November 12, 2024 • 38 mins
The Bears are asking too much of Caleb Williams and setting him up for failure. The latest edition of the BQ Playoff Prediction. Plus, the decision to stick with Joe Flacco doesn’t bode well for Anthony Richardson.
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about just some of the bad quarterback play or bad
play in general.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Or bad decision making. Buy a quarterback. Yeah it has
a head injury. Yeah there's a head injury away.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Hey, you know what though? What TUIs Hawaiian man? They
don't play that no toughs.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yes, they're gonna like he's gonna get down and try
and make a play if he needs to make.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Who said it wasn't You're cute? I said the tackle
on the inner? Was that you? If it was a
great point? It was me?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I just I mean, why would you? I don't know, man,
it's just a matter of win. I'm just telling y'all,
it's a matter of win. Yeah, you're gonna stick your
head in there to try to make a tackle on
an interception. That's I couldn't remember what the play was
where he got hit in the hit, but that that
was it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That was the one. Bring it right on in there.
Maybe he would do something like that. I don't know.
That probably was would you?
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I mean, at that point in time, you're in such
a fit of rage from throwing an interception, you really
don't see straight.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
You're like, ah, I'm gonna get this card. And you're like,
oh man, I'm in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
These guys are way bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic
than I am.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Ah damn gosh. So that's where you have to go
for like just anything.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Try to go for the ball, try to just go
low and hopefully you could knock someone down.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's bad, man, knock yourself out while you're doing it.
I just I don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
I mean, at least you're trying. No somewhere they just
throw it and.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
They just looking to go, oh oh Eli used to
be and Eli's faces that he made when he did,
and you know what, good for him live to fight
another day.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
There's a certain there's a few if they went and
did it, like all right, I'm like, yeah, he could
do that. You know, there's some guys they could go
make a play because you just know they could go
make that play. They built for it. But most of
you guys, y, I ain't built to get hit to
begin with. Why you're gonna go try to make a
hit in that situation. Just walk your ass just like
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the punter, Just like the kicker. Walk your ass off
that field. We don't need you there. We don't need
you there. Sorry. I don't give a damn if they
score six points. It's only six points. I don't need
my QB getting knocked the hell out because he made
an interception. Don't need it, sorry, somebody else needed to
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make the play. You fed it up. Yeah, that's true,
but we'll get it back. I don't need you doing it.
Real talk, especially if you're to a tongue of a loa.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What you're doing, doc?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I mean the first they got to say it to
me when he came off, Like if I'm if anybody
out there that gives a damn about their team gives
a damn about him? What you're doing, bro? How of devoting?
Hey Deebo Samuel, we grab you by your deck? Hey man,
you want to get knocked out, let's go over here.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I knock you out by the way. Do you think
do you think I remember his name? Who's the long
snapper for the Niners.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
He did not like it?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, do you think what pissed.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Deebo off was that he made a comment about Deebo's
pregame outfit out of the stadium.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He shouldn't have walked into the stadium like that. I mean,
people gonna try.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
You can come walking in the stadium wearing bike shorts
of the leather jacket.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's not the outfit that made it so bad. It
was the walk. I'm sorry, Deebo. You you want to like,
don't walk in like that.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Describe the walk.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I can't describe it.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
It wasn't more of like a like a walk a
little bit of a limp.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And no was very Yeah, it was zety.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
It was a zesty walk.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Look it up. I don't know, I mean, look it up,
like what do you look it up?
Speaker 6 (05:19):
What are you getting at?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They're gonna try you.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
When you say, well, they're gonna try you, They're gonna
they're gonna see if you about it about that life.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Who's you know.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Some cats in the serengetti. They're gonna be hunting you
down a little differently. It's a different SETI yeah, well
maybe it's not. It's full of lions, tigers and bears.
I'm just saying he shouldn't have made his walk like that.
That's all I say, walking like Deebo Samuel bro don't
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don't switch your walk up because you switched your fitt up.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He had a man purse too. By the way, I'm
just saying, I'm not hating on him. I'm just saying, like,
if no respect for one of the great game costs
in the NFL, you know, well, maybe that explains it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
What's that just to me that teams Bowl eligible right now?
They're in the top twenty five.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Buddy, they got a couple losses too that easily could
have went the other way.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, I mean they could.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Be one football team right now, for being honest.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They could. So.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
By the way, we are going to have the BQ
Playoff Ranking predictor coming up here shortly on FSR.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
But we should get into this discussion here.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Definitely, let's get into it. The Chicago Bears are a
bad football team. They are not good and it's more
than just the quarterback. It's a lot of stuff that's
happening there. And so everybody's expecting are what are the changes?
Is there going to be firings? Are people going to
be like, like, what, what's the change that's going to
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happen in Chicago. The head coach Matt Eberflu spoke about
that yesterday and also about you know, whether or not
they're going to stick with Caleb Williams despite all the
struggles just in the.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
In the process of getting that done, there will be changes,
adjustments being made. Again, I'm not going to disclose those
right now. I'm not at that point in the process.
You know, Monday is a long day in terms of
the evaluation. It's important that we take time to make
sure to make those decisions and make the right decisions
that's for the Bears, best for the Bears going forward
for this week and then going into the future. So
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I think that's the most important thing that we do
that we have some steadiness here.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Now you make a change of quarterback, No.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Caleb is our starter.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You know.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
The processes is. You know, we've played some really good football.
We've played complementary football during the course of the year.
You know, we won some games in a row. So
there is evidence on tape that we've had togetherness, complementary football,
played winning football. And for you to sit there and
say that we haven't done that, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So that is the the latest.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Have done enough of that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I mean, that's real.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Let me ask you this question because as I was
like scroll through X, this came up and I thought, oh,
I'm gonna ask the boys about this. So who is
the comp for Caleb Williams when he was getting drafted
ever ready to.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Come in the NFL?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Mahomes right, And someone made the comment that, well, I
guess we know what it would have been like had
Patrick Mahomes come to the Bears, because that was the
frustration from a lot of Bears fans was instead they
wanted Mitchell Trubisky and number two overall that's so dope.
And so the comment they're making is that, well, I
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guess it wouldn't have mattered and it would have been
any better because this is supposed to be the second
coming and look where we look what we're doing with
him in his rookie year, and this organization is so
bad that they wouldn't know what to do with the
Patrick Mahomes even if you fell.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
In their lap.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well there you go, and and and but you're you're
a bust, so you can't say it, right.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's that's what they'll say.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You're just scruntled because you weren't you weren't Tom Brady.
You can't say that you're upset the moment somebody says
what you just said, if they're smart enough, if they're
actually if you're a Bears fan and you're humble enough,
or you're you're aware enough to actually comprehend what Q
just said. It is what it is like if you
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go to a certain places you are destined to be.
What the environment is that you're in. That's the bottom line.
That's the bottom line, especially at a development position. If Caleb,
if Caleb Williams goes to Kansas City and has the
same process that takes place with the coaching staff and
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that organization, does Caleb Williams end up being the person
that everybody's saying, here's the cop, here's the cop, here's
the comp maybe even better and maybe even better because
Caleb Williams might be better coming out of college and
what Patrick Mahomes was like.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That's the part that it blows my mind that people
can't figure out that situation and environment dictates.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
A lot, it dictates everything.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That's why the term broken home is a real terms.
It's a real term, like if you come from that environment,
like there's a lot going on there. It doesn't mean
that that you know that you're just going to be
isolated and they're going to talk about just you as
a person. No, they're going to factor in all those
other things around you, be like, okay, let's cut them
some slack here, and the idea that we're just going
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to say, well, you just insert player X here and
tmx here and then this is out what no man
like situation dictates success in the NFL. You remember when
the Browns were getting bare, Like people were ripping the
Browns apart because they were like, oh my god, they
passed on Carson Wentz and he went to Philly and
look what he did early in his career. It's like, man,
do you know the situation he had in Philly as
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opposed to what he went had in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
You remember when Aaron Rodgers was just getting an MVP
of the league and then had a pretty decent year
the last year he was there, and then went to
a different team and that was a dysfunctional team, and
then he realized that, whoa wait, I'm playing for a
dysfunctional team. And then you started seeing how Aaron Rodgers played,
and then we started thinking about, well, maybe Aaron Rodgers
(11:15):
is old. Maybe maybe Aaron Rodgers doesn't have it anymore.
You remember that, you remember when that happened.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You know why. Because the environment that he went in
is not.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Conducive to the scale level of any player, including Aaron Rodgers.
It will not outperform dysfunctioned.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
It will not so like here's the part, and I
want to ask you guys this because this is what
it looks like to me. But obviously you guys would
know better than I would. And Brady, you would know
because you actually played the position. It looks like to
me in watching Caleb Williams that they're either asking him
to do too much or he's trying.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
To do too much, or it could be both.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I don't see any other rookie quarterback that's checking in
and out of certain plays at the line of scrimmage that's,
you know, struggling to get plays in because of all
the It feels like it's information overload and he's overwhelmed
by it. But he's missing throws like he can't. They
can't keep him upright, he's taking sacks like. You can
blame the nine sacks on the offensive line all you want.
(12:17):
There was a handful of those that were on him,
Like I just look at it and I go, it
feels like it's there's too much going on, and he
feels completely overwhelmed at this point and we're halfway through
the season.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
There's a few issues that I see in watching his film,
and the first is that he's relying too much on
trying to create at times. And I've said it before,
you know, not take these you want to try to
go downfield, you know, as the season's worn on, that
was kind of my early, like initial impression of him.
But as the season's worn on now I see at
times he looks hesitant. It's almost like he doesn't want
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to make a mistake or he doesn't want to, you know,
put his team in a bad spot, almost like they're
coaching him to be conservative at times with how he's played.
And so as far as the beginning to plays in
and out that that falls on two people. That's gonna
be on Shane Waldron and really Caleb and I don't know,
you know, as far as the play calling process from
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Shane from the sidelines and the helmet, how they're going
about doing it, there's ways of speeding it up. I've
always said to people, everyone looks at a wristband as
a negative because like, well, what is the going new
to riskby that's so so college. So it's like, well, no,
it's actually faster. So instead of me saying zero slash
sixty six double seem snow alert forty, I just go
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play two and then he says zero slaws his six
double seem snow alert forty. And so in that you're
sitting there going to yourself, Okay, if I had to
say that play twice, clearly it takes longer. And the
other thing about that is if you're on the road
and there's some crowd noise and you're trying to cover
up your helmet and you're saying, hey, say it again,
say it again, and then you have to say in
the huddle, then other guy's asking you to say it again.
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There's a lot of things that happen in the course
of an NFL huddle and that whole operation that it
can take time. So you got to get the play
calling fast and the personnel and fast. That's number one.
But even the process of how they go about doing
it could sometimes be inefficient. And again I can't speak
to what they're doing. But it's one of the things
where if you're having a hard time getting play calls
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in with.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
A rookie, just give a risk band.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
It almost ensures that you're not gonna get the improper
play call because it's right there on his wristband.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
He can read it.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I personally feel like most football players are visual learners.
The other reason why I always liked the risk bands
for players is because they see the word and it
creates a picture.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
In their head. It's easier for them to memorize.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
And so when you have a quarterback who sees it
reads it off, he's able to more vividly tell everyone
what they have and all that because it's reinforced in
him what that play is. You go back to install
one oh one, you see it in a playbook, you
see it on an iPad now, and then it translates
onto you know, watching it on tape, walking through it.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Then you go into practice, then you go into a game.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So it takes you back to that initial insul a ooh, yeah,
I remember what this was, I remember what is what's
supposed to be.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
All those things.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
So again I can't speak exactly to how they go
about doing it, but it does feel like there's more
efficient ways of getting the play in the huddle and
getting that playoff.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Here's the other thing I want to ask you, because
I brought this up to Var I think the week before,
because this was a story that came out. Apparently they didn't.
So like you've always scripted plays going into games, right,
like the first fifteen first yeah, ten fifteen, of course, yeah,
Apparently they weren't doing that at the start of the season,
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Like there was no script there was just a set
of plays will probably run. And like you had guys
like DJ Moore who finally went to Shane Waldron and
the coaching staff and just said, hey, can we like
have a plan here, Like can we have like some
sort of It just feels like so Nickel and dime
everything around him. Yet he's supposed to be the franchise quarterback.
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And we've talked about this before, Like, look, Roma Dunesday's
having an okay start to his career. He's clearly talented.
But O Lou was there and available to be drafted
and they went wide receiver And I just don't get it.
I don't under like they're building everything on the outside
the defense. They've got all this money invested everywhere else,
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but they're offensive liners in shambles, And it feels like,
why would you overlook the most important part of your
offense for a young quarterback like that, just to go
out and make splash draft picks after you already went
out and trade it for Keenan Allen.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
It's it's easier to find wide receivers that it is offensive.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Lineman in the NFL. I mean, I'm just that's just
how it is.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Or in the draft per se, it's easier to find
guys who are going to come in and be a
Day one cornerstone starter all right, at wide receiver in
other rounds of the draft, or even undrafted free agents.
It's easier to find those guys than it is on
the offensive line. And so I'm with you on that.
I always feel like when you look at the first round,
if you're not talking quarterback, you're talking up front, you're
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talking tackles, you're talking edge players. Then as you subsequently,
if you don't really need that, even though you always
eventually need that, you need depth, et cetera, then you
start looking at more of that cornerback position in particular
for me than wide receiver. I think if you look
at wide receivers too, they have a hard time, especially
early on, but specifically the rookie year breaking into the
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league and making the type of impact that teams are
hoping that they will be able to make. It might
be flashes here and there, but consistently it's pretty pretty hard.
I mean, the Puka nukuas and what he was able
to do his rookie year is pretty rare.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
So that's the other reason why I would do that.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
But I want to go back to the scripting because
I do feel like there's a little bit of a
misnomer with that.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
I mean, the reality is you can.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Script off plays. All you're really doing is intelligence gathering.
You're putting out there in formations and personnels, and what
you're doing is you're trying to confirm what you saw
in film coming into the game and how you think they're.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Going to play it.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
So the reality is if you script plays, that's fine.
You get more practice at least running those specific plays
for the beginning of the game, so it should be
a more crisp operation. But if they come out doing
something different than you thought, or there's a matchup, you
know that maybe isn't going well early on the way
you think, or you know, once you get off in
a couple of second and longs or a couple of
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third and lungs, you might have, you know, a third
and two to three, a third and four to six,
a third and seven to nine, a third and ten
plus third down play to run that.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
You really like first off the board.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
But if you get a couple of those in that drive,
you're kind of already off script as it is.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Like I would say this too.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
A lot of the best coaches I've been around, when
they divided up situations, they divided up situations not in
this like category of hey we always do it's you know,
third and shure we do two to three, four to six,
seventy nine. They always said, well, where does the defense change, Like,
at what point does the defensive coordinator say, yeah, it
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might be third and five to third and six. They
stop playing as much man to man and they start
playing more zone or if they're bringing a pressure, it's
not man to man pressure, it's gonna be some sort
of zone pressure. Or is it third and eight plus
where they start playing more of it a Cover two
Tampa and they start playing more soft. Now everyone's got
tendencies and they're gonna try to combat those tendencies by
mixing in different calls. But for the most part, if
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you watch enough film, if you divide it up enough,
you get more of a sense.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Of the identity.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
And so you kind of have to script and create
a game plan around what you're going up against and
what you're anticipating you're getting, but also what they are.
And oftentimes, you know, teams try to kind of put
like a defense and how they play different situations into
their box.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Then it doesn't really work that way. Like you've got
you've got to be able.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
To kind of find, you know, too calm through you know,
how they play certain situations, because that's what the NFL is.
It's situational football, it's matchups. So again I can't speak
to what they're doing in Chicago, but if they weren't scripting,
it's not the best sign.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
But it's also not the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
They're gonna and you're also going to look at who
the best players are too, Right Like, if you're going
up and you're coming into a game where they have
a premiere edge rusher, and it says it's like Michael
Parsons or somebody like that. You're going to script based
off of what, you know, the strength of that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Matchups.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just so so looking at it from
that perspective as well. You know, it's like, all right,
you got you got to cover corner guy over here
that that is like he stays on this side, he
doesn't travel, or he does travel.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You'll have scripted plays. Yeah, yeah, matchups.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
But they're gonna sawed off by Green Bay this weekend.
You just never know, man, I do never know.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You never know.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
They almost beat Washington, and Washington is a pretty pretty
good team.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's just the one thing you can all ways expect
from a team that isn't a good team or a
great team is inconsistency. That's the most consistent thing you
can expect from a team that isn't good is that
they're inconsistent. So they're not going to be consistently losing games.
They're not going to consistently be bad. They might have
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a moment where they beat a team they weren't supposed
to win against just because they're inconsistent. So this game
they might perform at a higher level and that might
lead to them winning a game against the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, speaking of a higher level, we're gonna take you to.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
A higher level here. Oh wow, We're gonna see if
he can do it? Can he do it? Can he
tell you? And read into the future what the college
football playoff rankings will look like?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Find out it's yours next here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. So
we are going to get into some business decisions being
made apparently.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
In the NFL by a player and by a team.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
We'll have that discussion for you again coming up here
a little over fifteen minutes from now here on FSR.
Right now, though, obviously with the college Football Playoff rankings
coming up, we are going to try and see if
the man himself can call his shot. Lee, Do we
know how Brady did last week? As far as his
predictions and the actual College Football Playoff rankings, I'm going
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to go at least ten out of twelve. I think
you went ten out of twelve. That's gonna be my
guess for last week. But it is time for Week two.
A lot of teams near the top have lost, and
let's take a look. Let's take a listen to see
if BEQ can do it again.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well, first off, let me just begin by saying this.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I want to reiterate, and I'm going to do this
almost every single week. The top twelve teams are not
necessarily who get in to the College Football Playoff. I
need to say this because as we get closer and
closer to the end, there's all types of scenarios that
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can play out.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I talked to you guys yesterday about the Big Twelve.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
The Big Twelve conference is the most fascinating conference in
all of college football.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
There's a lot of parody. There's a lot of teams
that could win.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
At BYU right now is the highest rank currently in
the College Football Playoff poll. However, there's a chance Colorado,
who controls their own destiny, if they went out, they
would be playing BYU and they would go. In that instance,
if Colorado was to beat an undefeated BYU, Colorado would
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be assured a spot into the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Now, whether or not they would go to buy we
would have to wait and see.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
However, they would be a shirt of a spot, being
a part of one of the Power for conferences. The
question then becomes, if BYU is twelve and one and
that is their one loss, are they gonna get.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Penalized for it?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
We will soon find out this weekend's ratings, or excuse me,
this week's ratings will.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Give us a bit more of a sense.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
But I don't think there's gonna be much changes this
week outside of a few in regards to the teams
that are.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
In the mix.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It'll be more about the seeding, and I'll get to
that in a second. Orgon will remain at number one,
Ohio State at number two.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
No reason to change either of those two.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
The big changes really come at three and four Texas
with the loss by Georgia this past week. Now, with
their season on decline, maybe you're saying, does Georgia get.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Left out of the playoff altogether?
Speaker 5 (24:49):
They gotta play Tennessee this week because the SEC schedule
beat them up enough to the point where they're not
even a part of the conversation, but Texas bumps up
to number three. They would be the number two seed
if the playoff was to start today, representing the SEC.
If they were to win the SEC championship. At number four,
I've got Penn State. I think they will be solidified
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in that spot. However, as you see three of the
top four teams Big ten teams, it would be Oregon
who actually gets the buy at the number one overall seed.
Ohio State then would be the next highest seed to
number five, and then Penn State subsequently after that. After
Penn State, I've got Tennessee at five. We'll see what
they could do this week. Obviously, that would be a
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huge win. Who knows how high they would jump if
they could beat Georgia. Behind Tennessee, I've got Indiana, who's
undefeated ten and oh riding high into the bye week.
With Ohio State on the other side. However, their strength
of schedule has been rather easy up until they play Ohio.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
State next week.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
One little nugget though, that I think is pretty fascinating.
When's the last team that went ten and O the
next season and the two teams that were playing for
the national championship the year prior they beat Michigan, they
beat Washington. People tend to forget that was who actually
was playing off for the national championship. Kind of weird,
weird question, but I'd be curious to see if that's ever.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Happened before in college football.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
At number seven, Notre Dame, who's been flying high ever
since the loss of Northern Illinois. I know a lot
of Notre Dame fans want them to forget about it.
I think that team starting to make people forget about
them with the way they're.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Drumming their opponents.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
The over under all right for team total points for
Florida State was seven and a half.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
They gave up three last week. It was ridiculously dominant
performance by Notre Dame. At number eight. 'p got BYU.
Still undefeated.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Some people are gonna say they needed some help from
the Big Twelve officials, and that's up to you to decide.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Regardless. They're undefeated.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
They beat Utah in the Holy War, and they've got
their eyes set on the Big Twelve championship game. Remember,
they could drop one game and still have a clear
path to the Big twelve championship. So it really comes
down to them winning once more and it's pretty much
in the bag for the most part. At number nine,
I've got Alabama. Nice win over LLC this past week,
it was an elimination game. LSU out. Alabama still in
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the mix. Same it could be said for Old Miss.
Huge win over Georgia arguably the biggest win in Lane
Kiffen's career as a head coach. Ole Miss is very
much the mix. I've got Georgia out eleven. No room
for air here. We talked about their max versus Tennessee.
They've got to find a way to get things back
on track. The offensive line play has been poor. Carson
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Beck's been throwing the ball and in trouble too much,
and there's no playmakers helping out on the outside.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
They've got some injuries there. Maybe they get healthier this week.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
And at number twelve, rounding it out, I've got Miami
after their losses past week, They've been playing with fire
all year long.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
If finally caught up to them.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Still though, if things play out and they went out
as well as Clemson, Miami would actually have the go
ahead to go represent well. I shouldn't they represented on
divisions anymore, but they would be the second team that
would play in the a SEC Championship game against SMU.
Right now, Yes, SMU, even though they're in the leader
spot in the ACC, I still have Miami ahead of them.
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I just think camboard's a difference maker. But the differentiators Louisville,
Miami beat Louisville. Clemson lost to Louisville. If both Clemson
and Miami went out, Miami would go instead.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Just outside the top twelve. We got Boise State.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
At thirteen, SMU at fourteen, and Texas A and M
rounding out the top fifteen.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
We're talking about right there, bro talking about what's wrong
with you man?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Like do you not have time in your life? Like?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
WHOA?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I travel a lot, so I get the opportunity to
kind of geek out and just look at a bunch
of stuff in stats.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But I do.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Here's the thing is, when I said that Michigan and
Washington played for the national championship last year, how many
of you all remember that.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I remember.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I remember.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I remember because that was any any naysayers on Michael Pennix,
they were pointing to that game as being like, oh yeah,
I just.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I feel like that's gotten lost in the mix because
neither of those teams have been competitive. Granted, bunch of changes,
both head coaches gone and you know, new quarterbacks and
all that too, But the reality is it's just crazy
to think about a year ago. If I would have
said to you guys, hey, Indiana's going to be ten
and zero and they're gonna have a really good shot
at playing as as part of the College Football Playoff,
you guys would been like, what are you talking about, dude,
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No chance, Like they're gonna beat both teams who are
playing for a national championship. It's been pretty wild in
Bloomington for coach Kirk Sinnetti and the Hoosiers and the
way they played, by the way I know I talked.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
About it easy.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Their schedule has been this year and really cranks up
obviously VRS Ohio State. But the truth is they've dominated
their opponents. Like when you really look at like some
of the you know, comparable opponents that they've played against,
and you know, a couple of months like looking at okay,
you know how much did did Penn State.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Who just drummed washing at home?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Indiana beaten by a couple of touchdowns too, though, Like
it's it's not like they have you know, had a
hard time with any of these opponents. They have crushed everyone,
even Michigan. That game was a little bit tight, which
I kind of felt like it might be with a
buy ahead and Ohio State two weeks ahead. But I
got by Michigan. So here we are with the Indiana
team that's ranked inside the top ten, the best start
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in their.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
History of the university. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I hope they finished it out too.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I do too, just for you know, the committee's sake,
because like I'm tired of them pissing Joel clad off Man,
Like I'm just sick of this, Like Indiana.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Deserves nobody else got nothing on a cube, bro, I
ain't never heard nobody run s like that. Yeah, if
I didn't know you, like if I know you and
love you a little, bro, Bro, I had talked so
bad about you.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Man, it's too smart, it's too much. I would too
much for me, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's so good, it's so good. I think it's a
great job. I think you do a fine work. I
mean I don't get it. I don't know. Now here's my.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Question to you guys not to continue to kind of
geek out about this, but come on, if you look
at if you look at, for example, Ohio State schedule
as compared to Oregon, Penn State, Indiana. All right, Ohio State, plator,
I had to play Penn State, have to play Indiana.
Those other three schools. Oregon didn't play Penn State, they
don't play Indiana. Penn State only played Ohio State, not
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Oregon or Indiana or Michigan, Indiana or Well or Michigan
even though they're not that good. Yeah, right, and then
Indiana only got Ohio State. I guess I'll put it
this way. I'll be open about this. If you're the
Big ten and you want to try to stack the
decks so you get at least three teams in, this
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will be the way you schedule moving forward. Absolutely, you
will take three or four of the top teams and
you will essentially have unless they've got a tough non
conference opponent, they're only going to have one big boy
within the conference if you can schedule it out that way.
And I know people are gonna hate me saying that,
but this is about money. The more teams into the
college football playoff, the more money the conference gets out
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of the teams get out of it.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
So there's a bit of an incentive here to do so.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
And I think the tough thing for the SEC is,
if we're being real, I think they've got five teams
that are all legit and contending with one another, and
we're just facing it because they've had to play ridiculous schedule.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
As has Alabama.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
If you look at the Big Ten, the way that's
scheduled out, no one knew IU was gonna be like this,
but for Oregon and Penn State, I mean only to
play Ohio State, not really to have any other you know,
big boys. I mean, Penn State wouldn't have had Michigan
this year anyway. It's just it's kind of crazy to
think that's the case.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
That's that's the part that I find so entertaining is
the I know people don't like, well, you know, the
business element of it. But the part that's funny to
me is that there are going to be conferences Big
ten SEC who are looking at this year going all right,
let's just see how this plays out, and then they'll
reevaluate in the off season and go, yeah, so this
is how we're going to do it to get all
or you're not reevaluating if you're redoing. So basically, this
(32:41):
is like if you're gonna get like you know, randos
into the college football player knocking each other ey, like,
this would be the year to do it before the
Big ten and the SEC get their hands on it
and go now we're just gonna turn this into it.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
But if I'm in the SEC or to Big ten,
I'm looking at it like I'm going to schedule so
we can get as many in as we can.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, a simple man, it's pretty fun. You look at
what's going on in SEC. That's bad right now, man, yeah, carbage.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
It's it's going to create some controversy too, because you're
going to have a number of two loss teams and
probably a three loss team, I mean getting ready for
right now, there's gonna be a world where a three
loss team gets in. And I've had these conversations, you know,
with coach Meyer, in part because he coached the Big
ten coach in the SEC, and his comments always like, well,
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how do you compare an ACC schedule a Big twelve
schedule and with a team that's lost three games in
the SEC. It's like it's kind of apples and oranges.
It's just a different level of competition. Now there's validity
to that, but that's also not the construct of the
playoff that we agreed to.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
So unless something.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Changes in the future, like this is what we agreed to,
and I don't think it's fair that to the players
and teams the Big Twelve acc if we all went
in this agreement, eyes wide open, and now we're saying, well,
the SEC, you know, maybe we should get a team
or two here because it's Georgia, because it's Alabama and
they've got three losses. That's not how this works, man,
That's just not how this works. This happens in the
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NCAA March Madas Basketball Tournament. Sometimes you get some of
those blue bloods that have a down year then I
was highly ranked.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Maybe they miss out a little bit.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
It's just I think that's what we're getting to and
people are going to have to adjust and get more
comfortable with that.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
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Speaker 2 (34:30):
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He's the best. Ask him, well, I mean he is
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Speaker 6 (34:42):
I hate you Jonahs.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
You know he says these things because I thinks I'm gone,
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Speaker 6 (34:48):
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Speaker 5 (34:52):
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a de lap it Lee, who has to go take
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just wait until Pete Prisco comes on with us today.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
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Speaker 2 (35:03):
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I'm on a clese so good for you. Then that
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Speaker 5 (35:14):
Then we did a we did have a conversation last
night about just his overall well being.
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discussion for you. Your guys' thoughts on the Indianapolis Colts
deciding to stick with Joe Flacco as opposed to Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I think we knew that.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, at least I knew that unless unless Flacco flamed out.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I mean, how bad is it? Yeah? It was it
a flaming I don't think it would look like a
flame out.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Wasn't a flaming Flacco. It was Ah, I feel like
the flames ignited. I don't know that he's on fire.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, well that's fair.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I mean, how bad must it be for Anthony Richardson
that even after Flacco's performed, he's turned them all over
six times since he's taken over.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
There has to have been more of the story, and
it can't just be about the tapping out thing.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Yeah, there has to be more to that story.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Because it feels like that was the last straw, not
that that was the first thing that's happened.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You know, they can't.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Like I said, I didn't feel like that was egregious
enough to pull them out, So I tend to follow
follow that thought process.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
There has to be something else more there.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
You're not like all it was unique.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Yeah, I've never seen a quarterback door before historical.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
It was definitely unique.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, but I mean tapping out because you were tired.
As bad as it sounds, I still don't know that.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Did someone do that against Tyson? They just turned around
there like, yeah, I'm not gonna Tyson tapped out. I
was at that fight. Was that holy Field?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
No, it was like his last fight. I forget who
it was against.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
It was in d C.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
He tapped out
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about just some of the bad quarterback play or bad
play in general.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Or bad decision making. Buy a quarterback. Yeah it has
a head injury. Yeah there's a head injury away.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Hey, you know what though? What TUIs Hawaiian man? They
don't play that no toughs.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yes, they're gonna like he's gonna get down and try
and make a play if he needs to make.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Who said it wasn't You're cute? I said the tackle
on the inner? Was that you? If it was a
great point? It was me?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I just I mean, why would you? I don't know, man,
it's just a matter of win. I'm just telling y'all,
it's a matter of win. Yeah, you're gonna stick your
head in there to try to make a tackle on
an interception. That's I couldn't remember what the play was
where he got hit in the hit, but that that
was it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That was the one. Bring it right on in there.
Maybe he would do something like that. I don't know.
That probably was would you?
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I mean, at that point in time, you're in such
a fit of rage from throwing an interception, you really
don't see straight.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
You're like, ah, I'm gonna get this card. And you're like,
oh man, I'm in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
These guys are way bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic
than I am.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Ah damn gosh. So that's where you have to go
for like just anything.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Try to go for the ball, try to just go
low and hopefully you could knock someone down.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's bad, man, knock yourself out while you're doing it.
I just I don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
I mean, at least you're trying. No somewhere they just
throw it and.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
They just looking to go, oh oh Eli used to
be and Eli's faces that he made when he did,
and you know what, good for him live to fight
another day.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
There's a certain there's a few if they went and
did it, like all right, I'm like, yeah, he could
do that. You know, there's some guys they could go
make a play because you just know they could go
make that play. They built for it. But most of
you guys, y, I ain't built to get hit to
begin with. Why you're gonna go try to make a
hit in that situation. Just walk your ass just like
(03:30):
the punter, Just like the kicker. Walk your ass off
that field. We don't need you there. We don't need
you there. Sorry. I don't give a damn if they
score six points. It's only six points. I don't need
my QB getting knocked the hell out because he made
an interception. Don't need it, sorry, somebody else needed to
(03:51):
make the play. You fed it up. Yeah, that's true,
but we'll get it back. I don't need you doing it.
Real talk, especially if you're to a tongue of a loa.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What you're doing, doc?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I mean the first they got to say it to
me when he came off, Like if I'm if anybody
out there that gives a damn about their team gives
a damn about him? What you're doing, bro? How of devoting?
Hey Deebo Samuel, we grab you by your deck? Hey man,
you want to get knocked out, let's go over here.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I knock you out by the way. Do you think
do you think I remember his name? Who's the long
snapper for the Niners.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
He did not like it?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, do you think what pissed.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Deebo off was that he made a comment about Deebo's
pregame outfit out of the stadium.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He shouldn't have walked into the stadium like that. I mean,
people gonna try.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
You can come walking in the stadium wearing bike shorts
of the leather jacket.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's not the outfit that made it so bad. It
was the walk. I'm sorry, Deebo. You you want to like,
don't walk in like that.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Describe the walk.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I can't describe it.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
It wasn't more of like a like a walk a
little bit of a limp.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And no was very Yeah, it was zety.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
It was a zesty walk.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Look it up. I don't know, I mean, look it up,
like what do you look it up?
Speaker 6 (05:19):
What are you getting at?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They're gonna try you.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
When you say, well, they're gonna try you, They're gonna
they're gonna see if you about it about that life.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Who's you know.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Some cats in the serengetti. They're gonna be hunting you
down a little differently. It's a different SETI yeah, well
maybe it's not. It's full of lions, tigers and bears.
I'm just saying he shouldn't have made his walk like that.
That's all I say, walking like Deebo Samuel bro don't
(05:49):
don't switch your walk up because you switched your fitt up.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He had a man purse too. By the way, I'm
just saying, I'm not hating on him. I'm just saying, like,
if no respect for one of the great game costs
in the NFL, you know, well, maybe that explains it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
What's that just to me that teams Bowl eligible right now?
They're in the top twenty five.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Buddy, they got a couple losses too that easily could
have went the other way.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, I mean they could.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Be one football team right now, for being honest.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They could. So.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
By the way, we are going to have the BQ
Playoff Ranking predictor coming up here shortly on FSR.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
But we should get into this discussion here.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Definitely, let's get into it. The Chicago Bears are a
bad football team. They are not good and it's more
than just the quarterback. It's a lot of stuff that's
happening there. And so everybody's expecting are what are the changes?
Is there going to be firings? Are people going to
be like, like, what, what's the change that's going to
(06:53):
happen in Chicago. The head coach Matt Eberflu spoke about
that yesterday and also about you know, whether or not
they're going to stick with Caleb Williams despite all the
struggles just in the.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
In the process of getting that done, there will be changes,
adjustments being made. Again, I'm not going to disclose those
right now. I'm not at that point in the process.
You know, Monday is a long day in terms of
the evaluation. It's important that we take time to make
sure to make those decisions and make the right decisions
that's for the Bears, best for the Bears going forward
for this week and then going into the future. So
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I think that's the most important thing that we do
that we have some steadiness here.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Now you make a change of quarterback, No.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Caleb is our starter.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You know.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
The processes is. You know, we've played some really good football.
We've played complementary football during the course of the year.
You know, we won some games in a row. So
there is evidence on tape that we've had togetherness, complementary football,
played winning football. And for you to sit there and
say that we haven't done that, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So that is the the latest.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Have done enough of that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I mean, that's real.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Let me ask you this question because as I was
like scroll through X, this came up and I thought, oh,
I'm gonna ask the boys about this. So who is
the comp for Caleb Williams when he was getting drafted
ever ready to.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Come in the NFL?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Mahomes right, And someone made the comment that, well, I
guess we know what it would have been like had
Patrick Mahomes come to the Bears, because that was the
frustration from a lot of Bears fans was instead they
wanted Mitchell Trubisky and number two overall that's so dope.
And so the comment they're making is that, well, I
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guess it wouldn't have mattered and it would have been
any better because this is supposed to be the second
coming and look where we look what we're doing with
him in his rookie year, and this organization is so
bad that they wouldn't know what to do with the
Patrick Mahomes even if you fell.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
In their lap.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well there you go, and and and but you're you're
a bust, so you can't say it, right.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's that's what they'll say.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You're just scruntled because you weren't you weren't Tom Brady.
You can't say that you're upset the moment somebody says
what you just said, if they're smart enough, if they're
actually if you're a Bears fan and you're humble enough,
or you're you're aware enough to actually comprehend what Q
just said. It is what it is like if you
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go to a certain places you are destined to be.
What the environment is that you're in. That's the bottom line.
That's the bottom line, especially at a development position. If Caleb,
if Caleb Williams goes to Kansas City and has the
same process that takes place with the coaching staff and
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that organization, does Caleb Williams end up being the person
that everybody's saying, here's the cop, here's the cop, here's
the comp maybe even better and maybe even better because
Caleb Williams might be better coming out of college and
what Patrick Mahomes was like.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That's the part that it blows my mind that people
can't figure out that situation and environment dictates.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
A lot, it dictates everything.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That's why the term broken home is a real terms.
It's a real term, like if you come from that environment,
like there's a lot going on there. It doesn't mean
that that you know that you're just going to be
isolated and they're going to talk about just you as
a person. No, they're going to factor in all those
other things around you, be like, okay, let's cut them
some slack here, and the idea that we're just going
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to say, well, you just insert player X here and
tmx here and then this is out what no man
like situation dictates success in the NFL. You remember when
the Browns were getting bare, Like people were ripping the
Browns apart because they were like, oh my god, they
passed on Carson Wentz and he went to Philly and
look what he did early in his career. It's like, man,
do you know the situation he had in Philly as
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opposed to what he went had in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
You remember when Aaron Rodgers was just getting an MVP
of the league and then had a pretty decent year
the last year he was there, and then went to
a different team and that was a dysfunctional team, and
then he realized that, whoa wait, I'm playing for a
dysfunctional team. And then you started seeing how Aaron Rodgers played,
and then we started thinking about, well, maybe Aaron Rodgers
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is old. Maybe maybe Aaron Rodgers doesn't have it anymore.
You remember that, you remember when that happened.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You know why. Because the environment that he went in
is not.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Conducive to the scale level of any player, including Aaron Rodgers.
It will not outperform dysfunctioned.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
It will not so like here's the part, and I
want to ask you guys this because this is what
it looks like to me. But obviously you guys would
know better than I would. And Brady, you would know
because you actually played the position. It looks like to
me in watching Caleb Williams that they're either asking him
to do too much or he's trying.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
To do too much, or it could be both.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I don't see any other rookie quarterback that's checking in
and out of certain plays at the line of scrimmage that's,
you know, struggling to get plays in because of all
the It feels like it's information overload and he's overwhelmed
by it. But he's missing throws like he can't. They
can't keep him upright, he's taking sacks like. You can
blame the nine sacks on the offensive line all you want.
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There was a handful of those that were on him,
Like I just look at it and I go, it
feels like it's there's too much going on, and he
feels completely overwhelmed at this point and we're halfway through
the season.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
There's a few issues that I see in watching his film,
and the first is that he's relying too much on
trying to create at times. And I've said it before,
you know, not take these you want to try to
go downfield, you know, as the season's worn on, that
was kind of my early, like initial impression of him.
But as the season's worn on now I see at
times he looks hesitant. It's almost like he doesn't want
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to make a mistake or he doesn't want to, you know,
put his team in a bad spot, almost like they're
coaching him to be conservative at times with how he's played.
And so as far as the beginning to plays in
and out that that falls on two people. That's gonna
be on Shane Waldron and really Caleb and I don't know,
you know, as far as the play calling process from
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Shane from the sidelines and the helmet, how they're going
about doing it, there's ways of speeding it up. I've
always said to people, everyone looks at a wristband as
a negative because like, well, what is the going new
to riskby that's so so college. So it's like, well, no,
it's actually faster. So instead of me saying zero slash
sixty six double seem snow alert forty, I just go
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play two and then he says zero slaws his six
double seem snow alert forty. And so in that you're
sitting there going to yourself, Okay, if I had to
say that play twice, clearly it takes longer. And the
other thing about that is if you're on the road
and there's some crowd noise and you're trying to cover
up your helmet and you're saying, hey, say it again,
say it again, and then you have to say in
the huddle, then other guy's asking you to say it again.
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There's a lot of things that happen in the course
of an NFL huddle and that whole operation that it
can take time. So you got to get the play
calling fast and the personnel and fast. That's number one.
But even the process of how they go about doing
it could sometimes be inefficient. And again I can't speak
to what they're doing. But it's one of the things
where if you're having a hard time getting play calls
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in with.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
A rookie, just give a risk band.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
It almost ensures that you're not gonna get the improper
play call because it's right there on his wristband.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
He can read it.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I personally feel like most football players are visual learners.
The other reason why I always liked the risk bands
for players is because they see the word and it
creates a picture.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
In their head. It's easier for them to memorize.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
And so when you have a quarterback who sees it
reads it off, he's able to more vividly tell everyone
what they have and all that because it's reinforced in
him what that play is. You go back to install
one oh one, you see it in a playbook, you
see it on an iPad now, and then it translates
onto you know, watching it on tape, walking through it.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Then you go into practice, then you go into a game.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So it takes you back to that initial insul a ooh, yeah,
I remember what this was, I remember what is what's
supposed to be.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
All those things.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
So again I can't speak exactly to how they go
about doing it, but it does feel like there's more
efficient ways of getting the play in the huddle and
getting that playoff.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Here's the other thing I want to ask you, because
I brought this up to Var I think the week before,
because this was a story that came out. Apparently they didn't.
So like you've always scripted plays going into games, right,
like the first fifteen first yeah, ten fifteen, of course, yeah,
Apparently they weren't doing that at the start of the season,
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Like there was no script there was just a set
of plays will probably run. And like you had guys
like DJ Moore who finally went to Shane Waldron and
the coaching staff and just said, hey, can we like
have a plan here, Like can we have like some
sort of It just feels like so Nickel and dime
everything around him. Yet he's supposed to be the franchise quarterback.
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And we've talked about this before, Like, look, Roma Dunesday's
having an okay start to his career. He's clearly talented.
But O Lou was there and available to be drafted
and they went wide receiver And I just don't get it.
I don't under like they're building everything on the outside
the defense. They've got all this money invested everywhere else,
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but they're offensive liners in shambles, And it feels like,
why would you overlook the most important part of your
offense for a young quarterback like that, just to go
out and make splash draft picks after you already went
out and trade it for Keenan Allen.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
It's it's easier to find wide receivers that it is offensive.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Lineman in the NFL. I mean, I'm just that's just
how it is.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Or in the draft per se, it's easier to find
guys who are going to come in and be a
Day one cornerstone starter all right, at wide receiver in
other rounds of the draft, or even undrafted free agents.
It's easier to find those guys than it is on
the offensive line. And so I'm with you on that.
I always feel like when you look at the first round,
if you're not talking quarterback, you're talking up front, you're
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talking tackles, you're talking edge players. Then as you subsequently,
if you don't really need that, even though you always
eventually need that, you need depth, et cetera, then you
start looking at more of that cornerback position in particular
for me than wide receiver. I think if you look
at wide receivers too, they have a hard time, especially
early on, but specifically the rookie year breaking into the
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league and making the type of impact that teams are
hoping that they will be able to make. It might
be flashes here and there, but consistently it's pretty pretty hard.
I mean, the Puka nukuas and what he was able
to do his rookie year is pretty rare.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
So that's the other reason why I would do that.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
But I want to go back to the scripting because
I do feel like there's a little bit of a
misnomer with that.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
I mean, the reality is you can.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Script off plays. All you're really doing is intelligence gathering.
You're putting out there in formations and personnels, and what
you're doing is you're trying to confirm what you saw
in film coming into the game and how you think they're.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Going to play it.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
So the reality is if you script plays, that's fine.
You get more practice at least running those specific plays
for the beginning of the game, so it should be
a more crisp operation. But if they come out doing
something different than you thought, or there's a matchup, you
know that maybe isn't going well early on the way
you think, or you know, once you get off in
a couple of second and longs or a couple of
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third and lungs, you might have, you know, a third
and two to three, a third and four to six,
a third and seven to nine, a third and ten
plus third down play to run that.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
You really like first off the board.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
But if you get a couple of those in that drive,
you're kind of already off script as it is.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Like I would say this too.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
A lot of the best coaches I've been around, when
they divided up situations, they divided up situations not in
this like category of hey we always do it's you know,
third and shure we do two to three, four to six,
seventy nine. They always said, well, where does the defense change, Like,
at what point does the defensive coordinator say, yeah, it
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might be third and five to third and six. They
stop playing as much man to man and they start
playing more zone or if they're bringing a pressure, it's
not man to man pressure, it's gonna be some sort
of zone pressure. Or is it third and eight plus
where they start playing more of it a Cover two
Tampa and they start playing more soft. Now everyone's got
tendencies and they're gonna try to combat those tendencies by
mixing in different calls. But for the most part, if
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you watch enough film, if you divide it up enough,
you get more of a sense.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Of the identity.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
And so you kind of have to script and create
a game plan around what you're going up against and
what you're anticipating you're getting, but also what they are.
And oftentimes, you know, teams try to kind of put
like a defense and how they play different situations into
their box.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Then it doesn't really work that way. Like you've got
you've got to be able.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
To kind of find, you know, too calm through you know,
how they play certain situations, because that's what the NFL is.
It's situational football, it's matchups. So again I can't speak
to what they're doing in Chicago, but if they weren't scripting,
it's not the best sign.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
But it's also not the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
They're gonna and you're also going to look at who
the best players are too, Right Like, if you're going
up and you're coming into a game where they have
a premiere edge rusher, and it says it's like Michael
Parsons or somebody like that. You're going to script based
off of what, you know, the strength of that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Matchups.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just so so looking at it from
that perspective as well. You know, it's like, all right,
you got you got to cover corner guy over here
that that is like he stays on this side, he
doesn't travel, or he does travel.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You'll have scripted plays. Yeah, yeah, matchups.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
But they're gonna sawed off by Green Bay this weekend.
You just never know, man, I do never know.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You never know.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
They almost beat Washington, and Washington is a pretty pretty
good team.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's just the one thing you can all ways expect
from a team that isn't a good team or a
great team is inconsistency. That's the most consistent thing you
can expect from a team that isn't good is that
they're inconsistent. So they're not going to be consistently losing games.
They're not going to consistently be bad. They might have
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a moment where they beat a team they weren't supposed
to win against just because they're inconsistent. So this game
they might perform at a higher level and that might
lead to them winning a game against the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, speaking of a higher level, we're gonna take you to.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
A higher level here. Oh wow, We're gonna see if
he can do it? Can he do it? Can he
tell you? And read into the future what the college
football playoff rankings will look like?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Find out it's yours next here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
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Speaker 4 (22:06):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. So
we are going to get into some business decisions being
made apparently.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
In the NFL by a player and by a team.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
We'll have that discussion for you again coming up here
a little over fifteen minutes from now here on FSR.
Right now, though, obviously with the college Football Playoff rankings
coming up, we are going to try and see if
the man himself can call his shot. Lee, Do we
know how Brady did last week? As far as his
predictions and the actual College Football Playoff rankings, I'm going
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to go at least ten out of twelve. I think
you went ten out of twelve. That's gonna be my
guess for last week. But it is time for Week two.
A lot of teams near the top have lost, and
let's take a look. Let's take a listen to see
if BEQ can do it again.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well, first off, let me just begin by saying this.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I want to reiterate, and I'm going to do this
almost every single week. The top twelve teams are not
necessarily who get in to the College Football Playoff. I
need to say this because as we get closer and
closer to the end, there's all types of scenarios that
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can play out.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I talked to you guys yesterday about the Big Twelve.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
The Big Twelve conference is the most fascinating conference in
all of college football.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
There's a lot of parody. There's a lot of teams
that could win.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
At BYU right now is the highest rank currently in
the College Football Playoff poll. However, there's a chance Colorado,
who controls their own destiny, if they went out, they
would be playing BYU and they would go. In that instance,
if Colorado was to beat an undefeated BYU, Colorado would
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be assured a spot into the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Now, whether or not they would go to buy we
would have to wait and see.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
However, they would be a shirt of a spot, being
a part of one of the Power for conferences. The
question then becomes, if BYU is twelve and one and
that is their one loss, are they gonna get.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Penalized for it?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
We will soon find out this weekend's ratings, or excuse me,
this week's ratings will.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Give us a bit more of a sense.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
But I don't think there's gonna be much changes this
week outside of a few in regards to the teams
that are.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
In the mix.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It'll be more about the seeding, and I'll get to
that in a second. Orgon will remain at number one,
Ohio State at number two.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
No reason to change either of those two.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
The big changes really come at three and four Texas
with the loss by Georgia this past week. Now, with
their season on decline, maybe you're saying, does Georgia get.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Left out of the playoff altogether?
Speaker 5 (24:49):
They gotta play Tennessee this week because the SEC schedule
beat them up enough to the point where they're not
even a part of the conversation, but Texas bumps up
to number three. They would be the number two seed
if the playoff was to start today, representing the SEC.
If they were to win the SEC championship. At number four,
I've got Penn State. I think they will be solidified
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in that spot. However, as you see three of the
top four teams Big ten teams, it would be Oregon
who actually gets the buy at the number one overall seed.
Ohio State then would be the next highest seed to
number five, and then Penn State subsequently after that. After
Penn State, I've got Tennessee at five. We'll see what
they could do this week. Obviously, that would be a
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huge win. Who knows how high they would jump if
they could beat Georgia. Behind Tennessee, I've got Indiana, who's
undefeated ten and oh riding high into the bye week.
With Ohio State on the other side. However, their strength
of schedule has been rather easy up until they play Ohio.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
State next week.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
One little nugget though, that I think is pretty fascinating.
When's the last team that went ten and O the
next season and the two teams that were playing for
the national championship the year prior they beat Michigan, they
beat Washington. People tend to forget that was who actually
was playing off for the national championship. Kind of weird,
weird question, but I'd be curious to see if that's ever.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Happened before in college football.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
At number seven, Notre Dame, who's been flying high ever
since the loss of Northern Illinois. I know a lot
of Notre Dame fans want them to forget about it.
I think that team starting to make people forget about
them with the way they're.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Drumming their opponents.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
The over under all right for team total points for
Florida State was seven and a half.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
They gave up three last week. It was ridiculously dominant
performance by Notre Dame. At number eight. 'p got BYU.
Still undefeated.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Some people are gonna say they needed some help from
the Big Twelve officials, and that's up to you to decide.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Regardless. They're undefeated.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
They beat Utah in the Holy War, and they've got
their eyes set on the Big Twelve championship game. Remember,
they could drop one game and still have a clear
path to the Big twelve championship. So it really comes
down to them winning once more and it's pretty much
in the bag for the most part. At number nine,
I've got Alabama. Nice win over LLC this past week,
it was an elimination game. LSU out. Alabama still in
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the mix. Same it could be said for Old Miss.
Huge win over Georgia arguably the biggest win in Lane
Kiffen's career as a head coach. Ole Miss is very
much the mix. I've got Georgia out eleven. No room
for air here. We talked about their max versus Tennessee.
They've got to find a way to get things back
on track. The offensive line play has been poor. Carson
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Beck's been throwing the ball and in trouble too much,
and there's no playmakers helping out on the outside.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
They've got some injuries there. Maybe they get healthier this week.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
And at number twelve, rounding it out, I've got Miami
after their losses past week, They've been playing with fire
all year long.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
If finally caught up to them.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Still though, if things play out and they went out
as well as Clemson, Miami would actually have the go
ahead to go represent well. I shouldn't they represented on
divisions anymore, but they would be the second team that
would play in the a SEC Championship game against SMU.
Right now, Yes, SMU, even though they're in the leader
spot in the ACC, I still have Miami ahead of them.
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I just think camboard's a difference maker. But the differentiators Louisville,
Miami beat Louisville. Clemson lost to Louisville. If both Clemson
and Miami went out, Miami would go instead.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Just outside the top twelve. We got Boise State.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
At thirteen, SMU at fourteen, and Texas A and M
rounding out the top fifteen.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
We're talking about right there, bro talking about what's wrong
with you man?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Like do you not have time in your life? Like?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
WHOA?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I travel a lot, so I get the opportunity to
kind of geek out and just look at a bunch
of stuff in stats.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But I do.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Here's the thing is, when I said that Michigan and
Washington played for the national championship last year, how many
of you all remember that.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I remember.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I remember.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I remember because that was any any naysayers on Michael Pennix,
they were pointing to that game as being like, oh yeah,
I just.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I feel like that's gotten lost in the mix because
neither of those teams have been competitive. Granted, bunch of changes,
both head coaches gone and you know, new quarterbacks and
all that too, But the reality is it's just crazy
to think about a year ago. If I would have
said to you guys, hey, Indiana's going to be ten
and zero and they're gonna have a really good shot
at playing as as part of the College Football Playoff,
you guys would been like, what are you talking about, dude,
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No chance, Like they're gonna beat both teams who are
playing for a national championship. It's been pretty wild in
Bloomington for coach Kirk Sinnetti and the Hoosiers and the
way they played, by the way I know I talked.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
About it easy.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Their schedule has been this year and really cranks up
obviously VRS Ohio State. But the truth is they've dominated
their opponents. Like when you really look at like some
of the you know, comparable opponents that they've played against,
and you know, a couple of months like looking at okay,
you know how much did did Penn State.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Who just drummed washing at home?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Indiana beaten by a couple of touchdowns too, though, Like
it's it's not like they have you know, had a
hard time with any of these opponents. They have crushed everyone,
even Michigan. That game was a little bit tight, which
I kind of felt like it might be with a
buy ahead and Ohio State two weeks ahead. But I
got by Michigan. So here we are with the Indiana
team that's ranked inside the top ten, the best start
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in their.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
History of the university. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I hope they finished it out too.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I do too, just for you know, the committee's sake,
because like I'm tired of them pissing Joel clad off Man,
Like I'm just sick of this, Like Indiana.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Deserves nobody else got nothing on a cube, bro, I
ain't never heard nobody run s like that. Yeah, if
I didn't know you, like if I know you and
love you a little, bro, Bro, I had talked so
bad about you.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Man, it's too smart, it's too much. I would too
much for me, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's so good, it's so good. I think it's a
great job. I think you do a fine work. I
mean I don't get it. I don't know. Now here's my.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Question to you guys not to continue to kind of
geek out about this, but come on, if you look
at if you look at, for example, Ohio State schedule
as compared to Oregon, Penn State, Indiana. All right, Ohio State, plator,
I had to play Penn State, have to play Indiana.
Those other three schools. Oregon didn't play Penn State, they
don't play Indiana. Penn State only played Ohio State, not
(31:04):
Oregon or Indiana or Michigan, Indiana or Well or Michigan
even though they're not that good. Yeah, right, and then
Indiana only got Ohio State. I guess I'll put it
this way. I'll be open about this. If you're the
Big ten and you want to try to stack the
decks so you get at least three teams in, this
(31:25):
will be the way you schedule moving forward. Absolutely, you
will take three or four of the top teams and
you will essentially have unless they've got a tough non
conference opponent, they're only going to have one big boy
within the conference if you can schedule it out that way.
And I know people are gonna hate me saying that,
but this is about money. The more teams into the
college football playoff, the more money the conference gets out
(31:47):
of the teams get out of it.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
So there's a bit of an incentive here to do so.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
And I think the tough thing for the SEC is,
if we're being real, I think they've got five teams
that are all legit and contending with one another, and
we're just facing it because they've had to play ridiculous schedule.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
As has Alabama.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
If you look at the Big Ten, the way that's
scheduled out, no one knew IU was gonna be like this,
but for Oregon and Penn State, I mean only to
play Ohio State, not really to have any other you know,
big boys. I mean, Penn State wouldn't have had Michigan
this year anyway. It's just it's kind of crazy to
think that's the case.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
That's that's the part that I find so entertaining is
the I know people don't like, well, you know, the
business element of it. But the part that's funny to
me is that there are going to be conferences Big
ten SEC who are looking at this year going all right,
let's just see how this plays out, and then they'll
reevaluate in the off season and go, yeah, so this
is how we're going to do it to get all
or you're not reevaluating if you're redoing. So basically, this
(32:41):
is like if you're gonna get like you know, randos
into the college football player knocking each other ey, like,
this would be the year to do it before the
Big ten and the SEC get their hands on it
and go now we're just gonna turn this into it.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
But if I'm in the SEC or to Big ten,
I'm looking at it like I'm going to schedule so
we can get as many in as we can.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, a simple man, it's pretty fun. You look at
what's going on in SEC. That's bad right now, man, yeah, carbage.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
It's it's going to create some controversy too, because you're
going to have a number of two loss teams and
probably a three loss team, I mean getting ready for
right now, there's gonna be a world where a three
loss team gets in. And I've had these conversations, you know,
with coach Meyer, in part because he coached the Big
ten coach in the SEC, and his comments always like, well,
(33:27):
how do you compare an ACC schedule a Big twelve
schedule and with a team that's lost three games in
the SEC. It's like it's kind of apples and oranges.
It's just a different level of competition. Now there's validity
to that, but that's also not the construct of the
playoff that we agreed to.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
So unless something.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Changes in the future, like this is what we agreed to,
and I don't think it's fair that to the players
and teams the Big Twelve acc if we all went
in this agreement, eyes wide open, and now we're saying, well,
the SEC, you know, maybe we should get a team
or two here because it's Georgia, because it's Alabama and
they've got three losses. That's not how this works, man,
That's just not how this works. This happens in the
(34:12):
NCAA March Madas Basketball Tournament. Sometimes you get some of
those blue bloods that have a down year then I
was highly ranked.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Maybe they miss out a little bit.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
It's just I think that's what we're getting to and
people are going to have to adjust and get more
comfortable with that.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe here a.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Hard time. But that rundown is it's fire Bro's fire man.
He's the best. Ask him, well, I mean he is
the best man.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
I hate you Jonahs.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
You know he says these things because I thinks I'm gone,
like I'm not like sitting next to the mica.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Let's stale. That's what he thinks because he knows.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Usually around like eight o'clock, someone has to go take
a de lap it Lee, who has to go take
it to lap If you don't know what a delap is,
just wait until Pete Prisco comes on with us today.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
And you don't hear from Lee what we.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Call you got one bruin by the way, No, good
to go. Well, he hasn't talked about any crazy leftovers.
I'm on a clese so good for you. Then that
you should be going.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Then we did a we did have a conversation last
night about just his overall well being.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Oh yeah, so yeah, man, it looks great. Uh that's
already working. Yeah, it's already It's wonderful. All right.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
It's coming up next here from the tirerack dot Com Studios.
Apparently there are business decisions that are being made in
the NFL by not only a player, but a team
as well. That'll get into Uh, we'll get into that conversation.
You'll hear from the player involved.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Next here on FSR, be sure to catch live editions
of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LeVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern,
three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Welcome back in to Kale and keryon o X Radio,
home of all of the talent that was under well
k X.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
K i X.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
On Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here from
the tire rack dot Com Studios. Uh so you're going
to hear from somebody who apparently made mistake last night.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
They made a mistake last night.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
That'll be yours the top next hour here, somebody on
the show not happy about it whatsoever. We'll have that
discussion for you. Your guys' thoughts on the Indianapolis Colts
deciding to stick with Joe Flacco as opposed to Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I think we knew that.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, at least I knew that unless unless Flacco flamed out.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I mean, how bad is it? Yeah? It was it
a flaming I don't think it would look like a
flame out.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Wasn't a flaming Flacco. It was Ah, I feel like
the flames ignited. I don't know that he's on fire.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, well that's fair.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I mean, how bad must it be for Anthony Richardson
that even after Flacco's performed, he's turned them all over
six times since he's taken over.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
There has to have been more of the story, and
it can't just be about the tapping out thing.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Yeah, there has to be more to that story.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Because it feels like that was the last straw, not
that that was the first thing that's happened.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You know, they can't.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Like I said, I didn't feel like that was egregious
enough to pull them out, So I tend to follow
follow that thought process.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
There has to be something else more there.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
You're not like all it was unique.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Yeah, I've never seen a quarterback door before historical.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
It was definitely unique.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, but I mean tapping out because you were tired.
As bad as it sounds, I still don't know that.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Did someone do that against Tyson? They just turned around
there like, yeah, I'm not gonna Tyson tapped out. I
was at that fight. Was that holy Field?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
No, it was like his last fight. I forget who
it was against.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
It was in d C.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
He tapped out
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