December 19, 2024 • 39 mins
Doug Gottlieb explains the issues with reporting on NIL and what went down between him and Adam Schefter. Titans HC Brian Callahan is right to go off on reporters for calling his team soft. Plus, guest appearances on Aaron Rodgers Netflix doc.
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One of our teammates here at Fox Sports Radio, Doug Gottlieb,
has been in the news. He is the new head
coach at Green Bay in the news Wisconsin, green Bay,
the Phoenix and they, you know, had a little bit
of an issue. They lost to Division two Michigan Tech
at home on Wednesday. They're in the midst of in
(02:14):
eight game losing streak. They're two and eleven under Doug,
who's trying to take over the program and steer them
in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Don me trying to take over. He hasn't taking it over.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, no, he's taken over trying to steer them in
the right direction. And so the reason this popped up
in the news this week is because Doug had a
little bit of an issue with a report about Sacramento
State's NIL funding and how much they had as opposed
to what the reality is with Adam Schefter who reported
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it initially, and so Doug and Adam Schefter had a
back and forth. Adam Schefter took a shot at Doug
kind of made the rounds, and so the bigger topic
turned to the NIL world, which we've discussed on this
show several times before, and Doug took time to address
the situation with the media yesterday and it sounded like
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this part.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Of the energy towards Schefty was this, when people put
out that a program has fifty million dollars in NIL,
it makes programs at this level, which is the same
level basketball wise, look like like what are we doing
because we're nowhere near this?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Neither are they.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Like my brother coach at Sacramento State, so there is
no one who's more familiar with the cal State system
with Sacramento State than I am, outside of my brother
because he coached there. So again, part of my energy
towards it was like, there's just so much BS out
there about what's really happening in the NIL world, and
here we are, We're asking our donors to help us
in any way possible financially, and how does that make
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them feel like, Okay, we're nickel and diming, But like
the reality is, they're nowhere near that. I texted with Scheftee,
text me back, We're good. Obviously I end up looking
on social media. The worst point remains that there's nothing
about his tweet in terms of the facts which we're accurate.
And again I don't necessarily blame him. I blame the
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people that just tell blatant lies to reporters and they
go with the biggest number possible.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So that was Doug talking about the nil rumors and
stories that are out there that are spread by people
in the media.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You guys are way more knowledgeable about this. I would
say this.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I would agree with Doug in the sense of there
is so much you can call it propaganda, you could
call it just irresponsible reporting, and I understand, like you
have to see kind of the whole big picture and
all this for a lot of people in that schefter's position.
There's other people you could throw it to, Ian Rappaport,
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Tom Pelsero, etc. There many times are getting a copy
and paste type text that the agent wants to put
out there publicly, and they are the vessel that age
is using for that player, the client, what have you.
So oftentimes that's how it comes out. And when you
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see something like that, you go sex hit US fifty
million in IL and I think we all probably go, oh, okay, yeah, sure,
but well Adam Schefter said it, so it's got to
be true.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Now, how do we check if it's true or not.
We can't And that's the problem.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
And that's one of the things that it's certain athletic directors.
Maybe it's some big time blue blood schools who've done
that in the past. There's certain you know, maybe coaches
have said it because no one can fact check and
no one can actually go see if that's the case.
And what it does is it gives us perception like
they are one of the top. They're faking it until
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they make even if they don't have fifty million yet,
it's if it's out there, everyone thinks they do. And
so that becomes then a problem for a lot of
other coaches, institutions, athletic directors, you know, those those schools
and their fund and the ability to fundraise because to
his point, like people are looking at it going well,
they're raising fifty million. Is like the alumni are saying,
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are we not be able to do enough? Do we
need to do more? They're feeling strained. Like the whole
nil world right now is propped up by the generous
people at every institution that love and care about their
university that have been propping it up. It is not
dominated by the corporate world in marketing. It's just not
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It's such a small percentage as compared to what's actually
driving these players getting paid. And the hard thing is
is it's not sustainable. It was never built to be that.
Everyone thought it was gonna be those all this marketing
dollars that would be sent to these players, and unfortunately
it's never gotten there because it's really hard for there
to be I guess showcase, especially this early on with
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nil this ROI that they're getting in exchange, so it's
had to be basically on the backs of the a
lot of the alumni network. And so because of that,
you then have people who are strained where these same
people who have been asking for money from the university,
maybe some have moved to the collectives and now they're
asking for money every single year, and they're asking for
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the support every single year, and so the university is
still asking for money, the collectives are still asking for money.
They're both saying, hey, this is going to the facilities,
this is going to help out the student athletes. The
collectors are saying, well, this is going to our roster.
It's helping our coaches, helping out the player. It's going
right to them and they're filling the strain more than
anyone else. And so that's the hard part about the
whole conversation around NIL is it's the same people who
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have been supporting universities, putting their name on buildings and
doing things that are now being asked to do even more.
And it was never intended to be that. And there's
no way to fact check and see if any of
this is legitimate at all. And when you look at
how you pay any professional athlete, it's all built on
the TV industry. It's all building the revenue generated from
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the TV money.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
There you go, and we're.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Just not there yet, at least next year, where we've
got a better revenue share model that's getting us closer
to that. So I understand Doug's frustration and why he
pushed back to Schefter, and because I looked at that
and looked at it with side eye, like, come on, dude.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I'm dinning.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
I'm not saying that they don't have a donor who's
maybe said hey, I want to I want to support
you guys in a big way.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Hey, how much are you willing to do up to
fifty million?
Speaker 7 (08:26):
But do you know how hard it is to find
a dude to write a fifty million dollar check unless
they've got some sort of huge event where they've you know,
sold their company and they want to make a big contribution,
a one time contribution like that. Maybe sometimes that happens,
But the problem is with like a university, they're putting
your name on a building, Dude, they're going to name
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a business school after you. When this happens with a collective,
it's like, well, they know how much how much long
are these things are gonna last? So there's really no
return on that investment in of whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
And that's the difficulty of all of it.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
So I was with Doug on that, and again it's
a byproduct of just how news is fed to us
and oftentimes how the vessels whoever that may be.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
May be sharing that information.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
But it does become a slippery slope and dangerous and
there's no checks and balances.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
That's part of the issue with all that. When it's
all said and done.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I mean, I guess I'll just let I mean, I
feel like you covered it, like in terms of how
I interpret it. When I looked at it, I looked
at it from more of a Doug to you know,
rap report or not rap report, but uh, chefter type
of deal.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
How so explain when you meant you know, I don't know,
I you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I think that when when you're in a situation maybe
that you find yourself in you know, you're in media,
but you are a coach. That's a that's a slippery slope, right,
That's that's a balancing act that you have to figure
out how how you find that that sweet spot because
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in moments like these, your media but you're also a coach.
But you're a coach, but you're also media, So how
do you how do you navigate it?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
And that was you know, that was what I took
away from it, like getting into all of the details
of the nil aspect of it. That's that's I think
that your explanation is spot on. I mean, but once
you get when somebody takes a shot at you and
your media and you have a forum to be able
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to actually a platform to actually go on and it's
a major one, you know, in Fox Sports Radio, and
you're able to to talk about how you feel or
clear up how you feel. I think it's interesting, you
know because the way the exchange went, you know, they
were throwing shade like well, I think Doug was being Doug,
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you know, because Doug, Doug had opinions, and if you
know Doug Gottlieb, you know that that's Doug is going
to have an opinion about things. But it's like the
first thing I thought when I saw it, uh, and
then even when I heard like the response.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It's like.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You're you're talking about something that sure he's knowledgeable of
his family is is coaching. I believe his dad was
a coach as well, right, Like it's a family of coaches.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, so I know he has his brother coach in
sack stage. Yeah yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Did mention it, like I said, he you know, I
know he he comes from a.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Family of coaches and a family of people that played ball.
He played ball.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But it's like, in those moments, was it even you know,
because if it felt like he took offense to you know,
the I don't know, I just I don't know. I've
tried to like tread on it because he's my colleague,
you know what I mean, But it just I think
it's a difficult position to be when you're a coach
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and you're in media, right.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So but let me you this.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Most coaches, they will have a coaches show, they have
a film review session.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
I mean, they are obligated throughout the year.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
And maybe this is only my perspective from football because
that's what I know, but they're obligated at least one
to three times a week with some sort of media
obligation outside of just a press conference, like doing a
coaches show, doing appearance somewhere, or doing like a film thing.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You know, how does that differentiate?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Like I understand duds schedule and everything else he has.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Going on it you're limited to one topic. Well, and
that's fine, you know, but there's also wes. But it's
like one you know what I mean, Like you're talking
about your team. You know, you're talking about your team
and their opponent. Right, It's different when you have to
talk about everything.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Okay, you know it's based on so let me so
let me pivot to this.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Then let me pivot to this because I wasn't kind
of done asking the question, But how many CEOs have
a podcast?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I mean, hell schefter, the guy who's saying that to him,
he has a podcast, amongst being an insider, amongst doing NFL,
amongst doing everything else that he does, and whatever else
that comes along with that. Right, There's a lot of
people that I know that now have a podcast, but
that's not by any way, in any way, shape or
form their main form of business or function. Yet it's
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part of a marketing tool brand that they have that
accompanies that. But sometimes it spins off into a production company.
So like, how like why are we viewing it different
now for Doug? If there's so many other people out
there that have a podcast and producing or creating a
podcast is not their main form of business, but it
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gives them this opportunity to talk about so many other
things that are out there.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I mean, it's I think it's a valid way of
looking at it as a valid question. Let me ask
you this, do you think in terms of how Doug
does does media and the platform as he does it
on with Fox Sports Radio, does that have any impact
or any bearing on it, you know, in terms of
your opinions, in terms of your criticisms. You know, I
(14:09):
would say ultimately that's the differentiator is that you have
to you have to walk a fine line when you're
representing a university. You know, for what it's worth, you
got to walk a fine line.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Doing what we do, we have a little bit more
liberties and a little bit more freedoms because we're purely
just doing our takes and giving information and life experiences
on things that are connected to the stories that are
out there. But I think when you're as opinionated and
as strongly opinionated as Doug has been, that's your brand.
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You know, your brand is to be kind of that
guy that you know.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Doug mixes it up like and he admitted to that,
and he said, look, I have an ability to get
under people's skin. He knows that. I I always gotten
along with Doug. He's always We've always been super cool.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I have I have zero beef with Like I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
That's why I'm trying to like kind of talk about
it in a way because it's like, that's our teammates.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I think.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think that Doug has a reputation that precedes him.
And so there are people when he took the job,
and this is just the truth that want to see
it not work. They want to see it fail because
they have an issue with Doug, which is not fair
to the players, but it also doesn't make him wrong
when he addresses this stuff because he knows it, like
his brother was there, He's in the he's in the business,
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not like he's speaking from the outside like a schefter.
He's actually in it and dealing with it on a
day to day basis. So I actually think what he
says has a lot of validity because he actually is
experiencing it in real time.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, and so I don't think that's enough for debate though.
I don't think that that's the part of this part
of it. The only reason why this part of it
becomes the conversation point is because of what you say
it originally, right, it's the original part of the conversation
that makes the ladder of it relevant, you know what
I mean. If it comes from somebody else, I think
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it's received and it's perceived differently.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I think that reputation.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Let me ask you this, So you're saying it's reputation built,
it's not the current results of what's happening with the
team that is coupled into that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It is.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It is because again, it's because people want to see
Doug struggle like because because peoples.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, and here's the thing is.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
I'm not, by the way, I'm not trying to come
off critical in any way. In fact, like I said.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Earlier, I'm just giving perspective on it.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
So and I supported, I support Doug as far as
what he's said in regards NIL. I think he's dead
on in that regard, you know. And I'll even go a
step further because I've said this earlier and I think Doug, actually,
you know it took a different a coutrarian stance on this.
But you look at the agents too, that are involved
in n I L as compared to those that are
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involved in at the professional level.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
It's two different degrees.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
And I'm not saying they're people or anything else, but
it's oftentimes younger guys is oftentimes guys who are in
his experienced. It's not you know, your heavyweights that are
doing at the professional level of most sports that are
doing at the college level. And so I've said before,
you get you get some clowns who are involved in
it's one hundred percent, and you get some uncles and
you get some other family members that are involved in
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NIL with all of it, and that makes it a
more difficult process too, to see how much of what's
being offered is real, how much of what's out there's real?
And Doug can you know, he's been in it now
and maybe he disagrees with that still, but but I
would stand there and say had been my experience. So again,
I'm not trying to like, I'm not trying to come
off as critical in any way. I think I think
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the bigger picture thing that's interesting about that is, aside
from the nil conversation, is when you look at what
Doug is able to do while he's coaching slash, you know,
having you know, a radio show, having a podcast that
does touch on all these topics, is it's not really
that different from what we're seeing out there in the
business world in other places. We just don't view it
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the same because we don't see that CEO's business win
or lose week in.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And week out.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
We don't get to watch him and say, well, there's
a scoreboard we can keep we could keep track, like
we know how you're doing as a coach, like most
CEOs like yeah, after they file the reports and maybe
if they're a publicly traded company, you see their stock
price and you associate their performance to that, but that's
the difference. Like I would actually say he's kind of
a first mover in this space as far as what
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he's doing, And so I don't know if that comes
off as defending him or not. I'm just kind of
pointing out the perspectives of like schefter is taking a
shot at him because of their short term results.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
It's year one, Like what does he look like in
year three?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
If they win their league in year three and he's
still doing the podcast and everything else, It's like, are
you are you gonna be critical now? And the truth
is is like Doug was being critical about something that
to me, I think a lot of people talk about
behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
And when we've seen people.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Who have literally tweeted out stuff that came directly from
the agent, Like like we've seen those tweets, what they've looked.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Like every everywhere you'll see the same tweet set out
by every reporter. You're like, yeah, there's no way they're
just looking over each other's shoulder. It's a press release
from an agent or from somebody, and they just copy
and paste it and try to be the first one
to send it.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
It's brilliant. There you go.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
So again I'm not I'm not being critical of even
how that process works because I mean, i mean, what's
like an insider going to do if he wants the story,
if he wants to put it out there first and
be first, that's what he's He's got to take it
from the agent. He's gonna put out what the agent wants. Olthwise,
I'll never get that again. So like you can all
still all SI.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But that's still qualifies as being insider because sure, whether
it's copying and pasting, they're still getting the information.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, and again I could I could care less about that.
I think that's a that's a tough, tough job. I
think it is a tough job.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
That's a tough I think that's it more as it
more pertains to Doug and what he's doing and what
he's taking on. I just think it's more of a
unique approach to a coach now in college sports and
who's able to provide perspective that's unique. And I'll just
I'll go as far as saying this, you know, if
you do have a podcast, if you do, you know,
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if you are actively in a space you can talk
more accurately to the topics of what's happening right now
in sports than someone who's done coaching and is talking
about it like that's.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Just that's just the truth of it.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
I mean, that's one of the reasons why a lot
of people, when you listen to certain podcasts, you can say,
this guy runs a company, and these are the things
that he's talking about that are happening in that sector
or in that realm in real time.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
We tend to give them more credibility.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Is that CEO someone who owned like like you just
kind of say, do they own their business or do
they have someone to answer to? So if they own
their business, I don't think that the rules of engaging agement,
the rules all together are different because you're your your
own judge, jury, and executioner. If you have things that
you have to to.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Well, and we can break this down further, like it
doesn't to me. It doesn't matter if they own it
or not. If you're a ceover company, you're the CEO
of the company. The reason why I say that's for
this is you're really looking for the information that's coming
out of what they're doing in their operations and day
to day and correct and their perspective on what they're seeing.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
But because if Doug doesn't know, don't want that. Well,
but I'm saying Doug doesn't know as basketball team either, right,
it's a unif. But that's what I'm saying, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
But I think that that's that's where to me, that's
where it does matter. Is if you're not the one
that's hiring and firing yourself, then the things that you
have to say and the things how you have to
handle them have to be handled in a way where
you're you're making sure you stay out of the cross
ears of the people who who's signed.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
But but but athletic directors and and and presence of
universities aren't necessarily always control that either, like they can
get hired and fired too.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Sure there's boards that typically make that sense.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Look again, that doesn't matter to me because regardless of
that position, whether you're a head basketball coach and athletic
director president, you still have to represent the brand. You
still have to represent your university. So even if you're
a CEO of your company, and if you own your
company and you're the CEO, you're still representing that brand.
So it's all about what you're portraying out there and
what you want people to feel and hear. Again, that's
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cast to the side because that doesn't matter in regards
to the context of what we're talking about. Like, if
you're looking at what Doug is doing, it's unique in
the sense of, like, I don't know, maybe we'll see
other people who are able to do this in the
future where they're more involved in the media or more
involved in the marketing of those sports teams as part
of it. Like, that's part of one of the hats
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that you have to wear if you want to be
able to kind of control the narrative of that team
of your success or lack throw that's out there as
opposed to a once a week show.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
To your point, Dion launched a show. He does launched
the show with Roxy. Yes anyway, he just yeah, he
just he just launched a show.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
That Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
When somebody hit your throne, your toe.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
You gotta make sure you don't say last name like
too quickly and correctly.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
By the way, I think we're kind of bearing the
lead here as well too. Like Doug's issue should not
be with Adam Schefter, his issue should be with Lee.
Lee was in Green Bay not long ago, and didn't
even bother hitting up Doug to hang out. You got
to be ashamed of yourself. Okay, okay, I might have reached.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Out, Yeah, oh did you?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, Doug's a busy guy. What did he say, I
don't want to go get I don't want to get
ducks out of a claw machine with you.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I mean, and if he said that, then you know
I have no I have no problem.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
And by the way, you know Doug Doug mentioned he said, hey, look,
I would love for anyone to come to my shoes
and see my schedule what I do. Like, I think
that's even an opportunity to didn't put out content to
look at.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
All, right, like, what does this look like? What is
a Dan in life of Doug Shoes look like?
Speaker 7 (24:00):
And it speaks more to I mean, you look at
the Aaron Rodgers document that's come out, Enigma, and so
you're seeing what he's doing in the off season and.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Getting a better idea of maybe who he is.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
And maybe we can talk about that at some point,
but I look at it and just say, you know, look,
aside from the Twitter battle between him and shafter which
I guess they're fine whatever. I could care less about it.
It's more interesting to me that Doug is taking on
something that no one's done before. And I shouldn't say
no one because honestly, like you just brought Prime Prime
and the more I think about Prime, the more I'm like,
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he controls all the content they put out.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
He controls it all. So true, I guess you know.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
And look how that's worked out for Colorado. On the
perception of Colorado. I mean, they've just had a young
man win the Heisman. Do you think here's another question.
I know we're up against it, like if Travis Hunter
doesn't have the backing of everything they've done.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Nope, I know your boy Clatt touched on it too.
Like it's a one on one situation and it would
take someone like Deon Sanders to do it to help.
There's not another there's not another coach out there going
to do that. What they did with Travis Hunter the
one place where you'll be able to go and do that.
And I don't know for how long would be to
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go to Colorado because Dion Sanders like embraces that. Now
you're starting to see other guys go into the profession.
We just saw Mike vic Get named the head coach.
Maybe there's another wild card coach out there that that'll
pop up at a major school and do it. But
that's one hundred percent Prime Prime's vision of how he
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was going to take what he believed was the best
athlete coming out of high school and carry him like
people forget. He followed that man to Jackson State. The
eventual Heisman Trophy winner followed the guy to Jackson State.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Talk about trust, Talk about trust.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So, I mean, I think it one hundred percent has
to do with all of the brand building and all
of the content and all of the being in the
media that.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
We just discussed.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think it's a great example of what you're saying
is if it's a progressive approach to how you're going
about doing your business, it could, indeed, you know, be
a tide or rising tide for everybody that's involved with
what you're doing. You just gotta win. You just gotta win.
If you don't win, it doesn't work, You just gotta win.
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And how much pressure is that, I don't know, you know,
but it has worked to your point, it has worked.
But I don't know how many people could do that.
I don't know how many people can be that type
of content person. I know Doug creates, you know, he
creates content that people pay attention to.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I do know that, So he does have the ability
to do it.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I just don't know how many people would be able
to do it and do it at the level that
Prime is done in that it's one on one.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
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we mentioned, you know, coaching in the world of sports.
Brian Callahan, the Tennessee Titans head coach, decided to take
issue with the notion that maybe his team was soft
as he was asked the question by people in the
media there in Nashville, and he responded like.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
This, I mean, you really want to get me going today.
I think, to be honest with you, I think it's complete
and total if you want my honest opinion. These guys
are tough man. They go after it every day. They
play hard as hell, and there's at no point, at
no point have we ever put on tape at any
point this season that this is a soft football team.
Like I I can't even wrap my mind around how
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that would even be a conversation. I mean, just because
we don't win games doesn't mean we're soft. These guys
play there off, they play hard, they play physical. You
can ask any team that plays against us that when
when they come up the field they know they played us. Yeah,
that makes me relatively angry that would be some presumption.
That's that means you just don't watch you know you
don't do anything about it that you don't know what
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you're talking about. I don't know what you're looking at,
so uh, I don't. I won't stand for I'm not
gonna stand for anybody calling his football team soft. I
think that's if that there's opinions out there that feel
that way, then you know that's they don't know anything
about anything about NFL football. So I'd like you to
walk in there and call one of these guys soft
and see what happens. You know, this is not a
soft football team at all, mentally or physically, and I
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think you can kind of shove that one right up here.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
To be honest, is there any greater discs to a
head coach than calling his team soft? Like because I mean,
you're soft? Well, it's just it makes them bristle.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
You can say so many things to a coach and
they would probably should be offended by it, right Like,
let's say you insulted.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Their intelligence and you're like, you guys have a dumb
football team.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Like that doesn't bother coaches as much as saying soft.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
It's just it's probably the softest word to use that
would draw the biggest reaction from a head.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Coach, which are earlier. You know that that's what you
said earlier. Yeah, that will really get you. If they
used it in that particular word form, it would be
it would hit a certain type of way.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Listen, he's right.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I mean a team that first of all, I don't
think anybody soft and in the in the national football
you pause, all right, But the reality of it is
is that sometimes teams are going to be better. Sometimes
they're going to have better game plans, sometimes they're going
to have better, you know, situations that play out for them.
I mean, this is a three to win team, I think.
(30:16):
I think when you look at it, what is the
indictment becomes the question. And so when a reporter asked
the question or are you guys too saft again, Kyle
Han says, you don't know football or you don't know
what you're watching. Well, somebody who's onlooking maybe looking at
it like huh Like in certain instances you can see
(30:37):
where they were maybe out physical, you know, you know,
out athleticized, whatever it may be. And a reporter doesn't
have to know it the way that you know it
as as a coach. They're just going to ask you
what they feel it could what it could be as
the reason why you're struggling. And and I would be
(30:59):
to me, I feel like if somebody comes out and says,
are you guys losing because you're soft?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Answer answer why you're losing? To me? Like you like,
what are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You're not going to jump up from behind the podium
and whoop somebody's ass, Like that's not going to happen.
You're not, you said, go ask ask the guys in
the locker room if they're soft, if if if a player,
if a player puts his hands on one of those
media members, they're going to have consequences, very bad consequences
that they got to deal with. So it's not about
(31:31):
trying to prove to the media that they're not soft
in the way that you respond. Let let them know
why it is that you're losing because you gave every
explanation as to them not being soft. Give every explanation
as to why you're losing, because they're ultimately asking you
what is the reason why your team is? Is is
a three to win team? And and and to say, well,
(31:55):
a three win team can be you know, they can
be tough, but they're not winning games. Okay, well answer
why you're not winning games? That's what I would say.
I mean, I think it's cool that you know, he
stood up for his players, and oh he you know this,
that and the other they're not soft, this, that they're tough,
this whatever. That's fine, But y'all want three games and
we're here covering y'all, So tell us why I'm on
(32:18):
Brian Callahan side here.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You know you ask.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
By the way, nobody in the media should have any
right to ask any professional athlete if they're soft, or
any any team.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
They're the media hold on sight.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But where do you come off asking anybody through You
don't play even if you're not good, You don't get
through a game, and you don't play that game if
you're soft, like and I don't care if it's basketball,
I don't care if it's football, I don't care. What
you go to to try and get your body prepared
to play for games is more grueling than anything that
anybody asking a question sitting there holding up a recorder
(32:52):
could ever experience or ever relate to. So he's got
every right to bury them. That's a ridiculous question. They're
not soft, they're a terrible football You're an instigator, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I hope you're not trying to antagonize like a response like,
well what if a former player was holding?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
No, I just I think it's I think it's disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
About the situation there in Tennessee. What do you say,
they're solft problem?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
If they stink?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
He did say they stink.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
They stink. They're awful, LeVar.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah, Now which one is worse? Calling you? Are y'all soft?
Or are you stink and you're awful?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
They'rerible? Well, they're terrible. I mean you can't dispute that.
I mean, which one's worse?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Soft is worse? I mean, what would you say? What
would you say that I'm terrible? And what was the
other words?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
No, no, what was the other one that was connected
to terrible? Anyways, he said terrible and something else. Listen,
I think they're both horrible. I would never want to
be called terrible at anything that I do. That would
not resonate well with me. I could listen. I can
actually stomach somebody calling me soft as long as I
(34:04):
know I'm not terrible, Damn, as long as I know
I'm not terrible.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
At what I got going on. The truth is in
there of me not being terrible.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
You call me terrible, then everything else is on the
table is on the table, Like I think.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
I think this is you getting soft. I think back
in the day when you were playing, you would have
looked to kill someone. And then now you're like, well, yeah,
I'm just old, so you can call me soft, don't
you know?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Jay Leno called our team soft, and I told jay
Leno to come to uh then formerly known as Redskins Park.
I told jay Leno to come to Redskins Park and
I will gladly whoop your ass.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Oh you threw him down the hill. That's how he
got that mark up on his face.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
That wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
All these years later.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
That was not me.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I have I have an ILIBI that was not me.
That was that not me?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
What the hell sound drop was that?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Is that you like you and Todd wrestling?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And that's.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
It's a throat punch?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Tang dahn okay? Was Todd or Lee throwing the throat punch?
Who got hitting the throat by the other person?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
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You'll see today's show posted right after we get off
the air. So Aaron Rodgers said he's open to mentoring
the hell out of a young quarterback should the Jets
draft him. He comes back next year and uh and
try and be that uh, you know, that that influence
on a young guy. And Aaron Rodgers has been in
the news obviously with his documentary on Netflix, Enigma, which
(36:33):
we were featured in that.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Yeah, I mean did you know that?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
C Why wouldn't which point we were featured? He was
featured in the show. Do y'all still have the sound?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Our show was featured.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Was it really going to here?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Aaron Rodgers is back. He was spotted, so at least
we know he's in the country, you know. Now the
question is where the hell was he? And when it
finally does come out, is he going to get buried
by bitter people in the media that are going to
be upset?
Speaker 9 (37:08):
Well, I mean there's certain people who have some sort
of an issue with Rogers. But a little bit of
minute genda, if you will.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That was he over there to see the pyramids? Like?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
He wanted to go inside there and see you see
what all the uh.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
All the.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I mean, you know, some would argue.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
That was Is that actually part of it? Or was
I just edited and put together? It sounds like I
was just edited.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
That was actually part out. It was a spoof. I
thought they were spoofing me. Q that that actually, well,
what's only Jonas sentence?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
So my bet is he used it for his show
on Saturday, and that's trying to recycle now because he
recycles a lot of his material from Saturday onto our show.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
That is that. That is not true.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
You can actually hear you start to laugh and then
LeVar make comments afterwards.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
So it was from this show.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Listen to it from halfway through episode three of Enigma
and the Actually they have a bunch of you. They
have the odd couple on there as well. Nobody cares
about them.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
No, that's true. Yeah we did.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
You did kick off the segment.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah, so one more time for me, one more time.
We have time for it. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Aaron Rodgers is back if he was spotted, so at
least we know he's in the country, you know. Now
the big question is where the hell was he And
when it finally does come out, is he going to
get buried by bitter people.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
In the media that are going to be upset?
Speaker 9 (38:31):
Well, I mean there's certain people who have some sort
of an issue with Rogers, but a little bit of
an agenda, if you will.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
That was he over there to see the pyramids? Like?
Is that what it was he wanted to go inside
there and see you see would all the.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Uh, there's the laugh, there's the bar.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Look you sound good too, Jonas? I mean, does it
sounded good?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You go?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
We go?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Baby? You dog? What do you mean? This is us?
It's our show.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Oh no, we're featured.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
That is a Jonas Knox problem. I don't want to
say what you did.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
With that sound.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Swear to God, that's really from the document.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
I'm just saying, I bet you got so much pleasure
from hearing that, so much pleasure, that's all say.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I didn't even thought that was being tricked.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
I didn't even think your poor laundry, don't they laundry?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Thin got a bunch of socks in there?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
You probably God?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Kitty beat? Who need to My first reaction to who
need to boomerang for Christmas?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
How about it? How about it anyway for you Jonas
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One of our teammates here at Fox Sports Radio, Doug Gottlieb,
has been in the news. He is the new head
coach at Green Bay in the news Wisconsin, green Bay,
the Phoenix and they, you know, had a little bit
of an issue. They lost to Division two Michigan Tech
at home on Wednesday. They're in the midst of in
(02:14):
eight game losing streak. They're two and eleven under Doug,
who's trying to take over the program and steer them
in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Don me trying to take over. He hasn't taking it over.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, no, he's taken over trying to steer them in
the right direction. And so the reason this popped up
in the news this week is because Doug had a
little bit of an issue with a report about Sacramento
State's NIL funding and how much they had as opposed
to what the reality is with Adam Schefter who reported
(02:46):
it initially, and so Doug and Adam Schefter had a
back and forth. Adam Schefter took a shot at Doug
kind of made the rounds, and so the bigger topic
turned to the NIL world, which we've discussed on this
show several times before, and Doug took time to address
the situation with the media yesterday and it sounded like
(03:08):
this part.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Of the energy towards Schefty was this, when people put
out that a program has fifty million dollars in NIL,
it makes programs at this level, which is the same
level basketball wise, look like like what are we doing
because we're nowhere near this?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Neither are they.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Like my brother coach at Sacramento State, so there is
no one who's more familiar with the cal State system
with Sacramento State than I am, outside of my brother
because he coached there. So again, part of my energy
towards it was like, there's just so much BS out
there about what's really happening in the NIL world, and
here we are, We're asking our donors to help us
in any way possible financially, and how does that make
(03:47):
them feel like, Okay, we're nickel and diming, But like
the reality is, they're nowhere near that. I texted with Scheftee,
text me back, We're good. Obviously I end up looking
on social media. The worst point remains that there's nothing
about his tweet in terms of the facts which we're accurate.
And again I don't necessarily blame him. I blame the
(04:09):
people that just tell blatant lies to reporters and they
go with the biggest number possible.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So that was Doug talking about the nil rumors and
stories that are out there that are spread by people
in the media.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You guys are way more knowledgeable about this. I would
say this.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I would agree with Doug in the sense of there
is so much you can call it propaganda, you could
call it just irresponsible reporting, and I understand, like you
have to see kind of the whole big picture and
all this for a lot of people in that schefter's position.
There's other people you could throw it to, Ian Rappaport,
(04:47):
Tom Pelsero, etc. There many times are getting a copy
and paste type text that the agent wants to put
out there publicly, and they are the vessel that age
is using for that player, the client, what have you.
So oftentimes that's how it comes out. And when you
(05:07):
see something like that, you go sex hit US fifty
million in IL and I think we all probably go, oh, okay, yeah, sure,
but well Adam Schefter said it, so it's got to
be true.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Now, how do we check if it's true or not.
We can't And that's the problem.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
And that's one of the things that it's certain athletic directors.
Maybe it's some big time blue blood schools who've done
that in the past. There's certain you know, maybe coaches
have said it because no one can fact check and
no one can actually go see if that's the case.
And what it does is it gives us perception like
they are one of the top. They're faking it until
(05:46):
they make even if they don't have fifty million yet,
it's if it's out there, everyone thinks they do. And
so that becomes then a problem for a lot of
other coaches, institutions, athletic directors, you know, those those schools
and their fund and the ability to fundraise because to
his point, like people are looking at it going well,
they're raising fifty million. Is like the alumni are saying,
(06:08):
are we not be able to do enough? Do we
need to do more? They're feeling strained. Like the whole
nil world right now is propped up by the generous
people at every institution that love and care about their
university that have been propping it up. It is not
dominated by the corporate world in marketing. It's just not
(06:30):
It's such a small percentage as compared to what's actually
driving these players getting paid. And the hard thing is
is it's not sustainable. It was never built to be that.
Everyone thought it was gonna be those all this marketing
dollars that would be sent to these players, and unfortunately
it's never gotten there because it's really hard for there
to be I guess showcase, especially this early on with
(06:52):
nil this ROI that they're getting in exchange, so it's
had to be basically on the backs of the a
lot of the alumni network. And so because of that,
you then have people who are strained where these same
people who have been asking for money from the university,
maybe some have moved to the collectives and now they're
asking for money every single year, and they're asking for
(07:13):
the support every single year, and so the university is
still asking for money, the collectives are still asking for money.
They're both saying, hey, this is going to the facilities,
this is going to help out the student athletes. The
collectors are saying, well, this is going to our roster.
It's helping our coaches, helping out the player. It's going
right to them and they're filling the strain more than
anyone else. And so that's the hard part about the
whole conversation around NIL is it's the same people who
(07:36):
have been supporting universities, putting their name on buildings and
doing things that are now being asked to do even more.
And it was never intended to be that. And there's
no way to fact check and see if any of
this is legitimate at all. And when you look at
how you pay any professional athlete, it's all built on
the TV industry. It's all building the revenue generated from
(07:56):
the TV money.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
There you go, and we're.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Just not there yet, at least next year, where we've
got a better revenue share model that's getting us closer
to that. So I understand Doug's frustration and why he
pushed back to Schefter, and because I looked at that
and looked at it with side eye, like, come on, dude.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I'm dinning.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
I'm not saying that they don't have a donor who's
maybe said hey, I want to I want to support
you guys in a big way.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Hey, how much are you willing to do up to
fifty million?
Speaker 7 (08:26):
But do you know how hard it is to find
a dude to write a fifty million dollar check unless
they've got some sort of huge event where they've you know,
sold their company and they want to make a big contribution,
a one time contribution like that. Maybe sometimes that happens,
But the problem is with like a university, they're putting
your name on a building, Dude, they're going to name
(08:48):
a business school after you. When this happens with a collective,
it's like, well, they know how much how much long
are these things are gonna last? So there's really no
return on that investment in of whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
And that's the difficulty of all of it.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
So I was with Doug on that, and again it's
a byproduct of just how news is fed to us
and oftentimes how the vessels whoever that may be.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
May be sharing that information.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
But it does become a slippery slope and dangerous and
there's no checks and balances.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
That's part of the issue with all that. When it's
all said and done.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I mean, I guess I'll just let I mean, I
feel like you covered it, like in terms of how
I interpret it. When I looked at it, I looked
at it from more of a Doug to you know,
rap report or not rap report, but uh, chefter type
of deal.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
How so explain when you meant you know, I don't know,
I you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I think that when when you're in a situation maybe
that you find yourself in you know, you're in media,
but you are a coach. That's a that's a slippery slope, right,
That's that's a balancing act that you have to figure
out how how you find that that sweet spot because
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in moments like these, your media but you're also a coach.
But you're a coach, but you're also media, So how
do you how do you navigate it?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
And that was you know, that was what I took
away from it, like getting into all of the details
of the nil aspect of it. That's that's I think
that your explanation is spot on. I mean, but once
you get when somebody takes a shot at you and
your media and you have a forum to be able
(10:37):
to actually a platform to actually go on and it's
a major one, you know, in Fox Sports Radio, and
you're able to to talk about how you feel or
clear up how you feel. I think it's interesting, you
know because the way the exchange went, you know, they
were throwing shade like well, I think Doug was being Doug,
(10:58):
you know, because Doug, Doug had opinions, and if you
know Doug Gottlieb, you know that that's Doug is going
to have an opinion about things. But it's like the
first thing I thought when I saw it, uh, and
then even when I heard like the response.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It's like.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You're you're talking about something that sure he's knowledgeable of
his family is is coaching. I believe his dad was
a coach as well, right, Like it's a family of coaches.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, so I know he has his brother coach in
sack stage. Yeah yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Did mention it, like I said, he you know, I
know he he comes from a.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Family of coaches and a family of people that played ball.
He played ball.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But it's like, in those moments, was it even you know,
because if it felt like he took offense to you know,
the I don't know, I just I don't know. I've
tried to like tread on it because he's my colleague,
you know what I mean, But it just I think
it's a difficult position to be when you're a coach
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and you're in media, right.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So but let me you this.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Most coaches, they will have a coaches show, they have
a film review session.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
I mean, they are obligated throughout the year.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
And maybe this is only my perspective from football because
that's what I know, but they're obligated at least one
to three times a week with some sort of media
obligation outside of just a press conference, like doing a
coaches show, doing appearance somewhere, or doing like a film thing.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You know, how does that differentiate?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Like I understand duds schedule and everything else he has.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Going on it you're limited to one topic. Well, and
that's fine, you know, but there's also wes. But it's
like one you know what I mean, Like you're talking
about your team. You know, you're talking about your team
and their opponent. Right, It's different when you have to
talk about everything.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Okay, you know it's based on so let me so
let me pivot to this.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Then let me pivot to this because I wasn't kind
of done asking the question, But how many CEOs have
a podcast?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I mean, hell schefter, the guy who's saying that to him,
he has a podcast, amongst being an insider, amongst doing NFL,
amongst doing everything else that he does, and whatever else
that comes along with that. Right, There's a lot of
people that I know that now have a podcast, but
that's not by any way, in any way, shape or
form their main form of business or function. Yet it's
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part of a marketing tool brand that they have that
accompanies that. But sometimes it spins off into a production company.
So like, how like why are we viewing it different
now for Doug? If there's so many other people out
there that have a podcast and producing or creating a
podcast is not their main form of business, but it
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gives them this opportunity to talk about so many other
things that are out there.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I mean, it's I think it's a valid way of
looking at it as a valid question. Let me ask
you this, do you think in terms of how Doug
does does media and the platform as he does it
on with Fox Sports Radio, does that have any impact
or any bearing on it, you know, in terms of
your opinions, in terms of your criticisms. You know, I
(14:09):
would say ultimately that's the differentiator is that you have
to you have to walk a fine line when you're
representing a university. You know, for what it's worth, you
got to walk a fine line.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Doing what we do, we have a little bit more
liberties and a little bit more freedoms because we're purely
just doing our takes and giving information and life experiences
on things that are connected to the stories that are
out there. But I think when you're as opinionated and
as strongly opinionated as Doug has been, that's your brand.
(14:46):
You know, your brand is to be kind of that
guy that you know.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Doug mixes it up like and he admitted to that,
and he said, look, I have an ability to get
under people's skin. He knows that. I I always gotten
along with Doug. He's always We've always been super cool.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I have I have zero beef with Like I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
That's why I'm trying to like kind of talk about
it in a way because it's like, that's our teammates.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I think.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think that Doug has a reputation that precedes him.
And so there are people when he took the job,
and this is just the truth that want to see
it not work. They want to see it fail because
they have an issue with Doug, which is not fair
to the players, but it also doesn't make him wrong
when he addresses this stuff because he knows it, like
his brother was there, He's in the he's in the business,
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not like he's speaking from the outside like a schefter.
He's actually in it and dealing with it on a
day to day basis. So I actually think what he
says has a lot of validity because he actually is
experiencing it in real time.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, and so I don't think that's enough for debate though.
I don't think that that's the part of this part
of it. The only reason why this part of it
becomes the conversation point is because of what you say
it originally, right, it's the original part of the conversation
that makes the ladder of it relevant, you know what
I mean. If it comes from somebody else, I think
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it's received and it's perceived differently.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I think that reputation.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Let me ask you this, So you're saying it's reputation built,
it's not the current results of what's happening with the
team that is coupled into that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It is.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It is because again, it's because people want to see
Doug struggle like because because peoples.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, and here's the thing is.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
I'm not, by the way, I'm not trying to come
off critical in any way. In fact, like I said.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Earlier, I'm just giving perspective on it.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
So and I supported, I support Doug as far as
what he's said in regards NIL. I think he's dead
on in that regard, you know. And I'll even go a
step further because I've said this earlier and I think Doug, actually,
you know it took a different a coutrarian stance on this.
But you look at the agents too, that are involved
in n I L as compared to those that are
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involved in at the professional level.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
It's two different degrees.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
And I'm not saying they're people or anything else, but
it's oftentimes younger guys is oftentimes guys who are in
his experienced. It's not you know, your heavyweights that are
doing at the professional level of most sports that are
doing at the college level. And so I've said before,
you get you get some clowns who are involved in
it's one hundred percent, and you get some uncles and
you get some other family members that are involved in
(17:20):
NIL with all of it, and that makes it a
more difficult process too, to see how much of what's
being offered is real, how much of what's out there's real?
And Doug can you know, he's been in it now
and maybe he disagrees with that still, but but I
would stand there and say had been my experience. So again,
I'm not trying to like, I'm not trying to come
off as critical in any way. I think I think
(17:41):
the bigger picture thing that's interesting about that is, aside
from the nil conversation, is when you look at what
Doug is able to do while he's coaching slash, you know,
having you know, a radio show, having a podcast that
does touch on all these topics, is it's not really
that different from what we're seeing out there in the
business world in other places. We just don't view it
(18:03):
the same because we don't see that CEO's business win
or lose week in.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And week out.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
We don't get to watch him and say, well, there's
a scoreboard we can keep we could keep track, like
we know how you're doing as a coach, like most
CEOs like yeah, after they file the reports and maybe
if they're a publicly traded company, you see their stock
price and you associate their performance to that, but that's
the difference. Like I would actually say he's kind of
a first mover in this space as far as what
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he's doing, And so I don't know if that comes
off as defending him or not. I'm just kind of
pointing out the perspectives of like schefter is taking a
shot at him because of their short term results.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
It's year one, Like what does he look like in
year three?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
If they win their league in year three and he's
still doing the podcast and everything else, It's like, are
you are you gonna be critical now? And the truth
is is like Doug was being critical about something that
to me, I think a lot of people talk about
behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
And when we've seen people.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Who have literally tweeted out stuff that came directly from
the agent, Like like we've seen those tweets, what they've looked.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Like every everywhere you'll see the same tweet set out
by every reporter. You're like, yeah, there's no way they're
just looking over each other's shoulder. It's a press release
from an agent or from somebody, and they just copy
and paste it and try to be the first one
to send it.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
It's brilliant. There you go.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
So again I'm not I'm not being critical of even
how that process works because I mean, i mean, what's
like an insider going to do if he wants the story,
if he wants to put it out there first and
be first, that's what he's He's got to take it
from the agent. He's gonna put out what the agent wants. Olthwise,
I'll never get that again. So like you can all
still all SI.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But that's still qualifies as being insider because sure, whether
it's copying and pasting, they're still getting the information.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, and again I could I could care less about that.
I think that's a that's a tough, tough job. I
think it is a tough job.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
That's a tough I think that's it more as it
more pertains to Doug and what he's doing and what
he's taking on. I just think it's more of a
unique approach to a coach now in college sports and
who's able to provide perspective that's unique. And I'll just
I'll go as far as saying this, you know, if
you do have a podcast, if you do, you know,
(20:17):
if you are actively in a space you can talk
more accurately to the topics of what's happening right now
in sports than someone who's done coaching and is talking
about it like that's.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Just that's just the truth of it.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
I mean, that's one of the reasons why a lot
of people, when you listen to certain podcasts, you can say,
this guy runs a company, and these are the things
that he's talking about that are happening in that sector
or in that realm in real time.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
We tend to give them more credibility.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Is that CEO someone who owned like like you just
kind of say, do they own their business or do
they have someone to answer to? So if they own
their business, I don't think that the rules of engaging agement,
the rules all together are different because you're your your
own judge, jury, and executioner. If you have things that
you have to to.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Well, and we can break this down further, like it
doesn't to me. It doesn't matter if they own it
or not. If you're a ceover company, you're the CEO
of the company. The reason why I say that's for
this is you're really looking for the information that's coming
out of what they're doing in their operations and day
to day and correct and their perspective on what they're seeing.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
But because if Doug doesn't know, don't want that. Well,
but I'm saying Doug doesn't know as basketball team either, right,
it's a unif. But that's what I'm saying, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
But I think that that's that's where to me, that's
where it does matter. Is if you're not the one
that's hiring and firing yourself, then the things that you
have to say and the things how you have to
handle them have to be handled in a way where
you're you're making sure you stay out of the cross
ears of the people who who's signed.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
But but but athletic directors and and and presence of
universities aren't necessarily always control that either, like they can
get hired and fired too.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Sure there's boards that typically make that sense.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Look again, that doesn't matter to me because regardless of
that position, whether you're a head basketball coach and athletic
director president, you still have to represent the brand. You
still have to represent your university. So even if you're
a CEO of your company, and if you own your
company and you're the CEO, you're still representing that brand.
So it's all about what you're portraying out there and
what you want people to feel and hear. Again, that's
(22:21):
cast to the side because that doesn't matter in regards
to the context of what we're talking about. Like, if
you're looking at what Doug is doing, it's unique in
the sense of, like, I don't know, maybe we'll see
other people who are able to do this in the
future where they're more involved in the media or more
involved in the marketing of those sports teams as part
of it. Like, that's part of one of the hats
(22:43):
that you have to wear if you want to be
able to kind of control the narrative of that team
of your success or lack throw that's out there as
opposed to a once a week show.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
To your point, Dion launched a show. He does launched
the show with Roxy. Yes anyway, he just yeah, he
just he just launched a show.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
That Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
When somebody hit your throne, your toe.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
You gotta make sure you don't say last name like
too quickly and correctly.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
By the way, I think we're kind of bearing the
lead here as well too. Like Doug's issue should not
be with Adam Schefter, his issue should be with Lee.
Lee was in Green Bay not long ago, and didn't
even bother hitting up Doug to hang out. You got
to be ashamed of yourself. Okay, okay, I might have reached.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Out, Yeah, oh did you?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, Doug's a busy guy. What did he say, I
don't want to go get I don't want to get
ducks out of a claw machine with you.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I mean, and if he said that, then you know
I have no I have no problem.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
And by the way, you know Doug Doug mentioned he said, hey, look,
I would love for anyone to come to my shoes
and see my schedule what I do. Like, I think
that's even an opportunity to didn't put out content to
look at.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
All, right, like, what does this look like? What is
a Dan in life of Doug Shoes look like?
Speaker 7 (24:00):
And it speaks more to I mean, you look at
the Aaron Rodgers document that's come out, Enigma, and so
you're seeing what he's doing in the off season and.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Getting a better idea of maybe who he is.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
And maybe we can talk about that at some point,
but I look at it and just say, you know, look,
aside from the Twitter battle between him and shafter which
I guess they're fine whatever. I could care less about it.
It's more interesting to me that Doug is taking on
something that no one's done before. And I shouldn't say
no one because honestly, like you just brought Prime Prime
and the more I think about Prime, the more I'm like,
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he controls all the content they put out.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
He controls it all. So true, I guess you know.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
And look how that's worked out for Colorado. On the
perception of Colorado. I mean, they've just had a young
man win the Heisman. Do you think here's another question.
I know we're up against it, like if Travis Hunter
doesn't have the backing of everything they've done.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Nope, I know your boy Clatt touched on it too.
Like it's a one on one situation and it would
take someone like Deon Sanders to do it to help.
There's not another there's not another coach out there going
to do that. What they did with Travis Hunter the
one place where you'll be able to go and do that.
And I don't know for how long would be to
(25:10):
go to Colorado because Dion Sanders like embraces that. Now
you're starting to see other guys go into the profession.
We just saw Mike vic Get named the head coach.
Maybe there's another wild card coach out there that that'll
pop up at a major school and do it. But
that's one hundred percent Prime Prime's vision of how he
(25:33):
was going to take what he believed was the best
athlete coming out of high school and carry him like
people forget. He followed that man to Jackson State. The
eventual Heisman Trophy winner followed the guy to Jackson State.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Talk about trust, Talk about trust.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So, I mean, I think it one hundred percent has
to do with all of the brand building and all
of the content and all of the being in the
media that.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
We just discussed.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think it's a great example of what you're saying
is if it's a progressive approach to how you're going
about doing your business, it could, indeed, you know, be
a tide or rising tide for everybody that's involved with
what you're doing. You just gotta win. You just gotta win.
If you don't win, it doesn't work, You just gotta win.
(26:23):
And how much pressure is that, I don't know, you know,
but it has worked to your point, it has worked.
But I don't know how many people could do that.
I don't know how many people can be that type
of content person. I know Doug creates, you know, he
creates content that people pay attention to.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I do know that, So he does have the ability
to do it.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I just don't know how many people would be able
to do it and do it at the level that
Prime is done in that it's one on one.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
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we mentioned, you know, coaching in the world of sports.
Brian Callahan, the Tennessee Titans head coach, decided to take
issue with the notion that maybe his team was soft
as he was asked the question by people in the
media there in Nashville, and he responded like.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
This, I mean, you really want to get me going today.
I think, to be honest with you, I think it's complete
and total if you want my honest opinion. These guys
are tough man. They go after it every day. They
play hard as hell, and there's at no point, at
no point have we ever put on tape at any
point this season that this is a soft football team.
Like I I can't even wrap my mind around how
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that would even be a conversation. I mean, just because
we don't win games doesn't mean we're soft. These guys
play there off, they play hard, they play physical. You
can ask any team that plays against us that when
when they come up the field they know they played us. Yeah,
that makes me relatively angry that would be some presumption.
That's that means you just don't watch you know you
don't do anything about it that you don't know what
(28:39):
you're talking about. I don't know what you're looking at,
so uh, I don't. I won't stand for I'm not
gonna stand for anybody calling his football team soft. I
think that's if that there's opinions out there that feel
that way, then you know that's they don't know anything
about anything about NFL football. So I'd like you to
walk in there and call one of these guys soft
and see what happens. You know, this is not a
soft football team at all, mentally or physically, and I
(29:00):
think you can kind of shove that one right up here.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
To be honest, is there any greater discs to a
head coach than calling his team soft? Like because I mean,
you're soft? Well, it's just it makes them bristle.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
You can say so many things to a coach and
they would probably should be offended by it, right Like,
let's say you insulted.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Their intelligence and you're like, you guys have a dumb
football team.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Like that doesn't bother coaches as much as saying soft.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
It's just it's probably the softest word to use that
would draw the biggest reaction from a head.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Coach, which are earlier. You know that that's what you
said earlier. Yeah, that will really get you. If they
used it in that particular word form, it would be
it would hit a certain type of way.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Listen, he's right.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I mean a team that first of all, I don't
think anybody soft and in the in the national football
you pause, all right, But the reality of it is
is that sometimes teams are going to be better. Sometimes
they're going to have better game plans, sometimes they're going
to have better, you know, situations that play out for them.
I mean, this is a three to win team, I think.
(30:16):
I think when you look at it, what is the
indictment becomes the question. And so when a reporter asked
the question or are you guys too saft again, Kyle
Han says, you don't know football or you don't know
what you're watching. Well, somebody who's onlooking maybe looking at
it like huh Like in certain instances you can see
(30:37):
where they were maybe out physical, you know, you know,
out athleticized, whatever it may be. And a reporter doesn't
have to know it the way that you know it
as as a coach. They're just going to ask you
what they feel it could what it could be as
the reason why you're struggling. And and I would be
(30:59):
to me, I feel like if somebody comes out and says,
are you guys losing because you're soft?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Answer answer why you're losing? To me? Like you like,
what are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You're not going to jump up from behind the podium
and whoop somebody's ass, Like that's not going to happen.
You're not, you said, go ask ask the guys in
the locker room if they're soft, if if if a player,
if a player puts his hands on one of those
media members, they're going to have consequences, very bad consequences
that they got to deal with. So it's not about
(31:31):
trying to prove to the media that they're not soft
in the way that you respond. Let let them know
why it is that you're losing because you gave every
explanation as to them not being soft. Give every explanation
as to why you're losing, because they're ultimately asking you
what is the reason why your team is? Is is
a three to win team? And and and to say, well,
(31:55):
a three win team can be you know, they can
be tough, but they're not winning games. Okay, well answer
why you're not winning games? That's what I would say.
I mean, I think it's cool that you know, he
stood up for his players, and oh he you know this,
that and the other they're not soft, this, that they're tough,
this whatever. That's fine, But y'all want three games and
we're here covering y'all, So tell us why I'm on
(32:18):
Brian Callahan side here.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You know you ask.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
By the way, nobody in the media should have any
right to ask any professional athlete if they're soft, or
any any team.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
They're the media hold on sight.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But where do you come off asking anybody through You
don't play even if you're not good, You don't get
through a game, and you don't play that game if
you're soft, like and I don't care if it's basketball,
I don't care if it's football, I don't care. What
you go to to try and get your body prepared
to play for games is more grueling than anything that
anybody asking a question sitting there holding up a recorder
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could ever experience or ever relate to. So he's got
every right to bury them. That's a ridiculous question. They're
not soft, they're a terrible football You're an instigator, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I hope you're not trying to antagonize like a response like,
well what if a former player was holding?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
No, I just I think it's I think it's disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
About the situation there in Tennessee. What do you say,
they're solft problem?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
If they stink?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
He did say they stink.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
They stink. They're awful, LeVar.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah, Now which one is worse? Calling you? Are y'all soft?
Or are you stink and you're awful?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
They'rerible? Well, they're terrible. I mean you can't dispute that.
I mean, which one's worse?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Soft is worse? I mean, what would you say? What
would you say that I'm terrible? And what was the
other words?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
No, no, what was the other one that was connected
to terrible? Anyways, he said terrible and something else. Listen,
I think they're both horrible. I would never want to
be called terrible at anything that I do. That would
not resonate well with me. I could listen. I can
actually stomach somebody calling me soft as long as I
(34:04):
know I'm not terrible, Damn, as long as I know
I'm not terrible.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
At what I got going on. The truth is in
there of me not being terrible.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
You call me terrible, then everything else is on the
table is on the table, Like I think.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
I think this is you getting soft. I think back
in the day when you were playing, you would have
looked to kill someone. And then now you're like, well, yeah,
I'm just old, so you can call me soft, don't
you know?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Jay Leno called our team soft, and I told jay
Leno to come to uh then formerly known as Redskins Park.
I told jay Leno to come to Redskins Park and
I will gladly whoop your ass.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Oh you threw him down the hill. That's how he
got that mark up on his face.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
That wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
All these years later.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
That was not me.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I have I have an ILIBI that was not me.
That was that not me?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
What the hell sound drop was that?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Is that you like you and Todd wrestling?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And that's.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
It's a throat punch?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Tang dahn okay? Was Todd or Lee throwing the throat punch?
Who got hitting the throat by the other person?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
It turns two pros and a cup of Joe Here
on Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
with you coming up next here, we are going to
tell you about somebody discussing their future in the NFL.
That's yours here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 3 (35:49):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up
top the next hour, We're gonna play a little guessing
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(36:11):
You'll see today's show posted right after we get off
the air. So Aaron Rodgers said he's open to mentoring
the hell out of a young quarterback should the Jets
draft him. He comes back next year and uh and
try and be that uh, you know, that that influence
on a young guy. And Aaron Rodgers has been in
the news obviously with his documentary on Netflix, Enigma, which
(36:33):
we were featured in that.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Yeah, I mean did you know that?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
C Why wouldn't which point we were featured? He was
featured in the show. Do y'all still have the sound?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Our show was featured.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Was it really going to here?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Aaron Rodgers is back. He was spotted, so at least
we know he's in the country, you know. Now the
question is where the hell was he? And when it
finally does come out, is he going to get buried
by bitter people in the media that are going to
be upset?
Speaker 9 (37:08):
Well, I mean there's certain people who have some sort
of an issue with Rogers. But a little bit of
minute genda, if you will.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That was he over there to see the pyramids? Like?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
He wanted to go inside there and see you see
what all the uh.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
All the.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I mean, you know, some would argue.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
That was Is that actually part of it? Or was
I just edited and put together? It sounds like I
was just edited.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
That was actually part out. It was a spoof. I
thought they were spoofing me. Q that that actually, well,
what's only Jonas sentence?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
So my bet is he used it for his show
on Saturday, and that's trying to recycle now because he
recycles a lot of his material from Saturday onto our show.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
That is that. That is not true.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
You can actually hear you start to laugh and then
LeVar make comments afterwards.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
So it was from this show.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Listen to it from halfway through episode three of Enigma
and the Actually they have a bunch of you. They
have the odd couple on there as well. Nobody cares
about them.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
No, that's true. Yeah we did.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
You did kick off the segment.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah, so one more time for me, one more time.
We have time for it. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Aaron Rodgers is back if he was spotted, so at
least we know he's in the country, you know. Now
the big question is where the hell was he And
when it finally does come out, is he going to
get buried by bitter people.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
In the media that are going to be upset?
Speaker 9 (38:31):
Well, I mean there's certain people who have some sort
of an issue with Rogers, but a little bit of
an agenda, if you will.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
That was he over there to see the pyramids? Like?
Is that what it was he wanted to go inside
there and see you see would all the.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Uh, there's the laugh, there's the bar.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Look you sound good too, Jonas? I mean, does it
sounded good?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You go?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
We go?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Baby? You dog? What do you mean? This is us?
It's our show.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Oh no, we're featured.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
That is a Jonas Knox problem. I don't want to
say what you did.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
With that sound.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Swear to God, that's really from the document.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
I'm just saying, I bet you got so much pleasure
from hearing that, so much pleasure, that's all say.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I didn't even thought that was being tricked.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
I didn't even think your poor laundry, don't they laundry?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Thin got a bunch of socks in there?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
You probably God?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Kitty beat? Who need to My first reaction to who
need to boomerang for Christmas?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
How about it? How about it anyway for you Jonas
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