October 3, 2025 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington kick things off by discussing Duke Head Coach Jon Scheyer getting a contract extension. Next, the guys bring you another edition of Quinn’s Wins. Finally, Caitlin Clark responds to Napheesa Collier’s criticism. Tune in for all that and much more!
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Speaker 6 (02:01):
Thank god for the Internet.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I don't know where you I don't know where you
find out.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Are you a problem? I want you to know that sincerely,
you're on a slippery slope.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Bro, good god, Oh my god, what.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Do you mean by that?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
How do they fit two battleships on a shot glass?
You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
That's a huge bitch, don't I didn't even know what
to believe anymore.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You go on Instagram and it's like, all right, is
this fake?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
AI?
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Like, I.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Take take your word for it. We did have we
did have somebody who was rewarded. That would be Duke
head coach John Shire has been extended through the twenty
thirty twenty thirty one season, so this was the guy
who was picked to take over after Mike Krzyzewski. He's
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slowly but surely gotten the Duchies back to prominence. They've
had some good recruiting, they've had some great players. Whatever
the hell that collapse was in the Final four last
year and not ideal with Cooper flag in a game
that they looked like they were in control. Of over Houston.
But it does say something for somebody who takes over
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for a name like Mike Krzyzewski, and at least it
feels like he's got him heading in the right direction,
because that can't be the easiest job in the world.
I can't imagine who ever took over for Joe Pa
after he left had the easiest job in the world
to try and go in there.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
That's probably the worst compeers that ever.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I mean, I mean from a football standpoint.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
I mean, I've yeah, yeah, that was that was a situation.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Okay, well, I know you're.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Trying to get levard to talk about it, but I'm
not sure that's the way we go. V.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
What are your thoughts in the Shire session.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I mean, I'm listen.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
It is if they feel like it's the best decision
for the Duke program, great, you know, I'm a Duke fan. Obviously,
they they have our guy there as the head coach
of the football team and Manny Diaz, and I really
like Manny, but I mean Duke. You know, if you
know basketball, you know that Duke always has a formidable
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line up, a formidable team, and the standard you know,
has been set by quite a few you know, it's
a short list of guys who have coached the game
and I have impacted the game from the level that
Mike Skizhsky has. And yeah, man, when you have to
follow a guy that has had all that success, all
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the players that he's coached, and and just all the
accolades that go along with just a brilliant career with
what what Mikezwsky did. Yeah, if you're if you're able,
I always say, you never want to be that first guy.
You want to actually be the next guy after, you know,
because you get the opportunity to come in and somebody
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else took all the all the bullets for what you
were going to take, not possibly living up to being
what that legend was that you're replacing.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Sometimes that doesn't work that way.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Bounce back, Kalen de Boris, bounce back.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
He's quite a lot of people one week for one week,
you know, that's how it works for a week.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I would say this though, Shires off to a really
good start.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
You know, not a lot of people go back and
look at the Duke program before coach k got there.
Really took him until his fourth season where they made
the tournament. I mean think about that for a second,
Like it it took until coach K's fourth season before
they made the NCAA tournament. So so granted, this is
going back in the nineteen eighties, but Shire has been
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able to take a program that had one of the
most recognizable figures.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Running it for such a long period of time, and
the model.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Of consistency too with his success there that it's hard
to put your own stamp on it, but I think
John Shire has done that. They've gotten better every single year.
I think they got bounced out in the round of
thirty two, lead eight, final four, and honestly, in the
final four, like Houston was one of those hot teams,
they had a six point lead with forty seven seconds left.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Gag joy. I thought it was an awful.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Foul they call it on Cooper flag off that free throw,
which ultimately led to Houston taking the lead and Duke
losing that game. Now, I'm not sure even if Duke wins,
if they beat Florida, but at the end of the day,
all the number one seeds made it. He was a
part of that, you know, kind of chalky group of
high expectations. Can they make it through? They didn't so
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I love what he's done. I think he's done it
in his own styles, own way. It's a it's a
long term extension form, which is great, I think, great
for recruiting, great for him personally. I do look at
it and just wonder, you know, would he leave people
had talked about so I don't think so, you know,
and look maybe not, you know, maybe he've used this
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as a job that he'll be at like coach k
was until he retires, and maybe this is that job
that if you coveted enough, you know, Duke, North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm not sure what other ones fall into that category.
Are there other way?
Speaker 8 (07:36):
Yukon, Well, I would always see that Ford to be
as as blue blood as it is. What would be
the determining factor of if you would stay or if
you would leave? Outside of obvious money? He played there,
he played at Duke, So to me, I would think
that the you know, the sentimental value of being able
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to coach your I'm a mater and it is a
blue blood program. Where else are you going to go
where you would have the type of feelings that you
would have going to the place where you played and
you know, ultimately you're there coaching.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
That's why I felt dream job.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
That's why I felt bad for like Mike Gundy, although
that you know, he had a long time there. But
Scott Frost, how disastrous that was? Like like that's got
to leave a real sour taste in your mouth, Like, hey,
I'm going back to where it all started and then
it ends the way that it did. And I wonder
how many jobs in college football would you say that's
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the place you don't leave, like a blue blood in
college football where you say I'm not leaving here, because.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
I man, I would have said Notre Dame. And so
Brian Kelly left, He's different. How's that working out for you?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Like?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
But if you think about it, because in college basketball
yet Kentucky Duke, North Carolina, Kansas?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah, buy Cali Perry left left him to Kansas.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
How did I fail to remember Kansas? Chase?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Well, they've you know, sorry, it's not been the same.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
No, I mean it's a blue blood that I should
have been. You know, you would have said Indiana twenty
years ago? Right, and this I mean back LeVar when
you were in college, Like Indiana was the team football wise?
Or basketball? Basketball?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah? Basketball? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean
that that program. I think the tough part too, is is.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
How they handle the transition, you know, from certain legend
is you know, Coach k to John Shire was probably
easier than Bobby Knight to whoever was next like that,
just you were not going to emulate that style again.
You probably could never even coach that way again.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But you look at Indiana since then, they've struggled.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Been any good?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Uh, And that's a program that has all the resources.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
If you don't think any program is if you ask
is there programs that exist that you wouldn't want to leave? Sure,
it's the job that you have. And and when you
want to leave is when there is an opportunity that
comes your way that is worth leaving. And that's just
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the reality of it. So it's listen, it's hard to
get jobs. And then you get a job out of
place like Duke, even if I wasn't an alumni of
the school, to get a quality gig like that, why
would you ever want to leave outside of Again, what
(10:30):
the obvious would be, which is I get a better
opportunity with stability. Maybe they give me a guaranteed contract,
maybe they give me a little bit more power in
terms of what I'm able to do as the coach,
the resources that are coming our way as a program,
like there are things that practically, you know, the practical
(10:51):
thought of it. Yeah, you wouldn't leave even if it
was a blue blood, a traditional, amazing college. But I
would find it hard to believe that if you go
to a place that that really really has that type
of a program like Duke has. There's probably so much
there in terms of resources that it wouldn't make sense
(11:14):
to leave, other than to think that maybe the inevitable
was coming, which was they were probably thinking of getting
getting rid of you anyway, something to that effect.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I would say, where would you say if James Franklin
or if Marcus Freeman were to leave that you would say, oh,
that's a step up from where you are.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I don't the NFL.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Yeah, somebody say for Marcus Ohio State because that's his
alma mater, and it is you know, it's a program
that has been built up, it's had a ton of success,
It's obviously had success versus entertain So I think some
might throw that in there, but I just, I mean,
I'm not sure what are their jobs out there in
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college football?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You throw them category.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
I don't think there is.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I think there's a you could go, but I think
him even going to Ohio State would be a parallel
or excuse me, a horizontal move. It'd be a side step.
I don't think that would be a step up in
terms of brands. I don't think it would be a
step up. Like you said, the sentimental value that he
was a LB there, like, okay, that may make sense,
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but I mean sometimes familiarity can can breed, you know
that that whole contempt, and sometimes it could work against you,
you know, like people expect things of you, you know,
whatever it may be. It may be fair, maybe unfair,
but it isn't always great going to be at the
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place where you came from. You know, you're just you
just may be judged differently. So, I mean, you mentioned
Scott Frost, and how do you feel after after you've
been what you've been to them as a player, you
go there and it doesn't work out the way you like,
because at some point it's not going to work out,
Like that's kind of the coaching the coaching profession. At
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some point it's not going to work out. So at
that point in time, how do you feel about the breakup,
like is it worth?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Is it worth.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Ruining your your feelings of the institution that that you
went and got educated at.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
It's got a tainted for a little bit at least, it's.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
Got to, if not forever, you got to feel like
you were let down, because what coach ever feels like
they really should be fired. I mean honestly, like give
me another chance, Like you're a competitor, Like give me
a little bit more time.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Mike, Mike.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So, Mike Gundy was at in Stillwater for thirty five
years in some capacity, and he could probably I mean
there's probably hard feelings and he's bummed out, but I
would say after a certain amount of time, I could
see him being like, yeah, but you know what, it
was a great run to just run its course. Scott
Frost was a disaster, like it was bad.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Well, I'm I mean, look bad the way it ended,
we can call it a disaster. There was some issues
kind of early on.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
There was times where you felt like maybe they were
about ready to kind of break, you know, kind of
build it up, and it just never really got there.
And I think part of the issue is and Matt
Rule's done a great job now and looking at their
administration office now and how they viewed Nebraska is a
lot of the older blue blood programs, they have to
kind of change the way they think and see their
(14:27):
program within today's world. Like it's almost like when people
say that that phrase, like meet people where they are,
it's the exact same thing to me when you go
about hiring a coach for some of these blue blood programs,
like you have to meet that program where they are.
Too many times or too often you'll find programs that
are blue blood programs that are live in the past
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and they're trying to meet a coach who's trying to
take them into the twenty first century, and they're still
hanging on to the stuff they did in the past.
And then they come up and they say, well, that's
not how we do it here, or that's not our tradition. Look,
it's twenty twenty five. The college sports world has been
(15:11):
turned upside down, between nil the transfer portal, the amount
of money that's now involved, Like there wasn't like this
thirty years ago, tv rights deals, even what coaches were
being paid. I think Philip Folmer is the first coach
to make a million bucks that was like twenty five
years ago.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Think about that. Now guys get like ten million a year.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Was he really the first Jesus?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And so the reality to what LeVar said too.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
And the point is it's hard to stay someplace like
Gundi did or anywhere else, because you'll get to a
point where someone looks the job you're doing and they
think you're overpaid. They think you're compensated too much. And
when you're at john Shire, just to go back to
how he got into this subject, someone comes to you
and just says, you know, hey, you had a subpar
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season with a great recruiting class.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Happened.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
You know, There's gonna be times with those injuries. There's
gonna be times we have bad years. There's gonna be
times when you miss on guys or guys are slow
to develop, you're not quite there. People don't want to
hear that when they're at some of the top programs.
They believe that they should always live at the top.
So you know, it becomes a really really difficult task.
I think for you know what, John Shire or anyone
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else who goes back to their alma mater, albeit a
blue blood where those expectations are there every single year
for them. So I'm happy for me you got the extension.
I think he deserves it. He's done a tremendous shob
filling in for coach k Not many people could do
something like that. But how do you guys feel about
the NCAA tournament expanding the seventy six teams?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And I see that, right, it's just what we need.
Let's throw some more teams in there. Why not? They
have to have more because we can't figure it out
in sixty eight teams. Let's add more. What is this
seventy six? Now? Why don't just make it an even
eighty and just go from there.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I mean, and I don't know if you care or not,
but I look at it.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
I go, all right, look at most professional sports leagues,
they don't quite have half the teams make it. It's
usually somewhere below that, like forty percent, forty four, whatever
it is. I mean, you think about the NFL, is
fourteen teams make it? Now out of thirty two, what's
the what's the NBA had? How many teams making the NBA?
(17:18):
I guess if you count the plan because that really
is part of the tournament. Even though it's they don't
technically make it part of the tournament.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I'm not sure what else do you call anything after
the regular season?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Twenty plan there you go.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
So there's there's a much greater percentage of teams at
least the pro level.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
This is about. And this is the funny thing. I
was like researching this.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I go how many Division one men's basketball teams are there?
And every single site was like more than three hundred
and fifty. How'm like, so there's not an exact number,
like they're like, it's like an ebbs and flows of
programs that are like Division one or not. Anyway, the
point is if you just seventy six, that's like football too. Yeah,
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but it's a little more standile. There's like one hundred
and thirty four. Like I could give you an exact number,
you know, like last shock, I can give you an
exact number.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's just weird and you're like looking it up. It's
hard to get an exact number.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
But a little less than twenty two percent of the
teams when I was shot at making it, And so
I don't know if like you look at that and
you go, all right, like maybe college football should have more.
College football is like nine percent, there's like one hundred
and thirty four teams twelve make it something like that,
which I mean and by the way, I'm not even
sure if we could really.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Make it harder to figure out, it would be way
harder to figure out how to keep adding teams without
impacting the season because you only have so much time. Like, yeah,
I mean the ability to be able to play the
games quicker. You know the fact that you can play
a game today, then you can play a game after
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one day's rest. Hell and basketball, you could play it.
You could play more than one game and one day, right.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Right, But but again you're looking back to the NFL model,
you have fourteen to thirty two. So like what you
do is you would do away with the conference championship games.
And so if you want to go to sixteen, or
even if you want to go to thirty two, you
do it with conference championship games. Those games are now
sold as part of the expanded playoff package.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And then you have the regular season.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
When they play nine conference games or ten conference games
if you get there. That's how they determine who the
conference champion is, and they'll do it based on they'll
be tie breaking scenarios and all that stuff, but like
that's ultimately how do you do it? I mean, that's
how we do divisions in the NFL, It's how we
do I mean, we eventually playoff for a conference championship.
So maybe maybe that format, that expanded format. You know,
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they play through some sort of semi final then final
for their conference and those are like part of the
playoff but also qualifiers to ultimately.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Win the conference.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
You know, maybe you go that route, but that would
that'd be assuming that all things are equal.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Then that's the problem with college football is we don't
look at we don't look at the.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
ACC the Big twelve as equals to the Big ten
of the SEC. So it kind of stands in their
way of that that thought at least. But I don't know,
I don't have a problem with it. I mean, I
love that time of year. I think it's so much fun.
If people haven't been to Vegas during that time of year,
it's it's absolutely electric.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
So you know, I don't know that game's more fun.
I don't know if there is a solution to this.
But when I look at College of Basketball and I
go what could they do to improve it? I don't
think let's add more teams to the NCAA Tournament. I think,
why don't you make the regular season better? Like the
focus should be on how can we make the regular
season more entertaining and better, especially if it's in the
middle for a decent amount, if it's in the middle
(20:38):
of football season, and I just like, instead it'd say, well,
let's just add on to the NCAA tournament. Man just
sixty eight's fine, it's awesome, Like it's awesome about it is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But when has the regular season ever mattered for college basketball?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Man? Fact Like it used to be to where you
would get excited about big matchups in college basketball, like
Big mondays the East.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
That was when the Big East was the Big East
and stuff like that. It's not.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
The landscape of the game has changed so dramatically, man Like.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
It's it's it's not the same.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
You don't get to know the players the way that
you you used to. It's the bonds between the players
and the fans that the relationship.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
It's not. It's it's just not the same.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
The landscape doesn't allow for it in college basketball.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
It's it's just it's very different.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
It's it's very transactional, and it's always Basketball has always
been a very transactional type of sport, but it's even
more so nowadays. I mean, even knowing coaches is difficult.
I mean back in the day, you knew it was
a Tartanian, you knew it was a Fisher, or or
a Thompson, you know, a Nolan Richardson, you know, or Harrison,
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Nolan Harrison. You know Richards Richardson, Richard richards Yeah, Harrison
was my teammate. That Nolan Harrison was my teammate. But yeah,
I mean you knew who these guys were, and you
knew who the players were, you know, and that's what
created such signature, you know, signature brands like Duke, you know,
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and and coaches like Mike Krzyzewski. It's not really like
that anymore. It's not so you have a different you
have a different level of trying to market, brand and promote,
you know, the game of college basketball, especially the regular season,
because you don't know nobody, you know, there's no real
connection to it. You're not looking at it like, all right,
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is this the team? I mean, there was a little
bit of it with Duke last year, like how good
could they be But you know, you were looking at
teams and like, can this team go undefeated? And you're
looking at the coach, you know the coach, You're looking
at the players, you know the players. It's like it's
just not like that too much anymore.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Speaking of which, I saw Rick Patino at the Yankees
game last night.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Looks great.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, just hanging out. Yeah, just just watched it. Yeah,
it looks great.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
How jeans?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah, you know, okay, guy, how about those Yankees. By
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Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm a winner.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Listen up.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Winning cures all illnesses. It really does.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I'm going to win. It's Quinn's wind. Yeah yeah, all right.
We have to own up. We have to recap last week.
It was a rough week.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Rough Week one five and one picked a lot of
the big boy games. Bama Georgia was conflicted. Went with
Georgia Bama got took care of business. LSU gett a
point and a half at Old Miss. Just kind of
needed to see it from Old Miss. Obviously, they proved
me wrong with that one too. Florida State at UVA.
(27:23):
What a win for Uva. They had to juice the
entire time that game. That was I don't want to
say shocking, but definitely surprising. Chandler Morris played his tail
off happy for the Cavaliers. Wahu wa to see them
perform that way, but it definitely didn't kill one of
those bets.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Washington versus Ohio State.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
I really thought first road Big Ten game for the
Buckeyes might be some troubles, but that defense is legit.
I mean, Don Williams Junior is a really good player.
Jonah Coleman's one of the best running backs in the
Big Ten. Denzel Boston, I mean, they've got players, now
tell them six points.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
And then USC Illinois, I'll be the first to tell you,
uh that secondary fair ill Ainoyan.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I think they were missing four or five starters. And
if there's one thing.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
That USC going into that game does extremely well store
on the football round.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
They still did it.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
But Illinois's offense stepped up a completely different team from
what we saw the week prior versus Indiana, So a
number of losses. Tough to go buy TCU Arizona State.
They pushed and then obviously the only winner. I took
the three and a half points in Oregon, who obviously
went out right. Well, yeah, I had to recap it.
But this week's games another week with a lot of
(28:40):
big lines here, LeVar, I know your sensitive about it.
There's nothing I can do, all right, they can't win
a white I don't. I don't know to tell you,
all right, Autohouse State, I know, trust me. I knew
this was going to come up. I knew it would
be a soft spot for you.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Yeah, nothing we can do about it, though, all right,
do your wins, all right?
Speaker 7 (28:59):
This week we've got Dabo what ten and sixteen on
the season, so below five hundred.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Not that last week kind of tarpoon things.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
But we're gonna get back on track this week, and
it starts off with a battle on the ACC Dabo
or Dabbo, depending on how some people call them.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Pointoi for some reason calls them Dabo.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
It's weird.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Clemson's taken on UNC and they're laying what thirteen and
a half? Last time I checked fourteen fourteen? Around fourteen
now there on DraftKings. At some point, Clemson's gotta figure
this out, right, I mean at some point, and I
would imagine there will probably more Clemson fans in Chapel
Hill than North Carolina. I mean, that's that's my bet
(29:40):
on this. But Clemson's the way more talented team, It's
a proven track record. This year has been rough, but
I think this could be a get back on track
game for them. I'm gonna lay the fourteen points and
Clemson on the road here. Next up one that should
make LeVar Arrton happy. Penn State traveling out to LA
to take on the Bruins. The Brugans have already fired
their head coach. They're struggling offensively. This is a get
(30:02):
right game for James Franklin. Historically he's had no issue
whatsoever covering these big spreads.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And the line is twenty four and a half. Lay them.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Penn State will pound UCLA, not be on to score,
and then Penn State's offense will run.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All over the UCLA defense. So love laying the big
number there.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
With the Ndney Lions Next up, a sneaky, really good battle,
and you wonder if Washington gets beat twice by Ohio
State or how they come out of that game. Washington's
going to head all the way across the country to
Maryland and they're getting.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Six and a half points.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
I thought the udub offense got a little bit exposed
last week Versusale State defense. Although there's just kind of
that good. But I've been hyping up Malak Washington all
year long, the true freshman quarterback. He could sling it
and they've got playmakers on the outside. So I like
Maryland at home. Tough game, big game, but a West
Coast team that you know, again, different time zones. I'll
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take the six and a half in Maryland. Next up,
another great matchup. This Houston team has I would say
exceeded expectations probably for most of the Big Twelve, but
a big number here. They're hosting Texas Tech, who I
believe to be the best team in the Big Twelve.
But in eleven and a half points, that's the number.
It's a little bit too much for me. I think
(31:19):
this Houston team can score with others. Barren more than
the quarterback for Texas Tech. Remember he was knocked out
the last game they played versus Utah. Will Hammond came in,
played phenomenal more will be back for this one. So
go in and take the eleven and a half points
with Houston and our final matchup TCU at home taken
on Colorado.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's a big number. It's thirteen and a half points. Look,
I think this Colorado team has struggled.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
They've they've kind of had a rotating charo quarterback there
for them and on the road versus a team that
I think TCU is flying under the radar as one
of the best teams in the Big Twelve. So I'm
laying the thirteen and a half points. See who's lost
two of their last three. The struggling to put up points,
especially when they face powerful competition, only average about twenty
points of games. So joshuaver has been phenomenal this year
(32:05):
for TCU. I like the Horned Frogs. Lay the thirteen
and a half.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Here's what I'm talking about right there? You know what?
What a persevere Yeah, buddy, maybe this would be a
better week. Rough week, crazy week in college football. Get
them up off the stool ready for another round.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well, I mean again, weeks.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
Ago three and one really could have been four and
ol but said we got cut out cut when's whens.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's like if a tree falls, it's like it never existed.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
A tree falls in the forest. Is anybody here?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You know?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
By the way, uh Houston now getting twelve and a
half on twelve and a half.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
So I moved up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah, so, uh so there's that.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
But uh but we are in agreement that Penn State's
going to lay the hamber on UCLA.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Throttle them, come on, throttle them. And if they don't,
and if they don't, I'm taking out of Lvar.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
I'm letting you know that right now, LaVar like no
bs like I know it means so much to you know,
it's er all my money, I get all that.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But at some point your boys got to start playing
up through the capabilities.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
I hope.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
So that's all I can say. I mean, I don't play,
and I don't cope, So all I can do is
root and hope and and yeah, do you get nervous
feel good about this week?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Do you get nervous watching your Alma maters play?
Speaker 8 (33:30):
I don't get nervous. I just I want to see
them win, that's all. Yeah, I get I feel the feelings,
I feel the emotions of it.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
For certain absolutely I was.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean again, I'll pull back the curt a little bit.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
You know, it's starting a collective and being like more
intricately involved you you kind of have to separate the
emotional from you know, your your fandom for it, because
otherwise you can get kind of wrapped up into it.
But when you start to get to know some of
the players and that whole thing, it just it lends
you to to not get nervous but get excited, and
(34:06):
then you know when there's losses, your soul searching at times.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So I can only imagine what it's like for LeVar.
I don't have a son yet that's playing, so.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
That would if I had a kid who was on
the team, I could be I don't know, yeah, i'd
I'd be a mess.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I'm probably gonna be a mess.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
I think you'd be good. It's always you always think
it's going to be something that it's not. Like when
I got drafted, I thought i'd cry, like, oh my gosh,
I finally made it.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
They call my name. I was like all right, let's go,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Like it seems like every significant moment I thought I
would cry when I saw my daughter and my son
on the field for the first time.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
No, oh my god, you got no heart. Huh, you
do have a heart. I'm not numb at all, not
at all.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
What is going on?
Speaker 6 (34:56):
It just doesn't It just doesn't play out that way.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
It's like I feel more triumphant, like I feel like
strong in that moment, like dang, like look at my daughter,
or look at look at my boy coming out on
the field.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Like I got emotion on my son's T ball game,
at his te ball game, I got a try I
hit it. I just and my wife was like, are
you crying? Like are you are you crying? I was
like no, it's just I'm so happy for him. Like, well,
here's more happiness.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I kiss my ass.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
No frighting fall, that is true.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
I think sometimes sometimes emotions get me. Like I saw
one of my kids that I mentored since he was
in the sixth grade seventh grade and was with him
all the way through and he ended up going to
Penn State and and played at Penn State. Finished that marshal,
but he just became a fireman and and I saw
(35:55):
him for the first time, and I got, I welled up.
I got a little teary eyd I had. I had
a kid I mentored that ended up becoming a marine,
and and a lot of it was the time we
had spent and you know, just bonded, and he ended
up seeing himself being more than just a football player,
(36:15):
and it turned into him going into the military, and
he's living an amazing life now. And he just had twins,
which is pretty cool. But I cried at his wedding,
like I had, I had, I got welled up at
his wedding. I think I think it was significant seeing
my son and daughter on the field. But I think
I think what would make it more emotional is if
(36:37):
there was something I don't I don't know, like something
a little bit more to it, like if they're like
in the National Championship game.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Or I don't know, you know how cool it's going
to be if he gets some burn time and it's
the first time and it's at the Rose Bowl this weekend.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
That would be pretty cool, man, awesome, that would be me.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
You were just there too, You're just there this week, Yeah, yesterday,
think about think about like that, like omen you know.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
I mean, and he wasn't supposed to travel, you know,
so there's there's always an effect of it. Yeah, And
I'll make sure I have my my Louisiana Hot Sauce
in my back pocket too.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You know.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
It's the perfect balance of Pepper's, you know, vinegar and salt.
And if I am able to have some wings, nachos
or burgers while I'm there at the game, well, I'll
make sure I hit a couple of tailgates up, get
some food and use that bold, handcrafted flavor of the
original Louisiana Hot Sauce. That's Louisiana Hot guys by you something.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
That I was just gonna say that, man, just gonna
I was thinking the same thing, man. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Coming up next here we are going to have a
discussion about a real hot topic in the world of sports.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
But should it be right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 4 (38:05):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
off top of next hour a little over ten minutes
from now. Somebody in the NFL not thrilled, not thrilled
they're taking accountability, but apparently the team is pissed. We'll
get into that for you again coming up here a
little over ten minutes from now. You guys have some
(38:28):
thoughts on the WNBA commissioner kind of ripping into Caitlin
Clark and some of their players. And now you've got
players from the WNBA that have now taken shots at
the commissioner saying, you know, we've got really poor leadership,
et cetera, et cetera. I'll be honest with you, I
think a lot of this conversation about the WNBA is manufactured.
(38:53):
It feels like this is ESPN and others are really
trying to force the WNBA down. Everybody's throat have of
that golf clap, and I just I have a hard
time getting into some of the drama in the WNBA
anymore tried to give it a chance. It just feels
like somebody's always complaining about something and they're all there's
(39:14):
always infighting in the league, and I don't understand it.
Speaker 8 (39:18):
Yeah, I don't understand these topics today. Man, y'all got
this cause I don't, you know, I don't care like that.
The WNBA is like what, it's the playoffs right now?
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I don't even know.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
They're still going on. It's the playoffs, Yeah, it is
the playoffs. I think the finals are about to start.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
All right, the Mercury play the Aces, Like that's what
we have going on right now? Okay, yeah, Like, if
anybody on this show can name me two players off
of each team, two like right now, no looking up,
no cheating. If you can name me two players off
of the Murky Theory and the Aces right now, I
(40:02):
give you straight props, straight props, three, two one exactly.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Nobody knows because nobody cares.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
And listen, I know that there are some avid sports
fans out there or that are super dedicated to the
w NBA the sport in general.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I'm a supporter of women's sports. I'm not. I'm not
trying to diminish women's sports.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
I'm really not. I'm just saying I'm just not. Really,
I don't know I'm not me personally. I'm just not
into it, that's all. I love volleyball, love volleyball.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I just think everything about the everything about that league
is drama and not the good kind. And I just
I have a really hard time giving it any attention
or giving it.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Anythun till you watched all the games.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
No, I don't really not a fan. I'm sorry you're
betting on some of them now. I mean, let'sten, I'll
bet on it, but I'll bet on anything. I bet
on a horse to run backwards during COVID so but
think I actually won that one? Yeah, big time.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I just quickly asked this though, what league and what league?
Do the players like the commissioner?
Speaker 5 (41:15):
None?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
So, like, why is this a surprise?
Speaker 7 (41:19):
Like we're acting like there's there're all there's disgruntlement between
the commissioner and the players.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 7 (41:28):
Out the commissioner works for the owners, Like there's always
that dividing line.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
They don't care about the players. It's all bs like.
I mean, that's the reality of it.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
I just think everything that was okay with me, Every
storyline that comes out of there is drama. Like it's
just like, why can't they just make it hot? But
can't they make it spicy?
Speaker 6 (41:55):
You know, we gotta do it again.
Speaker 8 (41:57):
We got to do spicy on to make sure you
do Louisiana hot, all right, spicy hot, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
What it is.
Speaker 8 (42:04):
Let's taste good on your food, your your wings, your nachos,
all that stuff.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Just make sure you use some Louisiana hot alright, and
buy you some
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Speaker 6 (02:01):
Thank god for the Internet.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I don't know where you I don't know where you
find out.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Are you a problem? I want you to know that sincerely,
you're on a slippery slope.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Bro, good god, Oh my god, what.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Do you mean by that?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
How do they fit two battleships on a shot glass?
You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
That's a huge bitch, don't I didn't even know what
to believe anymore.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You go on Instagram and it's like, all right, is
this fake?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
AI?
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Like, I.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Take take your word for it. We did have we
did have somebody who was rewarded. That would be Duke
head coach John Shire has been extended through the twenty
thirty twenty thirty one season, so this was the guy
who was picked to take over after Mike Krzyzewski. He's
(03:17):
slowly but surely gotten the Duchies back to prominence. They've
had some good recruiting, they've had some great players. Whatever
the hell that collapse was in the Final four last
year and not ideal with Cooper flag in a game
that they looked like they were in control. Of over Houston.
But it does say something for somebody who takes over
(03:38):
for a name like Mike Krzyzewski, and at least it
feels like he's got him heading in the right direction,
because that can't be the easiest job in the world.
I can't imagine who ever took over for Joe Pa
after he left had the easiest job in the world
to try and go in there.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
That's probably the worst compeers that ever.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I mean, I mean from a football standpoint.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
I mean, I've yeah, yeah, that was that was a situation.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Okay, well, I know you're.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Trying to get levard to talk about it, but I'm
not sure that's the way we go. V.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
What are your thoughts in the Shire session.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I mean, I'm listen.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
It is if they feel like it's the best decision
for the Duke program, great, you know, I'm a Duke fan. Obviously,
they they have our guy there as the head coach
of the football team and Manny Diaz, and I really
like Manny, but I mean Duke. You know, if you
know basketball, you know that Duke always has a formidable
(04:39):
line up, a formidable team, and the standard you know,
has been set by quite a few you know, it's
a short list of guys who have coached the game
and I have impacted the game from the level that
Mike Skizhsky has. And yeah, man, when you have to
follow a guy that has had all that success, all
(05:00):
the players that he's coached, and and just all the
accolades that go along with just a brilliant career with
what what Mikezwsky did. Yeah, if you're if you're able,
I always say, you never want to be that first guy.
You want to actually be the next guy after, you know,
because you get the opportunity to come in and somebody
(05:20):
else took all the all the bullets for what you
were going to take, not possibly living up to being
what that legend was that you're replacing.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Sometimes that doesn't work that way.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Bounce back, Kalen de Boris, bounce back.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
He's quite a lot of people one week for one week,
you know, that's how it works for a week.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I would say this though, Shires off to a really
good start.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
You know, not a lot of people go back and
look at the Duke program before coach k got there.
Really took him until his fourth season where they made
the tournament. I mean think about that for a second,
Like it it took until coach K's fourth season before
they made the NCAA tournament. So so granted, this is
going back in the nineteen eighties, but Shire has been
(06:05):
able to take a program that had one of the
most recognizable figures.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Running it for such a long period of time, and
the model.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Of consistency too with his success there that it's hard
to put your own stamp on it, but I think
John Shire has done that. They've gotten better every single year.
I think they got bounced out in the round of
thirty two, lead eight, final four, and honestly, in the
final four, like Houston was one of those hot teams,
they had a six point lead with forty seven seconds left.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Gag joy. I thought it was an awful.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Foul they call it on Cooper flag off that free throw,
which ultimately led to Houston taking the lead and Duke
losing that game. Now, I'm not sure even if Duke wins,
if they beat Florida, but at the end of the day,
all the number one seeds made it. He was a
part of that, you know, kind of chalky group of
high expectations. Can they make it through? They didn't so
(06:59):
I love what he's done. I think he's done it
in his own styles, own way. It's a it's a
long term extension form, which is great, I think, great
for recruiting, great for him personally. I do look at
it and just wonder, you know, would he leave people
had talked about so I don't think so, you know,
and look maybe not, you know, maybe he've used this
(07:21):
as a job that he'll be at like coach k
was until he retires, and maybe this is that job
that if you coveted enough, you know, Duke, North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm not sure what other ones fall into that category.
Are there other way?
Speaker 8 (07:36):
Yukon, Well, I would always see that Ford to be
as as blue blood as it is. What would be
the determining factor of if you would stay or if
you would leave? Outside of obvious money? He played there,
he played at Duke, So to me, I would think
that the you know, the sentimental value of being able
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to coach your I'm a mater and it is a
blue blood program. Where else are you going to go
where you would have the type of feelings that you
would have going to the place where you played and
you know, ultimately you're there coaching.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
That's why I felt dream job.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
That's why I felt bad for like Mike Gundy, although
that you know, he had a long time there. But
Scott Frost, how disastrous that was? Like like that's got
to leave a real sour taste in your mouth, Like, hey,
I'm going back to where it all started and then
it ends the way that it did. And I wonder
how many jobs in college football would you say that's
(08:37):
the place you don't leave, like a blue blood in
college football where you say I'm not leaving here, because.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
I man, I would have said Notre Dame. And so
Brian Kelly left, He's different. How's that working out for you?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Like?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
But if you think about it, because in college basketball
yet Kentucky Duke, North Carolina, Kansas?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah, buy Cali Perry left left him to Kansas.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
How did I fail to remember Kansas? Chase?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Well, they've you know, sorry, it's not been the same.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
No, I mean it's a blue blood that I should
have been. You know, you would have said Indiana twenty
years ago? Right, and this I mean back LeVar when
you were in college, Like Indiana was the team football wise?
Or basketball? Basketball?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah? Basketball? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean
that that program. I think the tough part too, is is.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
How they handle the transition, you know, from certain legend
is you know, Coach k to John Shire was probably
easier than Bobby Knight to whoever was next like that,
just you were not going to emulate that style again.
You probably could never even coach that way again.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But you look at Indiana since then, they've struggled.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Been any good?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Uh, And that's a program that has all the resources.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
If you don't think any program is if you ask
is there programs that exist that you wouldn't want to leave? Sure,
it's the job that you have. And and when you
want to leave is when there is an opportunity that
comes your way that is worth leaving. And that's just
(10:09):
the reality of it. So it's listen, it's hard to
get jobs. And then you get a job out of
place like Duke, even if I wasn't an alumni of
the school, to get a quality gig like that, why
would you ever want to leave outside of Again, what
(10:30):
the obvious would be, which is I get a better
opportunity with stability. Maybe they give me a guaranteed contract,
maybe they give me a little bit more power in
terms of what I'm able to do as the coach,
the resources that are coming our way as a program,
like there are things that practically, you know, the practical
(10:51):
thought of it. Yeah, you wouldn't leave even if it
was a blue blood, a traditional, amazing college. But I
would find it hard to believe that if you go
to a place that that really really has that type
of a program like Duke has. There's probably so much
there in terms of resources that it wouldn't make sense
(11:14):
to leave, other than to think that maybe the inevitable
was coming, which was they were probably thinking of getting
getting rid of you anyway, something to that effect.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I would say, where would you say if James Franklin
or if Marcus Freeman were to leave that you would say, oh,
that's a step up from where you are.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I don't the NFL.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Yeah, somebody say for Marcus Ohio State because that's his
alma mater, and it is you know, it's a program
that has been built up, it's had a ton of success,
It's obviously had success versus entertain So I think some
might throw that in there, but I just, I mean,
I'm not sure what are their jobs out there in
(11:57):
college football?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You throw them category.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
I don't think there is.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I think there's a you could go, but I think
him even going to Ohio State would be a parallel
or excuse me, a horizontal move. It'd be a side step.
I don't think that would be a step up in
terms of brands. I don't think it would be a
step up. Like you said, the sentimental value that he
was a LB there, like, okay, that may make sense,
(12:24):
but I mean sometimes familiarity can can breed, you know
that that whole contempt, and sometimes it could work against you,
you know, like people expect things of you, you know,
whatever it may be. It may be fair, maybe unfair,
but it isn't always great going to be at the
(12:46):
place where you came from. You know, you're just you
just may be judged differently. So, I mean, you mentioned
Scott Frost, and how do you feel after after you've
been what you've been to them as a player, you
go there and it doesn't work out the way you like,
because at some point it's not going to work out,
Like that's kind of the coaching the coaching profession. At
(13:08):
some point it's not going to work out. So at
that point in time, how do you feel about the breakup,
like is it worth?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Is it worth.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Ruining your your feelings of the institution that that you
went and got educated at.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
It's got a tainted for a little bit at least, it's.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
Got to, if not forever, you got to feel like
you were let down, because what coach ever feels like
they really should be fired. I mean honestly, like give
me another chance, Like you're a competitor, Like give me
a little bit more time.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Mike, Mike.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So, Mike Gundy was at in Stillwater for thirty five
years in some capacity, and he could probably I mean
there's probably hard feelings and he's bummed out, but I
would say after a certain amount of time, I could
see him being like, yeah, but you know what, it
was a great run to just run its course. Scott
Frost was a disaster, like it was bad.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Well, I'm I mean, look bad the way it ended,
we can call it a disaster. There was some issues
kind of early on.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
There was times where you felt like maybe they were
about ready to kind of break, you know, kind of
build it up, and it just never really got there.
And I think part of the issue is and Matt
Rule's done a great job now and looking at their
administration office now and how they viewed Nebraska is a
lot of the older blue blood programs, they have to
kind of change the way they think and see their
(14:27):
program within today's world. Like it's almost like when people
say that that phrase, like meet people where they are,
it's the exact same thing to me when you go
about hiring a coach for some of these blue blood programs,
like you have to meet that program where they are.
Too many times or too often you'll find programs that
are blue blood programs that are live in the past
(14:49):
and they're trying to meet a coach who's trying to
take them into the twenty first century, and they're still
hanging on to the stuff they did in the past.
And then they come up and they say, well, that's
not how we do it here, or that's not our tradition. Look,
it's twenty twenty five. The college sports world has been
(15:11):
turned upside down, between nil the transfer portal, the amount
of money that's now involved, Like there wasn't like this
thirty years ago, tv rights deals, even what coaches were
being paid. I think Philip Folmer is the first coach
to make a million bucks that was like twenty five
years ago.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Think about that. Now guys get like ten million a year.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Was he really the first Jesus?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And so the reality to what LeVar said too.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
And the point is it's hard to stay someplace like
Gundi did or anywhere else, because you'll get to a
point where someone looks the job you're doing and they
think you're overpaid. They think you're compensated too much. And
when you're at john Shire, just to go back to
how he got into this subject, someone comes to you
and just says, you know, hey, you had a subpar
(15:57):
season with a great recruiting class.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Happened.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
You know, There's gonna be times with those injuries. There's
gonna be times we have bad years. There's gonna be
times when you miss on guys or guys are slow
to develop, you're not quite there. People don't want to
hear that when they're at some of the top programs.
They believe that they should always live at the top.
So you know, it becomes a really really difficult task.
I think for you know what, John Shire or anyone
(16:21):
else who goes back to their alma mater, albeit a
blue blood where those expectations are there every single year
for them. So I'm happy for me you got the extension.
I think he deserves it. He's done a tremendous shob
filling in for coach k Not many people could do
something like that. But how do you guys feel about
the NCAA tournament expanding the seventy six teams?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And I see that, right, it's just what we need.
Let's throw some more teams in there. Why not? They
have to have more because we can't figure it out
in sixty eight teams. Let's add more. What is this
seventy six? Now? Why don't just make it an even
eighty and just go from there.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I mean, and I don't know if you care or not,
but I look at it.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
I go, all right, look at most professional sports leagues,
they don't quite have half the teams make it. It's
usually somewhere below that, like forty percent, forty four, whatever
it is. I mean, you think about the NFL, is
fourteen teams make it? Now out of thirty two, what's
the what's the NBA had? How many teams making the NBA?
(17:18):
I guess if you count the plan because that really
is part of the tournament. Even though it's they don't
technically make it part of the tournament.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I'm not sure what else do you call anything after
the regular season?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Twenty plan there you go.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
So there's there's a much greater percentage of teams at
least the pro level.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
This is about. And this is the funny thing. I
was like researching this.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I go how many Division one men's basketball teams are there?
And every single site was like more than three hundred
and fifty. How'm like, so there's not an exact number,
like they're like, it's like an ebbs and flows of
programs that are like Division one or not. Anyway, the
point is if you just seventy six, that's like football too. Yeah,
(18:01):
but it's a little more standile. There's like one hundred
and thirty four. Like I could give you an exact number,
you know, like last shock, I can give you an
exact number.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's just weird and you're like looking it up. It's
hard to get an exact number.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
But a little less than twenty two percent of the
teams when I was shot at making it, And so
I don't know if like you look at that and
you go, all right, like maybe college football should have more.
College football is like nine percent, there's like one hundred
and thirty four teams twelve make it something like that,
which I mean and by the way, I'm not even
sure if we could really.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Make it harder to figure out, it would be way
harder to figure out how to keep adding teams without
impacting the season because you only have so much time. Like, yeah,
I mean the ability to be able to play the
games quicker. You know the fact that you can play
a game today, then you can play a game after
(18:50):
one day's rest. Hell and basketball, you could play it.
You could play more than one game and one day, right.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Right, But but again you're looking back to the NFL model,
you have fourteen to thirty two. So like what you
do is you would do away with the conference championship games.
And so if you want to go to sixteen, or
even if you want to go to thirty two, you
do it with conference championship games. Those games are now
sold as part of the expanded playoff package.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And then you have the regular season.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
When they play nine conference games or ten conference games
if you get there. That's how they determine who the
conference champion is, and they'll do it based on they'll
be tie breaking scenarios and all that stuff, but like
that's ultimately how do you do it? I mean, that's
how we do divisions in the NFL, It's how we
do I mean, we eventually playoff for a conference championship.
So maybe maybe that format, that expanded format. You know,
(19:42):
they play through some sort of semi final then final
for their conference and those are like part of the
playoff but also qualifiers to ultimately.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Win the conference.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
You know, maybe you go that route, but that would
that'd be assuming that all things are equal.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Then that's the problem with college football is we don't
look at we don't look at the.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
ACC the Big twelve as equals to the Big ten
of the SEC. So it kind of stands in their
way of that that thought at least. But I don't know,
I don't have a problem with it. I mean, I
love that time of year. I think it's so much fun.
If people haven't been to Vegas during that time of year,
it's it's absolutely electric.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
So you know, I don't know that game's more fun.
I don't know if there is a solution to this.
But when I look at College of Basketball and I
go what could they do to improve it? I don't
think let's add more teams to the NCAA Tournament. I think,
why don't you make the regular season better? Like the
focus should be on how can we make the regular
season more entertaining and better, especially if it's in the
middle for a decent amount, if it's in the middle
(20:38):
of football season, and I just like, instead it'd say, well,
let's just add on to the NCAA tournament. Man just
sixty eight's fine, it's awesome, Like it's awesome about it is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But when has the regular season ever mattered for college basketball?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Man? Fact Like it used to be to where you
would get excited about big matchups in college basketball, like
Big mondays the East.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
That was when the Big East was the Big East
and stuff like that. It's not.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
The landscape of the game has changed so dramatically, man Like.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
It's it's it's not the same.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
You don't get to know the players the way that
you you used to. It's the bonds between the players
and the fans that the relationship.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
It's not. It's it's just not the same.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
The landscape doesn't allow for it in college basketball.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
It's it's just it's very different.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
It's it's very transactional, and it's always Basketball has always
been a very transactional type of sport, but it's even
more so nowadays. I mean, even knowing coaches is difficult.
I mean back in the day, you knew it was
a Tartanian, you knew it was a Fisher, or or
a Thompson, you know, a Nolan Richardson, you know, or Harrison,
(21:49):
Nolan Harrison. You know Richards Richardson, Richard richards Yeah, Harrison
was my teammate. That Nolan Harrison was my teammate. But yeah,
I mean you knew who these guys were, and you
knew who the players were, you know, and that's what
created such signature, you know, signature brands like Duke, you know,
(22:12):
and and coaches like Mike Krzyzewski. It's not really like
that anymore. It's not so you have a different you
have a different level of trying to market, brand and promote,
you know, the game of college basketball, especially the regular season,
because you don't know nobody, you know, there's no real
connection to it. You're not looking at it like, all right,
(22:35):
is this the team? I mean, there was a little
bit of it with Duke last year, like how good
could they be But you know, you were looking at
teams and like, can this team go undefeated? And you're
looking at the coach, you know the coach, You're looking
at the players, you know the players. It's like it's
just not like that too much anymore.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Speaking of which, I saw Rick Patino at the Yankees
game last night.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Looks great.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, just hanging out. Yeah, just just watched it. Yeah,
it looks great.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
How jeans?
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We have to own up. We have to recap last week.
It was a rough week.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Rough Week one five and one picked a lot of
the big boy games. Bama Georgia was conflicted. Went with
Georgia Bama got took care of business. LSU gett a
point and a half at Old Miss. Just kind of
needed to see it from Old Miss. Obviously, they proved
me wrong with that one too. Florida State at UVA.
(27:23):
What a win for Uva. They had to juice the
entire time that game. That was I don't want to
say shocking, but definitely surprising. Chandler Morris played his tail
off happy for the Cavaliers. Wahu wa to see them
perform that way, but it definitely didn't kill one of
those bets.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Washington versus Ohio State.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
I really thought first road Big Ten game for the
Buckeyes might be some troubles, but that defense is legit.
I mean, Don Williams Junior is a really good player.
Jonah Coleman's one of the best running backs in the
Big Ten. Denzel Boston, I mean, they've got players, now
tell them six points.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
And then USC Illinois, I'll be the first to tell you,
uh that secondary fair ill Ainoyan.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I think they were missing four or five starters. And
if there's one thing.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
That USC going into that game does extremely well store
on the football round.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
They still did it.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
But Illinois's offense stepped up a completely different team from
what we saw the week prior versus Indiana, So a
number of losses. Tough to go buy TCU Arizona State.
They pushed and then obviously the only winner. I took
the three and a half points in Oregon, who obviously
went out right. Well, yeah, I had to recap it.
But this week's games another week with a lot of
(28:40):
big lines here, LeVar, I know your sensitive about it.
There's nothing I can do, all right, they can't win
a white I don't. I don't know to tell you,
all right, Autohouse State, I know, trust me. I knew
this was going to come up. I knew it would
be a soft spot for you.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Yeah, nothing we can do about it, though, all right,
do your wins, all right?
Speaker 7 (28:59):
This week we've got Dabo what ten and sixteen on
the season, so below five hundred.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Not that last week kind of tarpoon things.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
But we're gonna get back on track this week, and
it starts off with a battle on the ACC Dabo
or Dabbo, depending on how some people call them.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Pointoi for some reason calls them Dabo.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
It's weird.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Clemson's taken on UNC and they're laying what thirteen and
a half? Last time I checked fourteen fourteen? Around fourteen
now there on DraftKings. At some point, Clemson's gotta figure
this out, right, I mean at some point, and I
would imagine there will probably more Clemson fans in Chapel
Hill than North Carolina. I mean, that's that's my bet
(29:40):
on this. But Clemson's the way more talented team, It's
a proven track record. This year has been rough, but
I think this could be a get back on track
game for them. I'm gonna lay the fourteen points and
Clemson on the road here. Next up one that should
make LeVar Arrton happy. Penn State traveling out to LA
to take on the Bruins. The Brugans have already fired
their head coach. They're struggling offensively. This is a get
(30:02):
right game for James Franklin. Historically he's had no issue
whatsoever covering these big spreads.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And the line is twenty four and a half. Lay them.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Penn State will pound UCLA, not be on to score,
and then Penn State's offense will run.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All over the UCLA defense. So love laying the big
number there.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
With the Ndney Lions Next up, a sneaky, really good battle,
and you wonder if Washington gets beat twice by Ohio
State or how they come out of that game. Washington's
going to head all the way across the country to
Maryland and they're getting.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Six and a half points.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
I thought the udub offense got a little bit exposed
last week Versusale State defense. Although there's just kind of
that good. But I've been hyping up Malak Washington all
year long, the true freshman quarterback. He could sling it
and they've got playmakers on the outside. So I like
Maryland at home. Tough game, big game, but a West
Coast team that you know, again, different time zones. I'll
(30:58):
take the six and a half in Maryland. Next up,
another great matchup. This Houston team has I would say
exceeded expectations probably for most of the Big Twelve, but
a big number here. They're hosting Texas Tech, who I
believe to be the best team in the Big Twelve.
But in eleven and a half points, that's the number.
It's a little bit too much for me. I think
(31:19):
this Houston team can score with others. Barren more than
the quarterback for Texas Tech. Remember he was knocked out
the last game they played versus Utah. Will Hammond came in,
played phenomenal more will be back for this one. So
go in and take the eleven and a half points
with Houston and our final matchup TCU at home taken
on Colorado.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's a big number. It's thirteen and a half points. Look,
I think this Colorado team has struggled.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
They've they've kind of had a rotating charo quarterback there
for them and on the road versus a team that
I think TCU is flying under the radar as one
of the best teams in the Big Twelve. So I'm
laying the thirteen and a half points. See who's lost
two of their last three. The struggling to put up points,
especially when they face powerful competition, only average about twenty
points of games. So joshuaver has been phenomenal this year
(32:05):
for TCU. I like the Horned Frogs. Lay the thirteen
and a half.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Here's what I'm talking about right there? You know what?
What a persevere Yeah, buddy, maybe this would be a
better week. Rough week, crazy week in college football. Get
them up off the stool ready for another round.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well, I mean again, weeks.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
Ago three and one really could have been four and
ol but said we got cut out cut when's whens.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's like if a tree falls, it's like it never existed.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
A tree falls in the forest. Is anybody here?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You know?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
By the way, uh Houston now getting twelve and a
half on twelve and a half.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
So I moved up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah, so, uh so there's that.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
But uh but we are in agreement that Penn State's
going to lay the hamber on UCLA.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Throttle them, come on, throttle them. And if they don't,
and if they don't, I'm taking out of Lvar.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
I'm letting you know that right now, LaVar like no
bs like I know it means so much to you know,
it's er all my money, I get all that.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But at some point your boys got to start playing
up through the capabilities.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
I hope.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
So that's all I can say. I mean, I don't play,
and I don't cope, So all I can do is
root and hope and and yeah, do you get nervous
feel good about this week?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Do you get nervous watching your Alma maters play?
Speaker 8 (33:30):
I don't get nervous. I just I want to see
them win, that's all. Yeah, I get I feel the feelings,
I feel the emotions of it.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
For certain absolutely I was.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean again, I'll pull back the curt a little bit.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
You know, it's starting a collective and being like more
intricately involved you you kind of have to separate the
emotional from you know, your your fandom for it, because
otherwise you can get kind of wrapped up into it.
But when you start to get to know some of
the players and that whole thing, it just it lends
you to to not get nervous but get excited, and
(34:06):
then you know when there's losses, your soul searching at times.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So I can only imagine what it's like for LeVar.
I don't have a son yet that's playing, so.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
That would if I had a kid who was on
the team, I could be I don't know, yeah, i'd
I'd be a mess.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I'm probably gonna be a mess.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
I think you'd be good. It's always you always think
it's going to be something that it's not. Like when
I got drafted, I thought i'd cry, like, oh my gosh,
I finally made it.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
They call my name. I was like all right, let's go,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Like it seems like every significant moment I thought I
would cry when I saw my daughter and my son
on the field for the first time.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
No, oh my god, you got no heart. Huh, you
do have a heart. I'm not numb at all, not
at all.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
What is going on?
Speaker 6 (34:56):
It just doesn't It just doesn't play out that way.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
It's like I feel more triumphant, like I feel like
strong in that moment, like dang, like look at my daughter,
or look at look at my boy coming out on
the field.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Like I got emotion on my son's T ball game,
at his te ball game, I got a try I
hit it. I just and my wife was like, are
you crying? Like are you are you crying? I was
like no, it's just I'm so happy for him. Like, well,
here's more happiness.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I kiss my ass.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
No frighting fall, that is true.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
I think sometimes sometimes emotions get me. Like I saw
one of my kids that I mentored since he was
in the sixth grade seventh grade and was with him
all the way through and he ended up going to
Penn State and and played at Penn State. Finished that marshal,
but he just became a fireman and and I saw
(35:55):
him for the first time, and I got, I welled up.
I got a little teary eyd I had. I had
a kid I mentored that ended up becoming a marine,
and and a lot of it was the time we
had spent and you know, just bonded, and he ended
up seeing himself being more than just a football player,
(36:15):
and it turned into him going into the military, and
he's living an amazing life now. And he just had twins,
which is pretty cool. But I cried at his wedding,
like I had, I had, I got welled up at
his wedding. I think I think it was significant seeing
my son and daughter on the field. But I think
I think what would make it more emotional is if
(36:37):
there was something I don't I don't know, like something
a little bit more to it, like if they're like
in the National Championship game.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Or I don't know, you know how cool it's going
to be if he gets some burn time and it's
the first time and it's at the Rose Bowl this weekend.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
That would be pretty cool, man, awesome, that would be me.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
You were just there too, You're just there this week, Yeah, yesterday,
think about think about like that, like omen you know.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
I mean, and he wasn't supposed to travel, you know,
so there's there's always an effect of it. Yeah, And
I'll make sure I have my my Louisiana Hot Sauce
in my back pocket too.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You know.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
It's the perfect balance of Pepper's, you know, vinegar and salt.
And if I am able to have some wings, nachos
or burgers while I'm there at the game, well, I'll
make sure I hit a couple of tailgates up, get
some food and use that bold, handcrafted flavor of the
original Louisiana Hot Sauce. That's Louisiana Hot guys by you something.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
That I was just gonna say that, man, just gonna
I was thinking the same thing, man. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Coming up next here we are going to have a
discussion about a real hot topic in the world of sports.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
But should it be right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 4 (38:05):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
off top of next hour a little over ten minutes
from now. Somebody in the NFL not thrilled, not thrilled
they're taking accountability, but apparently the team is pissed. We'll
get into that for you again coming up here a
little over ten minutes from now. You guys have some
(38:28):
thoughts on the WNBA commissioner kind of ripping into Caitlin
Clark and some of their players. And now you've got
players from the WNBA that have now taken shots at
the commissioner saying, you know, we've got really poor leadership,
et cetera, et cetera. I'll be honest with you, I
think a lot of this conversation about the WNBA is manufactured.
(38:53):
It feels like this is ESPN and others are really
trying to force the WNBA down. Everybody's throat have of
that golf clap, and I just I have a hard
time getting into some of the drama in the WNBA
anymore tried to give it a chance. It just feels
like somebody's always complaining about something and they're all there's
(39:14):
always infighting in the league, and I don't understand it.
Speaker 8 (39:18):
Yeah, I don't understand these topics today. Man, y'all got
this cause I don't, you know, I don't care like that.
The WNBA is like what, it's the playoffs right now?
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I don't even know.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
They're still going on. It's the playoffs, Yeah, it is
the playoffs. I think the finals are about to start.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
All right, the Mercury play the Aces, Like that's what
we have going on right now? Okay, yeah, Like, if
anybody on this show can name me two players off
of each team, two like right now, no looking up,
no cheating. If you can name me two players off
of the Murky Theory and the Aces right now, I
(40:02):
give you straight props, straight props, three, two one exactly.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Nobody knows because nobody cares.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
And listen, I know that there are some avid sports
fans out there or that are super dedicated to the
w NBA the sport in general.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I'm a supporter of women's sports. I'm not. I'm not
trying to diminish women's sports.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
I'm really not. I'm just saying I'm just not. Really,
I don't know I'm not me personally. I'm just not
into it, that's all. I love volleyball, love volleyball.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I just think everything about the everything about that league
is drama and not the good kind. And I just
I have a really hard time giving it any attention
or giving it.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Anythun till you watched all the games.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
No, I don't really not a fan. I'm sorry you're
betting on some of them now. I mean, let'sten, I'll
bet on it, but I'll bet on anything. I bet
on a horse to run backwards during COVID so but
think I actually won that one? Yeah, big time.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I just quickly asked this though, what league and what league?
Do the players like the commissioner?
Speaker 5 (41:15):
None?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
So, like, why is this a surprise?
Speaker 7 (41:19):
Like we're acting like there's there're all there's disgruntlement between
the commissioner and the players.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 7 (41:28):
Out the commissioner works for the owners, Like there's always
that dividing line.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
They don't care about the players. It's all bs like.
I mean, that's the reality of it.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
I just think everything that was okay with me, Every
storyline that comes out of there is drama. Like it's
just like, why can't they just make it hot? But
can't they make it spicy?
Speaker 6 (41:55):
You know, we gotta do it again.
Speaker 8 (41:57):
We got to do spicy on to make sure you
do Louisiana hot, all right, spicy hot, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
What it is.
Speaker 8 (42:04):
Let's taste good on your food, your your wings, your nachos,
all that stuff.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Just make sure you use some Louisiana hot alright, and
buy you some
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