January 28, 2025 • 39 mins
Liam Coen butchers “Duvalll” in his introductory presser with the Jags. LaVar bets on the Steelers keeping Russell Wilson over Justin Fields. Plus, a new age of young coordinators.
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
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find out I'm glad to go together on this?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Did we ever find out what song that was? Who
sang that song? I'm every woman, I'm every woman. That's
shock of con man.
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Speaker 4 (01:54):
It is officially gotten all the way real.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh yeah, she was saying the same as wo dude.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
That was disturbing. Man, it was every part of that.
And I don't know why you sent that. Oh God, Joan,
please don't do that. I just wanted you to understand
what we were saying.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't know how we even got there to that.
He said something one time, and I was like, you
ever seen a movie? Well, I think I know what happened.
What happened before the show even started. You were approached
by that skeezer in the parking lot. Oh wow, wow,
oh wow. She did run up on me. Dog, you
(02:31):
gotta keep moving, just like I did this morning. I
gave her the two figures and directed away, get away.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Somebody's about to kill me.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I understand that, but uh, you're on private property.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And well that's just doesn't fall into my jurisdiction of
things I need to worry about.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
At two thirty am. I'm sorry, my god, You're gonna
have to work that one out on your own.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
All right, well, since we are on the subject of
Shaka Khan shoa on.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Ch oh no his nephew Shod.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You know that's my nickname, what Chaka Khan Shod because
my middle names were shot growing up, I was Shod
really yeah, anyways, go ahead, fun little fact. They called
you Shody, right, Shody, so they not shot t like
shot in Heimer. They called me shot s h A D.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
That's what they shot over Var.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
My mom and dad still call me Shod. Mm hmm
huh yeah. Family family members called me shot.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
That's my that's my Jonas can call you that then?
No would sound right, Chuck, What do I know how,
Jonah said, Var Shot?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, no, no, no, See that's what I've never heard
a white person call me my name, and I don't
think it would sound right.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I'm just being honest. Hello Shod.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Let's move on to a man who just all these
years later discovered I've got an alias, except it was
my original.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
His name Shod, and I'm Brian Humble. But that happens
to be a black man that you're imitating to say
my name like a white man. That's kind of weird. Man,
that's all kinds of contradictions, but it's all good man.
We don't see we don't see racing this. I don't
know that I've ever even allowed anybody in on that
(04:33):
little simple fact, that little titbit fact. But if you
ever saw my mom or my dad and we were
in person and they were talking to me, that's how
they would reference me.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, you'd be like, who what? They just call him?
Like what what do you do? What they say?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, Hi Mom, Hi Dad. Chances are they are listening
big mic, big mic making Carolyn, Yep, there you go.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Anyways, Chack Cohn, shot Cohn, what we got? Yeah, you
want to hear uh?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Remember a few years it was twenty seventeen, it was
twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
What type of head coach did they just get? Man?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
When when Doug Moron was the head coach there they
made that run And I think it was Jalen Ramsey
who coined the phrase douvaal and it became this big
like you know and listen, they probably should have gone
to the Super Bowl, should have been New England in
that AFC title game.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Did you see that new commercial where the dudes like
go uh uh go Tide or tied up for he
was saying all kinds of different ways and saying it,
but he just couldn't say roll tie correctly. It's a
new like a tight commercial. It's a new commercial like
I haven't seen that's kind of funny, but that's like
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got like he messed it up so bad.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Somebody I think I thought he tore it up.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I mean, I listen, I don't know what the issue
is with this.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I mean, this is Liam Cohne trying to bring back
the memories of the last time they were truly a
contender and truly great.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Liam.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Your thoughts on the team he just took over, please, they.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Have anything to do with the change in the front
office structure.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, okay, play the music. Play the music, play it,
play it, please, play it. It should be cued up,
should be cued up. Nope, nope, second time, no, no, no, no, no,
no too late. Play the music, you play, play the music.
We're going to average this one at least one it's.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
A two times come on, come on, one to two times.
This is just that bad.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We are going to play this song at least one
to two times an hour of this show, and every
single time we have it can't get right moment, y'all
gonna hear it is, and then you're gonna start understanding
what this is all about.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
I think we need to surpass and just have our
own sound.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Boys.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Okay, let's go back to do you want you want
to set it up again? Josh that up again? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Liam Cohen trying to do uh who lim Comb is?
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Liam Cohan is the brand new head coach Randy Jacksonville Jaguars.
He tried to harken back to the good old days
when Jalen Ramsey shouted duvall the crowd as they were
trying to go to a super Bowl, And so Liam
Cohen decided.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
To how did he sounds ball?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Now?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Liam gets the same music. Give it, Give it to Limb.
Come on, give it to lim Come on, give it
the Limb. Give it the Limb.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Get right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He ain't even got out of the gates. He ain't
even got out of the gates. And then too the
race yet and he already showing you he can't get right.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Okay, you can't turn it off. I mean he's already
shown you he's a can't get right man.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That is not how you say it.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Can I just defend him on this front. This is
why I want to bury the guy, because it's so
awkward and so uncomfortable, and because maybe p Prisco might
have more on this next hour, because maybe the handling
of his departure from Tampa wasn't done.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
The right way and all that. But remember there was
a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
There was a lot of people when Dan Campbell first
got there that buried him for the biten kneecaps and
all the other stuff, the theatrics. Remember, you know, Nick Siria,
there's no reference point. We got to be careful. Just
because it's awkward in the beginning doesn't mean it's not
going to be success.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, I'm just saying reference point, Jerome Like, there's no
there's no reference points to the things that they have.
But it was it was weirdo stuff that was connected
to them just being weird in the moment. There's no
reference point. I would ask them in the control room,
do they have the way that it's sick? Correctly, But
(08:58):
that's taking a risk about the risk of it. So
at the risk of it, I mean a lot of
people say it.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Because they have to a different SoundBite. It goes like this,
here's how it goes everyone. Here's the correct way of
how you say doo. That's how you say it correctly,
all right, that's how correctly.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
That people may not know about Liam Cohen thirty nine
years old, so he's young. He actually was a pretty
prolific passer at U Mass. Which is one of the
crazy things about him is do you want.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
To know who his roommate was at UMass? Who was
his roommate Victor Cruz? How about NFL wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
He's kind of a little neat fact that is set
like he set like records or something like that, or
six I don't know, something like that. But he was
actually a pretty prolific passer at U Mass. And I
had a short stint with the Alabama Vipers before he
got into coaching, kind of came up through the IVY League,
ended up getting into the NFL. But to Jonas's point
(10:01):
is we all see these cringe worthy moments. I mean, Jonas,
what did Gannon say when he first got to Arizona
routes poor? I no, I just wanted him to do the.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Impression routs shots route.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
But the point is is if you watch that team play,
they play hard. The roster's not where it needs to be,
and yet they're still like So, I'm just I'm kind
of a Jonas on this, So I'm not gonna judge
based on a couple of I don't know, awkward moments
at a press conference. I think he's a good offensive mind.
(10:39):
He was able to help Kentucky back in twenty twenty
one get the ten wins. You know, when you go
on Sean mcvay's staff, it's almost like a rite of
passage because just to get on that staff, you gotta
be sharp, you gotta be smart, you have to be
know your football, know what you're talking about. So he
was able to do that, had a good year two
in Tampa Bay this past year. So look him with
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Trevor once that's the secret for success in Jacksonville. Can
we just be real about that? Yes, like that that
is ultimately what's going to matter most. So and look
even to throwing the Dallas Cowboys into this, They're under
contract with Dak Prescott. At the end of the day,
if Dallas is gonna win jack Dallas is gonna have
a shot at getting to a Super Bowl. Dak's gonna
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be playing his best football and that's why they're hiring
Brian Schoenheimer. It's why they're you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars
are high and Liam Cohen. So you know, we'll see
how this whole thing works out. But that if that's
the just justification behind it, it makes a lot of sense,
regardless of how awkward it may sound and so forth.
And no different than Mike McDaniel and to otanuel by
(11:41):
low which Vara. I mean, you remember how he signed
at his opening press conference.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I remember how does he sound?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Now though, Well, what we're going to do is, well, no,
we're going to get too long. We're going to go
gonna put our sunglasses on, in our lululemons, and we're
gonna go to Prime one twelve and we're gonna go
sit at the bar and we're just gonna mac him
all night long.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
So did he go from blunts to vapes?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, what happens. It's a great reference. Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Here you go instead of cracking them open, gonna get
some wine owls. We gotta crumble it up, we gotta
break it up. Oh my gosh, hey, dude, past the vape.
Let's get out of here, man, Let's go jump in
the lamb bell. Let's get down the South Beach. You
think let's get active. I bet you drives a dope car. Yea,
(12:39):
his whole his whole stage switch up is all the
way real man, Yeah it was real. You know, somebody
built his confidence level up big time. Good for him,
by the way, someone build his confidence level off big big.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Let's here this one will let you do for me.
I'm gonna let you listen to Shotgun. Let you listen
to Shotgun try.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Trying to explain whether or.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Not you gotta stop knowing that bad?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know this, we'm'll let you do for me.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
I'm gonna let you listen to shod con explain how
the TRENTALKI decision to move.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
On another owner explaining something, you.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
Know, after the ten video interviews were done and we
were ready for that was a transition, transition point for
me to reflect and what was the right thing for
the organization.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
And that's when I decided that it was time for
a change.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
After all the interviews, So after all ten, which basically
was they didn't want to listen to everyone else.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
I wanted to listen to the ten guys who are like, yeah,
I'd love this job. But you got rid of Trembulki. Oh,
we're not going to do that. Next guy in please, Yeah,
I'd love to be the head coach here. You have
to get rid of trambulk Okay, all right, well we're
not gonna do with this guy, next guy, please? I mean,
how many times you have to do that before you go?
This is the worst kept secret in the NFL that
(14:10):
Trent Balky was poison to your organization and you didn't
want to listen to anyone. It's crazy to me. I mean, look,
that sort of relationship, whatever Trent Bulky was saying, a
shot con to to stay together and keep him there.
It's very familiar. It reminds me of something else we've
talked about in the show a thousand times, which is uh,
(14:33):
which is what?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Sorry geez, Lee, Sorry about that, Lee.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I don't know. Someone'll let you do it for me though.
You got to stop. You've got to stop. I mean,
maybe he's going to redefine how people say.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Maybe that's the way to say it, now one more time,
that's the right way, but let's do it the other way.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Let's all. That's like the.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I don't even know how to describe that is that like,
is that like the white rapper version of it?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
If they lose, it's.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Before him.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They are going to tear his ass up if they lose,
and that's going to be all reference back to that moment, hit.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It again, Hit it again, hit it.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
It's the fact that his voice gives out at the end,
no way, you're one of us. I think he was
trying to do it, and then he realized part way through, Uh, oh,
you go get this in a hurry.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I can't carry that.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
You ain't from Duvall and you ain't never been to Duvall.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Don't ever come to Duvall, because you wouldn't understand duvault
about a ball play.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
That Jalen Ramsey and then into that one, just to
see the stark difference between the two, if you could, dude,
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And yes, Brady, it is the white version of how
you say, do I said white rapper verse white rapper,
white person. I mean, it's just the same way it's
it's gotta be it's gotta be true, it's gotta be true.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
That isn't even a white rapper.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
One more time.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I don't know what he was going for. I don't
know what he was hearing in his head when he
said it. I don't I don't know what he was
thinking the reaction was going to be. Did he know
he sit it incorrectly? When he sit it in the moment?
And so when everybody laughed, was it a cringe laugh
or was it just a laugh because it was funny
or what?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Type?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
There's so many things to try to determine and interpret
in a moment where your new hit coach does that
at his opening press or I mean, it's just just
a lot.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Different, like Jack Harlow had said, or a little dicky
or something.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I don't know, man, just a lot of just a
lot of emotions that you gotta feel.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Do it one more time? Right, and one more time?
Were those groans or were those laughs? Listen, listen to
the listen to that, do it again.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
How many Jaguar fans you then gave up their season
tickets after I met you? There were gas There were
so many gas for you, like, just say it that way.
I mean, he might as well said something really racist.
I mean, he should have just threw a slur out.
I mean, he doesn't just that's what we should open up.
(17:52):
He should have just said something crazy let me shock
y'all system. What if he just what if he fall
that up by saying that's what I'm gonna do for you.
Douvall words, We've got to just open up. When we
talked to Pete Prisco next hour, let's just open up
with that.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
He totally killed it. They should never say Duvall ever again,
ever again.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It's over. It's over.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
By the way, some guy, some guy tweeted in and
said Jalen Ramsey did not invent it.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It was a chant that was around in the nineties,
started by DJ Eazy.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, so I knew that he didn't create it. I
knew that was what Duvall County people. That's why I've
been I never killed it. Liam kuh Amen, Hey man,
you ain't get that one wrong.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I bet you that same dude can't tweet in and
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You didn't get that one right, because you got that
one all the way right right down the lane out
of there grand slam.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
That said it is a winnable division.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
So you know, it's like and moving on.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Yeah, I'm not gonna not gonna be too critical, So
good luck to gimble say dull I'm just curious, duvall.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You ain't gonna get to do it any other way?
What about Harry Carey?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Vall?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
About Larry? What about Larry Morrow? Or what to do that?
Did you?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Duvall?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
There's a letterman you do as well?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Thank Jim.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
So let me watch watch how Liam Conch just pronouncing
it and said nothing like Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I got Jayalen Ramsey saying do ball the correct way?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Jim so good, so good.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
You have one more than you do really well. See,
I'm trying to think who it is.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I don't think they're all that good.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
No, those are all legit. There's one you try that's
not very good, but that usually I'm trying to think
which one of that was.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, that's solid, thank you, thank you for that.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on foxbor doll backwards?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
How do you say it? Backwards?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Du fall backwards?
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Load do?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's right, by the way. Uh, what I'm gonna let
you do for me? Coming on next.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
You're going to tell you how there's a team in
the NFL that's got a decision to make a quarterback
a real difficult decision.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
They spoke about it yesterday. We'll get into that for
you here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
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Speaker 6 (21:09):
Two Pros and a Couple of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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we're not talking about players. We'll get into that for you.
Just a quick update here. While we're talking about all
(21:31):
these coaching vacancies that have been filled, there's one team
that left that has remained standing, and that would be
the New Orleans Saints, and they have just sent out
a tweet a short time ago that they've completed an
in person interview with Kellen Moore for their head coaching
position last night.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So congratulations for the Saints.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Still searching, still looking, and who knows, maybe when we're
in New Orleans next week. They'll make an announcement and
we can talk about that then. So congratulations to the
Saints who are still putting it together. They're trying to
find their next head coach. Speaking of a team who's
got their head coach, there was actually a couple of
teams who tried to reach out to see about poaching
(22:08):
that head coach from them and possible trade. That would
be the Pittsburgh Steelers. Their owner Art Rooney was on
the Steelers audio network and he spoke about what their
plan is and what they would like to do when
it comes to the quarterback position and Russell Wilson and
Justin Fields.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
I think we saw enough out of both Russell and
Justin to think that we'd like to have at least
one of them back. Probably unlikely to have them both back,
but I think we had enough success with both of
them at different stretches during the season that would be
our first choice is to have one of them back.
But at the same time, you know, we have to
look at the draft, we have to look at what
else is out there. It's you know, we have more
(22:49):
than one job opening in the quarterback room, and we've
got to bring in some people to.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Help us out about that.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
I'm going to make this easy on everybody involved. Russell Wilson,
thank you for your time. Go to Vegas and join
Pete Carroll Justin Fields will give you an opportunity and.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Will for a while there.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
It's a good call.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
You just kneecapping them right away, right away done, at
least you're the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You're like, Nope, not gonna you have more successful with Russell.
But I mean it's a good thought though. I mean,
is he Is he a free agent this year? Is
he a free agent right now? Okay, well, I would
have to say this. I would have to say if
if I'm Pittsburgh and that's what Rooney is saying coming
out of it, you gotta go with Russell Wilson, because
(23:34):
I don't know. I mean, if you're saying that about
both of them, then you're not all the way in
on either one of them. And if you're not all
the way in on either one of them, then you're
not looking at them as a long term solution for
your team. And if you're not looking at them as
a long term solution for your team, then the process
of deduction says, go with the one who gave you
the better results in the short term, which that would
(23:56):
be Russell Wilson, unless Russ has the ability to be
able to command a longer term in a larger contract,
which I don't think either one of them is in
that type of position right now. But if I had
to choose, I would want to keep Russell Wilson over
keeping Justin Fields.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Is there such a difference between the two, Yes, I
just I don't know, man, there is. I mean there's
a difference.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I think younger and cheaper when I think Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And more losses than eventually because I don't think that
as much success as they were having early on with
Justin Fields once once it kind of dried up and
went bad. It just I don't think that it was
going to improve. And that's why Mike, you know, Mike
Tomlin was forced to make the change before it went
(24:44):
all the all the way off the rails. Russell Wilson
showed that he could keep it on the rails, made
it a competitive team throughout the rest of the midway
throughout the rest of the season, and I don't I
think that you come away positive about what Russ was
a to do, and you ask yourself the very very
hard questions of how do you improve this team? And
(25:07):
it's got to be at the receiver's position, it's got
to be a part of that offensive line, and it's
got to be your defense. Your defense has got to
be better. Other aspects and some of the aspects in
the in the past that didn't need to be really
truly addressed by the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Have to now in the in the real time be addressed.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
So no issue you guys have with the report that
came out that Russell Wilson and Arthur Smith didn't really
get along and that was kind of a problem between
those two.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I mean, yeah, you know, who knows?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Does anyone care at this point?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
No, no, yeah, the answer is no, yeah, because they
have the option to pick what you know, either one
coming back, Arthur Smith's going to be there. So is
that going to burn that bridge?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Maybe, but I just I think the future quarterback for
Pittsburgh did not play for them this year. I don't
care if they keep Russell, if they keep justin Fields,
They're gonna add one and that one is gonna be
the one that ends up taking over at some point.
So the tough thing is is how are you gonna
do it through the draft with where you're drafting. I
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don't see that happening. So then the question becomes are
you gonna find something a free agency who If you do,
you're essentially annoying and saying like this guy is like
Kirk Cousins, for example, if you found a way to
trade for Kirk Cousins, which I don't think is gonna
happen unless you know, again, at Atlanta pays the large
portion of the bill, similar to what the Steelers were
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able to get from Denver with Russell Wilson. That would
make some sense, But I mean, I just I'm not
sure what their solution is based on where they sit
in the draft and based on how they do contracts.
It's gonna be tough. You know, whatever one you bring
back is probably gonna be your starter for the year
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and you're gonna have to li with that. As a
Steelers fan, there's no clear direction as to what the
future at the quarterback spot looks like. Doesn't get based
on the dry position, based on how they do contracts,
cap space, all those.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Things, doesn't it kind of feel like this past year
was a waste of time, because like, at the very least,
if you weren't going to win a Super Bowl, at
least you could have some clarity and some answers, some
clear defined answers as.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
To what the future.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I feel like you do have clear defined answer. I
don't think you have less time to have success. Now
that's clear and defined. Mike Tomlin does not have the
same type of grace or the same type of leeway
that he had going into last this past this season,
that is about to conclude. He's not going to have
that same luxury this year. That's why he's on the
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hot seat. I mean, it ain't cold. Damn, it's not
a slab. It ain't a slab. And now I'll say,
the last time I said this, you know, y'all said, oh,
you're sitting on the glacier. You said, and his ass
was up out there the very next year. But we
won't go back to old stuff. But all I'm gonna
say is, well, we never said that. Y'all said that
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man was sitting His ass was on a glacier. That's
how cold his seat was. There was to be no
way that Bill Belichick would ever be let go from
New England.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
And we said that they would read of mutually a
part West.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
That's what we said. Man, they kicked his head, They
ran orchids right up out of there.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Anyway, I think that the same situation exists with Mike
Tomlin this year. So it was while it wasn't a
waste of time, Jonas, it was a.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Losing of time.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And now whatever decision he does make, which that's why,
outside of something extraordinarily wrong like you're OC and your
quarterback don't get along and that could be a detriment,
you gotta go with the guy that gives you the
best opportunity to win. And that, unfortunately was not Justin Fields.
That was not Justin Fields. It was Russell Wilson. And
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now if you choose Justin Fields over Russell Wilson, Russell
Wilson leaves you're banking on using Justin Fields as your
starter for this season unless you find what another free agent,
Like I said, I don't know that you find somebody
in the draft where you're going to be drafting, So
who are you going to find in free agency? And
and does that even improve what your situation was with
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Justin Fields? And Russell Wilson from.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
A year ago.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I'll bet at Primanny's right now, right now here you go,
hold on, dangerous, bro.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Do you talk about off LEAs Plate? His his exact sandwich?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I love?
Speaker 9 (29:39):
Where he?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Or did I not eat off leaves plates?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
That counts?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It was inside the restaurant. I mean it was one time.
You did go one time with an iron City light.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
You did?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You did? That's right, yes you did.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
But I will bet at Primanny's that Justin Fields is
back and Russell Wilson's not.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Who wants this smooth kickings back?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I don't know. I have no idea probably how does
that look. I just think there's pressure this year. There's
pressure to really get it unequivocally right this year, unequivocally
like winning season. I don't think it moves the needle
this year. I just don't. I don't think that does
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not move the needle for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Your battling point,
the hell that you decide to fight on and live
or die on, will not be It was a winning season.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, but at best you're going into next year the
third best team in the division again. Because I would assume.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
But the question you have to ask, the question you
have to ask yourself, is that do the Roonies feel
that way? Do the Rooneyes feel personnel wise that they
are the third best team in a four team division?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The Rooneys feel that way?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
And how much of their GM plays a part or
how much does the head coach play apart? How much
do both of them play apart? Those are now the
questions that have to definitively start to be answered.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
In Pittsburgh, the only reason that.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
They're the third team not the fourth is the quarterback situation,
which is crazy. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. But if
Cleveland could ever figure that out, I think you look
at the roster and say I'd take Cleveland's roster over Pittsburgh's.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Of course, overall personnel wise, yes, yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
But with that being said, but Sandwich, what do you got, Jonas?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
I mean, I'm just saying Justin Field will be the
quarterback in Pittsburgh next year. Russell Wilson will not. One
of the two is coming back. If you believe aren't Rooney,
I'll take Justin Fields. If anybody wants Russell Wilson, you
can come get this smoke and I'll better per Manny
Sandwich on it.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
If anybody wants some to go for a fish.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I mean, if we're if we're at State College next
year and we do a show from the graduate again,
we'll go right over to p Man's.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I know a couple of people.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I'll get us an in the bar, and you know
we can take pictures next to Lebar's face on the wall.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, shouts out the Ashton.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Hold up Ashton at the p Man. You're taking Russell Wilson.
I'll take Russ because he's the most sensible choice. Surface level,
So you can mark that one down good surface level,
because I don't think justin fields gives you what you
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need in order. And I can't believe I'm saying this
because I just do not think that Russell Wilson is
a Pittsburgh guy. But he proved me wrong. I mean,
he settled in and won games for him and you know,
captured the hearts and the minds of Steelers fan faithful
for at least a minute or so. I just think
he gives them the best opportunity to win, not not
(33:05):
justin fields, justin fields.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
That is what pick was that.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I don't need to say nothing else. You're right, Thank you, Lorena.
Why does LeVar get the best drop in the system
on this?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Why do you hate on single time? Why do you
hate on me every single It's just violent? What do
you hate on that? I mean, I'm just I'm here
all the time. I know I work more than you, Jonas,
That's why I have drops.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I'm gonna let you do for man.
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Speaker 3 (35:20):
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Speaker 9 (35:23):
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Speaker 4 (35:39):
I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna let you do.
Whoa tang?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
E's giezer?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
All right?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
So who are talking about?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Declan Doyle who was an assistant with the Denver Broncos,
has now been hired to be the offensive coordinator of
the Chicago Bears. I've also seen that he is the
nephew of Mike Dicka, So there's that, there's the connection there.
But he is taking over as OC. He's not going
to be calling plays for Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
What but.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
What?
Speaker 6 (36:25):
But he's going to be the offensive coordinator? Okay, twenty
eight years old?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
How does that work?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Doing it at twenty eight?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
No, how does it work in the OC? But you
call him the plays?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
What is the that was the enemy? Right or anybody who's.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
That's a lot of us. He's like every OC for
Sean McVay has been that.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
So what what do they do? So what do they do?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
They're in charge of like organizing the game planning and stuff,
a lot of the breakdowns, et cetera. Oftentimes what may
happen is they are not the ones selecting the play.
See you in your call sheet each play's number. They
will the actual guy who's calling the plays might say like, hey,
play seventeen, and then they'll call it in. Oh interesting,
(37:15):
So their headset might not be connected to the coach.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
The quarterback. They're they're the middle man. Yeah, that happens sometimes,
but I.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Mean at twenty eight years old, not a bad gig.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Twenty eight years old, you know us thinking too, Think
about think about Declan. He grew up basically with the
ability from probably the earliest time you can remember. Like
you like, like, what's the most recent childhood memory for you?
Is it like four or five years old?
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Do you say?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Yeah, that's about that. The NFL in two thousand and
three started allowing people to purchase the ability to watch
game film. So for anyone who questions, a lot of
these young cats are in the NFL now. Some of
these kids have been like doing this stuff since they
were in junior high, have been like breaking down NFL
film and hoping to one day be a coach. So
(38:07):
I never second guess it because some of these kids
are like whiz kids and they and they know the game.
They've seen the game. They may not have played, or
even if they played, it may have been at a
lower level, but they understand the game at an extremely
high level because the resources they've had their entire life.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
It's like learning an instrument as a child. You can
pick it up quicker than you can.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Tell me about Itish, my vocal cords can't do. I
can't speak foreign languages because my vocal cords will not
allow me to.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
It's like anything when you're young, learning work ethic, you know,
learning not to you know, oversleep or you know sleep
in or I want to over you miss out of
stuff for work.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
You know I wanted to miss work today.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, I get that those are all habits when you're young, though,
you know
Speaker 3 (39:00):
The same thing he's doing now alive, he shouted.
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find out I'm glad to go together on this?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
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shock of con man.
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It is officially gotten all the way real.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh yeah, she was saying the same as wo dude.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
That was disturbing. Man, it was every part of that.
And I don't know why you sent that. Oh God, Joan,
please don't do that. I just wanted you to understand
what we were saying.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't know how we even got there to that.
He said something one time, and I was like, you
ever seen a movie? Well, I think I know what happened.
What happened before the show even started. You were approached
by that skeezer in the parking lot. Oh wow, wow,
oh wow. She did run up on me. Dog, you
(02:31):
gotta keep moving, just like I did this morning. I
gave her the two figures and directed away, get away.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Somebody's about to kill me.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I understand that, but uh, you're on private property.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And well that's just doesn't fall into my jurisdiction of
things I need to worry about.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
At two thirty am. I'm sorry, my god, You're gonna
have to work that one out on your own.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
All right, well, since we are on the subject of
Shaka Khan shoa on.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Ch oh no his nephew Shod.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You know that's my nickname, what Chaka Khan Shod because
my middle names were shot growing up, I was Shod
really yeah, anyways, go ahead, fun little fact. They called
you Shody, right, Shody, so they not shot t like
shot in Heimer. They called me shot s h A D.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
That's what they shot over Var.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
My mom and dad still call me Shod. Mm hmm
huh yeah. Family family members called me shot.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
That's my that's my Jonas can call you that then?
No would sound right, Chuck, What do I know how,
Jonah said, Var Shot?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, no, no, no, See that's what I've never heard
a white person call me my name, and I don't
think it would sound right.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I'm just being honest. Hello Shod.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Let's move on to a man who just all these
years later discovered I've got an alias, except it was
my original.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
His name Shod, and I'm Brian Humble. But that happens
to be a black man that you're imitating to say
my name like a white man. That's kind of weird. Man,
that's all kinds of contradictions, but it's all good man.
We don't see we don't see racing this. I don't
know that I've ever even allowed anybody in on that
(04:33):
little simple fact, that little titbit fact. But if you
ever saw my mom or my dad and we were
in person and they were talking to me, that's how
they would reference me.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, you'd be like, who what? They just call him?
Like what what do you do? What they say?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, Hi Mom, Hi Dad. Chances are they are listening
big mic, big mic making Carolyn, Yep, there you go.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Anyways, Chack Cohn, shot Cohn, what we got? Yeah, you
want to hear uh?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Remember a few years it was twenty seventeen, it was
twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
What type of head coach did they just get? Man?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
When when Doug Moron was the head coach there they
made that run And I think it was Jalen Ramsey
who coined the phrase douvaal and it became this big
like you know and listen, they probably should have gone
to the Super Bowl, should have been New England in
that AFC title game.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Did you see that new commercial where the dudes like
go uh uh go Tide or tied up for he
was saying all kinds of different ways and saying it,
but he just couldn't say roll tie correctly. It's a
new like a tight commercial. It's a new commercial like
I haven't seen that's kind of funny, but that's like
(05:46):
got like he messed it up so bad.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Somebody I think I thought he tore it up.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I mean, I listen, I don't know what the issue
is with this.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I mean, this is Liam Cohne trying to bring back
the memories of the last time they were truly a
contender and truly great.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Liam.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Your thoughts on the team he just took over, please, they.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Have anything to do with the change in the front
office structure.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, okay, play the music. Play the music, play it,
play it, please, play it. It should be cued up,
should be cued up. Nope, nope, second time, no, no, no, no, no,
no too late. Play the music, you play, play the music.
We're going to average this one at least one it's.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
A two times come on, come on, one to two times.
This is just that bad.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We are going to play this song at least one
to two times an hour of this show, and every
single time we have it can't get right moment, y'all
gonna hear it is, and then you're gonna start understanding
what this is all about.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
I think we need to surpass and just have our
own sound.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Boys.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Okay, let's go back to do you want you want
to set it up again? Josh that up again? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Liam Cohen trying to do uh who lim Comb is?
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Liam Cohan is the brand new head coach Randy Jacksonville Jaguars.
He tried to harken back to the good old days
when Jalen Ramsey shouted duvall the crowd as they were
trying to go to a super Bowl, And so Liam
Cohen decided.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
To how did he sounds ball?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Now?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Liam gets the same music. Give it, Give it to Limb.
Come on, give it to lim Come on, give it
the Limb. Give it the Limb.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Get right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He ain't even got out of the gates. He ain't
even got out of the gates. And then too the
race yet and he already showing you he can't get right.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Okay, you can't turn it off. I mean he's already
shown you he's a can't get right man.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That is not how you say it.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Can I just defend him on this front. This is
why I want to bury the guy, because it's so
awkward and so uncomfortable, and because maybe p Prisco might
have more on this next hour, because maybe the handling
of his departure from Tampa wasn't done.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
The right way and all that. But remember there was
a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
There was a lot of people when Dan Campbell first
got there that buried him for the biten kneecaps and
all the other stuff, the theatrics. Remember, you know, Nick Siria,
there's no reference point. We got to be careful. Just
because it's awkward in the beginning doesn't mean it's not
going to be success.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, I'm just saying reference point, Jerome Like, there's no
there's no reference points to the things that they have.
But it was it was weirdo stuff that was connected
to them just being weird in the moment. There's no
reference point. I would ask them in the control room,
do they have the way that it's sick? Correctly, But
(08:58):
that's taking a risk about the risk of it. So
at the risk of it, I mean a lot of
people say it.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Because they have to a different SoundBite. It goes like this,
here's how it goes everyone. Here's the correct way of
how you say doo. That's how you say it correctly,
all right, that's how correctly.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
That people may not know about Liam Cohen thirty nine
years old, so he's young. He actually was a pretty
prolific passer at U Mass. Which is one of the
crazy things about him is do you want.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
To know who his roommate was at UMass? Who was
his roommate Victor Cruz? How about NFL wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
He's kind of a little neat fact that is set
like he set like records or something like that, or
six I don't know, something like that. But he was
actually a pretty prolific passer at U Mass. And I
had a short stint with the Alabama Vipers before he
got into coaching, kind of came up through the IVY League,
ended up getting into the NFL. But to Jonas's point
(10:01):
is we all see these cringe worthy moments. I mean, Jonas,
what did Gannon say when he first got to Arizona
routes poor? I no, I just wanted him to do the.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Impression routs shots route.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
But the point is is if you watch that team play,
they play hard. The roster's not where it needs to be,
and yet they're still like So, I'm just I'm kind
of a Jonas on this, So I'm not gonna judge
based on a couple of I don't know, awkward moments
at a press conference. I think he's a good offensive mind.
(10:39):
He was able to help Kentucky back in twenty twenty
one get the ten wins. You know, when you go
on Sean mcvay's staff, it's almost like a rite of
passage because just to get on that staff, you gotta
be sharp, you gotta be smart, you have to be
know your football, know what you're talking about. So he
was able to do that, had a good year two
in Tampa Bay this past year. So look him with
(10:59):
Trevor once that's the secret for success in Jacksonville. Can
we just be real about that? Yes, like that that
is ultimately what's going to matter most. So and look
even to throwing the Dallas Cowboys into this, They're under
contract with Dak Prescott. At the end of the day,
if Dallas is gonna win jack Dallas is gonna have
a shot at getting to a Super Bowl. Dak's gonna
(11:20):
be playing his best football and that's why they're hiring
Brian Schoenheimer. It's why they're you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars
are high and Liam Cohen. So you know, we'll see
how this whole thing works out. But that if that's
the just justification behind it, it makes a lot of sense,
regardless of how awkward it may sound and so forth.
And no different than Mike McDaniel and to otanuel by
(11:41):
low which Vara. I mean, you remember how he signed
at his opening press conference.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I remember how does he sound?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Now though, Well, what we're going to do is, well, no,
we're going to get too long. We're going to go
gonna put our sunglasses on, in our lululemons, and we're
gonna go to Prime one twelve and we're gonna go
sit at the bar and we're just gonna mac him
all night long.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
So did he go from blunts to vapes?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, what happens. It's a great reference. Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Here you go instead of cracking them open, gonna get
some wine owls. We gotta crumble it up, we gotta
break it up. Oh my gosh, hey, dude, past the vape.
Let's get out of here, man, Let's go jump in
the lamb bell. Let's get down the South Beach. You
think let's get active. I bet you drives a dope car. Yea,
(12:39):
his whole his whole stage switch up is all the
way real man, Yeah it was real. You know, somebody
built his confidence level up big time. Good for him,
by the way, someone build his confidence level off big big.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Let's here this one will let you do for me.
I'm gonna let you listen to Shotgun. Let you listen
to Shotgun try.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Trying to explain whether or.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Not you gotta stop knowing that bad?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know this, we'm'll let you do for me.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
I'm gonna let you listen to shod con explain how
the TRENTALKI decision to move.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
On another owner explaining something, you.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
Know, after the ten video interviews were done and we
were ready for that was a transition, transition point for
me to reflect and what was the right thing for
the organization.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
And that's when I decided that it was time for
a change.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
After all the interviews, So after all ten, which basically
was they didn't want to listen to everyone else.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
I wanted to listen to the ten guys who are like, yeah,
I'd love this job. But you got rid of Trembulki. Oh,
we're not going to do that. Next guy in please, Yeah,
I'd love to be the head coach here. You have
to get rid of trambulk Okay, all right, well we're
not gonna do with this guy, next guy, please? I mean,
how many times you have to do that before you go?
This is the worst kept secret in the NFL that
(14:10):
Trent Balky was poison to your organization and you didn't
want to listen to anyone. It's crazy to me. I mean, look,
that sort of relationship, whatever Trent Bulky was saying, a
shot con to to stay together and keep him there.
It's very familiar. It reminds me of something else we've
talked about in the show a thousand times, which is uh,
(14:33):
which is what?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Sorry geez, Lee, Sorry about that, Lee.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I don't know. Someone'll let you do it for me though.
You got to stop. You've got to stop. I mean,
maybe he's going to redefine how people say.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Maybe that's the way to say it, now one more time,
that's the right way, but let's do it the other way.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Let's all. That's like the.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I don't even know how to describe that is that like,
is that like the white rapper version of it?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
If they lose, it's.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Before him.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They are going to tear his ass up if they lose,
and that's going to be all reference back to that moment, hit.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It again, Hit it again, hit it.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
It's the fact that his voice gives out at the end,
no way, you're one of us. I think he was
trying to do it, and then he realized part way through, Uh, oh,
you go get this in a hurry.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I can't carry that.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
You ain't from Duvall and you ain't never been to Duvall.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Don't ever come to Duvall, because you wouldn't understand duvault
about a ball play.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
That Jalen Ramsey and then into that one, just to
see the stark difference between the two, if you could, dude,
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And yes, Brady, it is the white version of how
you say, do I said white rapper verse white rapper,
white person. I mean, it's just the same way it's
it's gotta be it's gotta be true, it's gotta be true.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
That isn't even a white rapper.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
One more time.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I don't know what he was going for. I don't
know what he was hearing in his head when he
said it. I don't I don't know what he was
thinking the reaction was going to be. Did he know
he sit it incorrectly? When he sit it in the moment?
And so when everybody laughed, was it a cringe laugh
or was it just a laugh because it was funny
or what?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Type?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
There's so many things to try to determine and interpret
in a moment where your new hit coach does that
at his opening press or I mean, it's just just
a lot.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Different, like Jack Harlow had said, or a little dicky
or something.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I don't know, man, just a lot of just a
lot of emotions that you gotta feel.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Do it one more time? Right, and one more time?
Were those groans or were those laughs? Listen, listen to
the listen to that, do it again.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
How many Jaguar fans you then gave up their season
tickets after I met you? There were gas There were
so many gas for you, like, just say it that way.
I mean, he might as well said something really racist.
I mean, he should have just threw a slur out.
I mean, he doesn't just that's what we should open up.
(17:52):
He should have just said something crazy let me shock
y'all system. What if he just what if he fall
that up by saying that's what I'm gonna do for you.
Douvall words, We've got to just open up. When we
talked to Pete Prisco next hour, let's just open up
with that.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
He totally killed it. They should never say Duvall ever again,
ever again.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It's over. It's over.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
By the way, some guy, some guy tweeted in and
said Jalen Ramsey did not invent it.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It was a chant that was around in the nineties,
started by DJ Eazy.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, so I knew that he didn't create it. I
knew that was what Duvall County people. That's why I've
been I never killed it. Liam kuh Amen, Hey man,
you ain't get that one wrong.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I bet you that same dude can't tweet in and
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You didn't get that one right, because you got that
one all the way right right down the lane out
of there grand slam.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
That said it is a winnable division.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
So you know, it's like and moving on.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Yeah, I'm not gonna not gonna be too critical, So
good luck to gimble say dull I'm just curious, duvall.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You ain't gonna get to do it any other way?
What about Harry Carey?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Vall?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
About Larry? What about Larry Morrow? Or what to do that?
Did you?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Duvall?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
There's a letterman you do as well?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Thank Jim.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
So let me watch watch how Liam Conch just pronouncing
it and said nothing like Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I got Jayalen Ramsey saying do ball the correct way?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Jim so good, so good.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
You have one more than you do really well. See,
I'm trying to think who it is.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I don't think they're all that good.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
No, those are all legit. There's one you try that's
not very good, but that usually I'm trying to think
which one of that was.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, that's solid, thank you, thank you for that.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on foxbor doll backwards?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
How do you say it? Backwards?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Du fall backwards?
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Load do?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's right, by the way. Uh, what I'm gonna let
you do for me? Coming on next.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
You're going to tell you how there's a team in
the NFL that's got a decision to make a quarterback
a real difficult decision.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
They spoke about it yesterday. We'll get into that for
you here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
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Speaker 6 (21:09):
Two Pros and a Couple of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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we're not talking about players. We'll get into that for you.
Just a quick update here. While we're talking about all
(21:31):
these coaching vacancies that have been filled, there's one team
that left that has remained standing, and that would be
the New Orleans Saints, and they have just sent out
a tweet a short time ago that they've completed an
in person interview with Kellen Moore for their head coaching
position last night.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So congratulations for the Saints.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Still searching, still looking, and who knows, maybe when we're
in New Orleans next week. They'll make an announcement and
we can talk about that then. So congratulations to the
Saints who are still putting it together. They're trying to
find their next head coach. Speaking of a team who's
got their head coach, there was actually a couple of
teams who tried to reach out to see about poaching
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that head coach from them and possible trade. That would
be the Pittsburgh Steelers. Their owner Art Rooney was on
the Steelers audio network and he spoke about what their
plan is and what they would like to do when
it comes to the quarterback position and Russell Wilson and
Justin Fields.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
I think we saw enough out of both Russell and
Justin to think that we'd like to have at least
one of them back. Probably unlikely to have them both back,
but I think we had enough success with both of
them at different stretches during the season that would be
our first choice is to have one of them back.
But at the same time, you know, we have to
look at the draft, we have to look at what
else is out there. It's you know, we have more
(22:49):
than one job opening in the quarterback room, and we've
got to bring in some people to.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Help us out about that.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
I'm going to make this easy on everybody involved. Russell Wilson,
thank you for your time. Go to Vegas and join
Pete Carroll Justin Fields will give you an opportunity and.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Will for a while there.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
It's a good call.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
You just kneecapping them right away, right away done, at
least you're the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You're like, Nope, not gonna you have more successful with Russell.
But I mean it's a good thought though. I mean,
is he Is he a free agent this year? Is
he a free agent right now? Okay, well, I would
have to say this. I would have to say if
if I'm Pittsburgh and that's what Rooney is saying coming
out of it, you gotta go with Russell Wilson, because
(23:34):
I don't know. I mean, if you're saying that about
both of them, then you're not all the way in
on either one of them. And if you're not all
the way in on either one of them, then you're
not looking at them as a long term solution for
your team. And if you're not looking at them as
a long term solution for your team, then the process
of deduction says, go with the one who gave you
the better results in the short term, which that would
(23:56):
be Russell Wilson, unless Russ has the ability to be
able to command a longer term in a larger contract,
which I don't think either one of them is in
that type of position right now. But if I had
to choose, I would want to keep Russell Wilson over
keeping Justin Fields.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Is there such a difference between the two, Yes, I
just I don't know, man, there is. I mean there's
a difference.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I think younger and cheaper when I think Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And more losses than eventually because I don't think that
as much success as they were having early on with
Justin Fields once once it kind of dried up and
went bad. It just I don't think that it was
going to improve. And that's why Mike, you know, Mike
Tomlin was forced to make the change before it went
(24:44):
all the all the way off the rails. Russell Wilson
showed that he could keep it on the rails, made
it a competitive team throughout the rest of the midway
throughout the rest of the season, and I don't I
think that you come away positive about what Russ was
a to do, and you ask yourself the very very
hard questions of how do you improve this team? And
(25:07):
it's got to be at the receiver's position, it's got
to be a part of that offensive line, and it's
got to be your defense. Your defense has got to
be better. Other aspects and some of the aspects in
the in the past that didn't need to be really
truly addressed by the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Have to now in the in the real time be addressed.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
So no issue you guys have with the report that
came out that Russell Wilson and Arthur Smith didn't really
get along and that was kind of a problem between
those two.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I mean, yeah, you know, who knows?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Does anyone care at this point?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
No, no, yeah, the answer is no, yeah, because they
have the option to pick what you know, either one
coming back, Arthur Smith's going to be there. So is
that going to burn that bridge?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Maybe, but I just I think the future quarterback for
Pittsburgh did not play for them this year. I don't
care if they keep Russell, if they keep justin Fields,
They're gonna add one and that one is gonna be
the one that ends up taking over at some point.
So the tough thing is is how are you gonna
do it through the draft with where you're drafting. I
(26:16):
don't see that happening. So then the question becomes are
you gonna find something a free agency who If you do,
you're essentially annoying and saying like this guy is like
Kirk Cousins, for example, if you found a way to
trade for Kirk Cousins, which I don't think is gonna
happen unless you know, again, at Atlanta pays the large
portion of the bill, similar to what the Steelers were
(26:38):
able to get from Denver with Russell Wilson. That would
make some sense, But I mean, I just I'm not
sure what their solution is based on where they sit
in the draft and based on how they do contracts.
It's gonna be tough. You know, whatever one you bring
back is probably gonna be your starter for the year
(26:59):
and you're gonna have to li with that. As a
Steelers fan, there's no clear direction as to what the
future at the quarterback spot looks like. Doesn't get based
on the dry position, based on how they do contracts,
cap space, all those.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Things, doesn't it kind of feel like this past year
was a waste of time, because like, at the very least,
if you weren't going to win a Super Bowl, at
least you could have some clarity and some answers, some
clear defined answers as.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
To what the future.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I feel like you do have clear defined answer. I
don't think you have less time to have success. Now
that's clear and defined. Mike Tomlin does not have the
same type of grace or the same type of leeway
that he had going into last this past this season,
that is about to conclude. He's not going to have
that same luxury this year. That's why he's on the
(27:47):
hot seat. I mean, it ain't cold. Damn, it's not
a slab. It ain't a slab. And now I'll say,
the last time I said this, you know, y'all said, oh,
you're sitting on the glacier. You said, and his ass
was up out there the very next year. But we
won't go back to old stuff. But all I'm gonna
say is, well, we never said that. Y'all said that
(28:08):
man was sitting His ass was on a glacier. That's
how cold his seat was. There was to be no
way that Bill Belichick would ever be let go from
New England.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
And we said that they would read of mutually a
part West.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
That's what we said. Man, they kicked his head, They
ran orchids right up out of there.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Anyway, I think that the same situation exists with Mike
Tomlin this year. So it was while it wasn't a
waste of time, Jonas, it was a.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Losing of time.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And now whatever decision he does make, which that's why,
outside of something extraordinarily wrong like you're OC and your
quarterback don't get along and that could be a detriment,
you gotta go with the guy that gives you the
best opportunity to win. And that, unfortunately was not Justin Fields.
That was not Justin Fields. It was Russell Wilson. And
(28:58):
now if you choose Justin Fields over Russell Wilson, Russell
Wilson leaves you're banking on using Justin Fields as your
starter for this season unless you find what another free agent,
Like I said, I don't know that you find somebody
in the draft where you're going to be drafting, So
who are you going to find in free agency? And
and does that even improve what your situation was with
(29:21):
Justin Fields? And Russell Wilson from.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
A year ago.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I'll bet at Primanny's right now, right now here you go,
hold on, dangerous, bro.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Do you talk about off LEAs Plate? His his exact sandwich?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I love?
Speaker 9 (29:39):
Where he?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Or did I not eat off leaves plates?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
That counts?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It was inside the restaurant. I mean it was one time.
You did go one time with an iron City light.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
You did?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You did? That's right, yes you did.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
But I will bet at Primanny's that Justin Fields is
back and Russell Wilson's not.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Who wants this smooth kickings back?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I don't know. I have no idea probably how does
that look. I just think there's pressure this year. There's
pressure to really get it unequivocally right this year, unequivocally
like winning season. I don't think it moves the needle
this year. I just don't. I don't think that does
(30:26):
not move the needle for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Your battling point,
the hell that you decide to fight on and live
or die on, will not be It was a winning season.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, but at best you're going into next year the
third best team in the division again. Because I would assume.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
But the question you have to ask, the question you
have to ask yourself, is that do the Roonies feel
that way? Do the Rooneyes feel personnel wise that they
are the third best team in a four team division?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The Rooneys feel that way?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
And how much of their GM plays a part or
how much does the head coach play apart? How much
do both of them play apart? Those are now the
questions that have to definitively start to be answered.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
In Pittsburgh, the only reason that.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
They're the third team not the fourth is the quarterback situation,
which is crazy. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. But if
Cleveland could ever figure that out, I think you look
at the roster and say I'd take Cleveland's roster over Pittsburgh's.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Of course, overall personnel wise, yes, yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
But with that being said, but Sandwich, what do you got, Jonas?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
I mean, I'm just saying Justin Field will be the
quarterback in Pittsburgh next year. Russell Wilson will not. One
of the two is coming back. If you believe aren't Rooney,
I'll take Justin Fields. If anybody wants Russell Wilson, you
can come get this smoke and I'll better per Manny
Sandwich on it.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
If anybody wants some to go for a fish.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I mean, if we're if we're at State College next
year and we do a show from the graduate again,
we'll go right over to p Man's.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I know a couple of people.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I'll get us an in the bar, and you know
we can take pictures next to Lebar's face on the wall.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, shouts out the Ashton.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Hold up Ashton at the p Man. You're taking Russell Wilson.
I'll take Russ because he's the most sensible choice. Surface level,
So you can mark that one down good surface level,
because I don't think justin fields gives you what you
(32:42):
need in order. And I can't believe I'm saying this
because I just do not think that Russell Wilson is
a Pittsburgh guy. But he proved me wrong. I mean,
he settled in and won games for him and you know,
captured the hearts and the minds of Steelers fan faithful
for at least a minute or so. I just think
he gives them the best opportunity to win, not not
(33:05):
justin fields, justin fields.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
That is what pick was that.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I don't need to say nothing else. You're right, Thank you, Lorena.
Why does LeVar get the best drop in the system
on this?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Why do you hate on single time? Why do you
hate on me every single It's just violent? What do
you hate on that? I mean, I'm just I'm here
all the time. I know I work more than you, Jonas,
That's why I have drops.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I'm gonna let you do for man.
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Speaker 9 (35:23):
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Speaker 4 (35:39):
I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna let you do.
Whoa tang?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
E's giezer?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
All right?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
So who are talking about?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Declan Doyle who was an assistant with the Denver Broncos,
has now been hired to be the offensive coordinator of
the Chicago Bears. I've also seen that he is the
nephew of Mike Dicka, So there's that, there's the connection there.
But he is taking over as OC. He's not going
to be calling plays for Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
What but.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
What?
Speaker 6 (36:25):
But he's going to be the offensive coordinator? Okay, twenty
eight years old?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
How does that work?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Doing it at twenty eight?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
No, how does it work in the OC? But you
call him the plays?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
What is the that was the enemy? Right or anybody who's.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
That's a lot of us. He's like every OC for
Sean McVay has been that.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
So what what do they do? So what do they do?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
They're in charge of like organizing the game planning and stuff,
a lot of the breakdowns, et cetera. Oftentimes what may
happen is they are not the ones selecting the play.
See you in your call sheet each play's number. They
will the actual guy who's calling the plays might say like, hey,
play seventeen, and then they'll call it in. Oh interesting,
(37:15):
So their headset might not be connected to the coach.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
The quarterback. They're they're the middle man. Yeah, that happens sometimes,
but I.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Mean at twenty eight years old, not a bad gig.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Twenty eight years old, you know us thinking too, Think
about think about Declan. He grew up basically with the
ability from probably the earliest time you can remember. Like
you like, like, what's the most recent childhood memory for you?
Is it like four or five years old?
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Do you say?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Yeah, that's about that. The NFL in two thousand and
three started allowing people to purchase the ability to watch
game film. So for anyone who questions, a lot of
these young cats are in the NFL now. Some of
these kids have been like doing this stuff since they
were in junior high, have been like breaking down NFL
film and hoping to one day be a coach. So
(38:07):
I never second guess it because some of these kids
are like whiz kids and they and they know the game.
They've seen the game. They may not have played, or
even if they played, it may have been at a
lower level, but they understand the game at an extremely
high level because the resources they've had their entire life.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
It's like learning an instrument as a child. You can
pick it up quicker than you can.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Tell me about Itish, my vocal cords can't do. I
can't speak foreign languages because my vocal cords will not
allow me to.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
It's like anything when you're young, learning work ethic, you know,
learning not to you know, oversleep or you know sleep
in or I want to over you miss out of
stuff for work.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
You know I wanted to miss work today.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, I get that those are all habits when you're young, though,
you know
Speaker 3 (39:00):
The same thing he's doing now alive, he shouted.
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