September 17, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You could hear me?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah? You heard what I was?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It something about smells the trash stinks? Really, why do
you want that to go over there? I thought I
can't smell it. No, yeah, I can't. Oh, I had
no idea, not.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
A lice salved Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I told him just to take the whole trash out
of there for you.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I mean, if you got some lice sauce spray, that
would be great.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Lee. Why are you pissed me? No, I didn't know.
All right, Well we're off and running here. By the way,
what is happening?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
What you guys just talked about was clear, like clear,
there's a stench in the and and uh I tried
to be very you know, kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Discreet. Yeah, yeah, discrete. It is what I was looking. Okay,
what's the stretch? Lee?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
No, is something coming from the trash?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
This is bad? Lee? Bad about it?
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Now?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Lee spran like in the studio, but was like pissed
off about He goes, I know, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I have no idea to do it. Lee.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Put whatever that is and into the trash.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh no, all right, were you drinking?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Lee? Oh? Okay, that's a yes.
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Speaker 5 (02:57):
All right, tis the scene Abody called me dumbes rocks
yesterday on your social So I guess I mean they
take those comments and bring them to your your social
page as well. You know, I don't know. I mean
people be having their comments and stuff like you ask
right here, you're solicited for it. They do it on
your your page show page. Yeah yeah, the Jonas Knock
(03:19):
Show page. Yeah yeah, I don't know. Man. I thought
that was interesting how he collaborated, uh, two pros and
a cup.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Of Joe with the Jonas Knock Show yesterday, you know,
or all the family.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I thought that was interesting. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, we
are all the family here, I can dig it. Okay,
speaking of families, you got two and o's and twos,
they they go together?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What a there? You go? All right?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So it tis the season uh two and oh zero
and two starts. The percentages would say, if you're owing
to good luck, what is the eleven point two something
something percent make the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And then if you're.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Talking that's actually eleven percent three?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, I mean we're splitting airs here, all right, So
teams are going too. Yeah, there's there's two and oh
teams as well too in the NFL. All right, So
who wants to start best and worst? Two and oh
zero and two teams in the NFL? Who wants to
start first? Who wants to fire away?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
You?
Speaker 8 (04:20):
I mean I think that low higgen Fruits probably Kansas City, right,
I think we don't agree they're own too, but they're
probably the best and two team, right, or that they're
the team that you would say right now, if I
had to bet money to make the playoffs, they could
still make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That O and two?
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (04:36):
I mean especially helps considering the Burrow injury with the Bengals. That's,
you know, a team that we're probably not looking at
as a playoff team.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
So that's that's helpful.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
The only other thing I'd say, though, is history has
not been kind to Kansas City, but this has been
the case. I believe the last time they started off
two it was like twenty fourteen that they had going
nine and seven and missing the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean, I would also say Houston is another zero
and two team. It's got a shot just based on
the divisions.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Those are the two I was looking at Kansas.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Because it kind of correlates with what some people think
might be a fraudulent TO and O team like Indianapolis,
And so if that's the case, they're in the same division,
maybe we could see the table turn. But Houston just
hasn't looked. They just have They haven't looked the same
since CJ. Stroud's rookie year. And so that's my only
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hesitation there. So I would say, yeah, Kansas City, I'll
take my chances with Patrick Mahomes and you know those guys,
and to figure it out with Andy Reid that Kansas
City would be the low hanging fruit there.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
The sad thing is, since you guys gave the obvious
two teams that are the best oh and two teams,
I'm gonna give the most fraudulent OH and two teams, the.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
New York Giants.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Fraudulent fraud They're fraudulent because I thought that they would
be better than oh and two, and they were close,
they were close to getting the DUB.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
I don't know if that fits fraudulent.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Fraudulent, yes, because to me, they were supposed to be
a better team than what they've shown thus far. That's fraudulent.
The Jets after that first game, they're fraudulent. They're fraudulent
OH and two team. I thought that that's who they are, right,
I think they could have been a competitive team that
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first game out. One could say that they maybe should
have won that game against Pittsburgh. You know, you get
a fumbled on the kickoff, you get some just some
unfortunate happenings that lead to you losing that game, and
then you go out and you lay an egg in
week two, you're fraudulent. I'm just saying two most fraudulent
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oh and two teams to me, the Jets and the Giants,
because I think I had the Giants contending fighting for
a second place in the issue now maybe third to third.
I think I had them bringing up the third and
Dallas being last. Dallas looks much better than than.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Than the Giants do. So anyway, I think they're fraudulent.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
See I was actually gonna use the word fraudulent for
the next question is which team that's two and oh
is fraudulent?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Which you brought up one?
Speaker 8 (07:24):
I think most people would agree the Colts probably won't
be able to continue this Is that fair to say.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, it could be fraudul Indiana Jones, Come on.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
Arizona, how about this one? Three teams at the NFC
West are two of O, San Free, Arizona.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
All fraudulent, law not La not La, not l A,
but Arizona and Seattle fraudulent.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
So early case for best division of football. I mean
every single team is over five hundred or five hundred
or over.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yes, I don't know. I mean this is where you
should take your victory. Live LaVar. You said Arizona was
gonna be a team to deal with. They could be fraudulent.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I mean they really tried to give away that game
to Carolina. They tried their damn. I mean, they're so
impressive that they couldn't even lose that game.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
They have had the propensity of breaking down and not
being what they needed to be all the way through
the season. But I do have them winning the West.
I do believe. I think I did have them winning
the West. I just don't. I don't believe in I
don't know that it's sustainable here in LA for the Rams.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I am not a believer.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I believe the San Francisco forty nine ers are fraudulent.
While they got a quality win in Week one, I
guess you could say against Seattle because Seattle went and
beat beat Pittsburgh, which means that I mean, maybe they're
they're not as bad as I thought they are, but
or were. But I mean you literally almost lost to
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the Saints, and I had the Saints beating them, which,
by the way, I think clearing it up. I think
you can money line. I think I think that got
cleared up by some betters yesterday, right that you can
money line.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Up, var LeVar, you can't, okay, all right, Yes you
can money line a favorite, Okay, but in betting terms,
your return is not.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Going to be as good.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
And also, if you're if you're picking between spreads and
money line, if you've got a favorite, well then that
team is favored to win.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Right.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
So for you to sit there and say like, oh,
I'm gonna take a favorite money line and they're laying
six and a half points, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
But because on the on the other side.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You still kill someone else. No.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
I mean theoretically in betting, but not in our game.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
No, okay, oh no, all right, you can only.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Money line underdogs.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think you do whatever you want LeVar.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You know what, Thanks thanks Jonas, Thank you, k I.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Think even Jonas would have an issue.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
All all of the aggression that is coming from from
Brady Quinn right now is unwarranted and unnecessary.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
I would say, Jonas, hold on, we've got to I mean,
if that's what we're doing, I'm money lining every favorite
from here on out of every NFL game.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
If that's how we're playing this.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We would have to half point it. We'd have to
give half points.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, half point I'm not money lining anything. I'm going
against the spread the entire year. I'm gonna make it
easy on Lee, Okay, all right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I don't mind making it harder on lady Woa. All
you gotta do is put in LeVar at promo code.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
After the endow.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Put into LeVar for what.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Your promo code at the end of your purchase.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
You need to reread that to make sure that's that's
the case, or do that have to spend five dollars
for shipping.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You gotta spend five dollars for shipping?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Can I make a Can I make a Can I
make a case for most fraudulent team in the league?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's two and zero? Who is it? The Bengals? Okay?
All right?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Would you have said that if Burrow is still healthy?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
No? But here, how can they be most fraudile? Okay?
And here's why they should have lost to the Browns
week one.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
They could have lost to the brown They.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Should have lost to the Jaguars last week.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
They could have lost to the jag Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And they're without their quarterback and he ain't coming back
anytime soon. This isn't like a And then if you
go over to the Niners on the other side of things,
who also are dealing with the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
They're the most fraudulent of them all.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But but not really if you think about the fact
that there's not that much of a step down from
brock Purty to mac Jones if anything, And they've just
won a game with mac Jones as their starter. George
Kittle is going to come back. It's not a long
term in he's dealing more fraudulent and barely beat New
Orleans and their schedule war works in their favor.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
San Francisco's going to the playoffs. That's going to be
a playoff team. Since take that bet, I don't miss
they're going to miss the playoffs. They're going to miss
the playoffs. They're going to finish third. They're going to
finish third in their division, and they're going to miss
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
It's going to be Arizona in l A that come
out out of the West.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Oh, you gotta be careful.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Forty Niners fans get very upset when you start making
accusations like comparing brock pretty to back Jones.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I don't know, and I don't know why. Who cares?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
It's weird they're sensitive about it?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Who cares? What is it? Like? Why do people get
so worked up over this? You know it's all they got? Man?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Okay, so some some people have their teams. I mean,
I feel like there's bigger issues positive. But that's fine,
all right. Let me I'm going to try and find
uh to make the playoffs. Odds here because you're saying
the Niners aren't going to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They're not, Okay, they're not.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
You really don't think that they have been a very
easy schedule.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, I don't think they're going to go really no,
all right, No, I think it's a matter of time
before the fall off takes place. Matter of time. I
just believe that for them this year. I'm sorry, I mean,
I'm not one to leave. Yeah, I just I'm just
going to stand on it. Stand ten toes down ten toes. Yeah, well,
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extra credit, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So the Niners to not make the playoffs, all right, Brady,
If you had to, if you had to guess what
the yes or no odds are on.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
DraftKings right now for the Niners, what would you say?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
I would say the odds are that they're going to
make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
What would you say the lion is on that?
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Ummm, they're probably a minus.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Two hundred a minus three twenty.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Take that back, cats and take that bet, so LeVar,
If to not make the playoffs on DraftKings, the Niners
are a plus two fifty.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Take that bet. A take that. Take that bet.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
They're gonna sticks sticks picks.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Take that bet, boom that that money might rat for you.
I feel positive about your money rating for you. Take
that bet. I'm telling you so.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
Let me ask this, do we feel most solidified in Philly,
Green Bay, Tampa Bay?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
We feel about Tampa.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
Could have lost to Atlanta, could have lost to Atlanta,
and you could have made the case they should have lost.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Who they just play Houston, they.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Could have lost both. They're the two and O two
that could easily.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
Be owing to Yeah, probably more so than even Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But having Carolina New Orleans in your division, I think
kind of makes it, you know, less obstacles, uh to
make a run there. And and also both those games
are on the road, so they'd yet to play a
home game yet. And so I feel like I'm confident
in Tampa Bay, even though I did not think much
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of them going into the season. I picked Atlanta. I'm
confident in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
But they definitely did have to fight to get that
dub at the end of that game, both dubs.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it took a best kick, Yeah, would.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah, you know, I'm not going to say they're fraudulent.
I think that they have a nice setup to be
able to win the South. I just don't see Atlanta
standing up, even though they got a nice win this week.
I don't see them standing up and being that team,
(15:43):
all right, So.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
I just think I want to see Baker Mayfield in
the playoffs. I just want to see him. I love
the intensity, I love how he plays. Man, he's a player,
all right.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
So worst zero and two team.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Foul, it's gonna be tides, right, Whens?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I feel like it's Carolina, Thanks, thanks, Lorenda, And that
one will never sound right to me?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Ever, Lorada, don't you pot it down play the entire
thing just because you got embarrassed the.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
End.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
You got to play the end?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Whens?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
When's all.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
That's not lee for that end?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Say?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
How do you edit that? By the way, how did
you get it to sound like that?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah? How many takes for that?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It was pretty fast. Right now he's done? Whoa, yeah,
lots of takes? Wait what was there stuff? Oh yeah,
there's a lot. WHOA. Well, let's get I mean, let's
do it. What are we waiting on? I did the
clip right, I didn't expect you guys.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I want what Lorena's outtakes from the Quinn's winds imaging.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Who wouldn't want that? Quinn's wins? Whoa? That was horrible?
What else? Whoa? You just play It's about a minute whoa.
Oh so awkward? Whoa Quinn's wins? That was weird. I
don't like that one at all. Oh gosh, it's wins.
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Whoa wins? Whoa? That sounds weird. I feel weird because
it's Brady.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So hot right now? Isn't that an old drop from him?
Cracks me up? Now he's done. That's enough.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
That's enough, that's enough, that's enough.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Let's move on. Let's move on. That's why let's move on.
All right, that's enough.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
That's why I throw the line right here.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Jonas, Oh my gosh, no, that's where you draw the line.
You get any place work? You know where to go? Dang,
all right, all storm out, I'm out here.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Lee's when.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Don't get up?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Second veto was involved.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Tangle. That's kind of funny. Actually, that's actually that's kind
of a really funny dig Right there, He's done.
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So Clemson has been a little bit of a disappointment
so far this season. They lose to Georgia Tech over
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the weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
My guy popped off, didn't he.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
They are one and two and davoswiney he has heard
the complaints and he had this to say.
Speaker 11 (20:59):
If they won't be going, if they tired of winning,
they can send me on the way, because that's all
we've done is win. So if they tired of winning,
we've had We've won this league eight out of.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
The last ten years.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Is that not good? I'm just asking is that good?
I don't know if that's good or not? To win
your league eight out of ten years to go to
playoffs seven out of ten years, being four national championships,
went twice. Yeah, we little down right. Now take your shots.
But I got a long memory case y'all don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We'll be all right. We'll bounce back.
Speaker 11 (21:23):
This is a program built to last, always has been,
always will be. And I would just say, if you
give up on us, if you don't believe on us,
because we've lost two games down to the last trade
and we're wanting.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
You didn't believe in us anyway, so it don't matter.
You wasn't all in anyway. If you all in, you
burn the ships.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Man.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
There ain't no exit strategy like you're freaking all in.
And hey listen, I meanson's tired of winning. They send
me on my way, but I'm gonna go somewhere else,
And coach, I ain't going to the beach.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Hell, I'm fifty five. I got a long way to go.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Y'all gonna have to deal with me.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
For a while.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I had a long way to go. I'm just getting going.
Speaker 11 (21:59):
I'm just now good enough to be a head coach.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
There you go, flex, there you go.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean alone, he's not wrong.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Seven out of the last ten years made the playoffs,
flex on eight of ten, won the conference. Flex thirteen
of the last fourteen years he's won double digits, so
ten or more games. The exception of that was twenty
twenty three where they went nighted four. This is somewhere
in the territory of like the Ryan Day, Ohio State
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fan based conversation. So many programs and schools they'll want
to fire these guys, and you know what they end
up doing. They end up spending the next decade or
more trying to find that exact same guy they would
have killed four. So Clemson fans, I get it. This
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is not the start of the season that you wanted.
By the way, last year wasn't the start of the
season that you wanted. You went nighted three, you end
up winning your con to go to the playoff.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I get it.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
You still want the conference, you still went to the
playoff that they still have very much of an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
To do that.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
It's a one to two football team that has not
played its best football. You don't want to play your
best football right now. You want to play your best
football in November December, heading into the playoff.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
The teams that get hot are the.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
Teams that end up ultimately playing for the national championship.
That was Ohio State without a doubt last year, And
then you're gonna be making the case that was not
to day.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You can't make that case, Like I'll go.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
To the other side of that conversation. Like we've already
talked about Notre Dame this week. But you know, if
you look at some of these teams that have losses
and the fan bases are panicking, the fan base is
what these coaches fired? They just started the season. Do
you think up ending a coaching staff or a head coach,
whatever the case may be, do you think it's a
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good idea for these players?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Like, then, what do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
You're gonna have someone else start over called the defense,
you know, to someone else start over as the head coach.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
How do you think that's gonna go? To me?
Speaker 8 (24:05):
It's always unbelievable, Like literally, it's almost impossible for me
to comprehend how fans get like this so early into
a season. And yet you literally watched the team last
year in Ohio State, they lost Oregon, they got beat
down by mission.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
At the end of the year, went on a hot
run win a national.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Championship, and they turned right back around and they'll complain
about something the following year.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
It's wild man.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
And so let me just point out one thing real quick,
because this is we haven't got to it. I'm pretty
sure we're not gonna get to it based on how
our rundowns have gone. But you know, coaches have already
been fired. Brett Prye, former DC at Penn State. Levardo's
a well Averrggia tack.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
He's gone.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
You can look at a situation like that and you say, well,
why do they fire him so early in the season.
To Sean Aster, head coach at UCLA, why is he
fired so early into the season. He got a year
and then some games, handful of games, not even well
the reasons this. There's a thought with some of those
places that it gets twofold. A lot of the players,
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you know, if they want an opportunity to go somewhere else,
they can. So if you if you do it before
week four of college football, those kids who've played can
still made tatter Redsha a year.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
If they have one. So that's what spind of thought. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
The other thought is they want to get to jump
on the next head coaching search, and they want to
get that person in place as soon as possible because
they haven't changed the transfer portal windness. They haven't changed
their early sidting period. So not only do you have
to deal with the rest of the season, which is
all you know, you know, foregone conclusion, at this point,
you're already starting to find that next guy, to build
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a staff, to get the recruits not only in high
school but also the college level, et cetera. So that's
all expediting this entire process, which means there's even more
of a need for changing the college football calendar of
the transfer portal windows. So we're not looking at, you know,
putting so much pressure on these coaches where they if
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they don't win out of the gate, then all of
a sudden, you know, they got to move on, which
UCLA And I think you'd admit, for anyone who watched
the second half of last year, they got better. That
was a better team last year in the second half
of the first half the season, So you know, it
isn't unfortunate it was Deshaun Foster or the right guy
for you. Still I don't know, I mean, I don't
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think he had enough time. I could, I could honestly
say that Brett Priyant Virginia Tech.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
I mean, if those guys don't get four years to
get their entire you know, class of recruits in and develop,
et cetera, how do you really know? But this is
the society we live in now. We don't get the
results we went right away. We just want to move on.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Brent Prie is a fine coach man. He'll he'll land
on his feet, uh DeShawn. I don't really know too
much about his coaching pedigree. I know him as a
player and I know him as as a man. He's
a dope dude as a man, great family man, those kids.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I know this because that was.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
One of man's uh final schools that that he looked at.
So I got some extensive time with him and the
coaching staff on campus. The coaches and the players alike
really respected him, like at a very very high level.
Anytime I've ever been around you know, coach coach Brent
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Brent Pride, He's always been a very well respected person
by by his by his coaching staff, and by his players.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
And I feel like that's if the players, if the
players ride.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
With you and they believe in you.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
To me, that that's the biggest that's the biggest taiale
of the tape is what's the respect factor for you
as a person.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And if people.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Admire you when you're not around, and they respect you
and they have great things to say about you when
you're not around, that speaks volumes to me of the
person that you are. Then comes to conversation of how
does that translate into being the coach that you need
to be? And I feel like that's always going to
be the most complex question to answer because there's so
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many different ways to gauge and measure what being a
successful coach is. You know, the interesting thing is there's
so many times that everything is based off of winning
and losing. I was just watching a clip on coach
Paterno just randomly popped up on my algorithm, but was
(28:48):
watching a video on him, and what it really made
me think about and what it really made me feel
is and coming into this topic is that the one
thing that people don't pay attention to and it doesn't
resonate with them because generally speaking, they only care when
you're forced to care. Is the development of these young men.
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And if you have a coach that is graduating his players,
if you have a coach that is teaching his players
how to tie a tie, put on a suit, make
sure that they're presentable for a job interview, make sure
that they're on time, not only for doing things that
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are athletic, but making sure you're on time for class.
There's a rule with Penn State players where when they
check on you, you should be there early enough to be
sitting in the front of the class. No matter how
big the class is. It doesn't matter if it's two
hundred or if it's twenty. You guys should be there
early enough to be sitting in the front of the class.
(29:57):
So when we're making these judgments about these co and
what they don't do and how they don't win, and
it becomes so much about winning and losing, I find
it to be kind of interesting the dichotomy between how
we view these coaches and what they're tasked to do
at the college level as it applies to wins and losses.
(30:19):
When we start to get into conversations like the nil
Like when we start to get into conversations like these
kids being treated as professionals rather than being treated as students.
Because if you're looking at it from a true perspective
of treating them like students, then some of these coaches
that people call for you don't have to go any
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further than the conduct of the players that they have
and what their accomplishments are on and off the field.
That would give you a really really warm and happy,
happy feeling about what's taking place there.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
But that doesn't matter, right.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
All that matters is in the end, if you win,
if you lose, And sometimes I feel like, you know
that gets lost.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I throw it out there.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, it's almost like, uh, the game has changed to
where it's no longer but it's just, uh, are you winning?
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
We need immediacy, We need results right away. And you know,
on the Davos Swinny thing. The reason the Davos Swinny stuff,
because we've talked about it, James Franklin. Fans that don't
appreciate James Franklin in the success he's.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
They love to hate James ro just rip Angele, the
coach that that was before Joe Paternal He just tied
him on on on the wins list.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But I mean, I could on a small level. Understand, well,
you know, they've seen national championships with Joe Paterno, Ryan Day,
They've seen success there with Irvin Meyer, and at the
program like Clemson's never had an era anywhere close to this,
like every not even close. They won one national title
(31:58):
and I think eighty one. Other than that, they've never
like they've never sniffed this before.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And here we are.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
They've got off to a slow start, and it's already like, well,
there's got to be a change. If Daboswiney was on
the open market, he would get hired in twenty minutes,
like he like, they would hire him immediately some other programs.
So it just it feels like it's become big business
now and there's a lot more voices outside of just
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the fanatical fan bases of these programs that are making decisions.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
And you know, I know, way more complex. You got
the transfer portal. Now it's just you got the nil money.
It is way more complex to start over with the
coaching staff than it's ever been ever. That is a
that is a very very big decision when you let go.
(32:52):
Now if it's a new coach, that's that's a little
bit different. But you talk about an institutional type of
coach like it Dabo Sweeney, Good luck with that. Look
at what's going on with Alabama. They are going to
have their hands full trying to figure out post post
Nick saban Era.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
There. Oh, they would hire Dabo Swiney.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Well, there you go. He played for Alabima, Yes he did.
Like he played for Gen Installings. They would hire him
up immediately if that was the case, like to bring
him in.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
So yeah, I just it's going.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
To be difficult to feel positions of guys who have
been institutions pillars to some of these programs, and people
are going to find out the things that you wish for.
You gotta be careful sometimes stuff you wish for because
you just might get it.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
There's be a lot of people who disagree with this.
Maybe you guys disagree with it.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I also think this is a small piece of like
the influence of social media. We're like everything we see
in life is like the best of with that person.
It's it's success, it's when it gets the best of everything.
It's like you don't see those moments of despair, those
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moments of you know, heartache, tragedy, or how much it
took to get to the success or how much it
took to climb that mountain.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I think that's a byproduct.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Of this, where like fans have an unrealistic expectation because one,
none of these especially young.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
People know history like no one, no one reads history.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
And then the other portion of it is they don't
face that sort of adversity to then get them to
understand like what it takes. And so even for a
program like Clemson, you know, if this was you know,
one of those years where maybe they take a step back, okay,
like it only builds for the next season for a
number of those players who are coming back. And you
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can make that case for a bunch of programs Alabama
to get off to as hard as a start as
they wanted to.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Now they look like they're you know, right back in
and now. But you know, same thing for Notre Dame.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
You're sitting there too right now, all right, So so
what like go try to take one game of a time,
see where you get by the end of the season.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Like no one said it's gonna be easy.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
And that's the problem is that it almost feels like
everyone feels like it's just supposed to go. How the
script is supposed to go. It's it's kind of it's
wild to be. But if Klemston we were to move
on from Dabo, Sweetie, it would be maybe the greatest
mistake ever made by a school of college football history,
(35:31):
Like it would for sure be up there. I'm trying
to think of others, but this one sticks out more
than any of the right now.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, I can't think of anybody else as far
as like, there's been some questionable firings. We've brought up,
you know, Nebraska Bopolini a bunch of times, but yeah,
nothing to where a coach has had this much success.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
No, I don't think anything.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Anytime a coach that's had this much success leaves on
his own, he flexed on.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He makes a decision.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
They don't make the decision for him, because if they do,
they look stupid, like it's him that moves on. Nick
Saban decided I'm moving on like I'm mad at here,
and he did it with LSU to go to the NFL,
and then did it with Alabama because he just got
tired of everything. You just you don't see this on
the flip side. So it feels like a long shot
that would happen. It is two Pros and a Cup
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Speaker 6 (37:15):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Bad and ugly, all right, Lee, who's got what?
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Well?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
And something I've been looking to forward to all week
is LeVar delivering those goods. Oh man, it's it's been
good football so far if you ask me. Good good
to see some competition, some parody. I mean I thought
that there would be more blowouts than what there have been.
She has been pretty competitive, like just seeing you know,
(37:52):
New Orleans possibly get a dub Indianapolis being undefeated and
obviously having the influence it's up there. Their their new
owner out there helping with the play calling and the
play sheets, hitting to the game, the game plans. It
just seems like it's been a pretty competitive year. And
it's just fun to think that the Beers aren't a
(38:14):
part of that. And you know that's my good for
the year. Yeah, there you go. That's because it's always
good to see Jonas and how he reacts when the
Bears are playing the way.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That they are. Right now, there you go. We can't
have that good without the bad. Brady, what was bad
this week?
Speaker 7 (38:32):
A lot of things?
Speaker 8 (38:34):
I mean, I could just go with the obvious, you know,
the name losing your final play with a egregious holding
call that was missed. And I get it, you know
you can't. It doesn't come down to one call. I'm
sure there was other calls that were missed throughout the
course of the game.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
But it felt bad. Didn't feel good, I tell you
that much. I think everyone I speak for everyone there
in in the nation that O two is not a
good feeling. They're very comforting.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Tang and from bad to worse?
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Jonas, what was ugly this week?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
You not reading the rundown correct giving me, giving me
ugly when it said that it was bad. I think
that's just, Uh that's reprehensible.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I think it's rude. You're reprehending. Uh yeah, that too.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
And then I think that I think that it's just
you know, I look at this and I go, why
would he put me in that position?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Why would he put me in that spot? Nerve like,
can you not?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Can you not see what's in front of you? Similar
to the judges in the Canelo Crawford fight who had
the score one fifteen, one thirteen. If you thought that
was a one fifteen one thirteen fight, you should be fired.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's my uglyly your think t bat.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I'm sorry, so that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Well done. Did you look the lid last night?
Speaker 5 (39:52):
I think is that even a word. I don't know
who cares? Roger, You're a fraud, gillantly
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You could hear me?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah? You heard what I was?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It something about smells the trash stinks? Really, why do
you want that to go over there? I thought I
can't smell it. No, yeah, I can't. Oh, I had
no idea, not.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
A lice salved Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I told him just to take the whole trash out
of there for you.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I mean, if you got some lice sauce spray, that
would be great.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Lee. Why are you pissed me? No, I didn't know.
All right, Well we're off and running here. By the way,
what is happening?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
What you guys just talked about was clear, like clear,
there's a stench in the and and uh I tried
to be very you know, kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Discreet. Yeah, yeah, discrete. It is what I was looking. Okay,
what's the stretch? Lee?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
No, is something coming from the trash?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
This is bad? Lee? Bad about it?
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Now?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Lee spran like in the studio, but was like pissed
off about He goes, I know, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I have no idea to do it. Lee.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Put whatever that is and into the trash.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh no, all right, were you drinking?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
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Speaker 5 (02:57):
All right, tis the scene Abody called me dumbes rocks
yesterday on your social So I guess I mean they
take those comments and bring them to your your social
page as well. You know, I don't know. I mean
people be having their comments and stuff like you ask
right here, you're solicited for it. They do it on
your your page show page. Yeah yeah, the Jonas Knock
(03:19):
Show page. Yeah yeah, I don't know. Man. I thought
that was interesting how he collaborated, uh, two pros and
a cup.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Of Joe with the Jonas Knock Show yesterday, you know,
or all the family.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I thought that was interesting. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, we
are all the family here, I can dig it. Okay,
speaking of families, you got two and o's and twos,
they they go together?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What a there? You go? All right?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So it tis the season uh two and oh zero
and two starts. The percentages would say, if you're owing
to good luck, what is the eleven point two something
something percent make the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And then if you're.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Talking that's actually eleven percent three?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, I mean we're splitting airs here, all right, So
teams are going too. Yeah, there's there's two and oh
teams as well too in the NFL. All right, So
who wants to start best and worst? Two and oh
zero and two teams in the NFL? Who wants to
start first? Who wants to fire away?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
You?
Speaker 8 (04:20):
I mean I think that low higgen Fruits probably Kansas City, right,
I think we don't agree they're own too, but they're
probably the best and two team, right, or that they're
the team that you would say right now, if I
had to bet money to make the playoffs, they could
still make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That O and two?
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (04:36):
I mean especially helps considering the Burrow injury with the Bengals. That's,
you know, a team that we're probably not looking at
as a playoff team.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
So that's that's helpful.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
The only other thing I'd say, though, is history has
not been kind to Kansas City, but this has been
the case. I believe the last time they started off
two it was like twenty fourteen that they had going
nine and seven and missing the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean, I would also say Houston is another zero
and two team. It's got a shot just based on
the divisions.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Those are the two I was looking at Kansas.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Because it kind of correlates with what some people think
might be a fraudulent TO and O team like Indianapolis,
And so if that's the case, they're in the same division,
maybe we could see the table turn. But Houston just
hasn't looked. They just have They haven't looked the same
since CJ. Stroud's rookie year. And so that's my only
(05:32):
hesitation there. So I would say, yeah, Kansas City, I'll
take my chances with Patrick Mahomes and you know those guys,
and to figure it out with Andy Reid that Kansas
City would be the low hanging fruit there.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
The sad thing is, since you guys gave the obvious
two teams that are the best oh and two teams,
I'm gonna give the most fraudulent OH and two teams, the.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
New York Giants.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Fraudulent fraud They're fraudulent because I thought that they would
be better than oh and two, and they were close,
they were close to getting the DUB.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
I don't know if that fits fraudulent.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Fraudulent, yes, because to me, they were supposed to be
a better team than what they've shown thus far. That's fraudulent.
The Jets after that first game, they're fraudulent. They're fraudulent
OH and two team. I thought that that's who they are, right,
I think they could have been a competitive team that
(06:31):
first game out. One could say that they maybe should
have won that game against Pittsburgh. You know, you get
a fumbled on the kickoff, you get some just some
unfortunate happenings that lead to you losing that game, and
then you go out and you lay an egg in
week two, you're fraudulent. I'm just saying two most fraudulent
(06:53):
oh and two teams to me, the Jets and the Giants,
because I think I had the Giants contending fighting for
a second place in the issue now maybe third to third.
I think I had them bringing up the third and
Dallas being last. Dallas looks much better than than.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Than the Giants do. So anyway, I think they're fraudulent.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
See I was actually gonna use the word fraudulent for
the next question is which team that's two and oh
is fraudulent?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Which you brought up one?
Speaker 8 (07:24):
I think most people would agree the Colts probably won't
be able to continue this Is that fair to say.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, it could be fraudul Indiana Jones, Come on.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
Arizona, how about this one? Three teams at the NFC
West are two of O, San Free, Arizona.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
All fraudulent, law not La not La, not l A,
but Arizona and Seattle fraudulent.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
So early case for best division of football. I mean
every single team is over five hundred or five hundred
or over.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yes, I don't know. I mean this is where you
should take your victory. Live LaVar. You said Arizona was
gonna be a team to deal with. They could be fraudulent.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I mean they really tried to give away that game
to Carolina. They tried their damn. I mean, they're so
impressive that they couldn't even lose that game.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
They have had the propensity of breaking down and not
being what they needed to be all the way through
the season. But I do have them winning the West.
I do believe. I think I did have them winning
the West. I just don't. I don't believe in I
don't know that it's sustainable here in LA for the Rams.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I am not a believer.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I believe the San Francisco forty nine ers are fraudulent.
While they got a quality win in Week one, I
guess you could say against Seattle because Seattle went and
beat beat Pittsburgh, which means that I mean, maybe they're
they're not as bad as I thought they are, but
or were. But I mean you literally almost lost to
(09:04):
the Saints, and I had the Saints beating them, which,
by the way, I think clearing it up. I think
you can money line. I think I think that got
cleared up by some betters yesterday, right that you can
money line.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Up, var LeVar, you can't, okay, all right, Yes you
can money line a favorite, Okay, but in betting terms,
your return is not.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Going to be as good.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
And also, if you're if you're picking between spreads and
money line, if you've got a favorite, well then that
team is favored to win.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Right.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
So for you to sit there and say like, oh,
I'm gonna take a favorite money line and they're laying
six and a half points, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
But because on the on the other side.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You still kill someone else. No.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
I mean theoretically in betting, but not in our game.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
No, okay, oh no, all right, you can only.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Money line underdogs.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think you do whatever you want LeVar.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You know what, Thanks thanks Jonas, Thank you, k I.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Think even Jonas would have an issue.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
All all of the aggression that is coming from from
Brady Quinn right now is unwarranted and unnecessary.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
I would say, Jonas, hold on, we've got to I mean,
if that's what we're doing, I'm money lining every favorite
from here on out of every NFL game.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
If that's how we're playing this.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We would have to half point it. We'd have to
give half points.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, half point I'm not money lining anything. I'm going
against the spread the entire year. I'm gonna make it
easy on Lee, Okay, all right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I don't mind making it harder on lady Woa. All
you gotta do is put in LeVar at promo code.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
After the endow.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Put into LeVar for what.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Your promo code at the end of your purchase.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
You need to reread that to make sure that's that's
the case, or do that have to spend five dollars
for shipping.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You gotta spend five dollars for shipping?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Can I make a Can I make a Can I
make a case for most fraudulent team in the league?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's two and zero? Who is it? The Bengals? Okay?
All right?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Would you have said that if Burrow is still healthy?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
No? But here, how can they be most fraudile? Okay?
And here's why they should have lost to the Browns
week one.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
They could have lost to the brown They.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Should have lost to the Jaguars last week.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
They could have lost to the jag Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And they're without their quarterback and he ain't coming back
anytime soon. This isn't like a And then if you
go over to the Niners on the other side of things,
who also are dealing with the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
They're the most fraudulent of them all.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But but not really if you think about the fact
that there's not that much of a step down from
brock Purty to mac Jones if anything, And they've just
won a game with mac Jones as their starter. George
Kittle is going to come back. It's not a long
term in he's dealing more fraudulent and barely beat New
Orleans and their schedule war works in their favor.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
San Francisco's going to the playoffs. That's going to be
a playoff team. Since take that bet, I don't miss
they're going to miss the playoffs. They're going to miss
the playoffs. They're going to finish third. They're going to
finish third in their division, and they're going to miss
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
It's going to be Arizona in l A that come
out out of the West.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Oh, you gotta be careful.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Forty Niners fans get very upset when you start making
accusations like comparing brock pretty to back Jones.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I don't know, and I don't know why. Who cares?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
It's weird they're sensitive about it?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Who cares? What is it? Like? Why do people get
so worked up over this? You know it's all they got? Man?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Okay, so some some people have their teams. I mean,
I feel like there's bigger issues positive. But that's fine,
all right. Let me I'm going to try and find
uh to make the playoffs. Odds here because you're saying
the Niners aren't going to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They're not, Okay, they're not.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
You really don't think that they have been a very
easy schedule.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, I don't think they're going to go really no,
all right, No, I think it's a matter of time
before the fall off takes place. Matter of time. I
just believe that for them this year. I'm sorry, I mean,
I'm not one to leave. Yeah, I just I'm just
going to stand on it. Stand ten toes down ten toes. Yeah, well,
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extra credit, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So the Niners to not make the playoffs, all right, Brady,
If you had to, if you had to guess what
the yes or no odds are on.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
DraftKings right now for the Niners, what would you say?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
I would say the odds are that they're going to
make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
What would you say the lion is on that?
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Ummm, they're probably a minus.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Two hundred a minus three twenty.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Take that back, cats and take that bet, so LeVar,
If to not make the playoffs on DraftKings, the Niners
are a plus two fifty.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Take that bet. A take that. Take that bet.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
They're gonna sticks sticks picks.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Take that bet, boom that that money might rat for you.
I feel positive about your money rating for you. Take
that bet. I'm telling you so.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
Let me ask this, do we feel most solidified in Philly,
Green Bay, Tampa Bay?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
We feel about Tampa.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
Could have lost to Atlanta, could have lost to Atlanta,
and you could have made the case they should have lost.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Who they just play Houston, they.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Could have lost both. They're the two and O two
that could easily.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
Be owing to Yeah, probably more so than even Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But having Carolina New Orleans in your division, I think
kind of makes it, you know, less obstacles, uh to
make a run there. And and also both those games
are on the road, so they'd yet to play a
home game yet. And so I feel like I'm confident
in Tampa Bay, even though I did not think much
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of them going into the season. I picked Atlanta. I'm
confident in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
But they definitely did have to fight to get that
dub at the end of that game, both dubs.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it took a best kick, Yeah, would.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah, you know, I'm not going to say they're fraudulent.
I think that they have a nice setup to be
able to win the South. I just don't see Atlanta
standing up, even though they got a nice win this week.
I don't see them standing up and being that team,
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all right, So.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
I just think I want to see Baker Mayfield in
the playoffs. I just want to see him. I love
the intensity, I love how he plays. Man, he's a player,
all right.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
So worst zero and two team.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Foul, it's gonna be tides, right, Whens?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I feel like it's Carolina, Thanks, thanks, Lorenda, And that
one will never sound right to me?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Ever, Lorada, don't you pot it down play the entire
thing just because you got embarrassed the.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
End.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
You got to play the end?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Whens?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
When's all.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
That's not lee for that end?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Say?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
How do you edit that? By the way, how did
you get it to sound like that?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah? How many takes for that?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It was pretty fast. Right now he's done? Whoa, yeah,
lots of takes? Wait what was there stuff? Oh yeah,
there's a lot. WHOA. Well, let's get I mean, let's
do it. What are we waiting on? I did the
clip right, I didn't expect you guys.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I want what Lorena's outtakes from the Quinn's winds imaging.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Who wouldn't want that? Quinn's wins? Whoa? That was horrible?
What else? Whoa? You just play It's about a minute whoa.
Oh so awkward? Whoa Quinn's wins? That was weird. I
don't like that one at all. Oh gosh, it's wins.
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Whoa wins? Whoa? That sounds weird. I feel weird because
it's Brady.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So hot right now? Isn't that an old drop from him?
Cracks me up? Now he's done. That's enough.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
That's enough, that's enough, that's enough.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Let's move on. Let's move on. That's why let's move on.
All right, that's enough.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
That's why I throw the line right here.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Jonas, Oh my gosh, no, that's where you draw the line.
You get any place work? You know where to go? Dang,
all right, all storm out, I'm out here.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Lee's when.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Don't get up?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Second veto was involved.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Tangle. That's kind of funny. Actually, that's actually that's kind
of a really funny dig Right there, He's done.
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So Clemson has been a little bit of a disappointment
so far this season. They lose to Georgia Tech over
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the weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
My guy popped off, didn't he.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
They are one and two and davoswiney he has heard
the complaints and he had this to say.
Speaker 11 (20:59):
If they won't be going, if they tired of winning,
they can send me on the way, because that's all
we've done is win. So if they tired of winning,
we've had We've won this league eight out of.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
The last ten years.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Is that not good? I'm just asking is that good?
I don't know if that's good or not? To win
your league eight out of ten years to go to
playoffs seven out of ten years, being four national championships,
went twice. Yeah, we little down right. Now take your shots.
But I got a long memory case y'all don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We'll be all right. We'll bounce back.
Speaker 11 (21:23):
This is a program built to last, always has been,
always will be. And I would just say, if you
give up on us, if you don't believe on us,
because we've lost two games down to the last trade
and we're wanting.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
You didn't believe in us anyway, so it don't matter.
You wasn't all in anyway. If you all in, you
burn the ships.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Man.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
There ain't no exit strategy like you're freaking all in.
And hey listen, I meanson's tired of winning. They send
me on my way, but I'm gonna go somewhere else,
And coach, I ain't going to the beach.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Hell, I'm fifty five. I got a long way to go.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Y'all gonna have to deal with me.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
For a while.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I had a long way to go. I'm just getting going.
Speaker 11 (21:59):
I'm just now good enough to be a head coach.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
There you go, flex, there you go.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean alone, he's not wrong.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Seven out of the last ten years made the playoffs,
flex on eight of ten, won the conference. Flex thirteen
of the last fourteen years he's won double digits, so
ten or more games. The exception of that was twenty
twenty three where they went nighted four. This is somewhere
in the territory of like the Ryan Day, Ohio State
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fan based conversation. So many programs and schools they'll want
to fire these guys, and you know what they end
up doing. They end up spending the next decade or
more trying to find that exact same guy they would
have killed four. So Clemson fans, I get it. This
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is not the start of the season that you wanted.
By the way, last year wasn't the start of the
season that you wanted. You went nighted three, you end
up winning your con to go to the playoff.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I get it.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
You still want the conference, you still went to the
playoff that they still have very much of an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
To do that.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
It's a one to two football team that has not
played its best football. You don't want to play your
best football right now. You want to play your best
football in November December, heading into the playoff.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
The teams that get hot are the.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
Teams that end up ultimately playing for the national championship.
That was Ohio State without a doubt last year, And
then you're gonna be making the case that was not
to day.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You can't make that case, Like I'll go.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
To the other side of that conversation. Like we've already
talked about Notre Dame this week. But you know, if
you look at some of these teams that have losses
and the fan bases are panicking, the fan base is
what these coaches fired? They just started the season. Do
you think up ending a coaching staff or a head coach,
whatever the case may be, do you think it's a
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good idea for these players?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Like, then, what do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
You're gonna have someone else start over called the defense,
you know, to someone else start over as the head coach.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
How do you think that's gonna go? To me?
Speaker 8 (24:05):
It's always unbelievable, Like literally, it's almost impossible for me
to comprehend how fans get like this so early into
a season. And yet you literally watched the team last
year in Ohio State, they lost Oregon, they got beat
down by mission.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
At the end of the year, went on a hot
run win a national.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Championship, and they turned right back around and they'll complain
about something the following year.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
It's wild man.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
And so let me just point out one thing real quick,
because this is we haven't got to it. I'm pretty
sure we're not gonna get to it based on how
our rundowns have gone. But you know, coaches have already
been fired. Brett Prye, former DC at Penn State. Levardo's
a well Averrggia tack.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
He's gone.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
You can look at a situation like that and you say, well,
why do they fire him so early in the season.
To Sean Aster, head coach at UCLA, why is he
fired so early into the season. He got a year
and then some games, handful of games, not even well
the reasons this. There's a thought with some of those
places that it gets twofold. A lot of the players,
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you know, if they want an opportunity to go somewhere else,
they can. So if you if you do it before
week four of college football, those kids who've played can
still made tatter Redsha a year.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
If they have one. So that's what spind of thought. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
The other thought is they want to get to jump
on the next head coaching search, and they want to
get that person in place as soon as possible because
they haven't changed the transfer portal windness. They haven't changed
their early sidting period. So not only do you have
to deal with the rest of the season, which is
all you know, you know, foregone conclusion, at this point,
you're already starting to find that next guy, to build
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a staff, to get the recruits not only in high
school but also the college level, et cetera. So that's
all expediting this entire process, which means there's even more
of a need for changing the college football calendar of
the transfer portal windows. So we're not looking at, you know,
putting so much pressure on these coaches where they if
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they don't win out of the gate, then all of
a sudden, you know, they got to move on, which
UCLA And I think you'd admit, for anyone who watched
the second half of last year, they got better. That
was a better team last year in the second half
of the first half the season, So you know, it
isn't unfortunate it was Deshaun Foster or the right guy
for you. Still I don't know, I mean, I don't
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think he had enough time. I could, I could honestly
say that Brett Priyant Virginia Tech.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
I mean, if those guys don't get four years to
get their entire you know, class of recruits in and develop,
et cetera, how do you really know? But this is
the society we live in now. We don't get the
results we went right away. We just want to move on.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Brent Prie is a fine coach man. He'll he'll land
on his feet, uh DeShawn. I don't really know too
much about his coaching pedigree. I know him as a
player and I know him as as a man. He's
a dope dude as a man, great family man, those kids.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I know this because that was.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
One of man's uh final schools that that he looked at.
So I got some extensive time with him and the
coaching staff on campus. The coaches and the players alike
really respected him, like at a very very high level.
Anytime I've ever been around you know, coach coach Brent
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Brent Pride, He's always been a very well respected person
by by his by his coaching staff, and by his players.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
And I feel like that's if the players, if the
players ride.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
With you and they believe in you.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
To me, that that's the biggest that's the biggest taiale
of the tape is what's the respect factor for you
as a person.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And if people.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Admire you when you're not around, and they respect you
and they have great things to say about you when
you're not around, that speaks volumes to me of the
person that you are. Then comes to conversation of how
does that translate into being the coach that you need
to be? And I feel like that's always going to
be the most complex question to answer because there's so
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many different ways to gauge and measure what being a
successful coach is. You know, the interesting thing is there's
so many times that everything is based off of winning
and losing. I was just watching a clip on coach
Paterno just randomly popped up on my algorithm, but was
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watching a video on him, and what it really made
me think about and what it really made me feel
is and coming into this topic is that the one
thing that people don't pay attention to and it doesn't
resonate with them because generally speaking, they only care when
you're forced to care. Is the development of these young men.
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And if you have a coach that is graduating his players,
if you have a coach that is teaching his players
how to tie a tie, put on a suit, make
sure that they're presentable for a job interview, make sure
that they're on time, not only for doing things that
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are athletic, but making sure you're on time for class.
There's a rule with Penn State players where when they
check on you, you should be there early enough to be
sitting in the front of the class. No matter how
big the class is. It doesn't matter if it's two
hundred or if it's twenty. You guys should be there
early enough to be sitting in the front of the class.
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So when we're making these judgments about these co and
what they don't do and how they don't win, and
it becomes so much about winning and losing, I find
it to be kind of interesting the dichotomy between how
we view these coaches and what they're tasked to do
at the college level as it applies to wins and losses.
(30:19):
When we start to get into conversations like the nil
Like when we start to get into conversations like these
kids being treated as professionals rather than being treated as students.
Because if you're looking at it from a true perspective
of treating them like students, then some of these coaches
that people call for you don't have to go any
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further than the conduct of the players that they have
and what their accomplishments are on and off the field.
That would give you a really really warm and happy,
happy feeling about what's taking place there.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
But that doesn't matter, right.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
All that matters is in the end, if you win,
if you lose, And sometimes I feel like, you know
that gets lost.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I throw it out there.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, it's almost like, uh, the game has changed to
where it's no longer but it's just, uh, are you winning?
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
We need immediacy, We need results right away. And you know,
on the Davos Swinny thing. The reason the Davos Swinny stuff,
because we've talked about it, James Franklin. Fans that don't
appreciate James Franklin in the success he's.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
They love to hate James ro just rip Angele, the
coach that that was before Joe Paternal He just tied
him on on on the wins list.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But I mean, I could on a small level. Understand, well,
you know, they've seen national championships with Joe Paterno, Ryan Day,
They've seen success there with Irvin Meyer, and at the
program like Clemson's never had an era anywhere close to this,
like every not even close. They won one national title
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and I think eighty one. Other than that, they've never
like they've never sniffed this before.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And here we are.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
They've got off to a slow start, and it's already like, well,
there's got to be a change. If Daboswiney was on
the open market, he would get hired in twenty minutes,
like he like, they would hire him immediately some other programs.
So it just it feels like it's become big business
now and there's a lot more voices outside of just
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the fanatical fan bases of these programs that are making decisions.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
And you know, I know, way more complex. You got
the transfer portal. Now it's just you got the nil money.
It is way more complex to start over with the
coaching staff than it's ever been ever. That is a
that is a very very big decision when you let go.
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Now if it's a new coach, that's that's a little
bit different. But you talk about an institutional type of
coach like it Dabo Sweeney, Good luck with that. Look
at what's going on with Alabama. They are going to
have their hands full trying to figure out post post
Nick saban Era.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
There. Oh, they would hire Dabo Swiney.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Well, there you go. He played for Alabima, Yes he did.
Like he played for Gen Installings. They would hire him
up immediately if that was the case, like to bring
him in.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
So yeah, I just it's going.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
To be difficult to feel positions of guys who have
been institutions pillars to some of these programs, and people
are going to find out the things that you wish for.
You gotta be careful sometimes stuff you wish for because
you just might get it.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
There's be a lot of people who disagree with this.
Maybe you guys disagree with it.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I also think this is a small piece of like
the influence of social media. We're like everything we see
in life is like the best of with that person.
It's it's success, it's when it gets the best of everything.
It's like you don't see those moments of despair, those
(34:06):
moments of you know, heartache, tragedy, or how much it
took to get to the success or how much it
took to climb that mountain.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I think that's a byproduct.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Of this, where like fans have an unrealistic expectation because one,
none of these especially young.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
People know history like no one, no one reads history.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
And then the other portion of it is they don't
face that sort of adversity to then get them to
understand like what it takes. And so even for a
program like Clemson, you know, if this was you know,
one of those years where maybe they take a step back, okay,
like it only builds for the next season for a
number of those players who are coming back. And you
(34:49):
can make that case for a bunch of programs Alabama
to get off to as hard as a start as
they wanted to.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Now they look like they're you know, right back in
and now. But you know, same thing for Notre Dame.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
You're sitting there too right now, all right, So so
what like go try to take one game of a time,
see where you get by the end of the season.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Like no one said it's gonna be easy.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
And that's the problem is that it almost feels like
everyone feels like it's just supposed to go. How the
script is supposed to go. It's it's kind of it's
wild to be. But if Klemston we were to move
on from Dabo, Sweetie, it would be maybe the greatest
mistake ever made by a school of college football history,
(35:31):
Like it would for sure be up there. I'm trying
to think of others, but this one sticks out more
than any of the right now.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, I can't think of anybody else as far
as like, there's been some questionable firings. We've brought up,
you know, Nebraska Bopolini a bunch of times, but yeah,
nothing to where a coach has had this much success.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
No, I don't think anything.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Anytime a coach that's had this much success leaves on
his own, he flexed on.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He makes a decision.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
They don't make the decision for him, because if they do,
they look stupid, like it's him that moves on. Nick
Saban decided I'm moving on like I'm mad at here,
and he did it with LSU to go to the NFL,
and then did it with Alabama because he just got
tired of everything. You just you don't see this on
the flip side. So it feels like a long shot
that would happen. It is two Pros and a Cup
(36:22):
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right now it is time for this.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Bad and ugly, all right, Lee, who's got what?
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Well?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
And something I've been looking to forward to all week
is LeVar delivering those goods. Oh man, it's it's been
good football so far if you ask me. Good good
to see some competition, some parody. I mean I thought
that there would be more blowouts than what there have been.
She has been pretty competitive, like just seeing you know,
(37:52):
New Orleans possibly get a dub Indianapolis being undefeated and
obviously having the influence it's up there. Their their new
owner out there helping with the play calling and the
play sheets, hitting to the game, the game plans. It
just seems like it's been a pretty competitive year. And
it's just fun to think that the Beers aren't a
(38:14):
part of that. And you know that's my good for
the year. Yeah, there you go. That's because it's always
good to see Jonas and how he reacts when the
Bears are playing the way.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That they are. Right now, there you go. We can't
have that good without the bad. Brady, what was bad
this week?
Speaker 7 (38:32):
A lot of things?
Speaker 8 (38:34):
I mean, I could just go with the obvious, you know,
the name losing your final play with a egregious holding
call that was missed. And I get it, you know
you can't. It doesn't come down to one call. I'm
sure there was other calls that were missed throughout the
course of the game.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
But it felt bad. Didn't feel good, I tell you
that much. I think everyone I speak for everyone there
in in the nation that O two is not a
good feeling. They're very comforting.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Tang and from bad to worse?
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Jonas, what was ugly this week?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
You not reading the rundown correct giving me, giving me
ugly when it said that it was bad. I think
that's just, Uh that's reprehensible.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I think it's rude. You're reprehending. Uh yeah, that too.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
And then I think that I think that it's just
you know, I look at this and I go, why
would he put me in that position?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Why would he put me in that spot? Nerve like,
can you not?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Can you not see what's in front of you? Similar
to the judges in the Canelo Crawford fight who had
the score one fifteen, one thirteen. If you thought that
was a one fifteen one thirteen fight, you should be fired.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's my uglyly your think t bat.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I'm sorry, so that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Well done. Did you look the lid last night?
Speaker 5 (39:52):
I think is that even a word. I don't know
who cares? Roger, You're a fraud, gillantly
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