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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio show. We've got major, major in house drama
that we are dealing with here on the show. Cannot
wait for Brady Quinn to get his uh, get his
ears on this one. It is LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonah snocks with you here on this Football Friday here
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on events or so can we do you want to
explain what the the argument is about here?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I mean, obviously Lorena is clearly a what Disneyland?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I mean? Can I finish? Can I finish?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
She's obviously a Disneyland enthusiast and frequent visitor of Disneyland.
So we have a discussion about you asked, was their
liquor or you know, beers available in Disneyland?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
You ask which restaurants in Disney that serve alcohol?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Did you ask what? You didn't ask which restaurant? I said,
do they serve it? I said, do they serve I asked,
do they serve alcohol?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Because I heard it that way, because I think the
place sucks personally, it's not entertaining.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Even my son doesn't like it. I said, of course
they do.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And then I said, there's a restaurant that's a Tiana's
Restaurant from the What's the Frog? The Prince in the
Frog movie? The Princess in the Frog movie? And sorry,
it's there right, Oh, he's up in there, like he's
up in there. He's asked kissing like degree, yeah, to
the temph degree.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
He's so basically to get the pronouns right with lee
when it comes to the.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Frog and and so.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And so Lorena sitting here and she's she's the pro,
which I did not call that into question all that.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I started boasting off the restaurants that do serve alcohol.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So she says, Tiana's Da Da serves alcohol serv and
I said, that's inaccurate. I I remember being at a
Tiana's restaurant and I had a beer. I had several beers,
in fact, but I was only allowed believed to have
one or two, like you could only have two bears.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
So I recall this.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
I have a question. Was this while the Tiana Right
had opened? After the Tiana Right? I don't give a
damn or no about that. Well, because the French Quarter
has been opened for decades.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Right, are y'all listening to what I'm saying? Go for it.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I went to a Tiana themed restaurant and got bears
while I was eating New Orleans style food. Tell me
how old the restaurant is? That lee, you want to
jump on on on the microphone and say you're wrong
there's Pirates of the Caribbean in the French Quarter and no, no, no,
this is that.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Tell me how old are the How old is that
restaurant that I ate at?
Speaker 5 (03:47):
That twenty sixteen is when Tiana's Palace opened?
Speaker 7 (03:51):
No, no, tell me tell me t when that New
Orleans style restaurant that is a Tiana based theme base
restaurant opened.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
If this is.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Twenty twenty three year and a half, go I.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Did not eat at Tea Palace. You're trying to move
the gold bo.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
But you were saying, you were saying that they serve
alcohol at and they indeed do not.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Said a Tiana thing.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
But that's wrong, so you hate you use your extra
he he ate at River bel Terrace and River bell
Terrists does serve beer and alcohol and it is Near's palace.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Can I be the voice of reasons? It's a thing place.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Right, It's not a Tiana tame place, No.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Guys, can I be the voice of reason? I can't
bring it?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (04:39):
Uh no, you're not killing me. You're killing anyone who
tuned into Fox Sports Radio to listen to sports. No
one gives a flying rip. No one gives a flying
rip about this conversation. Okay, no one cares. People can
so let's move on. Let's get back to sports because
no one cares abo conversation.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
You guys got to settle the batman. I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You money. You get so caught up sometimes, man, I'm
caught up. Like it matters. It matters. Disney matters, Believe me,
it matters.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
And Disney it is the trust me. If this was
about Disney, we can actually I can make that segue
and what we're supposed to be talking about right now,
But this isn't about Disney. This is about you. You
trying to argue whether or not you drank it some
spot or not versus Lorena's correct exactly, So no one cares.
Let's move on. I love God, what's my care?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And if I want to talk about it, I'm probably
going to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And that's why we all.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Then respond people on social or start you know, oh hey,
I know you'll find time to do that too.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I do. I certainly do. I make time now. I
make time. That's why our show grows. I make time.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
Not as much time as Paul Pierce did, though, which
was an all time legendary move on Paul Pierce.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Great walk point is that's what we're going. Is that
where we're going, so we can.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Know it's not but we can talk about that all.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I mean. I don't want Q's head to pop up.
I asked.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I asked LeVar if he thought Paul actually walked the
entire way, and I kind of agree.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I think he think he did actually, really, I.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Think I think it bothered him so bad that they
lost and that he lost the bet that he.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
Didn't want it was. Was it twenty miles?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
He walked, That's what he said. He said it took
him hours. He said it took him twenty listen when
he started to eat hours. When he started walking, it
was dark outside. Yeah, I will say that when he
started it was dark outside. And and by the time
the video posted of him getting to the fox lot,
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I mean it was the time.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
It matched and he was wearing a robe. The entire
he did wear a robe. It was a little toasty.
He did have shoes on, though he did go.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Barefoot, he did have shoes on, which I'm not gonna
hold that against him.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You walked twenty miles. I mean, you know, I get.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
There had to been some like dicey parts you're walking through.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah. I don't know, but he's from here, isn't he.
I mean I don't know that that matters, but he
is from here.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He's from He's from yeah, Okay, grew up at Englewood.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I think so.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
I thought. Actually, the h the wheelchair was a nice touch, like,
given given his past and everything else, the wheelchair into
the studio is a nice touch with a whole that.
It was good, you know, what. I'll give them credit
because that felt like the closest thing to a T
N T skit with the guys as anything else I've
seen on that show. So that was fun to watch.
(07:37):
That was that was great.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
It was fun.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Kevin Garnett pulled up next to It's like, hey, mankle up?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Where all right? So?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Uh, the NFL is going back to Brazil. They're going
to do that again.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Is there a Disney in Brazil? I don't know. Probably
there's Disney ever there There you go? So sorry, I.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
Mean, like the service I don't know about.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So the NFL, the it will be the the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It really didn't even matter. Park Television. Yeah, I say,
go ahead. But I was being an angry black man.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Right, I mean, listen, you know that we're sending a
suspension of that happens.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
No more technicals for me.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
So according to Andrew Marshon of the this reporting of
The Athletic, that YouTube is now the heavy favorite to
secure the rights to the game. Last year, I believe
it was Peacock who had the first game of the
year in Brazil between the Packers and the Eagles. This year,
it's going to be looking like YouTube will get the
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get the opportunity to have that game, and we are
often running to the races to the app world, uh
and the streaming world of the NFL nowadays.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
I think about it. We got Amazon Netflix already involved.
Now I get YouTube and that's a wrap. I mean,
that's essentially looking into the future. If you're an NFL
fan and you were used to just turning on the TV,
had your cable hole setup, and you'd be tuning in
to Fox, CBS, NBC, that's usually what you would be viewing.
(09:21):
I think you're starting to see Amazon, Netflix and YouTube
present themselves as that next wave of how viewing is
going to be done. You know, CBS or Paramount has sold,
so that's already its separate deal. When you say Peacock,
really you're saying NBC. So NBC used to be the
network that really had the rights, even though if they
wanted to stream it, it's still under their purview. But
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this is where it's all moving, and it's going to
be fascinating to see what happens with the TV deal
when the owners have the opportunity to opt out if
they will, and to see what those numbers look like
and how that's going to impact the current networks that
hold the rights. And look, this is coming from a
Fox employee, So I'm just I'm telling you, like, this
is fascinating to see how much the NFL is letting
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in these streaming services. Who this is? I mean, first off,
think about the fact that they're giving YouTube this opportunity
where you've got arguably you'd say, one of your biggest
games of the year. Right, it's an international game. Who's
the matchup? Again?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
It's Philly and who Philly in Green Bay was last year?
It is the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Chargers and it does not say.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, I don't think they can concluded what the second.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Was one of the following It'll be the Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Texans,
Gold Cold, Steelers, Eagles, Commanders or Vikings. Not going to
be Philly did them last year?
Speaker 8 (10:45):
So he's listening eight teams there, but we know it's
gonna be the Charters for sure.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
It's their homework.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
And it won't be Philly because they're on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
We already said it won't be Philly.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
The interesting part though, is it's still a big moment,
big game where it's at everything else and you're entrusting
YouTube with this, not a network that's done these international
games before, You're entrusting YouTube, which clearly I mean, like
it's how a lot of people actually get the games now,
but to produce the actual game itself, and you know
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they think about this, YouTube's were allied on everyone else
to produce their content, right, Like that's how we've done it.
We've used their portal, their platform to do it. But
like we've been the ones who've used it to then
you know, monetize our you know, whatever our content was
to get paid back from YouTube. That's heads, It's in
the name. But so it's kind of wild to think about.
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That's the step the NFL is taking, so whether or
not you realize it or not, Like this is the
big three that will probably be presenting the NFL in
the futures, most likely Amazon, Netflix, and YouTube.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
And I think they've all improved significantly over the initial
version that they presented us because that was sort of
maybe the and we've talked about the Netflix stuff and
well if Netflix gets involved, how did the Tyson Jake
Paul fight look and how it they've all gotten better
and better every single year. Amazon Prime, I think looks
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great YouTube TV from year one to year two got better.
So it feels like they're sorting through and figuring out
the way that they can present it. Like you're watching
network television or you're watching the old school, you know, CBS, Fox,
whatever it is. It's just it's wild to think if
you would have had this conversation with somebody, you know,
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five years ago. Oh, by the way, the NFL is
going to start the year on a Friday night, it's
going to be in Brazil. Oh and it's going to
be on YouTube. I don't think anybody, anybody would have
bought it. Just the landscape is changing that fast, and
you see how much traffic and how much YouTube does
and now they're getting involved in this. Just it's And
I think the Peacock price last year was one hundred
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and five million they paid for that game, for the
for that game coming up in Brazil. So in the
NFL schedule release I believe is next week is when
they're going to drop that. So that'll be obviously featured there.
And uh, if it's not going to be the Eagles,
we got options, maybe the Commanders, maybe the Vikings. They'll
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send JJ McCarthy over there and uh, and have him
get a whiff of his first NFL start while in Brazil.
But it still goes back to the original point. In
a perfect world, we wouldn't be taking in that game
on YouTube, but we would be taking in that game
in Sal Paulo, Right, So what do we need to
do with the powers that be to make that happen
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to get out to Brazil for that game?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
You know that's up to you, guys. What do you mean?
I mean, I got to get my past you don't. Yeah,
I got.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
That.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
I say this, I don't want to go unless LaVar goes,
because I want to witness LeVar in Brazil and it's
not worth it for me to go if there's just
you guys. Sorry, I'm I'm being honest, like, I don't
I don't want to sound like a jerk for saying that.
I just feel like LeVar would be so entertaining in
that atmosphere that I don't want to go if he's
not going.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Well, I'm going to say after Thursday in New Orleans,
I feel the same way about Brady Quinn.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
That's not true. I will not be as entertaining and no,
I'll be scared. Probably What's gonna happen here? Are we
gonna get stuck in Brazil? Is there a chance we
never go back? I see my family again. I mean,
I'm already writing that will not make it back.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I wouldn't want to come back.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I mean if they said two pros and a cup
of joe disappeared in Brazil, I just know people, we're okay.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Now, we're fine. Yeah, Oh we're okay. We just didn't
make it back. We're fine.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Tell tell the wife at the we ain't never coming back.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, I make I make sure I facilitate that.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Can you look up on Ai or Grock how to
say two pros and a cup of joe in Portuguese?
Just so we know how to how to open up
the show each day, because we're not coming back. If
we go, just so we can, let's see what we
got here. See if you'll sound it out well?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
All right to profess Uma Kata chicata, I think it's
chicata rolls right off the tongue. It starts with an
x ka. I'm into it. Let's make that happen.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
I feel like Lee sounds like the guy who tries
to speak Spanish or Portuguese. I think it's punched in
the face. That's just I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Sounds like me. By the way, this is uh the
face any good news for you guys here, that's true
in the face. Good news for you guys here.
Speaker 10 (15:55):
Yeah, Friday, pup on Friday, pup on Friday.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Put on Friday. Come on, come on, come on, all right,
all right for Eddie. Let's do it for Eddie. Here
you go for.
Speaker 10 (16:27):
You Friday night and Friday football Friday.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Frock damn story, sugge.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
It is a football Friday here on two pros and
a cup of Joe Man oh man.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
After something like that, I need to get comfortable.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Gotta get real comfortable for something like that. You know,
real you know what.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
I love when you guys draw this out. That's why
I wait for you to do real comfortable I want
to do. Tell me, why did we have time? Why
did we find we missed at the first hour? What
happened there?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I mean, what are we making? You went to twenty eight? Yeah,
we're talking about angry black man in irritable white sin.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, you know what can help you if you're angry
black man?
Speaker 8 (17:14):
You want to help your back there? You not be angry.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, I mean, if you're dealing with back maybe mostly
you don't want to be angry back man.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
No angry back Come on man, up top, up top.
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Damn get rid of that angry We don't need no
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Speaker 4 (18:03):
I should land well.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio on this Football Friday.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Coming up next though, at least somebody's honest.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Somebody in the NFL is honest about how they evaluate
players in the league.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
That'll be yours here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 4 (18:33):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. Coming up less than twenty minutes from now
here on FSR, we are going to have a discussion
about some history, a first in the NFL. That'll be
yours here on Fox Sports Radio. But let's talk about evaluations.
There's been some conversation obviously with the Shoodoor Sanders evaluation
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exactly what goes into the process of evaluating certain players.
But at least somebody is going to be honest about
something here bucks GM. Jason Light was on the JP
Peterson Show and had this to say about the evaluations
in Tampa.
Speaker 9 (19:12):
We have a long process of defining who we're taking
off and who Now it's just because the guys maybe
people don't like him. It means a you know, debagger.
We're not going to just automatically take him off. It's
got to affect their their football character, and it's got
to affect the team. I mean, there's there's a lot
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of people that fit that description that are very good
football players and maybe it works in their favor.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So he also went on to say that if you
can get to the quarterback and you're an a hole
or a d bag, they'll probably take you within reason.
So at least somebody in the NFL is honestly.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's generally more acceptable to have a guy that gets
like plays defense have a disposition about them. It just
can't be a reckless disposition.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
So a quarterback camp be in a hole.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's just your you're held to a different standard. It's
a different ahle, Yeah, you're held to a different you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Yeah, it's not like what he's talking about.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
What's the difference.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Okay, For example, if if they're like, oh man, we
want to take Steve right, he's a really really great
edge rusher, but man, he's had some off the field issues.
He smashed the kid's face into the sink, he gotten
a couple of bar fights. He's got some edginess to him.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Right.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
If that's a if that's a defensive player, they're like,
all right, I mean you got a little baggage. We
kind of like that, you know what I'm saying. Now,
they're going to check into it. But the reality is
like they don't mind that sort of baggage for a
defensive player. If then then if they're like, hey, meet al,
he plays quarterback, and yeah, he's got a little bit
of an issue. You can get thak some some chippying
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and some bar fights and you know, maybe he got
cot mouth and off to something else. They're like, oh,
we don't want to have an asshole in here as
our quarterback. Like that's just that's what it is. Can
I say that word? Yeah, no you can't.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
No, I got it. I got it. That's all right.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You can get both those words, just not together, not together,
not together.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Sorry, seven seconds apart even that's all right.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Oh yeah, seven seconds apart.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
That's a good point. That's a good point anyway, My apologies,
get my point right, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It's interesting because you take, like, think about two of
the greatest, arguably greatest football players. But on defense, I mean,
they didn't cut or release Ray Lewis after two thousand.
I mean, he wasn't found guilty, but they did cut
him up and he did have to appear in court guilty.
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What And then we could take it look at LT
and what LT had going on. They didn't cut him,
They didn't cut him, and in fact, they adapted he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
He was just smelling it, you know, I don't know, man. All.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
All I'm gonna say is is if you had quarterbacks
getting themselves into that type of situation situations, I just
don't think that they would be welcomed back unless unless
they're like greatest of all time? Which have you ever
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heard of any greats of all time outside of maybe
Brett Farv?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Maybe Brett Farv?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Can you think of anybody else that you would say
have sketchy character type traits about them? Roethlisberger's got a
couple of the Okay, Roethlisberger, you could throw him on there.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
That's a good one. I mean, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And listen, I don't want to start any problems here,
but not coming.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Into the league. Roethlisberger didn't have that coming into the league. No,
And I don't want to start any problems here. Like
maybe it is possible that maybe quarterbacks are just better people. No,
they just have to they have to present themselves. They're
actually just disgusting people in some regards. Absolutely, absolutely, Sometimes
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they are the worst of us. Believe you, believe me.
They get all the attention for one. Everybody is like
we know who the quarterback is. Sometimes they are the
I mean not the worst as in my like my teammate,
the worst. I'm saying, the worst than what you could
think that they be doing.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
They aren't.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
They're not super well. Y'all aren't super well like all
of y'all are not super well behaved people.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Believe me.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I've hung out with enough qbs in my day. Yeah,
they're not all well super behaved, is all I'll say.
And and don't just have the gift to give you
a snap count.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
They have the gift to.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Gab real good like like dang when they say quarterback
to play little guts really bring you home and you
ain't even got to do much. What kind of play
we're talking about? I'm just saying, you know what play
I'm talking about that played out to keep us over
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in Brazil forever for life.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Hey Brady, I'm running out of reasons why we haven't
been back yet.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Here you talk to her.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I already did flight the way I already did abducted like,
I don't run it out of options.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Wow, I mean, I've already got one in the back
pocket that I think.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Would work always. Let's just keep it there. You're going
to ask you for it I'm going to keep it there. Yeah,
Jode is about to ask you for it.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Just keep it there. I'm just gonna keep it all
the way real.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I mean, I just ain't coming back, and you know
exactly why.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
But it does like so when they're talking about these
these players that have these characters.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
She's like Mike Green of mar Marshall.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
He was a guy who they looked at and was like, well,
that's a first round talent, but he slipped until the
second round. I believe it's like that.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
There's financial considerations too, all right, And to compare, I
know we've got it on here, I think for the
next segment, but kind of hit it up now. So
Jaden Higgins signed a fully guaranteed second round deal, all right,
So we have not seen that until this contract. At least,
I'd have to sort through a bunch of the second
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round picks to look at how legitimate that is one
way or another. But the reason why that's significant is
because you're saying, right now, hey, Micreen should have been
a first round pick based on his talent, based on
his measurables, all these things, but he had these character
issues so he slides to the second round. Why is that. Well,
it's less of a financial commitment. These first round deals
are fully guaranteed four years, fully guaranteed deals. That's significant
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the team is obviously when we're talking about depending on
where you're taking in the first round, some of these
guys are making about forty million now on these rookie deals.
It's fully guaranteed. So do you think an owner wants
to sign off on a guy that's got a history
like that that could potentially do it again. We are
all creatures of habit, not saying that he's going to
do it again or he's going to you know, any
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of these other players will do something again. But you
have to be aware enough to say, we're human beings.
We make mistakes, and we tend to sometimes repeat those mistakes.
Ask Lee.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But the reality because you called it at the perfect time, exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
He's not here, I know exactly.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Yeah, exactly. But that's a separate story. But you get
my point. It's less of a financial pinch it awfully, it's.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Less multiple breaks and he picks during the show to go.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He's listening to us right now, trying trying to probably
all on his hand.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Let's see how quick he gets back in out.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Of breath too, completely out of breath. But you get
my point. It's less of a financial risk, which is
why it's usually tied with guys slipping to the second
third round of the draft sometimes and then in some
cases even the.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah there is he got back in there quick.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
I bet he did.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Lee. Did you hear us talking about you while you
were resting? No? Oh, and I wasn't. I was working.
Oh oh he was working? All right? Okay, what were
we talking about? You working the commode? Were you working
the commote? No? Oh, you were working. Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Lee did call me and say like he's going to
do more, Like he's like he's into this, doing more things.
So I believe him. I don't believe you were taking
a rest bit in the restroom. I believe you.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
All right. Anyways, back to what you were saying, you, oh, yeah,
nothing else you wanted me to wait? Yeah, no, you're good? No?
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Oh yeah, no. I just said, Look, we're all creatures,
have habit. We tend to sometimes make mistakes.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
What yes, And here's.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
The tough thing about the NFL is the NFL is
a league of or I should say, in the NFL,
if you're what's called a mistake repeater, you will not
be in there very long. And so the first mistake
is what dings you if your first round talent of
being you know, in the second, third, fourth round, depending
on the severity. The second mistake is usually what's going
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to cost you your job altogether. Now, if you're supremely talented,
maybe you can get another shot. But for the most part,
if you've got baggage coming in you and depending on
where you get draft and how bad that baggage is,
you might only get one more shot the rest of
the way.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well, I'll say this, and looking at character situations, especially
depending on what it is, like like the kid out
of Marshall, Mike Green, that that those are you know,
those are touchy situations when you talk about when whenever
there's sexual assault involved it it tends to be a
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that's a tough one to overcome, you know, So it
just it just depends. Like if you're somebody who, Okay,
you got caught up like like I brought up with
you guys about Eli Manning like he was publicly intoxicated, right,
Like it's kind of like, all right, dude, you got
arrested one time for public intoxication.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Are you going to be a problem? Are you an alcoholic?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Like we need to understand the deats on on that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Are there pictures of him? Can you find him?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Because I don't know, I never looked got to look
for any pictures of him being I'm certain there's a
much shot of him.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
There's got to be a much shot he got arrested.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Have you ever seen the pictures of Kyle Orton when
he was partying? No full bottle of Jack Daniels. Well,
it looks like leave a bigger.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
But but those things to me can become egregious, but
they don't. They don't start off as egregious. It's like
you had a moment. Probably the person that is evaluating
you has had that same moment. Like that's something that
you can say, Okay, you had a hard week, you
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went out, you had one too many. Okay, this isn't
a habit, it's just something that you've done and you
got caught up that time. Okay, that's I get that,
good conversation. We don't have to worry about you in
that way. But when you get off into like you
get accused for something that is sexual in nature, and
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then you double down on it and you get another
one that's not People that are evaluating you don't relate
to that. They don't say, oh, I get it, you know,
it happens, be better next time. You don't really get
that type of grace and those types of situations. And
(30:58):
so I guess it depends on the seriousness and nature
of what that prospect has been associated with and been
a part of, because that is a part of your
body of work that is just as as critical and
your evaluations as.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
What you do on the field.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
And there are things that these scouts and these you know,
franchises will overlook based upon what you've done on the field,
but some of those things will not. Your play does
not constitute them saying we're going to overlook your conduct
or your character, you know, with what this particular situation
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that you found yourself in. And there's plenty and many
of guys sitting at home and never got the opportunity
to even sniff the National Football League. In fact, even
colleges do the same exact thing. They'll pass on on
you too, post the wrong thing on social media. A
college will pull their offers back. They will not give
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you the scholarship. They will not bring you in.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, but don't you think there's somebody who's like, eh,
well we'll look past this.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
A community college, a smaller college, it's yeah, maybe maybe.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I mean, look, Baker Mayfield tried to run from cops,
got tackled. You know, that was on video.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Still what number one overall good career. So apparently second
chances are a real thing. It is a two pros
and a cup of Joe hero. Why was he running
from the cops, I don't need That's still bizarre to
me because they were, I guess, trying to talk to
him about being drunk in public.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
There you go run, But see you see what I'm saying.
What it goes back to is it went to the bottle.
He tried to run because he was publicly intoxicated and didn't.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Well, you probably call him a dirt bag, right, I
mean that's.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
You know I would call that dirt bag.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
That's not dirt bag you behavior.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
No, No, I don't think. I don't think. I don't
think public intoxication in some instances is total.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I don't think that's egregious.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Can say I think it's something that we could all
find ourselves being victim of at some point if you
have drinks, I think it's way worse to be privately
intoxicated than publicly.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Publicly.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
You're being social, you're hanging out, no concerns if you're
if you're sitting on your futon ripping an eighteen pack
by yourself, you got problems.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I mean, okay, so I'll give you a great example.
I'm not a drunker. I don't get drunk. I like
to I have a glass of wine, maybe two. I
can go through bottles of wine actually anyway.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
But I'm not a.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Drunker like that New Orleans I was. I was fried,
I can admit what I mean. And that was probably
the first time I had been that far down that
rabbit hole in like years.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Put on a clinic. You were there all day. Yes, So,
but here's the thing, right.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
When when that happens, like you may be lose my
thigh where else I'm going with this. Here's the point.
Here's the point I'm making right. I drank a drink
one time, and it was one drink. What I told
you guys about it, I was out of speak easy
and it was one of those ones that they poured.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Clear, they poured over the absence Yeah, that's it right there.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And I was walking down the hallway on this stagger,
and I threw up twice on the walk down the hallway.
Now somebody could see that and say he's publicly intoxicated,
and I would argue that I don't even think I
was intoxicated, but that jacked me up bad. So it
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could be a situation where you drank something you didn't
it didn't agree with you. You could find yourself in a
situation where it's what you did, it just didn't agree
with you. That doesn't That doesn't make you a dirt
bag or a bad person or a drunk. It doesn't
make you that. And maybe I'm trying to justify me not.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Be No, I just think. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
But it goes back to the original point we started with.
You can act like that when you go to Tiana's
because they do serve alcohol.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
But there's two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
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Speaker 4 (36:09):
All Right, So I didn't know that the.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Ft X crypto scam was still, uh was still going on,
and I know there was still.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Tom Brady and I'm involved with that.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, but apparently this According to Mackenzie Sigilos of cs
CNBC dot Com, a federal judge in Florida has found
that plaintiffs failed to prove that Brady and others had
sufficient knowledge that FTX and CEO Sam Bankman Freed were
engaged in misconduct. By the way, that guy Sam Bankman Freed,
you want to talk about an odd ball, That guy's
(36:42):
a weirdo.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Is it a weirdo bonat, Yeah, really weird very and
so is the.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
I also feel like he isn't He isn't getting as
in as much trouble as he should be for this.
People lost a ton of money.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
He's not behind bars?
Speaker 8 (36:58):
Is he?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Is he out?
Speaker 8 (37:00):
He might be out. I don't know, Just kind of
check on that.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Leave.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
How this relates though to Tom Brady and what we're
talking about is it's kind of interesting because you're gonna
be careful whenever you endorse something right. And here's the
hard part. He he's not going to be the No
one can claim that he had any knowledge whatsoever that
this whole thing was a disaster. And that's really what
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the courts had to approve, or they had to approve
that Tom Brady had knowledge of this and then was
out giving people, uh this idea that it was a
trustworthy marketplace or exchange for crypto. Meanwhile, it wasn't. And
I would say for most athletes. For most people endorsing
a product, how the hell would they have any knowledge
(37:50):
of it? Half the time you know how it works
is you're most likely targeted by It could be a
promotional company or another marketing aid to see that works
with the brand, and they're working with your agent and
they're basically saying, Hey, this is what we'd like to
have your athlete promote. This is how much we're willing
(38:10):
to compensate them for this amount of time, or this
is what we're giving an exchange for compensation. And then
your agent's gonna come back and say, all right, like
what's the market value? What should this be worth? What's
my athlete willing to do? And then those are the
conversations that they have. They're not looking into like the
financial viability or the workings of whatever that company is.
(38:32):
And you might say, well, maybe you should, and look,
the athlete should the agent should have some sort of
idea of what they're promoting and making sure it's on
the up and up. But when you're talking about some
of the fraud that was going on, I have no
idea how Tom Brady would have any knowledge of that whatsoever.
I mean, even if they were giving him equity. It's
not like they're allowing him to be like one of
(38:54):
the decision makers just because he's an equity holder. You know,
they're just doing that in lieu of given them cash
because they don't have any on hand. That's oftentimes why
companies will give away equity to athletes or to be
a part of his because they don't have enough cash
to be able to pay them to promote the products,
so they're giving him equity instead. Now they might say, hey,
we want to tie you to the brand and you know,
(39:15):
make you invest it in your involved too, because if
this sells for a bunch of bunch of money, you've
got equity in the company, show you should you should
want it to It Usually doesn't really ever work out
that way. So it's not surprising that you know, he
was able to get off whatever you know charges that were.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
But by the way, he's got his hands in so
many different pots, Brady, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (39:38):
There's another reason, Like how would you be able to
know any of that stuff's going on?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Dude, Like, he's like broadcasting the Raiders different sponsors. I
saw him in a Dude Perfect video yesterday. I'm like dude,
has this guy have time? Like he just like booked himself.
Oh tom Brady, Yeah, how's he got time?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
It's Tom Brady figures it out.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Okay, it's gonna lax of mass man not going on.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Man, I do maximize it.