September 30, 2024 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:59):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Tom Brady on the call oh back in Tampa probably
thrilled did not have to do another Cowboys game, because
that's all he's gotten through his brief broadcasting career up
to this point. But he was on the call in
Tampa Bay yesterday for the dismantling of the Philadelphia Eagles
by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Just game wise, Tampa Bay
(01:23):
looked great, nice bounce back off whatever the hell that
was against Denver, and Philly just looked completely overwhelmed. They
too were banged up with injuries, but they don't look
like the same team that they were a couple of
years ago and even parts of last year. It seems
like something's off with them. But nonetheless, Tom Brady's on
the call. And this is not long after the comments
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came out on the Casa de Clube podcast Corey Klueber's
podcast in which Baker Mayfield talked about, you know, guys
being stressed out when he got there, and you, Tom Brady,
you know, holding players accountable, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And so there was an opportunity during.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The broadcast for Brady to address those comments, and it
went like this quote.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
They wanted me to come in, be myself, bring the
joy back to football for guys.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Who weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's funny because you've made this environment for me very
stressful up here in the booths.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Like I understand where it's coming from.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Do you feel I know where stress well, I was
gonna say, I thought stressful was not having Super Bowl rings.
So there was a mindset of a champion that I
took to work every day.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
This wasn't daycare.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
If I wanted have fun, I was gonna go to
Disneyland with my kids.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
So you know, as you were saying, go ahead, let's
you feel like, I feel like there's more in there
to say.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
There's a way to approach this game.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah, and it's that with the with the right mindset
and try to push each other outside of our comfort zone.
And great teammates do that.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You come in.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
I have someone like Gronkowska, I have someone like Evans.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
There's high X expectations for us.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
We've got to make sure we go out there and deliver.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The competitive juice is still flowing, still in there.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Longdo apologies.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So that was Tom Brady's response to the comments from
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
You know, we talked about this when Baker Mayfield set
his portion of it, and I hear those comments from
Tom and I think the first thing I just say
is he's setting the tone where he's not going to
allow anyone if they want to take a shot at
him to take a shot at him. Now that he's
outside the realm of football where he can't let his
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play do the talking for him. Now he gets to
talk and he doesn't have to be under the you know,
umbrella of Bill Belichick who didn't want him to be
the person that he's always been. And so now we're
getting an idea of what that is. A highly competitive
individual who strives to be the best at whatever he's doing.
And with that is going to come you know, some
(03:58):
some pushback. Ay times someone makes comments like that, that's
how he's wired, that's how he's geared. There's nothing wrong
with that, you know. I think this and it was
a lesson for Baker Mayfield the sense of and look,
I've been through it before and especially in media, like
I don't always say things the way I'd like to.
And I listened back and I'm like, Okay, could have
done this, could have said it this way, could have
(04:19):
you know, positioned it this way. But what Baker will
learn is, you know, the media always gets the last
laugh because they're the ones that are have the writing
the article last, saying whatever they get last. It's really hard,
you know, outside of just then going on Twitter after
you hear something like that to say something. That's why
I'd be shocked if he even responds to this, because
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there isn't a response. This is the goat and you're
you're talking about the difference in environment between when he
was there when you were there, and there are some
elements of that that maybe there's some truth to it,
like people are walking on eggshells or people aren't stressful,
but whatever the case may be. But the difference is
because you're not Tom Brady, You're not the greatest of
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all time. You're not in an organization where they brought
this guy in to win it. That was his whole
you know, he went through the note cards. I don't
know if you guys watched the game. He had the
note cards and wouldn't get to that, like one of
the teams that wasn't really reportedly a team that was
supposedly had a chance of getting him, but he mentioned it.
But he went through all the lists of things in
criteria that he think he had seventeen or eighteen different
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things he was looking at and why he chose Tampa.
But when he got to Tampa, everyone knew what the
goal was. That was his goal. To go win a
Super Bowl. They did it year one right away, So
of course there's gonna be stress. Of course there's going
to be everything else that goes along with that, because
he's trying to hold everyone else up to the expectation
that he has built because of what he did before
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he got there. You know, with Baker's entirely different feel.
You know, he's trying to prove himself. He's trying to
own over or win over that locker room to get
guys like LeVar to look at him and say like, yeah,
I need you to believe in me. With if Tom
Brady comes on Levar's two, is there any question you
believe in Tom LeVar? No, No, I mean if Tom
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looks at the defense says jump, everyone's gonna jump because
he had that, He had that equity already built up
before he got there. With Baker, everyone's gonna look at
him funny, like, what the hell you talking about? Man,
Let's go play some football first before you can figure
things out.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, there was a reason why he jumped out there
like that, because it was unwornant to put himself in
in that way. He doesn't compare to Tom Brady. It
almost makes me feel like the reasoning behind it was
he felt like he needed to say it. And if
if I'm looking at it from the standpoint, Baker Mayfield
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jumped in front of a mac truck because he felt
like he needed to do it. I wonder who was
who was gassing him up in the organization to do so,
because that seems like the type of dude Baker Mayfield is, like,
he's a he's a team guy. He you know, his
guys are or his guys or whatever. It could have
been a coach that was feed named that.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I don't know, but it just seems like it was.
It didn't come like it was unsolicited, Like it wasn't
just that wasn't just a random shot fired at Tom Brady.
And I just wonder why he saw it fit to
put that out there, you know, that would be my
(07:25):
biggest question and all of this was or would be,
why did Baker Mayfield feel it necessary to make that statement,
in particular as it applied to his being in Tampa Bay,
knowing that this was an opportunity for him to kind
of rebound from what didn't happen for him in Cleveland.
(07:47):
It just doesn't seem like you would want to kind
of upset, you know, or disrupt in that way. For
if there's really no purpose, would be no reason outside
of if he were doing and I can't. I think
you kind of touched on a little bit Q in
terms of was he doing this so that he could
be accepted, so that it could be like, oh, he
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stood up to Tom like we could follow him, like
he's he's a leader. Whatever it may have been, something
spurned him or something made him put that put him out,
put that out there, or made him think that he
needed to put that out there.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So Baker Mayfield was asked about this after the game.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
A lot of that got taken out of context, and
none of it was personal by any means. It's just,
you know, what he demanded of the guys, and that's
that's the aura of Tom Brady and that's what he
did to bring a championship here and so nothing personal.
But yeah, talking before the game, he's obviously happy for me,
and he knows the guys, so he knows how much
(08:48):
I enjoyed throwing to Mike and Chris because he got
to do the same. And so it's fun to be
able to, you know, talk about the same experiences with
the guy like that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So here's what I wonder when Brady makes those comment
and c he does during the broadcast yesterday. Were those
comments directed at Baker Mayfield or maybe somebody else. I
don't but he's saying it from the words of somebody
else who was there when Tom Brady was there. And
(09:17):
I wonder if that was Brady chirping back at whoever
went to Baker Mayfield and said, we were really stressed
out and there was this, this and this and all
this other stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
That was going on.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I wonder how much of that was really aimed
towards Baker or maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But it could have been like a GM, it could
have been a scout, it could it could have been
anyone who said it. But I think that whoever had
this conversation or multiple conversations with Baker Mayfield, it made
Baker Mayfield feel as though he needed to address it.
And that is a personal like. I don't understand how
sometimes people say things like that's not sensible.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
That is I think the anything that you know, when
you say it gets taken out of context. It's like, well,
all right, let's go back and listen because this has
happened to me. Man. I mean to this day, people
would be like, hey man, you weren't high on CJ. Stroud.
I go, what are you talking about? And like we
said something before the draft, and this is how you know.
People just don't listen, They don't read, they don't ever
(10:19):
look at anything and look at it. I said, what
do you mean? Because because I said that he had
skipped in the Manning Academy and told what I was
told by a very reliable source, that's all I said.
I said, I thought he was going to go number
two in the draft, right behind Bryce Young. I said,
the kid was amazing during his entire career and dealing
with him in Ohio State and everything else. But people
don't listen to stuff. So in this case, you know,
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we get the clip of what Baker Mayfield had said.
We don't know what the question was coming off of that,
with the conversation was coming off of that. I mean,
I just echoed the sentiment of when Peyton Manning was
in Denver and I was in Kansas City talked to
some guys that played for the Broncos and they talked
about the difference of what it was like with Peyton,
because I was curious. I was like, what's he like?
(11:01):
You know, what kind of stuff it does he do?
Or you know, how how's the environment different, like what
a meeting's like. I was curious. Could have signed back there.
In a lot of ways, those probably one of the
biggest mistakes I made my professional career was not signing
back in Denver to just see how Peydon Manning operated,
see how he did things. You know, I never had
that opportunity to learn from someone like that, and then
(11:22):
especially like an all time you know, Hall of Famer,
all time great. So you know, the hard thing is,
I don't know what the entire conversation was before he
made those comments. You know, is there some truth to
the environment being more stressful with Tom? They're probably yeah.
But that's what comes again with a guy who would
won six Super Bowls at that point, a guy who'd
already been determined and considered the greatest of all time,
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and look at the run that they had during those
two decades. So look, he made a mistake in the
way he went about presenting it. I've been there, I've
done that. Surely, not gonna condemn someone for something like this,
I'm sure he'll learn from it. But more than anything
else else. To your initial question, Jonas, I said, it's
a tone setting comment, tone setting for everyone. Like it
(12:05):
doesn't matter if it was Baker's comments or someone within
the organization. I think Tom Brady setting the tone like, Okay,
you you want to say something, Okay, I'm gonna go
on national television and because I'm gonna have time to
prepare what i want to say and how i want
to say it, and I'm gonna throw an absolute overhand
right like Mike Tyson and his Heyday, and I'm gonna
(12:26):
knock you out, and I'm gonna knock out the next person,
the next person. So if that's what you want to
step two, good luck because I'll have the time and platform.
I mean, notice how KB teed him up again for
an on camera shot. You have more more like That's
that's what like, Just so people understand how games work,
(12:47):
you don't come on camera as an analyst and a
play by play unless it's the open at a halftime,
end of the game, or there's a break where it
warrants that that wasn't really like a break, that was
them interjecting what Tom wanted to say at that moment,
to make sure his message was sent very clear to
(13:10):
everybody out there listening, knowing that this would get picked
up and this will get discussed. So it's not just
Tom even too setting the tone. This is Fox Sports,
this is you know, KB and everyone else behind the scenes,
who's who's producing. Like they're all saying like, all right,
you want to take shots at our guy, Like we're
gonna provide him every opportunity to go one hundred on
(13:33):
your ass.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I was underestimating how much you would address it. I
thought maybe he'd make like a swipe or some sort
of comment like, oh, you know, I just hope they're
not as stressed out or something along those lines. But
the fact that he was teed up there was a presentation.
I was like, Wow, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You could hear it in his voice and see it
in him like, oh yeah, you can see it.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And by the way, the other part of that too,
is like when he got to dude, there was in
the middle of COVID did like like there was all sorts.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Of practical practicing up parks. He was getting kicked out,
like he was he was knocking on doors trying to
fight playbooks for people.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Like everybody was stressed. It wasn't just Tom Brady, everybody.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
He saw that, like Byron Left, which is like next
door neighbor.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's a great point. The whole world was stressed out.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Everybody was like underwater and just overwhelmed with what was
going on. Like of course every like it was a
stressful time for everybody. We didn't know if a season
was gonna happen. We didn't know who was gonna play,
who wasn't gonna play, who was opting out?
Speaker 6 (14:32):
And so Tom didn't care about the virus bro. He
was like, I'm on a mission, like all you cats
out there who are worried massive whatever, I don't care.
I'm gonna go out there and ball, like you can
do whatever you want to do. I'm prepared to go
win a Super Bowl. And that dude did d through
a pandemic. Yeah, I don't. I mean we joke about
the NBA and the Bubble Boy Championship and all that.
(14:53):
There's somebody we said for, you know, enduring like the
Lakers did that year to be able to win it.
I mean, everyone's under the same conditions and they found
a way of winning. But you look at Tom Brady
in that instance, it's like all those stories And I
got some boys in Tampa two who are like, man,
that guy is on a mission. But he's not. He's
not trying to play around with anything like it's it's
all about going there and proving it. And he did.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Man, it was incredible and uh could have been Chicago.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Too, could have been. Well, we can get into that.
I mean, we've got time to tea up for you know, Lee,
do we have this?
Speaker 7 (15:26):
This?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
All right?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
So this was apparently why do you have to do
it now?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Why? Now?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
All right?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Do you want me to tease?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
All right?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
How good of a teas do you want?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Like a Grade A or like a Grade A plus?
Like what kind of teas you want?
Speaker 6 (15:39):
If you wanted me to be honest? All right? And
because I don't think you can throw a haymaker like
Tom Brady, I'm gonna say there's not really a big
difference between you know, your great A and here.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
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Speaker 6 (16:45):
For those out there listening. There's one person on this
show who grew up a diehard Chicago Bears fan, so
much so that he can still not forget the decision
that Lovey Smith once made before a preseason game and
deciding which quarterback it should beat a start by flipping
a coin to make that determination. This individual has been
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such a big Bears fan that he's now instilled in
his son the fact that he's got a root for
a team that I guess got a nice win yesterday,
but still it can't seem to figure it out and
evidence of that, well, it would have been that they
had the shot, they had a chance at getting the
goat the all time great Tom Brady Lee, please play
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the sound.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
There was a lot of reasons to choose Tampa, and
I made about eighteen criteria why and there was things
all the way from the salary obviously, to the weather,
the facilities, to the how great the players were. Ultimately
Chicago as a team, and I've never told that sort
of before. They were very still in their recruitment. I
was seriously consider but in the end it came down
to Tampa.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But it just just kind of throws that in there.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, I just didn't have enough to offer Tom Brady
to want I.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Mean, Jonas, would you have offered yourself up? I mean
you have done to help entice the offer to the Bears.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Like here's what's interesting about it is that the answer
would be yes, yeah, Well yet the way put the Browns.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
In there, Like at no point that he put my
Browns in there, Like it heard a little bit when
I heard the Bears was like wait what, I was like,
Browns had a pretty good roster, didn't they. I was like,
what never never cons played going there?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I wonder if it was the path.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I wonder if he looked at the NFC as maybe
being a you know, an easier path maybe. I mean,
the Bears were a playoff team that year, so and
that was with Trubisky, and you know, they ended up
losing to New Orleans in the playoff game. And then
it was the next week that I think Brady beat
Breeze in Breeze's final game, and that was part of
the you know them, you know, getting all the way
(18:40):
to cold blooded man.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I just.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
For his sake, I'm glad he didn't because what he
was able to do, the fact that I felt like
everything lined up the way it was supposed to be.
First of all, Tampa Bay was ready to go. Jameis Winston. Look,
it's not like he wasn't putting up numbers. He just
put up some of the wrong numbers. You know, he
threw thirty picks the year before. So they were there,
(19:06):
they were ready. They seem like they were ready to go.
He shows up in Tampa and ends up winning a
Super Bowl and it's in the middle of COVID and
they end up playing the Super Bowl at Raymond James.
So it just felt like everything lined up in the
stars line for him if he goes to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I just have zero faith.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That they would have figured out a way to either
build around him or figured out a way to let
him kind of take over and go in whatever direction
he wanted to go to. And had he done that,
who knows? I mean, you know, do him in Matt
NAGGI see eye to eye?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Do they? You know?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I think Bill Laser was the offensive coordinator there, Like,
how does that change how they go about things?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I just I'm happy for his sake that he.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Didn't go because their history at quarterback, they would have
figured out a way to screw it up somehow, someway.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
So, but that's kind of sad to hear, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Oh? I mean is what it is.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But I mean, like I just I wonder who else
was also part of the conversation though, Like obviously the
rain I've heard that story.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
I wonder what this was seventeen eighteen reasons? I mean,
there had to have been that for all the teams, right,
Like you've probably got a criteria of you know, you
mentioned salary, you mentioned you know, offense system, all kind
of stuff, which I'm sure people are gonna you know,
everyone's going to adapt to whatever he wants to run.
But he mentioned Bruce Arians, he mentioned, you know, a
bunch of reasons as to why in Tampa. But I
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also think it would have been equally as interesting to
hear why not. And we also we should give a
lot of credit to the Philadelphia Eagles. Reason being is
not to go back to my time calling games, but
when you're calling a blowout, this is the sort of
material that gets brought into the broadcast because the game's
(20:52):
so uncompetitive. So with Philly not showing up, this ultimately
allowed us to have this sort of content for today's show.
So thank you the Philadelphia, the Eagles, Uh, thank you
to Tampa maybe for for laying on the drumming and
everything that's come along with it.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, that is fair.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
They can they kind of, you know, led to this
whole discussion being had. By the way, did you notice
if you watch Brady talking about the teams he was
going to he was holding the actual note cards that
he had written down.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
We think they were I mean, they could have been
props to you know, you think so let me, I
don't know, I mean maybe maybe just El took on
and She's like, you're not I'm not letting the I'm
gonna take these settlements.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Oh, you're right, maybe I have value, do you guys?
I mean, what did you think of his performance? Because
there still continues to be like mixed mixed reviews or
mixed feelings about.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Oh, I don't care what anyone else thinks. I mean,
here's here's what I'll says. I think I think it
does a good job. I think he's, you know, new
at this, and he'll continue to settle in. And I think, honestly,
the path that he's taking is much better than how
things went with Tony Romo and CVS. I mean, it's
like everyone, oh my gosh, he's the great of all times.
And then and then like a few years later, now
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people are like, does he even watch football anymore? Can
can he stop stepping on nance? I mean, it's just
it's an entirely different build up. I think.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
I think he does fine. I think he does. I
enjoyed listening to some of the stories. I enjoy listening
to everything else.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And he's probably gonna get what game is he called
next week? I don't even know if they've they've announced
it yet, but.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
If you could vamp for me, I think I can
give you a good idea.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I also think look, he's four games into his broadcasting career.
He's trying to find his rhythm with all this stuff,
and he's had the Cowboys a bunch of times in
a row. Then he gets, you know, thrown back in
Tampa like he hasn't had a And I don't know
if this will ever happen because it's Brady Wow. Just
a normal, normal situation to call a game.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Can I give you guys a reason why they have
not announced? Probably what game he's calling next Week's an
awful sleep, just an awful slate. Here are the options.
Here are the options. This one could be enticing because
of what he said, and it might be a close game. Now, Uh,
the Carolina Panthers at the Chicago Bears, hmm, okay, could
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be one, the Browns at the Washington Commandos. You've got
the Dolphins at the New England Patriots. Not bad, which
probably makes the most sense, but you get what. Tyler
Huntley is starting tonight on Monday Night Football. Tool will
not be back for that matchup, and the Patriots, as
we saw yesterday, are not very good. Probably the one
(23:39):
of the better games I think, just because how this
division plays out, would be the Cardinals at San fran
And then finally you've got the Raiders at the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, it won't be that one.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Well, it would be interesting if it was only because
of the agreement formed.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, I would say Cardinals Niners is the best matchup.
But if they really want to squeeze more out of
a stick, you know, listen to when Tom Brady's calling games.
You never know what he's going to say. Then Panthers
Bears would make sense based on him.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
No, I mean because that story has been told now.
I think the more interesting one would be if you
went back to New England and he talks about some
stories from there. I think that would be one that
would be interesting. So I will say this about the games,
even though they don't look very enticing as far as
the juiciness of some of the matchups, you do have
really small spreads. I mean, the Broncos are giving two
at home to the Raiders, the Patriots are getting one
(24:36):
at home to the Dolphins. The forty nine Ers Cardinals
is the biggest spread. The Niners are given seven and
a half. The Commanders are laying three and a half
versus the Browns, Bears Land three and a half versus
the Panthers, so all fairly competitive, with the exception of
one game.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So and by the way, I would also like to
point this out, New England stinks and Miami you know
who knows who's going to be playing quarterback at that point. Uh,
that's probably the only way you would want to tune
in to watch this game is if Brady's on the
call back in New England. But that's going to be
another situation where he goes back to his old stomping
(25:13):
grounds and that because like he just hasn't really had
a normal broadcast yet to where he's just calling a game.
There's always a storyline or something attached to it. And
maybe that's just how it's going to be with him
moving forward. But that's why I'm reserving judgment until you
know he just is in the mix and just calling
a game as a broadcaster. And again, what he's done
(25:34):
so far, no, I'm fine with it, totally fine with it.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
So if you go through each week, I'm trying to think, like,
how competitive have any of the games been that he's
been calling Obviously Week one wasn't Week four wasn't Saints
coy I'm trying to go back through which games did
he call. He called Dallas for.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
The first three weeks, Yeah, Saints Cowboys was a blowout.
It was a blowout, and then that was week two
yeap and and then week three.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Also the storyline for that one, well, I think the
general point I mean really the Ravens blew out Dallas
until the very end of the game, when when the
Cowboys came back in the fourth quarter. Right. The point
of why I'm bringing that up is, you know, when
you when you have blowouts, you have to like tell
other stories. You have to try to find a way
of engaging the audience because the game is so bad
(26:23):
and it I don't want to say exposes you in
any way as a broadcaster, but those are the moments
where I would make the case that you really earn
your paycheck Outside of the big moments where you want
to be on point, Those moments are the ones where
you've got to have some additional analysis. You've got to
be able to provide more depth because you have time,
Like you know, in blowouts, you can kind of talk
over plays a little bit more, have more of a conversation,
(26:45):
tell stories, tell stuff you know about what's coming ahead.
Maybe in the incoming weeks you can have all those
those moments. Then when it's a tight game, no one
wants to hear that crap. People want to want to
hear you analyze the game, the situation, the decision making,
what's happened, why it happened, why it didn't, that's what
they want to hear. Then he really hasn't had that
opportunity because all the games he've called have been so
(27:10):
I guess, lacking any sort of competitiveness, maybe with the
exception of how things got at the end of that
Week three game with Dallas and Baltimore. So that's the
other part of like the when you asked about how
people referred to him or what critics are saying about him. LeVar,
it's hard when you're just calling blowouts, man, because the
other thing that naturally happens is when you're calling a game,
(27:33):
you know who thinks you stink. The team that's losing. Yeah,
they hate hearing the guy who's in the booth, that's
looking down, who's speaking reality into their life. They hate
realize like their team's losing and they're doing this today
or they're not doing this today, right, So they end
up being the ones that are most vocal. Much like
if you've got like online reviews, it's like anyone have
(27:53):
such a great experience that they're going online to give
a five star rating and write an entire paragraph review. No,
it's mostly people who feel like they're wrong. They go online,
give a crappy review, write a paragraph because now they
want to try to stick it to that person. So
it's typically how it works, at least in my mind.
And so on the flip side of it, people who
are like, oh, yeah, I think he called a pretty
good game, they're usually the team that like kick the
(28:15):
crap out of the other team, and they're not going
to like go to Twitter to'll be like, hey, I
thought he was awesome, So I don't know, I hope
he gets a more competitive game for his sake, I
guess in regards to the question about like when you
think about him as a broadcaster, but even this week,
like as far as they're pick tight spreads, I mean,
maybe it'll lead to a tight outcome in a better game.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
That's a bad lineup man, that's really like not good
games at all. That's a rough one, like well, look,
I mean hopefully everything everything turns out fine, and whatever
game he gets, he is a competitive game, and you know,
maybe he can, you know, kind of dazzle us at
that point in time. But if he's going to dazzle
(28:55):
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Speaker 2 (30:50):
Your sports weekend happens. So it's time to get the
fsr IR report.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
All right, Lee, All right, Lee, what happened to say College?
Speaker 9 (31:01):
Well, Saturday morning was a bit uh was a close call.
I was supposed to meet Var down at the lobby
at eleven o'clock. And you know how when you're at
a hotel room and they have like the power strip
on the lamp that you can plug it into. Well,
I turned off that lamp from the front door, so
my phone didn't charge all night, even though it was
(31:21):
plugged in. So I actually got woken up by room
service at eleven thirty saying, hey, you're gonna stay it
extra day. Why what time is it? It's eleven thirty,
So get my phone turned on. Call Var, who was
nice enough to not far was nice enough.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Far was good.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
He was reasonably upset, because as he should be reasonably
And then and then of course, I, you know, think
thankfully to practice, because.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
How old are you laying and you still can't wake
up on time? I mean that's like eight am Pacific, Yeah,
eleven am Eastern time. You should be able to get
your butt up. Yeah, but you should have been up.
I should have been up, been up.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
I had gotten up, and those like I get another nap.
I got my phone plugged in. We're good to go.
Alarm's gonna go off, chure enough, But anyway, I got
the job done. I ran across campus, got you, got
you on.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Air in time on times he did if you did so,
can I tell you I didn't know any of this
had happened. I just I was downstairs and I had
just gotten a coffee, and I turned and Lee is
running to the elevator, and like looked like he was
in a big hurry. And it's you know, eleven thirty
(32:33):
five or whatever time.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
It was more like only two possibilities more possibility there is,
So either he has to go to the bathroom or
he's got some professional obligation. It's only two options there.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
And I was assuming it was professional because he had
his bag, he was a like dressed, but like in
a real hurry, And I thought, well, no, I mean,
maybe he just came back from dropping the equipment off
at the football building because he was obviously gonna meet
LeVar downstairs at eleven. So I just didn't think anything
of it. And then I talked to Lee and he goes, well, yeah,
(33:06):
so you know, when did you get to the football building.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, a couple minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Wait what, he goes, Yeah, just you know, plugged in
my phone, didn't charge it. And so now it all
made sense because I'm pretty sure you cut off somebody
who was trying to get.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Onto the elevator.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
There wasn't a lot of room on the elevator when
you got on, and I think somebody else was maybe
trying to get on and you just skipped them.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Yeah, and I stank for the rest of the day
because there was no shower heads.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
And Joeys had to sit next to me on the plane,
So sorry about that, buddy.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
The plane was empty though, which is pretty sweet. There's
like nobody there on either playing back. But yeah, it's
and I will say this somehow, someway, even when there's
no traffic or issue at LAX, there's always an issue.
Because we had to take the flight. The airline we
took out there was different than the airline we took
on the way back, and so we had to get
(33:58):
on the terminal tram that was going to take us
over to the other one so we could get back
to the car and hop on one of the ladies like, yeah,
we're not operating right now, but wait what she goes, Yeah,
I'm done for the night.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So we had to go back and wait there, and
Lee kept getting on the wrong ones. So I kept
telling him like, no, Lee, not that one, not that one. No,
we're looking for the terminal connector not that one, and
he just kept walking onto the wrong ones. And then
finally they came, they showed up, they got us there,
but you know, we didn't end up leaving Lax till
what after one am one?
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Lee? Yes, percentage of time that you were drunk as
as soon as you landed in state college in Happy Valley.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
Well before I landed, and town until I left, so.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
So well, yeah, I mean you landed, you were already drunk,
so that you started there and work your bait, work
your way back from when you left.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
How many drinks did you have with me at the
bar that day before while we were waiting on Baby
Jonas to God, I think I.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
Think I did count as three or four islands, three
or four and then the and somebody came and got
patron shots, gave us, bought us patrol shots.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
So yeah, but the way that was after you yeah,
I give you my shot.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
That was after you had a bucket at pe Man's.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
That's right, and didn't have a bucket at and then
finished LeVar yeah shot.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
I wasn't messing with that shot.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Like he was in rare Form, he was putting it in.
He was putting it in American State College
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Speaker 1 (00:59):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Tom Brady on the call oh back in Tampa probably
thrilled did not have to do another Cowboys game, because
that's all he's gotten through his brief broadcasting career up
to this point. But he was on the call in
Tampa Bay yesterday for the dismantling of the Philadelphia Eagles
by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Just game wise, Tampa Bay
(01:23):
looked great, nice bounce back off whatever the hell that
was against Denver, and Philly just looked completely overwhelmed. They
too were banged up with injuries, but they don't look
like the same team that they were a couple of
years ago and even parts of last year. It seems
like something's off with them. But nonetheless, Tom Brady's on
the call. And this is not long after the comments
(01:48):
came out on the Casa de Clube podcast Corey Klueber's
podcast in which Baker Mayfield talked about, you know, guys
being stressed out when he got there, and you, Tom Brady,
you know, holding players accountable, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And so there was an opportunity during.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The broadcast for Brady to address those comments, and it
went like this quote.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
They wanted me to come in, be myself, bring the
joy back to football for guys.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Who weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's funny because you've made this environment for me very
stressful up here in the booths.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Like I understand where it's coming from.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Do you feel I know where stress well, I was
gonna say, I thought stressful was not having Super Bowl rings.
So there was a mindset of a champion that I
took to work every day.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
This wasn't daycare.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
If I wanted have fun, I was gonna go to
Disneyland with my kids.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
So you know, as you were saying, go ahead, let's
you feel like, I feel like there's more in there
to say.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
There's a way to approach this game.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah, and it's that with the with the right mindset
and try to push each other outside of our comfort zone.
And great teammates do that.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You come in.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
I have someone like Gronkowska, I have someone like Evans.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
There's high X expectations for us.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
We've got to make sure we go out there and deliver.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The competitive juice is still flowing, still in there.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Longdo apologies.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So that was Tom Brady's response to the comments from
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
You know, we talked about this when Baker Mayfield set
his portion of it, and I hear those comments from
Tom and I think the first thing I just say
is he's setting the tone where he's not going to
allow anyone if they want to take a shot at
him to take a shot at him. Now that he's
outside the realm of football where he can't let his
(03:36):
play do the talking for him. Now he gets to
talk and he doesn't have to be under the you know,
umbrella of Bill Belichick who didn't want him to be
the person that he's always been. And so now we're
getting an idea of what that is. A highly competitive
individual who strives to be the best at whatever he's doing.
And with that is going to come you know, some
(03:58):
some pushback. Ay times someone makes comments like that, that's
how he's wired, that's how he's geared. There's nothing wrong
with that, you know. I think this and it was
a lesson for Baker Mayfield the sense of and look,
I've been through it before and especially in media, like
I don't always say things the way I'd like to.
And I listened back and I'm like, Okay, could have
done this, could have said it this way, could have
(04:19):
you know, positioned it this way. But what Baker will
learn is, you know, the media always gets the last
laugh because they're the ones that are have the writing
the article last, saying whatever they get last. It's really hard,
you know, outside of just then going on Twitter after
you hear something like that to say something. That's why
I'd be shocked if he even responds to this, because
(04:40):
there isn't a response. This is the goat and you're
you're talking about the difference in environment between when he
was there when you were there, and there are some
elements of that that maybe there's some truth to it,
like people are walking on eggshells or people aren't stressful,
but whatever the case may be. But the difference is
because you're not Tom Brady, You're not the greatest of
(05:02):
all time. You're not in an organization where they brought
this guy in to win it. That was his whole
you know, he went through the note cards. I don't
know if you guys watched the game. He had the
note cards and wouldn't get to that, like one of
the teams that wasn't really reportedly a team that was
supposedly had a chance of getting him, but he mentioned it.
But he went through all the lists of things in
criteria that he think he had seventeen or eighteen different
(05:24):
things he was looking at and why he chose Tampa.
But when he got to Tampa, everyone knew what the
goal was. That was his goal. To go win a
Super Bowl. They did it year one right away, So
of course there's gonna be stress. Of course there's going
to be everything else that goes along with that, because
he's trying to hold everyone else up to the expectation
that he has built because of what he did before
(05:44):
he got there. You know, with Baker's entirely different feel.
You know, he's trying to prove himself. He's trying to
own over or win over that locker room to get
guys like LeVar to look at him and say like, yeah,
I need you to believe in me. With if Tom
Brady comes on Levar's two, is there any question you
believe in Tom LeVar? No, No, I mean if Tom
(06:05):
looks at the defense says jump, everyone's gonna jump because
he had that, He had that equity already built up
before he got there. With Baker, everyone's gonna look at
him funny, like, what the hell you talking about? Man,
Let's go play some football first before you can figure
things out.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, there was a reason why he jumped out there
like that, because it was unwornant to put himself in
in that way. He doesn't compare to Tom Brady. It
almost makes me feel like the reasoning behind it was
he felt like he needed to say it. And if
if I'm looking at it from the standpoint, Baker Mayfield
(06:43):
jumped in front of a mac truck because he felt
like he needed to do it. I wonder who was
who was gassing him up in the organization to do so,
because that seems like the type of dude Baker Mayfield is, like,
he's a he's a team guy. He you know, his
guys are or his guys or whatever. It could have
been a coach that was feed named that.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I don't know, but it just seems like it was.
It didn't come like it was unsolicited, Like it wasn't
just that wasn't just a random shot fired at Tom Brady.
And I just wonder why he saw it fit to
put that out there, you know, that would be my
(07:25):
biggest question and all of this was or would be,
why did Baker Mayfield feel it necessary to make that statement,
in particular as it applied to his being in Tampa Bay,
knowing that this was an opportunity for him to kind
of rebound from what didn't happen for him in Cleveland.
(07:47):
It just doesn't seem like you would want to kind
of upset, you know, or disrupt in that way. For
if there's really no purpose, would be no reason outside
of if he were doing and I can't. I think
you kind of touched on a little bit Q in
terms of was he doing this so that he could
be accepted, so that it could be like, oh, he
(08:08):
stood up to Tom like we could follow him, like
he's he's a leader. Whatever it may have been, something
spurned him or something made him put that put him out,
put that out there, or made him think that he
needed to put that out there.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So Baker Mayfield was asked about this after the game.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
A lot of that got taken out of context, and
none of it was personal by any means. It's just,
you know, what he demanded of the guys, and that's
that's the aura of Tom Brady and that's what he
did to bring a championship here and so nothing personal.
But yeah, talking before the game, he's obviously happy for me,
and he knows the guys, so he knows how much
(08:48):
I enjoyed throwing to Mike and Chris because he got
to do the same. And so it's fun to be
able to, you know, talk about the same experiences with
the guy like that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So here's what I wonder when Brady makes those comment
and c he does during the broadcast yesterday. Were those
comments directed at Baker Mayfield or maybe somebody else. I
don't but he's saying it from the words of somebody
else who was there when Tom Brady was there. And
(09:17):
I wonder if that was Brady chirping back at whoever
went to Baker Mayfield and said, we were really stressed
out and there was this, this and this and all
this other stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
That was going on.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I wonder how much of that was really aimed
towards Baker or maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But it could have been like a GM, it could
have been a scout, it could it could have been
anyone who said it. But I think that whoever had
this conversation or multiple conversations with Baker Mayfield, it made
Baker Mayfield feel as though he needed to address it.
And that is a personal like. I don't understand how
sometimes people say things like that's not sensible.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
That is I think the anything that you know, when
you say it gets taken out of context. It's like, well,
all right, let's go back and listen because this has
happened to me. Man. I mean to this day, people
would be like, hey man, you weren't high on CJ. Stroud.
I go, what are you talking about? And like we
said something before the draft, and this is how you know.
People just don't listen, They don't read, they don't ever
(10:19):
look at anything and look at it. I said, what
do you mean? Because because I said that he had
skipped in the Manning Academy and told what I was
told by a very reliable source, that's all I said.
I said, I thought he was going to go number
two in the draft, right behind Bryce Young. I said,
the kid was amazing during his entire career and dealing
with him in Ohio State and everything else. But people
don't listen to stuff. So in this case, you know,
(10:41):
we get the clip of what Baker Mayfield had said.
We don't know what the question was coming off of that,
with the conversation was coming off of that. I mean,
I just echoed the sentiment of when Peyton Manning was
in Denver and I was in Kansas City talked to
some guys that played for the Broncos and they talked
about the difference of what it was like with Peyton,
because I was curious. I was like, what's he like?
(11:01):
You know, what kind of stuff it does he do?
Or you know, how how's the environment different, like what
a meeting's like. I was curious. Could have signed back there.
In a lot of ways, those probably one of the
biggest mistakes I made my professional career was not signing
back in Denver to just see how Peydon Manning operated,
see how he did things. You know, I never had
that opportunity to learn from someone like that, and then
(11:22):
especially like an all time you know, Hall of Famer,
all time great. So you know, the hard thing is,
I don't know what the entire conversation was before he
made those comments. You know, is there some truth to
the environment being more stressful with Tom? They're probably yeah.
But that's what comes again with a guy who would
won six Super Bowls at that point, a guy who'd
already been determined and considered the greatest of all time,
(11:44):
and look at the run that they had during those
two decades. So look, he made a mistake in the
way he went about presenting it. I've been there, I've
done that. Surely, not gonna condemn someone for something like this,
I'm sure he'll learn from it. But more than anything
else else. To your initial question, Jonas, I said, it's
a tone setting comment, tone setting for everyone. Like it
(12:05):
doesn't matter if it was Baker's comments or someone within
the organization. I think Tom Brady setting the tone like, Okay,
you you want to say something, Okay, I'm gonna go
on national television and because I'm gonna have time to
prepare what i want to say and how i want
to say it, and I'm gonna throw an absolute overhand
right like Mike Tyson and his Heyday, and I'm gonna
(12:26):
knock you out, and I'm gonna knock out the next person,
the next person. So if that's what you want to
step two, good luck because I'll have the time and platform.
I mean, notice how KB teed him up again for
an on camera shot. You have more more like That's
that's what like, Just so people understand how games work,
(12:47):
you don't come on camera as an analyst and a
play by play unless it's the open at a halftime,
end of the game, or there's a break where it
warrants that that wasn't really like a break, that was
them interjecting what Tom wanted to say at that moment,
to make sure his message was sent very clear to
(13:10):
everybody out there listening, knowing that this would get picked
up and this will get discussed. So it's not just
Tom even too setting the tone. This is Fox Sports,
this is you know, KB and everyone else behind the scenes,
who's who's producing. Like they're all saying like, all right,
you want to take shots at our guy, Like we're
gonna provide him every opportunity to go one hundred on
(13:33):
your ass.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I was underestimating how much you would address it. I
thought maybe he'd make like a swipe or some sort
of comment like, oh, you know, I just hope they're
not as stressed out or something along those lines. But
the fact that he was teed up there was a presentation.
I was like, Wow, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You could hear it in his voice and see it
in him like, oh yeah, you can see it.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And by the way, the other part of that too,
is like when he got to dude, there was in
the middle of COVID did like like there was all sorts.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Of practical practicing up parks. He was getting kicked out,
like he was he was knocking on doors trying to
fight playbooks for people.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Like everybody was stressed. It wasn't just Tom Brady, everybody.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
He saw that, like Byron Left, which is like next
door neighbor.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's a great point. The whole world was stressed out.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Everybody was like underwater and just overwhelmed with what was
going on. Like of course every like it was a
stressful time for everybody. We didn't know if a season
was gonna happen. We didn't know who was gonna play,
who wasn't gonna play, who was opting out?
Speaker 6 (14:32):
And so Tom didn't care about the virus bro. He
was like, I'm on a mission, like all you cats
out there who are worried massive whatever, I don't care.
I'm gonna go out there and ball, like you can
do whatever you want to do. I'm prepared to go
win a Super Bowl. And that dude did d through
a pandemic. Yeah, I don't. I mean we joke about
the NBA and the Bubble Boy Championship and all that.
(14:53):
There's somebody we said for, you know, enduring like the
Lakers did that year to be able to win it.
I mean, everyone's under the same conditions and they found
a way of winning. But you look at Tom Brady
in that instance, it's like all those stories And I
got some boys in Tampa two who are like, man,
that guy is on a mission. But he's not. He's
not trying to play around with anything like it's it's
all about going there and proving it. And he did.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Man, it was incredible and uh could have been Chicago.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Too, could have been. Well, we can get into that.
I mean, we've got time to tea up for you know, Lee,
do we have this?
Speaker 7 (15:26):
This?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
All right?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
So this was apparently why do you have to do
it now?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Why? Now?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
All right?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Do you want me to tease?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
All right?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
How good of a teas do you want?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Like a Grade A or like a Grade A plus?
Like what kind of teas you want?
Speaker 6 (15:39):
If you wanted me to be honest? All right? And
because I don't think you can throw a haymaker like
Tom Brady, I'm gonna say there's not really a big
difference between you know, your great A and here.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
So it's all it is two pros and a cup
of joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady, Quinn,
Jonas KNOXA do you coming up next?
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Here?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
From the ti Raq Dot Com Studios. A move that
nearly happened in the NFL that would have changed everything
you know about the quarterback position?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
That was? That wasn't that a plus? All?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
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Speaker 6 (16:14):
Three? Two one?
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Coming up next here from the tirak dot com Studios,
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You've got to hear it to believe it. That's next.
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Speaker 6 (16:45):
For those out there listening. There's one person on this
show who grew up a diehard Chicago Bears fan, so
much so that he can still not forget the decision
that Lovey Smith once made before a preseason game and
deciding which quarterback it should beat a start by flipping
a coin to make that determination. This individual has been
(17:06):
such a big Bears fan that he's now instilled in
his son the fact that he's got a root for
a team that I guess got a nice win yesterday,
but still it can't seem to figure it out and
evidence of that, well, it would have been that they
had the shot, they had a chance at getting the
goat the all time great Tom Brady Lee, please play
(17:27):
the sound.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
There was a lot of reasons to choose Tampa, and
I made about eighteen criteria why and there was things
all the way from the salary obviously, to the weather,
the facilities, to the how great the players were. Ultimately
Chicago as a team, and I've never told that sort
of before. They were very still in their recruitment. I
was seriously consider but in the end it came down
to Tampa.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But it just just kind of throws that in there.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, I just didn't have enough to offer Tom Brady
to want I.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Mean, Jonas, would you have offered yourself up? I mean
you have done to help entice the offer to the Bears.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Like here's what's interesting about it is that the answer
would be yes, yeah, Well yet the way put the Browns.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
In there, Like at no point that he put my
Browns in there, Like it heard a little bit when
I heard the Bears was like wait what, I was like,
Browns had a pretty good roster, didn't they. I was like,
what never never cons played going there?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I wonder if it was the path.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I wonder if he looked at the NFC as maybe
being a you know, an easier path maybe. I mean,
the Bears were a playoff team that year, so and
that was with Trubisky, and you know, they ended up
losing to New Orleans in the playoff game. And then
it was the next week that I think Brady beat
Breeze in Breeze's final game, and that was part of
the you know them, you know, getting all the way
(18:40):
to cold blooded man.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I just.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
For his sake, I'm glad he didn't because what he
was able to do, the fact that I felt like
everything lined up the way it was supposed to be.
First of all, Tampa Bay was ready to go. Jameis Winston. Look,
it's not like he wasn't putting up numbers. He just
put up some of the wrong numbers. You know, he
threw thirty picks the year before. So they were there,
(19:06):
they were ready. They seem like they were ready to go.
He shows up in Tampa and ends up winning a
Super Bowl and it's in the middle of COVID and
they end up playing the Super Bowl at Raymond James.
So it just felt like everything lined up in the
stars line for him if he goes to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I just have zero faith.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That they would have figured out a way to either
build around him or figured out a way to let
him kind of take over and go in whatever direction
he wanted to go to. And had he done that,
who knows? I mean, you know, do him in Matt
NAGGI see eye to eye?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Do they? You know?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I think Bill Laser was the offensive coordinator there, Like,
how does that change how they go about things?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I just I'm happy for his sake that he.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Didn't go because their history at quarterback, they would have
figured out a way to screw it up somehow, someway.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
So, but that's kind of sad to hear, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Oh? I mean is what it is.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But I mean, like I just I wonder who else
was also part of the conversation though, Like obviously the
rain I've heard that story.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
I wonder what this was seventeen eighteen reasons? I mean,
there had to have been that for all the teams, right,
Like you've probably got a criteria of you know, you
mentioned salary, you mentioned you know, offense system, all kind
of stuff, which I'm sure people are gonna you know,
everyone's going to adapt to whatever he wants to run.
But he mentioned Bruce Arians, he mentioned, you know, a
bunch of reasons as to why in Tampa. But I
(20:32):
also think it would have been equally as interesting to
hear why not. And we also we should give a
lot of credit to the Philadelphia Eagles. Reason being is
not to go back to my time calling games, but
when you're calling a blowout, this is the sort of
material that gets brought into the broadcast because the game's
(20:52):
so uncompetitive. So with Philly not showing up, this ultimately
allowed us to have this sort of content for today's show.
So thank you the Philadelphia, the Eagles, Uh, thank you
to Tampa maybe for for laying on the drumming and
everything that's come along with it.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, that is fair.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
They can they kind of, you know, led to this
whole discussion being had. By the way, did you notice
if you watch Brady talking about the teams he was
going to he was holding the actual note cards that
he had written down.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
We think they were I mean, they could have been
props to you know, you think so let me, I
don't know, I mean maybe maybe just El took on
and She's like, you're not I'm not letting the I'm
gonna take these settlements.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Oh, you're right, maybe I have value, do you guys?
I mean, what did you think of his performance? Because
there still continues to be like mixed mixed reviews or
mixed feelings about.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Oh, I don't care what anyone else thinks. I mean,
here's here's what I'll says. I think I think it
does a good job. I think he's, you know, new
at this, and he'll continue to settle in. And I think, honestly,
the path that he's taking is much better than how
things went with Tony Romo and CVS. I mean, it's
like everyone, oh my gosh, he's the great of all times.
And then and then like a few years later, now
(22:02):
people are like, does he even watch football anymore? Can
can he stop stepping on nance? I mean, it's just
it's an entirely different build up. I think.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
I think he does fine. I think he does. I
enjoyed listening to some of the stories. I enjoy listening
to everything else.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And he's probably gonna get what game is he called
next week? I don't even know if they've they've announced
it yet, but.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
If you could vamp for me, I think I can
give you a good idea.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I also think look, he's four games into his broadcasting career.
He's trying to find his rhythm with all this stuff,
and he's had the Cowboys a bunch of times in
a row. Then he gets, you know, thrown back in
Tampa like he hasn't had a And I don't know
if this will ever happen because it's Brady Wow. Just
a normal, normal situation to call a game.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Can I give you guys a reason why they have
not announced? Probably what game he's calling next Week's an
awful sleep, just an awful slate. Here are the options.
Here are the options. This one could be enticing because
of what he said, and it might be a close game. Now, Uh,
the Carolina Panthers at the Chicago Bears, hmm, okay, could
(23:15):
be one, the Browns at the Washington Commandos. You've got
the Dolphins at the New England Patriots. Not bad, which
probably makes the most sense, but you get what. Tyler
Huntley is starting tonight on Monday Night Football. Tool will
not be back for that matchup, and the Patriots, as
we saw yesterday, are not very good. Probably the one
(23:39):
of the better games I think, just because how this
division plays out, would be the Cardinals at San fran
And then finally you've got the Raiders at the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, it won't be that one.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Well, it would be interesting if it was only because
of the agreement formed.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, I would say Cardinals Niners is the best matchup.
But if they really want to squeeze more out of
a stick, you know, listen to when Tom Brady's calling games.
You never know what he's going to say. Then Panthers
Bears would make sense based on him.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
No, I mean because that story has been told now.
I think the more interesting one would be if you
went back to New England and he talks about some
stories from there. I think that would be one that
would be interesting. So I will say this about the games,
even though they don't look very enticing as far as
the juiciness of some of the matchups, you do have
really small spreads. I mean, the Broncos are giving two
at home to the Raiders, the Patriots are getting one
(24:36):
at home to the Dolphins. The forty nine Ers Cardinals
is the biggest spread. The Niners are given seven and
a half. The Commanders are laying three and a half
versus the Browns, Bears Land three and a half versus
the Panthers, so all fairly competitive, with the exception of
one game.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So and by the way, I would also like to
point this out, New England stinks and Miami you know
who knows who's going to be playing quarterback at that point. Uh,
that's probably the only way you would want to tune
in to watch this game is if Brady's on the
call back in New England. But that's going to be
another situation where he goes back to his old stomping
(25:13):
grounds and that because like he just hasn't really had
a normal broadcast yet to where he's just calling a game.
There's always a storyline or something attached to it. And
maybe that's just how it's going to be with him
moving forward. But that's why I'm reserving judgment until you
know he just is in the mix and just calling
a game as a broadcaster. And again, what he's done
(25:34):
so far, no, I'm fine with it, totally fine with it.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
So if you go through each week, I'm trying to think, like,
how competitive have any of the games been that he's
been calling Obviously Week one wasn't Week four wasn't Saints
coy I'm trying to go back through which games did
he call. He called Dallas for.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
The first three weeks, Yeah, Saints Cowboys was a blowout.
It was a blowout, and then that was week two
yeap and and then week three.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Also the storyline for that one, well, I think the
general point I mean really the Ravens blew out Dallas
until the very end of the game, when when the
Cowboys came back in the fourth quarter. Right. The point
of why I'm bringing that up is, you know, when
you when you have blowouts, you have to like tell
other stories. You have to try to find a way
of engaging the audience because the game is so bad
(26:23):
and it I don't want to say exposes you in
any way as a broadcaster, but those are the moments
where I would make the case that you really earn
your paycheck Outside of the big moments where you want
to be on point, Those moments are the ones where
you've got to have some additional analysis. You've got to
be able to provide more depth because you have time,
Like you know, in blowouts, you can kind of talk
over plays a little bit more, have more of a conversation,
(26:45):
tell stories, tell stuff you know about what's coming ahead.
Maybe in the incoming weeks you can have all those
those moments. Then when it's a tight game, no one
wants to hear that crap. People want to want to
hear you analyze the game, the situation, the decision making,
what's happened, why it happened, why it didn't, that's what
they want to hear. Then he really hasn't had that
opportunity because all the games he've called have been so
(27:10):
I guess, lacking any sort of competitiveness, maybe with the
exception of how things got at the end of that
Week three game with Dallas and Baltimore. So that's the
other part of like the when you asked about how
people referred to him or what critics are saying about him. LeVar,
it's hard when you're just calling blowouts, man, because the
other thing that naturally happens is when you're calling a game,
(27:33):
you know who thinks you stink. The team that's losing. Yeah,
they hate hearing the guy who's in the booth, that's
looking down, who's speaking reality into their life. They hate
realize like their team's losing and they're doing this today
or they're not doing this today, right, So they end
up being the ones that are most vocal. Much like
if you've got like online reviews, it's like anyone have
(27:53):
such a great experience that they're going online to give
a five star rating and write an entire paragraph review. No,
it's mostly people who feel like they're wrong. They go online,
give a crappy review, write a paragraph because now they
want to try to stick it to that person. So
it's typically how it works, at least in my mind.
And so on the flip side of it, people who
are like, oh, yeah, I think he called a pretty
good game, they're usually the team that like kick the
(28:15):
crap out of the other team, and they're not going
to like go to Twitter to'll be like, hey, I
thought he was awesome, So I don't know, I hope
he gets a more competitive game for his sake, I
guess in regards to the question about like when you
think about him as a broadcaster, but even this week,
like as far as they're pick tight spreads, I mean,
maybe it'll lead to a tight outcome in a better game.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
That's a bad lineup man, that's really like not good
games at all. That's a rough one, like well, look,
I mean hopefully everything everything turns out fine, and whatever
game he gets, he is a competitive game, and you know,
maybe he can, you know, kind of dazzle us at
that point in time. But if he's going to dazzle
(28:55):
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Speaker 4 (29:42):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
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a Monday tradition. We've got an FSRIR. We report any issues, injuries,
ailments from a long weekend and it's all yours right
here next on Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Radio, be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros
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Speaker 3 (30:10):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up top next hour a little over ten minutes from now.
Was a long weekend, a wild weekend in the world
of college football. We had boots on the ground all
over it, and we'll have the details on that for
you again, coming up here a little over ten minutes
from now.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
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Speaker 3 (30:32):
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Speaker 2 (30:50):
Your sports weekend happens. So it's time to get the
fsr IR report.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
All right, Lee, All right, Lee, what happened to say College?
Speaker 9 (31:01):
Well, Saturday morning was a bit uh was a close call.
I was supposed to meet Var down at the lobby
at eleven o'clock. And you know how when you're at
a hotel room and they have like the power strip
on the lamp that you can plug it into. Well,
I turned off that lamp from the front door, so
my phone didn't charge all night, even though it was
(31:21):
plugged in. So I actually got woken up by room
service at eleven thirty saying, hey, you're gonna stay it
extra day. Why what time is it? It's eleven thirty,
So get my phone turned on. Call Var, who was
nice enough to not far was nice enough.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Far was good.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
He was reasonably upset, because as he should be reasonably
And then and then of course, I, you know, think
thankfully to practice, because.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
How old are you laying and you still can't wake
up on time? I mean that's like eight am Pacific, Yeah,
eleven am Eastern time. You should be able to get
your butt up. Yeah, but you should have been up.
I should have been up, been up.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
I had gotten up, and those like I get another nap.
I got my phone plugged in. We're good to go.
Alarm's gonna go off, chure enough, But anyway, I got
the job done. I ran across campus, got you, got
you on.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Air in time on times he did if you did so,
can I tell you I didn't know any of this
had happened. I just I was downstairs and I had
just gotten a coffee, and I turned and Lee is
running to the elevator, and like looked like he was
in a big hurry. And it's you know, eleven thirty
(32:33):
five or whatever time.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
It was more like only two possibilities more possibility there is,
So either he has to go to the bathroom or
he's got some professional obligation. It's only two options there.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
And I was assuming it was professional because he had
his bag, he was a like dressed, but like in
a real hurry, And I thought, well, no, I mean,
maybe he just came back from dropping the equipment off
at the football building because he was obviously gonna meet
LeVar downstairs at eleven. So I just didn't think anything
of it. And then I talked to Lee and he goes, well, yeah,
(33:06):
so you know, when did you get to the football building.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, a couple minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Wait what, he goes, Yeah, just you know, plugged in
my phone, didn't charge it. And so now it all
made sense because I'm pretty sure you cut off somebody
who was trying to get.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Onto the elevator.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
There wasn't a lot of room on the elevator when
you got on, and I think somebody else was maybe
trying to get on and you just skipped them.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Yeah, and I stank for the rest of the day
because there was no shower heads.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
And Joeys had to sit next to me on the plane,
So sorry about that, buddy.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
The plane was empty though, which is pretty sweet. There's
like nobody there on either playing back. But yeah, it's
and I will say this somehow, someway, even when there's
no traffic or issue at LAX, there's always an issue.
Because we had to take the flight. The airline we
took out there was different than the airline we took
on the way back, and so we had to get
(33:58):
on the terminal tram that was going to take us
over to the other one so we could get back
to the car and hop on one of the ladies like, yeah,
we're not operating right now, but wait what she goes, Yeah,
I'm done for the night.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So we had to go back and wait there, and
Lee kept getting on the wrong ones. So I kept
telling him like, no, Lee, not that one, not that one. No,
we're looking for the terminal connector not that one, and
he just kept walking onto the wrong ones. And then
finally they came, they showed up, they got us there,
but you know, we didn't end up leaving Lax till
what after one am one?
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Lee? Yes, percentage of time that you were drunk as
as soon as you landed in state college in Happy Valley.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
Well before I landed, and town until I left, so.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
So well, yeah, I mean you landed, you were already drunk,
so that you started there and work your bait, work
your way back from when you left.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
How many drinks did you have with me at the
bar that day before while we were waiting on Baby
Jonas to God, I think I.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
Think I did count as three or four islands, three
or four and then the and somebody came and got
patron shots, gave us, bought us patrol shots.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
So yeah, but the way that was after you yeah,
I give you my shot.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
That was after you had a bucket at pe Man's.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
That's right, and didn't have a bucket at and then
finished LeVar yeah shot.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
I wasn't messing with that shot.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Like he was in rare Form, he was putting it in.
He was putting it in American State College
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