June 12, 2024 • 38 mins
Is it a make or break year for Deshaun Watson? Bill O’Brien regrets taking on the GM role in Houston. Plus, Busch Lattes, Beethoven and “The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.”
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of people have chimed in on social media. Apparently bush
lattes are just bush lights. It's like slang for uh
what you call them. That's like their their thing or whatever,
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you know, like, uh, you know, Brady calls miller LTEs nicolaches.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Apparently it's different though, because everyone calls miller lights nicolaches.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know, you're the first person I heard use that
term for real. Yeah, huh so. And also throat burner,
you were big. That was one you told me as
well too throughout.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That's not true. I never What are some of the
other words.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Liver, lube, liver, yeah, that's one, ben, the elbow, lick,
the lid.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, yeah, not as well versed in the cheesy course
games us for drinking.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So that's like commonti vernacular. What do you mean, like everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Uses those The best the best thing you've ever said,
And I actually was talking to my sister about something
she does in tiaror decorating, was crap closet calling referring
to a bathroom or toilet is a crap closet is
quite possibly the best you've come up with at this
point because I will try to, like I go on
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her Instagram page and I will comment below when she's
trying to be professional and she's trying to, you know,
talk about this different project she does, Like my sister
is extremely talented, like extremely like ridiculously talented at what
she does for a Tierra decorating, and then you'll see
this this jackass me just comment like, oh I crop
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dust in that room or something along the lines, like
lower down on her page where there's like all these
other people who are making like design comments or compliments
to her or trying to ask about, hey, who do
you use for this? So what you use for this?
And then you know, like just to me, it is
such an immature thing that I do. But that's like
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a sister brother, you know, a sibling deal, right that
like never ends. I could be sixty years old and
she's still doing this and I'm still doing that sort.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I think I came up with it because I heard
somebody use the term water closet, and it doesn't make
sense to me because when I think of a bathroom, yeah,
like that's a term for a bathroom. And when I
think of a when I think of a bathroom. I
don't think about the water. I think about what you're
doing in the bathroom. So crap closet just seemed better
than water closet so far.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Have you ever heard of crap closet before?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
No, it's so dumb, it really is. Like I think
it's like some people remind me of stuff that we
say on the show, and I go, how do we
have a gab.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You say on this show?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Whatever happened to la quos? Like, whatever happened to that account?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That I get shut down because I don't know that
we could probably keep that. Uh well, let me see
that's uh, that's will float around out there, what you're
talking about. I think I believe do we have Yeah,
it's still uh I think so. I think we're still
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looking uh yeah, well maybe not. I don't know. We'll
full figure it out. But yeah, that was a show
account that we had that we were you know, it
started up the quarks, you know, but it felt like
that could get us in some trouble at some point.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That was supposed to be our show name right, Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I think there was no No, it's just quotes for
the show.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh yeah, efforting. We will, We'll try and figure that out. Also,
I'd like to to point out I made a mistake.
I bought store brand coffee. It was seven ninety nine
a bag. It's rough, so you get you paying for
quality does count sometimes, and I'm not going to air
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out the store. But yeah, not a not a good idea.
This is this is worse than the coffee we have
over than the kitchen there, and that's pretty bad. So
we were often running here an hour two of the program.
Let's talk about somebody who's got everything figured out and altogether.
Levar's got Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson enters this year with
the Cleveland Browns and he's he's got a lot to prove.
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And apparently he's seen some of the some of the
rankings on him. Chris Simms, I believe, had him twenty
fourth amongst starting quarterbacks in the NFL. So Deshaun Watson
has seen those rankings, He's heard that stuff, but he's
not bothered. He thinks it actually means it's a good thing.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Let's take a listen, each and every fan, each and
every media person, you know, they want to see me
at that level that I o'kay what I'm doing. So
that's the standard, and so I got to make seall
hold myself to it. So it's not a bad thing.
It's not anything like that. Don't I don't get involved
with you know, people trying to rake me some you know,
places where you know they think I'm at the bottom
of the list. You know, it is what it is.
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If I was at the bottom, the one would talk
about me. So obviously, if if anyone is talking about
me and continue to talk about me, then I must
be pretty good.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'm good. Or I mean, technically he isn't the bottom
the list, which is why it was asked.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Or you're making a hell of a lot of money
being at the bottom of the list, or.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
People are talking about you because you're into weird stuff.
I don't know, there's other reasons why people have talked
about him. So he started twelve games since twenty twenty
like kind of that, yeah, wow, kind of a problem.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I mean, I mean, I knew he's messed toime. I
know it was that few. Yeah, but when you put
it that way, it does sound a little bit ridiculous.
I mean, like again that obviously we're beating a dead horse.
Everyone knows the history of what's happened. But I don't
think if we go ten years from now, like this
will be a case study in some NBA class on
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I mean, probably how this doesn't work out, but of
what not to do. I mean, you gave a guy
after not playing for a year, with double digit allegations
lawsuits against him, after not playing two hundred and thirty
fully guaranteed million dollars, Like, in what world does that happen?
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And then even since then, to your point, he's played what.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Twelve games I started?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, started twelve games?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I mean at some point again, people who try to
make this season seem like it's a make or break
year for Deshaun Watson obviously don't understand the financial obligation
the Browns are under with him. This is not a
make or break year. Next year is not a make
or break year unless they literally want to take on
the greatest dead cap hit in the history of the
NFL and probably for the foreseeable future the next two
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to three decades. There is no way in my mind
this next year or even I guess you could maybe
say the following, but it's not until three years from
now where you could say it's a make or break
year because the financial obligation the Browns are under with
Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't even I say make or break in a
different way. And I think that make or break year
for him has already passed.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
He's broken.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
What what people in my estimation that paid him the
money that they they paid him, he hasn't lived up
to it. And and listen, it's guaranteed money. He hasn't
played very much, and it's it's it's broken I and
I don't I don't see it changing. It's when you're that,
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when you've been removed for as long as he has been,
It's it's competitive enough. It's like, I don't know the
percentage you might know a Q. I don't know the
percentage of guys that are able to make it into
the league as a quarterback and and further as a
starting quarterback. It's a very, very, very minute percentage. To
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think that you're actually able to be away from the
game as long as he has been and played as
sparingly as he has played, to think that he's just
going to come back and set the world on fire.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Can he come back and be maybe a formidable quarterback,
a serviceable starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So there's some aspects of it where at the time
that he's played, you've seen some glimmers of the possibilities
of hope for him to be a franchise quarterback somewhat like.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
He was when he was in Houston.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
But I think that that's a pipe dream to think
that this guy is going to be an elite QB
in the National Football League. So make or break, I mean,
he's getting paid. If we're saying make or break, he'll
be on the roster, I guess at that. But if
we're talking him as a player and what he's going
to accomplish as a player, I just find that to
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be it's hard to convince me myself that he's going
to be like all of a sudden, all of this
time he's missed, that he's going to come back and
set the world on fire. I don't see it. I
don't see it happening.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Look, I understand like they they made the move because
at one time he was, you know, one of the
top as far as if you were looking at if
you were going to build your franchise around a quarterback,
he would be the guy. He would be one of
the guys like your top five lists, Like he'd be
a young guy.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Not necessarily sure I would go down that road. Well no,
but I'm saying he has some good seasons.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So he's twenty eighteen to twenty twenty years, you'd be
hard pressed not to to put him in that category.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It was really promised.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
I think he had some statistical probably passed with five
thousand yards in twenty twenty. I get it say it
was a bad season for them, but I mean, you
can't take that away from him, and that's but that's
the hard part is is like can he ever be
that player that he once was when he went to
three Pro Bowls?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
By the way, the stats are so of the point
zero one percent they get drafted. I believe this is
coming from high school, right, So high school football players
point zero one percent, I believe, because the stats are
like seven point three go on to play in college.
At some point of that the top one point six
percent go on to have a shot of that point
zero one percent get drafted, and then all those trafficks,
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only thirty percent will ever make an NFL roster.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Of the point zero percent of the point zero one.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, so then if you break it down positionally, it's
obviously even fewer.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
That's why that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's why I didn't try for the NFL, because I
was like, you know what, these numbers just aren't fair.
It's too skewed. I'm just not even gonna participate.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You can't convince me of those numbers that a guy
that hasn't played as much as he has not played
for as long as he has not played for can
just come back into a league where those percentages are
so minute and be a guy. It should already, if
we're being honest, there should already been a guy that
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was in place that and I mean guy Lee, Like
look at Flacco, look at what he did. They put
a guy in place that that was serviceable enough to
get them to where he got them to.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Joe Flacco and Baker Mayfield have been better Browns quarterbacks
and Deshaun Watson and neither's there, both of them.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And to that point, Baker Mayfield went and did more
in Tampa Bay. You got rid of them for this
ginormous contract, which you wouldn't have had to pay Baker
Mayfield as much as you paid Deshaun Watson and Deshaun
I mean Baker Mayfield has produced more during the course
of this period of time of the switch up than
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what than what Deshaun Watson has has generated.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Remember, at the time, wasn't wasn't the contract the numbers
being thrown out with Baker Mayfield going to that funny
it was. Yeah, it was like like a four year,
four year, hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I bet you they wish they would have did it now.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I bet you they wish they would have tackled
that nut now versus the one they gave to Deshaun Watt. Wait,
let me take that back pause. I bet you they
would have tackled that contract rather than the one that
they did was Shaw Watson. You gotta be careful in
your wording these days with certain people, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Do you think that Joe, because Joe Flacco said that
he did want to come back like he loved Cleveland,
do you think part of the reason he wasn't brought
back is because they were maybe concerned that maybe it
would be a little bit awkward that Deshaun Watson would
feel a certain kind of way that that guy who
did all of that with your guys and your roster,
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because you couldn't like that maybe they were on the
field he had like maybe there's a little bit of
awkwardness behind that because they brought in Jameis Winston and
you've already heard Mary Kay Cabotts say they're not going
to be hesitant if Deshaun comes out and he struggles
early on, They're not going to be hesitant to go
to Jameis Winston at some point.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Dude, all I know is I still can't believe they've
got Jamis as a backup again. I can't reiterate that
enough that that's like he should be starting somewhere. The
fact that he's a backup in Cleveland. I understand, it's
a great situation. You know, Watson's had injury issues, so
all those things line up for being in a good
situation to go in and succeed and win. But I
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just you can't tell me that he couldn't be on
another roster right now, starting, or at least competing for
a starting job. That's tough for that's.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
To Zach Wilson is starting in competing for.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Denver in Denver, Las Vegas, Like, come on, man, it's
that's crazy to me. People people might take issue with
the I don't want to criticize me for saying that.
I'm just saying that Jameis Winston has too much ability
to be sitting as a backup. That makes no sense
to me right now.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I would love to see an over under a number
of starts Jameis Winston gets this.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Year versus Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well, just period, because I would love to see it
versus Deshaun Watson. How many starts? If you had the
guests right now, how many games will Deshaun Watson start
for the Cleveland Browns versus Jamis Winston?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
What would you say?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I think he starts more than Jamis, but I'll put no,
I don't. I think I think Deshaun Watson starts less
than twelve games this year.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't. I think it starts over twelve. And I
think he has a big year. I think I think
Cleveland's gonna be a really, really good team this year.
I'm telling you, I've looked at the roster like it's.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I've heard you say this about them before.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Well, he also got hurt, and even last year they
still made us a playoff team, right.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And you know what you might end up doing saying
the same exact thing, damn, because eventually it's.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Gonna hit your problem. It's not going to hit Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's it's gonna hit man.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I mean, you're you're glass half fool on this one,
and I get it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Well, Okay, would you think it's safe to say that
we could pick three teams out of the AFC North and
call them playoff teams?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Right?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Is it that hard to predict that? That's kind of
what it's good?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
No, it's gonna be It'll probably be three. It possibly
could be two, though I'm I'm saying here's here.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Here's the hard part is who are the two teams
you'd picked that wouldn't make it? In Pittsburgh and Cleveland? Yes,
because you're not high on Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I'm not high on Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
You have you gotta remember they got Nick Chubb coming back,
They got one of the best offensive lines.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I don't know what Nick is going to do if
you all right, if you got to make a bold
pick on the AFC North, what's a bold pick.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
On you Cleveland? When it would be the bold pick. Okay,
I'm gonna be a super Bowld pick say, I'll take
those right now, what are those odds right now?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I will take Baltimore not making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
That's a that's a foolish pick. I just you know
that's foolish. Lee.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Can you drop this down, keep track of this please, And.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Then Cleveland, Cleveland and Pittsburgh not making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I think it is a bold pick, but I think.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Is possible, and I'll go I'll go out on the elevens.
I think Cleveland winning the division.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's a bold that's a bold pick. All right, So
we got this redo, your redo yours, Jonas, Baltimore is
not making the playoffs. You yeah, I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
So Lee, keeping let me know where you keep this
file too, just in case I need to go on
there and like.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
What exactly what what exactly went and went through your
mind when you said Baltimore isn't going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I think that Cincinnati bounces back. Joe Burrow's concern over
his injury concern is a little bit concerning to me.
I think that Cincinnati bounces back, though I'm with Brady.
I like Cleveland's roster, and I think Pittsburgh Pittsburgh hasn't
gotten decent quarterback play since Roethlisberger's second to last year.
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If Russell Wilson is just what he was last year
in Denver, I think they're gonna be better. Like I
think Pittsburgh is probably second or third in that division.
I think Cincinnati wins a division and I think Baltimore's
on the outside looking in. And whether that means because
of injury or whatever else comes along with that, I
just I didn't like what happened in the AFC title game.
And we see this a lot where teams take a
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step back, and that's the one I'm gonna go with.
I'm gonna take Baltimore.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Not to.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
A defense that is phenomenal. They have a running game
now that they didn't have a year ago. Yeah, and
they have weapons on the outside. They get their tight
end back, Don't they get the tight end back healthy
this year?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
What what?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah? Likely show showcase he can fill in that void
too with Andrews.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So I can't even begin to understand what you're saying
right now about the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
It's bold, man, that is bold, and let.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Me taste that is. There was a lot of people
who couldn't understand Beethoven early on either and guess what
changed the world change?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
But truly could could people not understand Beethoven?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
They couldn't understand his style. They wanted him to be
like Motart.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I asked Lee this question.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I feel like Lee's more versus I got this. I
got answer.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
It we not really listen in the crap closet again.
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Uh, No, Beethoven was famous from the early years.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Actually not really.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Yeah, he was a child. He was a child prodigy.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
His dad wanted him to be a child prodigy. He
was not on the level of other child prodigies.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I don't know why, but like when Lee delivers the message,
it just sounds more official.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Yeah he was.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
If it's your voice or what it is, he's dad.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
It sounds like his dad was the LeVar ball of
his time. He was tour his son, who of course
was deaf, to uh, dignitaries around the country, and yeah,
he was Beethoven man.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
The speculation as to why he was deaf because his
dad would beat him when he was a child, and
that was just listen, this is a speculation. His dad
would beat him when he was a child, and his ears.
They did not develop as he got older, and thus
he had to write certain songs. He would cut the
legs off his piano. He would set it on his
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apartment floor and he'd write songs listening to the vibration
of the music.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think actually remember hearing that now. Yeah, but again,
it sounds more efficial, Lie says it.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, so I think it sounds more official to keep
it to Beethoven than to try to look at you
being brilliant for saying that the Baltimore Ravens will miss
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
It is comparison.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, it's just it doesn't. It doesn't equate to me.
It does, and I don't. I don't comprehend it. And yeah,
I don't think you justified it with the example you
just gave a.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Beak start called LeVar Hatethoven.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You know, I have been called a hater before. But
all I do is shoot from the hip. That's all
that's right, from the from the hip, right now. Business,
get that stand on that business you ain't you ain't there,
you ain't right with this one. I'm just telling you
that that's you know, but we'll take it out the podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
As you would say, Yeah, that's fine, take it out
the Oh God, just let me know where you saying
the filey please. It is Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady
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Speaker 4 (23:12):
Can you imagine that back in the day, for would
be in there and be like like, wow, out of this.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Actually have damn this is a good beat.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
If you heard this in person, if I was there
and listening to this in real time, real life, I
probably have.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Tears in my eyes, man, like really probably something. Yeah,
I'm like I'm emotional like that.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
That's my Yeah, because this this type of mut I actually,
if we're being honest, I generally listen to a lot
of music like this, or like medieval time music, because
I do a lot of work. I play a lot
of chess, so I actually listen to this. It's very
reflective music. I don't read a lot of books.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I read. I read for necessity. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I don't read for I mean for release is nice.
Moonlight Sinnata, though, is the song that's the banger?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Do we have that in our system?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I mean that that is the that is the probably not.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
This is like one of those starting songs when you
get piano lessons, they teach you how to play. I
think when I was, I was, I did it too
like they were. Yeah me neither.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I had another bad music. That makes it a little
more difficult, right Jonas right here?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Oh so good?
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, this is actually get.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
To bring some tears out of you.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Many This would be my we're.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
There and you were there if I was?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Actually is the music I'm play in slow mos Lee
makes his way from the studio into the restaurants, and then.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
The door closes, the agony slow.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Fear, not knowing if he's it's if he's gonna make
it or not.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
If I was a fighter, this would be my entrance music.
This right here, just haunting.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Do you get it?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Why are you gonna do that?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
We had such a good vibe doing and they had interjected.
As a fighter, listen.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
He.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Would look like in boxing. Listen, listen, make no mistake.
I take a craft of this song too. Like this
song is like it. It works with every food group.
I'm just letting you know. Let's go back to Lee
speaking speaking of which.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
Chopping BROCCOLI's sung to this on S n L by
Dana Carvey. If you're talking food groups, what chopping broccoli?
Chopping broccoly I have?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
What are you talking?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Okay, you were just chopping broccoli in the bathroom. What
are you talking about? That craft closet smells like the
produce ale.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
By the way, Lee did go Uh, he's back on
the train. He worked out yesterday.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Our train is off the track.
Speaker 9 (25:44):
And now we can't get off the off the train.
His legs are my legs are very noodlely.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Beethoven to Quad City DJ.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, all right, so it is two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
we are going to have our midweek Awards, the Good,
the Bad, and the Ugly coming up here in about
fifteen minutes from now. Somebody who ended off ugly with
his coaching career at the end.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It was your prediction in the last segment. That's all right, Hey,
that might be the best team in NFL.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Here's here's the only thing. What do you say they
missed the playoffs? Jonas? All right, that's I mean, what
was the last time they missed the playoffs? Six years ago?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Okay, I want to know it's a little bit more bold.
You want to the last time the Cleveland Browns won
the division? If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Oh, actually, god, I think I might know this. Never No,
they've won it the North was it?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
That?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Was it that Jim Couch, Kelly Holcomb or No, they
finished second to Pittsburg because they played him in a
playoff game.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I think Ninete damn.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
So they have not won the division. Berne, obviously I've
been a part of that.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, I think it would have been all the old
hip flask Bernie was out there slinging it for the
for the Brownies.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Back then.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm not sure why we have to describe him as that.
But you know what, I believe Bernie.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I love Braider. That's not true, Bernie. He's a super
Bowl champion.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I love Bernie. No Joan is just hated on.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I love it. Doesn't Hey, listen, the guy likes to
bend the elbow once or twice. I'm not judging, so
do we. He's not a problem. I'm just saying he
should be celebrated. He is a super Bowl champion. A
lot of people don't know that he was on the
Cowboys team that won the Super Bowl. He took a
kneel down at the end of that Super Bowl. That counts.
That is a true story. You can look that up
(27:41):
box Score. That all right? So hey, look, you make
a better NBA Finals If you want us to talk
about the NBA, I don't tell you, guys if we
had a game last night.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Unfortunately, we have to take off so many days in
between games for ESPN, ABC's TV scheduling, right, I mean, what.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
You want us to fake argue about the w n
B A. Sorry, you know this is the better content.
Craft Closets based.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Clark did play last night, either, What do you want
to do.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I would not have known if she played or didn't.
How about that.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Breaking news, I would not have known. I still think.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I still think our best w n B A segment
was when LeVar slipped up and called her Caitlin Jenner.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I didn't slip up. I mean, okay, just had time.
I was just having a good time, that's all.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I didn't mean it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Damn you know, well, all right do we have? Is
it getting the Probably a little too late to play
play coach Bob, Well, listen, we'll give it a spin.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Come on, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Bill O'Brien, former Houston Tech head coach now with Boston College,
he spoke about his time with the Houston Texans and
where things took a turn when he became the GM.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 11 (29:10):
We made some decisions relative to the organization to try
to fill.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
The GM role.
Speaker 11 (29:16):
We went after some guys we couldn't get them, and
at the end of the day, we went a full
year I think without a GM. Really myself and another
guy did it, and then there was a year where
they were like, well, we're just gonna you know, we'll
make you the GM.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
So in the end, that's not who I am.
Speaker 11 (29:34):
That's another lesson learned, right, Like, you know, I didn't
really enjoy being the GM. I didn't enjoy negotiating contracts.
I in some respects I lost relationships with some of
the guys that I was coaching, you know, because I
was also I didn't really enjoy that mixing. My opinion,
there's very few guys in the history of football that
(29:55):
can ever do that, and they're the greatest of the greats.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
And you know, I feel like I'm a good coach.
I know how to coach.
Speaker 11 (30:02):
I think you guys know that, But those things I'm
not great at.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I can evaluate talent.
Speaker 11 (30:08):
I know how to evaluate talent, but I'm not I
don't I shouldn't be negotiating contracts and things like that.
So in the end, that was a mistake by me,
and I wish I really didn't do that. To go,
to be really honest with you.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
That was Farmer NFL head coach Bill O'Brien on with
next up with Adam Brenneman.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
There you go, as I say, make sure you identify
who did the interview. That's my guy, because I love
Adam and he was with Hack too. Hack Christian Hackenberg
was was a party.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Though, Yeah he did. But we we still love him.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
He still we love him.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, we claim me. Okay, Hackenberg and and Brennerman they're there.
You know, I love them. I had those guys since
they were in high school. But you know, he had
he had to take his his path. Yeah, take his path?
You know, what about Bill O'Brien, What about But I
don't like Brown? I mean, I like this interview though.
(31:04):
I like this interview though, I like the way he sounded,
I liked his his logic.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
I'll say this, I'll take that back.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Let me retract that and say I don't not like
Bill o'brown, do not know the man.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
I just didn't like him for us.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I know a lot of people would beg to different
and have different opinions, but I have very very personal
reasons as to why I was not a fan of them.
But with that being said, a lot of the things
that he said had had sound logic connected to it
and as it applied to the topic matter that that
he was discussing.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
And you know, it sounds.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
As though life has has, you know, in some ways,
in some regards placed him where you know, he's happy
about where he's at and having the opportunity to coach
and do it at the level that he's doing it
at and and see if he can have some success.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
So, you know, go for him, Go for him. I
think he was much better than a lot of people
give him credit for in Houston.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
He was brilliant and he was brilliant in Houston as
a coach.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
The people forget too. Like who he won with the quarterback?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
It was a shop.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
No who was it?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Who was his quarterback?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Exactly? All cant even name. I think he won one
division title, I believe with case Kanam one year he
won another one. I want to say, win in the
playoffs that year? Was it with Tackenberg? I think it
was his quarterback. I mean he was his quarterback. Yeah,
it wasn't no, no, no, it was the It was a
young man out of Michigan State, Connor Connor Cook, Connor Cook.
(32:43):
I mean, if you go through it man like he
he did a lot. I granted A J.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
A J. J.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Wall was playing at at like the peak of his
career at that point. But I want to say the
first division title ended up being like Hoyer, maybe.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Brock Cosweiler had some time.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
That was the next year, I think, and then he
ended up going off to Denver.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
He is a mixture of guys, man and he and
he won.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
He just found a way to win. Yeah, he did.
I thought he did an excellent job in Houston. I
think where it went bad was the moment he got
rid of DeAndre Hopkins. I think that it was a
hit scratcher. It's still a hit scratcher. And I think
a lot of people judged him because they took a dive.
(33:33):
I mean, they nose dived after he left, so and
then all the rest of the things that kind of
unraveled after that. But I mean, for the most part,
you can't sit there and say he had a successful
run as a head coach for the Texans.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I'll put it this way though, if you like at
hopkins stats, outside of that first year in Arizona, he's
never been able to come close to replicating what he
had done in Houston those last like I guess, I
guess two of the last three years.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, now we get to see
you think of all the Belichick assistants, by far and away,
the best one though, of all, yeah, the most success
at at the NFL level. Saban obviously was an assistant
in Cleveland, and that's a whole nother realm, but NFL level,
he's said, by far the most success of all the
Belichick disciples. So it is two Pros and a Cup
(34:27):
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next here we are going to have our midweek awards,
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly right here on FSR.
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(34:50):
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You'll hear from him coming up here in a little
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Speaker 2 (35:19):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Oh sorry, that's one that's for my part, a little premature,
a little premature.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Leave the lap.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Who's got what this week?
Speaker 5 (35:45):
All right?
Speaker 9 (35:46):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good and hired. You know, we have some good Lvar.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
What was good this Yeah, I'm in Harrisburg, PA. Shots
out to my mob and Pa baby the eastern side.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I've been. Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I've been meeting with some Republicans, with some Democrats.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
We've been.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
We've been having some really right Yeah, no, not yet
at least, but I'll tell you what. Uh yeah, you
guys saw the picture. Shouts out to my people, Angelo
and those guys at Zimbi Zim's where the where the
home of the LeVar Allen resides. I'll probably be there tonight,
(36:28):
uh possibly watching the game and yeah and enjoying on
the LeVar Island. So if I come in banged up tomorrow,
it was a good night. That's what's good.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
And you can't have good without the bad.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Jonas. What was bad this week just the acting. A
lot of actors out there, a lot of people pretending
like they're w n b A insiders or they're really
caring about the wealth and import like the league and
everything else that comes along with it. No, you're not.
You're just like the rest of us. You weren't really
paying all that much attention for a long as time,
and now because you saw it trending on social media,
(37:04):
everybody's got to jump in and have an opinion on it.
It's ridiculous. It's fake. It's so transparent to me. A
lot of people pretending like, oh, let me tell you
what's important. The first NFL preseason game is August first,
That's what's important. So we get through the finals, we
get through all this stuff, and let's focus on the
task at hand. Football is right around the corner. Enough
(37:24):
with the acting.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
And from bad to worse, Brady, what was ugly?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
John ram withdrew from the US Open this week because
he's battling a foot infection. Gentlemen, I sent you the
picture which is a little off putting, and partly because
I mean, obviously, as a golfer you're constantly outside and
you know footy tan line is and the tandline doesn't
make it look green. But yeah, the picture of John
(37:53):
Ram's foot, that's what this foot infection is battling that
that is ugly?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
In between the last two toes?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Is that I believe there's something going on there with
the blue stuff that's there too.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well, not one who would who would like this photo
is not two feet feet thongs. I don't get it.
I don't get it.
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lattes are just bush lights. It's like slang for uh
what you call them. That's like their their thing or whatever,
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you know, like, uh, you know, Brady calls miller LTEs nicolaches.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Apparently it's different though, because everyone calls miller lights nicolaches.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know, you're the first person I heard use that
term for real. Yeah, huh so. And also throat burner,
you were big. That was one you told me as
well too throughout.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That's not true. I never What are some of the
other words.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Liver, lube, liver, yeah, that's one, ben, the elbow, lick,
the lid.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, yeah, not as well versed in the cheesy course
games us for drinking.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So that's like commonti vernacular. What do you mean, like everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Uses those The best the best thing you've ever said,
And I actually was talking to my sister about something
she does in tiaror decorating, was crap closet calling referring
to a bathroom or toilet is a crap closet is
quite possibly the best you've come up with at this
point because I will try to, like I go on
(02:21):
her Instagram page and I will comment below when she's
trying to be professional and she's trying to, you know,
talk about this different project she does, Like my sister
is extremely talented, like extremely like ridiculously talented at what
she does for a Tierra decorating, and then you'll see
this this jackass me just comment like, oh I crop
(02:42):
dust in that room or something along the lines, like
lower down on her page where there's like all these
other people who are making like design comments or compliments
to her or trying to ask about, hey, who do
you use for this? So what you use for this?
And then you know, like just to me, it is
such an immature thing that I do. But that's like
(03:05):
a sister brother, you know, a sibling deal, right that
like never ends. I could be sixty years old and
she's still doing this and I'm still doing that sort.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I think I came up with it because I heard
somebody use the term water closet, and it doesn't make
sense to me because when I think of a bathroom, yeah,
like that's a term for a bathroom. And when I
think of a when I think of a bathroom. I
don't think about the water. I think about what you're
doing in the bathroom. So crap closet just seemed better
than water closet so far.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Have you ever heard of crap closet before?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
No, it's so dumb, it really is. Like I think
it's like some people remind me of stuff that we
say on the show, and I go, how do we
have a gab.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You say on this show?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Whatever happened to la quos? Like, whatever happened to that account?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That I get shut down because I don't know that
we could probably keep that. Uh well, let me see
that's uh, that's will float around out there, what you're
talking about. I think I believe do we have Yeah,
it's still uh I think so. I think we're still
(04:13):
looking uh yeah, well maybe not. I don't know. We'll
full figure it out. But yeah, that was a show
account that we had that we were you know, it
started up the quarks, you know, but it felt like
that could get us in some trouble at some point.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That was supposed to be our show name right, Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I think there was no No, it's just quotes for
the show.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh yeah, efforting. We will, We'll try and figure that out. Also,
I'd like to to point out I made a mistake.
I bought store brand coffee. It was seven ninety nine
a bag. It's rough, so you get you paying for
quality does count sometimes, and I'm not going to air
(04:54):
out the store. But yeah, not a not a good idea.
This is this is worse than the coffee we have
over than the kitchen there, and that's pretty bad. So
we were often running here an hour two of the program.
Let's talk about somebody who's got everything figured out and altogether.
Levar's got Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson enters this year with
the Cleveland Browns and he's he's got a lot to prove.
(05:18):
And apparently he's seen some of the some of the
rankings on him. Chris Simms, I believe, had him twenty
fourth amongst starting quarterbacks in the NFL. So Deshaun Watson
has seen those rankings, He's heard that stuff, but he's
not bothered. He thinks it actually means it's a good thing.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Let's take a listen, each and every fan, each and
every media person, you know, they want to see me
at that level that I o'kay what I'm doing. So
that's the standard, and so I got to make seall
hold myself to it. So it's not a bad thing.
It's not anything like that. Don't I don't get involved
with you know, people trying to rake me some you know,
places where you know they think I'm at the bottom
of the list. You know, it is what it is.
(05:56):
If I was at the bottom, the one would talk
about me. So obviously, if if anyone is talking about
me and continue to talk about me, then I must
be pretty good.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'm good. Or I mean, technically he isn't the bottom
the list, which is why it was asked.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Or you're making a hell of a lot of money
being at the bottom of the list, or.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
People are talking about you because you're into weird stuff.
I don't know, there's other reasons why people have talked
about him. So he started twelve games since twenty twenty
like kind of that, yeah, wow, kind of a problem.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I mean, I mean, I knew he's messed toime. I
know it was that few. Yeah, but when you put
it that way, it does sound a little bit ridiculous.
I mean, like again that obviously we're beating a dead horse.
Everyone knows the history of what's happened. But I don't
think if we go ten years from now, like this
will be a case study in some NBA class on
(06:56):
I mean, probably how this doesn't work out, but of
what not to do. I mean, you gave a guy
after not playing for a year, with double digit allegations
lawsuits against him, after not playing two hundred and thirty
fully guaranteed million dollars, Like, in what world does that happen?
(07:19):
And then even since then, to your point, he's played what.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Twelve games I started?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, started twelve games?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I mean at some point again, people who try to
make this season seem like it's a make or break
year for Deshaun Watson obviously don't understand the financial obligation
the Browns are under with him. This is not a
make or break year. Next year is not a make
or break year unless they literally want to take on
the greatest dead cap hit in the history of the
NFL and probably for the foreseeable future the next two
(07:51):
to three decades. There is no way in my mind
this next year or even I guess you could maybe
say the following, but it's not until three years from
now where you could say it's a make or break
year because the financial obligation the Browns are under with
Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't even I say make or break in a
different way. And I think that make or break year
for him has already passed.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
He's broken.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
What what people in my estimation that paid him the
money that they they paid him, he hasn't lived up
to it. And and listen, it's guaranteed money. He hasn't
played very much, and it's it's it's broken I and
I don't I don't see it changing. It's when you're that,
(08:42):
when you've been removed for as long as he has been,
It's it's competitive enough. It's like, I don't know the
percentage you might know a Q. I don't know the
percentage of guys that are able to make it into
the league as a quarterback and and further as a
starting quarterback. It's a very, very, very minute percentage. To
(09:05):
think that you're actually able to be away from the
game as long as he has been and played as
sparingly as he has played, to think that he's just
going to come back and set the world on fire.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Can he come back and be maybe a formidable quarterback,
a serviceable starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So there's some aspects of it where at the time
that he's played, you've seen some glimmers of the possibilities
of hope for him to be a franchise quarterback somewhat like.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
He was when he was in Houston.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
But I think that that's a pipe dream to think
that this guy is going to be an elite QB
in the National Football League. So make or break, I mean,
he's getting paid. If we're saying make or break, he'll
be on the roster, I guess at that. But if
we're talking him as a player and what he's going
to accomplish as a player, I just find that to
(10:06):
be it's hard to convince me myself that he's going
to be like all of a sudden, all of this
time he's missed, that he's going to come back and
set the world on fire. I don't see it. I
don't see it happening.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Look, I understand like they they made the move because
at one time he was, you know, one of the
top as far as if you were looking at if
you were going to build your franchise around a quarterback,
he would be the guy. He would be one of
the guys like your top five lists, Like he'd be
a young guy.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Not necessarily sure I would go down that road. Well no,
but I'm saying he has some good seasons.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So he's twenty eighteen to twenty twenty years, you'd be
hard pressed not to to put him in that category.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It was really promised.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
I think he had some statistical probably passed with five
thousand yards in twenty twenty. I get it say it
was a bad season for them, but I mean, you
can't take that away from him, and that's but that's
the hard part is is like can he ever be
that player that he once was when he went to
three Pro Bowls?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
By the way, the stats are so of the point
zero one percent they get drafted. I believe this is
coming from high school, right, So high school football players
point zero one percent, I believe, because the stats are
like seven point three go on to play in college.
At some point of that the top one point six
percent go on to have a shot of that point
zero one percent get drafted, and then all those trafficks,
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only thirty percent will ever make an NFL roster.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Of the point zero percent of the point zero one.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, so then if you break it down positionally, it's
obviously even fewer.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
That's why that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's why I didn't try for the NFL, because I
was like, you know what, these numbers just aren't fair.
It's too skewed. I'm just not even gonna participate.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You can't convince me of those numbers that a guy
that hasn't played as much as he has not played
for as long as he has not played for can
just come back into a league where those percentages are
so minute and be a guy. It should already, if
we're being honest, there should already been a guy that
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was in place that and I mean guy Lee, Like
look at Flacco, look at what he did. They put
a guy in place that that was serviceable enough to
get them to where he got them to.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Joe Flacco and Baker Mayfield have been better Browns quarterbacks
and Deshaun Watson and neither's there, both of them.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And to that point, Baker Mayfield went and did more
in Tampa Bay. You got rid of them for this
ginormous contract, which you wouldn't have had to pay Baker
Mayfield as much as you paid Deshaun Watson and Deshaun
I mean Baker Mayfield has produced more during the course
of this period of time of the switch up than
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what than what Deshaun Watson has has generated.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Remember, at the time, wasn't wasn't the contract the numbers
being thrown out with Baker Mayfield going to that funny
it was. Yeah, it was like like a four year,
four year, hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I bet you they wish they would have did it now.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I bet you they wish they would have tackled
that nut now versus the one they gave to Deshaun Watt. Wait,
let me take that back pause. I bet you they
would have tackled that contract rather than the one that
they did was Shaw Watson. You gotta be careful in
your wording these days with certain people, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Do you think that Joe, because Joe Flacco said that
he did want to come back like he loved Cleveland,
do you think part of the reason he wasn't brought
back is because they were maybe concerned that maybe it
would be a little bit awkward that Deshaun Watson would
feel a certain kind of way that that guy who
did all of that with your guys and your roster,
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because you couldn't like that maybe they were on the
field he had like maybe there's a little bit of
awkwardness behind that because they brought in Jameis Winston and
you've already heard Mary Kay Cabotts say they're not going
to be hesitant if Deshaun comes out and he struggles
early on, They're not going to be hesitant to go
to Jameis Winston at some point.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Dude, all I know is I still can't believe they've
got Jamis as a backup again. I can't reiterate that
enough that that's like he should be starting somewhere. The
fact that he's a backup in Cleveland. I understand, it's
a great situation. You know, Watson's had injury issues, so
all those things line up for being in a good
situation to go in and succeed and win. But I
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just you can't tell me that he couldn't be on
another roster right now, starting, or at least competing for
a starting job. That's tough for that's.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
To Zach Wilson is starting in competing for.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Denver in Denver, Las Vegas, Like, come on, man, it's
that's crazy to me. People people might take issue with
the I don't want to criticize me for saying that.
I'm just saying that Jameis Winston has too much ability
to be sitting as a backup. That makes no sense
to me right now.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I would love to see an over under a number
of starts Jameis Winston gets this.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Year versus Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well, just period, because I would love to see it
versus Deshaun Watson. How many starts? If you had the
guests right now, how many games will Deshaun Watson start
for the Cleveland Browns versus Jamis Winston?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
What would you say?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I think he starts more than Jamis, but I'll put no,
I don't. I think I think Deshaun Watson starts less
than twelve games this year.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't. I think it starts over twelve. And I
think he has a big year. I think I think
Cleveland's gonna be a really, really good team this year.
I'm telling you, I've looked at the roster like it's.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I've heard you say this about them before.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Well, he also got hurt, and even last year they
still made us a playoff team, right.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And you know what you might end up doing saying
the same exact thing, damn, because eventually it's.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Gonna hit your problem. It's not going to hit Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's it's gonna hit man.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I mean, you're you're glass half fool on this one,
and I get it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Well, Okay, would you think it's safe to say that
we could pick three teams out of the AFC North and
call them playoff teams?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Right?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Is it that hard to predict that? That's kind of
what it's good?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
No, it's gonna be It'll probably be three. It possibly
could be two, though I'm I'm saying here's here.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Here's the hard part is who are the two teams
you'd picked that wouldn't make it? In Pittsburgh and Cleveland? Yes,
because you're not high on Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I'm not high on Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
You have you gotta remember they got Nick Chubb coming back,
They got one of the best offensive lines.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I don't know what Nick is going to do if
you all right, if you got to make a bold
pick on the AFC North, what's a bold pick.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
On you Cleveland? When it would be the bold pick. Okay,
I'm gonna be a super Bowld pick say, I'll take
those right now, what are those odds right now?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I will take Baltimore not making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
That's a that's a foolish pick. I just you know
that's foolish. Lee.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Can you drop this down, keep track of this please, And.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Then Cleveland, Cleveland and Pittsburgh not making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I think it is a bold pick, but I think.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Is possible, and I'll go I'll go out on the elevens.
I think Cleveland winning the division.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's a bold that's a bold pick. All right, So
we got this redo, your redo yours, Jonas, Baltimore is
not making the playoffs. You yeah, I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
So Lee, keeping let me know where you keep this
file too, just in case I need to go on
there and like.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
What exactly what what exactly went and went through your
mind when you said Baltimore isn't going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I think that Cincinnati bounces back. Joe Burrow's concern over
his injury concern is a little bit concerning to me.
I think that Cincinnati bounces back, though I'm with Brady.
I like Cleveland's roster, and I think Pittsburgh Pittsburgh hasn't
gotten decent quarterback play since Roethlisberger's second to last year.
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If Russell Wilson is just what he was last year
in Denver, I think they're gonna be better. Like I
think Pittsburgh is probably second or third in that division.
I think Cincinnati wins a division and I think Baltimore's
on the outside looking in. And whether that means because
of injury or whatever else comes along with that, I
just I didn't like what happened in the AFC title game.
And we see this a lot where teams take a
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step back, and that's the one I'm gonna go with.
I'm gonna take Baltimore.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Not to.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
A defense that is phenomenal. They have a running game
now that they didn't have a year ago. Yeah, and
they have weapons on the outside. They get their tight
end back, Don't they get the tight end back healthy
this year?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
What what?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah? Likely show showcase he can fill in that void
too with Andrews.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So I can't even begin to understand what you're saying
right now about the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
It's bold, man, that is bold, and let.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Me taste that is. There was a lot of people
who couldn't understand Beethoven early on either and guess what
changed the world change?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
But truly could could people not understand Beethoven?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
They couldn't understand his style. They wanted him to be
like Motart.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I asked Lee this question.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I feel like Lee's more versus I got this. I
got answer.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
It we not really listen in the crap closet again.
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Uh, No, Beethoven was famous from the early years.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Actually not really.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Yeah, he was a child. He was a child prodigy.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
His dad wanted him to be a child prodigy. He
was not on the level of other child prodigies.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I don't know why, but like when Lee delivers the message,
it just sounds more official.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Yeah he was.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
If it's your voice or what it is, he's dad.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
It sounds like his dad was the LeVar ball of
his time. He was tour his son, who of course
was deaf, to uh, dignitaries around the country, and yeah,
he was Beethoven man.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
The speculation as to why he was deaf because his
dad would beat him when he was a child, and
that was just listen, this is a speculation. His dad
would beat him when he was a child, and his ears.
They did not develop as he got older, and thus
he had to write certain songs. He would cut the
legs off his piano. He would set it on his
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apartment floor and he'd write songs listening to the vibration
of the music.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think actually remember hearing that now. Yeah, but again,
it sounds more efficial, Lie says it.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, so I think it sounds more official to keep
it to Beethoven than to try to look at you
being brilliant for saying that the Baltimore Ravens will miss
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
It is comparison.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, it's just it doesn't. It doesn't equate to me.
It does, and I don't. I don't comprehend it. And yeah,
I don't think you justified it with the example you
just gave a.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Beak start called LeVar Hatethoven.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You know, I have been called a hater before. But
all I do is shoot from the hip. That's all
that's right, from the from the hip, right now. Business,
get that stand on that business you ain't you ain't there,
you ain't right with this one. I'm just telling you
that that's you know, but we'll take it out the podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
As you would say, Yeah, that's fine, take it out
the Oh God, just let me know where you saying
the filey please. It is Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady
you coming up next here though somebody is defending their
reputation as a head coach. You will hear from them
right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
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Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah, you blubber litame in me.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
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be good at it because you've been over promising women
for years.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
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Speaker 3 (23:02):
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here on Fox Sports Radio, brought back by for a Lease.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Can you imagine that back in the day, for would
be in there and be like like, wow, out of this.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Actually have damn this is a good beat.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
If you heard this in person, if I was there
and listening to this in real time, real life, I
probably have.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Tears in my eyes, man, like really probably something. Yeah,
I'm like I'm emotional like that.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
That's my Yeah, because this this type of mut I actually,
if we're being honest, I generally listen to a lot
of music like this, or like medieval time music, because
I do a lot of work. I play a lot
of chess, so I actually listen to this. It's very
reflective music. I don't read a lot of books.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I read. I read for necessity. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I don't read for I mean for release is nice.
Moonlight Sinnata, though, is the song that's the banger?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Do we have that in our system?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I mean that that is the that is the probably not.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
This is like one of those starting songs when you
get piano lessons, they teach you how to play. I
think when I was, I was, I did it too
like they were. Yeah me neither.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I had another bad music. That makes it a little
more difficult, right Jonas right here?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Oh so good?
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, this is actually get.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
To bring some tears out of you.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Many This would be my we're.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
There and you were there if I was?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Actually is the music I'm play in slow mos Lee
makes his way from the studio into the restaurants, and then.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
The door closes, the agony slow.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Fear, not knowing if he's it's if he's gonna make
it or not.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
If I was a fighter, this would be my entrance music.
This right here, just haunting.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Do you get it?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Why are you gonna do that?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
We had such a good vibe doing and they had interjected.
As a fighter, listen.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
He.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Would look like in boxing. Listen, listen, make no mistake.
I take a craft of this song too. Like this
song is like it. It works with every food group.
I'm just letting you know. Let's go back to Lee
speaking speaking of which.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
Chopping BROCCOLI's sung to this on S n L by
Dana Carvey. If you're talking food groups, what chopping broccoli?
Chopping broccoly I have?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
What are you talking?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Okay, you were just chopping broccoli in the bathroom. What
are you talking about? That craft closet smells like the
produce ale.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
By the way, Lee did go Uh, he's back on
the train. He worked out yesterday.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Our train is off the track.
Speaker 9 (25:44):
And now we can't get off the off the train.
His legs are my legs are very noodlely.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Beethoven to Quad City DJ.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, all right, so it is two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
we are going to have our midweek Awards, the Good,
the Bad, and the Ugly coming up here in about
fifteen minutes from now. Somebody who ended off ugly with
his coaching career at the end.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It was your prediction in the last segment. That's all right, Hey,
that might be the best team in NFL.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Here's here's the only thing. What do you say they
missed the playoffs? Jonas? All right, that's I mean, what
was the last time they missed the playoffs? Six years ago?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Okay, I want to know it's a little bit more bold.
You want to the last time the Cleveland Browns won
the division? If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Oh, actually, god, I think I might know this. Never No,
they've won it the North was it?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
That?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Was it that Jim Couch, Kelly Holcomb or No, they
finished second to Pittsburg because they played him in a
playoff game.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I think Ninete damn.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
So they have not won the division. Berne, obviously I've
been a part of that.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, I think it would have been all the old
hip flask Bernie was out there slinging it for the
for the Brownies.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Back then.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm not sure why we have to describe him as that.
But you know what, I believe Bernie.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I love Braider. That's not true, Bernie. He's a super
Bowl champion.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I love Bernie. No Joan is just hated on.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I love it. Doesn't Hey, listen, the guy likes to
bend the elbow once or twice. I'm not judging, so
do we. He's not a problem. I'm just saying he
should be celebrated. He is a super Bowl champion. A
lot of people don't know that he was on the
Cowboys team that won the Super Bowl. He took a
kneel down at the end of that Super Bowl. That counts.
That is a true story. You can look that up
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box Score. That all right? So hey, look, you make
a better NBA Finals If you want us to talk
about the NBA, I don't tell you, guys if we
had a game last night.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Unfortunately, we have to take off so many days in
between games for ESPN, ABC's TV scheduling, right, I mean, what.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
You want us to fake argue about the w n
B A. Sorry, you know this is the better content.
Craft Closets based.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Clark did play last night, either, What do you want
to do.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I would not have known if she played or didn't.
How about that.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Breaking news, I would not have known. I still think.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I still think our best w n B A segment
was when LeVar slipped up and called her Caitlin Jenner.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I didn't slip up. I mean, okay, just had time.
I was just having a good time, that's all.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I didn't mean it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Damn you know, well, all right do we have? Is
it getting the Probably a little too late to play
play coach Bob, Well, listen, we'll give it a spin.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Come on, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Bill O'Brien, former Houston Tech head coach now with Boston College,
he spoke about his time with the Houston Texans and
where things took a turn when he became the GM.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 11 (29:10):
We made some decisions relative to the organization to try
to fill.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
The GM role.
Speaker 11 (29:16):
We went after some guys we couldn't get them, and
at the end of the day, we went a full
year I think without a GM. Really myself and another
guy did it, and then there was a year where
they were like, well, we're just gonna you know, we'll
make you the GM.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
So in the end, that's not who I am.
Speaker 11 (29:34):
That's another lesson learned, right, Like, you know, I didn't
really enjoy being the GM. I didn't enjoy negotiating contracts.
I in some respects I lost relationships with some of
the guys that I was coaching, you know, because I
was also I didn't really enjoy that mixing. My opinion,
there's very few guys in the history of football that
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can ever do that, and they're the greatest of the greats.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
And you know, I feel like I'm a good coach.
I know how to coach.
Speaker 11 (30:02):
I think you guys know that, But those things I'm
not great at.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I can evaluate talent.
Speaker 11 (30:08):
I know how to evaluate talent, but I'm not I
don't I shouldn't be negotiating contracts and things like that.
So in the end, that was a mistake by me,
and I wish I really didn't do that. To go,
to be really honest with you.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
That was Farmer NFL head coach Bill O'Brien on with
next up with Adam Brenneman.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
There you go, as I say, make sure you identify
who did the interview. That's my guy, because I love
Adam and he was with Hack too. Hack Christian Hackenberg
was was a party.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Though, Yeah he did. But we we still love him.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
He still we love him.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, we claim me. Okay, Hackenberg and and Brennerman they're there.
You know, I love them. I had those guys since
they were in high school. But you know, he had
he had to take his his path. Yeah, take his path?
You know, what about Bill O'Brien, What about But I
don't like Brown? I mean, I like this interview though.
(31:04):
I like this interview though, I like the way he sounded,
I liked his his logic.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
I'll say this, I'll take that back.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Let me retract that and say I don't not like
Bill o'brown, do not know the man.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
I just didn't like him for us.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I know a lot of people would beg to different
and have different opinions, but I have very very personal
reasons as to why I was not a fan of them.
But with that being said, a lot of the things
that he said had had sound logic connected to it
and as it applied to the topic matter that that
he was discussing.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
And you know, it sounds.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
As though life has has, you know, in some ways,
in some regards placed him where you know, he's happy
about where he's at and having the opportunity to coach
and do it at the level that he's doing it
at and and see if he can have some success.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
So, you know, go for him, Go for him. I
think he was much better than a lot of people
give him credit for in Houston.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
He was brilliant and he was brilliant in Houston as
a coach.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
The people forget too. Like who he won with the quarterback?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
It was a shop.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
No who was it?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Who was his quarterback?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Exactly? All cant even name. I think he won one
division title, I believe with case Kanam one year he
won another one. I want to say, win in the
playoffs that year? Was it with Tackenberg? I think it
was his quarterback. I mean he was his quarterback. Yeah,
it wasn't no, no, no, it was the It was a
young man out of Michigan State, Connor Connor Cook, Connor Cook.
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I mean, if you go through it man like he
he did a lot. I granted A J.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
A J. J.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Wall was playing at at like the peak of his
career at that point. But I want to say the
first division title ended up being like Hoyer, maybe.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Brock Cosweiler had some time.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
That was the next year, I think, and then he
ended up going off to Denver.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
He is a mixture of guys, man and he and
he won.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
He just found a way to win. Yeah, he did.
I thought he did an excellent job in Houston. I
think where it went bad was the moment he got
rid of DeAndre Hopkins. I think that it was a
hit scratcher. It's still a hit scratcher. And I think
a lot of people judged him because they took a dive.
(33:33):
I mean, they nose dived after he left, so and
then all the rest of the things that kind of
unraveled after that. But I mean, for the most part,
you can't sit there and say he had a successful
run as a head coach for the Texans.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I'll put it this way though, if you like at
hopkins stats, outside of that first year in Arizona, he's
never been able to come close to replicating what he
had done in Houston those last like I guess, I
guess two of the last three years.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, now we get to see
you think of all the Belichick assistants, by far and away,
the best one though, of all, yeah, the most success
at at the NFL level. Saban obviously was an assistant
in Cleveland, and that's a whole nother realm, but NFL level,
he's said, by far the most success of all the
Belichick disciples. So it is two Pros and a Cup
(34:27):
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, and coming up
next here we are going to have our midweek awards,
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly right here on FSR.
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio.
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
off top of next hour a little over ten minutes
from now from the tire rack dot Com studios. Listen,
there's a coach in the NFL who apparently has just
(34:50):
reached the point to where doesn't care all that much.
You'll hear from him coming up here in a little
over ten minutes from now on FSR. Before we get
to another edition of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, though,
I want to remind you that shortly after the show,
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(35:13):
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Speaker 2 (35:19):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Oh sorry, that's one that's for my part, a little premature,
a little premature.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Leave the lap.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Who's got what this week?
Speaker 5 (35:45):
All right?
Speaker 9 (35:46):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good and hired. You know, we have some good Lvar.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
What was good this Yeah, I'm in Harrisburg, PA. Shots
out to my mob and Pa baby the eastern side.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I've been. Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I've been meeting with some Republicans, with some Democrats.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
We've been.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
We've been having some really right Yeah, no, not yet
at least, but I'll tell you what. Uh yeah, you
guys saw the picture. Shouts out to my people, Angelo
and those guys at Zimbi Zim's where the where the
home of the LeVar Allen resides. I'll probably be there tonight,
(36:28):
uh possibly watching the game and yeah and enjoying on
the LeVar Island. So if I come in banged up tomorrow,
it was a good night. That's what's good.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
And you can't have good without the bad.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Jonas. What was bad this week just the acting. A
lot of actors out there, a lot of people pretending
like they're w n b A insiders or they're really
caring about the wealth and import like the league and
everything else that comes along with it. No, you're not.
You're just like the rest of us. You weren't really
paying all that much attention for a long as time,
and now because you saw it trending on social media,
(37:04):
everybody's got to jump in and have an opinion on it.
It's ridiculous. It's fake. It's so transparent to me. A
lot of people pretending like, oh, let me tell you
what's important. The first NFL preseason game is August first,
That's what's important. So we get through the finals, we
get through all this stuff, and let's focus on the
task at hand. Football is right around the corner. Enough
(37:24):
with the acting.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
And from bad to worse, Brady, what was ugly?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
John ram withdrew from the US Open this week because
he's battling a foot infection. Gentlemen, I sent you the
picture which is a little off putting, and partly because
I mean, obviously, as a golfer you're constantly outside and
you know footy tan line is and the tandline doesn't
make it look green. But yeah, the picture of John
(37:53):
Ram's foot, that's what this foot infection is battling that
that is ugly?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
In between the last two toes?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Is that I believe there's something going on there with
the blue stuff that's there too.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well, not one who would who would like this photo
is not two feet feet thongs. I don't get it.
I don't get it.
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