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The College Football Playoff will now seed based off rankings, but do Conference Championships become pointless if they aren’t rewarded a bye in the College Football Playoff? Plus, a Topic Roundup and Wheel of the Indy 500.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
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to war babeah, man go to woom. Yeah that's what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah. Well yeah, he's like the fourteenth Warrior, you know.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, it's like the Connection Warrior. Yeah yeah, gotta fight
to stay connected people. I don't know about that. That's
a war.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Not a lot of help. Not a lot of help.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Can we get the Lee's yesterday at some point, just
to figure out how he's doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
Lucy's a real bitch, huh whoa. And that's an app
out there people, by the way, not real person. It's
not a real person.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Although Lucy was kind of a jerk from the peanuts.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Okay, okay, uh you know you know Charlie browny.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Uh yeah, No, not a lot of boozing yesterday, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
Just I think I had just a beer or two
while I was barbecuing for the game.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Beard is shot at some point.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
No no shots. Although today because Todd slept through the
urgent care?

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (02:00):
So I'm gonna go get some bloodies and take them
to their urgent care.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Nothing like that Friday with the cauliflower air. With the
cauliflower air, yes, right, yeah, good and bloody Mary's never
heard of it. That sounds Yeah. I mean, I'm not
a bloody marry guy anyway, but that sounds ridiculously.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Even more horrible, there's probably gonna be dumb, dumb question ly.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Like why not just no beer? Like why not just.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Like take a day off, you know what I mean,
like like a sparkling water.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't know I did.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
Yeah, it was mostly sparkling water and uh, Coca cola
and what I'm telling you, sir, and two beers.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, well yeah, but why not?

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Well, well, because I got well here's the thing. It
was its Memorial Day weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
The troops on our hero.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
But had to go get had to go get a
thirty rack. Do you just like half for the weekend?
I left that, you know, left that be let that
hang out where it needs to go hang out. But
you know, I had to put him in the fridge,
get him ready, and you know you're buying the barbecue,
and you gotta what, what did our heroes fight for
the right to have a beer while your barbecue?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I don't know if I down that road. I don't
know if I go.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Down the road as we head into Memorial Day weekend.
I'm not sure that's exactly the first thing.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm the most but not the first thing. But you know,
I'm not sure it's the one hundred thing.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I think there's it's probably pretty far down on the list,
but it's definitely part of it.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
So you're not wrong there.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, and I'm proud America have a beer. Oh wow?
Oh wow? Okay, yeah, I mean that is true.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
And then don't sleep on the fact that before that,
he takes his friend did the urgent care who's got
MRCA of the ear and he's gonna look like he's
got elephant Titus on his neck.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
In a couple hours, he had elephant Titus on his head.
That led.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Really like lef I get almost squished him and that's
how I got the Collie flower ear.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Gotta be more careful.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
But you know, don't sleep on the fact that he
did point out they are going to get bloody Mary's
before they go to the urgent care.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
So sure that'll be Yeah, sir, we're going to draw
your blood and take a sample. Uh have you eaten
anything or drank anything this morning? Uh? No, like at all?
Agreed all of it. A piece of Celery fallout.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Well, it is two pros and a cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio, and something that we were
talking about in real time while it was happening, because
I felt like we were on an island alone when
it came to a lot of people who just wanted
to complain about the college football Playoff as opposed to
just being like, yeah, listen, it's got its flaws, but
can we just enjoy what we got here. Well, apparently

(05:00):
there's not going to be anything left to bitch about,
right because the twelve team College Football Playoff is going
to move to straight seting. They'll have the straight seating
model this upcoming year, so no more automatic first round
buys for the four highest rated conference champs. That means
the top four teams in the selection committee's final rankings
will get the first round. By I'm sure there's going

(05:21):
to be no arguments or disagreements about any of that
when the time comes. But nonetheless, at least we're going
to get some straight seating unlike we had last year
in the playoff.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
This is what I find most interesting about this is
there is.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Such a contrast between the NFL conversation and their playoffs
and college football. So if you look at the conversation
we had earlier this week with Pete Prisco about the
NFL and potentially reseating, how they go about, you know,
determining who gets a home playoff game in the wildcard round.
Remember we talked about, hey, maybe we just get rid

(05:55):
of divisions and then that way you could actually have
every single team at each conference play each other and
you'd actually be able to determine, based on the regular season,
who is the best record, who should get the buy,
who should get home field advantage, and you'd have your
pecking order.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
But then that kind of throws out the idea.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Of, you know, playing for something outside of just a
super Bowl or a conference championship. Once you get in
the playoffs, right, you wouldn't be able to play for
a division championship in the regular season. The arguments that
we have to that is, well, it's a little unfair
because if you look at again, the NFC West this
year plays the NFC South the AFC South. All right,

(06:32):
how many teams, like five teams between those two divisions
had twelve losses or something like.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
That last year.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
And granted it's a new year, we'll see what the
divisions look like. But logic or common sense tells us
that's going to be an easier schedule, most likely for
San Francisco, for example, I think was the example we
were using.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
All Right, now, let's look at the college football playoff.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
And now, instead of giving any weight to a conference championship, right,
like you player eight or nine conference games, and you
go off in the termine which two teams go to
play for it? Instead of awarding them that, we're now saying, yeah,
but even if you win you're conference championship, you still
not might not be one of the top four teams.
How does that make any sense? It's like at some

(07:16):
point the games on the field have to matter, and
instead we're now lobbying or throwing it out there to
the College Football Playoff Committee and allowing them to say, well,
this team didn't win their conference championship, but they look
really good to us on you know, on the field
and on paper, so we're gonna put them as one
of the top four seeds.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
They're gonna get a buy.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
So there's all sorts of things that I think I
have an issue with it, and I know a lot
of people are gonna be like, well, hold on a second,
you're a Notre Dame guy, Like, how does Notre Dame
factor into all this?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
And Notre Dame doesn't play for a conference championship.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
You're right, we don't, but that also was held against us,
so we never could have a buy. And so now
that the system works out where now undern they don't
they're not playing for confence championship and they can have
that buy now as part of this.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
So I know that a lot of people's.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Minds they were upset with the way things worked out
last year in Boise State getting a buy and being
one of those top four seeded teams. But that's why
you play the games and they earn their right to
be in that position. I think after a year it's
a little too soon for me to make such a
reaction like this. And I understand the argument that when

(08:27):
we look at the Big twelve, you look at the ACC,
you don't look at them the same as the Big
Ten and SEC. But I think there's other issues that
we face in college football where we don't play the
same amount of conference games during the course of the
regular season. We don't force all the power forward teams
to play more legitimate non conference opponents, Like let's get
the scheduling right in the regular season to make them

(08:49):
more comparable to one another, and then we can after
a few years maybe look at the format and want
to change it.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I don't like any of this, especially after one year
of doing it.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Can I ash you as a question, do you think
some of this comes down to because last year it
was cut and dry. Hey, here the requirements. If you
do this, you get in, these teams, get in, et cetera.
For the most part. I mean, you still had to
vote and there were rankings and all that. Do you
think part of this is college football looks at it
and says, look, the debate is what is part of

(09:23):
college football? He is so and so number one? Are
they number two? Like that's always been a part of
college football, always part of the sport. This opens that
up more to where now there's no Hey, you're automatically in.
We determine who the top four teams are. We're the
ones who make the decisions. And now it just opens
up further discussion and conversation in discord about who the

(09:45):
best teams are and who's deserving of it. As opposed
to last year, what was like, Hey, so and so,
when's the Mountain West They're in? Here's what we know
moving It just feels like this opens up the discussion
for debate, which I don't think they hate from a
college football standpoint.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I don't think that's a like. I don't agree with
that at all.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I think they're trying to get what they feel like
is the top twelve teams or sixteen in the future
if they expand to go play for a national championship.
And I think they're cognizant of the fact, and this
is all put together by Disney and ESPN, They're cognizant
of the fact that you need big brands, and this
opens up the potential to having bigger brands as part
of it, and it's one of the reasons why automatic

(10:22):
qualifiers has been such a big topic of conversation for
the Big Ten and the SEC. The conferences are so
big now that if you're asking Southern cal for example, hey,
why don't you guys want to play Notre Dame anymore? Well,
now they've become a non They're always a non conference
opponent for us, but now they're just a non conference
opponent that every other year we have to travel more

(10:44):
to have to go play them when we do travel,
and we're already traveling more than it is, more than
we used to, so now that that doesn't really fit
within the model of what they're trying to do. That's
their argument at least, and I think that's part of
the issue is you're kind of hurting some of the
history or the tradition of college football because of the
changing landscape, and you're not incentivizing.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Teams to play tougher schedules. Now.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
If they have an automatic qualifier, I think Southern cow
will be more apt to renew the rivalry. I think
right now they don't want to renew it because they're
fearful that if they have Notre Dame on their schedule
every year and every other day they have to go
to South Bend, that could keep them from making the
college football Playoff.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
They already are going to.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Have to travel enough and play a tough enough Big
Ten schedule. Then on top of that, having a non
conference opponent like Notre Dame is part of that. They're like, yeah,
we're not really sure we want to sign up for this,
and so you can understand it because they're just trying
to look out for their own best interest. That's what
they did in the first place going to the Big Ten.
But the problem is now you've got a model where

(11:46):
we're essentially saying these thirteen people they know better than
what we're witnessing on the field. So you're almost incentivized
teams to if they lose a game, lose a game
but not make the conference championship, so they get a
buy there, and then they get the potential chance of
either getting another buy if they looked apparently to be
that good, or hosting.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
A home playoff game.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
That's an essence like what this sets up for for
some of these teams where they might be saying, hey,
maybe it's not best to play for a conference championship
in one additional game because we still might not be
rewarded for it.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Like, at least in the old system, you can win the.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Conference championship, you're gonna be probably ranked high enough to
be that. And maybe that's some of the thought too,
is they feel like this will take care of itself,
like the four highest will be probably the four conference
champions from the power for But the caveat is now
they've got the ability to put another team ahead of
one of those, so you don't get a Boise or
an Arizona State who gets a buy automatically just because

(12:43):
they won their conference and where the rankings are.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I just think it's all it's so much conversation
behind it, and it's so in a lot of ways.
I feel like there's a lot of complexities to it,
like if if you you know, it's just I'm so
conflicted because if you win your conference, that should be

(13:07):
an accomplishment that is rewarded, and that's what I can't
seem to get away from. And it almost comes back
to does there need to be more of a focus
on the value of what the conference, of what the
conference championship represents, Like, how do you find like maybe

(13:31):
those very issues that are being addressed going into how
you seed the playoff teams should be addressed in how
you're scheduling within the conference and that weight of what
the conference represents ultimately is respected and recognized by the

(13:54):
governing bodies or the voters or whoever are the schedulers,
whoever it is that's doing that. It's almost like you
have to figure out a way to have that value
pre playoff, and I don't know how you do that.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
The five highest ranked conference champs are still going to
be in the twelve team playoffs.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
They get automatic, automatically in, but they don't necessarily get
a buy.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, so I don't. I don't. You know. It's like, Okay,
you're in. You didn't make it to the conference championship game,
but because you have something about what you did in
your schedule, you get a bye, but you didn't even
play for your conference championship. It just seems counterproductive. It

(14:40):
seems like it's a contradiction, and I feel like it
doesn't do a justice in the service to what's going
to eventually happen in the playoff. In my estimation. And
it's really because, I mean, if you think about it,
that exists this year, like you had a team I
did not even qualify, Like this is how a layman

(15:03):
would see it. They weren't even good enough to make
it to their conference championship game. They were knocked out
by a team that did not even make it to
the college football playoff with in conference play, not early,
not an early game, not a non conference matchup within

(15:26):
the conference. You lost a critical game that costed you
the right to play and compete for the conference title,
and yet you qualify for the playoff and you win
the playoff. To me, it just creates contradictions, which I
get it. If you make it into the playoffs, the

(15:47):
playoffs is an entirely different season. A team catches, catches
a hot streak that at the right time they're able
to make it boom boom boom. But I just think
that it creates an asterisk for what you're doing, especially
if you were to say, Okay, they're going to be
the number one rated team coming into the playoff and

(16:08):
they didn't even play for a conference championship. But based
upon X, Y and Z factors, this is how we're
going to rank and rate them going into the playoff.
It just I can't make sense of it. I have
a hard time making sense of it. Maybe it's just me.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Yeah, well listen, I I don't think anybody should get
totally upset about it. I mean, there's worse things in
the world. You could have an injured back, you could
have some some other things going on, some ailment.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
So I just want to make.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Sure, Oh, we're done talking about this.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I was gonna keep going. I did hear the fingers
go keep going on.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'm just saying, close this out.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Well, my biggest issue is you're like, are we doing
what's in the best interest of the players in the field.
Like I think about Clemson, I think about Arizona State,
I think about you know, Boise, and you know, are
you gonna sit there and say to all those players
and all those teams, you did everything we asked you
to do. You won your conference championship, and yet now

(17:07):
we're not going to reward them. And what kind of
message does that send, Like either make the conference championships
matter or don't and go back to a model where
we don't play them, and then your conference games during
the course of the regular season college football matter, and
you can schedule a more difficult schedule, so then if
you do lose once or one or.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Two games, you still have the opportunity to get in.
I mean, what you're speaking to is Ohio State. You
know when you make that example, LeVar and I know
you name them, but.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
That's the team that ends up, you know, playing a
home you know field first.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Round game against Tennessee. They get hot, they go and
to run, they win a national championship, and yet they
lost to Oregon. They lost a Michigan in.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
One of the biggest upsets in the literally history of
the game.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
We never seen anything like that, like on.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Their home turn, on their home field.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
So that wasn't damning enough to hold them out.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
And we can all you know, argue about whether or
not they should or shouldn't have clearly when they played through
their capabilities, they're the best team in the country. Last
year they proved that, and I think that's the concern
for the committee and this almost this is more this
This feels to me like they're giving themselves the flexibility
to say, well, we have a team that we feel
like can go win it all. Yeah, but maybe they

(18:21):
didn't show it as much, especially late in the season,
so we're going to find a way of getting them in.
And plus it's a bigger brand. I mean, how State rates.
It's the number one team in regards to ratings in
the country. I mean there's others that factor too. Notre
names are part of that. Michigan, you know, Penn State
does as well. There's obviously SEC schools. But the truth
at Texas, the truth is I feel like that's what

(18:44):
this is more about.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
This is more about.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Giving the College Football Playoff Committee the autonomy to be
able to find a way of getting what they feel
like is the more right group of teams to get
to that buy, which I think based off last year
and looking at how many teams were able to get
on a roll and take advantage of the home playoff games,
I don't know that some of those teams wouldn't want
to play, you know, a whole playoff game instead of

(19:08):
getting a buy and go into the next round. Some
of them might want to play that extra game, especially
if they don't have to play on a conference championship. Yeah,
but again that's just my opinion on it.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
You know, clearly, I don't feel like Jonas what's the
way on this?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
So, I mean I like it.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
I like the fact that straight seeding and you want
to be rewarded. You win your conference championship, you get
in good. Fine, I think the NFL should do the
same thing. I've said it all week, so I'm good
with it.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Not that simple.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
I mean, yeah, that you're not talking about right now.
They deserve a buy though, Like automatic entry is one thing.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Arizona State was sixteenth last year and got to buy
David Clemson, No, Arizona State was sixteenth and they got
to buy because they won the Mountain West.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Like Arizona State played in the SEC or a Big twelve.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Of me in the Big twelve and they got a
bye week because they were the highest ranked team and
they were sixteenth in the country, Like, why should they
get a buye? This is this is like the Texans
getting a buye or getting a home game, you know,
because they won the division.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Like, I just I don't like it. I think the.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Buyers should go to the best teams in college football.
I understand. This gives them the autonomy and they're gonna
want to focus on big brands because it rates and
all that stuff. I totally get it. But I do
think you're rewarding these schools. Still, they're gonna get in.
Maybe they're gonna have to go on the road, maybe
they'll get a home.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Game, depending on where they are. But I just I
like the fact that it's a straight up and the twelve.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Understood, just to correct it was it was Clemson. Clemson
was the team that was sixteen. I understand what you're saying,
but they're the ones that had three losses. They won
the ACC they got in. That was the most controversial
one because they're outside of the top twelve. Arizona State
sat at twelve in the final Ragons, but they had
won the Big twelve, which is why they end up
getting the automatic birth.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
In buy and so does Arizonas. Do you think Arizona
State deserve to buy?

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I do if they win their conference? Otherwise, like why
are we playing conference championship games?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
And that that therein lies the whole conversation. It's like
a chase your tail type of scenario.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Okay, but if you win your conference, you get in.
That's your reward. Why are you to buy to that?

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Otherwise we're just trying to throw up like we.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Could get in then yeah, that's what you got it Like,
there's got to be a way to find clarity on
on this this particular what we just said stayd two
seconds ago. There has to be a way to find
clarity on what that represents. There has to be like

(21:39):
that's the circle, that's the that's the hamster whell of
what this is right now? It is. Yeah, and I
don't under I don't. I don't know how you how
you find the balance of value with the rankings and
with the conferences. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
So if you play in an inferior conference and you
win that conference championship, not only do you get in,
you also get a week off, you get a buye.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
A week again. It's just I think it's just trying
to figure out the value of it so that it
doesn't come across that way. It's not fair to say
that about Boise State. It's not fair to say that
about Arizona State. It's not fair to say that about
a team that these kids come out of high school,

(22:27):
they transfer in the portal. They're all looking for the
same exact thing, the opportunity to go get an education
and play out of school where they can compete for
a national title at any given point in time. If
that dream is not a real dream of reality, then
that lessons and lowers the value of wanting to go

(22:47):
to that school. So now that creates a disparity and
talent going from school to school. You'll have the same
two or three four schools that get the same type
of players every year, that win the same games and
win the championship every year. Now, if you create some
parody and teams do have the opportunity to have a

(23:09):
great season and be rewarded for it, then now you
might have players that are actually willing to go to
other schools outside of the main ones. And so what
does that look like if we all came together and
said we want to go to UNLV and make UNLV
a powerhouse for the time that we're here, how is

(23:30):
that rewarded if you go there and you're blowing teams out?

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, I mean Jonas to LaVar's point, if they go
UNLV is a great example, right, Daniell's taken over. They've
got a bunch of money pumped into this team. It
should be a talented team. They were, you know, in
the hunt last year. If UNLV goes undefeated this year,
are gonna say to those kids and the team, like, well,
when you played in the lesser conference, so you shouldn't
get or be able to qualify for a buy if

(23:54):
you end up being one of the highest ranked teams.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
I mean, if they're ranked high enough, I trust the
committee's going to make the right call if they're ranked enough.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
And I just that's what makes it dof And you're
not wrong. I'm not judging you for thinking that way,
because you're not wrong for looking at it that way.
But what's wrong about it is that they did what
they were supposed to do. If they go undefeed, it
they did what they were supposed to do. So you're saying,
basically because this committee doesn't see the value in them

(24:24):
going undefeated, which, by the way, being out of UNLV
is probably more difficult into the conference that they're in
to accomplish being undefeated to do well because the resources
aren't the same.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Like, look, I get it, and I understand that they
should be rewarded, but I view getting into the getting
into the playoff and having an opportunity to win the
whole thing. You're one of the twelve teams in college
football that have an opportunity to win it. You look
on teams that were on the outside looking in Alabama,
South Carolina, Ole Miss last year, they.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Would have taken it.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Listen, we'll go on the road, Like, just get us
an opportunity to be a part of this. And I
do think you're rewarding them. I just don't think you
should reward an inferior conference with a bye week just
because they won that conference.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like, here's the problem is. I think if you if
you push away the group of five.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Teams and you're gonna say there's a clear separation between
the power for a group of five, which in the
language we use alone, you already do that. So they
just need to just flat out and say it and say, look,
group of five.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
You can be a part of it.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
But the reality is is we don't ever feel like
you're gonna go to have a buye and that it's
gonna get to a point where it just keeps pushing
us further and further down the road of creating a
system that doesn't involve those schools.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
And that's unfortunate for those players in those schools.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Because they're not gonna be able to have a robust
enough you know, Division one college football program.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
If you're saying that to exactly what LeVar is saying.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
And you're not going to you're not going to be
able to legitimately say this is your national.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
And by the way, what do you guys care? You
guys are blue bloods, You're notre Dame of Penn State.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
You're going to get in. What are you worried about
the gum on your shoe with these other schools.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
But that's the problem is it shouldn't be like that.
You have to earn it. You can't just sit.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
When they're a blue blood they should be in. That
was part of the issue with Alabama or Ole miss
or whoever. Last year's like, oh well, they're an SEC team,
they should just get in. It's like, okay, why are
we playing the games?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Then? Like why does any of this matter?

Speaker 4 (26:21):
If we just want to say, hey, these are the
top teams because of their resources or their blue bloods,
or you know, they rate or we think on paper
they should be or on paper they make better matchups,
like well, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Like why do we play the games? Then?

Speaker 4 (26:36):
If we're not going to use those results as indicators
for something.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
It's just qualifiers. Qualifiers is the problem here. You got
to eliminate the qualifiers like oh they were good, Oh
they would undefeed it.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
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Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the air coming
up next though, we are going to look around. There's
a lot of discussion and conversation to be had from
stories and topics from around the world of sports over
the past several days, and we are going to round
them all.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Up and it'll be yours here at FSR.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app two pros and.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
A cup of Joe.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
the air coming up in about ten minutes from now.
There's a major sporting event taking place this weekend, and
we've got just a thing to pick a winner be
yours here again a little over ten minutes from now.
But a brand new tradition here every single Friday is

(28:07):
you know, we've got some things we need to get to,
some things maybe we haven't had a chance to touch
on over the past couple of days. What well you'll
find out because it's time for another edition of this.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, settle up, partners, tighten them their checks. It's the
topic round up, all.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Right, round and away we go.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Huh. First thing on the docket, Congratulations to the Buffalo Bills.
Years ago you had fans there throwing bildos out on
the field, and all these years later they've got the
MVP of the league and now they will be featured
on Hard Knocks. Congratulations to the Buffalo Bills. All that

(28:58):
means is there's no Super Bowl for you again this
year based on the Hard Knocks curse. Dang okay, thoughts, Nope.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
I still think. I don't know. I don't believe in
the whole curse thing. I really don't.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Now people could argue with me because I am a
Cleveland sports fan, but it's just I think they can
break it if that, if you believe in that sort
of thing, like, I don't think hard Knocks has anything
to do with it.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I really don't.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
They are favorite in every game this year, the only
team in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
For what it's worth.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
So they're going to go undefeated?

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yeah, yeah, favor to have the most wins on draftks.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's interesting. If you make that bet right now and
they were to actually go undefeed, it that doesn't count
the playoffs, does it. No, I would take that bet.
I take that bet. You think they're going to go undefeated.
They could go undefeated in the regular season. Really, I
don't know that that. I don't know that. They really

(30:00):
had too many complicated issues during your regular season at times.
In fact, they're a pretty impressive regular season team. Oh,
it's just that damn hump of the playoffs you know,
gets them every time historically speaking as well as currently.

(30:20):
I would say there's a better that could be the curse.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
I would say there's a better chance of Scott Norwood
going back in a time machine and making.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
That kick than the Bill's going undefeated undefeated this year.
I don't see it as possible at all. That was
as Locke, that chance they're going knocks. There you go.
That definitely was a Knox lock.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Next up here as we fire away at the spatoon.
An interesting note here. An interesting note here. Apparently one
organization in the NFL is full of forgiveness and fences

(31:05):
have been mended because according to this note here on
the rundown, it says that Joe Douglas joins the Jets
scouting department.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Which is interesting Joe, because.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
I could have sworn that Joe Douglas was just with
the Jets and they fired.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Him last year.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
So I'm wondering whether or not maybe this was meant
to say Eagles, but instead it says Jets.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yes it was.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, what one or two beers? Is that what it
was about?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Delivery Wednesday?

Speaker 5 (31:30):
On a Thursday, Joe Douglas rejoins the Jets as as
a member of the scouting department.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
But no, he's in Philly. He's in Philly.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
He will join that scouting department from all accounts a
pretty good talent evaluator, and Philadelphia adds to the arsenal
of talented people inside the building there.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, I mean la for you just worked with them
right draft. He's a great mind, great talent value with
all the things. Jonah Sidney, he was a good guy.
It's good to have him around the organization.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Solid dude, man. And you know he's got you know,
he's a he's a player, you know what I mean,
He's got that player feel to him. He's a big
fellow at you.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
You know, I know what you're saying. Jonas doesn't know,
but you know, I know what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, Yeah, he's relatable, definitely, Like feel comfortable around him.
Why wouldn't I know, because you just don't. That's not
you lived that life, you know.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, man, you know what about that?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, damn, Claire, you're part of that that group that
once you leave, yeah yeah, once they round him up
and get him out of the locker room, then we
started interacting with he gone, he's gone. Blood Jones is gone. Yeah,
he gone.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
You in Prescale, priscould be falling right behind you.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Next up here as we fire away again at the spatoon,
brock perty just got paid.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah he did. Now it's pointed out by lead to
lapping in case you missed it.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
The taxis are really going to take a bite out
of his financial ass.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
But you know what he's gonna do to counteract that? What?
Don't get him sel a fishing boat?

Speaker 7 (33:06):
Obviously, we want to make sure that we're working together
with our organization and setting up everybody for success. It's
not just for me to get all them.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Doesn't sound like a boat.

Speaker 7 (33:15):
Much as I can, but also like, hey, let's surround
yourself with a great team and players.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
And is he talking about a fishing team? Yeah, it's
a boat.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Is that other body he wants to go catch a
black marlin? Huh? That one right there?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Can he fit a black marlin on that fishing boat?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
One or two beers?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Bade two here.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Thursday, crown them up.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
I've always fishing, I was telling my wife. She's annoyed
with me, but I'll say it, but I'd like to
get a bass boat one day, so that'll.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Be my first big So there it is for quite
a while to get that basboat.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Don't quite fit a black marlin on it. That's not
big enough. So uh, the first big purchase for rock
Party is a bass boat.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well, with the mount of taxes that he's paying, you
ain't getting a yacht, You're gonna get a bass boat. Nah,
he's still making some scratch. Where's he gonna go fishing
out here for bass?

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
There's lakes, So he's gonna go Piru What he's talking about?
Pu Lake?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Piru?

Speaker 1 (34:30):
What there's a lake called Paruang?

Speaker 7 (34:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
It feels like that would be something. Uh, they'd be
set tripping on that lake. Maybe this is back home,
maybe in the Midwest. Feels like it's a better spot.
They have lakes here in California. Yeah, you can go
bass fishing in Cali. Bro. Yeah, I'm more of a
great lakes guy. You know. Well, that's you start going
mess around with like some walleye, some big mouth bass,

(34:56):
some rainbow trout. Yeah, walleye fry walleye.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Who out here you go fishing, You'll end up with
a homeless guy at the end of year.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I'll slap somebody in the face if you frish on
walleye the right way. I mean I had one. Yeah,
it was so good. Dang, it was so good Walleye.
Lee told me he named his walleye. Never mind, I
oh that Walleye could get you in trouble every once

(35:28):
in a while. You gotta use both eyes, never mind
even gonna say it. Uh.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
So that is this week's edition of the Top and
Round Up here on uh Smooth sailor as always.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Wow, that's the best part is the round up by Q.
You gotta be honest, all right.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
So coming up next here though, there's a major sporting
event going on this weekend, and we are going to determine,
and we're going to do it in a special way
who's gonna win this event.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's yours here on FSR.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
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Speaker 5 (36:10):
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(36:30):
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Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, we do this.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
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when our experts can.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Spin a wheel? So now it's time for the Indy
five hundred winners.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yes, all right, let's go.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
Who's got the longest arm of the bunch? Far you
want to spin that way?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I mean, of course I had the longest arm of
the bunch. You heard that. What does he look like?
Plus nine hundred for Scotty?

Speaker 8 (37:24):
All right, little nine to one Brayden, All right, let's
spin this thing. Scott Dixon, no idea that guy.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
Yeah, he's plus six fifty's third favorite to win it.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
All right, So.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Brady's got Dixon? You got Dixon? Brady, don't don't do that,
by the way, you do.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Not last, by the way, you can you can't see
the INDY five hundred coming out?

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Have you? Yeah? You get that name?

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Have you?

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah? To the end of that. That's a straight win
in Hey, Brady, you got Scott's I mean it does?
It does? By the way, Uh, you.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Can you can't see the ND five hundred this weekend
on Fox Sunday.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Uh the drunk Go ahead and do it.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Let's go get your get away from Q.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Kyle Larson, all right, little Nascar there you go.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, I'll go for the NASCAR guy. Let's go Cox.
Let me pull out my immediate how's it spelled?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Is it g I x O M.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Yeah, so it feels a little different, Yeah, I F
N y A yeah, the the c K is.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Silent, whatever makes it feel about? All right, here we go.
I'm gonna give a space. There's an act of Poor.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Paddo award.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
He's the favorite plus one.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
All right, irishman, not gonna work out for you? All right,
there we go. All right, Lorraene, you want to give
a spin on this wheel?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:15):
I want to do it.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
You don't want to swapping? The technology.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
Award is a Mexican water Sports F one driver, So
there you go.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Host sef Newgarden two times, Chip.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
Yeah, two time back to back winner, New Gardens plus
nine fifty.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I love this. Wheels so much fun.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
You like this.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
I love it. It's great.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
It's really spent it one more times for you know. Yeah,
just looks plus five fifty. That's a good wheel. That's
because you got a shot of being a boys. Jesus right,
that was brutal. So there we go, wheel of in

(40:00):
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