preseason.
He thinks that's what the issue is when it comes
to their slow starts, because it has been a problem.
That's why. Look last year when people were saying, well,
Kansas City, they didn't want to play Cincinnati. That's why
they they laid an egg in the final week of
the season. Man tough balls. Cincinnati had all those opportunities
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early on. They lost games they should have won because
they couldn't stop anybody, most notably against Baltimore. I think
I think they lost twice to Baltimore last year. Like
that's on them, Like, don't expect somebody else to do
your work late in the season when you had work
to do early and you didn't get it done again,
which has always been the problem over the past four
or five years for the Bengals. Now the subject of
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Trey Hendrickson. Mike Brown did also talk about that, and
he broke down sort of what negotiations are like with
Trey Hendrickson. Here was the Bengals team president.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
We aren't going to trade Trey. We're working to get
Trey signed as we speak here, there are guys over
in the office working to get that. I think it'll
get done. It is the way Trey can be. We
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like Trey as a person. He's a good guy. But
when it comes to these negotiations, and we've been through
a few of them with him, he pushes hard, he
gets emotional. We never have an easy time of it.
(12:08):
But there's one thing that is consistent. It always gets done,
and I think this one will. But we'll see. I've
been proven wrong before, but I am pretty confident that
we'll get there at the end.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
So there was Don Rickles breaking down the contract negotiations
with Trey Hendrickson. So tell me that guy didn't look
like Don Rickles. He looks a little bit like Don.
I'm telling you, it looks a little bit like Don.
When they showed Mike Brown on TV yesterday discussing the
contract situations with Cincinnati, I was like, Oh, that's the
guy who ran the movie theater on Dirty Work, Like
(12:45):
I know that guy that was de Niro's right hand
man and Casino, I know that guy. That's Don Rickles. Ultimately,
the fact that Mike Brown breaks down the negotiations with
Trey Hendrickson. The vibe got from that was yeah, yeah, yeah.
Trey says this. He says that he gets emotional, but
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we always end up getting it done. If I'm Trey Hendrickson,
I'm like, dude, kiss my ass like I'm looking. I
want to get paid. And if you're not going to
pay me, trade me, like, send me to somewhere. Don't
make a ridiculous asking price in return. Send me somewhere,
and let's just move on with our lives if it's
not gonna happen here. Because if you're Trey Hendrickson, there's
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no way he can show up at this point, right.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It'd be tough too.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I think he should be dug in and rightfully so,
he's outperformed his contract. They've known now for a couple
of years. And the worst part about this, I your
Cincinnati is there are other trade partners. You know, a
team like the New England Patriots for a rumor to
be in connection with the Sincanti Bengals because they needed
an edge rusher and Trey Hendrickson seemed to be a
really good fit for them, and nothing ever came from it.
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So if you look at from the Bengals standpoint, if
you're a fan, you're probably at least botched that scenario
as you got his you know, replacement in waiting and
Shamar Stewart the first round pick. You could have got
some draft capital in exchange for him, but instead this
whole thing drug on now where I don't think you're
gonna get the best to offer for him because of
how late you are, you know, getting into the season.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
So one Pete Prisco is going to defend Duke Tobin
and the bank.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you he's going. Here's the
weird thing about Pete. Pete's the type where he'll say
things like what's good for me is good for me,
and try to get all the money you can while
you're playing. He'll see all these things, and then he'll
immediately contradict himself when he knows a few people from
the front office of certain organizations and he listen, He's
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gonna argue with me about this. I'm already telling you.
He will argue with me about how they're changing the
language this year in the contracts and why the Bengals should.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Be able to do that.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
He will argue on their behalf. I'm telling you he
does this with the guys that are nice to him
that he knows the organizations.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
All right, so you've called your shot. Pete Prisco will
cape up for the Cincinnati Bengals coming up next hour.
It did give me to thinking, though, because if the
Bengals are this cheap, everybody's got something that they're really
cheap about in their life, like really frugal about. Can
you think of on the top off the top of
your head, just something you're really cheap about, something you
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refuse to pay top dollar for because it just you're
not doing it no matter what. There's certain things you'll
splurge on, you're just not doing it with this.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Probably airlines travel.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I mean, you know, I've told you my stories of
the round up with Old Southwest or like flying Spirit
or some of these like discount airlines, mostly because I'm
okay flying on a lesser airline as long as it's.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
A direct flight.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
So I would say that's like the number one thing
where I don't I don't mind, you know, sit an economy,
sitting in some discount airline, do whatever, as long as
it gets me back to my family faster it's a
direct flight.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I'm down for that sports betting for me. My wife
was giving me a hard time because I was waiting
to cash a ticket. I bet on Max Holloway to
beat Dustin Poier this weekend in the UFC event, and
I was waiting to cash the ticket and the return
was fourteen dollars. Literally, I'm standing behind guys who were
being paid out one hundred dollars bills in front of
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me because they also bet on Max Holloway, these guys
from Hawaii, and I'm watching them count the cash and
I literally give my ticket to this guy and he
goes fourteen, hands me a ten and four ones in return. Oh,
I was like, why even bother? At that point, I'm like,
I don't know. I just wanted some action I cannot find.
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I cannot get to a point to where I'm betting
any more than say, twenty dollars on a sporting event.
I just can't do it. I'm very frugal. That's my
Bengals moment.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
By the way, there's a lot of things that you
could actually throw in that category.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
For you. You're the one of more frugal, cheap people. I like,
what everything else?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Because my truck's a little old.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You literally starve yourself into need food just because it
saves you money.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
No, that's not why, but that is that also a
side perked all that. Yeah, you do, you do end
up saving a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Here about the wedding, did you like purposely have it
during Covido?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, that was great. Yeah. So we had the wedding
during COVID and it was before one of the shutdowns
and or one of the lockdowns, because out out here
in California there was like four hundred lockdowns. And listen,
some people are still locked down, you know, depending on
depending on who you are. You'll see it from time
to time, people driving in their cars wearing you know, masks.
It's it's an interesting phenomenon out here, but things are
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different here in California. And they did a lockdown a
week before our wedding. There was discussions about just canceling
it because the venue wasn't going to be open. We
had a mariachi band hired, they weren't going to be playing, like,
there was all sorts of stuff that was happening, and
I was on the verge of having the discussion with
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my wife about hey, let's just go ahead and just
reschedule this like it's but you know, I want to
make sure that everybody can be here. And then I
thought to myself, we're saving like at least a couple
grand on this thing. Brilliant, And so we just went
through with a little bit of a subpar wedding during
COVID blamed it on the pandemic, for the accommodations not
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being what a lot of people expected them to be,
and we were out. Baby, I think that wedding costs
like fourteen dollars itself, and put.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It on your honeymoon, so that's always good too.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Well, look, we had ye stuff plan that didn't that
didn't go through, but we're hoping to knock that out
in August, so hopefully we'll get that.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Taken care of.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
But look, Lee, do you have anything that you're the
bangles on, very frugal on.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Well, you know me, I'm a well I go for
well drinks, so I'm never going top shelf.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
So yeah, just the Well's fine.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Whenever the bartender asked, you got a call on that,
Wal's fine, and then just you know close. I pretty
much just kind of take what falls to me. I've
always I was always the young one of all the cousins,
so I always just got the hand me downs, so
I'm used to that. And then shopping, like grocery shopping,
I never go name brand. I'll go with the all
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store brand, store brand all the time.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, as long as it says compared to the active
ingredients on the top. Yeah, my mom taught me that. Yeah,
you do that all the time. Just look compared to
the active ingredients. It's just as good. Yeah. Look that's
I mean, bag cereal, Like, why do you need honey
nut cheerios when you can get toasted o's and.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Oh toasted otes are great?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
They're not, Yes, they are, come on half the price.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Are pretty good.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Actually, yeah those are fine. Lareina. What are you cheap about?
What are you the bangles about? Usually gas prices.
Speaker 10 (19:41):
I will always find the cheapest place for gas.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Prices as you will drive around wasting more gas to
find No.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
No, but I but I, but I like mentally recall
where the cheapest spots are. So like, there's one I
passed by the other day, it's three sixty nine. I
love a good cheap gas.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Wow, three sixty nine. Yeah, I'm going there. This tell
me where it's at.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Yeah, we're that's crazy to hear you guys say that
in other parts of the country, that's like, you know, premium.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Oh yeah, it's it's ridiculous out of here four fifty
at least anywhere, Yeah, anywhere you go. But yeah, but
like you're like, what's it like, you're saving what ten
to fifteen cents?
Speaker 10 (20:15):
Yeah, but then you know, the difference between cash and
credit is another ten cents on top of that. Think
about it.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I guess it adds up. Get a gas card, you know,
get something that you'll get money back when you buy gas,
then you got to pay that back. And I'm just
not responding.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Can we swing back to Jonas for the other fourteen
thousand things that he's really cheap on?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
What do you want to hear about?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Pretty much everything? All right?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So what else am I really really cheaping ross dress
for less? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
You will look to find things already a discounted store, absolutely, yeah,
and you'll try to find it even more discount.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Absolutely, Like some people like Nordstrom, you start at Nordstrom rack.
If you can't find it there, maybe you'll have a
conversation about going there. There's also if you go to
a mace Ease down below. Macy's is a place like
on the lower level. It's called off It's like Macy's
off brand or something like that, and it's all the
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stuff that they're going to be getting rid of that
they have down below if you go to a Macy's
and them all somewhere. So there is that if you
want to share. Yeah, like there's there's you know, just
you can find deals. But the Bengals are trying to
find deals with their draft picks and their best players
on defense, and so I think it's it's the same thing.
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And by the way, there's more. You act like you
don't have some things you're cheap about as well too, Brandon,
all right, I already named one. Yeah, like airline travel. Yeah,
all right, So I would say, what else do we got?
You're not going to overpay to golf, like you're not
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You're not going to overpay.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
I mean, I don't know that i'd really I don't
know how to just that. I probably wouldn't. But at
the same time, I would just not golf. I don't
know if that's a fair comparison. Golf isn't cheap it
in general, Like if you.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Were one of those people who.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
So we're gonna say something like that, like Lee, Like
Lee would probably be more in that category than I
would be. Look, i'd go play Pebble or one of
the really nice ones that costs probably a thousand bucks
whatever it is to play, which it's actually way more
than that, because I believe you have to stay on
property and it's a whole thing from there. But I would,
I would pay good money to go play. Of course,
like that, what about cars? You pay money for cars?
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Top dollar for cars?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, no, so you're not a car guy.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, I don't really care what I drive.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, I don't. That's always been the one that's blown
my mind. Like people that spend an exorbitant amount of
money on cars, I've never understood. If you've got one,
that should be enough. Like you've got one to go?
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Are you saying, like Mike Brown in the Bengals have
a bunch of beaters in the parking lot, like they're
just like a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Like just terrible.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, you're truck would fit in there. That's that's I mean,
that's rude. But you're probably right. And look, my truck
just reached the three hundred and eighty three thousand mark. Okay,
so it's an O six and I'm proud of it.
And I've got one car. That's all I need. I've
been my wife has gotten on me, LeVar has gotten
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on me. Everybody's gotten on me. You need a new one,
You need a new one. But you just drive that
thing until you don't drive it anymore. So listen, everybody's
got a little bangles in him. It just depends on you, know,
how you choose to do it. Also, I would say
this about Lee. Nobody is better other than maybe my nephew.
My nephew's really good at this at knowing daily deals
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where you can get stuff for cheap. When it comes
to food, like Lee knows, like that should be a
segment we do Lee's Daily Deal. You know every place
that's got some sort of a deal every single day
of the week.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I do.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
I do know that, But I'll say that that's kind
of where I do spend my most money is eat out.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
And yeah, I've noticed I've noticed that with Lee because
even at nicer restaurants, does not hold back. He looks
for an expensive bottle of wine. He's really trying to
delve into it. I've witnessed this by picking up a
few meals.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
By the way, I've gotten number when Lee drank that
bottle that someone else bought for us by himself.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Because no one's gonna what. Nobody's helping me.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
That's on you guys. By the way, I have I
did receive a text message from somebody listening to the
show who claims to know Brady Quinn very well. Uh,
and they say where you go cheap is on wine.
You never drink good wine. That is definitely not true.
That's that's just what I've been told.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Again.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
You know, I don't wanna uh, I don't want to
air anybody out here who may have said that.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
But you know, well I know some people with sell wine,
so you know, they're just more upset. I don't buy
wine from them. But that's what it's more about.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Also, there was zero appreciation.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
Is that zero?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Zero appreciation for uh, for yesterday's duds?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Is that really what the backstory is?
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Now?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
The backstory is again just let's just get this all
out there. And this is this is gonna be.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
A tough revelation for one of my buddies because basically,
this is what happened I'm gonna air him out.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'm not life forgear about that. We're want to come
back with us. We're gonna break, We'll come back with us,
all right.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So somebody's gonna get that work.
Speaker 11 (25:34):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Somebody listening to Fox Sports Radio who happens to be
a close friend of the show here is going to
get that work here live on the air. It is
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. That's next here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m. Eastern three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up a
little over twelve minutes from now, somebody has some thoughts
on this new era of football and how social media
plays an impact on it all. We'll get into that
for you again a little over twelve minutes from now.
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were saying before we went to break, you were going
to out somebody who listens to the show here.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah, well one of my buddies who listens to
the show. Who this is a It wasn't that recent,
but it happened probably in the last few months. Basically
long story short, growing up with them. One of my
best friends. But he's complaining about the fact that we're
friends because I happened to give like a video shout
(27:03):
out for his company, and he was upset with the
fact that no one really knew we were friends before
that video shout out at his company. But once the
video shoutout happened, then he has to be inconvenience with
people asking him questions about whatever it could be, whether
it was my career, us being friends hanging out. It
(27:24):
could be current college football, NFL topics, or questions about
our radio show. His whole point was, it's a burden
to be my friend now because it's impacted his career
which I told him, given the fact that I feel
like I've taken care of him pretty darn well throughout
his life, that is one of the most ridiculous things
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everyone's ever said. So now I just constantly apologize for
being his friend.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
So, now, is this somebody who may or may not
have called into the show while warns twice at some
point throughout the course of your friendship here since working
at FSR, I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Sure he's called it at some point.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
I'm pretty sure there was an Easter that he was
pretty hammered on that he called it.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I would seem like
that would seem like it would be a perk to
be your friend, especially all the all the opportunities and doors.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
And I hope that it was a bit rich coming
off of a trip that we took to see some
playoff games. You know, he was a part of that
twenty four hour span where we were able to fly
up and back to South Bend to go watch that game,
and he's standing next to Shane Gillis and other people,
you know, in a booth watching the game. And then
we're down in Columbus the next the next night watching
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Ohio State Tennessee having a good time.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You would think, you would think, but.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
No, by the way, I think. So I remember this
person that we were discussing. I remember, and I don't
know anything. I don't know, you know, the background or
anybody's reputation or anything like that. But at your golf
tournament the year that I went, I remember, after the tournament,
we were going to a place. Some people had had
some drinks and we were going to take an uber
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and somebody was complaining, like, oh, he always does this,
Like does what? And they were complaining because he needed
to be dropped off at his place or needed to
drop his car off at his place so that he
could get the ride in the uber and not have
that responsibility to worry about. And so I heard that
from a couple of people, like, oh, typical him, he
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always does this. So there is a little bit of
a reputation that precedes this individual. But he's fun and
we love him. Yeah, And you know, I don't know.
I don't know what to say about the cheap wine
accusation that that feels a little bit insulting.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You'd know that better than I.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
But yeah, here's the thing is, we're not you know,
we're true friends. We could still be competitive through all
of it. You know, We're not like some of the
guys who kind of act like the friends but make
themselves out to the enemies.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
A good call, good call. Yeah, there is that discussion
to be had here, and we are going to have
that discussion, because if you want to talk about two
of the all time greats in the NFL, apparently there
was a rule you couldn't be friends, you had to
be some enemies. We've got the details on that for you.
That's next here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming off top of
next now, we'll call it about fifteen minutes from now.
Apparently somebody in the world of football's issues were so
bad it's cost them yet again. We'll give you the
details on that for you again about fifteen minutes from
now here on FSR. And before we get to the
(30:55):
talk of enemies, old school versus New School in the NFL.
I want to remind you that you can stream this
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Radio in the iHeartRadio app and it will always pop
up at the top of your screen. So Tom Brady
wrote on his website yesterday about his relationship with Peyton Manning.
He talked about the respect he had for Peyton Manning
and that the respect has grown throughout the years. He
also went on to say this, his respect for Peyton
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Manning was always there, but while we were competing against
each other, I couldn't let that get in the way
of the fact that he was my enemy, that he
didn't respect me, that he thought he was better than
me because he was a number one pick from an
SEC school, or at least that's what I made myself believe.
Convincing myself that those things were true created a sense
of urgency within me to prove him wrong, and it
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provided the extra bit of energy and motivation necessary to
lock in and focus and execute just that much more
so that I could beat him more often than he
could beat me. Brady went on to say, I also
believe this kind of an old school point of view,
considering where we are with social media these days, that
you have to allow your rivals to become your enemies,
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true enemies in your mind and on the field. You
can and should respect them, but you can't look at
them like friendly competition. Brady went on to say this,
I didn't have any real friends on any other teams
when I played. I had the guys on my team
and that was it. That from Tom Brady on his website. Yeah,
those days are over. Like it feels like those days
(32:40):
are gone because everybody's buddy buddy now, which is a shame.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
I think it's a culmination of things. You know, for quarterbacks,
a lot of these quarterback camps where these young men
get to know each other going through like whether it's
Elite eleven or used through the under Armor series of
Campsy's and Got camps as well. You know that changed
the game to me in regards to quarterbacks, because I
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remember being in high school not ever had having cross
pass with some of the guys that you'd see on
these national lists where you're ranked in the top ten
together and you'd see them maybe every once in a
while where you'd be at a camp for one of
the schools, whether it be Michigan or Ohio State or
Notre Dame, whoever, and at that moment, you're like, I'm
gonna beat this guy. I'm gonna be better than this guy.
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You know, it's different when you're touring around and you're
spending like an intense amount of time and almost like
you're at a camp with some of these kids where
you know you're potentially roommates and you're getting to know
them a little bit. So that's changed in a big way.
I mean, when Tom Brady and Peyton Manning were, you know,
coming out of high school into college college in the NFL,
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it wasn't like that at all. You know, you weren't
going down to the Manning Passing Academy. I think about
obviously Peyton now, who's a huge part of that, but
a lot of these college kids, because how transient things are,
they're going from school to school, and so even if
they're in a quarterback room, they know eventually they'll get
their opportunity, whether it's there or somewhere else, and so
they're still keep in touch. They still are Are you
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act friendly towards one another or more more cheer you know,
you know, I guess, you know, kind of cheering for
one another. It's just to me, it's it's very foreign.
It was something that I could never relate to. I've
always said, you know, a backup quarterback job for a
lot of people out there seems like a great gig
because of how much you get paid, but the spirit
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of it it's awful. I mean, you aren't the guy.
You aren't out there in battle, in competition. You're watching
all your brothers, everyone else out there. It's one of
the worst things that I feel like you have to
do is prepare like you're going to and then you
never get that opportunity. So, you know, looking at how
Tom Brady View had paid man, this draws comparison to
(34:53):
Michael Jordan for me, where you're trying to make everyone
out to either be an enemy or competition and you're
trying to create that ship on your shoulder. So It's
definitely rare in today's world. But I do think there's
some guys who wouldn't admit it publicly because I think
they're good handling the media. But go ask Josh Allen
if he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder and
(35:14):
how he feels about everyone les, go Auss, Joe Burrows,
some of these other guys.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I guarantee you if you were.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
On you know, recording it on camera on video, they
would still have some choice words to say.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
You remember when people would complain about Brady Tom Brady
would leave the field and he wouldn't shake certain quarterbacks hands,
or he would leave the field and he wouldn't you know.
Maybe it was Eli Manning was one of them, but
there was there was time throughout, especially later in his career,
where he would just walk off and he would get
criticized for it. Well, he's being a poor sport, he's
(35:46):
being's this, He's been a dude. He just competed for
three hours in a game that he prepared the entire
week for. They came up short, he lost. He's frustrated.
I get it. Why does he need to sit there
and play nice with the guy afterwards when he just
lost that game that he invested. Well, everybody else is
(36:06):
doing it. He's not everybody else, as we've seen. That's
not the way he operates. It's not the way he works.
It's why there's been speculation when he was going to
join was it the Raiders or when he was going
to join some team. When he was considering coming back
and ultimately decided on Tampa Bay, that he said, you're
going to go with that fing guy, like that's who,
(36:28):
That's who Tom Brady was. That that is what made
him great. I like the fact that he was a
little bit of a poor sport. I never had an
issue with him. I swear to god, I thought.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
I only I only have an issue with it is
if whatever you do when you win, do the same
thing when you lose, like you can't be two different
people between him. That to me is what makes you
a bad sport. If you can't handle a lot like
losing the same way you go about handle winning in
regards to your opponent, then to me, that's what makes
it you a bad sport. Like if you're going to
(36:57):
be the guy who walks out only after you win
to go shake the guy's hands across the way. That's
what I'm saying, because then it comes off as a
whiny cry baby.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Remember when the Bulls I think it was portrayed in
the last Dance where they were upset that the Pistons
walked off the floor before the game was over, and
the Bulls were like, man, what is this like at
least you know, like past the torch on and do
it the right way. And then you come to find out,
oh no, the Celtics did that to the Pistons when
(37:25):
they walked off the floor like that, Like that's just
old school, That's just the way that things were done
back then and nowadays. I don't know if it's because
of the scrutiny. I don't know if it's because of
the buddy buddy relationships or the passing academies or whatever
it is. It just feels like the era that Tom
Brady's breaking down. The mentality. I just I don't see
(37:46):
it anymore. I really don't.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
Well, you get some of that radio though, you know,
you get some people who aren't overly fond of other
guys or their people, you know, I mean LeVar Is,
you know, kind of looks out at a lot of
other people as the enemy. Yeah, I think it's it's
probably fair to say.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, he's got that approach for sure. Yeah he I mean, look,
whatever it is that show that he does on Saturdays,
Like I don't even you know, that's not like was
is it?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Undercard on Game? What is the what's the show again? Enemies?
Like there there is a time slot. This is our
time slot and everybody else we're against. That's the way
we operate on this show, and it should be that way,
old school.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I mean, I did.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
I did send some Amma to LeVar this morning. So
I'm sure he'll be getting fired up while he's on
his vacation.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
You think he's awake right now, No chance.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
No chance. But he'll see it.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
He'll see it eventually, he'll watch it and he'll get
all he'll get all triggered and all, he'll get all
fired up.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
So people understand, behind the scenes, Brady and I may
or may not work together to try and get a
rise out of LeVar.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
From time to we poke the bear.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
We'll poke the bear sometimes like one of those like hey,
I wouldn't let him get away with that. But apparently
we're different, just because you know, that's just gonna rev
the engines. Oh I'm all fired up. Oh yeah, so
he's got that to look forward to when he does
wake up and see that text message. So look, tom Brady,
everything worked out great, and the fact that him and
(39:16):
Peyton Manning can be friends. I do think there is still.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Oh there's still Robber.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
And by the way, I think Peyton Manning flies on
the radar because it's not reported how much he's getting
for what he's doing with Omaha Productions. But I don't know.
That schedule is pretty sweet, kind of gets to make
your own deal, and he's making a lot of money
with it. I mean, Jesus, everybody is tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
But hey, listen, tom Brady's got Sophia ba Gara, so
he's fine. You know, we're all He's still winning that battle.
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