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September 30, 2025 40 mins

The guys discuss Eagles HC Nick Sirianni’s response after WR AJ Brown posted a passive aggressive tweet on social media, Lane Kiffin’s troll job after Ole Miss defeated LSU, some Heisman hopefuls & MORE!  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Jesus, really I like it.

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It's just such out of the draw. It should start
right here at the punch.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, that's that's probably true. But it gets there eventually,
you know.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Just like var it's gonna get here eventually.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Today's Tuesday, right, the game was on Saturday. That doesn't
make any sense. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, just you know, it's listen, man, you know it's
it's stay called.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
It's difficult to get in and out of there. You
know again, I've been there. I understand the difficulties of it.
Never had a problem get to fight, never like granted
we had earlier games, but like that day that that
next day that it was never an issue.

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and by the way ESPN, you could stop showing the
Tyreek kill injury at any point, like you could just
go ahead and skip past that, like we can. We
all understand what happened. It was gruesome.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
It was gross, like little eggs and bacon and let's
completely dislocated knee. No, that's not going down well with
your morning CONFA.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Also, Lurana told me during the break she had a question.
She thought that A that the injury was better than
if he had broken his leg, and I told her that, no,
there's a lot more going on.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I just thought it would take longer to actually fuse
the bone back together than it would be to put
your knee back into place and let your you know,
tendons titan.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Oh, okay, so a couple of things here. One ligaments,
not tendons, and those don't reattach on their own, so
you have to have someone surgically go in and reattach
the ligaments. So that's not like a bone where they
fuse or grow back together. I believe it takes bones,
what six weeks something like that to be able to
kind of fuse or heal back together. Uh, it will

(03:25):
take him easily a year to recover from this. I mean,
this is a like September of twenty twenty five, maybe
the end of next season. Wow, and look, and he'll
come back before then. I'm just saying he's not gonna
be one hundred percent. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Probably it's gonna take him a while, probably ever again,
and that that's.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Well yeah, I mean that's that's a given. But I'm saying, like,
whatever the new normal is, whatever his new one percent is,
it's it's not gonna be until twenty twenty seven. Do you,
honestly do.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
You think he's played his last game as a Dolphin?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know, it's an interesting question. He talked about retiring
too early, didn't he. Yeah, Like now that might have
changed given some of his off the field things going
on and expenses. But he's the one that had like
mentioned that where he's like, ah, when I get to
like thirty or thirty one, I want to retire. It's like, well,
here we are, and you've got a gruesome injury that

(04:26):
maybe makes the case for you know, we'll see what
you look like coming back. But I don't know. I
mean it it's hard to think that they'll be able
to move on from him. Given he's coming back from injury,
you know, he'd have to show that he's able to
be somewhat similar to what he once was, you know, otherwise,

(04:47):
why would you take on that contract. He's still in
their contract.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, it's gonna be a long roadback for Tyreek Hill.
And again, now, if you're just tuning in the news earlier,
Adam Schefter reporting not only did he dislocate his knee
Tyreek Hill after the gruesome injury last night, but also
tore multiple ligaments, including his ACL. So obviously year done,
could be next year done. We'll see what happens career wise.

(05:12):
But that's the that's the latest on the Tyreek killing ten.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
He's free in twenty twenty seven, so that's that's what
makes it kind of a big deal. I'd have to
look back in the details of his contract a little
bit deeper to see how much was guaranteed for injuries.
But man, that is that is a tough deal. It
really is, especially considering you know, they were I felt

(05:38):
like this could have been a jumping off point for
the Dolphins. They looked good last night. Now that I
could have been just how bad the Jets look.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
But they look good yeah, and now they're going to
be a man down obviously for the remainder of the year.
And and now we see whether or not they can
go on a heat or without him. But and look, yeah,
they were as you mentioned earlier, Mike McDaniel was getting
flashy night. It's like he's got the uh, you know,
he's got the sweet shades on.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
You look like you could have gone directly to the club,
like from the game, went right to the club.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, he's so you know, good for Mike McDaniel. It's
a feel good moment. He's probably thinking to himself, you
know what, if I'm gonna get canned, I'm going out
the way I want to go out. You know, I'm
gonna look good and I'm gonna have some razzle dazzle
and we're gonna do it in prime time for the
you know, for as long as I'm head coach in Miami.
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The Crown is yours speaking to wide receivers. AJ Brown
took the passive aggressive approach on social media following his
lack of involvement in the Eagles win over the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers on Sunday, and so, of course Nick Sirianni,

(06:54):
the head coach, was asked about it by the media yesterday.
Let's take a listen. Is it your understanding that that
Aj still wants to be here?

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, obviously Aj is very important to this football team.
I know he wants to contribute and uh, you know,
do the things that he's capable of doing. And yeah,
I mean so it again, he wants to contribute into
into these wins and and he's had a couple of
games where he hasn't been able to for different reasons

(07:23):
of why we haven't in these games. So I question
nothing about his desire to play great football, his desire
of being a good teammate, his desire to be here.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Uh So that was Nick Sirianni talking about a J.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Brown.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Who Yeah, a lot there on that one. That was
a lot of a lot of coach speak.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's like when does the when does the passive aggressive
social media stuff ever work? Like? When does it when
does it ever, I don't that's part I don't understand
about this.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
It never it's more of a way of venting or frustration.
I don't think it's about trying to get a message
out there. I think it's a way of how some
of these young guys vent, you know, they want to
take to something and they feel like if they vent
like that, there's enough people out there who will agree, right,
Guys who have them on the fantasy team, Guys who
are Eagles fans, are big aj Brown fans, and they'll
just say like, yeah, I'm with you, man, Like you know,

(08:15):
then you gets you the ball they need to do better.
It's like all right, Like the Eagles are a team
that's trying to repeat and they'll need him at certain moments.
This past week's game, they didn't need him, you know,
it's just kind of how it worked out. They didn't
even him more Devonte Smith. But there will be times
when they need it and Jalen hurts in this passing.
This offense is showcase that it can do that. Now,

(08:37):
you know, with Patula taking over as their offense coordinator,
maybe that's the concern is they feel like there's a
disconnect with the coordinator and are disconnect with Nick Sirianni
because you know, he's an offensive mine. He's probably a
part of the game planning that might play a Porsche
or role in all of this. But that's that's how
it works with receivers in the NFL. Just you know,
it's it's a roller coaster ride. You know, it's hard

(08:59):
to keep him happy, man, it really is.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I mean, how did you deal with it? Like, I mean,
how do you like if you got some guy in
your ear the entire time? Hey man, why can I
get the ball?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Hey man? Why can it?

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Like?

Speaker 4 (09:09):
And you know I didn't have kids then, but it's
very similar. It's very similar to how you handle kids,
in my opinion. You know, you try to to build
them up. You're trying to make sure they still stay engaged,
make sure they still stay as part of it, and
understanding how important their job is, their role is. But

(09:30):
you're you're really kind of like trying to just constantly
kind of reaffirm how good they are, reaffirm that you know,
we need you and all that kind of stuff. You know, hey,
they're taking you away, but we'll try to come up
with something and whatever else and you're kind of just
pushing it to like the next week, because there's some
game plans where you know a guy's not gonna get
the ball as much. I mean, I remember, whether I

(09:52):
was the starter or even as a backup, we would
always joke that, like we'd remind the starter, Hey, make
sure you throw a bunch to so and so in
the walk through. Like in the walkthrough, we throw to
a guy that not a part, not a part of
the read, not a part of the read. Like it's
literally running for the love of the game, And you

(10:12):
would throw to him in a walk through because you
would want to make sure he ran that route hard
thinking he's gonna get the football, and be making sure
that he realizes like, oh yeah, like I'm a part
of this game plan, I'm in this thing. Like very often,
like that was you were always trying to feed your
your one or two top targets and a walk through,
even if they weren't the first or second read in

(10:33):
the progression.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
It's just like that's yeah, that's that's a lot. I
don't know, man, I don't get if I were if
aj Brown had a problem, why not just go talk
to the people who can actually do something about it.
Nobody on X can do anything about it, Like they cannot.
They cannot get you the ball more, they cannot get
you more involved. Why not just talk to I don't know,

(10:57):
the quarterback, talk to Nick Siri, talk through the offensive coordinator.
DeVante Smith has never done this, but Aj Brown has
done it multiple times now, Like it happened last year,
they had to, you know, do some sort of a
high five on the sideline and and talk about it
because AJ Brown was frustrated. And now, you know, a
couple of games into the season, he's frustrated again. He's

(11:18):
taken it out on social media. He's under contract, they're
not going to trade him. It's not like he's not
going to be in Philadelphia. I just don't understand what
this accomplishes, Like it just adds more conversation surrounding a team,
as you mentioned, that's trying to repeat.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
And they're winning games, like I.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Canna understand if they were losing and he's like, hey,
get me involved with good one. They're winning games. Whether
anybody likes it, Drew Brees or anybody that doesn't like
the ugly look of the Eagles offense, it's working. They're
winning all these games I've won twenty of their last
twenty one. I just don't understand why this approach, why
he would think this would work. That's the part I

(11:56):
don't get.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
I really, I have no idea. It's like, guys who
are where you're like trying to talk to your way
through social media. You know. It's like, you know, instead
of just talking to her face to face, you're like
sending her different videos or different posts. You're like, yeah,
this is the message of trying to get get through
to you. You know, maybe we'd better received if someone
else says it right. I don't have no idea, but

(12:18):
that's the day and age we live in. People try
to talk to the media, they try to talk through
social media.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
What was the passive aggressive approach before social media when
you were in the league, Like, how would how would
somebody do it passive aggressively like this before they took
to social media?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Like what could they?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I don't know. I mean they probably do something where
they showed up late.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I don't know, it's show up late and be like, well,
what does the matter of a mom time?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I can't get the ball anyways?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, again, it's like tantrums, like you, it's like handling kids,
like you know, it's I didn't realize that at the
time because I didn't have any, but that's like what
it's like. You're like, oh, I have to deal with
this person being immature again. And then that's ultimately what
it boils down to, like it's not a mature response
to the situation. You're in a professional atmosphere. Then instead

(13:08):
of talking to your boss or talking to your work associate,
you're going on social media, like name any other corporation
where someone does that, where that's gonna work out well
or it's healthy. Right, there's there's nowhere. There's nowhere. It's
like if you and I started just tweeting and putting
stuff on social media about Scott Shapiro, it's like, Scott,
just be like, dude, why don't you text me or
call me? You know, like what are you doing? So yeah,

(13:30):
it's it's it's like having kids, like that's that's what
it's like, and you're trying your best to be able
to make sure everything's copasetic. You know, maybe you take
them out to a nice meal. That's like, you know,
give them my infant a bottle. You know, you're trying
to make sure that if they're fed, their diapers, change
the whole thing. Like it's it's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, exact, give them a toy to play with, you know,
and they.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Like, go buy them something, Go buy them something. You know, Hey,
got you got you this, Now you like this.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
By the way, you're not you're not one of those
parents who just hands them an iPad or an iPhone
and then and then kind of.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Lets it be right.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
That's a I feel like that's a go to way
too often. Not a fan of it, right.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Just not a uh yeah, well, I mean here's what
I say this is you have one. Once you get
the two that there's you'll learn more about yourself and
about parenting because like having one, it is really easy
compared to then once you go to two and then
more than that. So I would say that I would
caution you judging other parenting, no judging, because once they

(14:33):
have once they have more, it becomes much more difficult
of a task. So there is a time and place
for an iPad or iPhone. It all depends on what
that circumstance provides. But again, you need to have more
than one before you can chime in on this.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
There's there's no judging at all, you know, like there's
this is not not judging. I'm just letting people know, like,
you know, be present. You know, if you're not a
present parent, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Hundred percent. But I'm also have more kids.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well listen, man, that's a whole conversation for a whole
nother time. Like our four, our four, we could have
that conversation. But you know, I mean, don't bring up
things if you don't like talking about it. I'm just
it was just letting you know, like, hey, you're not
one of those people.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
You don't strike me as one of those people.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
But I also don't judge parents when they do. And
I also realize, especially you know, we have five, there
is a time and place where that's going to be
something you want to do. You've got when you've got
a two and a half year old and you're at dinner,
there's times where like that guy is going to be
an absolute menace. You've know, for the betterment of everyone
around us, Like we might let them watch Paul Patrol
while while we're at dinner somewhere.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
You've never judged people and how they handle their kids.
While on a plane. You've never talked about them on
the show.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
No, never, Why no, No, I'm saying that, Like I
don't really like I would judge them not doing something.
If they're just sitting there on their own phone and
they're not helping with the kids, I judge that, But
I wouldn't judge them for like, you know, hey, like
if you've been through it before, like you want to
make sure you have a bottle, you're feeding them on
the way up, feed them on the way down, that
sort of thing, you know. But I'm more understanding of

(16:10):
it because I've been through it, Like my kid's been
that kid before.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
So oh yeah, that's the worst. I think.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Albert Breer made the point one time we had him on.
He said, once you have a kid on a plane
that acts out, you start to really feel for the
parents that are going through it when you're there.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, because there's nothing you can really do right.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Like, it's awful.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's an awful situation, it really is.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I still remember the story you told on the air
that you and Alicia had no answers and you're looking
at each other, and I forget who I think it was.
Might it might have been the oldest who was like
licking the floor of the plane or something like that.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, we just had We just had her. At that point.
We were going to a wedding in Cincinnati, and I
was I was the best man in the wedding.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
And.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
It's just a long story like still waiting for the
invite in the mail kind of thing, and so we're
like getting in. Our flight was delayed, there's a bunch
of weather, and on our on our connecting flight from
Atlanta to Cincinnati, which is a very short flight, our
eldest acted at like nothing I'd ever seen before. I
thought she was possessed. Like I thought we were going

(17:18):
to go to the church, We're gonna do the wedding,
and I was gonna have the priest do like an
extracism or something. It was unbelievable. She was like crawling
on the floor in the seat in front of her,
like crying, hysterically grabbing people's feet like just probably biting them.
I mean, it was just it was the grossest thing
I've ever witnessed. And she was inconsolable, and it was

(17:39):
it's just because we had it was during her nap time,
so right when we got in went to go grab
the rental car. There's no one working out the rental
car place like. It could not have been a worse
set of circumstances, and so we just basically took my
wife missed the wedding. They went back to the hotel,
they napped. I rushed to the UH. I rushed the church,
got there just in time, soaking wet, like an idiot

(18:02):
standing up there as the best man. So it was.
It was an absolute disaster. I've never had a worse
flat experience. And even the people around we are very apologetic.

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about twenty minutes from now bad news gets worse for
one preseason Super Bowl candidate and contender in the NFL.
We'll get into that for you here again about we'll
call it a little over fifteen minutes from now here
on FSR. So, the conversation in college football that we

(20:16):
had yesterday was mostly about it was so Lebar could
mourn the Penn State loss. I feel like we spent
a lot of.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Time on that.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
No need to go any further into that, but all
in all, that was a tremendous weekend of college football.
And I know that you were in Champagne for the
Illinois USC game.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Which, by the way, I got to.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Ask Dean Blandino about that fumble before halftime. I don't
get it. I don't know what they saw on the
replay that would lead them to not overturn a call.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Right, I mean, here's well, we'll talk to him in
a bit. But here's part of my issue with it.
I don't think Dean, we'll admit this, but some of
those plays where it looks like it could have been
a turnover, because of the ability to use replay, they
will let it stand and then they can rely on

(21:10):
replay to then overturn it. But the problem with that
is and and they're using their language this year saying
that it has to be upheld, I meaning that's that's
that's just saying they had enough video evidence to either
uphold the call or overturn the call. So that's the
new new vernacular they're using for that. And the issue
with that is, you know, you're relying on basically and

(21:34):
hoping that there's enough angle so you can see it.
And in that particular case, I thought it was pretty
definitive that he was down. Like I thought they had
one good angle of it where you're like, all right,
he's down. I think that was somewhat clearer to me.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I'm like, all right, man, Like whatever you get. It's
like somebody's lying right to your face. You and them
both know they're lying, and they're still just going to
go through with it. It's like, okay, all right, whatever,
this is your thing, that's fine, go ahead, you take it.
But I looked at that game and if there's that fumble,
there was the other Illinois fumble trying you know, when
it looked like they were about to score.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
That was critical.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Other than that, I feel like Illinois kind of controlled
that game, Like I.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Feel it should have been by fourteen more points.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, like that.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
And by the way, USC I believe got uh scores
off of both definitely the second one. I can't remember
the first one or not. Yeah, obviously because they ended
up going in halftime, right, No.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
They kicked a field goal though, that's why they did
kick a field goal, So it's ten turnovers. Yeah, and
then and then they scored the go ahead touchdown off
that other fumble, and then right and then Old Illinois
got the ball back and kicked the field goal to
win it. But the scene was crazy there, like that's
that's a couple of times. I don't know how often
you guys have been to Champagne, but that's a couple
of times, like those first time visits to those places.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Look like they're incredible.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, they they and that fan base looks like it's
like ready to go every but he's you know, ripping
beers having a good time. The barstool guys are out there,
so that was a fun watch. The other thing as well, too,
the Alabama dominance over Kirby Smart is really fascinating because
Kirby Smart's been on a heater over the past few

(23:16):
years in college football to where they've they've put together
one of the great runs we've seen in a long time.
What is it about Alabama that just seemingly has his number?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Like, what what is that?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I know, Alabama's got great players, and for all the
people that said Kaylin de Bor should be fired after
the first week, that conversation feels a little different now,
But what is it about Alabama's dominance over Kirby Smart.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's it's strange. I would have said in the past,
it was you know Saban and and really his you know,
one of his understudies who struggled to kind of figure
that out. Like I think during the Saban era for
the most part, now now towards the end, Kirby got
the better of save or at least it was more
at the top than you'd say Alabama was. But I

(24:04):
think there was a period of time where Alabama just
had more talent. They're better in the trenches, and it
was a saving coach team, you know, so they weren't
going to beat themselves. But this is a completely different
different story. Georgia's struggled to me offensively, And I'm not
sure what went into the Carson Beck decision to go

(24:25):
to Miami, if it was purely about money or they
liked Gunner stocked in better. Gunner's just not the same
caliber of thrower as Carson Beck, and so whoever made
that decision, whoever thought that was in the best interests
of Georgia, they legitimately put their national champ hopes kind
of threw it up in the air, and really, really,
I think it hurts them because they can't compete against

(24:49):
a team like Alabama that has some of that offensive
creativity saw from Debor but also more than that, a
guy who is gonna throw it around like Ty Simpson.
I mean, that's what you're seeing is when you've got
a court back who can attack the field vertically, you're
a dangerous team if you can combine that with a
running game. And I thought Alabama's offensive line was the
more physical of the two. That they kind of had

(25:09):
their way with George up front. Georgia struggled to get
pressure too. That's been another odd thing for for all
that you know, we talked about Kirby Smart and their defense,
and you know how talented their defenders are, They're struggling
to be able to get pressure without bringing pressure and
that's a bad spot to be in. So I don't
know that i'd say it's like an Alabama thing with
Kirby Smart. This this felt different. This felt like more

(25:30):
of a proving moment and more about Kidlyn to Bourne,
him trying to put a stamp on You know what
this is going to look like for Alabama moving forward,
It's not going to look like what it looked like
with Nick Saban, where they went through years where there
was very little offense, great defense, a running game and
that's how they won. And then it had started to
evolve when you got some other quarterbacks through there and
more talented wide receiver. But you know, for the most part,

(25:54):
it was, I want to say, a boring style of play,
but it was just different, and I think Kirby started
to eventually, you know, build up to get teams talented
enough to be able to compete with that, But you know,
Stockton struggling that wide receiver group last year struggling drops.
This year they're struggling with drops. It is just a
it's frustrating if you're a Georgia Van because you do
have a ton of talent. You are one of the
top teams in college football. Yet for a game like that,

(26:16):
especially versus Bama, they struggle to be able to consistently
show up.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
By the way, I think ty Simpson is second in
the Heisman odds. Now, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Well, I know Dante Moore's leading. Ty Simson might be
up there. I thought there was someone else I know,
I know saying Jeremiah Smith is still up there. There's
one of the name that's escaping me right now. But
there's he's a part of the conversation. He's done well.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
He's second at Dante Moore, which, by the way, and
I don't want to, you know, take a victory lap
on the show, but I did say last week that
my prediction going into the Penn State Oregon game was
that Dante Moore would be the Heisman favorite after that game. Now,
most of that was just me trying to get a
rise on LeVar, which we try to do every single
day on this show, but as it turns out, it

(27:03):
actually did did come true. He's the current favorite Undraftkings,
followed by Ty Simpson, Jeremiah Smith, and then Carson back
with Fernando Man.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, look at twelve.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
To one, which which he's the other one who I
thought was actually in second. He's been phenomenal this year.
And by the way, going back to the Illinois conversation,
you know, it's so hard to predict things in college
football because you could have a week where I look
at what Illinois looked like on film versus Indiana, and
it was shocking how dominant Indiana was upfront, how dominant

(27:37):
their scheme was versus Illinois, just the way I mean,
Illinois made it seem as if they didn't have any
ability to throw the football down the field. And then
you you know, you go play the USC team at
home a week later, and Illinois number physical team. They're
able to run the football, They're able to create big
players in the passing game. It's like they can do
kind of whatever they wanted. Now, maybe that's more of

(27:59):
an indictment on where Southern Calas and Lincoln rather with
us program. Everyone keeps trying to sell us that they're improved,
they're this, they're that, all right. I mean, they really
hadn't played anyone up until that point, and that was
kind of that first kind of proven moment versus at
least a ranked team. The Michigan State game I think
was a good win for them, but I think Jonathan
Smith would even tell you they're not where they would
like to be yet. So that was like their first

(28:21):
true test. And again the scoreboard and how that game
finished was not indicative of where that game was. Illinois
dominated that game. They issued one of my two touchdowns,
and that's just how drastic things can change from one
week to the next.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
The other game of note, that was really good. I mean,
you know, they tried their hardest at the end to
maybe give LSU a chance, but ole miss winning that
game in that environment. To see Lane kiffen with the
troll job afterwards, uh, you know, looking looking for his
daughter's boyfriend, h saying you know, I'm gonna ask him

(29:00):
at the over, Just that that whole Lane Kiffin is
the perfect present day college football coach, somebody who is
a good coach but gets the whole entertainment aspect of it,
the social media aspect of it. He posted a quote
from Brian Kelly talking about basically, you know, almost guaranteeing

(29:21):
that they were going to win that game on Saturday.
So just to see him and the way that that
program performed to beat Brian Kelly on that stage, that
was awesome. And I don't know what Ole missus outlook
is long term. I don't know if this is a
legitimate national title contender, but Lane Kiffin, that guy's found

(29:43):
a home and it's it's gone of the days when
Al Davis basically you know, threw him under the bus
and kicked him to the curb and then he went
to USC he got fired on the.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Target, didn't fire the tarmac like I mean. That story
was wild. By the way, if you for anyone who
hasn't seen the Lane Kiffin, I think it's an E
sixty story, right, and it's great, it's fantastic, and it
just goes to show you how inept Southern cal has
been as far as their administration. And I have no

(30:12):
problem saying that that's not a bias take because I
went to Notre Dame. You go ask people from Southern
Cal through Lynn Swan to Pat you know, Pat Hayden,
and just looking at that, even Mike Bone like like
the whole thing, it's it's it's been awful, and it's
it's one of the reasons why they are where they
are right now. But I digress that win for Lane

(30:33):
Kiff and even though it was a statement win for them,
I'm not so sure that like it's as big as
we think it is. I think we look at the
ranking of LSU and then that's what makes us feel
like this is a statement game, such a big win.
Some of the storylines, like the whole you know, weeks
dating Lane Kiffin's daughter, that adds to it. The reality
is is I think this LSU team has been over sold.

(30:55):
I just I don't think they're that good. You look
at the win versus clubs, and after we one, we
all thought, oh wow, like this LSU team can win
a national championship. You know, now you're looking at that win,
going well, Clemson's not very good. LSU's still struggling somewhat
defensively but offensively. Garon Nussmeyer's not having this year where
he's taking off like people thought he would, and people

(31:18):
are blaming an injury because he doesn't have as much
zip or pop on his on the football. Maybe that's
the case. I don't know. Aga in only they know
if he's dealing with something. But he's out there and
it doesn't look as good as last year. You know,
he's not being able to hit some of those windows
and make some of those big time throws that had
some of these, you know, draft and talent evaluators looking

(31:40):
at him as potentially the quarterback to be taken first
in next year's draft. They can't run the football. And again,
even though they invested heavily in the transfer portal on defense,
they were the number one transfer portal class. It's improved,
but too only to a certain degree where they can't
beat a team like Ole Miss. So again, good win
for Lane Kiffin, win for Old Miss. I think the

(32:02):
reality of the SEC this year is this, they're just
not that good. They're just they're just not that good.
And I think there's a lot of people who are
afraid to say it because there's been a changing of
the tides, like the Big Ten has overtaken college football
right now. Look at the rankings, three of the top
four teams are Big Ten teams and they should be

(32:23):
like those are those are Ohio State and Oregon are
the two best teams in the country in my opinion.
You know, Miami can can throw into that mix. I'm
curious to how you know they play Florida State this week.
But Penn State is a damn good team too, and
I think Michigan's more on the rise. But the Big
Ten is it's overtaken the SEC, and I think that
is something that people will find. You know, they might

(32:48):
say it's biased because I cover it. I watch tape
on and film on everyone. I'm just telling you right now,
Bama's a great football team. They you know, they're up
there with Old Miss and a few others. But I
don't know that you'll find as many complete teams as
Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Organ By the way, speaking of the Big Ten, why
was Portnoy not with you guys in the stadium again?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
What happened there?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well, that's is that not for I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Well, look, there's been obviously frustration from one particular school
in the Big Ten, and that has then spread to
you know, some others within the conference trying to, you know,
be more unifying in their approach as to how they
entertain But look, Barstools there, they did their show there.

(33:36):
Ye that was different than another school allowed. You know,
we're at Michigan this week. This is going to be
the week that gets really interesting because you know, he
is an alum. I think it'd be a terrible look
now that Barstool College Football show is not going to
an arbor this week, but Dave will be there, and
so whether or not they let him in the stadium,
we'll have to wait and see. But it'd be pretty

(33:57):
tough to sit there and say you're not allowing an
alum to come into the stadium. And also, I don't
I don't feel like Michigan has any issues with going
against the grain for what some of the other Big
ten schools maybe are doing.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I would be shocked if they didn't. I would be
I would be surprised that they didn't based on that.
It's just, yeah, I can't believe it.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Guy.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's gotten to that point to where you know one
guy and I guess, you know, you know, flying a
banner over you know somebody who's you know, somebody's school
or all that. He's probably not the greatest move in
the world. But I'm just surprised that there's the banning
of him, because I just thought it was part of
the part. I thought it was a bit like he
was standing, you know, on a scaffold outside the stadium,

(34:43):
like I didn't I didn't realize that that was.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
No actually, no, no, it wasn't. And look for all
the people out there, I don't want Dave to be
struck by lightning. I do think, though, you shouldn't ask
for other people to take the risk of sitting in
the area where you could be struck by lightning if
you've never experienced being struck by lightning before. So I
just think like if you're like, oh, yeah, you should

(35:06):
put yourself in harm's way, but you're someone who's never
actually like done that, like, hey, yeah, go get surgery.
Have you had it surgery before? The Well no I
have not. Well, okay, it's it's kind of hard to
take advice from someone who says that. So that was
the general point, by the way, and talking to Dave
about his rant on lightning delays, and.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
By the way, if you have been struck by lightning,
you're not here to listen to this anyway.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
So that's not true. That's one hundred percent not true.
He actually looked at the stats because this went down
this winding road of like what percentage of people get
struck by lightning end up dying? I think it's like
ten percent. Really, yeah, it's not as much as you think,
like a.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Direct hit, like a lightning bolt direct hit. I was
always under the impression, how.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Else would you describe getting struck by lightning? Well, because
if you don't get hit, you're not. It's not being
struck by lighting.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
It hits something else. And you know, the current can hit.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
You can jump.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, like there is there is that possibility.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
But I would yeah, well, even if that's the case,
it's still potentially a ten percent chance.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I mean, how about like what is the what are
the percentages? All right, so you've got an update on
the lightning strike.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
Yes, so in the US, roughly twenty people die each
year from the lightning strike out of two hundred and
forty thousand injuries worldwide, So twenty people dyeing each year.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Wow, that's not that's also, I would be willing to guess.
We also have this debate it's mostly men. It's mostly
men who died. I mean all seriousness, I think about that.
I'm not trying to make this like a divisive conversation,
but we're like, well, like, like, how are people getting
struck by lane? We're like, oh, yeah, it's probably just
mostly men. It's either like they're working in an area

(36:37):
that's dangerous, like yeah, something like that, or they're on
a boat in the water. It's it's it's something along
those lines. I would imagine a very very high percentage
are men.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I mean, I mean, who is the golfer who got
struck by lightning a couple of times back in the day.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
And Natief Goosen we looked that up. They call him
the Iceman.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I think there was somebody else too, there is.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Retief Goosen's got like the best story behind it, and
he's actually been struck multiple times.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah what yeah, you're swinging the clubs.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
He's South African. Yeah, he's he's he's been struck actually
multiple times. I've heard the story from his caddy because
I asked the caddy. I said, hey, I was like,
how often does he get people asking about being struck
by lightning? He goes all the time. I go, well,
I'm not gonna ask him about to ask you. So
it's like when we walk up this next fairway, tell
me the whole story. Then, so the caddy kind of
like share the whole thing. It's like he's actually been

(37:30):
struck like two or three times. It's like, not just once.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Tell me there's no way. There's no way a lightning
bolt hits your body. There's no way you're just okay
after that. There's got to be some long term damage
in there somewhere. I just can't imagine.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
I don't know. I watched that guy, but he had
zero fear, like, doesn't get shaky over anything. I think
I think it enhanced him.

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(39:09):
to see how far down the list, the Ravens have
fallen ten to one. The Baltimore Ravens are currently sitting
at ten to one with the Bills the favorite. Bring
up the Ravens because more bad news for them. We
still aren't totally clear on Lamar Jackson's status, whether or
not he's going to be able to go. We do

(39:30):
know that Namdi Matabique is out for the season with
the neck issue, and maybe even longer than that. There's
some thought that that might be career threatening. Roquan Smith
is going to miss some time. It's just not great
all the way around for Baltimore. And so for those
of you that did have the Ravens going to the

(39:50):
Super Bowl before the year, that's that's looking like.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Not a not a great pack.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Are you one of them?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
And the tough part is like people have to you know,
injuries play a huge, huge role in all this, and
you feel lucky, like if you your team to win
a Super Bowl has to get lucky. And that's not
taking anything away from what the accomplished or what Philly
accomplished last year, for example, it's just the reality of it.
Most rosters aren't built to withstand so many injuries to
be able to overcome that. Philly might be the exception,

(40:21):
but still, you know, staying healthy and being able to
avoid any of that is a huge piece of being
able to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, so not great for the Ravens, but what's great
for you is that we got another hour to play
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