May 6, 2025 • 39 mins
The crew gets hyped for the Draft heading to Pittsburgh and D.C. in consecutive years. The guys have a topic roundup including Quinn Ewers, the Tush Push, Sherrone Moore’s suspension and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Okay, doesn't this sound like a lee? You're a degenerate
theme park guy. Doesn't this sound like something you would
hear on the way into a riot at Universal, like.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Maybe the Mummy. I thought it was the Mummy when
I first heard it, to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Cause you immediately thought they were in Egypt a radio
or something.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, sure, all right. It feels offensive, but it
kind of does, is what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I mean, it's a great sunsariane't you want to say
it sounds offensive, but you took him down the line.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It didn't have to be the Mummy. Gonna pick something else,
lordns of Arabia. Uh it is uh, Two Pros and
a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you, and as we start
our two of the program, we did want to just
give a shout out here, you know, a special shout
out to one LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Var let's go for you.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Next two NFL drafts have your name written all over them.
The draft is gonna be in Pittsburgh. This obviously coming
off the successful run in Greenville before a couple.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Of weeks ago. Let's go, you gotta go.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
This is uh, this is gonna be in Pittsburgh this
next year, and then after that, as announced yesterday, it'll
be Adelphia, d C. And they're expecting I think I
saw the number was a million people. They're expecting in
d C. Is where they're going to be doing the draft.
And the location of this. I've not been to d C,
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so LeVar, you tell me where this is. It'll be
on the National Mall between the US Capital and the
Washington Monument.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
So it's a big space.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's like where most historical gatherings of multitudes of people,
that's where that's taking place.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
So I believe is that where.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't want to misspeak for no, no, no, no, no,
I don't want to. The National Mall is is where
most historical gatherings take place, is what I'll say.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, And I want to, man, I want.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
To say, that's like where is that where the inauguration
takes place? Like like I feel like I don't know,
I feel like there's something that because I know within
the mall it is connected to like the Lincoln Memorial
stuff like that, the the Smithsonians. Yeah, the wall is
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there as well, like everything's in that area, So the
Vietnam Wall, the Veterans Wall is there.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I mean you can go ahead say it like that's
where Martin Luther King delivered IVY dream.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, no, no, that's not well. Yes, that, like I said,
most historical stuff. But I wanted to say, I feel
like that's where the inauguration takes place. But I don't
want to misspeak on and I wasn't looking it up,
so I was just off the top of my ear
my head.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
But Fraddy, why would you assume that that's where he
was going?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Yeah, that is what he did, like target this specific thing,
which I thought, you know, it would.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Be well identify that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I felt like those are kind of Givens like the
million Man March, the you know Martin Luther King gave us.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I have a dream speech there.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
But it's also where the National Cherry Blossom.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Festival is festival.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yeah, it's also the National Mall of pickle Ball.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Really, I know that I haven't been there. I haven't
been there, so that's something new. I haven't that's something new,
oh though, But it's a dope place. And it's right
down town, like it's on constitution, off of constitution, like
it's it's right there.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
So yeah, we gotta go cherry blossoms. Huh.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I tell you about the cherry blossoms every year and
you always give me gruff.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Gruff.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
What do you mean you said you wanted to go
to Japan on a whim to see cherry Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, Washington, d C.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
And Japan.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
It sounds like someone went to Japan on a whim
on you, and that's why you're trying to get paid back.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
A hard shot to the body by Quinn inside Baseball.
But actually, but accurate, what now, I can't go to Japan.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
You in Japan would be a disaster. A beautiful disaster,
but a disaster.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I mean, there's a lot of places that would be
a disaster.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
If you can't get through New Orleans without face planning.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, Lee just thought a whim was like, yeah, I
think I'm gonna go to maybe Tokyo. Take some time
and go to Tokyo. What are you thinking about that?
Then he it was like within a month, Yeah, yeah,
cherry blossoms are out.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah, what great prices world to see m No, but
I mean it was good timing.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Somebody tweet Lee a picture of cherry blossoms and save
him five grand if you could.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Well, or go to d C.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
That's the other place you can go to see him.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
The inauguration, This ceremony takes place in I guess, different
places at different times, but has been I guess since
nineteen eighty one inauguration of Ronald Reagan. The ceremony has
been held at the West front of the United States
Capital to your head right now, I'm reading it facing
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the National Mall with its iconic Washington Monument and distant
Leacoln Memorial.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
So yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I mean, you know, I was d C four minute.
I always love d C, but I I was d
C four minute. You know, you pulled up to what
then FedEx Field. That was three stories of pissed off
looking at you pulling in to Yeah to FedEx Field. Baby,
(06:46):
come into my house. Welcome to my house.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, stepped to the five six, you step into the
trainer's room. Thanks Serengetti out here.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
It is the Serengetti.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Oh the way I'm looking up Cherry awesome is right now.
It's basically a high biscus with no balls. Dang, what
a waste all this overhype?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
So are we doing?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Are we going to Pittsburgh and DC for this? We
got to get out there, man, it is That is
a double double for me, for real.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Because if the NFL is putting on these big events
and they're having the success that they're gonna have, and
I know people are saying, well, Chador is the one
who carried the draft. I get it, and you know
arch Manning will be in the draft this next year.
But the fact that you're getting the NFL putting so
much into these things being shopped around and now everybody
raises their hand and wants it because they're like, we
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can't get a Super Bowl? Can we at least get
a draft? I would feel like the media coverage on
these are probably going to grow. Has the media coverage
grown on the combine. It feels like it's growing on
the combine as well too. It's evolved, it's one involved.
It's definitely a bigger production by the year. But it's
interesting because this year, I don't know, Q, you tell me,
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but I think this year was the largest amount of
non just blatant non participants, like.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No reason, no rhyme or reason, just I'm not participating
in the draft or a combine. No, no, the combine.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yeah, So it's becoming more common now for guys. And
there's two reasons for it. There's always injuries, so that's
like the other reason. Third, I guess the other two
are the season now extends so long that there's really
not adequate time for the players to rest, recover, train,
and prepare for the combine. And I almost wouldn't hate
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if they adjusted it back a week or two now
because of the college football playoff schedule. I mean, think
about it. We expanded out of twelve teams, Imagine if
you go to sixteen, Imagine if you go an even
larger than that, there is a thought that you're adding
on an additional week maybe and so that's again gonna
limit a lot of your top prospects, which if you've
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got the top twelve, let's say it goes to sixteen teams.
There's a lot of players coming from those top prospects
that you want to see at the combine that are
gonna drive ratings, so maybe makes sense to give them
a little bit more room before having such an event.
But that's one of the reasons the season and length.
And then the last one is there's just guys who
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are like, I don't want to be evaluated and have
my potential stock drop for running a forty when I'm
one not prepared, but too it doesn't really have any
application to the game of football. So I'm gonna wait
to do it my pro day, or I'll wait to
do it in a private workout, or I'll never do it.
There's some prospects who never did it, Yeah, and they're
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perfectly healthy. So there also is that wave of players
who are saying, I'm not gonna go participate in your combine,
meaning I'll do the medical, do the interviews, I'll do
everything else I need to do, but I'm gonna wait
for my pro day, and that my pro day I'll
choose what I want to do and if you want
to see more, you can have me for a private workout,
which I don't have an issue with because when it
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comes down to it, the combine has now become and
made for TV event. It's not made for players trying
to perform at their best anymore. It's just not the
way the schedule sets up for the players is not
in their best interest. It's all about the NFL and
selling the TV media rights for it.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Mad Man ran a four to four to one in
their their uh, their pro day, by the way, that's
pretty exciting.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Speaking of forties electric too.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Why was he running at their pro day?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Not their pro like, not like the school you know
how the school does like they do the protesting they did.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Oh got you?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It was the pro day for the school, not the
pro day. I got your pro day? Yeah. Yeah, So
but he ran a four to four to one. It's
pretty fast, man. I'm just saying, Uncle Q, Uncle Jonas,
we're going to do the draft together. One about We're
going He's got you x fuddy, We're gonna do it well.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Not from me, not definitely, not from me. What do
you mean didn't you run a four to four when
you were playing.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I ran a four to three nine coming out of
the actually electric I was pretty fast. I ran ten
nine hundred meters pretty good.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Then I put all that weight on and then you
slow down a little bit. But you know, I hit heart,
So there you go, LeVar Bolt, I tried.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Man, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But anyway, I think that it is exciting. That is
definitely exciting. Pittsburgh is it'll be interesting. I'm curious as
to how they will position it, Like will it be
on the north Shore, will it be solely positioned maybe
downtown the heart of downtown Pittsburgh. Much like any place, Uh,
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there's a lot to do. There's a casino right next
you know, the north Shore is where the stadiums are.
But you can walk. It's all walking stuff, so you
can walk from the north Shore to into downtown Pittsburgh.
But much like any place, there's touristy places and then
there's Pittsburgh. You got to be very careful and what
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you do because you can find yourself, you know, giving
up your goods in order to be able to make
it back safely to where it is that your origin
of a place of state, place of rest would be lee.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Do you know the location of the Pittsburgh Draft specifically
amongst the Akrocher Stadium.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
It will also be at the Draft Theater. The Draft
experience of fan festival will be at Point State Park.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Point State Park. Yeah, so that's where the three verds.
That's where I want my ashes dumped out. I don't
really want to be put in the ground. I told
my family to dump me out where it all began.
And that's the best of all of it because there's
different sides. You got the Ohio ins. You know, that's
the the Ohio River that goes on out into to it.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Is that the.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Mississippi goes in Ohio. Yeah, it goes in Ohio. But
then you have the Monongahela, which that's like Joe Montana side,
I want to say Joe Nama side. Then you have
the Alleghany side. I'm on the Alleghany side, like Curtis Martin.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
So at the trifactor they say the downtown park. Does
that make sense? Yeah, You're you're at the confluence. You
want your ashes spread there?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Yeah, man, because if you think about it, right, you
know how many people have popped off a jet ski
and taken a dump or urinated in that water.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
That's okay, it's okay, Oh it's it's dirty water. It's
dirty water. But but that's what we come from. Like
I'm I'm I'm an alleghany I'm an alleghany Ohio more
than Mononga Halo. My Mononga Hala ain't really my side,
you know, but alleghany Ohio.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So I don't want people to have to like go
to a cemetery if they ever want to like visit me.
So put me in a place where it'd be interesting.
Like go to Point State Park. It's a nice place.
The fountain might be going. Go right to the ads
where you can see it. Dada, that's where my dad is.
There's some bad ass catfish down there, a couple other
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type of fish that may be down there.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I had my dad.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
My dad is around here swimming like there's a whole
bunch of schools of fish. Maybe maybe even a development
of piranhas, you know what I mean, Like that would
be more my fish, my type of fish, like you know,
one of those predatorial fishes. So anyway, this is kind
of a thought. No, maybe the fifty yard line of
Beaver Stadium, Sure, you.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That sounds a little bit more beef.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
That sounds a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, where's the bar buried in the beef BURI.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I mean that would be a hell of a final
resting place, being dug six feet deep, just dug all
into that deb there.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Beaver at least said he wanted his ashes spread over
the top of a seven eleven.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
There you go. So I don't know if that's if
that's possible, but.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Jesus wouldn't be a disclosed beaver though. I mean, excuse me,
seven eleven. I mean I'm mid seven eleven.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
My bad, my bed. That was a Freudian slit. Yeah,
I don't thought.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Lorraine is not taking credit.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
She's tang. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Beaver Stadium sounds like the spot as opposed to the
Malagali River or whatever it's called.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
All right, yeah, the Mononga Halo bro that too. There's
three of them. There's three of them.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
We're the only one that has three, bruh, the only one,
so you know, and we got a lot of bridges,
whole bunch.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Pittsburgh's underrated, man, I people I hear people say, well
there's nothing to do there, look for I think it's awesome.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Every time I've gone there, I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And the food is fire. If you know where to
go eat food is fire Man de.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Good.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
We'll try and make where the original Permanns is. By
the way you go to the strip, you know hit
Strip District, that's where the meats are too. Smell the
meat from the street. M Let's go to Pittsburgh, man
and DC and not to take any love away from
from the District of Columbia, the d m V. That
would that'll be a ton of fun too, a ton
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of fun.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Get out there. Maybe the Pirates will be playing at home.
PNC parks beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Get the PNC Park or Nationals Park and that's.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I've never been to Nationals Park.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Been to panc though, fire bro fire yeah yeah, not
so much to the pro team they're out Landover, but
p and NAT's Park Southeast.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeh man, that's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
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Speaker 5 (17:47):
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Speaker 3 (18:03):
App Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up a little over fifteen minutes from now here on FSR,
we're going to get the very latest on a punishment
that continues on here in the world of sports. That'll
be yours here on Fsruh. But we're going to do
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something a little bit different here right now. There's a
lot of stories out there, a lot of topics of conversation,
and we decided, you know, why don't we just round
them all up. Let's round them all up, and let's
rattle them off and discuss here on the show.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Up, round up, bring them all together round, Come on, Lee,
come on right round.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
It's time Brady.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Here now grouping it now.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So, uh so we start with a man who jinks it,
a man who jinxed it. Yesterday it was Brady Quinn
who said, you know, the fact that this Belichick story
is really making the rounds tells us that the NFL
players are doing something good because nobody's getting arrested. Otherwise
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that would be sports talk fodder here on the show.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
And then all of a sudden, Devin Bush said.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Hold my zema and decided to go ahead and uh
and get popped and arrested and charged with simple assault
and harassment right after it was mentioned that you know,
arrests are down in the NFL. So that apparently took
place in the Pittsburgh area. Yeah so, uh so that
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is that is unfortunate. It does feel like we are
entering the time of year where this might start to
pick up.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
You got before, he's eating up Fourth of July right
around the corner, memorial the weather.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
When the weather changes, when it gets warm outside, people
fall out.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Well there's that, and then there's my theory. My theory
is that since the end and I'm sure the NFLPA
has never looked at this, but since the NFLPA has
cut down the off season, if there's been a correlation
to more arrests, Meaning if you keep guys busy and
in the facility and around the team, they're probably gonna
be able to stay out of trouble. That's that's my theory.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I was just I was talking to Fran Brown yesterday.
I interviewed for Ran Brown yesterday and he basically said
the same thing, like, Yeah, I'm not giving my guys
any real idle time.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
They don't get too much downtown.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Even if it's not working out, They're doing something because
I'm not giving them the chance to mess up, right.
And that's this pretty interesting theory. I just feel like,
can't get rights is going to do what they can't do,
which is get it right.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Yeah, you can't get it right. If they're that talented
and you could just push it off long enough, there's
a chance then you can get into the season. Like
that's ultimately what it's about.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I mean, it's happened for many, many, many many since
the beginning of time. Many moons, many moons, man many moons.
They can't get rights, find a way until somebody's like,
I'm just not doing it for this can't get right,
or they just do it so wrong that you can't
make it right.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
So there you go, can't get right? Did they say that?
Was that saying was I'm saying it still prevalent when
when you were around?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Or is that an old Zoe term? Okay, I'm so
prevalent you can't get right right?
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Just say I'm just like such an ale. I will
literally call my wife that sometimes, Like there's some times
where I'll be like, just can't get right right. She
at first didn't know what it meant, and it was
like anything anything I tasked her with, it would just
always get messed up. And it's not always her fault.
Like she'd I'd be like, hey, could you order this
or could you do this? And she'd do it and
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then like there'd be a shipping delay or she ordered
the right size, she had the receipt for it, but
they brought the wrong one. I'm like, I'm like, hey,
maybe it's not always on you, but I was like,
something you got some bad juju with you, Like it
just doesn't work out when you have to take control
something okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Next up on our topic round up here on two
pros and a cup of Joe, we turn it over
to a man from Texas. Well, he played ball Texas
and that man is Quinn Yours. Quinn Yours agent had
some interesting comments about his slide in the draft. He
was taken in the seventh round, so Todd Archer of
(22:55):
ESPN broke it all down and spoke with his age.
And this from Ron Slave and Quinn youwers agent, who
said after the draft, the day after, he reached out
to half the league to find out what happened.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Quote they thought he was a third or fourth.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Round pick, but too big of a name to be
a clipboard holder. Slave and said, which I think is
chicken bleep, said one personnel chief. There's only so many
reps to go around for young quarterbacks. You can justify
it at other positions, but if you can't get a
quarterback the amount of work to develop him, then you're
almost wasting a pick. That on the slide of one
(23:36):
Quinn yours And what's so.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
For Shador, Well, we'll see, I guess time will tell, right.
I see that point though, And I think there's a
lot who've looked at, you know, subsequent picks, like in
Day three, and said, what do we really draft from
the guy to be? You know, did a guy slide
that far where we had a much higher on our
draft board? We see value there, okay, but there are
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there is a thought that if you're just adding an
arm to the quarterback room, it's a guy who's not
really going to get much of an opportunity. You know,
what's different than signing a guy who's a free agent
instead of wasting a draft pick. Now, people will combat that,
and they'll say, well, what about Tom Brady or what
about if Shador Sanders as a fifth round pick turns
out to be you know, a Hall of Famer. They
(24:22):
will use those as examples, But how many others are
you really going to count use?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
There's quarterbacks like we just go account Dylan Gabriel all
the way out like, yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
And and he's a third round pick, and we've seen
guys like I mean, Russell Wilson, I believe it was
a third round pick. So but even then, and the
likelihood goes down further and further with each round. For
a lot of what they're saying, there's not as much
time spent on the development. There's not as much of
a financial uh you know, piece that that they have
to own up to that draft pick and and and
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getting them the reps and everything they need. So there's
all sorts of reasons for it. But as for why
he slid, I can relate a little bit to this
because if you look at his numbers from the year
prior two years ago, and really the film from two
years ago overs this year, people are gonna be like, oh, well,
he wasn't as accurate because it was a completion percentage,
or he you know, didn't do this or didn't do that,
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and it's like, well, he was playing banged up and
the throws didn't look like they had as much zip
on them. And what was honestly the starkest contrast was
when Arch went in. When Arch went in and he
was you know, miss some time, you were like, oh,
that guy's got a strong arm, he's more athletic, he's
got a higher upside. I thought that was one of
the more damning moments for Quinn Yewers, and the fact
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that he couldn't really go back to Texas because he
would have been beat out by Arch Manning. So he
had to transfer somewhere else, and that's the running's kind
of already on the wall for you. If that scenario
is playing out in college, then the NFL teams are
going to have a certain thought about you too as
a prospect.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Just to say this, because I think the better question
is how many late round picks period make final rosters?
Right Like, if we're really like, if you want to
get down to the nitty gritty of it, how many
late round picks really make final rosters? I would be
(26:24):
curious as to what that percentage would be. And I mean,
I don't know. You gotta you get a quarterback room.
You're you're generally when you do a draft and you're
bringing guys in, you you're generally only looking for a
handful of positions to be filled. And then it's like, Okay,
(26:48):
who's going to be the backups? And can those backups
participate on special teams? More often than not, there's not
very many slots on a team for somebody to get
a job coming out in the draft or being a
free agent.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
And here are the numbers. Go, so thirty to fifty
percent of six and seventh round draft picks make the
initial fifty three man roster.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Which is a rookie years. That's a really good percentage.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Estimates are around forty percent to fifty for six then
for seventh round picks it's thirty to thirty five percent,
only ten percent, only one in ten for a draft
from the sixth and seventh round. Make it to a
second contract with a team that drafts though, damn.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I just think that when you break it down over
thirty two teams, that thirty percent.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
It ain't good odds.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's why you need to brock nest Monster to sign
that contract. It's got to got to up the prices there.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
But again, you're talking about lightning caught in a bottle.
How many times have you seen lightning caught in a bottle?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Like? Not often?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Would you even attempt that, by the way, would you
hold out a are and try and catch lightning?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
No?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I would catch lightning? No, I would not.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I would just hold a probably a lamp of some
kind and just say, look, there's lightning in the bottle
and turn the light on. Boom done. One of them
old lights though that make it look like it's it's lightning.
I'm with you to catch lightning though.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Next up on our two pros and a cup of
Joe topping around were on Fox Sports Radio. We move
on to a story that just continues to churn and
burn here, and that story is the tush push. We
continue to rattle off the oldies for the goodies here, Lee.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
What the F is this? What do you? What are
you doing? Who is this Conway twitty? You don't like it?
Speaker 6 (28:48):
What?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
I kind of like it? I'm in I'm in a right.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, we'll grab your hats and your belt buckles, I'll because.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Lee, let it rite, Yeah, let me rite at all?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
So, according to Mark Maski of The Washington Post via CBS,
some team owners have prepared a quote rework proposal that
would not only ban players from ever pushing or pulling
a ball carrier, but also prohibit offensive lineman from running
(29:29):
down the field to shove a ball carrier forward at
the end of a play. Well, the proposal is expected
to have a reasonably good chance of being approved. So basically,
a widespread adjustment to the tush push ban that has
been discussed, and those conversations are going to happen at
the next pet.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
You effectively ended. That's how you effectively.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
End the toush push what you just said, and it's right,
by the way, that's correct. If you're talking about players safety,
stop having these guys create great areas. If you're pulling
the guy, if you're pushing the guy, you're putting you're
putting that man and.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Other people in harm's way to be to be injured.
For one. Two when you when your forward.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Progress is stopped, that should effectively end the play. Like
so it's done. Like they get a hold of you,
you're not going forward. Done, Like forget about all this,
Like hitting him in the back, carrying him, pushing them
an extra three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine yards done,
pulling guys done.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
It's right from a defensive perspective.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I don't want to speak for you, Q, but from
my perspective, my lens, it's the correct.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
That's the correct way to approach this.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Instead of saying the touch push effectively end guys being
able to push in and pool guys after they've been
made contact with, especially offensive linemen.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
I'm surprised more guys haven't got injured from it. That's
all I mean. And I've said from the beginning it
doesn't look like a football play. The success rates high
enough now where I usually you kind of stop paying
attention to the play. So for such a crucial or
critical situation in a football game, it's gotten to a
point where it's it lacks the competitiveness that I think
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the NFL is looking for, and it's doing so with
a rule that was an existence that was ripped out
of the of the rule book because they couldn't properly
officiate it, which is the stupidest excuse I've ever heard
for getting rid of that particular call. So that's how
(31:41):
we got here. I really, you know, if they leave
it in okay, so what you know, that's not gonna
I'm not gonna be one of those people who's like,
oh I'm not gonna watch anymore. I can't stand this there.
You know, they're against the Eagles or whatever. I mean,
I just I don't care about it that much to
get that emotional about it. But I do think it'd
be better for the game if it wasn't a part
(32:02):
of it, because it doesn't feel like football. It feels
more like rugby.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, there's a weird play.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I am fascinated though, to see how much this does
affect the Eagles, like does this have all of a
sudden that was their secret power. And next thing you know,
Philly struggling on short yarded situations because they don't think spyard.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Brady was never stopped in short yarded situations. On quarterback keepers,
there's got to be a staty of recalling there just
to recall it.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
There's got to be a Statlee how many what was
the percentages on Tom Brady QB sneaks.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
On it?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Do you really think she's gonna able to look it up?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That fast conversion percentage of ninety point five percent between
twenty one and twenty nineteen at one hundred and twenty
four attempts.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
What do you think Mike Glennon and Davis Mills percentage
was because they got a first down if they.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Cough the tom a stop playing twenty twenty three? Was
it that close? And I've and I've got a different number,
by the way.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Of course you do. Are you down in the accuracy
of Lee's reporting?
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Of course of course I am.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Dang Okay, what do you got? What are you showing.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Ninety point five on third and fourth and one situations?
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Did you grop that?
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Wait? Wait you say, but then his his overall including
all situations when there was a sneak is actually eighty two.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's not as high, that's not as impressive. Yeah, I did,
you're that's that's crazy.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Did you have the eighty two that well?
Speaker 4 (33:41):
No, I hadn't gotten there yet.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yeah, so I don't think simping cituresquely.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Bitch, you know, take that take that'll take my Kentuck
winnings and my own way waiting wings.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
I got my half my money back waiting.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Nothing really drives the point home more than calling somebody
bitch at the end of it, really.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
A bitch as dad.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
He did. He did get you time for the last
two that's right, you talking about the top the next hour?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah, we got it, but another crappy we got it.
That was fun though. I like the little little top.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Of the music made it dope like it wouldn't have
been as fun if the music wasn't in there.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
The music.
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So I'll be honest with you, I didn't know that
this was still going on. Maybe I kind of recall
that there being a discussion about this, But Sharon Moore,
the head coach of Michigan, is going to be suspended
(35:57):
for two games this upcoming season. It's part of a
self imposed punishment for the Connor Stallions advanced scouting scandal.
These suspensions will be for weeks three and four against
Central Michigan and Nebraska. The NCAAA can still punish him further,
with a final resolution expected before the start of the season.
I had no idea this was still going on. Apparently
(36:20):
there were some deleted text messages from Sharon Moore to
Connor Stallions and they've been looking into this. I thought
they did a Netflix documentary on it. Usually that's the
end of the story and we move on with our lives.
That's like, Okay, we're good here, and apparently we're not.
He's gonna be popped for three and four weeks three
(36:40):
and four next.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Season, which is a bit ironic. This isn't one of
those games Central Michigan, yeah, which was one of the
teams that were as like a co conspirator or whatever
and running steins on the field. One sign that would
lead you to think that this is a big concern
for Michigan Florida is I believe the president for Michigan
(37:03):
who's been a big advocate and support of the athletics program,
which is not always the case in college sports. Okay,
I want people to understand that not all university presidents
care about sports. Some of them come to, you know,
become president and all they care about is the world
of academia and all the other things they go along
(37:25):
with that for the faculty and the students and everything
else the school represents. But they don't view athletics as
part of that. I believe it. As a president Ono,
he has been a big advocate for Michigan sports, and
I believe he's a top candidate for the University of
Florida president's job. If I'm not mistaken, Lee, you can
back me up on that. But the timing seems a
(37:48):
bit odd, does it not. You're leaving the University of
Michigan to go to Florida, and maybe some people would say, well,
that's an upgrade, or that's hey, you're going to Gainsville,
you live in warmer weather. Doesn't feel like Florida's got
as much dough as Michigan does. If you're looking at
from that standpoint.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
I don't think it's an upgrade.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Or even the prestige of the institution. I think most
people say Michigan's a better school one now Florida's has
had its moments in athletics, and maybe that's part of it.
But there's a thought that part of the reason for
wanting to leave would be to go there because of
what's coming as sanctions or suspensions from the NCAA like
(38:30):
that harsh where you leave potentially. But here's the other
thing is, I don't even know how much power of
the NCAA is going to have based on what the
future holds for football. If that's really your biggest concern.
We have no idea who's going to be in power
five years from now. Maybe the NCAA has no power,
maybe it's another entity. Who knows.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
And then how does that work? You know, if you're
cheating under this new world order? How does that even work?
Speaker 6 (38:58):
You know, find suspensions, those sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And it's going to be the conference that governs it
versus it being n c.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
A a conference or or the league.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Mm hmm, I mean do you get to pick it?
I mean, why weeks three and four. Did they get
to pick?
Speaker 6 (39:16):
That's odd because it's self one, because it's self imposed.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
So are they leaving the first two weeks just in
case the NCAA steps in and they'll make it four games?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Like, you guys can take the first two. We'll just
make this a four game suspension. Like, I'm just like what.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Your guests, But Central Michigan and Nebraska, Yeah, yeah, I
mean obviously don't think much of Nebraska. I mean they better,
they better If I'm a corn Huskers fan, I'm pretty
ticked off about that. I've got the red ass right
now when I want to when I play Michigan
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Okay, doesn't this sound like a lee? You're a degenerate
theme park guy. Doesn't this sound like something you would
hear on the way into a riot at Universal, like.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Maybe the Mummy. I thought it was the Mummy when
I first heard it, to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Cause you immediately thought they were in Egypt a radio
or something.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, sure, all right. It feels offensive, but it
kind of does, is what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I mean, it's a great sunsariane't you want to say
it sounds offensive, but you took him down the line.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It didn't have to be the Mummy. Gonna pick something else,
lordns of Arabia. Uh it is uh, Two Pros and
a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you, and as we start
our two of the program, we did want to just
give a shout out here, you know, a special shout
out to one LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Var let's go for you.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Next two NFL drafts have your name written all over them.
The draft is gonna be in Pittsburgh. This obviously coming
off the successful run in Greenville before a couple.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Of weeks ago. Let's go, you gotta go.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
This is uh, this is gonna be in Pittsburgh this
next year, and then after that, as announced yesterday, it'll
be Adelphia, d C. And they're expecting I think I
saw the number was a million people. They're expecting in
d C. Is where they're going to be doing the draft.
And the location of this. I've not been to d C,
(02:14):
so LeVar, you tell me where this is. It'll be
on the National Mall between the US Capital and the
Washington Monument.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
So it's a big space.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's like where most historical gatherings of multitudes of people,
that's where that's taking place.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
So I believe is that where.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't want to misspeak for no, no, no, no, no,
I don't want to. The National Mall is is where
most historical gatherings take place, is what I'll say.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, And I want to, man, I want.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
To say, that's like where is that where the inauguration
takes place? Like like I feel like I don't know,
I feel like there's something that because I know within
the mall it is connected to like the Lincoln Memorial
stuff like that, the the Smithsonians. Yeah, the wall is
(03:24):
there as well, like everything's in that area, So the
Vietnam Wall, the Veterans Wall is there.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I mean you can go ahead say it like that's
where Martin Luther King delivered IVY dream.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, no, no, that's not well. Yes, that, like I said,
most historical stuff. But I wanted to say, I feel
like that's where the inauguration takes place. But I don't
want to misspeak on and I wasn't looking it up,
so I was just off the top of my ear
my head.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
But Fraddy, why would you assume that that's where he
was going?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Yeah, that is what he did, like target this specific thing,
which I thought, you know, it would.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Be well identify that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I felt like those are kind of Givens like the
million Man March, the you know Martin Luther King gave us.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I have a dream speech there.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
But it's also where the National Cherry Blossom.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Festival is festival.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yeah, it's also the National Mall of pickle Ball.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Really, I know that I haven't been there. I haven't
been there, so that's something new. I haven't that's something new,
oh though, But it's a dope place. And it's right
down town, like it's on constitution, off of constitution, like
it's it's right there.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
So yeah, we gotta go cherry blossoms. Huh.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I tell you about the cherry blossoms every year and
you always give me gruff.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Gruff.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
What do you mean you said you wanted to go
to Japan on a whim to see cherry Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, Washington, d C.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
And Japan.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
It sounds like someone went to Japan on a whim
on you, and that's why you're trying to get paid back.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
A hard shot to the body by Quinn inside Baseball.
But actually, but accurate, what now, I can't go to Japan.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
You in Japan would be a disaster. A beautiful disaster,
but a disaster.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I mean, there's a lot of places that would be
a disaster.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
If you can't get through New Orleans without face planning.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, Lee just thought a whim was like, yeah, I
think I'm gonna go to maybe Tokyo. Take some time
and go to Tokyo. What are you thinking about that?
Then he it was like within a month, Yeah, yeah,
cherry blossoms are out.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah, what great prices world to see m No, but
I mean it was good timing.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Somebody tweet Lee a picture of cherry blossoms and save
him five grand if you could.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Well, or go to d C.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
That's the other place you can go to see him.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
The inauguration, This ceremony takes place in I guess, different
places at different times, but has been I guess since
nineteen eighty one inauguration of Ronald Reagan. The ceremony has
been held at the West front of the United States
Capital to your head right now, I'm reading it facing
(06:18):
the National Mall with its iconic Washington Monument and distant
Leacoln Memorial.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
So yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I mean, you know, I was d C four minute.
I always love d C, but I I was d
C four minute. You know, you pulled up to what
then FedEx Field. That was three stories of pissed off
looking at you pulling in to Yeah to FedEx Field. Baby,
(06:46):
come into my house. Welcome to my house.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, stepped to the five six, you step into the
trainer's room. Thanks Serengetti out here.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
It is the Serengetti.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Oh the way I'm looking up Cherry awesome is right now.
It's basically a high biscus with no balls. Dang, what
a waste all this overhype?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
So are we doing?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Are we going to Pittsburgh and DC for this? We
got to get out there, man, it is That is
a double double for me, for real.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Because if the NFL is putting on these big events
and they're having the success that they're gonna have, and
I know people are saying, well, Chador is the one
who carried the draft. I get it, and you know
arch Manning will be in the draft this next year.
But the fact that you're getting the NFL putting so
much into these things being shopped around and now everybody
raises their hand and wants it because they're like, we
(07:37):
can't get a Super Bowl? Can we at least get
a draft? I would feel like the media coverage on
these are probably going to grow. Has the media coverage
grown on the combine. It feels like it's growing on
the combine as well too. It's evolved, it's one involved.
It's definitely a bigger production by the year. But it's
interesting because this year, I don't know, Q, you tell me,
(07:58):
but I think this year was the largest amount of
non just blatant non participants, like.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No reason, no rhyme or reason, just I'm not participating
in the draft or a combine. No, no, the combine.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yeah, So it's becoming more common now for guys. And
there's two reasons for it. There's always injuries, so that's
like the other reason. Third, I guess the other two
are the season now extends so long that there's really
not adequate time for the players to rest, recover, train,
and prepare for the combine. And I almost wouldn't hate
(08:38):
if they adjusted it back a week or two now
because of the college football playoff schedule. I mean, think
about it. We expanded out of twelve teams, Imagine if
you go to sixteen, Imagine if you go an even
larger than that, there is a thought that you're adding
on an additional week maybe and so that's again gonna
limit a lot of your top prospects, which if you've
(09:00):
got the top twelve, let's say it goes to sixteen teams.
There's a lot of players coming from those top prospects
that you want to see at the combine that are
gonna drive ratings, so maybe makes sense to give them
a little bit more room before having such an event.
But that's one of the reasons the season and length.
And then the last one is there's just guys who
(09:20):
are like, I don't want to be evaluated and have
my potential stock drop for running a forty when I'm
one not prepared, but too it doesn't really have any
application to the game of football. So I'm gonna wait
to do it my pro day, or I'll wait to
do it in a private workout, or I'll never do it.
There's some prospects who never did it, Yeah, and they're
(09:43):
perfectly healthy. So there also is that wave of players
who are saying, I'm not gonna go participate in your combine,
meaning I'll do the medical, do the interviews, I'll do
everything else I need to do, but I'm gonna wait
for my pro day, and that my pro day I'll
choose what I want to do and if you want
to see more, you can have me for a private workout,
which I don't have an issue with because when it
(10:05):
comes down to it, the combine has now become and
made for TV event. It's not made for players trying
to perform at their best anymore. It's just not the
way the schedule sets up for the players is not
in their best interest. It's all about the NFL and
selling the TV media rights for it.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Mad Man ran a four to four to one in
their their uh, their pro day, by the way, that's
pretty exciting.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Speaking of forties electric too.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Why was he running at their pro day?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Not their pro like, not like the school you know
how the school does like they do the protesting they did.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Oh got you?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It was the pro day for the school, not the
pro day. I got your pro day? Yeah. Yeah, So
but he ran a four to four to one. It's
pretty fast, man. I'm just saying, Uncle Q, Uncle Jonas,
we're going to do the draft together. One about We're
going He's got you x fuddy, We're gonna do it well.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Not from me, not definitely, not from me. What do
you mean didn't you run a four to four when
you were playing.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I ran a four to three nine coming out of
the actually electric I was pretty fast. I ran ten
nine hundred meters pretty good.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Then I put all that weight on and then you
slow down a little bit. But you know, I hit heart,
So there you go, LeVar Bolt, I tried.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Man, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But anyway, I think that it is exciting. That is
definitely exciting. Pittsburgh is it'll be interesting. I'm curious as
to how they will position it, Like will it be
on the north Shore, will it be solely positioned maybe
downtown the heart of downtown Pittsburgh. Much like any place, Uh,
(11:59):
there's a lot to do. There's a casino right next
you know, the north Shore is where the stadiums are.
But you can walk. It's all walking stuff, so you
can walk from the north Shore to into downtown Pittsburgh.
But much like any place, there's touristy places and then
there's Pittsburgh. You got to be very careful and what
(12:24):
you do because you can find yourself, you know, giving
up your goods in order to be able to make
it back safely to where it is that your origin
of a place of state, place of rest would be lee.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Do you know the location of the Pittsburgh Draft specifically
amongst the Akrocher Stadium.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
It will also be at the Draft Theater. The Draft
experience of fan festival will be at Point State Park.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Point State Park. Yeah, so that's where the three verds.
That's where I want my ashes dumped out. I don't
really want to be put in the ground. I told
my family to dump me out where it all began.
And that's the best of all of it because there's
different sides. You got the Ohio ins. You know, that's
the the Ohio River that goes on out into to it.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Is that the.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Mississippi goes in Ohio. Yeah, it goes in Ohio. But
then you have the Monongahela, which that's like Joe Montana side,
I want to say Joe Nama side. Then you have
the Alleghany side. I'm on the Alleghany side, like Curtis Martin.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
So at the trifactor they say the downtown park. Does
that make sense? Yeah, You're you're at the confluence. You
want your ashes spread there?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Yeah, man, because if you think about it, right, you
know how many people have popped off a jet ski
and taken a dump or urinated in that water.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
That's okay, it's okay, Oh it's it's dirty water. It's
dirty water. But but that's what we come from. Like
I'm I'm I'm an alleghany I'm an alleghany Ohio more
than Mononga Halo. My Mononga Hala ain't really my side,
you know, but alleghany Ohio.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So I don't want people to have to like go
to a cemetery if they ever want to like visit me.
So put me in a place where it'd be interesting.
Like go to Point State Park. It's a nice place.
The fountain might be going. Go right to the ads
where you can see it. Dada, that's where my dad is.
There's some bad ass catfish down there, a couple other
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type of fish that may be down there.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I had my dad.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
My dad is around here swimming like there's a whole
bunch of schools of fish. Maybe maybe even a development
of piranhas, you know what I mean, Like that would
be more my fish, my type of fish, like you know,
one of those predatorial fishes. So anyway, this is kind
of a thought. No, maybe the fifty yard line of
Beaver Stadium, Sure, you.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That sounds a little bit more beef.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
That sounds a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, where's the bar buried in the beef BURI.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I mean that would be a hell of a final
resting place, being dug six feet deep, just dug all
into that deb there.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Beaver at least said he wanted his ashes spread over
the top of a seven eleven.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
There you go. So I don't know if that's if
that's possible, but.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Jesus wouldn't be a disclosed beaver though. I mean, excuse me,
seven eleven. I mean I'm mid seven eleven.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
My bad, my bed. That was a Freudian slit. Yeah,
I don't thought.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Lorraine is not taking credit.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
She's tang. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Beaver Stadium sounds like the spot as opposed to the
Malagali River or whatever it's called.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
All right, yeah, the Mononga Halo bro that too. There's
three of them. There's three of them.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
We're the only one that has three, bruh, the only one,
so you know, and we got a lot of bridges,
whole bunch.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Pittsburgh's underrated, man, I people I hear people say, well
there's nothing to do there, look for I think it's awesome.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Every time I've gone there, I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And the food is fire. If you know where to
go eat food is fire Man de.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Good.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
We'll try and make where the original Permanns is. By
the way you go to the strip, you know hit
Strip District, that's where the meats are too. Smell the
meat from the street. M Let's go to Pittsburgh, man
and DC and not to take any love away from
from the District of Columbia, the d m V. That
would that'll be a ton of fun too, a ton
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of fun.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Get out there. Maybe the Pirates will be playing at home.
PNC parks beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Get the PNC Park or Nationals Park and that's.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I've never been to Nationals Park.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Been to panc though, fire bro fire yeah yeah, not
so much to the pro team they're out Landover, but
p and NAT's Park Southeast.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeh man, that's good stuff.
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Speaker 5 (17:47):
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Speaker 2 (17:49):
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Speaker 3 (18:03):
App Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up a little over fifteen minutes from now here on FSR,
we're going to get the very latest on a punishment
that continues on here in the world of sports. That'll
be yours here on Fsruh. But we're going to do
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something a little bit different here right now. There's a
lot of stories out there, a lot of topics of conversation,
and we decided, you know, why don't we just round
them all up. Let's round them all up, and let's
rattle them off and discuss here on the show.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Up, round up, bring them all together round, Come on, Lee,
come on right round.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
It's time Brady.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Here now grouping it now.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So, uh so we start with a man who jinks it,
a man who jinxed it. Yesterday it was Brady Quinn
who said, you know, the fact that this Belichick story
is really making the rounds tells us that the NFL
players are doing something good because nobody's getting arrested. Otherwise
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that would be sports talk fodder here on the show.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
And then all of a sudden, Devin Bush said.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Hold my zema and decided to go ahead and uh
and get popped and arrested and charged with simple assault
and harassment right after it was mentioned that you know,
arrests are down in the NFL. So that apparently took
place in the Pittsburgh area. Yeah so, uh so that
(19:57):
is that is unfortunate. It does feel like we are
entering the time of year where this might start to
pick up.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
You got before, he's eating up Fourth of July right
around the corner, memorial the weather.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
When the weather changes, when it gets warm outside, people
fall out.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Well there's that, and then there's my theory. My theory
is that since the end and I'm sure the NFLPA
has never looked at this, but since the NFLPA has
cut down the off season, if there's been a correlation
to more arrests, Meaning if you keep guys busy and
in the facility and around the team, they're probably gonna
be able to stay out of trouble. That's that's my theory.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I was just I was talking to Fran Brown yesterday.
I interviewed for Ran Brown yesterday and he basically said
the same thing, like, Yeah, I'm not giving my guys
any real idle time.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
They don't get too much downtown.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Even if it's not working out, They're doing something because
I'm not giving them the chance to mess up, right.
And that's this pretty interesting theory. I just feel like,
can't get rights is going to do what they can't do,
which is get it right.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Yeah, you can't get it right. If they're that talented
and you could just push it off long enough, there's
a chance then you can get into the season. Like
that's ultimately what it's about.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I mean, it's happened for many, many, many many since
the beginning of time. Many moons, many moons, man many moons.
They can't get rights, find a way until somebody's like,
I'm just not doing it for this can't get right,
or they just do it so wrong that you can't
make it right.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
So there you go, can't get right? Did they say that?
Was that saying was I'm saying it still prevalent when
when you were around?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Or is that an old Zoe term? Okay, I'm so
prevalent you can't get right right?
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Just say I'm just like such an ale. I will
literally call my wife that sometimes, Like there's some times
where I'll be like, just can't get right right. She
at first didn't know what it meant, and it was
like anything anything I tasked her with, it would just
always get messed up. And it's not always her fault.
Like she'd I'd be like, hey, could you order this
or could you do this? And she'd do it and
(22:16):
then like there'd be a shipping delay or she ordered
the right size, she had the receipt for it, but
they brought the wrong one. I'm like, I'm like, hey,
maybe it's not always on you, but I was like,
something you got some bad juju with you, Like it
just doesn't work out when you have to take control
something okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Next up on our topic round up here on two
pros and a cup of Joe, we turn it over
to a man from Texas. Well, he played ball Texas
and that man is Quinn Yours. Quinn Yours agent had
some interesting comments about his slide in the draft. He
was taken in the seventh round, so Todd Archer of
(22:55):
ESPN broke it all down and spoke with his age.
And this from Ron Slave and Quinn youwers agent, who
said after the draft, the day after, he reached out
to half the league to find out what happened.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Quote they thought he was a third or fourth.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Round pick, but too big of a name to be
a clipboard holder. Slave and said, which I think is
chicken bleep, said one personnel chief. There's only so many
reps to go around for young quarterbacks. You can justify
it at other positions, but if you can't get a
quarterback the amount of work to develop him, then you're
almost wasting a pick. That on the slide of one
(23:36):
Quinn yours And what's so.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
For Shador, Well, we'll see, I guess time will tell, right.
I see that point though, And I think there's a
lot who've looked at, you know, subsequent picks, like in
Day three, and said, what do we really draft from
the guy to be? You know, did a guy slide
that far where we had a much higher on our
draft board? We see value there, okay, but there are
(24:00):
there is a thought that if you're just adding an
arm to the quarterback room, it's a guy who's not
really going to get much of an opportunity. You know,
what's different than signing a guy who's a free agent
instead of wasting a draft pick. Now, people will combat that,
and they'll say, well, what about Tom Brady or what
about if Shador Sanders as a fifth round pick turns
out to be you know, a Hall of Famer. They
(24:22):
will use those as examples, But how many others are
you really going to count use?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
There's quarterbacks like we just go account Dylan Gabriel all
the way out like, yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
And and he's a third round pick, and we've seen
guys like I mean, Russell Wilson, I believe it was
a third round pick. So but even then, and the
likelihood goes down further and further with each round. For
a lot of what they're saying, there's not as much
time spent on the development. There's not as much of
a financial uh you know, piece that that they have
to own up to that draft pick and and and
(24:56):
getting them the reps and everything they need. So there's
all sorts of reasons for it. But as for why
he slid, I can relate a little bit to this
because if you look at his numbers from the year
prior two years ago, and really the film from two
years ago overs this year, people are gonna be like, oh, well,
he wasn't as accurate because it was a completion percentage,
or he you know, didn't do this or didn't do that,
(25:17):
and it's like, well, he was playing banged up and
the throws didn't look like they had as much zip
on them. And what was honestly the starkest contrast was
when Arch went in. When Arch went in and he
was you know, miss some time, you were like, oh,
that guy's got a strong arm, he's more athletic, he's
got a higher upside. I thought that was one of
the more damning moments for Quinn Yewers, and the fact
(25:39):
that he couldn't really go back to Texas because he
would have been beat out by Arch Manning. So he
had to transfer somewhere else, and that's the running's kind
of already on the wall for you. If that scenario
is playing out in college, then the NFL teams are
going to have a certain thought about you too as
a prospect.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Just to say this, because I think the better question
is how many late round picks period make final rosters?
Right Like, if we're really like, if you want to
get down to the nitty gritty of it, how many
late round picks really make final rosters? I would be
(26:24):
curious as to what that percentage would be. And I mean,
I don't know. You gotta you get a quarterback room.
You're you're generally when you do a draft and you're
bringing guys in, you you're generally only looking for a
handful of positions to be filled. And then it's like, Okay,
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who's going to be the backups? And can those backups
participate on special teams? More often than not, there's not
very many slots on a team for somebody to get
a job coming out in the draft or being a
free agent.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
And here are the numbers. Go, so thirty to fifty
percent of six and seventh round draft picks make the
initial fifty three man roster.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Which is a rookie years. That's a really good percentage.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Estimates are around forty percent to fifty for six then
for seventh round picks it's thirty to thirty five percent,
only ten percent, only one in ten for a draft
from the sixth and seventh round. Make it to a
second contract with a team that drafts though, damn.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I just think that when you break it down over
thirty two teams, that thirty percent.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
It ain't good odds.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's why you need to brock nest Monster to sign
that contract. It's got to got to up the prices there.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
But again, you're talking about lightning caught in a bottle.
How many times have you seen lightning caught in a bottle?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Like? Not often?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Would you even attempt that, by the way, would you
hold out a are and try and catch lightning?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
No?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I would catch lightning? No, I would not.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I would just hold a probably a lamp of some
kind and just say, look, there's lightning in the bottle
and turn the light on. Boom done. One of them
old lights though that make it look like it's it's lightning.
I'm with you to catch lightning though.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Next up on our two pros and a cup of
Joe topping around were on Fox Sports Radio. We move
on to a story that just continues to churn and
burn here, and that story is the tush push. We
continue to rattle off the oldies for the goodies here, Lee.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
What the F is this? What do you? What are
you doing? Who is this Conway twitty? You don't like it?
Speaker 6 (28:48):
What?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
I kind of like it? I'm in I'm in a right.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, we'll grab your hats and your belt buckles, I'll because.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Lee, let it rite, Yeah, let me rite at all?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
So, according to Mark Maski of The Washington Post via CBS,
some team owners have prepared a quote rework proposal that
would not only ban players from ever pushing or pulling
a ball carrier, but also prohibit offensive lineman from running
(29:29):
down the field to shove a ball carrier forward at
the end of a play. Well, the proposal is expected
to have a reasonably good chance of being approved. So basically,
a widespread adjustment to the tush push ban that has
been discussed, and those conversations are going to happen at
the next pet.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
You effectively ended. That's how you effectively.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
End the toush push what you just said, and it's right,
by the way, that's correct. If you're talking about players safety,
stop having these guys create great areas. If you're pulling
the guy, if you're pushing the guy, you're putting you're
putting that man and.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Other people in harm's way to be to be injured.
For one. Two when you when your forward.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Progress is stopped, that should effectively end the play. Like
so it's done. Like they get a hold of you,
you're not going forward. Done, Like forget about all this,
Like hitting him in the back, carrying him, pushing them
an extra three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine yards done,
pulling guys done.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
It's right from a defensive perspective.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I don't want to speak for you, Q, but from
my perspective, my lens, it's the correct.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
That's the correct way to approach this.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Instead of saying the touch push effectively end guys being
able to push in and pool guys after they've been
made contact with, especially offensive linemen.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
I'm surprised more guys haven't got injured from it. That's
all I mean. And I've said from the beginning it
doesn't look like a football play. The success rates high
enough now where I usually you kind of stop paying
attention to the play. So for such a crucial or
critical situation in a football game, it's gotten to a
point where it's it lacks the competitiveness that I think
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the NFL is looking for, and it's doing so with
a rule that was an existence that was ripped out
of the of the rule book because they couldn't properly
officiate it, which is the stupidest excuse I've ever heard
for getting rid of that particular call. So that's how
(31:41):
we got here. I really, you know, if they leave
it in okay, so what you know, that's not gonna
I'm not gonna be one of those people who's like,
oh I'm not gonna watch anymore. I can't stand this there.
You know, they're against the Eagles or whatever. I mean,
I just I don't care about it that much to
get that emotional about it. But I do think it'd
be better for the game if it wasn't a part
(32:02):
of it, because it doesn't feel like football. It feels
more like rugby.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, there's a weird play.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I am fascinated though, to see how much this does
affect the Eagles, like does this have all of a
sudden that was their secret power. And next thing you know,
Philly struggling on short yarded situations because they don't think spyard.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Brady was never stopped in short yarded situations. On quarterback keepers,
there's got to be a staty of recalling there just
to recall it.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
There's got to be a Statlee how many what was
the percentages on Tom Brady QB sneaks.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
On it?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Do you really think she's gonna able to look it up?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That fast conversion percentage of ninety point five percent between
twenty one and twenty nineteen at one hundred and twenty
four attempts.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
What do you think Mike Glennon and Davis Mills percentage
was because they got a first down if they.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Cough the tom a stop playing twenty twenty three? Was
it that close? And I've and I've got a different number,
by the way.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Of course you do. Are you down in the accuracy
of Lee's reporting?
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Of course of course I am.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Dang Okay, what do you got? What are you showing.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Ninety point five on third and fourth and one situations?
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Did you grop that?
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Wait? Wait you say, but then his his overall including
all situations when there was a sneak is actually eighty two.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's not as high, that's not as impressive. Yeah, I did,
you're that's that's crazy.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Did you have the eighty two that well?
Speaker 4 (33:41):
No, I hadn't gotten there yet.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yeah, so I don't think simping cituresquely.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Bitch, you know, take that take that'll take my Kentuck
winnings and my own way waiting wings.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
I got my half my money back waiting.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Nothing really drives the point home more than calling somebody
bitch at the end of it, really.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
A bitch as dad.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
He did. He did get you time for the last
two that's right, you talking about the top the next hour?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah, we got it, but another crappy we got it.
That was fun though. I like the little little top.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Of the music made it dope like it wouldn't have
been as fun if the music wasn't in there.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
The music.
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So I'll be honest with you, I didn't know that
this was still going on. Maybe I kind of recall
that there being a discussion about this, But Sharon Moore,
the head coach of Michigan, is going to be suspended
(35:57):
for two games this upcoming season. It's part of a
self imposed punishment for the Connor Stallions advanced scouting scandal.
These suspensions will be for weeks three and four against
Central Michigan and Nebraska. The NCAAA can still punish him further,
with a final resolution expected before the start of the season.
I had no idea this was still going on. Apparently
(36:20):
there were some deleted text messages from Sharon Moore to
Connor Stallions and they've been looking into this. I thought
they did a Netflix documentary on it. Usually that's the
end of the story and we move on with our lives.
That's like, Okay, we're good here, and apparently we're not.
He's gonna be popped for three and four weeks three
(36:40):
and four next.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Season, which is a bit ironic. This isn't one of
those games Central Michigan, yeah, which was one of the
teams that were as like a co conspirator or whatever
and running steins on the field. One sign that would
lead you to think that this is a big concern
for Michigan Florida is I believe the president for Michigan
(37:03):
who's been a big advocate and support of the athletics program,
which is not always the case in college sports. Okay,
I want people to understand that not all university presidents
care about sports. Some of them come to, you know,
become president and all they care about is the world
of academia and all the other things they go along
(37:25):
with that for the faculty and the students and everything
else the school represents. But they don't view athletics as
part of that. I believe it. As a president Ono,
he has been a big advocate for Michigan sports, and
I believe he's a top candidate for the University of
Florida president's job. If I'm not mistaken, Lee, you can
back me up on that. But the timing seems a
(37:48):
bit odd, does it not. You're leaving the University of
Michigan to go to Florida, and maybe some people would say, well,
that's an upgrade, or that's hey, you're going to Gainsville,
you live in warmer weather. Doesn't feel like Florida's got
as much dough as Michigan does. If you're looking at
from that standpoint.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
I don't think it's an upgrade.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Or even the prestige of the institution. I think most
people say Michigan's a better school one now Florida's has
had its moments in athletics, and maybe that's part of it.
But there's a thought that part of the reason for
wanting to leave would be to go there because of
what's coming as sanctions or suspensions from the NCAA like
(38:30):
that harsh where you leave potentially. But here's the other
thing is, I don't even know how much power of
the NCAA is going to have based on what the
future holds for football. If that's really your biggest concern.
We have no idea who's going to be in power
five years from now. Maybe the NCAA has no power,
maybe it's another entity. Who knows.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
And then how does that work? You know, if you're
cheating under this new world order? How does that even work?
Speaker 6 (38:58):
You know, find suspensions, those sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And it's going to be the conference that governs it
versus it being n c.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
A a conference or or the league.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Mm hmm, I mean do you get to pick it?
I mean, why weeks three and four. Did they get
to pick?
Speaker 6 (39:16):
That's odd because it's self one, because it's self imposed.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
So are they leaving the first two weeks just in
case the NCAA steps in and they'll make it four games?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Like, you guys can take the first two. We'll just
make this a four game suspension. Like, I'm just like what.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Your guests, But Central Michigan and Nebraska, Yeah, yeah, I
mean obviously don't think much of Nebraska. I mean they better,
they better If I'm a corn Huskers fan, I'm pretty
ticked off about that. I've got the red ass right
now when I want to when I play Michigan
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