December 17, 2024 • 39 mins
Bill Belichick addresses the lack of interest from NFL teams. James Franklin points fingers after his backup QB enters the transfer portal. And the Chiefs should sit Patrick Mahomes instead of pushing him through injury..
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The way tire buying should be so Bill Belichick after
making his decision to take the North Carolina job. He
was talking on the Let's Go podcast with Jim Gray
and was asked about the situation, and you know, what
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opportunities in the NFL there might have been.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Do you feel as though you might have had and
would have had opportunities in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
You know, that's a hard question to answer, Jim, because
ultimately those aren't my decisions. But sure, I think there
would have been some interest. But uh, in the end,
really it's not about what there could have been or
would have been. It was about the opportunity at North Carolina.
And I just think this program is at the right
spot now to to take off. Chancellor Roberts and the
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board of trustees have made a strong commitment to toward
football at North Carolina, and I'm here with Mike, Mike
Lombardi as our general manager to uh do all we
can to accelerate that process. And we're we're gonna, we're
gonna get the team, you know, make it as competitive
whose can as soon as we can.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah, he's in coach mode. Baby, he's back.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
You heard it, heard he's more in him.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, I got your personality right. Here, he says, well, yes,
that I'd changed. Huh, I still got it. Well, you
know what happened to the guys? What happened to the
Pat McAfee guys.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
All that, what happened to the walk of shame he
did in Nantucky with your.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Chest hairs out? But Taco Meek, what happened with it all.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Gone gone, man up and vanished like a fart in
the wind?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Does that mean she's out? She's still in?
Speaker 5 (04:28):
No shit, come on, she's in.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Please.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It is when when you look at the number of
bad teams around the league and look, you can just
look back to what we saw last night. Whether you
want to talk about you know, just the Bears. We'll
get into the Raiders conversation later.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The Falcons telling me that Bill Belichick couldn't fix the Bears.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That blows my mind that that guy didn't not It's
something he didn't get a job. He didn't get a
sniff Like the Bears could have called him after they
fired Matt Eberflusin had a conversation, he would have been
open to it. He reached out the Jets. There was
interest there, like nobody thought, hey, maybe we should kick
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the tires on this thing.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
He's the greatest coach because.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
These teams, these teams like it's they're like the owners
hobbies and stuff like that, and nobody wants like I'll
just I just remember when when they hired Marty Schottenheimer
my second year in the league, and they were like,
he's got to go, Like okay, one year in they
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got rid of him because they just couldn't handle the
fact that his standard and his expectations and his actions
all we were in line. They all were in lockstep
with one another, and it was you know, it was
not well received. It was not well received. I don't
get it, man, I just don't think that. I think
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Bill Belichick is now finding himself, at.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Least hopefully for his sake.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He finds himself in a situation where the employer understands
exactly what he wants, which is total control.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
If he was if he was ten years younger, it's
just even a conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Uh, if he's younger with his resume, Yeah, I don't.
I still think it's an issue. I still think it's
an issue if he is perceived to be the person
that he is now, whether younger or older, because it's
the it's the level of control that that makes these
these teams uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
If he wants to have total total control of what's
taking place, then what does that mean for me in
my job? At any given point in time, he could
look at me and there could be losing going on,
or frustration going on, or I don't get.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
To do my job the way that I've been doing.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It, whatever it is that that's taking place, and he
could look at me and be like, yeah, I want
him out of here.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
So like an intimidation factor.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They don't want that. That is wild. They don't want that.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I can't like, I can't imagine you're getting ready to
cook a meal. There's a knock at the door and
someone says, hey, the greatest chef of all time has
you know some thoughts he'd like to share with you,
and me looking at me like kiss my ass, buddy.
As surprisingly as that may sound, Walm's coming by in
fifteen minutes, like what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We got I got my own castle role recipe. I
do things this way in this manner. We make this
and we eat this. Our traditions are our traditions. So
thank you, but good good night and god, bless.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Make any sense, right, makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I'd be like, hey, come on in, man, when Hell's.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Kitchen in my cape.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
When you got to the league, could you imagine telling
Bruce Smith like Bruce I got this step aside, like
like Bruce.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, oh well, I can't imagine that. I never told him.
I never said that.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's just like at some point, like you have to,
like people have earned their reputation and they're called.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Bruce the black rubber Band, did you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Because he was like an elastic dude, like, you know,
like elastic man, like he bruh that dude, and he's
you know, he's dark. So I called him to that's
the black rubber band.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I've seen that.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Put The way he contorted his body like he he's
like so flexible, bro, Like so flexible in his arms,
his hips. Like the things that he was doing to
two blockers was un I understand why he's the sack
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leader of all time, bro. Like, sure he can teach
you what it is that that he does, and he did.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
He tied a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But you're not going to do it like him because
you don't move like him. But you'd listen, hell, yeah,
I listened though, like that was total off subject, but
it's spread up in me.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
But it's the same thing. He's the greatest sacker Belichick.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, man, Bill, listen.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
If I could bring Bill Belichick in and I knew
I could keep him happy and and he could stay happy.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And be motivated, that to me is a no brainer. Man,
that's a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I don't understand how a bad football team.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Can sit there and judge one of the greatest coaches,
if not great as NFL coach of all time. It
makes no It makes no sense to me, but it
should make all the sense in the world. Like last year,
why do you think they stink?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I could understand last year from the standpoint of he
just left New England.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It did not end well, and.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Maybe people need to have a little break of Belichick
before they bring him back. I could understand that to
a certain point. And look, the Falcons interviewed him. Dude,
you had a couple of teams that could have intro.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
What was the report that came out of Atlanta? I mean,
front office didn't want it. It just nobody wants to
deal with somebody who's going to come you know. I
won't name the company. But I'll say this. I can
recall going to a company. I brought this product, dope
ass product. It was a training product, and I couldn't
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understand why they wouldn't do more in getting behind the product.
And we did tons of work with it, tons of
concept proving went really well, but no one ever did anything.
You know, you come back, you start looking back on it,
You talk to people after the fact, this, that, and
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the other. You move on, and it was like, people
don't want to take a risk on something that may
impact the company fiscally, and if it impacts them fiscally,
then now you've put yourself in the crosshairs of being
judged and measured for losing money for the company. So,
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in other words, so what you're saying is is that
you've been hired to do a job to make this
a more successful company. But when it comes down to it,
you have your job and what you do is what's
asked of you. You do the bare minimum of what
your job is so that you don't put yourself in
the cross hairs of actually possibly making taking a chance
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of making the company better even if it doesn't necessarily work.
You don't want to lose your job, and that's what
you're dealing with at the NFL level. You have people
that have jobs that don't want to do anything that's
going to cost them their job. But at the same time,
they're in a position where they need to make decisions
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that will ultimately help the organization to move further and
do better and present a better offering of what the
product is. But they won't do it. They'll do what
they're asked to do and nothing more, nothing less, so
that they're not judged in a way where they lose
their job. And someone like Bill Belichick will challenge that
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notion and challenge that culture and challenge that belief, and
people aren't going to be willing to bring somebody like
that on board.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
It's wild. If you are an habitually bad football team.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And you have been for years and years and years,
you have lost all right and privilege to be able
to tell the greatest coach of all time, no, we're
all good here.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
You've lost that right. It's over. That's it, like it
is on.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You've had plenty of opportunities to figure this thing out
and you haven't been able to figure this thing out.
So if somebody like that is there and available, and
I don't want to hear about his age and all
the other complaints that there might be along wall. You know,
he couldn't do it without Tom Brady. I got news
for you. Whose decision was it to go with Brady
over the guy that they just gave one hundred million
dollars two back in the day, Belichick? So let's not
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forget about his part and that success that they had
for two plus decades. There just this idea that that
is out there and teams are now, we're all good here,
all right. That's why you're a bad team. That's why
you're a bad organization. Just never fails. By the way,
I had a question for you about rubber bands. Could
you mention, yeah, Bruce Smith was the black rubber band, Like,
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how prevalent are rubber bands now?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Because I don't know that I see it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't know that I see a lot of them,
and they used to be everywhere back in the day.
And I have a follow up question as well too,
because I don't know if this was just in my
household for some reason, the rubber bands always ended up
on the door knobs, like they would just be wrapped
around the doorknobs where you never know when you need
a rubber band on it or something. No, what what
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was it?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What was the rubber bands? I don't know that was
a good rubber band shooter. I'll tell you that I
could shoot a gum band.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
And and did you ever like used to like get
bored in class and take your rubber band and take
a paper clip and shoot them into the ceiling.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Did you ever do that?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
No? I was trying to degenerative. Oh not Yeah, I
wasn't naming that people. Yeah, you just be sitting there,
sit there, and you're at your desk. You pull that
thing down just like a ceiling like this, and you
just shoot that joint.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
It goes stick right into the ceiling.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Maybe that's the weapon of choice to get rid of
the cockroaches around here. We can just start gaming.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I mean I haven't seen cockroaches, but if we do
see them and we have a gumband I used to
have a sling shot, and I used to like a
real one, like like if you like were like a professional.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I had so many different different weapons in Maryland, man,
but I had I had to sling shot br and
on everything. That sling shot was so freaking accurate. Bro,
I won't tell you what. I'll tell you off air
what I used to do with it. But that bad
boy was accurate. Bruh. And you're accurate. I've seen you
shoot up TVs in here. You're you're pretty accurate as
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it is. I mean, I don't miss, you don't. Even
if I'm using the air gun, I don't. I don't
know what or to blow gun like. I don't miss. Definitely.
I pulled out that that air rocket launcher. I don't miss.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
My my buddy and I are on a cruz to
Mexico and we're in en Sonata to Mexico at a
place called Mango Mango.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
And I thought I was going to say mango deck.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh no, we are getting butchered, just buckets of beer
after buckets of beer, and then people start coming around
and they're selling you items of course and mango deck.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Well, we didn't realize that you can't haggle. The price
they give you doesn't mean that that's the price you
have to pay. My buddy worked this poor lady down
a slingshot. He bought a sling shot with a leather
band and everything. He wered like She started at fifteen dollars.
By the time it was over, I think she paid
him twenty five oh Man paid h oh brilliant And
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he ended up taking it back on the cruise ship
and brought it back home. And I looked at I
was like, why do you have that? It's I don't know, are.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
You just drunken?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
United? They're not a gang?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Oh sweet man?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Is this mango? Mango?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Also a Papasan beer?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, it's right across from Papa's and beer I think
in downtown and that's nada.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
My stomach is burning right now listening to you talk
about beer.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
And what is it.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Well, there's Papa some beer.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It just sounds like SUTs and spuds, like like some
nice Uh what are those potatoes called the that that
are fried? You know, I'm talking about French fries. No,
not French fries, gyros not gyros? Are they gyros?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Your ros?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Your ross? A?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Man?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Are you.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Rounded? No?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
No, they're they're rounded pieces of potato. They have breading
on them and like you know, sells them the pizza place.
What's the pizza place?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Man? You can't think of it.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
You just talking about spuds, spots, spuds.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Is that what they're called? Though I call them spuds.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I call them spots too, but they call them something else.
They call them something else. But I'm really hungry right now. Potato,
I've been dieting. It's not good.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
It's called a tornado potato. I see some people call
it that sweet.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Sounds good? Okay, well, listen. It is Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar
Arrington Jonas knocks.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
One pro and the cup of Joe. It's one and one.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Hey coming up next to though, tip of the cap,
tip of the cape, tip the cap, tip of the
cap to somebody that LaVar Arrington knows very very well
in the world of sports. You will hear from him
next here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
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Speaker 3 (18:47):
We are going to have a discussion about one team
in the NFL who might be playing it a little safe,
might be playing it a little safe this upcoming weekend.
We'll explain why that's yours here on FSR. LeVar Arrington.
This is something that is near and dear to your heart.
We are Penn State. Okay, Bo Prabula, the backup quarterback
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for the Nitney Lions. Some people kind of, you know,
give a little bit of a side eye because he
has entered the portal.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well would you give him a side Well.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's that's the question that James Franklin was asking himself
because instead of looking at what the problem was with
the decision by Bo Prabula the backup quarterback there, he
instead pointed the finger at college football.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Bo Prabula did not want to leave our program, and
he did not want to leave our program until the
end of the season. But the way the portal is
and the timing of it, and the way our team
is playing, and when you play the position a quarterback
and there's only one spot and those spots are filling up,
he felt like he was put in a no win situation.
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And I agree with him, so defending his guy and
calling them.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean, but there was what what what was inaccurate
about what coach said?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Nothing right?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
It's like that that's the flaw in the system.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I don't understand why the portal would open up two
take take young men away from like put them in
a position where they can't even finish the season that
they're putting in. And granted, like he's not playing much,
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that's why he's transferring. And Drew Aller is apparently he
announced that he's coming back. Yeah, so that's the The
idea of it is is that okay, both Pabulah could
be a starting quarterback pretty much at at you name it,
you picked the university, he could be starting there. He
could be starting at ben State, to be honest, and
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and so for him to have to make the decision
before for completing the season, I just think there's something
wrong with that just because of the way things are
like kind of set up.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
In the way they recruit.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It's almost like in a way, it's like somebody who
who's held on to and they're not given the opportunity
to test free agency when free agency opens, you know
what I mean, Like they're still playing, but there's other
teams that are now moving on with building their teams
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for next year. And you heard the reports, you know
of coaches and recruiters saying to players they don't want
you playing in the Bowl game and stuff like that,
and you know, it's such a competitive market space.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
The portal is.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oversaturated with college players that have dreams of going to
a different college, whether it be a bigger college, whether
it be a different college.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That it's a lot or move.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But you may have an opportunity to play more going
to a different school. I mean, if you miss out
on the opportunity, bo por Beulah could be in a
situation where he enters the portal and there's no where
nowhere really good for him to land or end up
trying to to finish out his college career. So I
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just whatever it is that needs to be addressed in
that manner should definitely be looked at moving into the future,
because it shouldn't be forcing kids to end their seasons
prematurely just because they're going to, you know, opt into
going to the portal.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And it's also because people could look at it and say, well,
it means the backup, what's the big deal? Hey, listen, man,
he's played this year. It's not like he's not played.
And if something happens to Drew Rowler, who are they
going to turn to? They would turn to both.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
They have turned to bow, not even based off of
Drew play saying poorly or anything like that. He has
been a part of the game plan for for Penn State.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And we've seen backup quarterbacks have to come in. I mean,
do we have to go over the Jalen Hurts to
a tugob I Lois situation, We have to go to
Ohio State who had to go you know, a third
string quarterback back in the day when when card L
Jones came in to try and win a national title.
Like you've seen backup quarterbacks, especially talented ones like Pabula
who have had to come in and play big time games.
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He just he doesn't have like I feel like there's
And I was talking. It's funny because I was talking
to the coach of Saint John Bosco, which is one
of the best players, Jason Negro.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And I was talking to all right, god, oh no,
that's Rob Parker, and I've had some fun with that
on there. But so I was talking to him and
he was kind of making the point that, you know,
one of the other issues that's popped up is that
next year college rosters are dropping, so you're you're going
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to have fewer players to be able to offer scholarships too.
He said, So what's happening is a lot of coaches
around college football are telling and encouraging players to enter
the portal because there's just not opportunities because they're the
scholarships are being reduced. And he gave me an example
of a guy that he knows that he coached in
high school that was in Stanford. It was at Stanford
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on a scholarship and wanted to graduate and get his degree,
and he's got a few units left. He's going into
his fourth year and the coach said, we don't have
any room for you. So now he's going to have
to transfer out and go somewhere else and then have
to pay to finish to get his degree at Stanford.
And he said, one of the things people want to
talk about is that you're on a lot of one
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year deals.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
It's not like you just it's a four year full deal.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
He goes, it's year to year on these scholarships, and
so every year, especially now, you're being reassessed not just
the players, but the but the programs as well too.
That's right, and just they're being put in a bad spot.
And it's not just a cash grab for players, like
they're trying to find out what's the best both.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Chambula is leaving and that's not a cash grab for Bo.
That is truly he should be on somebody's team playing.
And the fact that like okay, if Drew Aler leaves,
Bo stays. Drew Aller opted to stay another year. So
Bow is looking for the opportunity to be a starter elsewhere.
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Nobody wants to sit three four years in college waiting
for an opportunity to play, not if you're as good
as Bo Babula is. So it is what it is.
I wish him the best. If anybody's side eyeing him,
it's no different than what we talked about earlier in
the show. There's just some people that love to have
a problem with other people because you don't want to
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look at yourself and have a problem with yourself. So,
you know, if you have a problem with Bo, you know,
I don't know what to tell you. I think it's
a if you're going to use the portal, the transfer portal,
what he's using it for actually should be what the
portal was for. Yeah, you know that's that's He's done
it the right way from day one, so I don't
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see how people would have an issue with him going
and trying to seek another another opportunity. I mean, Will
Levis did the same thing. We had Will Levis at
Penn State. Will Levis left for Kentucky. Look at how
that worked out. He stays there, maybe he doesn't beat
out Clifford, and for what is worth, cliff Dog is
(26:35):
still trying to you know, he's not going to He's
not ever going to say if he could go into
the portal for maybe not. I mean, he'll probably you know,
be behind Jordan Love. But the point is is that
Will Levis ended up going somewhere, having a strong enough
career where he was a high draft pick and started
for the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Ay LEAs Shawn Clifford still with Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
No, he's another back Relie Willis right, Yeah, but he's
still on I think he's still on the Ross.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
What up with the cliff Dog still there? Yeah, he's
still there.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Why didn't you hang out with him at that you
know claw machine that filled with rubber duckies.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I should have hit him up, John Clifford LeVar hook
you up with that.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, I just I don't know, man, and and the
other part of this, I think probably from Boprabula as
well too, that he that's that's probably a bummer is
not getting to be a part of that atmosphere this
weekend because yeah, he's a backup quarterback, but he does play.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
There were packages for him.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
He's been called upon before, just getting a taste of
what State College was like for a home game back
when we went out and did the show from the
graduate there, just to be a part of the first
ever playoff game.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And he can't do it.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, Like that sucks, man, Like that sucks. And it's
all because the timing of this and and and why
college football has it the way that they have it,
and I it feels like this is just another example
of a flawed system and there's going to be the athletes,
(28:15):
the players that are getting the criticism for some of
these moves. When we love the rant from Q on
this because you know he'd have a rant on this.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
First of all.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
And I keep saying this hold on.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It does suck. So but I wish them all the best,
honestly I do.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Dude, go to Hawaii, man, screw it, No, don't go
to Hawaii. Give me, give me a give me something
to uh, something to look forward to next year when
I'm the only person watching those games on whatever that
app is. That app is called like there's some some
app where you can watch Yes, no kidding, are you
kidding me? I wish what's in Let me find the
(28:58):
name of this this app. This is the only place
you can watch Hawaii games. Just how pathetic I am.
We'll find this app real quick.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Hold on.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It's called Team one Sports. Oh wow, they got.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Like high school games in Dubai and like you can
watch an equestrian race in Indonesia along with the Hawaii
Rainbow Warriors as they take on San Jose State at
at one am in the morning East Coast time. And
I'm the only one sitting there watching it, So they could.
I encourage everybody to get out there to Hawaii. If
(29:29):
you're looking to enter the portal, let's go out and
play for Timmy Chang and just start slinging it around
a little bit. Yeah, it is two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, Jonas Knox
with you. I'm trying, man, trying to get us to
do a show out there. You know, I mean now
I would go for that. I would enjoy that. I
just went and go there to play Waikiki for us,
(29:51):
all right, So uh.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Was kind to me?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
All right?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So coming up next here, though, we are going to
find out whether or not one team in the NFL
is going to play it safe this upcoming weekend with
their superstar that's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
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after we get off the air. So I didn't know
that this was a real thing. Tell me if this
makes any sense to you. So, Patrick Mahomes is a
high ankle sprain, but the chiefs don't think old. Yeah,
(31:09):
they say it's mild.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Okay. So I've always been under.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
The impression that a high ankle sprain is the one
that you don't want, you don't want, Okay, that's the truth.
But this one's mild. So does a mild high ankle
sprain equate to a bad low ankle sprain?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
That is that how this works or how's this?
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I don't think. I don't think you have to compare them.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
A high ankle sprain is a high ankle sprain, Like,
that's the bottom line, And that's the worst one to have.
It's the most painful one to have. Whether it's mild,
whether it's it's severe. I just think that it's the
amount of time that you're going to be out your
it's it really comes down to your tolerance, your pain
tolerance threshold when it when you're talking about and there
is mobility issues there as well, I would assume when
(32:01):
saying a mild aud high ankle spraying means that it
could have been worse and this could have been like
a season ending like length of time that that ankle
injury had. But it maybe isn't a season ender, so
(32:21):
moud as in it it's addressable and rehabible for him
to make it back in enough time to play X game.
I don't know if it's regular season. It sounds like
it may it may be regular season.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Well, so let me ask you this because and I
know what we've talked about, and I forget what player
was involved, but kind of the idea of resting, you know, like,
do you do you play it safe? And I just
wonder if you're And by the way, Adam Schefter, who's
been very busy on social media over the last twenty
four hours, oh has he really.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
He said that the Chiefs don't think this injury is bad,
but that being said, it's still an injury.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And you're in the.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Middle of this three game and eleven day gauntlet that
Patrick Mahomes actually spoke about last week and saying, look,
you know, it doesn't feel great that we've got to
play through this, you know, because they've got the game
coming up on Saturday against Houston. They've got the Christmas
game against the Steelers. So my thought is, if you're
Kansas City, you've got a two game cushion on Buffalo.
(33:27):
If you finish tied with Buffalo, they have the tiebreaker
because they beat the Chiefs earlier this year. But you've
got a two game cushion. Do you just play it safe?
Rest Mahomes this weekend against Houston. Let Carson Wentz, it's
a home game, go out there and sling it around
a little bit. Maybe you've got an opportunity to beat Houston.
It wouldn't be that big of a shock, and you
(33:47):
beat the Texans, or even if you lose to the Texans,
but you give Mahomes some rest so that you have
him ready to go to Pittsburgh on Christmas. That feels
like it would make the most sense. I just don't
know if they would want to even take a chance
with this. I just think you got a two game
lead and a two game cushion over Buffalo right now.
(34:09):
Just you need Mahomes to be as healthy as possible,
and if you can cheat and get them an extra
game off at this point in the season, that seems
like it would make the most sense to me.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The Texans is going to be a hard game, but
they have them at home. Do you believe you can
beat the Texans with a moud ankle spray and not
make it worse for Patrick Mahomes. If the answer is yes,
and Patrick is willing to go, then you do it.
(34:41):
If the answer is no, then you do not do it. Okay,
so you don't do it. Play the Texans. Then you
have the Steelers and you got to travel to the Steelers.
Do you believe that Patrick Mahomes is healthy enough to
make the trick? Because flying is tough on joints like
that and the injuries like that. So do you do
(35:05):
you fly them in and do you believe that he
will be able to play the game at a high
enough level in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
If you believe he is, and.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Patrick Mahomes is willing to go, and everybody is in agreement,
then you take them. And I think that that is
the continued theme here is that that should be the
same thought process going into the Broncos game. It's going
to come down to making sure he doesn't injure himself
(35:38):
more injure something else because he's overcompensating for the high
ankle sprain that he has currently. You don't want them
to reinjure it. You don't want them to get hurt
any further. And can he tolerate the pain to do it.
We've seen him play with with you know, lower leg
injuries before he went through the playoffs. The one year
(36:00):
here with a with a bad ankle, I believe it was.
So we've seen them do it. And then you got
to keep in mind they also if they rehabbing well enough,
they got the nectars of the god as the gods
as well, that can play a part. And you you
catch you catch one of those, You catch those darts
and you're gonna be able to get through the game.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You give those go, well, that's a that's a good
for the palette for the high ankle sprain. A little
little dose of the nectar, you'll.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Be able to get through.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Man. I'll tell you that if if it's doable, if
if it were doable, like I'm right there at it
where it could be doable, and you get the nectars
of the gods, you could do it. Would you rather
have a shot of tequila? Or a shot of torent
oh tortoll. Oh man, I would look at bro, I
(36:48):
look at like I mean, and it's only like a shot.
There's no calories, like I don't have to worry about
a beer gut or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
You just bet.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
But the only thing about it is is that it's
not like it's a feeling. Though it's not a feeling,
you know, like you drink the tequila. The tequila gives
you like a feeling. Imagine tourt all just takes all
the pain away and you don't feel any pain.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
You imagine that you can go to a bar.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
You're bellied up to the bar and you look up
and you're like, all right, what are we drinking to
and you other bartender gives you the what are we drinking?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Boss?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And then you just look up there and you see
it's a bottle of tourt all with a javelin in
the top that they.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Pull out and get literally feel that's kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Damn. How much would you charge for a shot of
tourtollf you run of the bar?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
If I was running a bar, yeah, oh man, that'd
be like one hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Lee, what's the most expensive shot you can get at
a bar right.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Now, Like what you could get Louis Louie is like
two hundred some digs. When I owned the restaurant, I
sold Louis for like two twenty five a shot.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I grabbed a shot of Louis when I got the
call that we had the show.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Is that Louis the fourteenth?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Something like that? Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I was at a bar, of course, when I got
the call, I was like, all right, let me get
a shot of Louis.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
My brother was bartending, and I had a buddy of
mine who was sitting at the bar, and some guy
walked up and he was trying to be a big shot,
and he was looking up at like the top shelf
bottles and he's like, hey man, how much for that? Uh,
Henry the fourteenth up there? He's like, my brothers, I'm sorry.
He was, yeah, Henry the fourteenth, the Henry up there.
(38:28):
I was like, I'm not familiar with Henry the fourteenth.
Oh you mean Louis the fourteenth. Oh you mean that
one right up there the top shelf. And he said, yeah, yeah,
that one, And he knew exactly what he was referring to.
He could have easily just played along with the guy
instead just made it a point to clown the guy
who was trying to order a top shelf shot, which
is what fifty bucks, one hundred bucks to do a
shot of that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I told you I was charging two hundred, bro and
they was doing it so toward all would be in
the two hundred range. Oh, easily two three hundred dollars.
What a great idea, A great idea if you're going
do it. Though I can't do that. I mean, I
don't see why you couldn't do it, but that would
be interesting. So Patrick Mahomes, just sit this week out,
(39:12):
you know, get ready for Pittsman. That might make the
most sense. Yeah, just get ready. Plus, it's Christmas.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
The NFL needs a ratings you know, they've got to
be able to, uh to make some money out of this,
So you know, just play play that Christmas game against Pittsburgh,
you know, sit this one out. Plus that'll make the
college games that much more watchable.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
It'd be interesting to see if he does play, though,
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Speaker 4 (00:49):
And needed a fatigue check too, seez.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Yeah, we're all a little banged up here.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Don't realize I was fatigued until I got in here,
but definitely feel it.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, we got problems. Brady's not here, Levars in the middle.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Of icing my foot, icing foot and trying to like
get my brain to go off hibernation mode.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, and it's also you know, you got, you know
a lot of stuff going on at home as far
as you know, getting things together before packing. Yeah, it's
that's just a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's so it's so crazy, man, Like we're we're going
to downsize because we're we're now going from having five
kids in the house to one, so we're downsizing. You know,
we'll still be with pin uh but but the twins
(01:46):
have to go. So it's just it's just a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Going on, man.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
And the holidays.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Oh man, but it's very very it's taxing on you.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
And then my car might have died on the way here, so.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And then there's that. But hey, you know, for what
is worth. We are here though, and Lea's back. So
so if anybody is wondering, well for long man not
with the decision making. He makes McNair, Oh Lee McNair.
(02:24):
Too soon, man, So it's too soon? Why but you're
not lying. I know that line he leave.
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The way tire buying should be so Bill Belichick after
making his decision to take the North Carolina job. He
was talking on the Let's Go podcast with Jim Gray
and was asked about the situation, and you know, what
(03:07):
opportunities in the NFL there might have been.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Do you feel as though you might have had and
would have had opportunities in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
You know, that's a hard question to answer, Jim, because
ultimately those aren't my decisions. But sure, I think there
would have been some interest. But uh, in the end,
really it's not about what there could have been or
would have been. It was about the opportunity at North Carolina.
And I just think this program is at the right
spot now to to take off. Chancellor Roberts and the
(03:35):
board of trustees have made a strong commitment to toward
football at North Carolina, and I'm here with Mike, Mike
Lombardi as our general manager to uh do all we
can to accelerate that process. And we're we're gonna, we're
gonna get the team, you know, make it as competitive
whose can as soon as we can.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah, he's in coach mode. Baby, he's back.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
You heard it, heard he's more in him.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, I got your personality right. Here, he says, well, yes,
that I'd changed. Huh, I still got it. Well, you
know what happened to the guys? What happened to the
Pat McAfee guys.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
All that, what happened to the walk of shame he
did in Nantucky with your.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Chest hairs out? But Taco Meek, what happened with it all.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Gone gone, man up and vanished like a fart in
the wind?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Does that mean she's out? She's still in?
Speaker 5 (04:28):
No shit, come on, she's in.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Please.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It is when when you look at the number of
bad teams around the league and look, you can just
look back to what we saw last night. Whether you
want to talk about you know, just the Bears. We'll
get into the Raiders conversation later.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The Falcons telling me that Bill Belichick couldn't fix the Bears.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That blows my mind that that guy didn't not It's
something he didn't get a job. He didn't get a
sniff Like the Bears could have called him after they
fired Matt Eberflusin had a conversation, he would have been
open to it. He reached out the Jets. There was
interest there, like nobody thought, hey, maybe we should kick
(05:18):
the tires on this thing.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
He's the greatest coach because.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
These teams, these teams like it's they're like the owners
hobbies and stuff like that, and nobody wants like I'll
just I just remember when when they hired Marty Schottenheimer
my second year in the league, and they were like,
he's got to go, Like okay, one year in they
(05:42):
got rid of him because they just couldn't handle the
fact that his standard and his expectations and his actions
all we were in line. They all were in lockstep
with one another, and it was you know, it was
not well received. It was not well received. I don't
get it, man, I just don't think that. I think
(06:04):
Bill Belichick is now finding himself, at.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Least hopefully for his sake.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He finds himself in a situation where the employer understands
exactly what he wants, which is total control.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
If he was if he was ten years younger, it's
just even a conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Uh, if he's younger with his resume, Yeah, I don't.
I still think it's an issue. I still think it's
an issue if he is perceived to be the person
that he is now, whether younger or older, because it's
the it's the level of control that that makes these
these teams uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
If he wants to have total total control of what's
taking place, then what does that mean for me in
my job? At any given point in time, he could
look at me and there could be losing going on,
or frustration going on, or I don't get.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
To do my job the way that I've been doing.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It, whatever it is that that's taking place, and he
could look at me and be like, yeah, I want
him out of here.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
So like an intimidation factor.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They don't want that. That is wild. They don't want that.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I can't like, I can't imagine you're getting ready to
cook a meal. There's a knock at the door and
someone says, hey, the greatest chef of all time has
you know some thoughts he'd like to share with you,
and me looking at me like kiss my ass, buddy.
As surprisingly as that may sound, Walm's coming by in
fifteen minutes, like what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We got I got my own castle role recipe. I
do things this way in this manner. We make this
and we eat this. Our traditions are our traditions. So
thank you, but good good night and god, bless.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Make any sense, right, makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I'd be like, hey, come on in, man, when Hell's.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Kitchen in my cape.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
When you got to the league, could you imagine telling
Bruce Smith like Bruce I got this step aside, like
like Bruce.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, oh well, I can't imagine that. I never told him.
I never said that.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's just like at some point, like you have to,
like people have earned their reputation and they're called.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Bruce the black rubber Band, did you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Because he was like an elastic dude, like, you know,
like elastic man, like he bruh that dude, and he's
you know, he's dark. So I called him to that's
the black rubber band.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I've seen that.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Put The way he contorted his body like he he's
like so flexible, bro, Like so flexible in his arms,
his hips. Like the things that he was doing to
two blockers was un I understand why he's the sack
(09:10):
leader of all time, bro. Like, sure he can teach
you what it is that that he does, and he did.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
He tied a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But you're not going to do it like him because
you don't move like him. But you'd listen, hell, yeah,
I listened though, like that was total off subject, but
it's spread up in me.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
But it's the same thing. He's the greatest sacker Belichick.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, man, Bill, listen.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
If I could bring Bill Belichick in and I knew
I could keep him happy and and he could stay happy.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And be motivated, that to me is a no brainer. Man,
that's a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I don't understand how a bad football team.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Can sit there and judge one of the greatest coaches,
if not great as NFL coach of all time. It
makes no It makes no sense to me, but it
should make all the sense in the world. Like last year,
why do you think they stink?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I could understand last year from the standpoint of he
just left New England.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It did not end well, and.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Maybe people need to have a little break of Belichick
before they bring him back. I could understand that to
a certain point. And look, the Falcons interviewed him. Dude,
you had a couple of teams that could have intro.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
What was the report that came out of Atlanta? I mean,
front office didn't want it. It just nobody wants to
deal with somebody who's going to come you know. I
won't name the company. But I'll say this. I can
recall going to a company. I brought this product, dope
ass product. It was a training product, and I couldn't
(10:54):
understand why they wouldn't do more in getting behind the product.
And we did tons of work with it, tons of
concept proving went really well, but no one ever did anything.
You know, you come back, you start looking back on it,
You talk to people after the fact, this, that, and
(11:14):
the other. You move on, and it was like, people
don't want to take a risk on something that may
impact the company fiscally, and if it impacts them fiscally,
then now you've put yourself in the crosshairs of being
judged and measured for losing money for the company. So,
(11:40):
in other words, so what you're saying is is that
you've been hired to do a job to make this
a more successful company. But when it comes down to it,
you have your job and what you do is what's
asked of you. You do the bare minimum of what
your job is so that you don't put yourself in
the cross hairs of actually possibly making taking a chance
(12:02):
of making the company better even if it doesn't necessarily work.
You don't want to lose your job, and that's what
you're dealing with at the NFL level. You have people
that have jobs that don't want to do anything that's
going to cost them their job. But at the same time,
they're in a position where they need to make decisions
(12:23):
that will ultimately help the organization to move further and
do better and present a better offering of what the
product is. But they won't do it. They'll do what
they're asked to do and nothing more, nothing less, so
that they're not judged in a way where they lose
their job. And someone like Bill Belichick will challenge that
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notion and challenge that culture and challenge that belief, and
people aren't going to be willing to bring somebody like
that on board.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
It's wild. If you are an habitually bad football team.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And you have been for years and years and years,
you have lost all right and privilege to be able
to tell the greatest coach of all time, no, we're
all good here.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
You've lost that right. It's over. That's it, like it
is on.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You've had plenty of opportunities to figure this thing out
and you haven't been able to figure this thing out.
So if somebody like that is there and available, and
I don't want to hear about his age and all
the other complaints that there might be along wall. You know,
he couldn't do it without Tom Brady. I got news
for you. Whose decision was it to go with Brady
over the guy that they just gave one hundred million
dollars two back in the day, Belichick? So let's not
(13:38):
forget about his part and that success that they had
for two plus decades. There just this idea that that
is out there and teams are now, we're all good here,
all right. That's why you're a bad team. That's why
you're a bad organization. Just never fails. By the way,
I had a question for you about rubber bands. Could
you mention, yeah, Bruce Smith was the black rubber band, Like,
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how prevalent are rubber bands now?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Because I don't know that I see it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't know that I see a lot of them,
and they used to be everywhere back in the day.
And I have a follow up question as well too,
because I don't know if this was just in my
household for some reason, the rubber bands always ended up
on the door knobs, like they would just be wrapped
around the doorknobs where you never know when you need
a rubber band on it or something. No, what what
(14:25):
was it?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What was the rubber bands? I don't know that was
a good rubber band shooter. I'll tell you that I
could shoot a gum band.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
And and did you ever like used to like get
bored in class and take your rubber band and take
a paper clip and shoot them into the ceiling.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Did you ever do that?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
No? I was trying to degenerative. Oh not Yeah, I
wasn't naming that people. Yeah, you just be sitting there,
sit there, and you're at your desk. You pull that
thing down just like a ceiling like this, and you
just shoot that joint.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
It goes stick right into the ceiling.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Maybe that's the weapon of choice to get rid of
the cockroaches around here. We can just start gaming.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I mean I haven't seen cockroaches, but if we do
see them and we have a gumband I used to
have a sling shot, and I used to like a
real one, like like if you like were like a professional.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I had so many different different weapons in Maryland, man,
but I had I had to sling shot br and
on everything. That sling shot was so freaking accurate. Bro,
I won't tell you what. I'll tell you off air
what I used to do with it. But that bad
boy was accurate. Bruh. And you're accurate. I've seen you
shoot up TVs in here. You're you're pretty accurate as
(15:42):
it is. I mean, I don't miss, you don't. Even
if I'm using the air gun, I don't. I don't
know what or to blow gun like. I don't miss. Definitely.
I pulled out that that air rocket launcher. I don't miss.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
My my buddy and I are on a cruz to
Mexico and we're in en Sonata to Mexico at a
place called Mango Mango.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
And I thought I was going to say mango deck.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh no, we are getting butchered, just buckets of beer
after buckets of beer, and then people start coming around
and they're selling you items of course and mango deck.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Well, we didn't realize that you can't haggle. The price
they give you doesn't mean that that's the price you
have to pay. My buddy worked this poor lady down
a slingshot. He bought a sling shot with a leather
band and everything. He wered like She started at fifteen dollars.
By the time it was over, I think she paid
him twenty five oh Man paid h oh brilliant And
(16:38):
he ended up taking it back on the cruise ship
and brought it back home. And I looked at I
was like, why do you have that? It's I don't know, are.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
You just drunken?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
United? They're not a gang?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Oh sweet man?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Is this mango? Mango?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Also a Papasan beer?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, it's right across from Papa's and beer I think
in downtown and that's nada.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
My stomach is burning right now listening to you talk
about beer.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
And what is it.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Well, there's Papa some beer.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It just sounds like SUTs and spuds, like like some
nice Uh what are those potatoes called the that that
are fried? You know, I'm talking about French fries. No,
not French fries, gyros not gyros? Are they gyros?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Your ros?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Your ross? A?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Man?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Are you.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Rounded? No?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
No, they're they're rounded pieces of potato. They have breading
on them and like you know, sells them the pizza place.
What's the pizza place?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Man? You can't think of it.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
You just talking about spuds, spots, spuds.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Is that what they're called? Though I call them spuds.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I call them spots too, but they call them something else.
They call them something else. But I'm really hungry right now. Potato,
I've been dieting. It's not good.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
It's called a tornado potato. I see some people call
it that sweet.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Sounds good? Okay, well, listen. It is Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar
Arrington Jonas knocks.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
One pro and the cup of Joe. It's one and one.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Hey coming up next to though, tip of the cap,
tip of the cape, tip the cap, tip of the
cap to somebody that LaVar Arrington knows very very well
in the world of sports. You will hear from him
next here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
We are going to have a discussion about one team
in the NFL who might be playing it a little safe,
might be playing it a little safe this upcoming weekend.
We'll explain why that's yours here on FSR. LeVar Arrington.
This is something that is near and dear to your heart.
We are Penn State. Okay, Bo Prabula, the backup quarterback
(19:11):
for the Nitney Lions. Some people kind of, you know,
give a little bit of a side eye because he
has entered the portal.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well would you give him a side Well.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's that's the question that James Franklin was asking himself
because instead of looking at what the problem was with
the decision by Bo Prabula the backup quarterback there, he
instead pointed the finger at college football.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Bo Prabula did not want to leave our program, and
he did not want to leave our program until the
end of the season. But the way the portal is
and the timing of it, and the way our team
is playing, and when you play the position a quarterback
and there's only one spot and those spots are filling up,
he felt like he was put in a no win situation.
(19:58):
And I agree with him, so defending his guy and
calling them.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean, but there was what what what was inaccurate
about what coach said?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Nothing right?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
It's like that that's the flaw in the system.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I don't understand why the portal would open up two
take take young men away from like put them in
a position where they can't even finish the season that
they're putting in. And granted, like he's not playing much,
(20:32):
that's why he's transferring. And Drew Aller is apparently he
announced that he's coming back. Yeah, so that's the The
idea of it is is that okay, both Pabulah could
be a starting quarterback pretty much at at you name it,
you picked the university, he could be starting there. He
could be starting at ben State, to be honest, and
(20:55):
and so for him to have to make the decision
before for completing the season, I just think there's something
wrong with that just because of the way things are
like kind of set up.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
In the way they recruit.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It's almost like in a way, it's like somebody who
who's held on to and they're not given the opportunity
to test free agency when free agency opens, you know
what I mean, Like they're still playing, but there's other
teams that are now moving on with building their teams
(21:31):
for next year. And you heard the reports, you know
of coaches and recruiters saying to players they don't want
you playing in the Bowl game and stuff like that,
and you know, it's such a competitive market space.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
The portal is.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oversaturated with college players that have dreams of going to
a different college, whether it be a bigger college, whether
it be a different college.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
That it's a lot or move.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But you may have an opportunity to play more going
to a different school. I mean, if you miss out
on the opportunity, bo por Beulah could be in a
situation where he enters the portal and there's no where
nowhere really good for him to land or end up
trying to to finish out his college career. So I
(22:23):
just whatever it is that needs to be addressed in
that manner should definitely be looked at moving into the future,
because it shouldn't be forcing kids to end their seasons
prematurely just because they're going to, you know, opt into
going to the portal.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And it's also because people could look at it and say, well,
it means the backup, what's the big deal? Hey, listen, man,
he's played this year. It's not like he's not played.
And if something happens to Drew Rowler, who are they
going to turn to? They would turn to both.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
They have turned to bow, not even based off of
Drew play saying poorly or anything like that. He has
been a part of the game plan for for Penn State.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And we've seen backup quarterbacks have to come in. I mean,
do we have to go over the Jalen Hurts to
a tugob I Lois situation, We have to go to
Ohio State who had to go you know, a third
string quarterback back in the day when when card L
Jones came in to try and win a national title.
Like you've seen backup quarterbacks, especially talented ones like Pabula
who have had to come in and play big time games.
(23:27):
He just he doesn't have like I feel like there's
And I was talking. It's funny because I was talking
to the coach of Saint John Bosco, which is one
of the best players, Jason Negro.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And I was talking to all right, god, oh no,
that's Rob Parker, and I've had some fun with that
on there. But so I was talking to him and
he was kind of making the point that, you know,
one of the other issues that's popped up is that
next year college rosters are dropping, so you're you're going
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to have fewer players to be able to offer scholarships too.
He said, So what's happening is a lot of coaches
around college football are telling and encouraging players to enter
the portal because there's just not opportunities because they're the
scholarships are being reduced. And he gave me an example
of a guy that he knows that he coached in
high school that was in Stanford. It was at Stanford
(24:24):
on a scholarship and wanted to graduate and get his degree,
and he's got a few units left. He's going into
his fourth year and the coach said, we don't have
any room for you. So now he's going to have
to transfer out and go somewhere else and then have
to pay to finish to get his degree at Stanford.
And he said, one of the things people want to
talk about is that you're on a lot of one
(24:44):
year deals.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
It's not like you just it's a four year full deal.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
He goes, it's year to year on these scholarships, and
so every year, especially now, you're being reassessed not just
the players, but the but the programs as well too.
That's right, and just they're being put in a bad spot.
And it's not just a cash grab for players, like
they're trying to find out what's the best both.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Chambula is leaving and that's not a cash grab for Bo.
That is truly he should be on somebody's team playing.
And the fact that like okay, if Drew Aler leaves,
Bo stays. Drew Aller opted to stay another year. So
Bow is looking for the opportunity to be a starter elsewhere.
(25:30):
Nobody wants to sit three four years in college waiting
for an opportunity to play, not if you're as good
as Bo Babula is. So it is what it is.
I wish him the best. If anybody's side eyeing him,
it's no different than what we talked about earlier in
the show. There's just some people that love to have
a problem with other people because you don't want to
(25:52):
look at yourself and have a problem with yourself. So,
you know, if you have a problem with Bo, you know,
I don't know what to tell you. I think it's
a if you're going to use the portal, the transfer portal,
what he's using it for actually should be what the
portal was for. Yeah, you know that's that's He's done
it the right way from day one, so I don't
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see how people would have an issue with him going
and trying to seek another another opportunity. I mean, Will
Levis did the same thing. We had Will Levis at
Penn State. Will Levis left for Kentucky. Look at how
that worked out. He stays there, maybe he doesn't beat
out Clifford, and for what is worth, cliff Dog is
(26:35):
still trying to you know, he's not going to He's
not ever going to say if he could go into
the portal for maybe not. I mean, he'll probably you know,
be behind Jordan Love. But the point is is that
Will Levis ended up going somewhere, having a strong enough
career where he was a high draft pick and started
for the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Ay LEAs Shawn Clifford still with Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
No, he's another back Relie Willis right, Yeah, but he's
still on I think he's still on the Ross.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
What up with the cliff Dog still there? Yeah, he's
still there.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Why didn't you hang out with him at that you
know claw machine that filled with rubber duckies.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I should have hit him up, John Clifford LeVar hook
you up with that.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, I just I don't know, man, and and the
other part of this, I think probably from Boprabula as
well too, that he that's that's probably a bummer is
not getting to be a part of that atmosphere this
weekend because yeah, he's a backup quarterback, but he does play.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
There were packages for him.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
He's been called upon before, just getting a taste of
what State College was like for a home game back
when we went out and did the show from the
graduate there, just to be a part of the first
ever playoff game.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And he can't do it.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, Like that sucks, man, Like that sucks. And it's
all because the timing of this and and and why
college football has it the way that they have it,
and I it feels like this is just another example
of a flawed system and there's going to be the athletes,
(28:15):
the players that are getting the criticism for some of
these moves. When we love the rant from Q on
this because you know he'd have a rant on this.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
First of all.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
And I keep saying this hold on.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It does suck. So but I wish them all the best,
honestly I do.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Dude, go to Hawaii, man, screw it, No, don't go
to Hawaii. Give me, give me a give me something
to uh, something to look forward to next year when
I'm the only person watching those games on whatever that
app is. That app is called like there's some some
app where you can watch Yes, no kidding, are you
kidding me? I wish what's in Let me find the
(28:58):
name of this this app. This is the only place
you can watch Hawaii games. Just how pathetic I am.
We'll find this app real quick.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Hold on.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It's called Team one Sports. Oh wow, they got.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Like high school games in Dubai and like you can
watch an equestrian race in Indonesia along with the Hawaii
Rainbow Warriors as they take on San Jose State at
at one am in the morning East Coast time. And
I'm the only one sitting there watching it, So they could.
I encourage everybody to get out there to Hawaii. If
(29:29):
you're looking to enter the portal, let's go out and
play for Timmy Chang and just start slinging it around
a little bit. Yeah, it is two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, Jonas Knox
with you. I'm trying, man, trying to get us to
do a show out there. You know, I mean now
I would go for that. I would enjoy that. I
just went and go there to play Waikiki for us,
(29:51):
all right, So uh.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Was kind to me?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
All right?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So coming up next here, though, we are going to
find out whether or not one team in the NFL
is going to play it safe this upcoming weekend with
their superstar that's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific, Two.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Jonas Knox with you here coming up top next hour
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after we get off the air. So I didn't know
that this was a real thing. Tell me if this
makes any sense to you. So, Patrick Mahomes is a
high ankle sprain, but the chiefs don't think old. Yeah,
(31:09):
they say it's mild.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Okay. So I've always been under.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
The impression that a high ankle sprain is the one
that you don't want, you don't want, Okay, that's the truth.
But this one's mild. So does a mild high ankle
sprain equate to a bad low ankle sprain?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
That is that how this works or how's this?
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I don't think. I don't think you have to compare them.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
A high ankle sprain is a high ankle sprain, Like,
that's the bottom line, And that's the worst one to have.
It's the most painful one to have. Whether it's mild,
whether it's it's severe. I just think that it's the
amount of time that you're going to be out your
it's it really comes down to your tolerance, your pain
tolerance threshold when it when you're talking about and there
is mobility issues there as well, I would assume when
(32:01):
saying a mild aud high ankle spraying means that it
could have been worse and this could have been like
a season ending like length of time that that ankle
injury had. But it maybe isn't a season ender, so
(32:21):
moud as in it it's addressable and rehabible for him
to make it back in enough time to play X game.
I don't know if it's regular season. It sounds like
it may it may be regular season.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Well, so let me ask you this because and I
know what we've talked about, and I forget what player
was involved, but kind of the idea of resting, you know, like,
do you do you play it safe? And I just
wonder if you're And by the way, Adam Schefter, who's
been very busy on social media over the last twenty
four hours, oh has he really.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
He said that the Chiefs don't think this injury is bad,
but that being said, it's still an injury.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
And you're in the.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Middle of this three game and eleven day gauntlet that
Patrick Mahomes actually spoke about last week and saying, look,
you know, it doesn't feel great that we've got to
play through this, you know, because they've got the game
coming up on Saturday against Houston. They've got the Christmas
game against the Steelers. So my thought is, if you're
Kansas City, you've got a two game cushion on Buffalo.
(33:27):
If you finish tied with Buffalo, they have the tiebreaker
because they beat the Chiefs earlier this year. But you've
got a two game cushion. Do you just play it safe?
Rest Mahomes this weekend against Houston. Let Carson Wentz, it's
a home game, go out there and sling it around
a little bit. Maybe you've got an opportunity to beat Houston.
It wouldn't be that big of a shock, and you
(33:47):
beat the Texans, or even if you lose to the Texans,
but you give Mahomes some rest so that you have
him ready to go to Pittsburgh on Christmas. That feels
like it would make the most sense. I just don't
know if they would want to even take a chance
with this. I just think you got a two game
lead and a two game cushion over Buffalo right now.
(34:09):
Just you need Mahomes to be as healthy as possible,
and if you can cheat and get them an extra
game off at this point in the season, that seems
like it would make the most sense to me.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The Texans is going to be a hard game, but
they have them at home. Do you believe you can
beat the Texans with a moud ankle spray and not
make it worse for Patrick Mahomes. If the answer is yes,
and Patrick is willing to go, then you do it.
(34:41):
If the answer is no, then you do not do it. Okay,
so you don't do it. Play the Texans. Then you
have the Steelers and you got to travel to the Steelers.
Do you believe that Patrick Mahomes is healthy enough to
make the trick? Because flying is tough on joints like
that and the injuries like that. So do you do
(35:05):
you fly them in and do you believe that he
will be able to play the game at a high
enough level in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
If you believe he is, and.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Patrick Mahomes is willing to go, and everybody is in agreement,
then you take them. And I think that that is
the continued theme here is that that should be the
same thought process going into the Broncos game. It's going
to come down to making sure he doesn't injure himself
(35:38):
more injure something else because he's overcompensating for the high
ankle sprain that he has currently. You don't want them
to reinjure it. You don't want them to get hurt
any further. And can he tolerate the pain to do it.
We've seen him play with with you know, lower leg
injuries before he went through the playoffs. The one year
(36:00):
here with a with a bad ankle, I believe it was.
So we've seen them do it. And then you got
to keep in mind they also if they rehabbing well enough,
they got the nectars of the god as the gods
as well, that can play a part. And you you
catch you catch one of those, You catch those darts
and you're gonna be able to get through the game.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You give those go, well, that's a that's a good
for the palette for the high ankle sprain. A little
little dose of the nectar, you'll.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Be able to get through.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Man. I'll tell you that if if it's doable, if
if it were doable, like I'm right there at it
where it could be doable, and you get the nectars
of the gods, you could do it. Would you rather
have a shot of tequila? Or a shot of torent
oh tortoll. Oh man, I would look at bro, I
(36:48):
look at like I mean, and it's only like a shot.
There's no calories, like I don't have to worry about
a beer gut or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
You just bet.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
But the only thing about it is is that it's
not like it's a feeling. Though it's not a feeling,
you know, like you drink the tequila. The tequila gives
you like a feeling. Imagine tourt all just takes all
the pain away and you don't feel any pain.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
You imagine that you can go to a bar.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
You're bellied up to the bar and you look up
and you're like, all right, what are we drinking to
and you other bartender gives you the what are we drinking?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Boss?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And then you just look up there and you see
it's a bottle of tourt all with a javelin in
the top that they.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Pull out and get literally feel that's kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Damn. How much would you charge for a shot of
tourtollf you run of the bar?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
If I was running a bar, yeah, oh man, that'd
be like one hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Lee, what's the most expensive shot you can get at
a bar right.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Now, Like what you could get Louis Louie is like
two hundred some digs. When I owned the restaurant, I
sold Louis for like two twenty five a shot.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I grabbed a shot of Louis when I got the
call that we had the show.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Is that Louis the fourteenth?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Something like that? Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I was at a bar, of course, when I got
the call, I was like, all right, let me get
a shot of Louis.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
My brother was bartending, and I had a buddy of
mine who was sitting at the bar, and some guy
walked up and he was trying to be a big shot,
and he was looking up at like the top shelf
bottles and he's like, hey man, how much for that? Uh,
Henry the fourteenth up there? He's like, my brothers, I'm sorry.
He was, yeah, Henry the fourteenth, the Henry up there.
(38:28):
I was like, I'm not familiar with Henry the fourteenth.
Oh you mean Louis the fourteenth. Oh you mean that
one right up there the top shelf. And he said, yeah, yeah,
that one, And he knew exactly what he was referring to.
He could have easily just played along with the guy
instead just made it a point to clown the guy
who was trying to order a top shelf shot, which
is what fifty bucks, one hundred bucks to do a
shot of that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I told you I was charging two hundred, bro and
they was doing it so toward all would be in
the two hundred range. Oh, easily two three hundred dollars.
What a great idea, A great idea if you're going
do it. Though I can't do that. I mean, I
don't see why you couldn't do it, but that would
be interesting. So Patrick Mahomes, just sit this week out,
(39:12):
you know, get ready for Pittsman. That might make the
most sense. Yeah, just get ready. Plus, it's Christmas.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
The NFL needs a ratings you know, they've got to
be able to, uh to make some money out of this,
So you know, just play play that Christmas game against Pittsburgh,
you know, sit this one out. Plus that'll make the
college games that much more watchable.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
It'd be interesting to see if he does play, though,
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