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September 25, 2025 38 mins

Jonas, Brady, and LaVar react to Micah Parsons addressing his return to Dallas and discussing the news of the lack of a tribute video. Tom Brady speaks out on his heavily-debated conflict of interest. Plus, has Caleb Williams officially arrived?!

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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
M simple, yeah, no, no.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Oh good, Jonas, come on, Var, come on c I
always think that is gonna get into it more though.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (01:05):
Chilling man. You know, I can't. I can't be y'all
can't y'all should not be able.

Speaker 7 (01:10):
To you know, peer pressure you.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
No, no, no, no, no, just I.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Just like to think that we're like three brothers, you know,
just three brothers hanging out and give each other.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
A hard time. That's that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
That it is.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
And you're the big bro, and we all kind of
like like to poke at you a little bit, you know,
we like to poke the bear a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:28):
Try to get your goal.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, Yeah, clearly I only got one out of the
two parents, and maybe y'all got both of the parents.
And I'm the older one, so I'm like the one
that came into the situational where you know, y'all's parents
found love and made y'all too.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
It's got quick. Yeah. I just thought we were all brothers,
you know, we are.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
Like like the movie with ty Reese and all of them. Yeah,
what was that? Was that?

Speaker 7 (01:52):
Five brothers?

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
For probably the most wild scene in that movie, and
there was some fun ones, was when they just walked
into a basketball gym and started like throwing guns around.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
You remember that? Yeah, I do, I do.

Speaker 7 (02:08):
I was like, this is an interesting scene.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yeah, I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, you probably didn't watch the movie though. I want
to say four brothers. I believe it's called four.

Speaker 7 (02:18):
Yeah, I think it's four brothers.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Then you're right, yeah, yeah, two of each?

Speaker 5 (02:24):
You know, Oh you never seen it?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
One was like Mark Wahlberg and who was the other one?

Speaker 7 (02:32):
Well, isn't he on your team?

Speaker 6 (02:36):
Well you could say that, you could say that. I mean,
Mark can go either way. Mark.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Mark is accepted in Josh Charles. Different cultures but then
you know who he is.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
He's the I know who he is.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Of NFL Network, all the Football Life documentaries. He's from Baltimore.
He's a big football Yeah, so he does the voiceover
for all the football Life stuff.

Speaker 7 (02:59):
The good Wait, Sophia Viciero, isn't that huh?

Speaker 6 (03:04):
No, wonder?

Speaker 7 (03:05):
I liked that movie so much. It makes a lot
of sense.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Now let me tell you, let me tell you pedal
to the medal to.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
This, they sit four brothers. You ain't catch on to that.
You had to have a never mind?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Well had that?

Speaker 6 (03:21):
What? Never mind? What are you getting that?

Speaker 7 (03:27):
Let's move on.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
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Speaker 7 (04:04):
See that to mean is the.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Sort of closed mind thinking though that people have today,
Like I would, I would actually do the opposite, like
you spin it and you're like, hey, we made people
who weren't.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
Fans in the past big fans.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Now every time they go to state college, they're staying
in a Superader six Like that is the exact opposite
line of thinking. That's the closed mindedness of our society
at this point. Is they don't think there's like another
way or another path.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
Oh, there always is, you know, I do?

Speaker 7 (04:36):
Can I not to go back to yesterday's conversation about this.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
If you go on social media, though, you'll see enough
guys who are like they'll go travel around to these
nicer hotels and then they'll still find like bed bugs
or disgusting stuff like five star hotel. Which if that's
happening in a five star hotel, what do you really
got to think that it's another one?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (04:58):
Exactly, it's got to be awful, absolutely awful.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Lorena said she worked at a hotel that she.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
Was what, don't do it? Why do it? Don't tell
us what she was doing?

Speaker 8 (05:10):
I was a housekeeper. What I was a housekeeper one
of my first jobs high school. I was probably one
of the worst housekeepers there. I was very slow. I'd
turn on the TV in every room or put on
some music, and then when the other girls would finish
their whole hallways, they would come up and help me. So, eh,

(05:32):
it wasn't my career. I didn't, you know, the ambition
was not there.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Did anybody leave ambition to be a lifelong a lifetime
house cleaning?

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, just you know, it didn't seem like it was
my thing. It's honest work.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
I hope it wasn't.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
My manager had been there a long time. Did anybody
leave tips for you?

Speaker 7 (05:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, oh yeah. I love finding little five dogs.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Do you know they were tips?

Speaker 8 (05:56):
Well, because they already checked out, and they leave money
on the counter for you, And sometimes they leave a
nice note that says thank you for folding my sheet.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
I always do that. I always leave a thank you
note in a little bit of cash.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
We don't care Jonas letting you know, man like it
about you. I take care of my my my house, and.

Speaker 8 (06:11):
He stays in bad hotels too, So kudos on you.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
J hell yeah, kudos. I don't see what that's a
kudos kudos for what?

Speaker 6 (06:22):
What? What? What? What's?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
What's wag points?

Speaker 6 (06:24):
What?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
What points do you get from that hotel?

Speaker 6 (06:30):
All right?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
All right?

Speaker 6 (06:32):
I mean everything else?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
You're saving money in your hotel room so you can
tip the housekeeper, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Stupid, and buy nicer food when you go out.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
Yeah, we had a nice steak dinner or stand over
there at the Super eight.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Though.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Who cares where you're sleeping. It's about where you're eating.
That's the most important thing.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Well, I mean you should be able to do both.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Jonas like I'm gonna go to it hepe hotel, Like,
come on, broh, the wrong with that?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Full?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I mean I would say you're full of it? But
I do see what you drive to work now? I
mean it is what it is. I guess I guess
you super starts leaving uh, leaving lorein a tip after
every show and telling her great job on the board today,
and go drive that that truck home.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
I got pay for my juices, I got a I
got a Super eight on wheels is what I got.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's my truck. No you don't what I got. You
got that trip? Trip seven's on? Hey got that trip?
Is that what it was called? One down the street?

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Down the street?

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Yeah, you got that trip seven.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Let me tell you something, pal, all right, that'll make
forty five minutes go by in a hurry that place
if you need it, if you're into that sort of thing.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
But all right, I don't know man, that.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
I don't know about you either. I don't dang okay,
I don't.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
Want to know about me.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
If that's one thing I know about LeVar is I
would create a trip for him if I could. Oh yeah,
but there is a Penn State players not get a
tribute when he.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Gets back to Dallas.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
I know that Jerry Jones made the statement earlier this
week that with the Big Game Micah Parsons return to
Dallas as a member of the Packers that they have
no plans to honor Michaeh Parsons. All right, no hard feelings,
just no plans to honor him in any way, no
tribute or anything like that. And so Michaeh Parsons was
asked about that, and this is his response.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
There's a lot of things I can consider disrespectful throughout
this process, But I wouldn't say the tribute is one
of them.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
You know, there's horror feelings maybe there for them.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
You know, for me, I'm happy where I'm at and
we got a really good football team, So I guess
I can give you my.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
Tribute in a womb. All right?

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Why would they tribute him? He was there four years?
What are we like? What are we talking about here?
It's not like a decade.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
It is interesting, like I've never have they ever done
a tribute for a player just was drafted there and
then traded?

Speaker 7 (08:59):
I don't think so really get it. They didn't win
a Super Bowl, He's.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Not on a farewell tour. I think that that's what
it would come down to. I mean, his body of
work would say you could, you know, maybe acknowledge him.
But how many players that have had really, really fine
careers with one organization end up at another organization and
they don't Like I could see if Bobby Wagner returned

(09:24):
to Seattle, Right, you want to do a tribute of
Bobby Wagner? Put the Okay, Bobby's on his left, right,
That's what I'm saying, And you're on your last lag
of your career, Like, you know, is this the last year?
Maybe this is the last one, Like I could get that,
but he's got so much he's got so much more
career left. And and again, like you said, what what

(09:46):
was the significance of of of I would say this
he could arguably be on the list a short a
very short list of most dominant defenders to ever have
played for the franchise. But I don't even know if that. Yes, Bro, again,

(10:09):
look at that man's stat line. Look at his stat line.
It's I mean, twelve plus sacks in the first what
three years of his career, Like, bruh, that that that's
that's nobody does that one sack. Nobody does that one
sacond four playoff games?

Speaker 6 (10:27):
So what.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
They got one? Winning in those amounts of playoff games.
I mean that's a team thing.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Like So what.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
All I say is, Bro, the dude you can't you
can't discredit him by saying he got one in a
play a playoff game like and that amount of playoff games.
The dude's body of work is his body of work.
It is what it is, whether it was late in
his career or whether it's early. He happened to have
done it early, this early in his career, right out

(10:57):
of the gate. You don't let the those type of
players go. And the circumstances of which he's he's left,
you might think that they might acknowledge him.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I'm not.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
I could understand them doing it for Dak He's had
a much better run in Dallas. But I'm not just
for Cooper Rush.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know when he because he he is he there?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Cooper Rush that Yeah that year you were all over him.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
He's somewhere else now, isn't he? He's not there anymore?
Is he?

Speaker 6 (11:32):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
My favorite part though about that Cooper Rush here where
you're all about him.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
Yeah, we got to play like I'm actually a big Rush.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
Fansh Oh Cooper Rush in Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, he fits, he fits right.
I mean, nothing in the offense would change if Lamar
got hurt in kid.

Speaker 7 (11:57):
Same offense.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I mean I would probably not say the same exact
thing if Cooper Rush got in for for Lamar Jackson.
I'm waiting for Lamar to get back now, just so happens.
Whoever the backup is in Dallas.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
I would be saying, Wow, that might be a better option.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
God, he really is the only back. He's the only
other quarterback there in Baltimore.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Talking about playing with fire.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Oh God, I kind of forgot about that storyline coming
into the season and now we're here, So.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Maybe they should go after Russ Like that would make
all the sense in the world.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah, be kind of Cooper rush good Russ.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, No, you're good with Cooper rush Man. You're good
with him. He's good backup, just like Russ is a
good backup. That's what they have in common.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Uh, they could honor Michael Parsons, wouldn't wouldn't surprise me
or shock me any like. Listen, it didn't end the
way that we wanted, but we had some really good times.
It's a good good, feel good story. Instead, they allow
it to be bulletin board material, allowed to be a
motivating factor. I could guarantee you on one side of it,
you're always gonna have that team say, let's get this

(13:09):
one for Micah, let's get this one for let's get
this form.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
Let's yeah, let's go guys.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
And then they rally around one another. It's not the
same intensity to get at Michael Parsons as a Dallas cowboy.
It's it's just not the team that gets rid of
you is kind of like we got rid of you,
you know, like I try to have a big da.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
I just I don't know why this is a topic
of conversation, like who brought this up about a tribute video?

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like I think what Jerry Jones was asked about it.
He's like no, like you know, no hard feelings. I'm
just not you know.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
What Dweed in Dallas was like, we should have a
tribute video.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Like well again, it's even that, like what do they
accomplish if they want a super Bowl in those four years? Okay,
it might make some sense. They didn't do anything. Like
LeVar just used then example of Bobby Wagner. They won
a super Bowl with him the Legion of Boom, they
went to two like they they have accomplishments, like Dallas
didn't do anything.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
M hmm, I'm with you man, Like there's.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Like like Tom Brady comes back, obviously they're gonna have
a tribute for what he was able to accomplish Tampa,
New England. Whatever, you know, it's like they accomplished something
like what are you attributing to.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
He's got two first time All Pros, four Pro Bowls.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, that's that's like a pat on the back type thing.
That's not a team thing, Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's that's him doing his best for that team. To
win two time All Pro first team in four years.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's great.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
I would be curious to see them.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I would be curious. I would be curious to see
how many players in the league are two time first
team All Pros in the first four years of their career.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
I'd be curious of that. I'd be curious to see
that one.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Four Pro Bowls every like, he's gone to the Pro
Bowl every year, so he's proved and to his team
and to his fan base that he is the elite
of the elite in in the league.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Like I'm not.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
There's dudes and there's dudes in the Hall of Fame
right now that don't have to first team All Pro
bids and four Pro Bowls. Dudes in the in the
in the Pro Hall of Fame, I would look it up.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
I'm not doing a tribute video for a long time ago.
I'm not doing a tribute video for a guy who
was part of a one in three and actually the
main reason they were one and three in the postseason
with one sack. I'm just not in four years. I'm
not doing it.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I'm not going for your You're you're trying to.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
If you want to, If you want to do a
tribute video for Mike, you might as well do one
for Lee.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
I mean, like, like, what are we doing here? Like
it's like this, It's like the again.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
I mean there, it might be different.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
There might be a reason to have, uh a memorial
not not memorial what what we just say, tribute a
tribute video or tribute deal for Lee.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
I mean it could be possible.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, I shows how many years old, five.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
I got news for you. Lee's got one less playoff
sack than Michael Parsons at this point and tells me
everything I needed.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Lee's got more misshows than Michael Carson stuff. I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Don't recall Micah ever missing a game, like just not
showing up like I'll show up. With like three minutes
left in the game.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
LeVar just turned the gun around. It was like no, no,
not now, not shooting me up, just saying so, so yeah,
that's the that's the update there. But it should be
a fun environment. I'm sure everybody will be fired up.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
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Speaker 5 (17:00):
What's that.

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(17:26):
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Speaker 5 (17:35):
And by the way, you know, uh, you know what else,
Louisiana hot sauce is good in clam chowder.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Clam chowder.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
You're a big clowder guy.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Yeah, you're a big clam guy, big time.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah to me. You used to like crafts until what
do you mean.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
You ever try to barbecued baked barbecue?

Speaker 6 (17:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
By the way, if anybody is a thinking about crabs,
tell people you ordered them, you didn't get them. Yeah,
they're a clear difference between the two.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
You don't want someone walking on the conversation staying like, oh,
crabs are my favorite.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Yeah. God, just let me know.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I mean, but people from Maryland would be offended by that.
You know why, because crabs are it, especially the blue ones.
Hook me up with some crabs, man, I mean.

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Speaker 6 (19:09):
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Speaker 5 (19:10):
This is a big topic of discussion over the past
week or so, but they've decided to push back a
little bit. You'll get into that for you right here
on FSR.

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going to hand out an award on this show, and
I believe that this award will draw criticism from members
of this show, so we'll get into that for you
here on Fox Sports Radio. So you remember last week
we were talking about the Tom Brady conflict of interest
stuff and there was the how could we forget Yeah,
just it wouldn't go anywhere. It was all of all

(21:28):
of the rage and the rave last year, last week
in the NFL, and people talking about, well, you know,
he can't do both. And he was seeing in the
booth on Monday night football and he's calling the Bears
Cowboys game and then the Bears are playing the Raiders
this week and all that stuff to go along with it.
And so Tom Brady has a post called do your
job all right? This is he likes to on tom

(21:50):
brady dot com. He writes these periodically, and he just
went through a long list of accomplished principles that he
stands by and went on to say the following. I
love football at its court. It's a game of principle,
and with all the success it has given me, I
feel I have a moral and ethical duty to the sport,

(22:12):
which is why the point where my roles in an
interest is not actually of a point of conflict, despite
what the paranoid and distrustful might believe. Rather, it's a
place from which my ethical duty emerges to grow, evolve
and improve the game that has given me everything. Right,
So he's pushed back on that. He's also pushed back
on a number that was thrown out by Dave Portno.

(22:34):
I believe that he got seventy five million dollars to
be a part of this Saudi flag football extravagance that
they're putting on. He took to social media and said
the following, are we just picking numbers out of a
hat and reporting them while we're breaking news? Elvis is
doing the halftime show, Babe Ruth is going to sign

(22:56):
some autographs for fans. And I also heard Dave prefers
floppy pizza. Who cares about facts?

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Right?

Speaker 5 (23:01):
So he's taped making a point to uh, to push back.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Does he take it?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Was that a subliminal message floppy Pizza? I don't know.
That might have been a shot. You know some people
like perky pizza. Yeah, if you know, that's one way
of putting it.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Yeah, with.

Speaker 7 (23:21):
A couple of things. What was the first thing he's
pushing back on, like people.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
What his conflict of paranoid that he can't do both
that he can't broadcast games and also have integrity.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
When people are paranoid?

Speaker 5 (23:33):
And what Jonas, Oh, that's let me get the exact quote.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Paranoid and scared afraight.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
What did he say? It's pretty strong. I mean, the
paranoid and distrustful, my believe, oh distrust So this.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Is and I'll just kind of pull back the current
a bit. People have always talked about, hey, why don't
you call her name games for NBC, and and I'll
be very transparent, they're been conversations in the past with
NBC about potentially doing that job. And one of the
things that from that network side, because if you looked

(24:10):
at who they've actually put as their analyst for those games,
it's actually been like a rival. It hasn't ever been
an alum, at least not on the TV side of things.
It's been Pat Hayden Right, who's you know, played at USC,
who was an athletic director there after actually he left
the booth became the athletic director, which talk about a

(24:31):
conflict of interest. You know, Doug Flutie, who was obviously
a great quarterback at BC, which is, you know, kind
of a rival. And so there was a thought that
NBC already has the home games for Notre Dame, so
they don't want it to be like a biased broadcast.
Now I think logic would tell you, well, it's it's

(24:51):
obviously more biased because you literally have the same crew
and these same network exclusively doing those home games, so
inherent it's going to be somewhat biased because that crew,
that network knows that those players that university that much better,
So you're kind of talking from that angle. And mostly
everyone's tuning in to NBC to watch Notre Dame. So

(25:16):
you know, it's hard probably for some people to listen
to a Doug Flutie, to listen to even Drew Brees,
who you know played for Purdue and in state rival.
So you know, some of the conversations have always been like, well,
you know, like people have asked before, like, well would
you be able to do it? And or if the
conversation is, well, how would you be unbiased if you're

(25:37):
going to call Notre Dame games? And I've said to him,
I was like, you know, one year I called like
four or five Southern col games. I go So clearly
my bias would lead you to think that I'm not
going to talk favorably about sc But if you listen
to any of those calls, you wouldn't have came away
thinking that. So the reality of it is, there's a

(25:58):
job that you have to do. There's no doubt Tom
Brady can compartmentalize, where as far as what he does
on TV is what he does on TV where he
doesn't have to allow his emotions, his feelings, you know,
his biases to be any part of that. And then
there's the job that he has to do as the
owner of a franchise. So is there some information that

(26:20):
he could use to his advantage? I'm sure you know
how beneficial it is.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
But at the end of the day, like like the
toothpas is out of the bottom of the tube, Like
this has already been approved. It's not going back in. Like,
I don't even know why he feels the need to
address it because there's there's no concern at this point.
It's just all people who want to make something up
to talk about because they see him in the booth,

(26:44):
you know, up there, like he's calling plays for the Raiders.
Which even if that's the case, what are the Raiders
now one and two?

Speaker 7 (26:50):
Right? So, like it's not like that's worked out.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Well what an impact?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, listen, like you said, it is already decided, it's
already happened, So have a problem with it if you don't.
The bottom line is The reason why people have a
problem with it is because they probably already have a
problem with Tom Brady for one reason or another, and

(27:17):
it's probably not even specific to this particular scenario.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
It's Tom Brady. So to me, when I.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Look at it, can you create valid reasoning behind why
this is a conflict of interest and why it doesn't
maybe make sense? Of course you can. But the reality
of it is is that many people are benefiting from

(27:46):
what Tom Brady is representation of. He is a play
caller for or you know what, however you want to
call it for Fox, and he has ownership interests in
the Raiders, so he helps Fox, he helps the Raiders,
he helps the NFL. There's probably countless other major companies

(28:12):
that benefit from him being in the positions that he's in.
And at the end of the day, if it's impacting
the bottom line, they're not worried or concerned about the
other line items that are there. And if people can't
understand that, tough tough beans like so what you can
say what you want to say. If you're media, you

(28:33):
could say what you want to say. If you're peers
or you know people in the industry, you could be
a common fan, doesn't matter, doesn't matter. If you're not
being impacted on the bottom line with what Tom Brady represents,
then maybe you have a strong opinion about what's going

(28:53):
on and it might not be favorable. But to those
who are impacted by it positively, they couldn't be more
astatic that people continue to talk about Tom Brady and
bring him up into different ways, because at the end
of the day, you know what, Tom Brady hasn't done
really anything wrong. He really hasn't done anything wrong. So

(29:15):
you could we can pinpoint certain things that may have
been done when he played. You could say that, oh,
he he, this is a conflict of interest where he
is now. But the bottom line is is Tom Brady
has been a dude that really largely has done everything
the right way, and so it's kind of a it's

(29:35):
like a trivial conversation like what is it? What does
it really matter in the end? What does it matter?

Speaker 5 (29:41):
The other thing, you know, he pushed back on the
report that he's getting seventy five million dollars to be
a part of that Saudi Flag football game or league
whatever it is. It's like, what's the problem if he's
getting seventy five million dollars to go be a part
of a flag football game. Who cares well?

Speaker 6 (30:02):
I mean the way he makes it sound que.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
You may know better because you be around Portnoy, but
it sounds like to me that that ain't what it is,
like whether he's getting I mean he's seventy one or
seventy two, it just sounds like it's not the correct number,
and he's taken advantage of the fact that, oh, incorrect
number was put out there is what I would say
to that.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Look, I haven't talked to Dave about it, so I
don't know where Dave got that information or how.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
He would know that.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
My thing is, I mean, look, they've had as Big
Kat talked about.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
I think they were offered like ten dollars or so
to go just to peer at something for the Saudis,
and they weren't willing to do that. Now, maybe that
was too low. Maybe the would have done it for
a higher number. That's irrelevant to the conversation. Uh, it's
always tough, I feel for most people to accept whatever

(30:57):
offer that is. There's a lot of ties, there's a
lot of feelings and emotions towards nine to eleven who
is behind that, how the sadis could be potentially connected
to that, that is, that is always a part of
the conversation for most people who get involved in these
sorts of deals, And for some people they don't believe
there's an issue, or they don't have a conflict in

(31:19):
their mind, or for some people it feels like the
price that they're paid for it eliminates whatever conflicts in
their mind because it's too good of an opportunity to
pass up on. So there's a lot of sensitivity to
you know, this specific you know, Saudi flag football deal,
and kind of curious to how much he is being compensated.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
But I don't know the number.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
I just know that for most people, they feel one
way or another about it. It's a very polarizing topic.
They're and they're not going to change, like it doesn't
matter how much. More like the Live Tour, for example,
continues to you know, find its way into different events
in the US and and kind of partnering with different
TV partners. People are just gonna view it a certain

(32:05):
way and there and they're not gonna change their feelings
about that. And that's the right. So I think that
the tough part when I when I heard like he
was a part of it, I was thinking in my head, ooh,
like you know Tom Well, because Tom Brady is a
polarizing figure because of his success. To me, he's never
polarizing because of who he is as a man, Like

(32:26):
I think he always tries to do the right thing.
He preaches to do the right thing. He preaches from
his perspective, his experience about what he believes is right.
It might come off in a way that it's tough
to hear. You know, he might give you some hard
messages or some hard truths, but he himself is not
polarizing and matters outside of of really outside of that stuff.

(32:48):
This is this is something when you get involved in this,
it's it's a bit more. Or there's people who again
there are they could be a big Tom Brady fan,
but how their life was impacted by Nida A life
and what their beliefs are behind that then leads them
down a path of being like I can't support that. Yeah,
And that's just and that's just how people feelt.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Pete Davidson, the comedian, is touring and one of his
stops is he's going to be in Saudi Arabia. His
dad was a firefighter killed at nine to eleven. Like,
everybody's got decisions to make, everybody's got choices to make.
I just I don't I don't understand. I guess I
understand it, but I'm I'm not into the whole stand

(33:29):
in the background and criticize Tom Brady because he's taken
Saudi money quote unquote to go play flag football. If
that's what he decides to do, that's what he decides
to do, if he wants to call games, and if
he wants to, you know, be owner of the Raider.
Like I just to Levar's original point, I think what
a lot of this comes down to is that it's
Tom Brady, and you either had a preconceived critique of

(33:53):
the guy you didn't like his time with the Patriots,
whatever it is, he's going to draw criticism, right or
no matter what he does. I just think I think
that's how this works with him, and he's judged differently
based on all that.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
So Tom Brady, Yeah, I'll take that judgment, no kidd,
And I'm a laugh at y'all while I take that
judgment because.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
I'm Tom Brady.

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(36:44):
sliced and yeah, I don't know. I don't know why
you get to criticize the guy. You know, he's had
a great week. Man against that vaunted Cowboys defense the week.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
Let me tell you, he's just the man. He's got
problems like you Jonas.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
No, I don't, Yes, you do.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I don't have no problems like Jonas. Jonas's problems are unfixable.
Dang all the way.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
He did great, He did great last week. I mean,
we'll see if he can string it together. I mean
that's honestly, what Ben Jonson's everyone looking for is well,
every week, you gotta let it all hang out, you know,
but he's got to figure out a way of maintaining it.

Speaker 7 (37:33):
See if he could be consistent with it.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Yeah, I mean yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Like every week you're with a new head coach. As
a quarterback, it kind of feel like a bit of
a tryout because he's trying to prove himself. You know,
he's trying to as you would say, he's trying to
speak with his chest. You know, Sam, puff that chest out.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
If you're going to say it, you better say it
all the way. With your chest like all the way.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
But how about the fact that you know Ben Johnson
came in there and was like, there's some bad habits here.
We're gonna nip it in the bud and we're gonna
we're gonna get this guy to play at the right
the right way of the position, and he's gonna go
out there, he's going to perform well.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Okay, But in your gut, in your gut, do you
believe that he's he's able to make these changes?

Speaker 7 (38:21):
Like, do you feel like he's made the changes he
needs to make so far?

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Yeah, Jonas answer that one.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Jonas understand.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
I mean, listen, you do have a point, all right,
you do?

Speaker 6 (38:35):
What's the point?

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Do you have a point there? But I feel like
you're only as good as your last performance. And uh
And hopefully he can he can come in strong in
Vegas's upcoming weekend.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
That was so weak. You came so weak, bro? Whoa
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