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Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah. I don't even know if we could have that discussion.
Is everyone uses it? I don't know who everyone is
talking about? All right, will tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
All right before all right, so there is there's a
term that was thrown out, not by us, but overheard, uh,
the term f boy.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
And we're trying to get he thinks that it's a.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Guy that has a ton of relations. Let's let's start
off with this. Is it a positive or negative? Someone
calls you that, it's a negative, it's.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
A negative red flag for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's a rip. I mean it's a rid flag because
you're being insulted. Like when you call somebody that, it's
almost like that's like fighting words.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
That's not for men. You you you have relations with
a lot of women.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
I think no, I think no, hold on, I think
their interpretation is a little different, but it's still not
a positive.

Speaker 8 (02:31):
I'll put it that way. Correct, That's how I put it.
What do you mean correctly? You just said it. I
didn't say, by the way, I'm not saying it like that.
I think my interpretation, Lorena, correct me if I'm wrong.
Is that no one's taking you seriously, like even if
that is occurring, If that activity is happening. It's not

(02:53):
happening with multiple people, and it sure as heck isn't
anything serious.

Speaker 7 (02:57):
It's like we just don't trust you all the game.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Other Yeah, it doesn't even have anything to do with that.

Speaker 7 (03:03):
I've never heard it. With what you said.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
It is, yeah, in terms of you soft like or
like that's a guy, I'll slap you in your mouth,
or like like go watch my car while I go
in here and cash a check or what like.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's an f B, carry my pats FB like I've
always heard, like make sure my lockers clean, f B like.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
Like he messes around like he's not serious.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
That's an know what it means. No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
I've always heard the term cabana boy, like cabana boy,
go get me stuff, like go get me this me
like it's so stupid.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's I swear to god, that's what I heard.

Speaker 9 (03:44):
Boy.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I used to call.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Rob Parker that because he would always defend Major League
Baseballs like, yeah, your mobs, you gotta be careful.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Because the cabana part would have slid, but the boy
part might have got you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I'm just saying, you just never know. But that's what
you know.

Speaker 10 (03:59):
That's what the internet right now, guys, And it says
a man who has many casual sex partners.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
The internet is this is.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
How I use it too, and a lot of girls
I know this is how they use it.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
That is it's a generational thing. No, it's not. That
is not screw How are you guys trying.

Speaker 9 (04:23):
Been around.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
A guy who has a lot of partners that has
it actually has nothing to do with with that.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Hey, let's up bury the lead here. Lee just said
it's a generational thing. It's if we're like forty years older.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
Another slang for womanizer. That's what it says.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, no way, what it is. That is not what
it is.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a much more offensive
way of calling somebody a sucker or.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Scrub or turd. Here you go, tird.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Yeah, you Jonas would describe it what you just said.
Lorraine has a stallion. That's that's what Jonas would say.

Speaker 9 (05:06):
He would use cabana boy if he was talking about
what we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
I was always under the impression it's the same thing.
But according to Lee, generations think differently. Okay, general it's
a generational thing. What your in laws call it.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Hey, no, a blah man.

Speaker 11 (05:25):
According to Greg, AND's somebody who's seeking casual relationships, his
manipulative behavior, self centeredness, and is inconsistent in communication.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
That is not correct. I'm just telling you how what
the hell the kids speak?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
That is.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Speaks to.

Speaker 7 (05:42):
Send it in a group chat right.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Now, there's man man up right now. Bree just texted.

Speaker 7 (05:47):
Bree just texted.

Speaker 10 (05:48):
She said she's one million percent on our side.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
There's on She says, there's a boy, it's not a
it's not a.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Woman's which you're speaking from.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
LeVar and I had talking from a different side, like
the way men use it's different than how women.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
If I told men men to go get the trash
and he did go get the trash, I'd be like
you f boy, Oh you.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Very good looking, promiscuous guy.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
No one's gonna take you. Seriously, go get the trash.
You miscuate, young man.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Don't get a glad bag, you woman.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
You boys know that it's just two different terms. That's
not the only word or phrase that you can make
that claim for.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
Clearly, y'all didn't hang out with the circle of people
we hung out with.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
That's all I'll say back they were agreeing with the
rock that's the wors did someone called Lee this and
now he's trying to make that positive? And so I
had heard somebody.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
I'll just say I heard LeVar use the term and
I was like, hey, but mean to ask you what
does that mean? Because I always thought it meant what
you guys said it meant. And then when did you
hear me use it? And what can text? Do you
remember what context? I used it?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Like, I'm not because like some of the things Lee
does during the show, I probably be like, stop acting like.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Ab So the reason why the conversation started is because
I asked you about it and you were like, yeah,
it means this, and that's what I thought it meant
because I had heard something similar. And then Lee, as
you were walking aways, like no, that's not what it means.
It means a guy who gets a lot of women.
I'm like, that's so can I pose this question? Can

(07:31):
I pose this question? Which it could get interesting for Lee?
So Lee, you're trying to put this like positive spin
on it.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's not how yes you are is positive? I said it.
You weren't there when I said it. I said, it's
a guy who treats women.

Speaker 11 (07:50):
Poor, like, has a lot of partners and is not
serious about being in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
That's what I said.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Here's the only thing I'm gonna say right now to you, Lee,
is if someone's calling you this and you're trying to
say like, yeah, I could be that, Like, aren't there
listeners right now that might want to argue otherwise.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
That argue that what that I'm that I am?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
What?

Speaker 6 (08:08):
There might be like certain people listening that maybe you
should want to fall in that category.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I want you to go to a random dude that
looks tough as hell, maybe preferably a black dude, and
be like, what's up, f B?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Would I do that?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, because all you're telling him is is he just
he has relations with a lot of girls. That's all
you're doing is you know what he's thought, and you
know what he's going to say to you.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
He's going to be like, yeah, man, I am an
f B.

Speaker 11 (08:35):
That's what he's going to say to these Some guys
are like that, Yeah, it's basically you know what something
have never I've never heard of a dude.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Dude's proudly how about come in here and call me
a f B. I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Punch you in your freaking mouth, because I'll punch you
in your mouth. Do you call me a f B
I'll punch you in your mouth. That's how derogatory that work.

Speaker 9 (09:00):
It is like if I was walking.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Down the street and a random dude was like, hey,
f boy, I turned around and I'm taking my shirt
off and we got the throw down.

Speaker 9 (09:11):
By the time we get the one out, do you
have to take your shirt off?

Speaker 12 (09:15):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, we're about to get it.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
In well, concerned about someone using the hockey move on
with you keep your shirt off. I thought there was
two reasons you take your shirt off in a fight. One,
you got a nice shirt on. You don't want to
like stretch out the collar or and get blood on it.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's exactly why I take mine off. I don't want that.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
You don't want someone to hockey you where they pulled
it back and yeah they're stuck.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
No, No, I take mine off because I don't want
to get anything on it. Whether it's you or me,
were going thump, I don't. I don't care if there's
my blood or we're.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Going to thump.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
You know what Jodas would be doing on the side
he take his shirt off, me waving around like a
Joe Budden rap videos.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Well, first of all, it's during the day, during the daytime.
I'm not taking my shirt off. That's no, You'll disappear.
Oh yeah, straight, trading busin will be like a weapon
cam redirect something. It's like the Prayer.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Where did it go? It's like the Predator. He only
flaps it on the track three dots. I just just
was too that isn't serious about women, like, let me
tell you something too, completely different meanings. I'm like, wait,
who's telling the truth here?

Speaker 6 (10:25):
I do appreciate I do appreciate this about Lee, though,
he will try to like someone calls him something like that,
that's probably more derogatory.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
He's gonna take and try to make it a positive
and be like, yeah this yeah, because groxid, this is
what it is.

Speaker 10 (10:41):
People use it against three guys.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, you're saying I'm wrong, But everyone uses it
that way. It is not.

Speaker 11 (10:49):
No, everybody ridculars something I say, but it's that's the
way it is.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
I have said it.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I wasn't. I was proud. I feel like I could
see that right. I was probably ninety percent sure I
knew what it meant. And if you.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Called me that, the last thing I would think was
a womanizer, Like that's that's a compliment to a lot
of guys.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
It is, but it's not a compliment complimentary word. It's
an insult. It's meant to be an insult. I didn't
create the word, guys, I'm sorry, and y'all.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Clearly didn't create the meaning either. Yeah, y'all off, totally off.
But I used the word. I used the saying all I.

Speaker 10 (11:30):
Don't see your definition online bar the hours online.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
We created it. Hold on, so created it.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
People brand things all the time.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Right, So Lorena just said three three on three, you
guys are right, all right, so you're a real one.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
I don't even use it, so you can't go in
a real one whatever.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I'm with them. I'm the one who brought up the conversation.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
So tiebreaker herebo former producer here at Fox Sports. Yeah,
says LeVar and Brady are right.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Thank you. It's a very simple it's a very simple explanation.
How's that for a seven game series? Yeah? How about
the apples? Huh? Good will hunting for you there? Holdly,
what a ridiculous conversation.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I mean, whoever did the online I will say this
to y'all's defense, whoever did these online definitions of f B.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
They're an f B. They're an f B. Whoever did him?
That's some tech nerdis trying to I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
And if we want to, if y'all want to jump
on that that heel as we use on this show
and die on that hill, y'all go right ahead. But
that is not what f B means at all, not
even close. That'd be like saying this is what mother
efort means, Like, okay, what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
We know what motherfor means. It's the same difference.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
Like I just texted a word that I want you
to at your phone, and I want to type that
one and tell us what that one means exactly.

Speaker 11 (13:17):
And it's not going to tell you what you said
when you walked out the door. You said that, and
that's what you defined.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
That's what FB is. Yeah, Yes, that's what an FB is.
You're an f B. Oh my god.

Speaker 9 (13:32):
And I'm gonna use the word before I say it.
I don't have to use it between f B because
the F is already in f B, oh man. But
I'm gonna use F. I'm gonna go f F. Oh god,
that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Thank you, Thank you, Brady Quinn. If you weren't back,
we wouldn't have gotten that example, and the comparison is
one hundred percent spot on.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Well, for those of you wondering what F boy meant
in a seven game series, the big winners are it's
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Speaker 2 (14:36):
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Speaker 4 (14:51):
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That'll be yours here on Fox Sports Radio. So the
Dallas Mavericks have decided two games is enough for Cooper
Flag in the Summer League and that'll do it. So

(15:13):
Cooper Flagg who had a little kind of a rocky
start against the Lakers and his debut, but was fantastic
Saturday night against the Spurs, and the Mavericks are like, yeah, listen,
we're good here, all right. Two games, we give everybody
a little bit of a taste, We wet their beak,
so to speak.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
And Cooper Flag is.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Done for the Summer League, and now we just transition
over to preseason games apparently.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
I mean, as advertised, right from what we've seen so far,
So is there a need for him to play anymore?
Especially as no and we see more and more players
having these like soft tissue injuries and barely even doing anything.
You know, I'm not sure it makes a whole lot
of sense. I mean, he seems like he's going to
be the guy.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
It doesn't. It's it's a safe approach. There's no reason
to risk it. You get him a little bit of
game experience, a little action, and and then you shut
it down. I mean, there's nothing to be one or
to be lost outside of health in these types of situations.
He's not going to make or break his career in

(16:11):
this summer league. And and for what it's worth. I mean, look,
wm bin Yama didn't do the whole thing. He got
a little banged up, and they shut him down. It's
probably going to become a new trend to shut down
you know, high profile guys that go number one overall
in the draft. There's no reason to risk it. That

(16:31):
makes sense. Now, transitioning over to Lebron Jams. All right,
so is he playing summer league?

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Well he's not, but he was sitting court side and
he was you know, they tried to get his thoughts
on what he's saying. He didn't want to talk. He's
got he's got nothing to say. Yeah, he's got.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Wait why was he sitting courtside at a summer league game?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (16:52):
I think he was watching his son. Of course he
was watching. And that's one thing I was just saying.
It was Brownie playing. Uh yeah, I believe so. Yeah,
I mean it was over the week.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
I would assume that's why he was there, But I'll
be honest with you, not really not really into.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
The Summeryeah, he missed the game winning three Bronnie. Oh well,
A couple of quick comments.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Is that typical for a guy who makes the roster
as a rookie and then to come back and play
in the summer league the next year?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I think so it depends like if you're a G League,
if you're if you're like a G League guy, you
come back and play in the summer league. Yeah, is
that how you?

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Well, didn't how many games did Bernie play last year?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I mean, yeah, he was on the bench for like
all of them, wasn't he for most of them? I know,
I don't know how much he played. I know he
played in the G League, but they did have him
on the bench. I think he dropped like thirty eight
in a game in.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
The G League.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Well that was gonna be my question though, is like
how many games do you need to play in the
NBA versus the G League in a season to be
considered an NBA player.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
He played four NBA games in eighteen G League games.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Oh, okay, so that's that's he's a cheer league guy. Then, yeah,
he's definitely league. I don't I don't know how all
of that works in terms of how many games or
what you know, like do you do you log a
year or something like that.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
I don't know, but I'm not gonna say what what
professional hockey player I was talking to about this, but
I don't know that. At some point it came up.
We were talking about like whether or not a guy,
you know, played however many seasons in the NHL. He's like, well,
that season doesn't really count.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Like, well, why is that?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
He's like, well, he only you know, played however many
games in the NHL versus what the AHL, I believe
is their minor league system.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, and that, So that comment came out.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
I was like, Oh, that's interesting, because like the NFL
doesn't have anything like that really, right, I'm like, you
don't have like a minor league to go down to
and then bounce back up. So with baseball, hockey, basketball,
I'm sure they got the actual The pros look at
a lot different than you know, how I guess how
NFL players look at it.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
I mean, if you play in a game that should count.
I mean I would assume that that would be yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yeah, But I'm saying, like, does it count then because
he played FOURBA games, he's an NBA player because of
how you defined him last year?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
In the NFL, you've got to play what ten games
for it to be in a crude season.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Or is it you got to play? No, you just
have to be active for like three I think.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
Yeah, I don't even know for full So you have
to just dress for That's how it used to be.
You just have to dress for three games.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Well, I know this.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Lebron's probably not very thrilled. There was an article that
came out over the weekend on ESPN from Ramona Shelbourne
and Brian Wenthorse. The detailed sort of the transition from
Lebron's team in the Lakers to Luca's team, and there's
a whole bunch of decisions that have been made. There's
a whole bunch of conversations that they're having, not with Lebron,

(19:46):
but instead with Luca. They notified Luca of the change
in ownership, not Lebron, which would you know be why
Luca congratulated them on social media and not Lebron, and
there's just sort of this feeling that they're trying to
slowly drift away from Lebron James and making all these
moves without really running it by him, unlike other times

(20:11):
during his time with the Lakers and other organizations, And
it just feels like they're doing to Lebron what Lebron
did to so many people for so many years, and
they're just making moves, not running it by him, not
talking to him about it. You've got four teams reportedly
that have reached out about a potential trade for Lebron James.

(20:32):
People are kind of monitoring this situation because it does
feel like the balance of power is shifted. And we
are looking at the final year in LA for Lebron James,
who did pick up his player option of fifty three
million dollars.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
What do you guys fall on the scale of is
this like right or wrong? And how you treat one
of the greatest of all time?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Should you?

Speaker 6 (20:53):
Should they be factoring in his opinion what he thinks.
I mean, he's again one of the goats, and he's obviously,
you know, invested, he picked up the player option. He
wants to keep doing this. His son's there, so he's
got an even greater invested interest. I mean, is that
something that most fans feel like, Hey, he's a player,
but he is like the player like that guy, so

(21:14):
he should incorporate his opinion more than this.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
If it was Kobe, yes, but he's not Kobe's wise that.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Oh oh, that's interesting because it's it's interesting that you
say that because it's kind of how it played out
with Michael Jordan and Washington. They was like, we done
with you, my guy, like and it was he bought
the team went bought another one. Yeah, he went and
bought another one. But they kind of like played him

(21:41):
out in a way where it was like, you know,
don't treat don't treat him j that way. But they
didn't want I think again, and we had this conversation
about golf as well. I think once a team has
has come to the conclusion that they have no more
use for you and they want to move on from you,

(22:02):
it's up to them as to how they want to
handle the engagement. They can choose to be respectful or
be what would be considered to be professional, or you know,
maintain a relationship just because you're going to go in
a different direction doesn't mean you need to burn the
bridge of the relationship. And how you go about doing it.

(22:24):
Some people don't care about detonating those bridges, some people do.
So I think that it's like case by case, and
it seems as though, however it's played out behind the
scenes here in LA with Lebron James. It just seems
as though the way people are depicting it is if
they're tired of his act, like they have run tired,

(22:48):
that the tread is thin on the tire of dealing
with whatever it is they have to deal with as
it applies to the demands that are connected to them. Now.
I don't know how true that is, but it just
seems though that's kind of the narrative that is being
pushed out there as it applies to Lebron.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
But he brought them a championship. Yeah, he did a
bubble and he brought them a bubble boy championship. I
see Jonas, I see where you're going.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Yeah, And let me ask you this, how would you
at this moment if he's done with the Lakers, he
ends up going somewhere else, like maybe back to the East,
which I do think playing in the West, he's probably
realized how much more difficult it is for Western Conference
teams in the NBA to make the finals, versus what
are you experience in the East. Is that a fair
statement to make?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
I think that's been probably the case the entirety of
his career, and it's one of the reasons why I've
never been a huge advocate for the like, well, look
how many NBA finals he went to. It's like, well, okay,
but we're kind of still in the same mode where
if you look at the East, there's Boston, like Miami's
kind of traditionally there, there's a few like Cleveland now
has been a team that has risen back up to

(23:57):
be extremely competitive, great in the regular season, a team
we tell talk about. Obviously, Indiana made it this year.
I think that was a surprise. If people are going
to try to tell me that you predicted that before
the season, you're full of it. But we look at
the East I think generally as a much weaker side
or weaker conference compared to the West. So I just
think if you look back on the tenure with the Lakers,

(24:18):
it feels like it probably really wasn't what everyone had
signed up for. I mean, hell, if you go back
to the Miami Heat, as successful as they were, it's
sure as hell wasn't all the championships he talked about
when he was out in stage and not two, not three,
not four, not five.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I mean that was where his awards, not mine. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
So I think the interesting thing about this and when
it first hit me where this transcends any professional sport,
Like when Peyton Manning has the neck injury.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Right, who would already won a Super Bowl with the Colts.
He was already a Hall of.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Famer at that point in his career, and yet they
didn't want to wait to see what was on the
other side. And so they suck and they go draft
Andrew Luck and they choose that path. And then Peyton
Manning goes to Denver and probably plays the best football
he's ever played in his career, wins another Super Bowl,
by the way, in a year that he wasn't even

(25:16):
playing his best, but ultimately went to one where he
was having record setting years. Like I think, if you
look at his best years, could you not throw the
what three years after that in Denver up against any
three he had in Indianapolis? And say they're probably better. Yeah,
it was like at that moment when you're talking about
NFL royalty and a guy who had you know again,
I thought had a ton of equity with the Indianapolis
Colts organization when they were willing to be like patient

(25:40):
on him and see that, And I was still playing
at the time, so it like it hit me like
a brick thinking.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Dang, like that's that's pay pay. Like if that's how they're.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Going to handle him, then anybody like yeah, everyone else
is like you're nothing good. You're like that little gnat
at a summer barbecue that keeps kind of bothering.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You know, I get out of here, let me get
away from the food. What is Lebron Aimes continuing on for?
And then that that, like, let's build from there. What
is he?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
What is his motivation at this point to continue playing?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Well?

Speaker 4 (26:10):
He, I mean it's probably like any great player, they'll
find something to motivate himself. Because if I'm Lebron, I
look at this and go, Okay, so you want this
guy to be the face of the franchise. Now I've
already picked up my player option, so I'll play this
year either with you or not with you, and then
I think he's gonna absolutely play a second year. I
think this locked him in for two years as a
prove it.

Speaker 12 (26:29):
Run.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Now I'm gonna prove it. What is he proving.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Prove that they shouldn't have handed the keys of He
got a dose of his own medicine, and so now
it's an opportunity for him to show them, Okay, you're
gonna go with that guy over me.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Watch.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
I don't think he goes out trying to play second
fiddle to to to Luca.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Or anything with the Lakers. I just I don't think
he does. Where do you fall on a que why
you think he's continuing versus.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
I mean, maybe maybe part of it is his legacy
and wanting to try to win, going out on top,
you know, I think for all the greats, right, that's
how you'd like to finish. Maybe it's that maybe it's
still building up stats that are never going to be
able to be broken. You know, some of the some
of the numbers he's surpassed, we probably thought, you know,

(27:22):
they were never gonna be broken before he got in
the league, and so I'm sure he's thinking, like with
the way these athletes training are now. Yeah, maybe it's
much more likely that a guy can play as long
as he is, So maybe it's that. Maybe it's Bronnie,
And if Bronnie's not brought back to the Lagers, he's
gonna be lobbying hard to get him on with another team,
another roster. They can keep that that storyline going within

(27:44):
the NBA, or even just for Bronnie's development and Lebron
as his father looking out for him.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
You know, I think it could be any of those.
I don't know, it's hardy.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
We had the conversation of ring chasing, like ring chase
seeing culture. That was something that hit social media. It
was being discussed large, large discussions surrounding If you look
at the teams that would be interested in Lebron James
and the teams that Lebron James will be interested in,

(28:14):
you gotta believe Cleveland they are one one player away
from being a team that could possibly In fact, they
could not be one player away. They could possibly be
a team that could win the championship.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Now with all the injuries in the East, I think they.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Dealt with something like we talked about Buddy's tow and
you know, and and then you just had a few
guys that were were getting banged up for Cleveland, but
largely that that's a team that could do it. Lebron's
looking at that team. To me, I think the reason
why Lebron James continues to play it's not for stats,

(28:52):
because he's got the stats. The one thing that you'll
hear Michael Jordans say, I didn't play for the stats.
I played for the rings. And the one thing that
he is close to but not quite there is the
six rings. He's two away from six, He's three away
from out doing six, two and a half away from six.

(29:14):
I mean you could call it that. I mean, I'm
gonna give it to him. He's two away. So to me,
you're going to try to find a team because he
still plays well enough where you're not going to sit
there and say he's stealing he's stealing rings.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
He's just he's still like a top ten player.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
So I believe, if we're being honest here, what's keeping
him going? As you mentioned, what's his motivation to not
be an FB to Michael Jordans is to go out
there and get a couple more rings.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
I would use that term.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Can I actually throw this in the fact that we
are debating still about that championship. I mean, I do
think was a Lou Williams who got kicked out, suspended
because of the Lemon Pepper Wings and he broke quarrants.
I mean, if guys are prioritizing the Lemon Pepper Wings
over over over actual playing and champions yeah, it's kind

(30:11):
of a bad mess.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
They're supposed to be great. Yeah I heard they're really good. Yeah,
like they're supposed to.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
I'm not doubting that. I'm just saying, like what matters more,
apparently wins there was a little bit more connected to
the Lemon Pepper Wings.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
And also, if if Lebron were to go to the
Lakers and be like camp, if Lebron were to be
bubble Bubbley, Yeah, if Lebron were to go to the
Lakers and be like, hey, so you guys, you guys
didn't run run this by me. You're the Lakers should
just be like, dude, you made us drafter Son. We're
good here, all right, our debts are paid off. We're
good here. We're all square. We're going to do what's

(30:50):
best for us. You go do what's best for you.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
By the way should be noted.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Since he's gotten to the Lakers, all right, now, would
you agree that it's been a success.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
Well, that's what I would ask, is like, is it
because if you don't include the championship, how do you
view it?

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Okay, they went to the Western Conference Finals once, they
missed the playoffs twice.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
They lost in the first round with Luka Donjits on
their team, and they lost in the first round three times.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
So since he's been there, missed the playoffs twice, lost
in the first round of the playoffs three times, Bubble Championship,
Western Conference Finals.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I don't know that. I think I think if you're
one of those people, and I'm sure.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
The Lakers you know, fanboys, would be like, no, of
course he brought us a championship. I think most people
would look at it and say it was not probably
what they thought when when Lebron went to the Lakers,
as far as the consistent success that they would have. So,
by the way, he is going to make about fifty
two point six million this year. One of the problems
I think too with NBA players in regards to why

(31:55):
I would keep playing is if you just contrast that
with like Tom Brady, who is making more working at
Fox than he made probably in any one given season,
or maybe there was one or two where it was
competitive with that. And I know the numbers have gone
up for NFL players, but most of them, I think

(32:17):
most are not going to be paid the same way
you will be once you're done playing. So if you
can get it, Like if someone if they're going to
sign you to a contract and you get fifty three
million a year, I'm sorry, Like, people can argue with
me all you want. They no player is going to
make as much as they're making while playing in the league.
That's just that's just a fact. And so if you

(32:38):
can milk that, like and people say, oh, he's already
made a ton of money. He's got so much money,
he's gonna be a billionaire, It's like, how many billionaires
do you know that don't want more money? Yeah, if
they're a billionaire, they want to have two billion, you
know what I'm saying, Like, I just that's human nature.
Like I don't know anyone who goes and eats a
steak at Ruth Chris and goes I want to go
back to ponder Rosa or Hey, I want Ryan's steakhouse.

(32:59):
Like I actually like the buffer A and the little
you know, soft serve machine. There's no going, there's definitely
no So it's like it's a it's a lifestyle thing.
It's a quality of life thing. And it's it's never enough.
Like if there's one thing I've kind of learned is
that that's human nature, man Like, it's it's never enough.
Once you change your habits for a while, it's really

(33:19):
hard to break them.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Got that FB cooking and Ponderosas you got some real
goons back there, and and and that that gut dang
Ruth Chris, and and Capitol.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Grill there is in California. Lead. Do you know if
there's a Ponderosa he's never even heard of heard of it.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
How about Ryan steak outs over here? Those I think
those are bankrupt now they're gone.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Out Back Steakhouse, that's like a level up out back.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Out Back would be like the next leveling up. Chris,
Honduosa wings were phenomenal, Yeah, phenomenal them a little many
many wings.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, they had good food. I'm not I'm just saying it.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
And their steaks were good, they were chargrilled, they were
you know, they had the little butter on them and stuff.
They were good, and a little baked potato that went
with it. I mean it was a good, good little dish.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
I got so sick one time and I threw up
all this ponderous steak. It was one of those like
weak moments in high school where you're like peer pressured
by you know, maybe some older players when you're like
young and you're playing up and I was like, this
is awful, but just threw up everywhere. That's crazy ponderous steak.

(34:39):
Forget in California. Yeah, Apple Valley and Idle World.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Why did you hit that up?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Lead?

Speaker 4 (34:46):
The problem is you got to go to Apple Valley.
I wonder if they still serve bridded pudding. They had
britted pudding for it for their dessert and it was
really good.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, it was really good.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
You guys should all go yeah to Apple Valley. I'm
I don't go out to eat with fb's. I got
family out there too, eat with Lee. I don't know, man,
I don't know. That might have run its course in
New Orleans. He might he might have messed up. This
is how they say it these days, like.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
What we call Trisha on break q oh yeah, she
didn't want to say it. She was trying to like
be polite, like she's like, I don't want like I have,
like I don't want to get like I got the words,
but I don't want like just say, what's the first
thing that comes to mind? And she said, uh, cat,

(35:37):
you know a T. It's a C A T. You
know the slang version of it.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Wait, Lee, how old are you? I forget thirty six,
I forget.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Like we're four years apart, and you're gonna like pull
the age card.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I'm telling you how kids say nowadays? Is I don't
use it? Are you hanging out with kids high school?

Speaker 11 (35:58):
I'm putting you up on game of saying, how the.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
That's a fine, that's a fine, well play, that's a fine.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
F bees need not a og. Saturday's easterns bra unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
The right is sitting there uncomfortable, like, hey, listen, Lea's right,
Leea is right.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I use the word that way, Breeze hit me up.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
I used it like three listeners in my inbox too.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, you know what that's there's probably they're probably have bees.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
That's that's it.

Speaker 10 (36:33):
Slash agreed with you are, but they did say it's
a generational thing.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
They they're old sling blade who sends you all the
prizes and packages.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Oh no, no, let's not talking about That's not verbal champ.
It's not talking aboutnyone's in boxes. Let's just let's just
all right. He's jumping the.

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Speaker 12 (37:54):
YouTube after your sports weekend happens. So it's time to
get the fsr IR report. All right, Lee, what do
you got?

Speaker 11 (38:12):
I came out pretty all right, I went, uh yeah,
I came out good. I made a little trip this
weekend up to Santa Barbara watch a concert. My buddy
got ripped and had to pass out in the back
of the jeep, and uh, so I came out all right.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
It sounds like an F boy.

Speaker 11 (38:25):
Yeah, he is an F boy actually, and uh and
then I forgot my charger.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Up there, so there you go.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Oh gosh, we just had a whole conversation door to
take a comment. I'm just calling everybody, anybody who's younger, generational, cultural,
whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Man, FB is an FB. You are what you are? Anyway?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
What a debate? I bet you Loraina has an IR do?
I I don't know. I was I was assuming.

Speaker 7 (38:53):
Oh my gosh, I did hand wash my car this weekend.

Speaker 10 (38:56):
And there are water spots everywhere, like hard water spots. Whoa, whoa,
I gotta take it to actually get washed tomorrow because.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
You didn't get any assistance from your FB next to you.

Speaker 9 (39:07):
Oh dang, dang, dang. Yeah, invite them all over. I mean, wow,
how many bees doesn't take.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
To wash a car? I will I will tell a
quick story.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
So we are vacationing with my my sister and her kids,
and my dad's with us as well. You know, he
wears hearing aids and so in the morning time he
doesn't have them in so it's it's I mean, he
can't hear anything. Well, obviously we shot the show start
to show at six am Eastern. There's a pinball machine
because there's like a little game room, and I just

(39:44):
hear this pinball machine going off left and right. I'm like, oh,
one of the kids must have got up early because
it's right next to the kids room. No, it's my
seventy six year old dad. He's trying to set the
record on this pinball machine. I'm like, all the kid's
gonna be starting to wake up. It's going to create
chaos everywhere. But you can't understand how loud it is

(40:05):
because he doesn't have the hearing aids.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
And that's got to be a beautif Chopper for man,
I don't want to hear what people have to say.
I just want people to hear me. Yeah, Chopper playing pinballs,
Chopper baby bing, bing, bing bing,
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