September 18, 2025 • 38 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Let's give this punies.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
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Speaker 4 (00:33):
I'm a simple.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Condom man.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
Who you gotta go get it done? Yee, this one.
Come on, you gotta get out there. You gotta go
get it done.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I got pictures of lemurs on my computer.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Now, did you know.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
That uh lamers eat millipe to get high, Q to
get high. Yeah, they'd be trying to get faded out
there in the in the wild. So they'll like jump at,
you know, millipedes and like get them out, throw them out.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It begs the question if I get a millipede with that.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
I mean, I don't think it would kill you because
it's it is poison. What they're they're using to get high.
But I mean, lemurs are smaller than us, so I
would I would assume it would have maybe the same
effect on you, but just not as not as high.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Oh yeah, you gave them one of least mini bottles.
They'll be an outer space like.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Lemur is a fun name to say if you were high.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, no doubt, limur clean lemur.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
It makes sense for people wondering what a lemur is.
It's those little tiny monkeys with raccoon looking tails, and
they have these bug eyes and they do look stoned.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
It's who is he from Gascar? Oh?
Speaker 6 (02:02):
From Madagascar? Right, Julian is a king, Julian. There you go,
King Julian.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Is it centipedes or millipedes?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Millipedes?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Okay, because we can die from eating centipedes.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Let me look at milliped So there you go, look
at millipede.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
I mean, they could probably.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
All sorts, all sorts of helpful content to keep us alive.
She's trying to keep everyone spry.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
She's posting, are you ready?
Speaker 8 (02:32):
Eating a millipede can cause illness, contain toxins, so you
will get sick, You'll get nauseous, vomiting, skinning, irritation and
an unpleasant taste.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
That's getting high. I mean, that's that's that's that's what
getting high equates. To think about it. When you get drunk,
what do you do? You get nauseous, you throw up.
Sometimes it doesn't taste good. I mean, that's just work. Okay,
So he was he was Lee was eating millipede last night.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, maybe maybe Lee did a shot of millipede last night.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's what it was.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Uh, we missed out on some content that I was
personally hoping to get an update? Can Jonas, can you
enlighten us on what's happened with A Jake Paul Javonte
Davis take David?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Is you think it moved to Miami?
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So it was supposed to be in Georgia and then
the fight got moved to Miami.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Why it was gonna be in Georgia versus Miami or
Vegas or well.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I don't know exactly why there. I think that the
report coming out is that the Georgia Entertainment and Athletic
Commission said that well, uh, they didn't have clearance to
promote the fight the way that they were, and then
Jake Paul and his people said no, tickets were sold. No,
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nothing happens, We'll just move it to Miami. I just
I'll be honest with you, after seeing Terence Crawford Canelo Alvarez,
and I don't really have a lot of time for
an exhibition bout between two guys and one's got a
sixty pound weight advantage. And I don't know if part
of the reason why they didn't have full clearance from
the Athletic Commission was because of the weight discrepancy. But
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that does happen if they're not if they're not gonna
sanction it, then they'll find some other place it would
I would ask you this though, from a fighter standpoint,
wouldn't you rather have it in Miami for tax purposes? Like,
if you're going to be working there, wouldn't you rather
do it there? So it feels like everybody.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
I have no idea how they are taxed by assumptions
though that, yeah, you'd rather have it a place.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
No citings for Dante to do something like this, says,
I mean, I don't know, man, it's a horrible move
for his his career.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Horrible move. Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
I don't think people judge them, but I think I
think they get paid and they you.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Know, he's still an active fighter, and he's and he's
a very well respected fighter. He just had a tough one,
I mean, and he probably should have lost, but it
was a split. But he's still nonetheless like he's still
wanted the more exciting fighters that are out there. I
just think it turns it into somewhat of a clown show.
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I think like part of the discussion about it is
that there might have been an offer on the table, like, hey,
here's the offer, take it now or it's gone.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
It's a ton of money.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And he said, all right, well I'll take the money
now and I'll get.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Back to my it's a ton of money. It's gotta
be a f load of money, man, just just a
ton of money for him to do this.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
It's an exhibition. I'm just not it doesn't do.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
It for me. Sorry, what is he?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I mean, he gains a lot of money off of
doing it, But what else do you gain by fighting?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Jake Paul?
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Like what I mean, you're opening yourself up to an
audience that you know, unless you're boxing fans, I don't
know how many people know Tank Davis, right, Like.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
If you're a streamer or a YouTuber, whatever you'd say.
Jake Paul's audience is this.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Is opening you up to a new world of of
I guess fandom or people who might follow you, is
that he's.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Still he's still undefeated, and he's still one of the
top guys out there. I just think this is this
is it's a bad decision. It's a bad look like
if and I don't. I'm not even a boxing purist,
but I am a fight fan. If you're at the
end of your career, if you're done with your career,
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like what Mike Tyson and them are doing, like you
want to put on a wh Yeah, you want to
put on a show, put on a show. But he's
he's still like legit in his career, prime of his career.
This makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It makes no sense, not even for the I want
to gain exposure from from a different It doesn't make sense.
And it also I don't it's not a knock on
Jake Paul because I think what he's done, what Logan
Paul have done, has been fantastic. And I think Jake
Paul's gotten better and better and he's a legit good boxer,
like he's got good skills, but it's always it's never
quite a legit and I don't want to say legit,
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but it's never quite a fight that you look at
and go, oh, yeah, I could, because everything's got to
catch to it. Well, it's a retired MMA fighter, or
it's it's this guy who's never boxed professionally before, or
it's Mike Tyson and he's sixty years Well.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Davis Gavante at his size could probably knock Paul out.
He hits hard enough where he could, and he's quick enough,
and he's crafty enough, and he's in his prime where
he could knock Paul out. He could actually knock him out.
The point is, though, they're not going to allow that
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to happen. No, you clearly saw Mike Tyson with his
old ass was pulling punches. Damn it was pulling punches. Yeah,
hey man, that bag is a bag. And I'm saying
you go out there, we're gonna spa. I'm gonna make
it through the you know, through the.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I saw his ball bag.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Da that's true.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I just I think I don't think it's I think
it's it's so I don't think it's a good move
for Javonta.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Let me let me ask you has this counter programming?
All right, you've got that fight, it's supposed to be
on November sixteenth, that same night, you've got Clemson at
Louisville College Football, You've got min Minnesota at Oregon, you
know where. That's what I'm saying, like, Yeah, there's just
I feel like there's gonna be other options at that
time that uh, you know, unless maybe you'll take a
peek at it. But and it's on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I believe the thing about it is Jake Paul's turned
himself into the new Floyd Mayweather. And and no not
because he can box and he has the type of
talent and skill that that Floyd had. It's that he's
created a persona that makes people hate him. You either
love him or you hate him. And then when you
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look at it from the standpoint of, well, why would
you watch the fight this is now? You watch the
fight with Mike Tyson before going into it and seeing
what happened, you watched it with the idea that even
at Mike's age, he probably could knock Jake Paul out right, So.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's what people are hoping.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
You're hoping that he gets knocked out, and and and
Gravante that it's probably the only this is the first
fight that I would say, even though he's smaller, this
is the first fighter that that I would say could
really knock him out that and and by him doing that,
getting a guy that is in his prime, that that
does have some like out of the ring issues taking place.
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That may be the reason why he's taking this fight.
I don't know, he might be spend it not even
able to fight, you know, a sanctioned fight. He still
boxes outside of the ring apparently.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And so look him up. I mean you're fa hearing them.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Little fingers to look that thing up. Yeah, he doesn't stop.
He doesn't stop the jabs.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
He's had some stuff in public at other fights while
he's in the crowd where like he's getting rough.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, you know, you know he's he's tank. He's a
little tank, but little tank tank. But this is the
first one I'd say that people are going to watch
to see. Is this the one where he gets knocked out?
That's that's that's the reason why these fights work. But
that Mike Tyson one just it ruined it. If you're
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if you want to watch it for entertainment. Watch it
for entertainment. If you're watching it for anything other than that,
you're dumb.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
They were trying to line up and they were down
the road in negotiations for a Jake Paul Cannelo Alvarez fight.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Which is stupid.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, that's super superd That's what led to the Bud
Crawford fight because then all of it and basically what
ended up happening is Canelo used it as leverage and
Turk al Chic, who runs riodd Season, who's putting all
these massive fights on in Saudi Arabia, he basically just
came to Canelo and said, all right, well how about this.
I'll give you a three fight deal for you know whatever,
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hundreds of millions of dollars, and Canelo Avareze is like, yeah,
we're good here because Canelo looks at it like what
you just said, LeVar, I could I could take that
Jake Paul fight after my career is over. When I'm done. Yeah,
I'm done. Yeah, all he wants me to take.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
You want me to take a fall, take a loss
in the exhibition, Like, I'll do what I'm done. I'm
not going to do that while I'm in the middle
of my career and I'm still trying to like get
get big paydays. I mean, Javonte generates a ton of
money for pay per views. I mean he's one of
those guys. He is a generator. So and now it's shifted.
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It's shifting like now Bud is taken taking that that title.
He's going to be the one that is now able
to generate big, big time money for super Fight. You know,
whether they pay for it to be streamed or whether
they put it in pay per view per se. It's
Bud Crawford. But I'm telling you the one that's out
there that nobody is really talking about that that he
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is a killer is Benavidez. Dude is a bro and
he's got the whole swag from him. Y'all, y'all want
to talk about the ones in Cincinnati. Check check out
his situation. Check out check out what he got going on.
Benevetas ain't playing around, bro, not in the ring or
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out of it. He he he, He embodies what being
a champ represents is what I'll say. And I can
guarantee you he wouldn't be fighting up. I guarantee you.
Jake Paul went and try to fight Benevetez. Throw his
name out there, do it? Do exhibition with him?
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Oh yeah, on a millipede. Yeah, it's a millipede that
makes all the sense of the world.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, there you go.
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So it's kind of an interesting situation for everybody. This weekend,
Tom Brady's going to be on the call for the
Cowboys and the Bears game, and the following week the
Bears play the Raiders, the team that he's part owner of,
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and so the questions have started to fly. We talked
about it at nauseum this week about you know, conflict
of interest and everything that comes along with it. So
Ben Johnson, the head coach of the Bears, was asked
about Tom Brady's involvement in calling this game, and it
sounded like this, I've.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
Been careful everything I've said since the season starts. I've
been in pure coach speak mode. Me, it's just business
as usual. I'm just fine. I like Tom and we
have a really good relationships. I said, I'm really not
worried about it. I mean, we changed week to week
in terms of what we do. Schematically, He's gonna be
able to turn on the tape and see what everyone
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else in the world's seeing right now. Personnel WI is
really the same thing. It's it's not like I'm gonna
sit down with him, Hey, don't do this to Caleb Williams,
or you might get it like I'm not. There's not
gonna be any trade secrets that are going to be exchanged.
But I just I really don't think it's that big
of a deal, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
With serious question. They added the crowd noise.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Actually I was just gonna say, nothing else is working there,
but at least a laugh track. Is that hallas Hall
got that figured out?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I just don't.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That a pity one did get a pity drum.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
They must all have millipede.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I don't, uh, I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Fail.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I really don't get the uh the outrage. Honestly, I don't.
I feel this feels like it's an opportunity for some
conspiracy bitching. Uh, people want to cite certain things as
to why everything's not on the up and.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Up or et cetera. I just he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
The Raiders won't need whatever intel he gets from the
Bears to beat the Bears.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
They won't.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
They're awful, and it doesn't seem like and I think
Brian Schottenheim even said, you know, everybody's got everybody's got
everybody's playbook, Like everybody knows everything, they know all this stuff.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
It's not really that big of a deal. I mean,
but what if Brady really was doing it? What if
he really what if he really was using this to
make the Las Vegas Raiders better. Let's just say for
one second, the idea of it, the accusation of it
is one true.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
What's the what's what's the end?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
What's the end results? What? What is the what?
Speaker 10 (18:33):
What is?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
What are the implications of it? Can? Can?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Can you guys help me with that? It's one hundred
percent true that Tom Brady is using this to his advantage?
What are the advantages? What are the advantages?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I just like to know.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
He brought up a.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Great point because I've said this forever. This kind of
goes back to the counter style and sign stealing stuff
where people are like, oh, they got their so it's like, well,
teams were changing their signs, so whatever they had from
previous games, they weren't the same for that game. And
there's nothing against in game side stealing, like like looking
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across the sidelines and picking off their signals.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Well, you can get a hold of a tendency like
I don't care if it's a signal from THEE or what.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I don't care. I'm shaking it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
If that's how you categorize it.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Sure, but you literally could look at their their sign
you know, signalers, and you could if you saw sign
you saw who was hot, which guy was the one
setting them in, and you got to beat on it.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You're allowed to do that.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
So I always said, with that situation, so what so
what they had their signs? Every team did it. They
had an idea of it. You could see some stuff
on film. I mean, hell, we watched you know film
in the NFL. You watch for a dB to make
a signal once you adjust from a certain formation, and
you go, okay, that's where they they checked it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Two.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Okay, this is where they check into a Blitzer man.
This is what their signal is for. That's what you're
looking for. So all of a sudden, we believe that
Tom Brady's getting some sort of secret information from these meetings.
He's taken back to Las Vegas. I mean, the whole
thing is just it's so overblown, and I think, like
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what people are trying to put out there is and
this is one of the stories aread this week, what
it was if Peyton Manning had a part ownership of
the Denver Broncos. Do you think that Tom Brady would
let anyone in the Raiders' organization, you know, go and
go to meetings or tell Peyton Manny or the Broncos
anything in a production meeting, I'm like, well, first off,
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I don't think Payn Manning goes to production meetings. That's
the first thing. For what he does for Monday night football,
I'm pretty sure he does it. The second thing is,
you know, I don't know, probably not, but here's a secret.
Every single coach of every single team I was ever
a part of would tell you not to tell the
production crew anything ever.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Ever.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Ever, So like for all those people out there that
have an issue with this. No one's saying anything anyway.
These production meetings, they're literally for the networks, and you
know who they're for. They're for all the people behind
the scenes. And I'm just gonna say it, and I
know people are probably gonna get upset at Fox or
anyone else I've been.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's not for the analyst, it's not.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
It's for everyone else to feel like they're getting something
out of it, to make them kind of feel a
part of the process. It's for everyone else. It's not
for the analyst. The analyst, if they're doing their job
is watching film. They're able to watch enough film and
gather enough stats. With all the tools you have now,
you don't need a damn thing from any production meeting.
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So it's literally to make everyone else feel important and
a part of the process. That's why you have them.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
This isn't back during the days when John madd was
an analyst and John Madden had to talk through every
single player, every single roster, because it was harder to
get tape, it was harder to get reported.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
On all of it. There is actually too much out
there to absorb before a game. Wee get a week out.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
There's there's too much, and half the information gets regurgitated
from analysts to analysts, from network to network, et cetera.
So like this is the most overblowed thing. And I'm
not sure, like if people just have a bow to
pick with Tom Brady or they just want to drum
up sub drama to talk about that.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
They love to not not trust. There's got to be
more to the story. And I don't know if this
is a big picture conversation about you know, nobody trusts
the media anymore or whatnot. But there can it can
never just be yeah, the guys, well no, you can
put this one on. But no, but you can because
I think people are just so accustomed now to like, well,
whatever we're being told isn't the truth. Oh so you
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need to tell me tom Brady doesn't have a conflict
of interest, right, Okay, But if he's not getting the
information that would cause there to be a conflict of
interest that would be an advantage towards the Raiders. Why
is it even a discussion If he's not getting any
intel that's going to factor in or change anything happening
in a game, who cares? And also any information that
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he wanted to get that would benefit the Raiders. Couldn't
he just get that on his own by talking to people.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
It's not like because he's calling a game, they give
him access to this database that gives you, like the
military secrets of this team.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Aren't you more likely to get that in conversations outside
of those meetings with those teams for games you're calling,
like just just people you know in the AA I'm
hearing this about this.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
See if you're looking at the conflict of interest as
like him having influence over players when he's interviewing them,
because you do get access to talking to the players.
So if they gave him an opportunity to say, Okay,
I get an opportunity to enter you justin Jefferson and
(24:02):
I made like have an exchange with him that is
so good and so pleasant that later on it's like
I remember when we talked during the production meeting, DA
DA DA, this and that and it opens. If you
want to draw that type of conclusion, I could see
if you're looking at conflict of interest that way, But
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to base it off of information being being exchanged, it's
super overblown. That is super overblown. Like Ben Johnson said,
I'm going to be in coach mode. He didn't just
go into coach mode because Tom Like, oh, I just
tell it all. But now that Tom Brady's coming, I'm
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going into coach mode. Like like Q said, you're already
in coach mode to begin with. You are trained, you
are taught that the enemy is the media. Do not
give them anything of any real substance as it applies
to game plan, injuries, anything of that sort.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
They don't go down those lanes.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
There also is an element to the fact that it
is Tom Brady, and Tom Brady's a former Patriot, and
people will assume the Patriots were pulling shenanigans and there's
deflate Gate and there's Spygate, And I do think there's
an element of that.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
And I think there's still a lot of resentments. It's
why people take.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
This lot of hard work for no reason.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
If you're saying I don't fool with Tom Brady being
in the calling games because of the flate gates.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I think the Patriots. I think the Patriots were so
dominant for so long that there's still any opportunity to
call out Brady for anything, whether it was his performance
as a broadcaster, his conflict of interest, Belichick with you know,
dating the rocket Ship in her twenties and North Carolina
(25:53):
getting annihilated in the first I think people are waiting
to pounce because they were the doormats to a successful
franchy and a successful championship run for two decades, and
there's people that are still resentful to Really.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Brady is an unapologetic dude too. On top of that,
it ain't like he don't he's Tom Brady. He gonna
let you know he Tom Brady too, Like, don't get
it twisted. He is Tom Brady. It ain't no, It's okay,
Like Tom is Tom Brady. He's boldly who he is,
(26:26):
bro And maybe that might be a part of it too. Yes,
he's going to get the Brazilian supermodel, Yes he is. Yes,
he's gonna get what he wants financially, Yes he is. Yes,
he's gonna get part of a team, get team ownership
that probably most other Cats ain't going to be able
to have access to to get a hold of it.
Yes he is, he is Tom Brady. He's gonna let
(26:46):
you know he's Tom Brady. So get used to it
a little bit, be happy about it.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I'm a little surprised that he's calling Cowboys Bears when
the game in the NFC on Fox this week is
Rams Eagles. Like that that is a big game, Like surprise,
they got Joe Davis and Greg Olsen on the call
for that one.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Why are you surprised at that? Brady and uh, that's
Kevin sometimes.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You well, hold on, hold on, hold on which one
do you think will rate higher?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Well, I mean that one because it's in a later
time slot.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Which one's that one?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
The four to twenty five Bears? Cowboys gamble rate.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Higher, but the boy and it's and it's also you're boys.
Cowboys tend to rate high.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
So so you've got not only two big markets in
Dallas and Chicago, you still have the Cowboys. So it's like,
you know, it's putting one of your biggest brands, you
know in that time slot, which is that you could.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Say whatever, that's the biggest bran. Yeah, it's the biggest
so it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, that's the biggest brand.
Wow they stank. Yeah, even though they are the biggest brand,
they the biggest brand is Stank.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I mean Dallas. I think Dallas has been a little
better than the people have thought they have. They can't
stop anybody. But you don't get you don't get brownie
points for losses. Though they just took that first ale,
probably about to take the second al. You don't get
brownie points for losing. Man, they're one in one, right, Yeah,
(28:17):
they beat the giants. They beat the giants with a kicker.
They lost week one, Week one, week.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
One, and it was it was I was, I was unpleasantly.
I was not not happy about how good they looked.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Yeah, if you're playing, if you're playing horseshoes, I mean
that counts, right, You're like, hey, that's a point.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
I mean, hey, it's four, it's four thirty five right now,
isn't it time to play horseshoes with Lee?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Do it again? Like, let's call it like every hour
one hour.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Let's let's less it's while we're talking about grenades and horseshoes, like,
let's let's throw a grenade out there.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
So for those you just joining us, you're one up
on lead because yea and joined us. It is our
two of the program. We're halfway through the show. Uh
Lee is nowhere to be found. Uh if we've we've
called him, he is not here hoping for the best. Uh,
but Lee is nowhere to be found, and we are
under the impression I was texting with him yesterday. Let's
(29:17):
see if we can get a hold if we called
him seventeen times, by the way, let's see if we.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Can get him. If we can get him, it hits
three rings.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It's bad.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Here's that third ring. It's not going to go well. Nope.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Sorry, you a message and I'll get back to you. Hey, Lee,
you're you're live on the air.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Lee, this is our two.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
We're calling back, getting a little concerned, you know, check
in hope you're alive.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Yeah, Hey Lee, I'm just wondering are you being held
hostage by anyone?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And you don't need to answer the question.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Just say half hour if you're in trouble, okay, just
text us back happy hour. That won't seem odd because
we know that you're it's five o'clock somewhere. We know
that that's how you operate. So just text us happy
hour if you need help.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
This is so.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
All right, Sorry, Cooper're trying to get you out of here.
We're trying.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I mean, Coop, you might as well just finish the
show now, I mean it's it's downhill from here, you know. Yeah,
I guess so it's downhill.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
If you're lucky, he'll show up right before it's.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Time to edit, like nothing happened, like morning buddies, Hey buddy, heybody, Yeah,
it just ran until you know, you.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Think he Carol mom foil last night.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Do you think he wakes up before the show ends
at six o'clock? I think he'll wake up when the
sun comes. What do you think the sweet spot? Well,
it's raining out here.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
It is raining, which which is yeah, which makes it
really sleep too, that's real good sleep.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah, I don't. I think he's gone now. I think
he's going to wake up before the show is over.
He won.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
But here's the thing about him. It's not like he
wakes up in a panic and comes in like gets
here like before the show is over. He will wake
up before the show is over. He will not show
to the show before the show is over. That's what
my Mike, my bed is. He will hit us up
on the phones, but he will not make it into
(31:29):
the studio before it sticks. Yeah, yeah, that's my take
on it.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Well, I just hope he's okay. But as soon as
he is okay, he gets whatever comes Nike.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean, I sincerely mean this. I do hope
he's okay too, because like we know why he you know,
has shirts that are cut up. Yeah, laptops that can't
seem to not find their way.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Into a pool.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, maybe his phone might be in the pools.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
It wouldn't be ringing that's ringing, thanks for coming out, thanks.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, tang ringing. It might be him that's in the
pool coming out right.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Wow. I mean if everything else has been cut up
and thrown into the pool and broken and stuff like that,
maybe all that's left is for him to go into
Good Christ by the way, Yeah, I mean, just trying
to draw a conclusion. You know, we're just trying to
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Are we going to get into the uh jack there
it is. I don't know if there's enough time to
get into it now, but are we going to get
into the the people that are complaining about the fact
that Notre Dame is still.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Saw what he just did to you? You saw he
just did it to you?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Right?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
What did you see?
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How?
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Just now? Yeah, he transitioned into coming after.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Well, full disclosure, I did put this as part of
the rundown.
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Yeah, I'm sorry, I saw that you did. But I'm
just saying, yeah, he did come up right. Now.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Let me say this. I think that this is a
much longer conversation, but I'll simply say this. I am
not on board with them being ranked at this moment.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Now.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
I know that's gonna go against a lot of Notre
Dame fans. I understand they lost by four points to
two teams that are now ranked in.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
The top ten.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
I one hundred percent get that, you know, and they
do look like a good football team. But I also
think it's a bad precedent to set when this team
doesn't have any wins yet and there's only four teams
there's only four teams in the top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
That have a loss.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
The name doesn't even have a win. So think about that.
The other twenty one teams are all undefeated. So I
do I understand that. Again, the schedule, it's only two
games and two really tough games.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I get that.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
I just think it's a bad precedent to set and
I think it plays into the narrative because you hear this.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Oh no, it's Notre Dame, so they're just gonna give them.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
They're being ranked in the top twenty five is giving
them a free pass to the college football Playoff.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I hate hearing that.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
And so the reason why I feel this way is
because I want these guys to earn it. I want
them to run the table, beat the life out of
every single opponent, and then I want them to sit
there attend it to at the end of the season.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And you know, again, if ann Wood's the SEC and
if Miami.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Wins the a SEC, they'll have a pretty good, pretty
good argument to be made, right and especially if those
two teams blow out the two teams they play in
the conference championship games.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
But my thing is earn it. Earn it.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
Don't sit there and have someone give it to you
just because you're Notre Dame. Just because you know the
history of the tradition, the brand and all that stuff.
Go out there and earn it. And I don't think
they have at this point yet a lot of football left,
but they will and I can get into it deeper,
but that's my general.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Thought on it. If it pisses people off, I'm into it.
Keep them ranked. If they lose the next two games,
keep them ranked the top twenty five. It's more fun.
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Condom man.
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Who you gotta go get it done? Yee, this one.
Come on, you gotta get out there. You gotta go
get it done.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I got pictures of lemurs on my computer.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Now, did you know.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
That uh lamers eat millipe to get high, Q to
get high. Yeah, they'd be trying to get faded out
there in the in the wild. So they'll like jump at,
you know, millipedes and like get them out, throw them out.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It begs the question if I get a millipede with that.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
I mean, I don't think it would kill you because
it's it is poison. What they're they're using to get high.
But I mean, lemurs are smaller than us, so I
would I would assume it would have maybe the same
effect on you, but just not as not as high.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Oh yeah, you gave them one of least mini bottles.
They'll be an outer space like.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Lemur is a fun name to say if you were high.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, no doubt, limur clean lemur.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
It makes sense for people wondering what a lemur is.
It's those little tiny monkeys with raccoon looking tails, and
they have these bug eyes and they do look stoned.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
It's who is he from Gascar? Oh?
Speaker 6 (02:02):
From Madagascar? Right, Julian is a king, Julian. There you go,
King Julian.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Is it centipedes or millipedes?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Millipedes?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Okay, because we can die from eating centipedes.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Let me look at milliped So there you go, look
at millipede.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
I mean, they could probably.
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All sorts, all sorts of helpful content to keep us alive.
She's trying to keep everyone spry.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
She's posting, are you ready?
Speaker 8 (02:32):
Eating a millipede can cause illness, contain toxins, so you
will get sick, You'll get nauseous, vomiting, skinning, irritation and
an unpleasant taste.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
That's getting high. I mean, that's that's that's that's what
getting high equates. To think about it. When you get drunk,
what do you do? You get nauseous, you throw up.
Sometimes it doesn't taste good. I mean, that's just work. Okay,
So he was he was Lee was eating millipede last night.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, maybe maybe Lee did a shot of millipede last night.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's what it was.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Uh, we missed out on some content that I was
personally hoping to get an update? Can Jonas, can you
enlighten us on what's happened with A Jake Paul Javonte
Davis take David?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Is you think it moved to Miami?
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So it was supposed to be in Georgia and then
the fight got moved to Miami.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Why it was gonna be in Georgia versus Miami or
Vegas or well.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I don't know exactly why there. I think that the
report coming out is that the Georgia Entertainment and Athletic
Commission said that well, uh, they didn't have clearance to
promote the fight the way that they were, and then
Jake Paul and his people said no, tickets were sold. No,
(03:56):
nothing happens, We'll just move it to Miami. I just
I'll be honest with you, after seeing Terence Crawford Canelo Alvarez,
and I don't really have a lot of time for
an exhibition bout between two guys and one's got a
sixty pound weight advantage. And I don't know if part
of the reason why they didn't have full clearance from
the Athletic Commission was because of the weight discrepancy. But
(04:18):
that does happen if they're not if they're not gonna
sanction it, then they'll find some other place it would
I would ask you this though, from a fighter standpoint,
wouldn't you rather have it in Miami for tax purposes? Like,
if you're going to be working there, wouldn't you rather
do it there? So it feels like everybody.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
I have no idea how they are taxed by assumptions
though that, yeah, you'd rather have it a place.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
No citings for Dante to do something like this, says,
I mean, I don't know, man, it's a horrible move
for his his career.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Horrible move. Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
I don't think people judge them, but I think I
think they get paid and they you.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Know, he's still an active fighter, and he's and he's
a very well respected fighter. He just had a tough one,
I mean, and he probably should have lost, but it
was a split. But he's still nonetheless like he's still
wanted the more exciting fighters that are out there. I
just think it turns it into somewhat of a clown show.
(05:26):
I think like part of the discussion about it is
that there might have been an offer on the table, like, hey,
here's the offer, take it now or it's gone.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
It's a ton of money.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And he said, all right, well I'll take the money
now and I'll get.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Back to my it's a ton of money. It's gotta
be a f load of money, man, just just a
ton of money for him to do this.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
It's an exhibition. I'm just not it doesn't do.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
It for me. Sorry, what is he?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I mean, he gains a lot of money off of
doing it, But what else do you gain by fighting?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Jake Paul?
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Like what I mean, you're opening yourself up to an
audience that you know, unless you're boxing fans, I don't
know how many people know Tank Davis, right, Like.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
If you're a streamer or a YouTuber, whatever you'd say.
Jake Paul's audience is this.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Is opening you up to a new world of of
I guess fandom or people who might follow you, is
that he's.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Still he's still undefeated, and he's still one of the
top guys out there. I just think this is this
is it's a bad decision. It's a bad look like
if and I don't. I'm not even a boxing purist,
but I am a fight fan. If you're at the
end of your career, if you're done with your career,
(06:45):
like what Mike Tyson and them are doing, like you
want to put on a wh Yeah, you want to
put on a show, put on a show. But he's
he's still like legit in his career, prime of his career.
This makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It makes no sense, not even for the I want
to gain exposure from from a different It doesn't make sense.
And it also I don't it's not a knock on
Jake Paul because I think what he's done, what Logan
Paul have done, has been fantastic. And I think Jake
Paul's gotten better and better and he's a legit good boxer,
like he's got good skills, but it's always it's never
quite a legit and I don't want to say legit,
(07:26):
but it's never quite a fight that you look at
and go, oh, yeah, I could, because everything's got to
catch to it. Well, it's a retired MMA fighter, or
it's it's this guy who's never boxed professionally before, or
it's Mike Tyson and he's sixty years Well.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Davis Gavante at his size could probably knock Paul out.
He hits hard enough where he could, and he's quick enough,
and he's crafty enough, and he's in his prime where
he could knock Paul out. He could actually knock him out.
The point is, though, they're not going to allow that
(08:02):
to happen. No, you clearly saw Mike Tyson with his
old ass was pulling punches. Damn it was pulling punches. Yeah,
hey man, that bag is a bag. And I'm saying
you go out there, we're gonna spa. I'm gonna make
it through the you know, through the.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I saw his ball bag.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Da that's true.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I just I think I don't think it's I think
it's it's so I don't think it's a good move
for Javonta.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Let me let me ask you has this counter programming?
All right, you've got that fight, it's supposed to be
on November sixteenth, that same night, you've got Clemson at
Louisville College Football, You've got min Minnesota at Oregon, you
know where. That's what I'm saying, like, Yeah, there's just
I feel like there's gonna be other options at that
time that uh, you know, unless maybe you'll take a
peek at it. But and it's on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I believe the thing about it is Jake Paul's turned
himself into the new Floyd Mayweather. And and no not
because he can box and he has the type of
talent and skill that that Floyd had. It's that he's
created a persona that makes people hate him. You either
love him or you hate him. And then when you
(09:15):
look at it from the standpoint of, well, why would
you watch the fight this is now? You watch the
fight with Mike Tyson before going into it and seeing
what happened, you watched it with the idea that even
at Mike's age, he probably could knock Jake Paul out right, So.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's what people are hoping.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
You're hoping that he gets knocked out, and and and
Gravante that it's probably the only this is the first
fight that I would say, even though he's smaller, this
is the first fighter that that I would say could
really knock him out that and and by him doing that,
getting a guy that is in his prime, that that
does have some like out of the ring issues taking place.
(09:56):
That may be the reason why he's taking this fight.
I don't know, he might be spend it not even
able to fight, you know, a sanctioned fight. He still
boxes outside of the ring apparently.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And so look him up. I mean you're fa hearing them.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Little fingers to look that thing up. Yeah, he doesn't stop.
He doesn't stop the jabs.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
He's had some stuff in public at other fights while
he's in the crowd where like he's getting rough.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, you know, you know he's he's tank. He's a
little tank, but little tank tank. But this is the
first one I'd say that people are going to watch
to see. Is this the one where he gets knocked out?
That's that's that's the reason why these fights work. But
that Mike Tyson one just it ruined it. If you're
(10:50):
if you want to watch it for entertainment. Watch it
for entertainment. If you're watching it for anything other than that,
you're dumb.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
They were trying to line up and they were down
the road in negotiations for a Jake Paul Cannelo Alvarez fight.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Which is stupid.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, that's super superd That's what led to the Bud
Crawford fight because then all of it and basically what
ended up happening is Canelo used it as leverage and
Turk al Chic, who runs riodd Season, who's putting all
these massive fights on in Saudi Arabia, he basically just
came to Canelo and said, all right, well how about this.
I'll give you a three fight deal for you know whatever,
(11:29):
hundreds of millions of dollars, and Canelo Avareze is like, yeah,
we're good here because Canelo looks at it like what
you just said, LeVar, I could I could take that
Jake Paul fight after my career is over. When I'm done. Yeah,
I'm done. Yeah, all he wants me to take.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
You want me to take a fall, take a loss
in the exhibition, Like, I'll do what I'm done. I'm
not going to do that while I'm in the middle
of my career and I'm still trying to like get
get big paydays. I mean, Javonte generates a ton of
money for pay per views. I mean he's one of
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He's going to be the one that is now able
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Bud Crawford. But I'm telling you the one that's out
there that nobody is really talking about that that he
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So it's kind of an interesting situation for everybody. This weekend,
Tom Brady's going to be on the call for the
Cowboys and the Bears game, and the following week the
Bears play the Raiders, the team that he's part owner of,
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and so the questions have started to fly. We talked
about it at nauseum this week about you know, conflict
of interest and everything that comes along with it. So
Ben Johnson, the head coach of the Bears, was asked
about Tom Brady's involvement in calling this game, and it
sounded like this, I've.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
Been careful everything I've said since the season starts. I've
been in pure coach speak mode. Me, it's just business
as usual. I'm just fine. I like Tom and we
have a really good relationships. I said, I'm really not
worried about it. I mean, we changed week to week
in terms of what we do. Schematically, He's gonna be
able to turn on the tape and see what everyone
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else in the world's seeing right now. Personnel WI is
really the same thing. It's it's not like I'm gonna
sit down with him, Hey, don't do this to Caleb Williams,
or you might get it like I'm not. There's not
gonna be any trade secrets that are going to be exchanged.
But I just I really don't think it's that big
of a deal, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
With serious question. They added the crowd noise.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Actually I was just gonna say, nothing else is working there,
but at least a laugh track. Is that hallas Hall
got that figured out?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I just don't.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That a pity one did get a pity drum.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
They must all have millipede.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I don't, uh, I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Fail.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I really don't get the uh the outrage. Honestly, I don't.
I feel this feels like it's an opportunity for some
conspiracy bitching. Uh, people want to cite certain things as
to why everything's not on the up and.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Up or et cetera. I just he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
The Raiders won't need whatever intel he gets from the
Bears to beat the Bears.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
They won't.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
They're awful, and it doesn't seem like and I think
Brian Schottenheim even said, you know, everybody's got everybody's got
everybody's playbook, Like everybody knows everything, they know all this stuff.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
It's not really that big of a deal. I mean,
but what if Brady really was doing it? What if
he really what if he really was using this to
make the Las Vegas Raiders better. Let's just say for
one second, the idea of it, the accusation of it
is one true.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
What's the what's what's the end?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
What's the end results? What? What is the what?
Speaker 10 (18:33):
What is?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
What are the implications of it? Can? Can?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Can you guys help me with that? It's one hundred
percent true that Tom Brady is using this to his advantage?
What are the advantages? What are the advantages?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I just like to know.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
He brought up a.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Great point because I've said this forever. This kind of
goes back to the counter style and sign stealing stuff
where people are like, oh, they got their so it's like, well,
teams were changing their signs, so whatever they had from
previous games, they weren't the same for that game. And
there's nothing against in game side stealing, like like looking
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across the sidelines and picking off their signals.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Well, you can get a hold of a tendency like
I don't care if it's a signal from THEE or what.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I don't care. I'm shaking it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
If that's how you categorize it.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Sure, but you literally could look at their their sign
you know, signalers, and you could if you saw sign
you saw who was hot, which guy was the one
setting them in, and you got to beat on it.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You're allowed to do that.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
So I always said, with that situation, so what so
what they had their signs? Every team did it. They
had an idea of it. You could see some stuff
on film. I mean, hell, we watched you know film
in the NFL. You watch for a dB to make
a signal once you adjust from a certain formation, and
you go, okay, that's where they they checked it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Two.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Okay, this is where they check into a Blitzer man.
This is what their signal is for. That's what you're
looking for. So all of a sudden, we believe that
Tom Brady's getting some sort of secret information from these meetings.
He's taken back to Las Vegas. I mean, the whole
thing is just it's so overblown, and I think, like
(20:21):
what people are trying to put out there is and
this is one of the stories aread this week, what
it was if Peyton Manning had a part ownership of
the Denver Broncos. Do you think that Tom Brady would
let anyone in the Raiders' organization, you know, go and
go to meetings or tell Peyton Manny or the Broncos
anything in a production meeting, I'm like, well, first off,
(20:41):
I don't think Payn Manning goes to production meetings. That's
the first thing. For what he does for Monday night football,
I'm pretty sure he does it. The second thing is,
you know, I don't know, probably not, but here's a secret.
Every single coach of every single team I was ever
a part of would tell you not to tell the
production crew anything ever.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Ever.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Ever, So like for all those people out there that
have an issue with this. No one's saying anything anyway.
These production meetings, they're literally for the networks, and you
know who they're for. They're for all the people behind
the scenes. And I'm just gonna say it, and I
know people are probably gonna get upset at Fox or
anyone else I've been.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's not for the analyst, it's not.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
It's for everyone else to feel like they're getting something
out of it, to make them kind of feel a
part of the process. It's for everyone else. It's not
for the analyst. The analyst, if they're doing their job
is watching film. They're able to watch enough film and
gather enough stats. With all the tools you have now,
you don't need a damn thing from any production meeting.
(21:47):
So it's literally to make everyone else feel important and
a part of the process. That's why you have them.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
This isn't back during the days when John madd was
an analyst and John Madden had to talk through every
single player, every single roster, because it was harder to
get tape, it was harder to get reported.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
On all of it. There is actually too much out
there to absorb before a game. Wee get a week out.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
There's there's too much, and half the information gets regurgitated
from analysts to analysts, from network to network, et cetera.
So like this is the most overblowed thing. And I'm
not sure, like if people just have a bow to
pick with Tom Brady or they just want to drum
up sub drama to talk about that.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
They love to not not trust. There's got to be
more to the story. And I don't know if this
is a big picture conversation about you know, nobody trusts
the media anymore or whatnot. But there can it can
never just be yeah, the guys, well no, you can
put this one on. But no, but you can because
I think people are just so accustomed now to like, well,
whatever we're being told isn't the truth. Oh so you
(22:53):
need to tell me tom Brady doesn't have a conflict
of interest, right, Okay, But if he's not getting the
information that would cause there to be a conflict of
interest that would be an advantage towards the Raiders. Why
is it even a discussion If he's not getting any
intel that's going to factor in or change anything happening
in a game, who cares? And also any information that
(23:15):
he wanted to get that would benefit the Raiders. Couldn't
he just get that on his own by talking to people.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
It's not like because he's calling a game, they give
him access to this database that gives you, like the
military secrets of this team.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Aren't you more likely to get that in conversations outside
of those meetings with those teams for games you're calling,
like just just people you know in the AA I'm
hearing this about this.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
See if you're looking at the conflict of interest as
like him having influence over players when he's interviewing them,
because you do get access to talking to the players.
So if they gave him an opportunity to say, Okay,
I get an opportunity to enter you justin Jefferson and
(24:02):
I made like have an exchange with him that is
so good and so pleasant that later on it's like
I remember when we talked during the production meeting, DA
DA DA, this and that and it opens. If you
want to draw that type of conclusion, I could see
if you're looking at conflict of interest that way, But
(24:25):
to base it off of information being being exchanged, it's
super overblown. That is super overblown. Like Ben Johnson said,
I'm going to be in coach mode. He didn't just
go into coach mode because Tom Like, oh, I just
tell it all. But now that Tom Brady's coming, I'm
(24:46):
going into coach mode. Like like Q said, you're already
in coach mode to begin with. You are trained, you
are taught that the enemy is the media. Do not
give them anything of any real substance as it applies
to game plan, injuries, anything of that sort.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
They don't go down those lanes.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
There also is an element to the fact that it
is Tom Brady, and Tom Brady's a former Patriot, and
people will assume the Patriots were pulling shenanigans and there's
deflate Gate and there's Spygate, And I do think there's
an element of that.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
And I think there's still a lot of resentments. It's
why people take.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
This lot of hard work for no reason.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
If you're saying I don't fool with Tom Brady being
in the calling games because of the flate gates.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I think the Patriots. I think the Patriots were so
dominant for so long that there's still any opportunity to
call out Brady for anything, whether it was his performance
as a broadcaster, his conflict of interest, Belichick with you know,
dating the rocket Ship in her twenties and North Carolina
(25:53):
getting annihilated in the first I think people are waiting
to pounce because they were the doormats to a successful
franchy and a successful championship run for two decades, and
there's people that are still resentful to Really.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Brady is an unapologetic dude too. On top of that,
it ain't like he don't he's Tom Brady. He gonna
let you know he Tom Brady too, Like, don't get
it twisted. He is Tom Brady. It ain't no, It's okay,
Like Tom is Tom Brady. He's boldly who he is,
(26:26):
bro And maybe that might be a part of it too. Yes,
he's going to get the Brazilian supermodel, Yes he is. Yes,
he's gonna get what he wants financially, Yes he is. Yes,
he's gonna get part of a team, get team ownership
that probably most other Cats ain't going to be able
to have access to to get a hold of it.
Yes he is, he is Tom Brady. He's gonna let
(26:46):
you know he's Tom Brady. So get used to it
a little bit, be happy about it.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I'm a little surprised that he's calling Cowboys Bears when
the game in the NFC on Fox this week is
Rams Eagles. Like that that is a big game, Like surprise,
they got Joe Davis and Greg Olsen on the call
for that one.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Why are you surprised at that? Brady and uh, that's
Kevin sometimes.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You well, hold on, hold on, hold on which one
do you think will rate higher?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Well, I mean that one because it's in a later
time slot.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Which one's that one?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
The four to twenty five Bears? Cowboys gamble rate.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Higher, but the boy and it's and it's also you're boys.
Cowboys tend to rate high.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
So so you've got not only two big markets in
Dallas and Chicago, you still have the Cowboys. So it's like,
you know, it's putting one of your biggest brands, you
know in that time slot, which is that you could.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Say whatever, that's the biggest bran. Yeah, it's the biggest
so it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, that's the biggest brand.
Wow they stank. Yeah, even though they are the biggest brand,
they the biggest brand is Stank.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I mean Dallas. I think Dallas has been a little
better than the people have thought they have. They can't
stop anybody. But you don't get you don't get brownie
points for losses. Though they just took that first ale,
probably about to take the second al. You don't get
brownie points for losing. Man, they're one in one, right, Yeah,
(28:17):
they beat the giants. They beat the giants with a kicker.
They lost week one, Week one, week.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
One, and it was it was I was, I was unpleasantly.
I was not not happy about how good they looked.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Yeah, if you're playing, if you're playing horseshoes, I mean
that counts, right, You're like, hey, that's a point.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
I mean, hey, it's four, it's four thirty five right now,
isn't it time to play horseshoes with Lee?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Do it again? Like, let's call it like every hour
one hour.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Let's let's less it's while we're talking about grenades and horseshoes, like,
let's let's throw a grenade out there.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
So for those you just joining us, you're one up
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two of the program. We're halfway through the show. Uh
Lee is nowhere to be found. Uh if we've we've
called him, he is not here hoping for the best. Uh,
but Lee is nowhere to be found, and we are
under the impression I was texting with him yesterday. Let's
(29:17):
see if we can get a hold if we called
him seventeen times, by the way, let's see if we.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Can get him. If we can get him, it hits
three rings.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It's bad.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Here's that third ring. It's not going to go well. Nope.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Sorry, you a message and I'll get back to you. Hey, Lee,
you're you're live on the air.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Lee, this is our two.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
We're calling back, getting a little concerned, you know, check
in hope you're alive.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Yeah, Hey Lee, I'm just wondering are you being held
hostage by anyone?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And you don't need to answer the question.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Just say half hour if you're in trouble, okay, just
text us back happy hour. That won't seem odd because
we know that you're it's five o'clock somewhere. We know
that that's how you operate. So just text us happy
hour if you need help.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
This is so.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
All right, Sorry, Cooper're trying to get you out of here.
We're trying.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I mean, Coop, you might as well just finish the
show now, I mean it's it's downhill from here, you know. Yeah,
I guess so it's downhill.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
If you're lucky, he'll show up right before it's.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Time to edit, like nothing happened, like morning buddies, Hey buddy, heybody, Yeah,
it just ran until you know, you.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Think he Carol mom foil last night.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Do you think he wakes up before the show ends
at six o'clock? I think he'll wake up when the
sun comes. What do you think the sweet spot? Well,
it's raining out here.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
It is raining, which which is yeah, which makes it
really sleep too, that's real good sleep.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah, I don't. I think he's gone now. I think
he's going to wake up before the show is over.
He won.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
But here's the thing about him. It's not like he
wakes up in a panic and comes in like gets
here like before the show is over. He will wake
up before the show is over. He will not show
to the show before the show is over. That's what
my Mike, my bed is. He will hit us up
on the phones, but he will not make it into
(31:29):
the studio before it sticks. Yeah, yeah, that's my take
on it.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Well, I just hope he's okay. But as soon as
he is okay, he gets whatever comes Nike.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean, I sincerely mean this. I do hope
he's okay too, because like we know why he you know,
has shirts that are cut up. Yeah, laptops that can't
seem to not find their way.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Into a pool.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, maybe his phone might be in the pools.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
It wouldn't be ringing that's ringing, thanks for coming out, thanks.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, tang ringing. It might be him that's in the
pool coming out right.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Wow. I mean if everything else has been cut up
and thrown into the pool and broken and stuff like that,
maybe all that's left is for him to go into
Good Christ by the way, Yeah, I mean, just trying
to draw a conclusion. You know, we're just trying to
(32:32):
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I know that's gonna go against a lot of Notre
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The top ten.
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That have a loss.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
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games and two really tough games.
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I get that.
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I just think it's a bad precedent to set and
I think it plays into the narrative because you hear this.
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Oh no, it's Notre Dame, so they're just gonna give them.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
They're being ranked in the top twenty five is giving
them a free pass to the college football Playoff.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I hate hearing that.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
And so the reason why I feel this way is
because I want these guys to earn it. I want
them to run the table, beat the life out of
every single opponent, and then I want them to sit
there attend it to at the end of the season.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And you know, again, if ann Wood's the SEC and
if Miami.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Wins the a SEC, they'll have a pretty good, pretty
good argument to be made, right and especially if those
two teams blow out the two teams they play in
the conference championship games.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
But my thing is earn it. Earn it.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
Don't sit there and have someone give it to you
just because you're Notre Dame. Just because you know the
history of the tradition, the brand and all that stuff.
Go out there and earn it. And I don't think
they have at this point yet a lot of football left,
but they will and I can get into it deeper,
but that's my general.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Thought on it. If it pisses people off, I'm into it.
Keep them ranked. If they lose the next two games,
keep them ranked the top twenty five. It's more fun.
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